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Darth Pipes
04-24-2008, 07:22 PM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

jimmyolsenblues
04-24-2008, 07:25 PM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

i sadly agree with everything you wrote, hence the nickname big dumb alien (BDA).

minerva73
04-24-2008, 07:27 PM
I agree. But who can blame him? Brainiac's just as much of a threat as Lex is, so since Lana's under Brainiac's control, then he could think that he can get some message from Brainiac?

SuperJedi
04-24-2008, 07:27 PM
Blame the Writers NOT Clark!!!


The Smallville writers really NEED TO GET A GRIP!!!

We are tired of Clark this way!!!

WickedJenn
04-24-2008, 07:27 PM
I definitely rolled my eyes at the angsty Lana plea, it just couldn't be helped.

Superman of Krypton
04-24-2008, 07:28 PM
I'm cheering the villian (Lex) on this show.... not only because Rosenbaum is such a great actor..

but because its impossible to cheer for the hero, Clark, he's such an idiot.

Minela
04-24-2008, 07:28 PM
Clark deserves to be under Lex' control. Seriously at this point I wish Lex would kick his ass and put him in a Kryptonite cage. What kind of a Superman puts the entire world in danger because he is holding Lana's hand all night long? Please Brainiac, put him out of his misery already.

Thank God I view this entire episode as and AU and won't take it against the "real" Clark. Sheesh!

LexLuv180
04-24-2008, 07:28 PM
Geez I know, I guess again Clark is not prioritizing. He doesn't seem to do that when it comes to Brainiac.

lovingtom
04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
it's always clark with lana, lana, lana what about lois? DUH she is important too..

Cogito17
04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
I'm normally not one to complain, but I can't help but feel a little bit letdown with this as a follow up to 'Descent'. I understand its a bit of a set up/filler episode, but one thing that bothered me was the way Clark downplayed Lex at the beginning of this episode.

The last thing he said in 'Descent' was (in response to Lex hurting anyone else), "He won't get the chance, I won't let him". Then the very first thing he says in this episode is something along the lines of "Lex isn't important". I understand when things people say don't necessarily line up perfectly with other things said from several seasons ago, but to have Clark completely contradict himself with basically 2 scenes in between (the final scene in Descent, first scene in this episode) is pretty weak.

Also, they seemed to play up the rivalry and really set the stage for enmity between Clark and Lex, and then he completely ignores Lex as a threat in the next episode... just seems like a big letdown.

There are many ways they could have portrayed it. For example, Clark wants to deal with Brainiac first because he is threatening other people, Lex's trouble is more aiming at Clark, in which case Clark could be seen as being selfless, but instead they had a complete contradiction which I didn't like.

Tebow15
04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Clark acted as a "human" would. I take it as that because in our everday lives do we always make the best decisions? I think not!

AlwaysRight
04-24-2008, 07:31 PM
not defending the writers on this one but i think they made him do that to set up next episode(ie if he didn't go in search for Lana, he would got signal from kara).

That being said they shouldn't have had Chloe call him out for being such an idiot(because that's how the viewer will percieve him) as well as him saying he was by Lana's side for 14 hours.

SuperJedi
04-24-2008, 07:32 PM
Is there any way I can contact the writers of this show?

They need to hear me!

LexLuv180
04-24-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, but this decision is beyond idiotic. He can't do anything for Lana by sitting with her. I know he thinks the Brainiac thing is important - it certainly is! - but how long would it take him with super speed and Xray vision to find the keys and just snag them away? Not long at all.

SuperJedi
04-24-2008, 07:33 PM
not defendinfg the writers on this one but i think they made him do that to set up next episode(ie if he didn't go in search for Lana, he would got signal from kara).

That being said they shouldn't have had Chloe call him out for being such an idiot(because that's how the viewer will percieve him) as well as him saying he was by Lana's side for 14 hours.

The writers on this show really sucks!

They just create some plot they want to, even it doesn't make ANY Good sense at all!

NOT good writing/storytelling at all.... it's Pathetic!

Superman of Krypton
04-24-2008, 07:34 PM
The last thing he said in 'Descent' was (in response to Lex hurting anyone else), "He won't get the chance, I won't let him". Then the very first thing he says in this episode is something along the lines of "Lex isn't important".

Everything Clark says is BS.

He's usually 95% talk, 5% action.

AlwaysRight
04-24-2008, 07:34 PM
The writers on this show really sucks!

They just create some plot they want to, even it doesn't make ANY Good sense at all!

yeah they could have wrote a plot with Clark doing what he did without making him seem like such a moron just by changing a few points, but i guess it was more important to show how much he loves Lana

SuperJedi
04-24-2008, 07:36 PM
People, we need to WRITE these writers tell them they NOT writing good! Go back to strike and think up of great plots before getting back!!!

Xziled_Zoner
04-24-2008, 07:41 PM
Has anybody else found themselves saying enough is enough already this season with regards to Clark. Come on writers our hero has been anything but lately, and every single time we get a hint at that happening they rip it away again and make him look so average. I am all for making Clark go through all these things to help shape his future role but man, IMO enough is enough!!!!

Superman of Krypton
04-24-2008, 07:49 PM
Has anybody else found themselves saying enough is enough already this season with regards to Clark. Come on writers our hero has been anything but lately, and every single time we get a hint at that happening they rip it away again and make him look so average. I am all for making Clark go through all these things to help shape his future role but man, IMO enough is enough!!!!

Technically, every SV character is who they are supposed to be in the Superman mythology now...besides Clark

Lex is the MB from the comics, Lois and Jimmy are now a team at the Daily Planet... but Clark is still crying over Lana and embarassing himself.

It's usually one step forward, two steps back.. with Clark.

BWOracle
04-24-2008, 07:59 PM
What kind of a Superman puts the entire world in danger because he is holding Lana's hand all night long? !

Answer: Chris Reeve's Superman in Superman II (except substitute the word Lois for Lana).

TECHWON
04-24-2008, 08:00 PM
I agree. But who can blame him? Brainiac's just as much of a threat as Lex is, so since Lana's under Brainiac's control, then he could think that he can get some message from Brainiac?

I blame the stupid idiotic writers for this one

ItsAllAboutChloe
04-24-2008, 08:09 PM
It does seem that Clark is having Chloe do the superhero job. He hangs with Lana while she goes after Brainiac and Kara. What is up with that? I understand that he is going through an emotional time and all, but Chloe seems to be putting her emotions (with regards to Jimmy) on the back burner for Clark so why can't Clark put his emotions on the back-burner too. And really, how productive is sitting with Lana all night. He knows that isn't going to help solve anything.

RepairmanBob
04-24-2008, 08:14 PM
This was just horrible writing, and really out of character for Clark, IMO. I get that TW was busy directing Apocalypse, but there as no reaosn to make Clark look this bad. The writers dropped the ball big time.

Jo-jo
04-24-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm normally not one to complain, but I can't help but feel a little bit letdown with this as a follow up to 'Descent'. I understand its a bit of a set up/filler episode, but one thing that bothered me was the way Clark downplayed Lex at the beginning of this episode.

The last thing he said in 'Descent' was (in response to Lex hurting anyone else), "He won't get the chance, I won't let him". Then the very first thing he says in this episode is something along the lines of "Lex isn't important". I understand when things people say don't necessarily line up perfectly with other things said from several seasons ago, but to have Clark completely contradict himself with basically 2 scenes in between (the final scene in Descent, first scene in this episode) is pretty weak.

Also, they seemed to play up the rivalry and really set the stage for enmity between Clark and Lex, and then he completely ignores Lex as a threat in the next episode... just seems like a big letdown.

There are many ways they could have portrayed it. For example, Clark wants to deal with Brainiac first because he is threatening other people, Lex's trouble is more aiming at Clark, in which case Clark could be seen as being selfless, but instead they had a complete contradiction which I didn't like.


The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did.

kal-el_Girl
04-24-2008, 08:21 PM
how can clark worry about lana "zombie" lang in times like this and let chloe do the whole dirty work, where the heck was clark again in this eppy????????????

Cogito17
04-24-2008, 08:23 PM
The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did.

I would have been ok with that explanation if Clark hadn't said point blank as his last words in the previous episode that he wasn't gonna let Lex hurt anyone. I would have been ok if he had just said that he needs to take care of Brainiac first to protect others, but he completely contradicted himself by saying he doesn't care about Lex.

msleggie
04-24-2008, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Pipes
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.



So true, this was the time Clark needed to focus on Lex and how he was going to stop Lionel's warnings. For crying out loud the man died b/c of it.

RepairmanBob
04-24-2008, 08:30 PM
The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did.<!-- / message -->You mean sit on his ass and bother Chloe instead of doing something productive? Like, oh I don't know, call Ollie and ask for some help? Go look for Brainiac? Think about asking Jor-El for help on his own? Yes, I know plenty of people who would do more than sit at Lana's bedside and mope.

Starting with Clark from seasons 1-5.
I would have been ok with that explanation if Clark hadn't said point blank as his last words in the previous episode that he wasn't gonna let Lex hurt anyone. I would have been ok if he had just said that he needs to take care of Brainiac first to protect others, but he completely contradicted himself by saying he doesn't care about Lex.<!-- / message -->Exactly! Going after Brainiac first because ot would help Lana (and alos, as a sife effect, save the world) would have been great. Too bad we just got "Lana Lana Lana!"

