Going back in time to 1989

[lovingtom]

"at the end chole says "maybe it's time for kal'el to go home".

how the hell is clark gonna go back in time he can't even fly... (jor'el)?this one i can't wait.

[Cage]

If krypton is still around, Kal-eL never came to earth - hence - no Clark

[Ardiem3]

Jor-El will probably help him go back in time, or mabye hell learn how to fly? We'll just have to wait and see...

[jimmyolsenblues]

"at the end chole says "maybe it's time for kal'el to go home".

how the hell is clark gonna go back in time he can't even fly... (jor'el)?this one i can't wait.

great question, i got no answer.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Jor-El will probably help him go back in time, or mabye hell learn how to fly? We'll just have to wait and see...
Even if he learns how to fly there is no guarantee that the temporal anomaly or whatever one wants to call it will be there whenever he is able to reach that spot of the galaxy which God only knows how long it could take even assuming Clark goes there flying at the speed of light. He will need Jor-El's help for sure this time around. Sadly next episode seems to just deal on how Earth would be like in his absence, and I wanted to see how Krypton looked like so much!:\

[prairiefire]

It is a cool premise. I am eager to see where it goes. Even though i am against time travel, if they pull it off right I will be the first to recant.

[RJLCyberPunk]

It is a cool premise. I am eager to see where it goes. Even though i am against time travel, if they pull it off right I will be the first to recant.


So I guess you never liked Dr Who and the Back to the future films all that much did you?:rolleyes: Anyway time travel in this show is not without precedent he did use it to save Lana a few seasons back as I recall... Now he once agaiin needs to time travel to save himself and well just about everybody in the process...

[Ardiem3]

Even if he learns how to fly there is no guarantee that the temporal anomaly or whatever one wants to call it will be there whenever he is able to reach that spot of the galaxy which God only knows how long it could take even assuming Clark goes there flying at the speed of light. He will need Jor-El's help for sure this time around. Sadly next episode seems to just deal on how Earth would be like in his absence, and I wanted to see how Krypton looked like so much!:\

Whos' to say that we still wont see Krypton, but I imagine recreating Krypton on TV's "Smallville" wouldnt come cheap...

[superspider02]

yea i wish we could see krypton and was lucky to see that little bit back in kara.

[minerva73]

Good question.

In the official episode thread, someone did make an important statement. If Brainiac is trying to kill Clark in 1989 and hasn't succeeded (since Clark is still alive at the end of the episode), then shouldn't Jor-El and Lara be alive? If they are, then they should be able to protect their son. :\

[Ardiem3]

Good question.

In the official episode thread, someone did make an important statement. If Brainiac is trying to kill Clark in 1989 and hasn't succeeded (since Clark is still alive at the end of the episode), then shouldn't Jor-El and Lara be alive? If they are, then they should be able to protect their son. :\

Brainiac is just trying to kill Kal-El, and mabye hasnt attempted to yet, for Kara is just warning Clark of his plans to. If Lara and Jor-El are still alive to protect Kal-El, wouldnt Kara be there also to? Who's to say or know what Brainiac is doing up there but well just have to wait and see how this all unfolds.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Why would Brainiac go back to 1989? That's the year Clark landed on earth. According to the Smallville mythology, it took Clark and Kara about three years to make their journey, so shouldn't he go back to around 1986?

I'm confused, could somebody please explain it?

[thehenry89]

this is a valid point, since per SV canon, we have clark an infant leaving krypton. and then clark is a toddler when he reaches earth in 1989. so technically he should be going back to 1986.

[Superman of Krypton]

Because the writers goofed up!



You are 100% correct. Clark was a baby when they sent him away from Krypton (and it expoded)..we saw flashbacks of that.

Clark was 3 when the Kents found him in Smallville in 1989.

Brainiac SHOULD have gone back to 1986/7.

[roccanater]

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That would seem so.

[Randy G.]

Well, if you noticed, Chloe did say "Give or take a few light years," so technically they covered their bases with that line. :)

[krpto]

Well, Chloe DID say "Give or take a few light years," so technically they covered their bases with that line. :)

exactly

[IamProdigy]

Well, think about it...Kara might send messages that say Brainiac and Kara are going to Krypton, but really, Brainiac might just go back in time just to destroy the ship before it comes into Earth's atmosphere, because it seems there will already be a meteor shower in the AU.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Brainiac is just trying to kill Kal-El, and mabye hasnt attempted to yet, for Kara is just warning Clark of his plans to. If Lara and Jor-El are still alive to protect Kal-El, wouldnt Kara be there also to? Who's to say or know what Brainiac is doing up there but well just have to wait and see how this all unfolds.

