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Ardiem3
04-23-2008, 07:45 PM
Season 1: "Reaper" - After a Kryptonite-related incident gives a young man the ability to kill via mere touch, he sets out to use his newfound power on people who are gravely ill.
Season 2: "Rosetta" - Determined to find out where he came from, Clark travels to New York to meet Dr. Virgil Swann (Christopher Reeve), a brilliant scientist who possesses a message for Clark from his home planet.
Season 3: "Legacy" - Lionel plunges deeper into his obsessive quest, Jonathan receives unsettling messages from Jor-El, and the man who can help Clark understand the events swirling around him is billionaire scientist Virgil Swann.
Season 4: "Onyx" - Lex vs. Lex! A lab explosion seperates Lex into his normal and evil personages.
Season 5: "Void" - Clark and Lex are each subjected to a substance that causes near-death experiences... and brings unexpected insights to each about he men they will become.
Season 6: "Combat" - Clark seeks out a secret internet fight club in order to battle its champion - a Phantom Zone escapee called Titan.
Season 7: "Sleeper" - Clark desperately searches for Brainiac, the only one who can reverse Lana's condition; Chloe, in her search for large power surges, breaks into several government computers; Jimmy gets caught between Lex and the Department of Security.

ClarkyBoy14
04-23-2008, 09:38 PM
"Rosetta" and "Onyx" were great, and "Legacy" and "Combat" were decent, with "Reaper" and "Void" being "eh." I'm not sure where "Sleeper" will fall.

yosemiteangel
04-24-2008, 09:50 AM
I haven't seen tonight's episode yet, but I love Rosetta. The passing of the torch, the Superman movie theme in the background. *sigh*

Twitch
04-24-2008, 09:52 AM
Tough choice, I really enjoyed "Rosetta", "Onyx" and "Combat."

Lionel The Great
04-24-2008, 10:12 AM
Legacy was so special...

Dr. Swann and Lionel's agreement was an unknown...

And another thing, the Octagonal Key...

There were a lot of mystery in the atmosphere of the episode.

Not even Onyx couldn't reach it.

My vote goes to Legacy.

jimmyolsenblues
04-24-2008, 11:45 AM
not a fair fight , nobody beats Christopher Reeve episodes...nobody

Mar-El
04-24-2008, 11:45 AM
Wow, some pretty amazing 17th episodes there...

I'm torn between Rosetta, Onyx, Legacy and Combat...I want to go with Combat for the fight scene, but Rosetta wins me over for the Superman theme playing in the background when Clark visits Swann.

stenochick
04-24-2008, 12:03 PM
Like I just posted on another thread, the Chris Reeves scenes in Rosetta and Legacy, especially Rosetta are so epic and iconic. They are my favorite episodes of Smallville (along with the Pilot) ever.

1. Rosetta
2. Legacy

Since the poll included my favorite episodes ever, I went ahead and voted before seeing Sleeper

LoveHurts38
04-24-2008, 12:20 PM
Void and Combat for me.

Ilovebeinglost
04-24-2008, 12:24 PM
Sleeper was no competition at all, Rosetta and legacy have to be the best

tejdog1
04-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Nothing...NOTHING beats Onyx. Ever.

Krypton935
04-24-2008, 01:11 PM
Rosetta Legacy and Onyx were amazingly awesome and Combat was even better! I can't wait to see how this one goes so I'll hold my vote until later.

Blazel
04-24-2008, 02:34 PM
"Rosetta" and "Onyx" were great, and "Legacy" and "Combat" were decent, with "Reaper" and "Void" being "eh." I'm not sure where "Sleeper" will fall.

sleeper will just fall. fall flat, flatter than lionel's body on the LC steps. eww..

luthorian
04-24-2008, 02:38 PM
Nothing...NOTHING beats Onyx. Ever.

Agreed.

A_Chloe.S._Fan
04-24-2008, 02:55 PM
i luv onyx. that has 2 b the only 17th ep that i like (although i haven't see sleeper yet). the rest r either ok or really bad

hemmy
04-24-2008, 06:52 PM
Ok, since Sleeper is 90% over I can say it is now where near the top

I would put it fourth after Oynx, Rosetta, and Legacy

Ardiem3
04-24-2008, 07:03 PM
Although not the best 17th episode, its not as bad as many had predicted, I liked it.

theotherJane
04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
ick...definitely not Sleeper. I'm gonna go with Rosetta.

AlwaysRight
04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
The episode was somewhat enjoyable but pointless at the same time.