Jo-jo
04-24-2008, 08:33 PM
I would have been ok with that explanation if Clark hadn't said point blank as his last words in the previous episode that he wasn't gonna let Lex hurt anyone. I would have been ok if he had just said that he needs to take care of Brainiac first to protect others, but he completely contradicted himself by saying he doesn't care about Lex.


Doesn't matter ....a bleeding heart will always have more strength that what seems logical.He may be kryptonian but he has been raised as a human.

theotherJane
04-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Is this while AlMiles left Smallville?

...2 steps back.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I wouldn't call him a moron. He just didn't have the right priorities but Chloe was there to shake him out of it. He was more focused on Brainiac and I'm guessing Clark isn't that worried about Lex because he isn't that big a threat to him. He figures when I feel like it I'll superspeed and take what he has .

curiosity
04-24-2008, 08:40 PM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

No, more like who came up with the idea to have Clark's character not care what Lex is doing, or aquiring because he's spending the night with comatose Lana.

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I wouldn't call him a moron. He just didn't have the right priorities but Chloe was there to shake him out of it. He was more focused on Brainiac and I'm guessing Clark isn't that worried about Lex because he isn't that big a threat to him. He figures when I feel like it I'll superspeed and take what he has .

All he had to do was superspeed to the bank in Zurich, break in and take the Veritas box, after xraying them to find it. Or, he could have gone to Lex's mansion and found the key. He knows it's the key Lex took from Chloe.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 08:47 PM
No, more like who came up with the idea to have Clark's character not care what Lex is doing, or aquiring because he's spending the night with comatose Lana.

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All he had to do was superspeed to the bank in Zurich, break in and take the Veritas box, after xraying them to find it. Or, he could have gone to Lex's mansion and found the key. He knows it's the key Lex took from Chloe.

Yup that's all he had to do. How boring would the show be if he took the keys before Lex gets them? I rather see where the story is going and see what happens.

Did you all really expect Clark to take the keys from Lex or get the box before him?

RepairmanBob
04-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Did you all really expect Clark to take the keys from Lex or get the box before him?<!-- / message -->I would have liked for him to at least mention trying, instead of babbling "Lana Lana Lana" over and over agaain.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 09:00 PM
^ lol that's true

curiosity
04-24-2008, 09:10 PM
Yup that's all he had to do. How boring would the show be if he took the keys before Lex gets them? I rather see where the story is going and see what happens.

Did you all really expect Clark to take the keys from Lex or get the box before him?
You're really overthinking my comment, it's only in response to your superspeeding comment about taking things from Lex. There is nothing in my post to suggest I really thought anything was going to happen.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 09:13 PM
Clark is just.....UGH! :(
I dont even look at him like the potential superman anymore. He is a jerk.....and really, only cares about himself...and apparently Lana. He let Lex take the keys and open the box....he had the nerve to ask chloe "why havent WE found Brainiac yet?" Like sitting with Lana holding her hand had any real signficant impact on finding him.

I am just frustrated beyong belief at this point. Why do the writers make Clark seem like a mopy...incompitent....yes...Moron!

I liked the other thread....I think we should make Jimmy superman. He was hot tonight! Had all the qualities of a butt kicking crime fighter. He finally stepped up...and manned up. I was very impressed. I'm just sad that Chloe cant see that. James bond always gets the girl...and yes, Jimmy did get her....but we all know where her heart is. Even Jimmy!

The point of that rant was...Clark is just a BDA, and he really proved that tonight. I love Chloe...and I dont think Clark deserves her at all. Jimmy does...but Chloe cant see that. All these ridiculous triangles....I tell ya! ;)

warriorrenegade
04-24-2008, 09:19 PM
It's the writers. They need to stretch this thing out over next season. So expect more BDA** Clark.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 09:26 PM
He had a good scene with Jimmy this episode. When Jimmy was going off about how he had a friend who was leading this double life and Clark was unsure who he was talking about and for a second there he figured it was him and said "I can explain"

I think he consoled him pretty well, he acted like a big brother to Jimmy which I thought was awesome.

Chloe_is_my_Hero
04-24-2008, 09:27 PM
I love SV and Clarkie, but I was mucho pissed-o that he was all "O Lana, My Lana." in the epi. Geeeeeeez, they need to give this a frigin rest. I bet Tom HATES saying that crap.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 09:34 PM
I love SV and Clarkie, but I was mucho pissed-o that he was all "O Lana, My Lana." in the epi. Geeeeeeez, they need to give this a frigin rest. I bet Tom HATES saying that crap.

Yeah that's true but at least it was only for a small portion of his first scene of the episode. Aside from that I was happy with Clark this episode, he is the one who suggested to search the skies and decided to visit Jor-el despite Chloe's protests.

I liked his scene with Jimmy too when Jimmy came for advice.:rolleyes:

Darth Pipes
04-24-2008, 09:37 PM
Finding Brianiac is important and I understand wanting to help Lana but if he lets Lex open that box, NONE OF IT WILL MATTER. Clark will be under the control of Lex and the world will be in danger. Lana will spend the rest of her day in a coma and the world will either be in the hands of Lex or Brainiac.

Then he has the nerve to complain to Chloe about not finding Brianiac while he was sitting on his ass doing nothing.

I don't know what Al Miles and company are thinking with their portrayel of Clark. He is a whiny, selfish, pathetic loser who has fought every effort to to embrace his destiny for seven years. This Clark is a gutless coward and has proven incapable of moving on with his life. Maybe it's a good thing these two are leaving after all.



Answer: Chris Reeve's Superman in Superman II (except substitute the word Lois for Lana).

Yes, Superman did that in the second movie. But there's two things to remember. One, Clark didn't know about Zod coming to Earth. Two, he learned from his mistake and did not repeat. Does Clark ever learn from his mistakes? Nope...he seems content on ignoring Jor-El's advice every chance he gets, capped off by his idiotic decision to bring a clone of his mother back to life. I would expect this behavior from Clark in Season 3 but not now.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Well...I would normally agree Kevin, that the Clark/Jimmy scene was very nice. But the fact that Jimmy had to remind Clark that he waisted a lot of gas, and had to stop for directions a couple of times to get there bugged me. Granted, my opinion isnt totally fair...because at that point I was already fed up with clark. ;)

His role seemed consistent throughout this episode "Must save Lana!" Which...I do understand, but there are more pressing issues at hand...like the total distruction of the world. I'm sure Lana would understand. I think at this point Clark just feels horrible guilt, and he wont allow himself to focus on anything else.

Ares
04-24-2008, 09:40 PM
I dont see how he can go back to that... C'mon last week you stood in the grave yard staring Lex down.. Now your a BDA! Go after Lex dont sit by Lana.. Whats the point? SHes a vegtibable.. Go on with your life you cant do anything by her bed side.

Skybound
04-24-2008, 09:41 PM
The writer is the same person that wrote Subterranean, which was a horrible episode so she should get fired!

If Lana just died in the 100th episode Clark would be Superman by now!!!!

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Finding Brianiac is important and I understand wanting to help Lana but if he lets Lex open that box, NONE OF IT WILL MATTER. Clark will be under the control of Lex and the world will be in danger. Lana will spend the rest of her day in a coma and the world will either be in the hands of Lex or Brainiac.

Then he has the nerve to complain to Chloe about not finding Brianiac while he was sitting on his ass doing nothing.

I don't know what Al Miles and company are thinking with their portrayel of Clark. He is a whiny, selfish, pathetic loser who has fought every effort to to embrace his destiny for seven years. This Clark is a gutless coward and has proven incapable of moving on with his life. Maybe it's a good thing these two are leaving after all.


Yes, Superman did that in the second movie. But there's two things to remember. One, Clark didn't know about Zod coming to Earth. Two, he learned from his mistake and did not repeat. Does Clark ever learn from his mistakes? Nope...he seems content on ignoring Jor-El's advice every chance he gets, capped off by his idiotic decision to bring a clone of his mother back to life. I would expect this behavior from Clark in Season 3 but not now.


I completely agree with you. Lana wont matter if Lex controls Clark. My guess is she would be one of the first people Lex has Clark take out....but for some reason clark cant seem to get that through his thick skull.

He would rather whine to Chloe about what needs to be done...then actually take any proative steps to get there. :rolleyes:

myankskent
04-24-2008, 09:45 PM
It does seem that Clark is having Chloe do the superhero job. He hangs with Lana while she goes after Brainiac and Kara. What is up with that? I understand that he is going through an emotional time and all, but Chloe seems to be putting her emotions (with regards to Jimmy) on the back burner for Clark so why can't Clark put his emotions on the back-burner too. And really, how productive is sitting with Lana all night. He knows that isn't going to help solve anything.

The problem is, TPTB make it as though Clark doesn't have a clue what to do. It's like if Chloe can't find Brainiac, he's totally and completely lost because he's useless and has no skills of his own.

Just look at past episodes. It's usually the same formula. Clark runs to Chloe for help, only now we are seeing all of the flaws in Clark's character. When Chloe can't come up with an answer for Clark, which doesn't happen often, he's left with nothing to do but complain to her.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 09:49 PM
The problem is, TPTB make it as though Clark doesn't have a clue what to do. It's like if Chloe can't find Brainiac, he's totally and completely lost because he's useless and has no skills of his own.