Remember the back to the future movies? Brainiac wants to destroy Kal El and all those that can oppose him and if that means creating a time paradox that destroys half the universe or at least our own galaxy so be it! So he needs to be stopped at all costs because it is really going for broke this time around...

[Eri-El]

Well, if you noticed, Chloe did say "Give or take a few light years," so technically they covered their bases with that line. :)


Good Call

[Cychotec]

Well, if you noticed, Chloe did say "Give or take a few light years," so technically they covered their bases with that line. :)

yeah, that line itself was a bit of a screw up, always gotta try and use the "buzz words" even if incorrectly. She shoulda just said years... because a lightyear is a measure of distance, not time.

[TECHWON]

He's Gotta Go And He's Gotta Stop Being A Whimp About Saving The World And Start Doing It Cuz He's Sometimes Too Whiny At Times But Still Was A Good Episode

[ClarkyBoy14]

Well, if you noticed, Chloe did say "Give or take a few light years," so technically they covered their bases with that line. :)

Ah, thank you. I thought there may have been something I missed. :)

[Alexander III]

If krypton is still around, Kal-eL never came to earth - hence - no Clark

If Clark never existed, Lana would have lived a normal life and Lex's not turning THAT evil after all. And so much more.

[Jo-jo]

If krypton is still around, Kal-eL never came to earth - hence - no Clark


You git that right!!!

[msleggie]

That's what I was thinking, I just want to see how in the world Clark isn't going 2 pull this off

[minerva73]

If krypton is still around, Kal-eL never came to earth - hence - no Clark

If Krypton was still around, it doesn't mean that Clark couldn't come to Earth. Krypton was still in their Civil War in the later 1980s. Jor-El sent Clark back to Earth BEFORE the planet exploded, so even if it still was around, Clark may have already been on his way to Earth. The planet still would be there, but Clark was just sent to Earth as a precaution.

I don't even know if that makes any sense... :o

[prairiefire]

So I guess you never liked Dr Who and the Back to the future films all that much did you?:rolleyes: Anyway time travel in this show is not without precedent he did use it to save Lana a few seasons back as I recall... Now he once agaiin needs to time travel to save himself and well just about everybody in the process...

I love Back to the Future. I don't dislike time travel by itself, but like you just said Clark has already done it 3 yrs or so ago (not to mention the movies). I think it is just a lazy crutch that writers can fall back onto and don't want to see it over used and abused. IN comics the 2 quickest ways to make a retarded and ridiculous story is clones and time travel. But if they pull it off, I'll think differently.

And no, I do not like Dr. Who., Dr. Doom though is awesome.

[smallvillelogan]

In SV continuity, didn't Clark leave Krypton in 1986, and it took three years to get to Earth, meaning that he arrived on EARTH in 1989? It doesn't make sense to me why he would still be on Krypton.

Is this correct, or am I misunderstanding the continuity?

[curiosity]

"at the end chole says "maybe it's time for kal'el to go home".

how the hell is clark gonna go back in time he can't even fly... (jor'el)?this one i can't wait.

To 1989??? Clark is supposed to be almost 21, or just turning 21. Krypton would've already exploded in 1989.

[kal-el_Girl]

Remember the back to the future movies? Brainiac wants to destroy Kal El and all those that can oppose him and if that means creating a time paradox that destroys half the universe or at least our own galaxy so be it! So he needs to be stopped at all costs because it is really going for broke this time around...

oh Back to the Future!!!!!!
thx for referencing my fave movies of all time, when I heard about time traveling in smallville well, it was incredibly exciting one can always hope to travel back in time and make life better...
ok back to smallville.... so how would smallville look w/o clark well? with at least 300 people more (all those fotw that have died through out the series) and pa and ma kent in the farm taking care of the cows and lana probably dead LOL remember the tornado? there was nobody there to save her, one can only wish.....:rotfl:

[minerva73]

To 1989??? Clark is supposed to be almost 21, or just turning 21. Krypton would've already exploded in 1989.

Randy G. said in the first page that Chloe said "Give or take a few light years", so the situation was covered about the exact time that Clark would arrive in.

[Odysseus]

*cues the "Back to the Future" music*

I guess Clark's gonna ask Chloe to figure out how to modify a DeLorean into a time machine for him to use. :lol:

[curiosity]

Not the time travel plot, and killing Clark as a baby. Didn't we all hate that episode of Lois and Clark, I know I did! Although, this doesn't seem as cheesy, it seems stupid, and Clark seems comatose when he's talking. He doesn't seem like Clark at all. I know he's supposed to be once again sad over Lana, but still. He seems like he's sleepwalking when he's talking. I'm sure it's the lines, and not the actor though.

[Chloe_is_my_Hero]

Maybe the caves will play a part since in the Relic episode he could see back in time???? OK, bad theory, but perhaps the caves can help???

[kal-el_Girl]

*cues the "Back to the Future" music*

I guess Clark's gonna ask Chloe to figure out how to modify a DeLorean into a time machine for him to use. :lol:

easy, after Doc I mean Chloe modified the flux capacitor to get enough plutonium I mean Kryptonite to travel throught time AND galaxies Marty I mean Clark got a few belongings together and got Eistein I mean Shelby to travel with him back in time just in time to save Loraine I mean Kara

Easy....:D

[kal-el returns]

i just want something to be cleared up: the 2008 kara went through some black hole which sent her back to the year 1989 in krypton, would that mean that there would be two kara's in that year; the 2008 one and 1989 one? because how else would she know to warn clark about braniac's plan to kill baby kal-el?

[LuckyLois]

Didn't Lara use a Portal when she came to see the Kent home? Maybe he can use that?

[Superboy2]

Maybe he and Zor-El were allies and thats why Zor-El wanted to kill Kal-El.

[X-Terminator]

Just to clarify something. The entry in Dr. Swann's journal was dated 1989. I'm assuming this means that he received this message in 1989, but this does not mean that the message was send by Jor-El/Kara in 1989. Since Krypton is a couple of lightyears away from Earth, the transmission would take several years to reach Earth, which means that Kara and Brainiac are not in the year 1989 but rather in the year 1989 minus the amount of lightyears between Earth and Krypton. Now, Kal-El travelled the distance in 3 years and arrived on Earth in 1989. If he was travelling at (near) light speed, that means that Krypton is about 3 lightyears away from Earth and Kara + Brainiac are in the year 1986, the same year that Clark will be send to Earth.

I really like time-travel plots, but sadly they are rarely done right. Seeing as how the Smallville writers are not the best in terms of continuity I am fearing that this plot may not be handled in the best way, which really would be a shame.

[curiosity]

I love Back to the Future. I don't dislike time travel by itself, but like you just said Clark has already done it 3 yrs or so ago (not to mention the movies). I think it is just a lazy crutch that writers can fall back onto and don't want to see it over used and abused. IN comics the 2 quickest ways to make a retarded and ridiculous story is clones and time travel. But if they pull it off, I'll think differently.

And no, I do not like Dr. Who., Dr. Doom though is awesome.

No one really liked the Lois and Clark time travel and clone story arcs, so why would they copy it for Smallville?

[Yasise]

O.k., I haven't seen the episode yet, but I've already read a lot about it and I'm afraid, I'm not going to like it very much.

Nevertheless I've got a question about this supposed "Time Traveling" thing.

We all know by now, what the next episode "Apocalypse" will be about: The AU and the question, what would have happened, if Clark never had come to earth?

How is "Sleeper" with this time traveling issue in the end and the AU fitting together then?
Is Clark living through the AU during his trip back to Krypton??? Or will he first experience the AU and its consequences and then go back in time afterwards???

Maybe I'm so confused, because I haven't seen "Sleeper" yet, but maybe you can explain that to me in advance?

[smallvillelogan]

Just to clarify something. The entry in Dr. Swann's journal was dated 1989. I'm assuming this means that he received this message in 1989, but this does not mean that the message was send by Jor-El/Kara in 1989. Since Krypton is a couple of lightyears away from Earth, the transmission would take several years to reach Earth, which means that Kara and Brainiac are not in the year 1989 but rather in the year 1989 minus the amount of lightyears between Earth and Krypton. Now, Kal-El travelled the distance in 3 years and arrived on Earth in 1989. If he was travelling at (near) light speed, that means that Krypton is about 3 lightyears away from Earth and Kara + Brainiac are in the year 1986, the same year that Clark will be send to Earth.


You are right. I thought about this very thing while watching the final scene last night. If it's not 1986 on Earth when Clark gets to Krypton, but 1989 instead, then that's a plot hole.