In terms of smallville supposed to be about Clark's journey i give it a 2 in terms of watchablitity as a completely different thing fromt he smallville universe i give it a 6

clana4everfan2
04-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Rosetta and Legacy were great. Void was ok too.

DreadShamus
04-24-2008, 07:09 PM
I voted Onyx, but most of those were great episodes.

lovingtom
04-24-2008, 07:11 PM
don't like "Combat" and "Void" the other was good..

svtwamedfan05
04-24-2008, 08:08 PM
Definitely COMBAT! Followed by Onyx

TECHWON
04-24-2008, 08:13 PM
ahhhhh "Combat" was good but the episode "Gemini" was better and even "Travler" and "Bizzaro" and even the only episode he actually flew in "Crusade" which season 4 was good but dragged on and somewhat this season is doing but with a nice pace of story episodes instead of filler so overall i'm voting for "Gemini"

Zungas
04-24-2008, 08:14 PM
Rosetta or Void.

kal-el_Girl
04-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Onyx is an excellent eppy BUT of course rosetta was awesome w/ the great late Mr. Cristopher Reeves and nothing will change that.!!

CallMeClark
04-24-2008, 08:22 PM
I agree. Legacy was great. :)

BIGBLUE10789
04-24-2008, 08:31 PM
ahhhhh "Combat" was good but the episode "Gemini" was better and even "Travler" and "Bizzaro" and even the only episode he actually flew in "Crusade" which season 4 was good but dragged on and somewhat this season is doing but with a nice pace of story episodes instead of filler so overall i'm voting for "Gemini"

how did u vote for gemini when its not the 17th ep. of the season:lol: I got to go with onyx followed by rosseta and combat. Each had there strong points like clark finally beating the crap out of someone and lex vs lex was just awesome!

Cyn
04-24-2008, 08:44 PM
Sleeper shouldn't even be on this list. It should be on the list with the Vampire episode as one of the worst episodes ever. Lex was Lex good and Jimmy was adorable, but everything else just SUCKED!!!

6-Super-Man -5
04-24-2008, 08:50 PM
"Rosetta" and "Onyx" are the best to me, but if I had to pick one, my ultimate choice would be "Onyx"

smallvillelogan
04-24-2008, 08:51 PM
No doubt in my mind, 'Rosetta' was far and away the best 17th episode. It catapulted the rest of the entire series.

1) Rosetta- one of my 5 or 10 favorite ever.
2) Onyx- I think this marks the boiling point for Lex's conflict, and it was demonstrated through a literal splitting-of-the-personalities.
3) Legacy- great episode.
4) Void- liked Jonathan's conversation with Clark. That was really good.
5) Reaper
6) Sleeper
7) Combat- Loathed it.

Chloe_is_my_Hero
04-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Gotta go with Rosetta on that one. I mean, Christopher Reeve people!!!! Need I say more?

rissaroo689
04-24-2008, 10:21 PM
rosetta. then onyx. then combat.

jordeant1200
04-24-2008, 10:27 PM
onyx combat rosetta legacy sleeper void reaper

Lexgirl33
04-24-2008, 11:20 PM
Rosestta, Onyx and Legacy by far.

ginnyfan
04-24-2008, 11:44 PM
I voted for Onyx.

Drew
04-25-2008, 12:28 AM
Onyx is one of my favorite episodes. Sleeper might have been the worst 17th episode yet.

Vergon6
04-25-2008, 12:35 AM
I voted for "Onyx", "Legacy" and "Rosetta" were excellent as well. "Sleeper" worse 17th episode? I think not. "Void" was worse than "Sleeper". "Sleeper" was entertaining for what it was.

dru-zod2501
04-25-2008, 12:53 AM
Sleeper, over Rosetta and Legacy? Pshhaww never!

amberdawn
04-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Rosetta or Onyx. Can't choose.

Clark/Lois-fan
04-25-2008, 03:01 AM
Even though i haven't seen Sleeper yet, three of my favorite episodes is listed, so I say

Rosetta
Legacy
Combat

TnTSCS
04-25-2008, 05:58 AM
IMHO, absolutely worst episode ever... and I know I'm not alone... haven't had time to read threads yet (have to go to work) but I know I'm not alone in this... just had to post it that's how horrible I thought it was

kryptonite82
04-25-2008, 09:25 AM
I love Combat!...Lois in a tight red leather outfit and Clark kickin Kane's ass...Perfect!

Luv4PhilCollins729
04-25-2008, 11:41 AM
My favorites would have to be Rosetta and Legacy for Christopher Reeve and Onyx ‘cause MR was just awesome.