Pretty much. :rolleyes:. I mean...he could actually...I dont know, try to FLY?!? I mean...we all saw them fly away. Chances are brainiac isnt going to come land on earth to make it a bit easier for Clarkie. I mean...TRY...for goodness sakes. He claims to care soooo much about Lana...but he wont jump off the freaking barn (when he knows he cant get hurt) because he's afraid of heights?!? What the heck??? Instead...he whines. The writers are really doing a number on CK. I'm not liking it at all....:(

Brizzle
04-24-2008, 10:14 PM
I'm cheering the villian (Lex) on this show.... not only because Rosenbaum is such a great actor..

but because its impossible to cheer for the hero, Clark, he's such an idiot.

:rotfl:hahahahhaha the best post....

I told you guys Clark is a ****en retard. I can't stand it, it makes me sick, I wish Kara would knock him out again. Seriously this is the future Superman hahaha yeah right bro, I hope Lana does dump him soon.

And for u clois fans and chlark fans you want your girl with this guy. Jimmy is smarter than him. Lois, Lana, Lex, Chloe, Kara, are all smarter than him.

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Everything Clark says is BS.

He's usually 95% talk, 5% action.

Hahaha

MozartRequiem
04-24-2008, 10:17 PM
"The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did."

You know, I can relate to Clark in many ways, so I like to defend him. He really tries his best to help people.

BUT, while I am in love with the woman of my dreams right now, I would not spend the night by her side when there's nothing I could do for her, and the rest of the world needs me.

Surely, I'd be tempted, just IN CASE I could do anything to help (which is probably what Clark was thinking), but I mean, come on! He KNOWS how dangerous Lex is, and the power to control him would mean the power to destroy the world! After "Descent", where he saw what Lex was capable of, and swore to stop him, and we had that HUGE moment in the cemetary where the enmity, the battle of good vs. evil, was truly born...then we get him saying, "I don't care about Lex!"

THAT is what disappoints.

Don't get me wrong; as a whole, I enjoyed tonight's episode actually. The James Bond moments were fun, as were the Jimmy and Chloe moments, and it was a welcomed light-hearted episode in contrast to last week's, just to keep things fresh and give the show a balance of light and darkness, and I also loved the scenes with Lex. He was so subtly evil, and so cool and collected. He was officially the Lex of the comics now, which was great. The only thing that disappointed me was Clark.

Brizzle
04-24-2008, 10:18 PM
I dont see how he can go back to that... C'mon last week you stood in the grave yard staring Lex down.. Now your a BDA! Go after Lex dont sit by Lana.. Whats the point? SHes a vegtibable.. Go on with your life you cant do anything by her bed side.

If you haven't noticed Clark doesn't have the balls to go after Lex. It's pathetic when all three woman in the show are not afraid to take on Lex but Clark is still a weenie.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 10:23 PM
"The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did."

You know, I can relate to Clark in many ways, so I like to defend him. He really tries his best to help people.

BUT, while I am in love with the woman of my dreams right now, I would not spend the night by her side when there's nothing I could do for her, and the rest of the world needs me.

Surely, I'd be tempted, just IN CASE I could do anything to help (which is probably what Clark was thinking), but I mean, come on! He KNOWS how dangerous Lex is, and the power to control him would mean the power to destroy the world! After "Descent", where he saw what Lex was capable of, and swore to stop him, and we had that HUGE moment in the cemetary where the enmity, the battle of good vs. evil, was truly born...then we get him saying, "I don't care about Lex!"

THAT is what disappoints.

Don't get me wrong; as a whole, I enjoyed tonight's episode actually. The James Bond moments were fun, as were the Jimmy and Chloe moments, and it was a welcomed light-hearted episode in contrast to last week's, just to keep things fresh and give the show a balance of light and darkness, and I also loved the scenes with Lex. He was so subtly evil, and so cool and collected. He was officially the Lex of the comics now, which was great. The only thing that disappointed me was Clark.

I do understand that Clark is still young...and he has human emotions like everyone else. I can normally overlook that. But the fact that he is like someone else said...All talk, and no action...irritates me. He wants something to be done, but he's doing nothing to make that happen. I think you would agree...if you want something bad enough, dont you usually put in atleast a little effort to make it happen?

I actually thought this episode wasnt that light hearted. Maybe because my heart just breaks for Jimmy. He loves Chloe so much...and she is pretty much using him to get a release of some sort. She loves Clark...and poor Jimmy will keep beating his brains out to win her over...but the fact that before they fell back on the bed Jimmy brings up Clark. :rolleyes:. He's fighting a losing battle...and i dont know why the writers keep doing this?

Brizzle
04-24-2008, 10:26 PM
I agree with AndiGirl, is there ever going to be a episode where he figures out something by himself. Just think without Chloe he wouldn't be able to do anything.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 10:33 PM
Clark is the one who came up with the idea of the satellite and he is the one who decided to go to the fortress and that is how we know that Kara is on krypton and trying to kill baby Clark. Also that's how we know that Kara and Brainiac time traveled .

Chloe knows how to hack and use computers that is why Clark needs her help. If Clark could do everything then Chloe would become a useless character.

I agree he whined for about 30 seconds about Lana but that's it. He did alot more good things in my opinion then just whine. Also brainiac is more important to find because he is going to literally kill Clark and have it so he never existed!!!! That means Lex can't control him and Vertias never existed!

The only thing I didn't like about Clark is that he whined about not caring about Lex and only about Lana but that didn't last very long.

P.S. I think Chloe told him to get Jor-els Journal

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 10:41 PM
He really didnt do that much. True..he came up with the satellite, but Chloe had to get the images...and got the crap beaten out of her doing it. where was Clark?

Then...chloe is the one who comes up with the idea that maybe they went through a black hole...to Krypton....not Clark

I'm not sure...but I think chloe may have even had input on going to the fortress?? But I really cant remember.

It seems Clark is incapable of putting the pieces together himself. I normally would be agreeing with you...but at this point I feel like I have given Clark every chance in the world...and just when I think he's getting somewhere ( the stair down with lex at the funeral) he takes 5 million steps back.

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It seems the writers want him to be a whining moron.

Brizzle
04-24-2008, 10:43 PM
I hope now everyone can see that Lana was never holding Clark back, it has always been himself.

dru-zod2501
04-24-2008, 10:50 PM
I agree. But who can blame him? Brainiac's just as much of a threat as Lex is, so since Lana's under Brainiac's control, then he could think that he can get some message from Brainiac?
really late to the discussion. Just watching the epi now, but by virtue of your own statement, why wouldn't Clark be just as focused on him as he is on where Brainiac is?? especially since he's been warned numerous times by his inner circle of what the consequences would be. It's all because of Lana that he's this obsessed. Without it he'd be nothing

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 10:52 PM
Yeah Chloe did say that it was some sort of time portal after Clark mentioned that Kara was on krypton.

I do agree that they could have changed the dialouge at the start of the episode to say that he was trying to find Brainiac and the keys that Lex has. When he couldn't find anything he decided to stay with Lana for awhile.

He did give Jimmy advice and he did go to the Fortress to look for some answers about Brainiac. At the end of the episode it looked like a fire got lit under his ass and he will do what is necessary to stop Lex and Brainiac.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 10:57 PM
I really hope so...but I thought the fire was lit at the end of the last episode...and so on. Just when I think that dang fire is blazing...it fizzles out somewhere. :(

al821
04-24-2008, 10:59 PM
clark "the bda" kent: if i can't save lana, the world isnt worth saving!

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 11:00 PM
I really hope so...but I thought the fire was lit at the end of the last episode...and so on. Just when I think that dang fire is blazing...it fizzles out somewhere. :(

Next 3 episodes!! I'm sure they won't disappoint you!!! :)

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:02 PM
I've got my fingers crossed! This is kents last chance! ;)

dru-zod2501
04-24-2008, 11:09 PM
The funny thing about what everone is writing about clark. Yes clark should've been concerned about what lex may find. But like anyone else..doesn't matter if he superman or not....is controled by something that will always dominated our logical judgement...something that is more powerful than superman or evil or anything else that we know of....what he feels for lana......LOVE....that's why he stayed with lana instead of persuing lex. do you know any one who's in love that wouldn't have done what clark did.
except, what he feels is more GUILT than LOVE. He'd do anything to fix another one of his screwups even if that means letting Lex slide for however long. A real hero wouldn't have let one threat go in place of another. Especially a problem that was relatively simple to solve in comparison.


Doesn't matter ....a bleeding heart will always have more strength that what seems logical.He may be kryptonian but he has been raised as a human.
Human heroes would know what to do as well. Ollie & the League, even Chloe would've been smarter in that sense

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:09 PM
Tom Welling is a great actor and I loved the character of Clark he portrays EXCEPT the writers keep screwing him. Why do they make him so ignorant at times and after everything he has gone through and knows and how well the Kents raised him - somehow he has forget EVERYTHING - and makes Lana the priority. Hello - Lex controlling you means Lana and EVERYONE else you care about -oh, and the world- can say goodbye - but hey - you go sit with Lana all night and then get bugged that Oliver is storing stuff with Chloe at Isis or that Chloe hasn't found anything (even though she's the ONLY one prioritizing)....

The writers need to be whapped over the head.

minerva73
04-24-2008, 11:12 PM
The thing is that the episode description did say that Clark would be desperately searching for Brainiac who was the only one who could save Lana, so I'm not so surprised about his behavior.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:14 PM
clark "the bda" kent: if i can't save lana, the world isnt worth saving!

LOL that is exactly how the writer's have decided he be depicted...

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:16 PM
The thing is that the episode description did say that Clark would be desperately searching for Brainiac who was the only one who could save Lana, so I'm not so surprised about his behavior.

