Chloe the Moron

[minerva73]

This was inspired by Darth Pipes thread. :D

In "Wrath", Chloe found out that Lana built the Isis Foundation to spy on Lex. If Chloe's so worried about Lex, then why can't she use Isis for what it was built for and spy on Lex to stop him? She was so bent on nagging Clark about why he's not doing anything when she was capable of doing something too. Even if she did unplug Lana's connection to Lex, she has the ability to plug it back in and spy on Lex.

I dunno, but I felt that she could have done more than complain about how much Clark wants Lana.

[ginnyfan]

Chloe just suggested that Clark use his concern for Lana to do something constructive. He could have been reading Swann's journal all night or learning to fly all night rather than holding Lana's hand all night as she inwardly writhes in agony.

[AlwaysRight]

I disagree, if anything Chloe has come accross as the most intelligent person in the Universe the past season

[Servayne]

I think Chloe has come off as the most intelligent and heroic character this season. She goes above and beyond time and time again. The only thing I found wrong with her is that she doesn't whap Clark upside the head about his priorities.

[AndiGirl]

I disagree, if anything Chloe has come accross as the most intelligent person in the Universe the past season

At points a little to intelligent. Tonight she said something about space and time continums...and I thought "Yea....ok, just pulled that one out of your memory?" :lol: But I'm glad she seems overly intelligent and not lacking in that department.....like other people/aliens.

[ginnyfan]

I disagree, if anything Chloe has come accross as the most intelligent person in the Universe the past season

LOL! It was really strange in this episode how Chloe lets us know that what Clark wants her to do is way beyond her hacking capability. Then she turns on a dime and just decides to upgrade her knowledge. LOL! She can just decide to me more proficient.

[dru-zod2501]

^^ cause that's what real heroes do they upgrade and adapt consciously. Clark just waits for his upgrades to develop whenever...:(

[ginnyfan]

"This hacking is way beyond my capability."

2 seconds pass.

"But I guess I've got to grow up sometime."

???

Either it's beyond your knowledge or not. That's what I'm saying.

[CK&CK]

I disagree, if anything Chloe has come accross as the most intelligent person in the Universe the past season

Who is still a MORON......on occasion.

[LexLuv180]

At points a little to intelligent. Tonight she said something about space and time continums...and I thought "Yea....ok, just pulled that one out of your memory?" :lol: But I'm glad she seems overly intelligent and not lacking in that department.....like other people/aliens.

I agree, my mother and I were rolling our eyes a bit. They're going overboard with her know-all on everything.

[maryjanewatson]

At points a little to intelligent. Tonight she said something about space and time continums...and I thought "Yea....ok, just pulled that one out of your memory?" :lol: But I'm glad she seems overly intelligent and not lacking in that department.....like other people/aliens.
I'm pretty sure she pulled it out of somewhere else. :rolleyes:

how many times this season (let alone this episode) have you said "who is writing this stuff?!" I know I've said it more times than I care to count.

[AlwaysRight]

Who is still a MORON......on occasion.

lol i guess the key thing 1 strike against her, but her seeming to know everything on every subject is starting to get old

[Servayne]

lol i guess the key thing 1 strike against her, but her seeming to know everything on every subject is starting to get old

I'm a huge fan of the character Chloe, but I have to agree - there is now way she should know everything!

[EricaIsGr8t]

It never made sense to me really, Chloe should not be smarter than a freakin Kryptonian and yet the show has proved time and time again that she is. Isn't their race supposed to be advanced, sometimes it seems like Clark is as dumb as a door knob.

[you_smell_terrific]

I've asked the question

'Who's writing this??'

every episode this season and some of last LOL!! Just ask my mom xD

[DGirlLois4Clark]

It appears Chloe truely is Miss Know-It-All. Ridiculous. She hasnt even graduated from Metropolis University (or has she?)

I just dnt get smallville sometimes. When is Clark gonna use his brain. Chloe find this, Chloe find that. last time i checked he's the super human. Geez.

Writers please let Clark use his brain. Please.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

Clark could be smart if he wasn't always thinking about Lana. Chloe's exceptionally intelligant, but she doesn't know everything. Well, she knows everything about hacking and computer techno stuff. :)

[minerva73]

I disagree, if anything Chloe has come accross as the most intelligent person in the Universe the past season

Even if she has come across as the most intelligent person, she still lacks common sense sometimes IMO. It's true that Clark should have paid more attention to the threat of Lex and the keys, but she didn't make it seem like it was that important anyways. Clark was distraught and she just said that Clark needs to stop Lex.