I agree with anyone who says this was the worst episode ever. The only scenes that were good were the ones with TW. He wasn’t in it much ‘cause he was probably getting ready for directing next week’s eppy. Jimmy doing all the stuff that he did was so, so stupid. Hope we never see another one like this again, but I’m pretty sure we will. :(

smallvillelogan
04-25-2008, 12:05 PM
Not a good episode, but I would put it over episodes like Fierce, Wither, Combat, Static, Subterranean, Thirst, Spell, Rush, Devoted, and Nicodemus and maybe Hyptonic in my book

JorEl23
04-25-2008, 12:20 PM
From best to worst, although the top three were all great and equally close in my mind:

Season 3: Legacy
Season 4: Onyx
Season 2: Rosetta
Season 6: Combat
Season 7: Sleeper
Season 1: Reaper
Season 5: Void

Joelito
04-25-2008, 02:16 PM
Rosetta, when the show had a "head" and "feet".

Clarkgirl8
04-25-2008, 03:26 PM
^^ Cuando el show tenia pies y cabeza, I've never heard that one in english...

I liked Rosetta and Onyx...

oberyn
04-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Well, I liked "Sleeper" more than I liked "Reaper". Not that that's saying much.

queenelizabeth
04-25-2008, 03:45 PM
hmm Rosetta was cool. Ughh I don't know why I voted for Void...guess I got it confused with something else.

Jaderoyale
04-26-2008, 04:58 AM
Rosetta.

RJLCyberPunk
04-26-2008, 08:31 AM
Not a chance even remotely of this plothole ridden sad excuse of a James Bond ripoff episode that should have in fact been named Jimmy007 ever to be considered the best episode of the season. I'd say so far Descent still earns the highest marks so far...

hansioux
04-26-2008, 08:38 AM
i guess i am the only one who loved reaper. I thought it was the most thought provoking episode in the bunch. The antagonist actually was trying to do good, even though it might have seen bad. The other episodes are just so brainless. I mean Rosetta moved story along and had cool guest star but that's about it. While Legacy, Onyx, Void have so so plot and some body should shoot me after Combat and Sleeper.

Welling_is_pretty
04-27-2008, 12:23 PM
not a fair fight , nobody beats Christopher Reeve episodes...nobody
agreed!

xrayvision
04-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Rosetta, no question about it. Legacy and Onyx were also great. I also liked Reaper. Combat was pretty good. Void wasn't that bad. Sleeper was definitely a sleeper and the worst 17th episode of all.

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i guess i am the only one who loved reaper. I thought it was the most thought provoking episode in the bunch. The antagonist actually was trying to do good, even though it might have seen bad. The other episodes are just so brainless. I mean Rosetta moved story along and had cool guest star but that's about it. While Legacy, Onyx, Void have so so plot and some body should shoot me after Combat and Sleeper.

I also like Reaper, but don't think it was the best one. I do think it was a great episode and the acting/drama was superb. I liked Tyler as a character and felt bad for his situation even though I don't agree with what he did. I liked all 17th episodes but Sleeper.

Sweetie
04-28-2008, 07:11 AM
Onyx is the best.

RepairmanBob
04-28-2008, 07:50 AM
Rosetta may be one of the best episodes of the entire series - definitely top 10 IMO. It easily crushes any of the other choices here.

Hopefulsuicide
04-28-2008, 06:34 PM
Rosetta and Legacy where great in terms of advancing storylines and mythos stuff, but i voted Onyx because it's just more entertaining to me

Any of the episodes stated are better than Sleeper...

the fact it got 11 votes to me totally cements my opinion that some people just vote for the newest episode

ginnyfan
04-28-2008, 08:58 PM
Sleeper was better than Reaper. IMO. Hey that rhymes.

alejandrita439
12-10-2008, 01:17 PM
agree with you...

pizzahead2490
12-10-2008, 01:19 PM
onyx

EarlTheEradicator
05-21-2009, 04:55 PM
I just watch this episode today and i loved it but i thought of it more as a spoof episode i laughed the whole ep

9-SOSIHTWB
08-17-2009, 11:54 AM
I loved Onyx, Void and Combat, but Combat was better!
I didn't like Sleeper, there was too much Jimmy and not enough Clark, it was like James Bond on Cheese!!

Nimkong
03-04-2010, 07:50 PM
Its between onyx and combat

Kneel before Zod
03-04-2010, 07:53 PM
Sleeper is in my opinion, one of the worst episodes ever.