But he wasnt even desperately searching...he was desperately badgering Chloe...and whining to anyone who would listen.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:17 PM
But he wasnt even desperately searching...he was desperately badgering Chloe...and whining to anyone who would listen.

Or, just sitting with Lana all night instead of doing anything - don't forget that. The only thing he did was make a trip to the Fortress and then read a book (after Chloe told him to).

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:20 PM
Or, just sitting with Lana all night instead of doing anything - don't forget that. The only thing he did was make a trip to the Fortress and then read a book (after Chloe told him to).

Yep...that pretty much sums up clarks "desperate" day. Mean while chloe is hacking into everything conceivable...getting the crap kicked out of her...found out her boyfriend was betraying her....had a dancing with the stars moment...and got a hot makeout session. All the while...Clarks holding Lanas hand.

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I'm sorry i'm so negative people...Clark just brings it out in me!! ;)

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:22 PM
Yep...that pretty much sums up clarks "desperate" day. Mean while chloe is hacking into everything conceivable...getting the crap kicked out of her...found out her boyfriend was betraying her....had a dancing with the stars moment...and got a hot makeout session. All the while...Clarks holding Lanas hand.

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I'm sorry i'm so negative people...Clark just brings it out in me!! ;)

LOL - that's our hero! Oh wait, sorry, he's not our hero he's Lana's hero.

CK&CK
04-24-2008, 11:29 PM
Blame the Writers NOT Clark!!!


The Smallville writers really NEED TO GET A GRIP!!!

We are tired of Clark this way!!!

You are absolutely right.......but that excuse GETS OLD......at some point.....writting or otherwise.....this version of Clark Kent has to accept either praise or crtitism for what IT IS & what it brings to mythology......I've always said that Smallville....especially after the 3rd season....is loads of crap with gold nuggets sprinkled here and there. No nuggets tonight.....but plenty of the other....somehow that doesn't make up for it.

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Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

I've been saying this almost from the day he told Jonathan to go screw himself because he was gonna play football, and nothing would stop him. Clark Kent being a moron is really old news......but those believing that light switching Clark in season eight will make him finally Superman......well, they'll only be right in name.....unless it's secretly Bizzaro....he's more Superman than Clark will ever be.....at least "realistically" speaking on this show.

And wow.....does Jimmy raise Smallivilles game or what.....can you say RIDICULOUS.

Titan27
04-24-2008, 11:37 PM
Clark spending the whole night with Lana!!!! wow, great use of time, and continually stiff -arming Chloe to hack into govt. computers and put her a$$ on the line while Clark has been spending time with Lana which as exhausted all options for finding Brainiac & Kara; and decides apparently to use Chloe now as a last resort. Then gets mad at her for not getting any results. Clark is going to find results at the hospital or wherever Lana is. Now we know why Pete left Smallville. Chloe is the one under investigation by the feds; putting her relationship with Jimmy in trouble. AND I've never understood how on certain episodes Clark will talk about Jor-El in a good light (last week talking about his dead father figures/after Kara vanished & Zor-El told Clark about his father from "Blue") and then yelling at his father for Kara, believing he sent her away with Brainiac-that it was Jor-El's fault. Well at least we know we have 1 more season/1 more year to turn Clark into someone other than the BDA.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:41 PM
Again, I think TW does a great job but have to agree that this Clark Kent has gone down hill. We've seen him go up and down and after Descent I fully thought he was seeing the "light" and on his way to being the man of steel, then we had tonight's episode.

I hate being so negative as I'm not normally but the writer's are screwing CK... they need to get over Lana and get his priorities straight - which he had at the end of Descent, so what happened??

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:44 PM
Tom does an amazing job...and I would bet good money he thinks the same things we do. That the way they write Clark is like a 5 year old throwing a hissy fit half the time.

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Again, I think TW does a great job but have to agree that this Clark Kent has gone down hill. We've seen him go up and down and after Descent I fully thought he was seeing the "light" and on his way to being the man of steel, then we had tonight's episode.

I hate being so negative as I'm not normally but the writer's are screwing CK... they need to get over Lana and get his priorities straight - which he had at the end of Descent, so what happened??

I know....me too. This is the first time I'm close to giving up on Ck. Just when I think he's getting there the BDA resurfaces. At the end of Descent he seemed so determined...and now, he is twiddling his thumbs again. Come on Ck...either take a stand or dont. Enough of this one step forward one step back bull....be a man for goodness sake! :(

CK&CK
04-24-2008, 11:50 PM
:rotfl:hahahahhaha the best post....

I told you guys Clark is a ****en retard. I can't stand it, it makes me sick, I wish Kara would knock him out again. Seriously this is the future Superman hahaha yeah right bro, I hope Lana does dump him soon.

And for u clois fans and chlark fans you want your girl with this guy. Jimmy is smarter than him. Lois, Lana, Lex, Chloe, Kara, are all smarter than him.

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Hahaha

You are sooooooo right. But it's like of all the other morons in all the frickin world Why does it have to be Jimmy Olson that Chloe gets involved with....I mean...

Lois - Green Arrow, Aquaman, not to mention regular boyfriends that are not the boy photographer who wants to be a man (snort....now that's ridiculous)

Lana - All that is male in Smallville.....just pick from each seasonal boyfriend that she's had.

Martha - Johnathan Kent & Lionel Luthor

Chloe - the best heroine on the show (constantly saving the world), and all she can get is the boy photographer.....burned me up when she told Bart..."I still have boyfriend".....yeah, only because she's stupid. Humm.....stupid......maybe Chloe & Chlark still do deserve each other.

AlwaysRight
04-24-2008, 11:51 PM
I hope now everyone can see that Lana was never holding Clark back, it has always been himself.

I don't think it's either, it's the writers, Clana is a stupid plot they always seem to go back to

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:52 PM
I don't think it's either, it's the writers, Clana is a stupid plot they always seem to go back to

Amen!

DavetheAvatar
04-24-2008, 11:53 PM
See I'm normally one to defend Clark, he really loves Lana and so I can cut him a little slack. He might not be Superman, but he's just trying to save the girl he loves. That doesn't mean I don't want him to start to become more Superman like. I'm really sick of Clana, as most of you are, but that can't just end. It has to have a logical conclusion within the show itself.

What REALLY bothers me now though is that I thought Clark was about to step up and be the hero we want him to be. He was all set to go after Lex then suddenly is obsessed with Brainiac again. During that scene in the Isis foundation I was begging Chloe to slap him and say "Look Clark, we're all sad about Lana but get over moping about it! You can't help her if you're being controlled and Lex is the bigger threat right now. Oh and whilst we're at it, if you're obsessed with finding Brainiac after he flew off, maybe you should learn to fly! Seriously, I mean how does "I'm doing everything I can to save Lana" come out as weeks of crying and forcing me to do all the tracking work for you!?"

Or you know...something along those lines.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:53 PM
You are sooooooo right. But it's like of all the other morons in all the frickin world Why does it have to be Jimmy Olson that Chloe gets involved with....I mean...

Lois - Green Arrow, Aquaman, not to mention regular boyfriends that are not the boy photographer who wants to be a man (snort....now that's ridiculous)

Lana - All that is male in Smallville.....just pick from each seasonal boyfriend that she's had.

Martha - Johnathan Kent & Lionel Luthor

Chloe - the best heroine on the show (constantly saving the world), and all she can get is the boy photographer.....burned me up when she told Bart..."I still have boyfriend".....yeah, only because she's stupid. Humm.....stupid......maybe Chloe & Chlark still do deserve each other.


I would love to see Chloe with Bart! Heck...even Jimmy is getting in on the kick butt action. But Clark will always be the one chloe loves...and now if he could just get his act together the BDA may just deserve her!

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See I'm normally one to defend Clark, he really loves Lana and so I can cut him a little slack. He might not be Superman, but he's just trying to save the girl he loves. That doesn't mean I don't want him to start to become more Superman like. I'm really sick of Clana, as most of you are, but that can't just end. It has to have a logical conclusion within the show itself.

What REALLY bothers me now though is that I thought Clark was about to step up and be the hero we want him to be. He was all set to go after Lex then suddenly is obsessed with Brainiac again. During that scene in the Isis foundation I was begging Chloe to slap him and say "Look Clark, we're all sad about Lana but get over moping about it! You can't help her if you're being controlled and Lex is the bigger threat right now. Oh and whilst we're at it, if you're obsessed with finding Brainiac after he flew off, maybe you should learn to fly! Seriously, I mean how does "I'm doing everything I can to save Lana" come out as weeks of crying and forcing me to do all the tracking work for you!?"

Or you know...something along those lines.


I agree!

For a guy so concerned about saving Lana he wont jump off a freaking barn to try and fly because he's "afraid of heights!" I mean...whats the worst that will happen, you dent the ground and scare a couple of cows! Sheesh Clark....you really need a pair bud! :mad:.

Woo...I dont think I have ever been this worked up on here. He is just ticking me off beyond belief at this point.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:56 PM
What REALLY bothers me now though is that I thought Clark was about to step up and be the hero we want him to be. He was all set to go after Lex then suddenly is obsessed with Brainiac again. During that scene in the Isis foundation I was begging Chloe to slap him and say "Look Clark, we're all sad about Lana but get over moping about it! You can't help her if you're being controlled and Lex is the bigger threat right now. Oh and whilst we're at it, if you're obsessed with finding Brainiac after he flew off, maybe you should learn to fly! Seriously, I mean how does "I'm doing everything I can to save Lana" come out as weeks of crying and forcing me to do all the tracking work for you!?"

