"Sleeper" - Worst episode ever?

[Mike Mancini]

Yes....even worse than Hero. At least in Hero we got to see SOMETHING! Pretty much absolutely NOTHING happened tonight other than Lex opening the box and getting the compass. And how exactly is this thing supposed to lead him to the fortress or control the traveler? Jimmy as James Bond? Dumb. I can take him recusing Chloe at the end, but the whole spy in the vent thing was really stupid. And Clark....really? Your ONLY living BLOOD relative has been kidnapped the an evil Kryptonian computer and taken god knows where and you're not even trying to find her? You're spending all your time with a Catatonic Lana which will do absolutely NOTHING to help her. And why didn't Chloe just use Olivers Satelite to find the wormhole? It would've been a lot less dangerous. Not to mention Lex halping Chloe and Jimmy with the feds...what was up with that? Unless he gets Jimmy to steal the key to the fortress for him in a later episode, what can Jimmy possibly offer a guy like Lex who apparantly can override government clearance to fly to Zurich and back to Metropolis in what seemed like maybe an hour or two and who can tell the feds to drop something and they just do. This episode really lived up to its name i tell ya. And this is coming from the guy that actually liked Fierce and most other filler episodes. If this was at the begining of the season and not part of this big mythology arc i may have a different opinion but it was definately not the proper place for a dumb episode like this.

[Poyntz]

THANK YOU!!! I agree with you 100%.

There were a few SMALL things i liked but very few. Like i did enjoy the Jimmy/Clark Scene when clark thought it was him he was talking about.

And why would a Fed ask a no name camera guy to go all James Bond on them. Dont they have their own resources and rained people.

I found myself saying "give me a break" out loud though this episode. Like all the James Bond moves by Jimmy. Just dont by it. I did Like how Chloe through Jimmy for a curve that i chuckled at breifly.

Also. Chloe just got beaten up good and was willing to die for the risk the clark ask her to talk (and asking her to take that risk in the first place floored me too after he gave all that poop to Oliver about putting chloe in danger) and at the end of the episode the chlark scene didnt even have anything to say about it. He had no concern about putting her through what she went through.

Not to mention how angry i was when he said he spend the whole night with catatonic lana. I was like GGGRRRRRRRRRR.

I too was wondering why they didn't use Oliver's satalite. Or even have Oliver come back to help other then just the Justice Leagues supplies stored at the ISIS. (Which seems very unsecured if you ask me)

Also the dance with chloe and Jimmy was stupid and so out of character for both (although chloe looked absolutely beautiful). I would of loved it if Clark saved her in the end. She left a message for him on his cell before went there.

Ok enough venting.. I"m just happy someone else felt the same as me.

[Mar-El]

I still think Hero was worse, but this is definitely in the top 3 worst (of the season) for me.

[stenochick]

To those of you who have already seen Sleeper, is it explained in the episode why it is called Sleeper? or did the writer think that it would be that boring?

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

If it sucks that bad, i'll skip it seeing as only 2 bits of develpment happen.

[Poyntz]

I have no idea why they called it sleeper.
Maybe it had to do with Chloe's hacking into government stuff.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I liked it better the second time. It's a set up for next weeks episode. I loved that scene with Clark and Jimmy.

The guy at the bank saying to Lex " your not one of them" wonder who he is.
Getting the compass, whatever that's for, hey might be to find the fortress. Chloe telling Clark it's time for Kal el to go home or else he'll never exist.

Of course the feds had to get to Jimmy he's the one that's close to Chloe but she way smarter not to notice she was being watched.

The scene with Chloe and Jimmy when she was going to be honest with some of his questions and then remembering what Clark had said, he kissed her instead.awwwwwwwwww

I think it was well done and like I said it's a set up for the higher picture next week

[Twitch]

Yep that's my guess, it's referring to sleeper agents, who are spies essentially. There was a bunch of spy stuff going on in this episode.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I have no idea why they called it sleeper.
Maybe it had to do with Chloe's hacking into government stuff.