If Chloe really wanted to make Clark feel that he should stop Lex, then she should have used Isis for what it was meant for. To spy on Lex. Maybe if she showed Clark some clips of how depraved Lex was, then it would show Clark that he shouldn't spend all his time with Lana, but he should also focus at the situation at hand. Instead she just complained about how dangerous he was and then she went on her own way.

[RepairmanBob]

I like Chloe, but her brain upgrade was back to season five levels of goofiness this week. AM does good exposition, but the Science Girl stuff was as OCC as Clark's BDA behavior after Descent.
If Chloe really wanted to make Clark feel that he should stop Lex, then she should have used Isis for what it was meant for. To spy on Lex. Maybe if she showed Clark some clips of how depraved Lex was, then it would show Clark that he shouldn't spend all his time with Lana, but he should also focus at the situation at hand. Instead she just complained about how dangerous he was and then she went on her own way.<!-- / message -->I do not agree at all.
Clark swore last week to stop Lex. Clark knows Lex has the keys. Is he stupid that he needs to be reminded on a regular basis that Lex is a threat?

When Chloe did nag at Clark to be useful, he snapped back with a "Lana Lana Lana why haven't you found Brainiac!" rant.

Chloe "went on her way" to try to find Brainiac. Who is controlling Lana, the only person Clark cares about. Sure, Lex is a threat, but Clark's won;t do anything until Brainiac is found and his beloved Lana is taken care of.

Now, I would say Chloe is a moron for taking back Jimmy "I'll be dating Kara as soon as she comes back next season" Olsen. But if anything, she was too smart this week. YMMV.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i do not see how chloe is being a moron. chloe supports clark and it gets in trouble with her job and her sometimes boyfriend jimmy.
I don't see how chloe could be called a moron.

[Kevin24]

Clark could learn all that Chloe knows in a minute by just reading books on computers and searching the internet about hacks and what not.

If he did that then Chloe wouldn't be a sidekick anymore :(

How boring would it be to see Clark by himself at a computer looking for info and just making faces and talking to himself like another superhero (spiderman) lol

[EricaIsGr8t]

Clark could be smart if he wasn't always thinking about Lana. Chloe's exceptionally intelligant, but she doesn't know everything. Well, she knows everything about hacking and computer techno stuff. :)

and apparently physics and astronomy as well:\

[miks]

I didn't see the episode because I heard it was really not that good, and because of the chimmy, but I agree on some parts. Chloe is exceptionally smart, it's not hard to crack open a book and read up about physics and astronomy, you guys act like this whole physics stuff doesn't exist, and only super powered aliens can find it! I do agree though that at times I'm kinda like okay then she just found that out where? At least explain how she did it and when she came across this knowledge. Other than that, I think Chloe's character and her brain has grown season through season, it's better than all of the sudden genius lana!

[Twitch]

I have to admit that the super genius-level intelligence gets a little ridiculous at times, and it makes Clark look really dumb.

[miks]

Clark makes Clark look really dumb! I like Clark, don't get me wrong, but this whole Lana is everything to me, I don't care if the world goes down at the hands of Lex Luthor crap is getting on my nerves.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

I didn't see the episode because I heard it was really not that good, and because of the chimmy, but I agree on some parts. Chloe is exceptionally smart, it's not hard to crack open a book and read up about physics and astronomy, you guys act like this whole physics stuff doesn't exist, and only super powered aliens can find it! I do agree though that at times I'm kinda like okay then she just found that out where? At least explain how she did it and when she came across this knowledge. Other than that, I think Chloe's character and her brain has grown season through season, it's better than all of the sudden genius lana!

so true:cool:

[Twitch]

Clark makes Clark look really dumb! I like Clark, don't get me wrong, but this whole Lana is everything to me, I don't care if the world goes down at the hands of Lex Luthor crap is getting on my nerves.
Trust me it's getting on my nerves too, but I think they're going over the top with Chloe having to help him with everything, he's too dependent on her, they need to tone it back a little if they want us to take him seriously.