Or you know...something along those lines.

Now that I would have loved to see! If the writer's had done that and had Clark whapped, it would have made sense!

AlwaysRight
04-25-2008, 12:00 AM
See I'm normally one to defend Clark, he really loves Lana and so I can cut him a little slack. He might not be Superman, but he's just trying to save the girl he loves. That doesn't mean I don't want him to start to become more Superman like. I'm really sick of Clana, as most of you are, but that can't just end. It has to have a logical conclusion within the show itself.

While i seen your point, the bonehead writers had him say he spent 14 hours by Lana's side(now why wasn't he doing something about either issue during that time)

CK&CK
04-25-2008, 12:00 AM
You know, I've always been about serperating the character from the actor. It's not their fault how it's written, and they are under contract. And, I've been less than friendly to Tom Welling and Allison Mack in the past (with regards to when one should stop). But you know what....at some point....if your going to keep accepting a check and not care enough about the material to stop, then just like the glory one reaps when the work is good, then they should accept the slaps in the face they're going to get when the end product is crap. YOU HEAR THAT TOM...ALLISON....not to mention the other cast memebers.

AndiGirl
04-25-2008, 12:02 AM
You know, I've always been about serperating the character from the actor. It's not their fault how it's written, and they are under contract. And, I've been less than friendly to Tom Welling and Allison Mack in the past. But you know what....at some point....if your going to keep accepting a check and not care enough about the material to stop, then just like the glory one reaps when the work is good, then they should accept the slaps in the face they're going to get when the end product is crap. YOU HEAR THAT TOM...ALLISON....not to mention the other cast memebers.

I dont know for sure...but I heard a rumor that Tom had something to do with the writers leaving next season. Dont quote me here....just what I heard. I'm sure they voice their opinions all the time...but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter what they think, they signed a contract. :(

CK&CK
04-25-2008, 12:02 AM
Sorry, double posted somehow....or is it triple posted.....I guess some of Clark rubbed off on me tonight

AlwaysRight
04-25-2008, 12:04 AM
You know, I've always been about serperating the character from the actor. It's not their fault how it's written, and they are under contract. And, I've been less than friendly to Tom Welling and Allison Mack in the past (with regards to when one should stop). But you know what....at some point....if your going to keep accepting a check and not care enough about the material to stop, then just like the glory one reaps when the work is good, then they should accept the slaps in the face they're going to get when the end product is crap. YOU HEAR THAT TOM...ALLISON....not to mention the other cast memebers.

I don't see what AM has to complain about, they are making her look like a human version of Brainiac.

Servayne
04-25-2008, 12:05 AM
I dont know for sure...but I heard a rumor that Tom had something to do with the writers leaving next season. Dont quote me here....just what I heard. I'm sure they voice their opinions all the time...but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter what they think, they signed a contract. :(

That is true. Actors can voice their opinions all they want, but at the end of the day they are contracted. Many times the main actors will get "producer" credits and will finally have a contracted right to how the characters will be portrayed - which I'm honestly surprised that TW doesn't have.

CK&CK
04-25-2008, 12:08 AM
I dont know for sure...but I heard a rumor that Tom had something to do with the writers leaving next season. Dont quote me here....just what I heard. I'm sure they voice their opinions all the time...but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter what they think, they signed a contract. :(

Yeah, I hear you.....it's kinda what makes me bite my tongue most of the time....but occassionally.......it's gotta be said......just wish I could be sure what it is.....maybe that's why it looks like he's giving the camera the finger in one of those Screen Cap pictures....the one where he's wearing the famous Clark Kent glasses.

AndiGirl
04-25-2008, 12:11 AM
Yeah, I hear you.....it's kinda what makes me bite my tongue most of the time....but occassionally.......it's gotta be said......just wish I could be sure what it is.....maybe that's why it looks like he's giving the camera the finger in one of those Screen Cap pictures....the one where he's wearing the famous Clark Kent glasses.

He does?!? :rotfl:. Priceless!!
I'm sure he is annoyed...he has to be. I think the only people who like where this is going are the writers.

CK&CK
04-25-2008, 12:13 AM
I don't see what AM has to complain about, they are making her look like a human version of Brainiac.

Maybe if Clark were dating.....and destined for a live version of Velma (from Scooby Doo) instead of Lois....then maybe you'd understand. And it's not that Velma's also infinitely smarter than Clark (especially for being a kid's cartoon character)...it's just that they don't fit....character status wise). I'm not necessarily asking for Chlark anymore.....but geez......Jimmy Bond?......Come on.....you know very well what I'm talking about. It's a little thing called character integrity. But just like Clark's auro of Heroship.....it tends to be there one minute and gone the next.......gone so fast that even with his Superspeed....Clark could never hope to keep up......even Bart would be huffing and puffing.

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He does?!? :rotfl:. Priceless!!
I'm sure he is annoyed...he has to be. I think the only people who like where this is going are the writers.


How much you want to bet that it either gets removed or slightly changed now.......but I say let it stand. If it is intentional, then he's just basically telling TPTB what a lot of us think about them, and what a lot of us think about the Superman legacy that they're continuing to turn into a riduculous joke......funny...I am now hearing and picturing the Rocky Theme "Fly Robin Fly" (I think that's what it's called)......and I can see Clark running and jumping while trying to become airborne.....until he runs off a cliff......SPLAT! (now I hear the Batman theme for a brief second). Needless to say that in my vision........Clarkie didn't make it.

daniel2744
04-25-2008, 12:28 AM
Honestly, this is how i feel about this. i'm not defending the writers at all and i may be hated for saying this but its only my thoughts so please don't take it personal anyone. i love this show as such as the next person but i feel it has gone a long way. honestly what can the writers do to keep on expanding the series out. people are complaining about how clark is being right now? what are they going to be saying next season. i mean i know clark should take more action but the writers have to keep the show going in some way i guess and not every person is going to be happy with the direction the show is going in. the writers can't please every single person. i know it sounds like i'm on the writers side but i'm not a writer at all, i hate writing in every aspect...especially my college papers but its just that i'm tired of people complaining about the writers and where clark's character is going. if you don't like the show's direction then simply don't watch it. its that simple. i know there are weeks that bring us bad episodes and its to be expected from every tv show but writing material is not easy. well maybe it does sound like i'm on the writers side but who cares. i'm tired of people's complaints and i just felt i had to comment on it.

CK&CK
04-25-2008, 12:35 AM
Honestly, this is how i feel about this. i'm not defending the writers at all and i may be hated for saying this but its only my thoughts so please don't take it personal anyone. i love this show as such as the next person but i feel it has gone a long way. honestly what can the writers do to keep on expanding the series out. people are complaining about how clark is being right now? what are they going to be saying next season. i mean i know clark should take more action but the writers have to keep the show going in some way i guess and not every person is going to be happy with the direction the show is going in. the writers can't please every single person. i know it sounds like i'm on the writers side but i'm not a writer at all, i hate writing in every aspect...especially my college papers but its just that i'm tired of people complaining about the writers and where clark's character is going. if you don't like the show's direction then simply don't watch it. its that simple. i know there are weeks that bring us bad episodes and its to be expected from every tv show but writing material is not easy. well maybe it does sound like i'm on the writers side but who cares. i'm tired of people's complaints and i just felt i had to comment on it.

Okay, I'm saying this as politely diplomatically as possible........what you are saying is just a cop out. Go watch other shows (from the very 1st episode) like "The Pretender", "La Femme Nikita", and "Veronica Mars"......the first 2 lasted slightly longer than 4 seasons (in addition there are 2 made for TV movies for the Pretender, and a short 8 episode 5th season for La Femme Nikita.....while only 3 seasons for Veronica)......now these shows were constantly kept fresh....and brilliantly so......and they did not have the luxoury of having a long and well established Mythology to fall back on. Smallville should have been able to go even into season 8 with great storylines.....there are 70 years of comic books to draw from.

Sadly, it's people who accept Smallville so willingly just to keep it on the air......who are the reason why they keep pumping out this cheap and inferior stuff.

Servayne
04-25-2008, 12:38 AM
I think Buffy is another example of a show that went on for 7 years and was still incredible.

Smallville has the potential to continue to be great. It has a GREAT cast. Superman has so much it can work with in terms of bringing Clark to his destiny. The writers do have a tough job, I will grant you that, but this is what they do for a living - this is what they love and are good at. You don't make a show just to make one. And we've seen from other episodes, like Descent, that the writers can be incredible. That is why when they make an episode like Sleeper it's a huge disappointment.

amberdawn
04-25-2008, 02:17 AM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

I know... I know. :\

DarkseidNow
04-25-2008, 02:28 AM
Honestly, this is how i feel about this. i'm not defending the writers at all and i may be hated for saying this but its only my thoughts so please don't take it personal anyone. i love this show as such as the next person but i feel it has gone a long way. honestly what can the writers do to keep on expanding the series out. people are complaining about how clark is being right now? what are they going to be saying next season. i mean i know clark should take more action but the writers have to keep the show going in some way i guess and not every person is going to be happy with the direction the show is going in. the writers can't please every single person. i know it sounds like i'm on the writers side but i'm not a writer at all, i hate writing in every aspect...especially my college papers but its just that i'm tired of people complaining about the writers and where clark's character is going. if you don't like the show's direction then simply don't watch it. its that simple. i know there are weeks that bring us bad episodes and its to be expected from every tv show but writing material is not easy. well maybe it does sound like i'm on the writers side but who cares. i'm tired of people's complaints and i just felt i had to comment on it.