Sleeper cell, terrorist stuff, that's what the feds thought she was, a terrorist

[kryptonaidxh]

:\hello people, I haven´t watched the episode, but what I see that it´s written it seems tghis episode just sucks!:rolleyes:, mostly about Clark doing absolutely nothing for finding Kara and the little actions he did were all around his catatonic Lana:mad:grrr
did´t he learned the lesson in "veritas"?:cool: when he didn´t want to learn to fly and he did nothin, then Kara had to sacrifice for his happyness and Braniac did harm to Lana.
I don´t even want to watch the episode tonight for what I red.:p

[Poyntz]

I think the guy in the bank was reffering to not being one of the vertias gang. Maybe he was someone hired to protect the traveler by the swans or lional?

Well i understood the feds needed Jimmy because he was close to her. But they wouldn't have him do all the stuff they had him do Give him high tech equipment with no training how to use any of it? I dont know it just seemed all to odd to me.

Actually i did like that scene you mentioned with jimmy and chloe and the kiss that was cute.

I know they were building up for next episode. It just seemed like such a waste of an episode at the end of the season. At least thats how i felt.

[Twitch]

Sleeper cell, terrorist stuff, that's what the feds thought she was, a terrorist

Oh that makes a lot more sense.

I agree with Mar-El, I still think Hero is the worst episode this season thus far, but Sleeper is definitely up there. I really didn't enjoy it.

[stenochick]

Sleeper cell, terrorist stuff, that's what the feds thought she was, a terrorist

So based on everyone's input, either Chloe is the Sleeper as in terrorist/part of a sleeper cell, or Jimmy is the Sleeper as in spy/sleeper agent, or the entire episode is a Sleeper as in a really lame episode. :rolleyes:

Maybe I will like it since I'm going into it expecting not to be impressed.

[Twitch]

So based on everyone's input, either Chloe is the Sleeper as in terrorist/part of a sleeper cell, or Jimmy is the Sleeper as in spy/sleeper agent, or the entire episode is a Sleeper as in a really lame episode. :rolleyes:

That pretty much sums it up, I choose all of the above. :lol:


Maybe I will like it since I'm going into it expecting not to be impressed.

That's a good point, you'll probably end up loving it now. :p

[Poyntz]

I can't wait till the Americans see to see what they have to say about it!!

[Cage]

I thought Canada was in North American - aren't you American also

[manofsteel2009]

wow wow wow wow!!. Don't ever call canadians americans. They hate it & for good reason to. The two countries are very much different.


Steve

[cksidekick]

^^^

um.....first of all, i will tell you that many of my Canadian friends would ask you not to speak on their behalf...your personal opinion is yours to have, but please don't assume you represent ANY Canadians (as you are from Australia)...

yes, the countries are verry different, but as a PROUD American, i find your comment quite insulting!





BTW Welcome to K-site...;)


my apologies to everyone else for getting off topic here...

[Poyntz]

ack didnt mean to start a controversy here !!!lol

Yes we are all North Americans. But i think the term American's comes from the USA Title. united states of AMERICA.

we Canadians are usually just called canadians.. or Canuks.. or.. well i['m sure there are lots of names some of them good some are bad lol just like everything :)

It was easier to say Americans as instead of USA'ians ? LOL

Besides i don't think all Canadians get to see the show a day earlier its only ones that have the A Channel thing. I think its only in Ontario.

[go_clo]

Besides i don't think all Canadians get to see the show a day earlier its only ones that have the A Channel thing. I think its only in Ontario.
Ya I'm Canadian and actually don't even get to see it till after the US does. I don't get to see it till sunday.

We use to have A-Channel here but for some reason, they replaced it with City TV!

[nyczwillz]

Yup..Every season has their worse episode and I think this makes the top for this season.

[ZODisGOD]

I thought the last five or so minutes was good.
Then after seeing the ending, the entire episode makes sense and it's not all bad.

[jimmyolsenblues]

the episode was not that bad, i liked it. i like jimmy.

[Ardiem3]

Dont you mean "worst episode" and this episode is not that. This was a good episode and to say that its worse than "Fierce," ok... :lol:

[Cage]

Filler Eppy

[AlwaysRight]

It was ok if you view it as something that is not part of the smallville universe, but other then that it was a rather pointless episode.

[Ardiem3]

It was ok if you view it as something that is not part of the smallville universe, but other then that it was a rather pointless episode.

It wasnt a filler episode, and it set up the last 3 episodes of the season. Lex know has coordinates and I think it was a good episode.