[miks]

I agree with that soo much! But what I don't agree with is a lot of people saying Chloe needs to die for Clark to do anything on his own. I think the AU with Chloe dying proves that if she did, he'd be screwed. I honestly think Chloe should try and push him more to do things on his own. They can still be partners and help each other out but I really do want him to do a little bit more on his own, because season after season he's getting worse. I think it was one episode where Chloe was like no Clark I have things to do, do it yourself. But it didn't stick, or maybe that was that cure episode. I don't remember.

[mcgairman]

Chloe's "intelligence" is not, IMO, OOC. here's why:


1) She's always been shown as intelligent and curious about things.
2) She's was a scholarship student to Met U.
3) That inmplies high grades.
4) If you are going to college these days and like computers and computer subjects, then you take the 'ACADEMIC' courses which includes science and math (ie., chemistry, physics, and math through at least pre-calculus).
5) Chloe, if she's smart, does not limit herself in study because a good Journalist would have to a LOT anbout a lot of things.
6) CHloe also has long had a keen insterest in the "out there" type of subjects, which naturally leads to academic studies in the realm of the various hard scinece and math subjects.
7) Therefore, this kind of knowledge is not out of the realm of possibility for an intelligent young woman.

You guys are too harsh on Chloe. I think she's one of the best characters in the show. Now Clark, on the other hand, is truly the BDA, most of the time.

:cool:

[Kalista]

Chloe's "intelligence" is not, IMO, OOC. here's why:


1) She's always been shown as intelligent and curious about things.
2) She's was a scholarship student to Met U.
3) That inmplies high grades.
4) If you are going to college these days and like computers and computer subjects, then you take the 'ACADEMIC' courses which includes science and math (ie., chemistry, physics, and math through at least pre-calculus).
5) Chloe, if she's smart, does not limit herself in study because a good Journalist would have to a LOT anbout a lot of things.
6) CHloe also has long had a keen insterest in the "out there" type of subjects, which naturally leads to academic studies in the realm of the various hard scinece and math subjects.
7) Therefore, this kind of knowledge is not out of the realm of possibility for an intelligent young woman.

You guys are too harsh on Chloe. I think she's one of the best characters in the show.
:cool:

ITA :D

[chlo-el]

"This hacking is way beyond my capability."

2 seconds pass.

"But I guess I've got to grow up sometime."

???

Either it's beyond your knowledge or not. That's what I'm saying.

It's beyond her current knoweldge. Chloe seems like the type of person who is always learning and will try to leanr what seems beyond her reach type of things.

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Chloe's "intelligence" is not, IMO, OOC. here's why:


1) She's always been shown as intelligent and curious about things.
2) She's was a scholarship student to Met U.
3) That inmplies high grades.
4) If you are going to college these days and like computers and computer subjects, then you take the 'ACADEMIC' courses which includes science and math (ie., chemistry, physics, and math through at least pre-calculus).
5) Chloe, if she's smart, does not limit herself in study because a good Journalist would have to a LOT anbout a lot of things.
6) CHloe also has long had a keen insterest in the "out there" type of subjects, which naturally leads to academic studies in the realm of the various hard scinece and math subjects.
7) Therefore, this kind of knowledge is not out of the realm of possibility for an intelligent young woman.

You guys are too harsh on Chloe. I think she's one of the best characters in the show. Now Clark, on the other hand, is truly the BDA, most of the time.

:cool:

Plus when you're in collge you need to have a basic course load that is not with in your major that includes math and science. Besides, her best friends an alien it's not that far of stretch that she would want to learn more about science and astronomy. Chloe has always been really curious and I think that includes that she has been curious about science as well. She told Lois that she reads the scintific journal.

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Trust me it's getting on my nerves too, but I think they're going over the top with Chloe having to help him with everything, he's too dependent on her, they need to tone it back a little if they want us to take him seriously.

Yes, but she made a point to show him there are some things she just couldn't do. Sure she learned how to hack higher level things but she drawed the line when Clark wanted Chloe to read Kryptonian.

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I agree with that soo much! But what I don't agree with is a lot of people saying Chloe needs to die for Clark to do anything on his own. I think the AU with Chloe dying proves that if she did, he'd be screwed. I honestly think Chloe should try and push him more to do things on his own. They can still be partners and help each other out but I really do want him to do a little bit more on his own, because season after season he's getting worse. I think it was one episode where Chloe was like no Clark I have things to do, do it yourself. But it didn't stick, or maybe that was that cure episode. I don't remember.

I think Chloe has. In this ep Clark would have done nothing but hold Lana's hand if Chloe didn't tell him to read Dr. Swann's journal.

[Ilovebeinglost]

She's too busy helping Clark look for Brainiac to have any time to keep watching Lex to the point that she could have been arrested and sent to jail for doing so. How does this make her a moron?

[RepairmanBob]

She's too busy helping Clark look for Brainiac to have any time to keep watching Lex to the point that she could have been arrested and sent to jail for doing so. How does this make her a moron?
I thought they had a clear divison of labor.

Chloe: Look for Brainiac.
Clark: Follow Lex, get the keys.

Sadly, Clark got distracted by Lana's shiny, shiny coma hair and did not do his job. What a BDA.

[Darth Pipes]

This was inspired by Darth Pipes thread. :D

In "Wrath", Chloe found out that Lana built the Isis Foundation to spy on Lex. If Chloe's so worried about Lex, then why can't she use Isis for what it was built for and spy on Lex to stop him? She was so bent on nagging Clark about why he's not doing anything when she was capable of doing something too. Even if she did unplug Lana's connection to Lex, she has the ability to plug it back in and spy on Lex.

I dunno, but I felt that she could have done more than complain about how much Clark wants Lana.

Didn't Lex find out that Chloe was spying on him? If so, that would give him the advantage in countering her.

[Jade4813]

I don't mind Chloe being smart. I'm glad that she's smart. But I also think that they push it sometimes, like there's pretty much nothing she doesn't know (or can't find out in 2.5 seconds).

I'm not saying that she shouldn't be smart, but I do wish every once and a while, there should be a scene where Chloe's like, "Well, I found this information, but I've looked over it a thousand times and I really don't understand it, so I'm gonna have to call someone in on this."

Again, I don't mind that she's incredibly intelligent. But I don't care who you are; I'm willing to bet there's at least a few topics that Stephen Hawkings would look at and think, "Huh?" There are a number of brilliant people in the world, but they're not brilliant at EVERY topic.

That's where it draws the line of believability for me. I could buy her being brilliant at a handful of topics that come up - everyone had things in school that came naturally to them, so her saying that "electricity denatures enzymes" would have been fine (though bio 101 my rear). So she was really good at science in school.

But is there a single subject or topic that she's ever once gone, "You know, Clark...I'm good at physics, biology, astronomy, astrophysics, cryptography, computer science... but, seriously, math just isn't my thing."

I don't think that it would make her a weaker character; I think it would make her a more believable character. Like I said, nobody is good at every subject out there on the planet. Plus, it's not like it would be so difficult to pull off. You could see that she's still developing that "network" and they could even have a little fun with those few things that Chloe just isn't very good at.

I like my characters with flaws. All kinds of flaws. I don't want Chloe to be stupid, but I would like one or two areas that Chloe's just a bit at a loss. I'd love to see her deal with it, acknowledging that she doesn't know the area but finding a way to help out anyway.

Any, that's JMHO.

[AgentChaos]

"This hacking is way beyond my capability."

2 seconds pass.

"But I guess I've got to grow up sometime."

???

Either it's beyond your knowledge or not. That's what I'm saying.

It was beyond her knowledge. Ultimately she wasn't able to hack in remotely.

[Fat Elvis 007]

If Chloe really wanted to make Clark feel that he should stop Lex, then she should have used Isis for what it was meant for. To spy on Lex. Maybe if she showed Clark some clips of how depraved Lex was, then it would show Clark that he shouldn't spend all his time with Lana, but he should also focus at the situation at hand. Instead she just complained about how dangerous he was and then she went on her own way.

The thing you're missing is, the show clearly portrayed Lana's spying on Lex as a bad thing. Actually, this has been one of the few things the show has been pretty consistent about: that spying on someone's every move is wrong and obsessive. That's why Chloe cut the feed, and that's why nobody is using it to their advantage anymore. It isn't very practical, but it is a statement the show has clearly made.

[Tacitus]

Didn't Lex find out that Chloe was spying on him? If so, that would give him the advantage in countering her.

Thank God someone pointed the obvious. Chloe couldn't have spied on Lex because he cut off Lana's connection to the surveillance system right after Wrath I believe.