Here's the thing dude. The reason why people are complaining is because they are passionate about the show. Because they want it to become better. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion on the crap that this show is slinging at them. Just because they are complaining doesn't strip themof the right to watch SV. Nor does it mean that they are less of a fan than you.

And believe me, the people that are fed up and have had it with this show are long gone. Check the Nielsens and see for yourself.

LexLuv180
04-25-2008, 02:30 AM
This was just horrible writing, and really out of character for Clark, IMO. I get that TW was busy directing Apocalypse, but there as no reaosn to make Clark look this bad. The writers dropped the ball big time.

That may have been it. They may have had to think of excuse to have short scenes with him because of the directing. At least, I hope so.

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Yup that's all he had to do. How boring would the show be if he took the keys before Lex gets them? I rather see where the story is going and see what happens.



Well, that's true too (giggles) I'm enjoying that sub-plot

petitemimi
04-25-2008, 05:30 AM
You know, I've always been about serperating the character from the actor. It's not their fault how it's written, and they are under contract. And, I've been less than friendly to Tom Welling and Allison Mack in the past (with regards to when one should stop). But you know what....at some point....if your going to keep accepting a check and not care enough about the material to stop, then just like the glory one reaps when the work is good, then they should accept the slaps in the face they're going to get when the end product is crap. YOU HEAR THAT TOM...ALLISON....not to mention the other cast memebers.

I really don't get what you're saying. they're under contract. They can't leave, or they will be sued. The producers are their bosses and they have to do what they're told. If the writing is poor and lazy, they can't turn sh!t into gold.

Apparently, TW signed for the 8th season back in season 5, and I bet he regrets it now(it's total speculation). TW said in season 3 that he just can't fight all the time, that he has to get up in the morning, and do the best he can.

Bottom line: Clark is a total moron when it comes to the Clana crap, but TW has nothing to do with it. He said AT LEAST 3 TIMES in interviews during the course of the series that Clana should be over.

DGirlLois4Clark
04-25-2008, 06:02 AM
CAN WE JUST HAVE CLARK MAN UP PLEASE AND USE HIS BRAIN 4 ONCE.
I am sooooo sick of this. Please..u guys have one season left..use it wisely.

Clark shouldnt need Chloe to tell him EVERY bloody thing. Dnt u get that. Use ur brain Clark.

PS: Clark needs to get over the Lana thing already

Humdinger
04-25-2008, 06:05 AM
I'm cheering the villian (Lex) on this show.... not only because Rosenbaum is such a great actor..

but because its impossible to cheer for the hero, Clark, he's such an idiot.

I'm cheering Lex, too, even though we only got to see about three minutes of him. And, unbelievably, we're getting Clana even though she's in a coma. Total crap episode.

Timester
04-25-2008, 06:40 AM
Clark acted as a "human" would. I take it as that because in our everday lives do we always make the best decisions? I think not!

So, you are calling every human moron? Clark didn't acted as a human, he acted like a goodammed retarded little boy.

liana
04-25-2008, 06:49 AM
Answer: Chris Reeve's Superman in Superman II (except substitute the word Lois for Lana).

Not the same thing. When he decided to give up his powers, he didn't know about Zod. If he did, he wouldn't have, and the moment he find out, he did whatever he could to have his powers back and save the world.

So, once again, it is not the same thing. SV Clark knows the world is danger, the moment Lex is able to control him. He simply doesn't care.

jordeant1200
04-25-2008, 07:25 AM
thread callin clark stupid evry week are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it

SuperJedi
04-25-2008, 07:26 AM
I completely agree with you. Lana wont matter if Lex controls Clark. My guess is she would be one of the first people Lex has Clark take out....but for some reason clark cant seem to get that through his thick skull.


You know what? I agree I think that's also how the writers will write about it. :(

TheANIMAL (marcus)
04-25-2008, 07:29 AM
I, have a THEORY!!... http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88901


The joke maybe on all of us, or maybe Clark has some genuine mental problems.

kryptonaidxh
04-25-2008, 07:40 AM
thread callin clark stupid evry week are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it

:\:o was it useful writters spent more screentime just for Clark concerning about a pathetic vegetable and not doing something in this episode for fighting against Lex`s badness, defeating the bad guys, finding Kara?! who may be in more seroius troubles than Lana is? :\, when actually Kara sacrifice for Clark, doesn`t his cousin deserve that he cares more about finding her and helping her when she is caught by Brainiac suffering who knows what pain?!, I`m sick of Clana, that nightmare is like kryptonite for me everynight, I turn off the TV everytime she appears more than 30 seconds, and one of the reasons why I still watch this show is because we know she`s leaving and fortunately she won`t be for the 8 season.:)

petitemimi
04-25-2008, 07:44 AM
^^ I read your theory: not bad. The problem is: Clark is a lot dumber now than he used to be. I just re-watched season 2; and in several episodes, Clark find the solution all by himself. Soon, he won't be able to say anything other than: "Lana Lana" and he will need Chloe's help to tie his shoe laces.

Honestly, I don't think the writers like Clark or are interested in writing for him. I just can't remember one single interview where a writer said he liked Clark and had some insight into the character. They write around Clark, and things happen to him. He's passive.

WickedJenn
04-25-2008, 07:56 AM
Despite how Clark was in this episode, I'm putting some hope into next week's epi, maybe after all that will happen in it, Clark will finally see the big picture.

You know, I found one quote interesting. He said (and I can't remember exactly what it was) something along the lines of..."I want to be able to tell Lana that I did everything I could to help her when she comes out of this." If someone has the more exact line, feel free to correct me.

The reason I found that interesting is that he didn't say, "I'm going to tell her I love her and I'll always be with her", etc. Almost as if he realizes he can't be with her afterwards. It just left the door open, IMO.

Anyhow, sorry got a bit off topic there. I definitely rolled my eyes and cringed when he was making his angsty plea for Lana. However, I take what I can get. If THAT'S his motivation to find Brainiac and Kara, so be it. As I said above, next week's epi gives me some hope, so if things are a bit different after next week, then I can take another angsty Clark scene. I just hope it will be among the last.

RepairmanBob
04-25-2008, 08:01 AM
thread callin clark stupid evry week are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it
<!-- / message -->Clark ignoring world destroying threats so he can babble "Lana Lana Lana" and needing Chloe to get his pants on are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! And yet, the writers keep doing it.

I did not notice any "Clark is an Idiot" threads last week. Wonder why? maybe because Clark was not an idiot?

Honestly, this is how i feel about this. i'm not defending the writers at all and i may be hated for saying this but its only my thoughts so please don't take it personal anyone. i love this show as such as the next person but i feel it has gone a long way. honestly what can the writers do to keep on expanding the series out. people are complaining about how clark is being right now? what are they going to be saying next season. i mean i know clark should take more action but the writers have to keep the show going in some way i guess and not every person is going to be happy with the direction the show is going in. the writers can't please every single person. i know it sounds like i'm on the writers side but i'm not a writer at all, i hate writing in every aspect...especially my college papers but its just that i'm tired of people complaining about the writers and where clark's character is going. if you don't like the show's direction then simply don't watch it. its that simple. i know there are weeks that bring us bad episodes and its to be expected from every tv show but writing material is not easy. well maybe it does sound like i'm on the writers side but who cares. i'm tired of people's complaints and i just felt i had to comment on it.
So you are saying "love it or get the hell out?" Check the ratings - many people have. TPTB get praise when the put out great episodes like Descent or Veritas, but they certainly deserve to be criticized for producing filler-filled trash like Sleeper.

dunkman
04-25-2008, 08:03 AM
i sadly agree with everything you wrote, hence the nickname big dumb alien (BDA).

I always wondered what "BDA" stood for. What did people mean when they called Lionel the "MB" - don't tell me if it's bad words!

jimmyolsenblues
04-25-2008, 08:05 AM
Rule reminder.
I say to everyone and no one in particular, lets keep the rules in mind as we post especially:

15) At no point should anyone tell anyone else, "If you don't like it then stop watching." People are allowed to have their opinions, even if that opinion is that Smallville, or any other show we cover, is a terrible show.

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MB = magnificent Bastard

dunkman
04-25-2008, 08:14 AM
Clark acted as a "human" would. I take it as that because in our everday lives do we always make the best decisions? I think not!

I agree with the posts that Clark has been especially annoying since Brainiac put Lana in her apoplectic state (ap·o·plex·y: n. Sudden impairment of neurological function, especially that resulting from a cerebral hemorrhage [or interference from a Brain InterActive Construct]; a stroke), but you said it right that he is acting the way any human would! Clark was just getting over his obsession with Lana, which takes time (consider the first part of "Letter to Me" by Brad Paisley), & all of the sudden he finds her burning the skin off her hand - that's trauma, & people don't behave rationally when faced with trauma!

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Rule reminder.
I say to everyone and no one in particular, lets keep the rules in mind as we post especially:

15) At no point should anyone tell anyone else, "If you don't like it then stop watching." People are allowed to have their opinions, even if that opinion is that Smallville, or any other show we cover, is a terrible show.

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MB = magnificent Bastard

Oh! Thanks. I never got into text messaging, so I don't always follow the abbrev.

stenochick
04-25-2008, 08:35 AM
^^ I read your theory: not bad. The problem is: Clark is a lot dumber now than he used to be. I just re-watched season 2; and in several episodes, Clark find the solution all by himself. Soon, he won't be able to say anything other than: "Lana Lana" and he will need Chloe's help to tie his shoe laces.