[Lostfan588]

worst....yes. for me, it makes promise look wonderful!

[mistaguitarmasta]

Not the best episode of the season, but DEFINITELY not the "worse", as you so elegantly put it. It wasn't completely filler, it advanced the season plot and got the ball rolling on the end of the season.

[open2freaks]

I was force to see it to the end! So bad!:(

[Ardiem3]

worst....yes. for me, it makes promise look wonderful!

All I can say is, "ookkk..." :lol:

[luvinChlark]

It was really bad. Fierce was the worst and sleeper was the 2nd worst for me this season...

[DreadShamus]

This reminded me of how the X-Files used to make a silly episode every season or two. Great fun to watch, but they didn't really pull it off for me. It was cute, but a downer for what I was expecting. Nowhere near the worst of the season though.

[Ardiem3]

I was force to see it to the end! So bad!:(

Dont you hate it when youre force to do something :lol: I thought it was a good episode because it set up the last 3 episodes, and just wasnt bad IMO.

[RepairmanBob]

The good stuff (basically all Lex and Clark at the FoS) could have been the foundation for an outstanding A plot.

The blah stuff (Jimmy Bond/Chimmy) could have been an OK / "fast forward through Clana 2.0" B plot.

Clark refusing to do anything but stay by Lana's bedside and needing Chloe to feed him instructions to do anything at all should have been dropped entirely.

But as it is? Sleeper would be a bad filler episode at any time of the season. It blows my mind that this is what the show came up with after the greatness of Descent. They have four episodes left, and they waste one on JimmyVille? Seriously? This made Hero look good - at least Clark had a brain and Chloe had some self respect and Pete went away when it was over.

Still not as bad as Promise, though.
Dont you hate it when youre force to do something :lol: I thought it was a good episode because it set up the last 3 episodes, and just wasnt bad IMO.<!-- / message -->The part that set up the last 3 episodes only had a fraction of the screen time as the Jimmy / Chimmy stuff, which was the problem IMO. I usually like Chloe, but at this point the episode should be all about Clark and Lex, not Chimmy playing spy and their boring relationship angst. I hated Clana the first time around, I don't need the reheated version stinking the place up after a great episode like Descent and what could potentially be a great episode like Apocalypse.

[Lauren_17]

I liked it. The dance scene was fun to watch.

[AlwaysRight]

and Pete went away when it was over.

but this show had a better use for Stride Gum(on the table during the dance scene)

[double L]

There is no way this is "Fierce" bad.

[open2freaks]

Dont you hate it when youre force to do something :lol: I thought it was a good episode because it set up the last 3 episodes, and just wasnt bad IMO.


Usually I enjoy it when I am force to do something, but watching tonight’s episode just did not do it for me!:)

[Ardiem3]

Usually I enjoy it when I am force to do something, but watching tonight’s episode just did not do it for me!:)

To each his own...

[LexLuv180]

Except for the Lex scenes, which were great, and the one Clark scene at the beginning, and Clark in the fortress, this episode was just horrible. James bond moves anyone??

[margroks]

I would still give Promise worst ep ever rating because it portrayed CLark as a philandering jerk trying to convince a pregnant woman to cheat on/leave the father of her child at the altar to run away with him. It doesn't get any less heroic than that. But this ep comes close because Clark spent the night with catatonic Lana moping instead of actually doing something. He KNOWs Lex could gain control over him and he should be working on that yet when CHloe reminds him of that he says he doesn't care. It's all about Lana and screw the world.

We were cheated in many ways tonight. I don't like JO much since he's been a womanizing ass and really, it's not that interesting to have an ep so JO centric and this was totally unbelievable anyway. But the worst thing was hearing CLark moaning about Lana and willing to ignore any horror that might befall him be it controlled by Lex or Brainiac being up to whatever but he doesn't care. Lana is more important than the entire world and every person on it.

Well, at least there was no EDLois but the ep still made no sense and was boring as could be because of all the JO. Dullsville and it's sickening that even when Lana is comatose they manage to make it ALL ABOUT HER. THis ep sucked.

[jimmyolsenblues]

there was no freak of the week in this episode, there was no superpowered human by kryptonite or meteor. so for me, i don't mind it, i hate fotw.

[Ardiem3]

This was in no shape or form, the worst of the series. To put this lower than "Thirst" and "Fierce" has to say something about the person in question...

[thehenry89]

this episode wasn't horrible, but it wasn't on par with the last two by any means.

next week looks promising.

[SuperFan85]

I usually like most episodes of Smallville, with the exception of episodes like Thirst and Subterannean, and even though I didn't think Hero was that great of an episode, it still tops tonights episode. Sleeper was definitely was the worst episode of the season. Without a doubt, a filler episode. Lex was in like two scenes. His only purpose in tonights episode was to just open the box in Zurich. I think it might have been a good idea, if he wasnt behind Gina's murder, to have one of his people investigating her murder, based souly on her voice message about discovering the identity of the Traveler. That could have been his storyline in this episode to make it a little more interesting. Clark was barely in this episode. I don't think he even used any powers whatsoever. The whole Chloe and Jimmy dancing scene went on for far too long, and it just felt like they were trying to kill time in the episode. The episode also felt poorly edited. It just didn't flow well. I had the same feeling after I watched Hero. Maybe it was the same Director or Writers, I dont know. And the moment, where Lex finally opens the box in Zurich, I think maybe could have been done a little better. It's been a moment we've been building towards for a few episodes now and was jsut handled in my opinion, jus very casually. I also didn't like how, Clark in last weeks episode had this whole attitude of going to stop Lex and a mission to get the keys away from him, and then tonight he has the exact attitude, where he's like, I don't care about Lex! Anyway, that's my rant for tonight. Most of this season has been great thus far, with the exception of Blue, Hero, and tonight IMO.

[roccanater]

I did not think it was that bad.

[BadToad]

Worst? Probably not. Bottom 10? Easily, IMO

[RepairmanBob]

This episode needed some Zor-El. Zor-El makes everything better.

This was in no shape or form, the worst of the series. To put this lower than "Thirst" and "Fierce" has to say something about the person in question...
<!-- / message -->Chloe in a catholic schoolgirl's uniform and Lana in leather > Jimmy Bond.

Worst? Probably not. Bottom 10? Easily, IMO
<!-- / message -->ITA. The complete and total hatchet job that was done on Clark, plus Jimmy Bond, make this by far the worst episode of the season. At least Fierce had a Clark that could walk and chew gum without screaming "Lana!" every 7 seconds.

[ChlarkMe]

I enjoyed it.

[elway]

:(

[Kevin24]

I loved this episode and hero.

[svtwamedfan05]

Now to be far this episode was better than "Hero", "Thirst", and "Wither" (episodes which I think are the worst of the series)

[msleggie]

Yeah, this episode wasn't the best. There were some moments that I liked, but the whole Jimmy james bond thing was a little too much for me.

[Kevin24]

I actually liked thirst, wither and hero. Sleeper was entertaining as hell. Jimmy roughing people up was awesome. Chloe breaking into the government satellites all the while throwing Jimmy and the agents off her trail (tho they found her anyway.)

The message from Kara saying she is on krypton! Figuring out why Jor-el froze Clark so he can outlive everyone! This wasn't as intense or as good as descent but I still loved it. Clark's foreshadowing at the end about him flying, you know he is gonna fly!!

[SteveS]

I thought Lucy and Aqua were worse, but a professional writer should be embarrassed about the quality of this episode.

[david13579]

it is too funny to be considered the worst

[Cyn]

If I had 4 thumbs they would all be down for this episode. It definitely ranks in the top 5-10 worst Smallville episodes ever. I love Jimmy, but not enough to enjoy this episode. I watched a show that I normally wouldn't watch just to get it's image out of my mind. GAH!

[curiosity]

Yes....even worse than Hero. At least in Hero we got to see SOMETHING! Pretty much absolutely NOTHING happened tonight other than Lex opening the box and getting the compass. And how exactly is this thing supposed to lead him to the fortress or control the traveler? Jimmy as James Bond? Dumb. I can take him recusing Chloe at the end, but the whole spy in the vent thing was really stupid. And Clark....really? Your ONLY living BLOOD relative has been kidnapped the an evil Kryptonian computer and taken god knows where and you're not even trying to find her? You're spending all your time with a Catatonic Lana which will do absolutely NOTHING to help her. And why didn't Chloe just use Olivers Satelite to find the wormhole? It would've been a lot less dangerous. Not to mention Lex halping Chloe and Jimmy with the feds...what was up with that? Unless he gets Jimmy to steal the key to the fortress for him in a later episode, what can Jimmy possibly offer a guy like Lex who apparantly can override government clearance to fly to Zurich and back to Metropolis in what seemed like maybe an hour or two and who can tell the feds to drop something and they just do. This episode really lived up to its name i tell ya. And this is coming from the guy that actually liked Fierce and most other filler episodes. If this was at the begining of the season and not part of this big mythology arc i may have a different opinion but it was definately not the proper place for a dumb episode like this.

I agree it was bad, and now the next episode is just a "what if" filler also. At least it might be better than this one.

[Kal EL2380]

Typical filler episode.

[Ares]

Yes really bad..

[Cyn]

The episode titled "Sleeper" actually fit tonights episode. The writers probably meant for it to be a James Bondish/Sleeper Cell terrorist type episode, but it turned out to just be just plain old boring so Sleeper was appropriate. I really hope next week's episode isn't bore my ass off because I've seen that episode multiple times.

[jordeant1200]

it wasnt good but it wasn't worst epi ever either, thats crazy talk when there r epis like ageless and thirst.

[smallvilleusedtobegood]

I think "Thirst" (i.e. Vampire Lana and the lesbian sorority sisters) wins worst episode ever.

[Brizzle]

The episode title was how I felt about the episode. It was a sleeper.

[STFanatic]

Over the last couple of days I have re-watched seasons 4-6, for some reason I actually enjoyed "Thirst" this time.
Maybe I was nostalgic for the simpler stories, but I would rate "Sleeper" below "Thirst" right now.
I need to watch it again, then I may feel different about it.

There were several scenes in this episode I did enjoy.
Mostly the dance scene.

[smallvilleusedtobegood]

The dance scene was awesome, as was Jimmy as James Bond, but everything else was lame. I'm so tired of the everyone can hack into government computers thing and the government security sucks (that is NOT the way they would go about investigating something, duh!) and then the gratuitous torture scene. Everything is so frickin' improbable.

[Titan27]

Mike; I agree with you 100%. All the 007 scenes with Jimmy...what the hell. How can a photographer do that??? AND with Clark spending the whole night with Lana!!!! wow, great use of time, and continually stiff -arming Chloe to hack into govt. computers and put her a$$ on the line while Clark has been spending time with Lana exhausting all options for finding Brainiac & Kara (at the same time); and apparently used Chloe now as a last resort. Now we know why Pete left Smallville. Chloe is the one under investigation by the feds; putting her relationship with Jimmy in trouble. AND I've never understood how on certain episodes Clark will talk about Jor-El in a good light (last week talking about his dead father figures/after Kara vanished & Zor-El told Clark about his father from "Blue") and then yelling at his father for Kara, believing he sent her away with Brainiac-that it was Jor-El's fault. Well at least we know we have 1 more season/1 more year to turn Clark into someone other than the BDA.

[ginnyfan]

Ha! This is not even CLOSE to being the worst episode of Smallville ever. Not even close. Subterranean? Hero? Ageless? The one where the guy touches people and turns them to dust... *shakes head* LOL!

[Balrog1978]

I feel like throwing up thinking about this trash!!

I think SV has a huge list of terrible episodes

Subterranean, Hero, Noir, Fierce, Thirst, Promise, The witches arc and now sleeper.

The worst smallville episode is probably Subterranean, closely followed by Sleeper and Fierce and Hero as runners up!! Third place would go for most of the FOTW trash that have churned up!!!

[jalenrose]

Ya I'm Canadian and actually don't even get to see it till after the US does. I don't get to see it till sunday.

We use to have A-Channel here but for some reason, they replaced it with City TV!

I get to see it on Wednesday and the episode was ass

[sari_chem]

While watching this episode, I was bored out of my mind. Last week's episode was so amazing...and I was hoping that this episode would keep the momentum going.

But no...it was the longest hour ever.

And I didn't enjoy the dance scene, either. AM really didn't look comfortable doing it at all...the dance had no flow to it.

[clana4everfan2]

I definitely thought Sleeper was far worse than Hero and worse episode so far this season. I liked seeing OneRepublic in Hero.