Honestly, I don't think the writers like Clark or are interested in writing for him. I just can't remember one single interview where a writer said he liked Clark and had some insight into the character. They write around Clark, and things happen to him. He's passive.

Well said.

I had the same feeling about some or all of the writers not liking Clark Kent, especially after this episode.

Kevin24
04-25-2008, 09:02 AM
I think we can all agree that the only aspect we really don't like about Clark is that he stops what he is doing to take care of Lana. He puts everything on hold because of his feelings. I wouldn't call that having no balls but I would call that being immature.

If he wasn't in love with anyone I believe everyone would be that much happier.

P.S. I think I'm getting addicted to this site....I said it wouldn't happen but I think it has.....Help ME!

AndiGirl
04-25-2008, 09:29 AM
Despite how Clark was in this episode, I'm putting some hope into next week's epi, maybe after all that will happen in it, Clark will finally see the big picture.

You know, I found one quote interesting. He said (and I can't remember exactly what it was) something along the lines of..."I want to be able to tell Lana that I did everything I could to help her when she comes out of this." If someone has the more exact line, feel free to correct me.

The reason I found that interesting is that he didn't say, "I'm going to tell her I love her and I'll always be with her", etc. Almost as if he realizes he can't be with her afterwards. It just left the door open, IMO.

Anyhow, sorry got a bit off topic there. I definitely rolled my eyes and cringed when he was making his angsty plea for Lana. However, I take what I can get. If THAT'S his motivation to find Brainiac and Kara, so be it. As I said above, next week's epi gives me some hope, so if things are a bit different after next week, then I can take another angsty Clark scene. I just hope it will be among the last.

Me too....I've had a night to sleep on it, and I'm really hoping next week is better. He cant get much worse at this point. :\

Twitch
04-25-2008, 09:33 AM
P.S. I think I'm getting addicted to this site....I said it wouldn't happen but I think it has.....Help ME!
There's no help man! Once you start you can't stop, it's like a drug!

AndiGirl
04-25-2008, 09:35 AM
There's no help man! Once you start you can't stop, it's like a drug!

Pretty much...once you think you are out, it pulls you back in! ;)

darkkrypton81
04-25-2008, 09:40 AM
Jor-El
Lara
Kyla
Alicia
Virgil
Lana (first timeline)
Jonathan
Raya
Lara clone
Patricia
Lionel

These are the people that have died believing in Clark and he's letting their deaths be in vain. If Clark doesn't get his rear in gear, the body count above will go up. I just hope next week when he steps into a World without a.... Clark Kent, he will finally realize that a world needs a savior. Don't make me curse Clark all summer, TPTB.

LastSonKalEl
04-25-2008, 10:47 AM
sorry on the run haven't read everything in here but Clark is a moron bc he was all "nothing matters but Lana"...again....retarded let it go you are a hero not a whiny teenager anymore ...time to save the world so lets turn Clark Kan't into Clark Kent..!

KrissO
04-25-2008, 11:07 AM
Soo much whining here. Calm down people, don't worry... Clark will jump into his tights and lose Lana soon enough! What's the damn rush... :/

Kevin24
04-25-2008, 11:10 AM
Soo much whining here. Calm down people, don't worry... Clark will jump into his tights and lose Lana soon enough! What's the damn rush... :/

Whining? kinda like the way they accuse Clark of? Interesting XD

KrissO
04-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Whining? kinda like the way they accuse Clark of? Interesting XD


lol :D

WickedJenn
04-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Me too....I've had a night to sleep on it, and I'm really hoping next week is better. He cant get much worse at this point. :\

I figure, you know, the start of next week's would be rock bottom and then once Jor-El would implement the AU, so I'm hoping it can get better from the end of that epi.

petitemimi
04-25-2008, 12:49 PM
Soo much whining here. Calm down people, don't worry... Clark will jump into his tights and lose Lana soon enough! What's the damn rush... :/

Soon enough? You know this is the 7th season right?

Brizzle
04-25-2008, 04:16 PM
:\:o was it useful writters spent more screentime just for Clark concerning about a pathetic vegetable and not doing something in this episode for fighting against Lex`s badness, defeating the bad guys, finding Kara?! who may be in more seroius troubles than Lana is? :\, when actually Kara sacrifice for Clark, doesn`t his cousin deserve that he cares more about finding her and helping her when she is caught by Brainiac suffering who knows what pain?!, I`m sick of Clana, that nightmare is like kryptonite for me everynight, I turn off the TV everytime she appears more than 30 seconds, and one of the reasons why I still watch this show is because we know she`s leaving and fortunately she won`t be for the 8 season.:)

hahaha god u still can't get over it, seriously....sad.

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thread callin clark stupid evry week are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it

I actually like them lol

daniel2744
04-25-2008, 04:38 PM
Okay, I'm saying this as politely diplomatically as possible........what you are saying is just a cop out. Go watch other shows (from the very 1st episode) like "The Pretender", "La Femme Nikita", and "Veronica Mars"......the first 2 lasted slightly longer than 4 seasons (in addition there are 2 made for TV movies for the Pretender, and a short 8 episode 5th season for La Femme Nikita.....while only 3 seasons for Veronica)......now these shows were constantly kept fresh....and brilliantly so......and they did not have the luxoury of having a long and well established Mythology to fall back on. Smallville should have been able to go even into season 8 with great storylines.....there are 70 years of comic books to draw from.

Sadly, it's people who accept Smallville so willingly just to keep it on the air......who are the reason why they keep pumping out this cheap and inferior stuff.

i understand what you are saying. when i said that there are bad shows, i just meant that there will be bad episodes within a season that are not good compared to other episodes within that season thats all. the shows you pointed out might be good but i have never heard of them expect for Veronica Mars. i really don't follow a lot of tv shows. As for the second part, i don't accept smallville for what it is. There is stuff that i don't like about it, but i just try to focus on the good stuff cause there is no point on focusing on the negative stuff. the writers aren't listening to us anyway. (albeit it would be smart to if they did) i hope that clears up what i was saying in the first place.

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Here's the thing dude. The reason why people are complaining is because they are passionate about the show. Because they want it to become better. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion on the crap that this show is slinging at them. Just because they are complaining doesn't strip themof the right to watch SV. Nor does it mean that they are less of a fan than you.

And believe me, the people that are fed up and have had it with this show are long gone. Check the Nielsens and see for yourself.

i know that people want the show to be better but maybe what i said was wrong and i shouldn't of said it at all. i should of just kept it to myself. i understand that people want smallville to be great all the time. Then again what do i really know??

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So you are saying "love it or get the hell out?" Check the ratings - many people have. TPTB get praise when the put out great episodes like Descent or Veritas, but they certainly deserve to be criticized for producing filler-filled trash like Sleeper.


you know what i shouldn't of said anything. i guess i was a little bit upset that people are talking so much crap about the writers and clarks direction and it got to me. i didn't even know that telling people to leave and not watch the show was against the rules on this forum so i apologize for saying that in the first place.

Socrate
04-25-2008, 05:13 PM
I agree 100% that Clark couldn't just go pickpocket Lex and run to Zurich himself or swallow keys (:P ) cause such a shocker would make Lex go vegetable like Lana :P . But honestly it doesn't take a lot of effort to come up with some better explanation/line then :
"omg Chloe I didn't have 10 seconds to go visit Lex's mension...." actually I am hell impressed how they came up with sth like that...
However, what happened might still develope into something nice in further episodes, but the way writers served it.... eh it seems there is competition going on in studio: I dare You to make BDA look even more dumb in next episode... :(

Darth Pipes
04-25-2008, 05:48 PM
The only thing Clark loves as much as Lana is guilt. He loves blaming himself for anything bad that happens, even stuff he has no control over. Jor-El died to ensure that he would be safe and Clark blames himself. Despite the fact that he was an infant. He blames himself for the meteor shower that brought him over to Earth, despite the fact he was an infant and didn't blow up the planet. You would think with that someone who always feels guilt would want to stop Lex from gaining control over him and forcing him to do terrible things that will continue to make him feel guilty. When that happens, Lex will be able to force Clark to do things against his will. In that case, I WILL blame Clark for whatever damage is caused because he refused to do anything about it. If he doesn't care that Lex will be able to use him as a weapon and refuses to do anything about it, he will be just as guilty as Lex for whatever damage is caused.

Yesterday's episode makes me glad that there will be new showrunners next season. I'm hoping the new powers to be will not be so loyal to Gough and Miller's "vision" of the show. I think it's their continued portrayel of Clark that is holding back the show. Don't get me wrong...I do love Smallville and I think TW has continually done a fine job. But the refusal to allow Clark any growth past one episode is a major flaw to this show.

MetroGirl06
04-25-2008, 06:51 PM
To sum it all up, Clark needs to start thinking with his big brain.

Servayne
04-25-2008, 06:59 PM
Me too....I've had a night to sleep on it, and I'm really hoping next week is better. He cant get much worse at this point. :\

Same...I left because I was so frustrated last night and now I'm extremely hopeful for the rest of the season b/c I love this show and it has so much to offer

CK&CK
04-26-2008, 01:20 PM
thread callin clark stupid evry week are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it

Then how do you explain away the list of dead people below who believed in him? If fans can praise him every other week when he's a half way decent hero (although he's still constantly a half wit)....then fans have the right to call him a moron when he is one. I've been saying the same thing about Clarkie since somwhere in Season 4.....and things haven't changed.....they've only gotten worse.....but thankfully......at least more OBVIOUS that he is a MORON. Mabye the powers that be will listen to the number of these complaints now.


Jor-El
Lara
Kyla
Alicia
Virgil
Lana (first timeline)
Jonathan
Raya
Lara clone
Patricia
Lionel

These are the people that have died believing in Clark and he's letting their deaths be in vain. If Clark doesn't get his rear in gear, the body count above will go up. I just hope next week when he steps into a World without a.... Clark Kent, he will finally realize that a world needs a savior. Don't make me curse Clark all summer, TPTB.

Couldn't have put it better myself........and I got tired of cursing Clark since Season 5 (though I force myself to when it feels like it's needed).....I just accept that he's a moron who will light switch into Smallville's (the TV show's) version of Superman (the World's Most Powerful and 2nd Greatest Hero) one day......but that won't wash away the crappy past that these Smallville episodes have created for him.

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Clark ignoring world destroying threats so he can babble "Lana Lana Lana" and needing Chloe to get his pants on are soooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb!!!!!!!!!!!! And yet, the writers keep doing it.

I did not notice any "Clark is an Idiot" threads last week. Wonder why? maybe because Clark was not an idiot?So you are saying "love it or get the hell out?" Check the ratings - many people have. TPTB get praise when the put out great episodes like Descent or Veritas, but they certainly deserve to be criticized for producing filler-filled trash like Sleeper.

So true......but I have to laugh when I read your line about getting his pants on.....our noble hero's problem is that he's constantly trying to get into a certain someone else's pants.........yeah, Oliver had Clark the loser pegged.....go on Clarkie...bang Lana (or in this case sit next to her and have a pity party) while more people keep on dying....while the World Needs you.

If some fans want to use the excuse of "he's not Superman yet", "everyone makes mistakes" (over, and over, and over?), and "everyone deserves to be happy".....then all I would logically ask is that they not include him in the top echelon of Superheroes (you can't have your cake and eat it to).....Under these cicrumstances, Supes should'nt even be in the top 10.....because if fans really want to give him that kind of leeway, then I can think of more deserving Men/Women in that case.....more deserving to be the definition of the term "Superhero"......not the least of which is Oliver Queen.

petitemimi
04-26-2008, 04:38 PM
The writers let Oliver walk all over Clark last year to raise interest in him so they could get a spin-off with Green Arrow and his cool toys and costume. They did that of course at the expense of Clark's character.

chlarker4eva08
04-26-2008, 05:47 PM
may i mention that he's a BDA, who doesnt care about anythin except 4 Lana

nk_84
04-26-2008, 06:02 PM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

I think what they tried to do was show Clarks compassion for others before putting himself first. But they kinda did it wrong and made him look like a dumbass:lol:

But yeah, the idea was to not look selfish, even if he was made out to be dummy.

clarkbunny
04-26-2008, 06:03 PM
I have to say I have never really agreed with Clark's BDA label apart from in this episode with that scene at the beginning. I was like what??? How could he not care about Lex gaining control of him - I made a silent plea to the writers not to set up the finale as YET ANOTHER case of Clark not listening to what Jor-El told him to do and having to suffer the 'consequences'.

I just thought it was pointless Clark sitting with Lana all that time instead of trying to get the keys from Lex, it's not helping anybody. Plus if he really cared about stopping Brainiac maybe he should have made more effort when Brainiac was right in front of him instead of letting him get away with Kara then pushing poor Chloe to find out where he's gone to.

I hope Clark feels bad when he finds out Chloe has come under the government's radar and got beaten up trying to assist him. There was him getting all high and mighty about Chloe being in danger working for Oliver Queen. Suddenly being pushed to the floor and having her bag slashed doesn't seem so bad compared to being bit*h slapped/punched by government agents :lol:

CK&CK
04-26-2008, 08:24 PM
I hope Clark feels bad when he finds out Chloe has come under the government's radar and got beaten up trying to assist him. There was him getting all high and mighty about Chloe being in danger working for Oliver Queen. Suddenly being pushed to the floor and having her bag slashed doesn't seem so bad compared to being bit*h slapped/punched by government agents :lol:

This hypocritcal situation that Clark has put himself into......well, it had me laughing my A** off.......WHAT A DUMB A** HYPOCRITE OUR HERO IS.

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The writers let Oliver walk all over Clark last year to raise interest in him so they could get a spin-off with Green Arrow and his cool toys and costume. They did that of course at the expense of Clark's character.

They do everything at the expense of Clark Kent's character.......that's what happens when the writters have no bloody imagination.

kryptonaidxh
04-26-2008, 08:34 PM
may i mention that he's a BDA, who doesnt care about anythin except 4 Lana

:rolleyes:yes, Im sick of that too, I have lana and Clana even in my soup!, is it too much to ask that Clark gets over that crappy and pointless relationship already, and not to ear to him saying her name one more time?:cool:

Este
04-26-2008, 08:52 PM
is it too much to ask that Clark gets over that crappy and pointless relationship already, and not to ear to him saying her name one more time?:cool:

Actually, in the first scene with AM, when TW says : "The only thing that matters now is Lana," I've got the impression, looking at his face, that if he never had to pronounce that name again, he'd be the happiest man in the universe.

petitemimi
04-27-2008, 10:33 AM
Actually, in the first scene with AM, when TW says : "The only thing that matters now is Lana," I've got the impression, looking at his face, that if he never had to pronounce that name again, he'd be the happiest man in the universe.

It's funny because I felt the same way. The whole scene looked as though both Tom and Allison didn't believe their lines for one second.

But it's highly subjective. Maybe I'm just projecting; because I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

DestinyAw8s
04-27-2008, 11:00 AM
I have to say that Clark's comment about Lex and the keys in "Sleeper" was pretty rock bottom for me. I think he just might (crosses fingers and hopes real hard) realize the magnitude of such a thoughtless dismissal when the absolute evil of Lex Luthor hits him between the eyes. Maybe he will finally wake up and embrace the whole world, not just his little corner of it. Maybe.:\

CK&CK
04-27-2008, 12:16 PM
Quote:
[Originally Posted by Este
Actually, in the first scene with AM, when TW says : "The only thing that matters now is Lana," I've got the impression, looking at his face, that if he never had to pronounce that name again, he'd be the happiest man in the universe. ]



It's funny because I felt the same way. The whole scene looked as though both Tom and Allison didn't believe their lines for one second.

But it's highly subjective. Maybe I'm just projecting; because I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

I had the same feeling.....and even re-watching it...I wasn't so sure it was just me....but the more I hear about it from others...the more it seems possible. And given the show's constantly repeating themes...to the point of beating a dead horse....it makes a lot of sense that they would be sick of it by now.

AndiGirl
04-27-2008, 12:19 PM
I have to say that Clark's comment about Lex and the keys in "Sleeper" was pretty rock bottom for me. I think he just might (crosses fingers and hopes real hard) realize the magnitude of such a thoughtless dismissal when the absolute evil of Lex Luthor hits him between the eyes. Maybe he will finally wake up and embrace the whole world, not just his little corner of it. Maybe.:\

I'm starting to see that Clark never does the right thing from the beginning. He always waits until things get out of hand...and then he fixes them. So this wont be any different. He didnt listen to Chloe....and now that things are out of control he will fix it. I wish he could just learn to take simple measures to prevent the end of the world. :lol:. But I guess if he did that we wouldnt have a show.

DestinyAw8s
04-27-2008, 03:05 PM
I'm starting to see that Clark never does the right thing from the beginning. He always waits until things get out of hand...and then he fixes them. So this wont be any different. He didnt listen to Chloe....and now that things are out of control he will fix it. I wish he could just learn to take simple measures to prevent the end of the world. :lol:. But I guess if he did that we wouldnt have a show.
If it was the intention of the writers to pi** everyone off, they certainly succeeded. LOL And yes, it's unfortunate that Chloe has to beat him over the head with the obvious, and STILL not make any headway. :\ I really don't know why Clark can't ever seem to grasp what's right in front of his nose. But he never does, until all hell breaks loose. As you stated, AndiGirl, it probably won't be any different this time around. It seems to be a favorite plot device of the writers.

migo
04-29-2008, 02:57 AM
Totally agree. Damnit. What on earth is Clark thinking? He can hide near Lex's mansion, use his X-Ray vision and Super Hearing to figure out what Lex is up to. Sprint to Zurich before Lex gets there (incidentally, he doesn't need the bloody key to get to the FOS, he can run around the world in quite a short time), keep watching Lex with his X-Ray vision and Super Hearing when he's going into the bank. See that he has the keys in on him, and pull a Bart Allen and steal them from him.

This is why you can't have anyone be Superman in an RPG, if he actually has the brain of a human, and not a dumb Kryptonian, he'd be unstoppable.

Simba_Muffy
12-14-2010, 01:28 AM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.


A&M must really hate Clark Kent/Superman

luckycloisfan
12-15-2010, 11:36 AM
A&M must really hate Clark Kent/Superman

yeah, they really ran Clark's character and the show into the ground!

Simba_Muffy
01-02-2011, 10:27 PM
yeah, they really ran Clark's character and the show into the ground!

Thank God they left after S7. I couldn't take it anymore!

Compton
01-31-2011, 03:40 AM
I have just watched Sleeper for the first time and thought it was the worst episode ever! However, I will hang on as I know that things get better.

Simba_Muffy
03-30-2011, 09:14 PM
That line makes me laugh, cry and it frightens me.:lol::(:eek: