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shy175223
04-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Do not post until after the airing of this episode.












For Canadian viewers if you must just rate the episode but try not to spoil too much for those whom have not seen it yet. Thank You.

superhippie2000
04-23-2008, 04:51 PM
cant wait till it airs. hope its as good as last weeks.

shy175223
04-23-2008, 04:53 PM
it's been good so far...

superhippie2000
04-23-2008, 05:19 PM
ya it seems like since the strike they are making the episodes more connected and less fillerish which is good. now that i say that this will be a filler lol. god hope not lol. im pretty sure ill be giving this a 10 too.

shy175223
04-23-2008, 05:23 PM
hopefully this will be just as good even it's a filler episode...

ClarkyBoy14
04-23-2008, 09:34 PM
cant wait till it airs. hope its as good as last weeks.

I hope so too, but I kinda doubt it. I hope it's at least decent. And I can't wait to see the promo for next week's episode. :D

Thrill_Seeker
04-23-2008, 10:49 PM
ive seen it and it was pretty good, but smallville is usually alot better,
gave it an 8.
there were some REALLY good parts but the episode was a little bit of just a filler episode, with not much meaning.

JimmyPageT3X
04-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Seen it cuz well i live in canada and worst episode of smallville ever [Mod Edit] it sucked so bad 1/10

Thrill_Seeker
04-24-2008, 06:35 PM
okay I know this episode wasnt the best ever, but your being completely silly if you even think about rating it a 1.
no episodes are that bad,
It wasnt that bad, sure it was a filler, but i still enjoyed it, and actually NO i dont think this was worse than hero.

KEakaCK
04-24-2008, 06:37 PM
This whole James Bond theme in this episode is rediculous...

Lostfan588
04-24-2008, 06:55 PM
Is it possible to give it a ZERO?!!!

clana4everfan2
04-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Gave it a 5.. Sleeper because it was starting to make me fall asleep. haha sorry. And there was less Clark which made me unhappy.

Jaded Wolf
04-24-2008, 07:03 PM
6/10. I just don't understand how this episode could be made. In the last episode Clark tells Chloe he will stop Lex but then a week later he doesn't care about Lex because Lana is more important?! C'mon man! Make up your mind!

Jimmy Olsen is approached by a federal agent to spy on Chloe and intercept her breach of the federal network. From out of nowhere Jimmy becomes this "James Bond"-type fully capable of infiltration, spy gadget use, and tango?!?! What made me really just go "ugh" at this whole concept was after Jimmy copied the wrong files the agent said, "Now we'll handle this my way." Why didn't she just do that before? The current US government is so paranoid right now about terrorists that they are not going to waste their time using someone else to stop possible terrorists. The feds will come down hard right away with no hesitation. The interrogation scene was ridiculous.

The only good thing about this episode was the last scene between Chloe and Clark. I should have rated this episode lower but I am being too nice. It should be around 3/10.

reobeem
04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
I must in some kind of dream because these episodes are great. I loved the whole James Bond parody with Jimmy and Chloe. As for Lex things indeed have gotton worse. I'm hurt to say but Clark needs to accept his destiny if he wants to truely save everyone. The preview looked great to. It's a 9/10 this week.

DreadShamus
04-24-2008, 07:05 PM
I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!!! It was so bad, but there were about 3 minutes of really great! So much horrible filler to put in that Jimmy owes Lex and explain why the gov has never noticed Chloe's actions. I thought being a reporter explained why she was in weird places. BLAH!

prairiefire
04-24-2008, 07:08 PM
I agree with Shamus and Wolf.

WickedJenn
04-24-2008, 07:11 PM
Best things in this episode were:

--The Jason Bourne/James Bond persona adopted by Jimmy Olsen.
--Lex finding the Veritas compass, and then subsequently getting almost strangled by...Edward Teague or assistant to him?
--The "Apocalypse" trailer Ooh Clark Kent in a suit and glasses!.
--The teeny sample of Superman music at the end.

griffolyon12
04-24-2008, 07:12 PM
I actually genuinely liked the episode, yes, I did feel that much of the Jimmy and Chloe subplot was cheesy, but it was at least highly entertaining and funny, it was very clear that they were trying to spoof James Bond a bit. As well the episode presented some new tidbits of information that moved the season's story along, so overall I felt it was a great episode, a lot better than the average filler. I gave it a 10.

P.S. The look at next week got me really excited, I can't wait.

ClarkyBoy14
04-24-2008, 07:14 PM
It was okay. I gave it a 7/10.

I didn't like how Clark was acting in that first scene with Chloe. He was being really stupid. It required a lot of suspension of disbelief that the government would actually call on Jimmy to help, it seemed choppy in places, and Jimmy kissing Chloe at the end was the easy way out.

However, it had a lot of fun moments like the dance, it moved the plots along nicely, and had a good set up for next week. It was also cool how they mentioned Ollie was storing stuff at Isis.

A_Chloe.S._Fan
04-24-2008, 07:15 PM
i had mixed feelings about this ep. i thought jimmy trying to make breakfast was hysterical, along with chimmy dance scene, and the james bond scenes. i hate how they're making chloe such a liar though. i also hate clark's double personality. in descent, he wanted to find the keys, but now he doesn't care about lex?! he is so peculiar.

Ladyalchemy
04-24-2008, 07:15 PM
Sleeper = bad LSD trip.
The dance was both good and bad.
Clark whining over Lana instead of saving himself and everyone, including Lana ticked me off.
Jimmy double 0 zero irritating.
Chloe busted up then almost all healed up in the next clip, odd.
Chloe being ok with her life long dream of being a reporter dashed and crushed into pieces and the nonchalance with which she refers to it, ridiculous.
The whole eppy I wondered which writer fell into a vat of surreal pie.
I wished so badly this would be one of the characters horrendous dreams but no such luck.

I know there will be some of you that think my thoughts are harsh but they are just my opinion. I know they don't exist but I have a lot of time invested in these characters and this show. It's an escape from real life but alas if it keeps deteriorating I'll do something drastic! heh I'll just stop watching.

I hope someone agrees just a tiny bit with me tho.
Here endith the rant.

BadToad
04-24-2008, 07:17 PM
I disliked it intensely, and outside of the last 8 minutes or so, I'm going to pretend it didn't exist.

1/10

Darth Pipes
04-24-2008, 07:21 PM
Clark showed how much of a dumb bastard he was tonight. He's allowing Lex to acquire something that will put him under Lex's control. He's allowing an evil maniac to acquire the ultimate weapon and what is Clark doing? Spending the night with Lana. Then he gets mad at Chloe and goes back to using her for his own purposes and to do his own dirty work. What a moron. He deserves anything bad that happens to him from this point on.

Liked the end, particularly with Lex and Jimmy, and I think this upcoming episode/storyline is going to be a really good one.

LexLuv180
04-24-2008, 07:22 PM
This episode was just terrible. My God.

spideyfan
04-24-2008, 07:28 PM
5/10...nothing but the coordinates to the FoS and the small advancement with Swanns journal that we need to speak of...

monel49
04-24-2008, 07:36 PM
Watching the episode, I had a feeling it was going to be panned by most folks, but wait just a sec. Last week's ep was epic--just can't have those every week. Judged on its own, this one was not bad. Gave it an 8. It was a filler episode, a taking of a breath before the final sprint to the finish of the season. Good spoof on Bond, good parts with Jimmy and Chloe, and the Clark and Chloe added with the Lex scenes moved the basic theme of this season along. Not bad.

kavalier
04-24-2008, 07:39 PM
Oh my gosh...are people seriously gonna sit here and bash this episode? Ok, it was a filler episode....all tv shows have 'em. We still got some continuity and major plot developments.

And yes, it wasnt a Clark-centric episode. I think thats great! I always find it refreshing when the writers are brave enough to let some of the other stellar characters carry the plot.

In the old George Reeves show, there were whole episodes dedicated to Jimmy Olsen...where George Reeves was barely even involved. I think this episode, like last season's Noir, carries on that tradition, and I am personally a fan of the idea. It shows that there are other things going on besides Clark's drama.

The episode was very well written IMO. I personally think that Caroline Dries always does a fine job. She had some GREAT one liners in there for Chloe particularly, like the one about Clark's greatest superpower being that look he gives, and the shipping costs that superheroes must accrue. She weaved together a very nice storyline for Chloe and Jimmy that really showed how busy Clark must keep Chloe all the time and the strain that must cause, and showed us some more aspects to her relationship to Olsen, while still managing to carry the plot forward in big ways (Lex finding the box, Clark getting called back to the past, etc.)

If the episode was weak in any area it was directorial execution. There were some underexecuted scenes like the final scene with Vanessa the spy. And she wasnt a good actress I might add...was a bit disappointed there. But the dancing was FUN (dont compare it to Dancing with the Stars folks, they probably had a few hours to learn that routine), I liked the overall spy tone, and I thought it was even a bit more humourous than usual.

Good job Smallville and Caroline Dries is what I have to say!!!

Please dont bash every episode that wants to be a bit more light and filler-like. Some of us like those eps!

puppiesnkittens
04-24-2008, 07:40 PM
After the great episode last week, this week's was kind of a joke. I like Chloe & Jimmy but seriously this ep was missing important elements - namely Clark. And when he was there he was completely stupid, only freaking thinking of Lana when everything is so f@@@ed up!! Maybe if he visits Krypton he will return as the real Clark Kent. :eek: The end of the episode picked up, and I am glad Chloe & Jimmy are back together. Cute couple. :) But, the best thing was the trailer for Apocalypse. It's gonna be great!! Anyway, every season needs it's duds, tonight hopefully will be the last for Season 7.

loistickyfingerz
04-24-2008, 07:41 PM
I thought it was decent filler, though Clark mopeing over Lana wasn't a good way to start it out.

I laughed a lot at the James Bond stuff with Jimmy. Aaron does such a good job of balancing Jimmy's kooky-ness with keeping it real. That's pretty cool in my book.

At least they made a point to try and connect it to past and future epis. Props for that.

Overall I think the lack of Lana made it bareable in my book for filler.

shy175223
04-24-2008, 07:55 PM
Oh my gosh...are people seriously gonna sit here and bash this episode? Ok, it was a filler episode....all tv shows have 'em. We still got some continuity and major plot developments.

And yes, it wasnt a Clark-centric episode. I think thats great! I always find it refreshing when the writers are brave enough to let some of the other stellar characters carry the plot.

In the old George Reeves show, there were whole episodes dedicated to Jimmy Olsen...where George Reeves was barely even involved. I think this episode, like last season's Noir, carries on that tradition, and I am personally a fan of the idea. It shows that there are other things going on besides Clark's drama.

The episode was very well written IMO. I personally think that Caroline Dries always does a fine job. She had some GREAT one liners in there for Chloe particularly, like the one about Clark's greatest superpower being that look he gives, and the shipping costs that superheroes must accrue. She weaved together a very nice storyline for Chloe and Jimmy that really showed how busy Clark must keep Chloe all the time and the strain that must cause, and showed us some more aspects to her relationship to Olsen, while still managing to carry the plot forward in big ways (Lex finding the box, Clark getting called back to the past, etc.)

If the episode was weak in any area it was directorial execution. There were some underexecuted scenes like the final scene with Vanessa the spy. And she wasnt a good actress I might add...was a bit disappointed there. But the dancing was FUN (dont compare it to Dancing with the Stars folks, they probably had a few hours to learn that routine), I liked the overall spy tone, and I thought it was even a bit more humourous than usual.

Good job Smallville and Caroline Dries is what I have to say!!!

Please dont bash every episode that wants to be a bit more light and filler-like. Some of us like those eps!

hey if ppl what to bash this episode, it's their right, you know. They do have a right to their opinions. you can't fault them for that..

Khyla
04-24-2008, 08:02 PM
Oh my gosh...are people seriously gonna sit here and bash this episode? Ok, it was a filler episode....all tv shows have 'em. We still got some continuity and major plot developments.

And yes, it wasnt a Clark-centric episode. I think thats great! I always find it refreshing when the writers are brave enough to let some of the other stellar characters carry the plot.

In the old George Reeves show, there were whole episodes dedicated to Jimmy Olsen...where George Reeves was barely even involved. I think this episode, like last season's Noir, carries on that tradition, and I am personally a fan of the idea. It shows that there are other things going on besides Clark's drama.

The episode was very well written IMO. I personally think that Caroline Dries always does a fine job. She had some GREAT one liners in there for Chloe particularly, like the one about Clark's greatest superpower being that look he gives, and the shipping costs that superheroes must accrue. She weaved together a very nice storyline for Chloe and Jimmy that really showed how busy Clark must keep Chloe all the time and the strain that must cause, and showed us some more aspects to her relationship to Olsen, while still managing to carry the plot forward in big ways (Lex finding the box, Clark getting called back to the past, etc.)

If the episode was weak in any area it was directorial execution. There were some underexecuted scenes like the final scene with Vanessa the spy. And she wasnt a good actress I might add...was a bit disappointed there. But the dancing was FUN (dont compare it to Dancing with the Stars folks, they probably had a few hours to learn that routine), I liked the overall spy tone, and I thought it was even a bit more humourous than usual.

Good job Smallville and Caroline Dries is what I have to say!!!

Please dont bash every episode that wants to be a bit more light and filler-like. Some of us like those eps!

I agree with you! :)

i ENJOYED it and found it entertaining, I found myself chuckling through most of it. :)

the Chimmy dance WAS fun! :)

I didin't even find the Chimmy annoying, which is a first for me.

svtwamedfan05
04-24-2008, 08:06 PM
To be nice I'll give the episode a 7 for the smooth operator Jimmy.

xHerox
04-24-2008, 08:09 PM
Against better judgment, I'm giving this episode a '7'. I realize that this episode has numerous flaws, but there are certain qualities that just make me want to rate it higher than it really should be. First of all, while I know Smallville is ultimately about Clark's journey, it was nice to see a different character be in the spotlight for awhile. In addition, this episode compliments "Noir" from last season very well, because they are both about Jimmy living out some sort of fantasy. I think that "Noir" had the better concept, but I think that "Sleeper" was more interesting overall, despite the plot inconsistencies. Also, I am an unabashed Chloe and Jimmy fan, so while there were a couple of over-the-top moments involving the couple, I still liked them very much.

"Sleeper" didn't have a completely original plot, and had some cringe-worthy lines of dialogue; but above all else, the episode was fun, and that's why I rated it how I did.

Zungas
04-24-2008, 08:13 PM
The Chloe and Jimmy plotline was ludicrous even for Smallville standards.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 08:18 PM
I liked it , it was fun, funny and had a whole video game feel to it. Jimmy tazzing that guy when he stealthy came down the vent was classic and it had me cracking up. That agent roughing up Chloe was pretty intense too. I like how Chloe found out that Jimmy was spying on her so quickly hahaha.

I was pumped when Clark was ready to go to the Fortress of solitude. We also found out what Jor-el was doing when he made him into a Clark-scicle (He wanted him to outlive everyone he loved on earth.) The fortress of solitude scene was awesome too, I kept trying to make out what she was saying. Lex getting roughed up somewhat by that guy with the weird oh voice lol . Of course the foreshadowing of Clark learning to fly that pumped me up!!!! wooooooo

The only problem I had with it is that it had to little Clark but it was still a great fun episode in my mind.

CallMeClark
04-24-2008, 08:18 PM
Oh my...

Well, on a positive note, it wasn't the worst of the season, however, it lost the momentum we had been carrying since after "Fierce." It just wasn't all that good. I gave it a 7/10. I was really hoping for Smallville to keep it's amazing stride, but it just couldn't last. It was an okay episode, but Smallville fell back into their past B plot A plot problem again....

Oh well.

Cyn
04-24-2008, 08:19 PM
OMG, what an awful episode. It can only be considered good if you compare it to the Vampire episode. I did enjoy Jimmy, but I didn't like the plot. It was so freaking lame. Clark was a complete Pu$$eeeee as well. The only reason that I gave this a 2 instead of a 1 (the worst) was because of the last 30 seconds and the fact that I do like Jimmy. Can the writers leave with Millar/Gough? Cuz, for every good episode they've had about 3 bad ones...Or maybe more.

Someday, I will learn that if there is one good Smallville episode the next one will suck s**t. The previews for next week look awesome though. With my expectations crushed by tonights episode next week has no place to go but up...I hope.

CallMeClark
04-24-2008, 08:22 PM
And worst of all it had so many plot holes. Like huge ones.

quietone
04-24-2008, 08:24 PM
It wasn't good or bad. Just awkward. After Traveler, Veritas, and Descent I guess I was expecting more. The tension and suspense were amped up during those three episodes and tonight it felt like air had been let out of the balloon. That shouldn't happen when the season is coming to a close.

IMO the Veritas and Kara/Brainiac storylines should be front and center.

I love Clark but his dismissive attitude about Veritas, Brainiac, and Kara at the beginning of the episode seriously bugged.

There wasn't nearly enough Lex but I did love the reveal of the contents of the safe deposit box.

The Apocalypse promo looked awesome!

smallvillelogan
04-24-2008, 08:29 PM
Best things in this episode were:

--The Jason Bourne/James Bond persona adopted by Jimmy Olsen.
--Lex finding the Veritas compass, and then subsequently getting almost strangled by...Edward Teague or assistant to him?
--The "Apocalypse" trailer Ooh Clark Kent in a suit and glasses!.
--The teeny sample of Superman music at the end.

Yeah the CK suit and glasses was exciting! Can't wait for next week. Hopefully it makes up for this not-good episode.

There was a teeny sample of Superman music at the end?

Imzadia
04-24-2008, 08:30 PM
I actually genuinely liked the episode, yes, I did feel that much of the Jimmy and Chloe subplot was cheesy, but it was at least highly entertaining and funny, it was very clear that they were trying to spoof James Bond a bit. As well the episode presented some new tidbits of information that moved the season's story along, so overall I felt it was a great episode, a lot better than the average filler. I gave it a 10.

P.S. The look at next week got me really excited, I can't wait.

:cool:I agree with the way you felt, 'griffolyon12'. I find your comments to be very objective, considering we're devoted to watching this Fantasy-based, sci-fi series. I rated it a 7/10 because I thought it was FUN and slightly light-hearted for a change. :rolleyes:I know it was a Jimmy-centric episode, but I'm glad he got some much needed attention. For a very short time, I thought Jimmy was having another 'dream sequence' when I saw him in the tux and 'expertly' sleuthing around inside some air- conditioning ducts; then it started to come together for me.

I NEVER expect Smallville to have dead-on accuracy concerning governmental procedures in a near documentary style of storytelling. So, when they play around with the way things would actually go down, it's alright with me.

I was satisfied to learn 'something' about what probably happened when Kara and Brainiac flew into outer space and that black explosion happened. I knew at some point we were going to be given some information about what happened when that Satellite was bombarded with the energy they released in space. It was an episode that was still connected to the current story arc, IMO. It was like a little 'breather' before some real Crunchtime at season's end. It was more than a simple filler to me. I enjoyed it. :D

kavalier
04-24-2008, 08:31 PM
It wasn't good or bad. Just awkward. After Traveler, Veritas, and Descent I guess I was expecting more. The tension and suspense were amped up during those three episodes and tonight it felt like air had been let out of the balloon. That shouldn't happen when the season is coming to a close.

IMO the Veritas and Kara/Brainiac storylines should be front and center.

I love Clark but his dismissive attitude about Veritas, Brainiac, and Kara at the beginning of the episode seriously bugged.

There wasn't nearly enough Lex but I did love the reveal of the contents of the safe deposit box.

The Apocalypse promo looked awesome!

Yeah I can see how people might be frustrated that the tension let up so much after all the extreme tension thats built up over the past three episodes. But part of me think thats exactly what a show like this needs when you come off an episode like Descent. I mean if they had tried to sustain or top the tension of Descent, I think it would have been weird and made it look like they were trying too hard. I think it was a good moment for the tension to break and to have a lighter episode.

I really do like this tradition they are starting of a Jimmy-centric episode every season. I hope they keep it up for season 8!

smallvillelogan
04-24-2008, 08:44 PM
7. This was probably the second-worst episode of the season for me, after 'Fierce.'

I've decided that I strongly dislike Jimmy-centric episodes. Along with 'Noir,' TPTB are now 0/2 in the Jimmy-centric episodes department.

First of all, there are plenty of plot-holes. I thought Lex was red-flagged by the government? Yet the very next scene with him in it, there he is, opening the box.

Most importantly, Clark isn't looking for BrainIAC or trying to stop Lex from getting to Zurich? He's wasting all his time in the hospital sitting by Lana? There are three things going on in his life, and he decides to tend to BY FAR the LEAST IMPORTANT matter. Stupid pining over Lana. That was disgusting. I absolutely hated that.

I can see why the government would believe Chloe to be a terrorist with evil plans, but the storyline was poorly executed. No more episodes mostly starring Aaron Ashmore! Speaking of 13-episode actors in the show with an episode starring them, I would much rather have a Lois-centric episode.

Jimmy as James Bond was only ever-so-slightly cool, because of a couple cool gadgets. But nothing worth dedicating an episode about.

The only thing that saved this was the more-important subplot involving Clark's hearing Kara's transmission from the Fortress and message from the diary from the past. The temporary sub-plot was no good.

6-Super-Man -5
04-24-2008, 09:04 PM
The number six is what I chose.

Chloe_is_my_Hero
04-24-2008, 09:16 PM
It was ok considering that Clark was only in like, two scenes. I know it is because Tom was preping to direct, but a Clark lacking SV episode is always a bit of a disapointment. The one other thing that struck me the most was the random tango scene. Where the heck did that come from??? The whole scene was all over the place. And since when is Jimmy all techno savy?

LuckyLois
04-24-2008, 09:30 PM
Last week was so good that this seemed just a waste. Why go to so much expense to give a so so episode? I love the show and last week we were really getting somewhere. Espcially after the writers strike, I want all quality shows like Desent. Clark needs to follow through. Last week we saw him go forward, this week it was like the writers had a mind swipe! I'm really looking forward to next week Tom always directs a good show!

SnowBird
04-24-2008, 09:39 PM
It gets an 8 from me...I have been wanting an episode to lighten things up a bit and this was it. It was fun in places plus gave us hints about what was going to happen in future episodes...As far as Clark being concerned about Lana, good for him. He is showing attention to the woman he loves who is suffering which is a quality needed to be a decent and good man. Even with personal problems he hasn't forgotten that he is needed by others...Clark really has a lot on his plate. Find Brainiac so Lana can be saved. Save Tara. Save himself. Save the world from Lex. Smallville is building to a fantastic cliff hanger.

Darth Pipes
04-24-2008, 09:39 PM
It's amazing how much of a supporting character Clark has become on his own show.

Smallvilledabest
04-24-2008, 09:51 PM
I gave it a 8. It was a fun episode.

Cyn
04-24-2008, 09:54 PM
It's amazing how much of a supporting character Clark has become on his own show.

I think has been fits much more than has become. Lana, Chloe and the FoTW have always come before Clark. It seems that Clark always comes in third in whatever episode is aired. This pisses me off because I am watching the show for Clark Kent/Superman not Lana Lame or Chloe.

Bosrudorfer
04-24-2008, 10:02 PM
Meh boring episode, 3

robofan
04-24-2008, 10:03 PM
I liked the episode and I gave it a 9.

This episode might warrant a Clark poll and I would give him a 2. He seems to be losing control. Also, if he is putting Chloe in any kind of danger (physical, legal, ...), then he should give her better protection. Maybe he is saving his good stuff for the one he directs.

Clark issues aside, it was still a fun episode.

rissaroo689
04-24-2008, 10:10 PM
omg. what were the writers thinking with this one?

Autumn
04-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I gave the episode a 3. Here's what I liked:

1) The writers actually let Chloe dress up for once. They hardly ever let her do the dressing up at the clubs.

2) Allison Mack can dance. It's nice they let her do something a little different.

3) The mention of Oliver and that Chloe's working for him. Still, I don't get it. Is she a part of the league or not?

4) The idea of time travel. Although, they will probably turn it into crap.

5) The mention of Virgil Swann. But did his journals have to relate to Lana?

Now, for the inevitable. This is what I hated!

1) CHIMMY.
2) CHIMMY
3) Did I say CHIMMY? I almost got out my barf bag. They have no chemistry. I mean do the writers actually think anyone likes them together?

4) Jimmy Olsen as James Bond. I mean, come on! I was laughing, and not in a good way. Clark would have been better. But Lex, would have been hot! Now he would be a sexy bond. Why can't they make Lex more of the suave villain now? (since he's supposedly all the way evil now). I mean he quotes poetry, knows history, he's rich. Let's make him an evil Bruce Wayne. And can you imagine Allison Mack and Michael Rosenbaum doing the tango? Oh, so much better! As they're both trying to get information out of each other. It would be like he hates Chloe, he's evil, but yet he's fascinated with her like Lionel always was. What they should have done was have Lex be red flagged, so he goes to the party and knowing that he's flagged because of something to do with Chloe, he dances with her to grill her for information. But NO!!!!!! I mean why? Jimmy? He's not suave!!! He's not Brad Pitt in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which is how they were trying to make it seem.

5) Clark becomes an even bigger idiot in each episode. He'd rather mope with Lana in a psychiatric ward instead of trying to get keys to protect the world? I mean he doesn't even care if he's controlled? What a moron!!!!!! And the way he uses Chloe? I hope she punches him.

6) All the inconsistencies. Lex is flagged one minute, in Zurich the next, etc...

7) Jimmy is now repeating the Chloe story line with Lionel from season 3. How much you wanna bet, at the end of the season, Jimmy will be in danger because he stands up to Lex, and Jimmy will fake his death in a fake explosion? Has this show any originality left in it?

8) Chloe's no longer the reporter????? Is this a way to light switch Lois into Chloe's job? Another reason for me to be angry with the direction of this show.

9) The continuing drop of Chloe and Clark as a romantic story line. They have chemistry and the writers just refuse to use it, because it's not their "destiny." I'm sick of all the anvils, and the lack of freedom I feel the characters have. They're all controlled by their annoying fates. This show would work better if the writers acted like they didn't know the end of the story.

10) The shots in this episode, as well as the writing almost felt arrogant. As if they think their show, and their Jimmy Olsen is so wonderful. It drives me crazy.

11) The music, especially in the last scene between Chloe and Jimmy, was horrid. It was melodramatic. I don't want to watch a soap, in particularly a Clana the sequel (Chimmy) show:

Jimmy (or Lana): I want the truth!
Chloe (or Clark): You can't handle the truth. But, that doesn't mean we can't make out!

12) Clana. Even when Lana's not there, she's there. Clana will never end. WHY?????

Well that about covers it! That touches the surface anyhow. I just haven't really liked 6th or 7th season, although last week's episode was actually decent. Too bad, Lionel's gone though. He's already missed!

jordeant1200
04-24-2008, 10:23 PM
7/10 decent but not as good as past few weeks. chloe and jimmy r cool but the clark stuff wasn't made importnt enuff

Who
04-24-2008, 10:32 PM
I give it a 9. Loved the Chloe/Jimmy spy stuff. I also like it was a Chloe episode. Loved the scene with Jimmy and Clark in the barn. Lex was great as always.

Insight
04-24-2008, 10:32 PM
The Jimmy episodes are great. I really liked Noir and tonights was just entertaining. I think shows should spend more time trying to be entertaining instead of trying to be edgy and exciting all the time.

BWOracle
04-24-2008, 10:33 PM
Not as bad as I feared after seeing the clips on YouTube and reading people's comments before seeing it myself. I a gave it a 7 (the only episode this season I gave a lower grade to was Hero).

It's interesting the distribution of the votes on this thread...it's all over the board compared to last week's top heavy rating.

Although Clark was wrong about ignoring Lex, I thought it was at least understandable. Here we have Clark with two arch nemesis. He has Lex with a vague but serious threat about finding a device that can control him. He has Brainiac who has harmed Lana (the woman he loves), kidnapped Kara, released Zod, has Clark's powers without his weakness, was destroyed once already and came back, and almost destroyed human civilization with a virus. Naturally, he's going to focus more of his attention to Brainiac and helping Lana.

Pluses included:

-The sudden appearance of a message from Kara in Swann's diary and the subsequent visit to the FOS.
-Kara being on Krypton in the past with a threat from Brainiac.
-James Bond references (although some of the devices were cool, others were kind of geeky).
-The dance...basically because Chloe looked amazing and the leg wrap around Jimmy made me jealous of AA. It went on a little long but I think that was to emphasize that Jimmy was trying to divert Chloe while the device copied her files.
-Lex's manipulation of Jimmy
-The loft scene with Clark and Chloe at the end.
-Lex finding the Veritas device to maintain the progression of the season ending arc. But Lex...you have the guy on the ground, how about finding out who he is then instead of going back to Smallville and calling someone to find out who he was?
-Continuity of Chloe finally being caught by the Feds after hacking everybody in the last seven years.
-A fun episode...sometimes this show (and the fans) take themselves a little too seriously.

Negatives included:

-Less proactive Clark then we were led to believe at the end of Descent.
-Less TW...although that's to be expected as he was preparing to direct Apocalypse.
-No Lois after being shot last week.
-Trying to figure out Jimmy's motivations...did he think he was protecting Chloe or did he think she might actually be up to something bad.
-Actress playing the Federal Agent...very stiff performance and she looked awful in that party dress and makeup.
-Direction and editing were a bit choppy...you could sort of tell that everything was a bit rushed to get the second new episode created after the writer's strike (probably more focused on getting Descent right).

Apocalypse should at least get the season back on track.

defga
04-24-2008, 10:41 PM
Looking around on this forum, lots of people didn't like this episode for whatever reason, but I liked it. I figured that any cliche spy thing they did was intentional and I thought the whole dance scene was enticing. Not only that but I liked the focus on Jimmy for an epsiode. Fo sure, the show should focus on Clark, but Jimmy's been given Ashmore hasn't been given a lot of screen time this season and his character needed a story where he isn't a background character. Any agreements or arguments, feel free to leave comments.

MozartRequiem
04-24-2008, 10:43 PM
Agreed! I thoroughly enjoyed the episode and found it to be a light-hearted, entertaining episode that contrasted well with last week's dark "Descent".

The only problem I had with it was Clark's cavalier attitude about Lex. After that beautiful, tragic hero vs. villain standoff last week, you'd think Clark would be more determined and heroic to stop Lex.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 10:51 PM
FYI - this was posted before I read anyone else's replies.

I have loved episodes and then other episodes were ok in the last seven seasons, but I have never been truly disappointed in an episode until tonight.

The ability to make such an incredible episode like Descent and then follow it up with one like Sleeper just blows my mind.

I love this show and think the cast, crew, writers are so talented! Yet tonight (and it wasn't the actors) - I just didn't see the point of the storyline. There is so much to be told, so much to do, and yet tonight was a filler episode (at least it felt that way to me) but to fill what? The season is already short because of the writer's strike.

I was sorely disappointed in tonight's episode. This has nothing to do with ships or anything else. This has to do with the fact that the episode made very little sense, in my opinion, much less had any basis whatsoever. They could have done a better job if they wanted the Feds coming down on Chloe. And where was Clark for all of this? Oh yea, the fortress. I love how the show focuses on Clark but also has room for the other characters, but tonight it felt so thrown together with very little plot. I love them focusing on Chloe but this story did nothing for her character development nor Jimmy's.

To me the season would have been better without this episode - just my two cents.

The VERY end with Lex in Zurich and the Chloe/Clark conversation were the only parts that were redemable. And Clark - let's throw Lana in there when someone is going to try to control you. Priorities mister! I understand focusing on Brainiac in terms of thread now that he received Kara's message but BEFORE that - Brainiac is a threat but there is no saving ANYONE if Lex gets control of him. Chloe understood that priority and made it her top priority, as should have Clark.

kavalier
04-24-2008, 10:57 PM
1) CHIMMY.
2) CHIMMY
3) Did I say CHIMMY? I almost got out my barf bag. They have no chemistry. I mean do the writers actually think anyone likes them together?



Well, lest any writers might be reading this, let me just make sure to point out that a lot of people do like Chimmy. Theyve got lots of chemistry and are a lot of fun to see on screen together.

In fact, let me just say that if there is one thing that should be beyond debate about tonights episode (I can concede it was a mixed bag), its the fact that Aaron Ashmore and Allison Mack delivered their usual stellar performances.

You know, Mack is always amazing and so its getting easier to overlook her these days because we take it for granted. But people really should go back and watch that episode and watch all the subtleties of her acting. For instance, I thought she made one of the greatest facial expressions when she was getting punched in the face. I know that may sound a bit silly, but I just appreciate that stuff a lot, and Im reminded that theres not really another actress on TV that really pulls off as many cool subtleties like that on a weekly basis.

And as for Aaron Ashmore, the guy is realling starting to shine. This is one of his best performances yet I thought. Hes a great Jimmy IMO, and Im really excited that with some of the changes coming next season, we'll probably see a lot more of him, perhaps in every epidode, who knows?

But Im not trying to down on peoples opinions who didnt like the episode. It wasnt intensely stellar. But it was fun. And thats the point I think we should be focused on. Smallville in the beginning used to have a majority of light, fun meteor freak episodes with the occassional "mythos" episode weaved in. Now the show has moved toward way more continuity and mythos, with very few fun, light, filler episodes. There really have only been a few this season: Fierce, Action, and Sleeper. Action was the best of those, but I like Sleeper as well on its own terms. And I love the Chimmy!

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:02 PM
I gave the episode a 3. Here's what I liked:

1) The writers actually let Chloe dress up for once. They hardly ever let her do the dressing up at the clubs.

2) Allison Mack can dance. It's nice they let her do something a little different.

3) The mention of Oliver and that Chloe's working for him. Still, I don't get it. Is she a part of the league or not?

4) The idea of time travel. Although, they will probably turn it into crap.

5) The mention of Virgil Swann. But did his journals have to relate to Lana?

Now, for the inevitable. This is what I hated!

1) CHIMMY.
2) CHIMMY
3) Did I say CHIMMY? I almost got out my barf bag. They have no chemistry. I mean do the writers actually think anyone likes them together?

4) Jimmy Olsen as James Bond. I mean, come on! I was laughing, and not in a good way. Clark would have been better. But Lex, would have been hot! Now he would be a sexy bond. Why can't they make Lex more of the suave villain now? (since he's supposedly all the way evil now). I mean he quotes poetry, knows history, he's rich. Let's make him an evil Bruce Wayne. And can you imagine Allison Mack and Michael Rosenbaum doing the tango? Oh, so much better! As they're both trying to get information out of each other. It would be like he hates Chloe, he's evil, but yet he's fascinated with her like Lionel always was. What they should have done was have Lex be red flagged, so he goes to the party and knowing that he's flagged because of something to do with Chloe, he dances with her to grill her for information. But NO!!!!!! I mean why? Jimmy? He's not suave!!! He's not Brad Pitt in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which is how they were trying to make it seem.

5) Clark becomes an even bigger idiot in each episode. He'd rather mope with Lana in a psychiatric ward instead of trying to get keys to protect the world? I mean he doesn't even care if he's controlled? What a moron!!!!!! And the way he uses Chloe? I hope she punches him.

6) All the inconsistencies. Lex is flagged one minute, in Zurich the next, etc...

7) Jimmy is now repeating the Chloe story line with Lionel from season 3. How much you wanna bet, at the end of the season, Jimmy will be in danger because he stands up to Lex, and Jimmy will fake his death in a fake explosion? Has this show any originality left in it?

8) Chloe's no longer the reporter????? Is this a way to light switch Lois into Chloe's job? Another reason for me to be angry with the direction of this show.

9) The continuing drop of Chloe and Clark as a romantic story line. They have chemistry and the writers just refuse to use it, because it's not their "destiny." I'm sick of all the anvils, and the lack of freedom I feel the characters have. They're all controlled by their annoying fates. This show would work better if the writers acted like they didn't know the end of the story.

10) The shots in this episode, as well as the writing almost felt arrogant. As if they think their show, and their Jimmy Olsen is so wonderful. It drives me crazy.

11) The music, especially in the last scene between Chloe and Jimmy, was horrid. It was melodramatic. I don't want to watch a soap, in particularly a Clana the sequel (Chimmy) show:

Jimmy (or Lana): I want the truth!
Chloe (or Clark): You can't handle the truth. But, that doesn't mean we can't make out!

12) Clana. Even when Lana's not there, she's there. Clana will never end. WHY?????

Well that about covers it! That touches the surface anyhow. I just haven't really liked 6th or 7th season, although last week's episode was actually decent. Too bad, Lionel's gone though. He's already missed!

I agree with the 3. You have great observations here. I agree with what you said and will just add my own observations.
I do like how they mentioned Oliver & team, it showed that Chloe is not only helping Clark but the mention of them reminded us that they are also a strong force for good and Chloe is helping them as well. I also liked that Clark appeared a bit taken aback that Chloe was also helping them (even for storage) and in contact with Oliver & team (yes Clark can be possessive but it's not just you - she's looking for the good of the world which you should be doing!).
Chloe dancing was a fun scene. A lot of episodes will throw in a fun scene here or there especially when the tone of the overall season is more serious. However, with everything else in the show it was another scene that appeared completely out of place.
I did like Jimmy making breakfast - it was cute and sweet and funny and then once again showed the problem in the Chimmy relationship - which they dropped completely and unrealistically by the end of the show.
As with any character shot the episode before, mention how Lois is doing. She doesn't have to be in the episode to at least mention that she's doing better since we really had no idea how she was doing after Descent.
I, like you, loved the mention of Virgil Swann. I could understand the entry into the journal but COME ON - do we have to focus everything on Lana? This whole Lana thing is beyond old and Clark's destiny to become Superman should not solely be on his relationship with Lana... the writer's should be better than that.
I'm not a Chimmy fan but ok - let's say they were working through things. The entire episode was unrealistic and this was yet another example. They have been on the rocks over and over and over again. He is jealous of Clark (well not knowing Clark's secret and the amount of time Clark and Chloe spend together - regardless if you like Chlark or not, it's understandable that a BF would be jealous) but AFTER he continues to doubt on Chloe and spy on her (and obtain info even after talking to Clark about trusting Chloe), he kisses her and they are all happy happy joy joy? Um NO... They both should have MAJOR issues with one another now in the trust and relationship department.
Jimmy as James Bond. I don't think the actor (AA) did a bad job...I think the writers did! This was beyond laughable!! He doesn't have the fighting ability of anyone on the show but he can do all this physical damage and stuff? Riiiight... and the Feds would just give him all these toys? Not believable.
Agree - I'm so so sick of Clana!!! Clark - worry about the ENTIRE world and not Lana right now!!The whole episode was such a huge disappointment. The actors did, as usual, an amazing job but the writing and plot just fell dead.

Lexgirl33
04-24-2008, 11:21 PM
This epsiode doesnt even compare to last week, its a shame. I voted 5 :\ I understand it was a filler but it just didnt do anything for me. One thing that pissed me off, Clark whining about Lana. It never ends.

Kevin24
04-24-2008, 11:24 PM
I liked this episode too!! The way Jimmy was moving thru those vents, and the way he dropped down behind the man with the briefcase without being noticed!! He then used a taser on him !!!! The dance scene and the way Jimmy rescued her from those two agents.

How Clark thought Jimmy was talking about him at first and was starting to explain how what he heard was a lie.

Lex finally opening the box and the foreshadowing of Clark flying to krypton.

ginnyfan
04-24-2008, 11:26 PM
I gave this episode an 8. It was weird. The tone of the episode was odd after Decent with all it's dark urgency and Lionel's death. I guess after Season 3 they just don't want to have a long string of dark episodes but... the levity in this episode just felt weird.

I think with better placement I could have enjoyed it more. I'm a girl who can giggle at a Barn Door Epiphany. LOL!

I enjoyed the Clark/Jimmy scene in the Kent Barn. I'm hoping that Jimmy and Clark can get more screen time.

I enjoyed the tango.

I loved the mention of Virgil Swann and how it leads into time travel and the idea of Brainiac preventing Clark's entire existence.

This episode was rather wonky. I'm still scratching my head about certain things. It was definite FILLER. It gets a five and then I add one point for each of my fave things.

*shakes off the oddity*

Bring on the next episode.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:31 PM
This episode had its moments...but over all it was a let down. I must be harsh...because I gave it a 4.

* Once again clark complains...but does nothing to help the process
* Chloe gets the crap beaten out of her...
*chimmy was just odd....and didnt fit. They decide to start their new relationship out on lies???

I did however like

* The tango...very sexy
* Jimmy cooking breakfast.....very Jimmy esque

Didnt mention any positives about Clark...and trust me, that wasnt an accident.

sphrkilo
04-24-2008, 11:31 PM
How do we go from an episode that I'm sure I rated a 9/10 down to a 3/10? These are the last five episodes of the season and all we get is a Chloe/Jimmy-centric pile of crap? The only good part happened after the last commercial. The writing was ridiculous. Why would Clark be more concerned about Lana than turning into Lex Luthor's puppet? That was the dumbest thing I've heard on Smallville yet. I say yet because the writers still have four more episodes to screw up. Hopefully they'll be better. This season has been a rollercoaster, and not a good one. Very disappointed.

ginnyfan
04-24-2008, 11:31 PM
I enjoyed the episode also but... something was wrong. I don't know if it was because it followed Decent or because Clark was lacking urgency about the keys... something was odd about it.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:36 PM
I think it was odd because the character were....well, out of charcter. It almost seemed like the AU. Clark was so determined last week...and now, nothing. Then Chloe and Jimmy who has previously decided to be honest....decide its ok to keep secrets. Then last but not least....normally timmed Jimmy turns into 007 over night? It just didnt seem to fit the characters at all. But it was entertaining for the most part.

ginnyfan
04-24-2008, 11:37 PM
Yeah. Maybe that's it. It was really wonky. I mean... I'm all about the Chimmy but this episode was ODD.

Twitch
04-24-2008, 11:40 PM
I'm with you two on this, there was something really weird about it, I can't put my finger on exactly what it was that made it feel so odd... My head hurts thinking about it.

AndiGirl
04-24-2008, 11:42 PM
I'm with you two on this, there was something really weird about it, I can't put my finger on exactly what it was that made it feel so odd... My head hurts thinking about it.

It's ok! I dont think any of us can figure this one out. :lol:
I remember I liked it to begin with...giggled here and there...then I kept thinking..."what the heck?" Everything seemed so backwards and odd. :\

Kirstycol
04-24-2008, 11:45 PM
How do we go from an episode that I'm sure I rated a 9/10 down to a 3/10? These are the last five episodes of the season and all we get is a Chloe/Jimmy-centric pile of crap? The only good part happened after the last commercial. The writing was ridiculous. Why would Clark be more concerned about Lana than turning into Lex Luthor's puppet? That was the dumbest thing I've heard on Smallville yet. I say yet because the writers still have four more episodes to screw up. Hopefully they'll be better. This season has been a rollercoaster, and not a good one. Very disappointed.

You took the words right out of my mouth.
I'm to disappointed to *****. Gawd I can't wait for this season to be over with.

Servayne
04-24-2008, 11:47 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth.
I'm to disappointed to *****. Gawd I can't wait for this season to be over with.

Well said. Last week's episode had me so excited for the rest of this season and now...

bizzaroboy9
04-24-2008, 11:53 PM
I thought it was awesome, very entertaining!

Vergon6
04-25-2008, 12:04 AM
I liked it too, for what it was. But it was full of plot holes and attempts at stretching our suspension of disbelief to extremes ;). Now it was no more ridiculous than the newer James Bond movies prior to Casino Royale (think Die Another Day where James Bond had a car with a freaking cloaking device! lol This is the early 21st century, not the 23rd or 24th century ;)).

defga
04-25-2008, 12:28 AM
I think it was odd because the character were....well, out of charcter. It almost seemed like the AU. Clark was so determined last week...and now, nothing. Then Chloe and Jimmy who has previously decided to be honest....decide its ok to keep secrets. Then last but not least....normally timmed Jimmy turns into 007 over night? It just didnt seem to fit the characters at all. But it was entertaining for the most part.

Yeah, i see what you mean about the AU thing. I kind of liked that though. Ever since season 5, Smallville's been pretty much darker and darker with a few attempts at humor and lightheartedness here and there, but this episode brought a sort of quarky atmosphere to it. The way Jimmy had all the cool gadgets and Chloe was playing him as well; it was a nice reprieve from the seriousness and darkness that the show has become. As long as they return to the way it was, I like the change of style in this one

annericelover
04-25-2008, 01:11 AM
Now this episode, seemed to act more like a filler. Basically it was that exciting and only furthered the story to a better story(which we'll see next week). The ending of the episode certainly redeemed the rest of the episode.

amberdawn
04-25-2008, 02:11 AM
This epsiode doesnt even compare to last week, its a shame. I voted 5 :\ I understand it was a filler but it just didnt do anything for me. One thing that pissed me off, Clark whining about Lana. It never ends.

Agreed, Rose.

Karafan1
04-25-2008, 02:23 AM
I voted 5..The James Bond cuff dart thing was a bit much I thought

jimmyolsenblues
04-25-2008, 04:39 AM
okay , i agree that it was not a great as veritas or descent, but it was not that bad, it was a cute episode.
total filler without kryptonite and using a freak of the week, so I give it a solid 6.
i always complain the worse thing about the show is clark fighting superpowered meteor rock humans, and that was not in this episode.
So I was happy with sleeper, but i have no idea why it was called sleeper.

Blue screen of death
04-25-2008, 05:28 AM
ok i can see why people think this episode was kinda lame, however, this was more of a setting the hook episode so to speak. Way to many people including myself would have been pissed if they rescued kara, stopped lex,solved veritas, and stopped braniac all nice and neat with little buildup in an episode or 2.They gave out little bits of information that may or may not be true as part of the build up to the last 2 or 3 episodes. Showing that clark and chloe looking for braniac, trying to solve this veritas thing all while trying to cure lana. I can can just see comments if none of this "filler" was shown.Wondering how they found this info out etc. I think that government agent lady may play a role down the road potentially she seemed to be on her own agenda rather then the governments. She seemed to be more of a henchmen then an evil overlord so to speak. Little hints like that were spread out that still more is going on currently the we are being lead on to believe. An example, Jor-el said nothing nor appeared when clark was in the fortress only the rift and kara's message happened. The guy that attacked lex is either or a queen or an other (i liked someones idea of thomas wayne potentially but that is another debate for elsewhere) i think we are all out of teagues and we just ran out of swann's and the only true luthor involved is suddenly 2 dimensional. It's likely to be the only remaining family of veritas we have not seen involved yet. So its a build up episode and the payoffs will come over the next three weeks. Is clark finally gonna have to man up an fly now to get to krypton? What if any theory of time travel and associated paradox's are they going to use? This episode while wasn't a great action packed episode and the whole jimmy bond 003 1/2 was pretty bad. This episode did leave me wanting more with all the potential questions and were is all this leading to overshadowing the whole story arc currently.

Jack-El49
04-25-2008, 05:30 AM
I thought Sleeper was a dud. Jimmy Olsen never equals James Bond. They should rename this series Chloeville if there are any more episodes like that. 5/10 only because I am feeling generous.

Humdinger
04-25-2008, 06:13 AM
I gave it a 3. This was a piece of crap filler. What irks me is that Descent was so awesome and the next week we get this. Hardly any plot movement except for Lex, and Chloe finding the hole that Kara and Brainiac disappeared into. There isn't that much time left in the season to get where they should be going; not that I really think they're going anywhere since they have S8 to continue the status quo. I guess it was better than a freak of the week.

Mar-El
04-25-2008, 06:33 AM
I gave the episode a 5 because it was mildly entertaining and pushed the plot forward at points. I think that's being generous though...


I was going to write a longer review, but a lot of people expressed my own sentiments.

I liked the Clark/Fortress parts. I didn't expect that this episode.

mcgairman
04-25-2008, 06:53 AM
Oh my gosh...are people seriously gonna sit here and bash this episode? Ok, it was a filler episode....all tv shows have 'em. We still got some continuity and major plot developments.

And yes, it wasnt a Clark-centric episode. I think thats great! I always find it refreshing when the writers are brave enough to let some of the other stellar characters carry the plot.

In the old George Reeves show, there were whole episodes dedicated to Jimmy Olsen...where George Reeves was barely even involved. I think this episode, like last season's Noir, carries on that tradition, and I am personally a fan of the idea. It shows that there are other things going on besides Clark's drama.

The episode was very well written IMO. I personally think that Caroline Dries always does a fine job. She had some GREAT one liners in there for Chloe particularly, like the one about Clark's greatest superpower being that look he gives, and the shipping costs that superheroes must accrue. She weaved together a very nice storyline for Chloe and Jimmy that really showed how busy Clark must keep Chloe all the time and the strain that must cause, and showed us some more aspects to her relationship to Olsen, while still managing to carry the plot forward in big ways (Lex finding the box, Clark getting called back to the past, etc.)

If the episode was weak in any area it was directorial execution. There were some underexecuted scenes like the final scene with Vanessa the spy. And she wasnt a good actress I might add...was a bit disappointed there. But the dancing was FUN (dont compare it to Dancing with the Stars folks, they probably had a few hours to learn that routine), I liked the overall spy tone, and I thought it was even a bit more humourous than usual.

Good job Smallville and Caroline Dries is what I have to say!!!

Please dont bash every episode that wants to be a bit more light and filler-like. Some of us like those eps!\

I agree with what you said. Can't understand why everyone bashes this epi. AM was excellent tonight. AA was good too.

Izzysand
04-25-2008, 06:53 AM
Im going to give this episode a 6. It was a light and fun filler, i did enjoy it a little bit, it did set up somethings for the upcoming episodes, I'm really mad at Clark (and the writers) for making Lana the priority again. I really did not like when Clark was all mopy over Lana, not caring about Lex and the box. I liked the dance and the Jimmy Bond was ok. It could have been better but oh well what's done is done.

Thrill_Seeker
04-25-2008, 07:01 AM
I mean really overall, this episode was just FUN, a nice relaxation from all the drama and stress and I really liked it and enjoyed all the "james bond" theme with jimmy. it was just fun fun fun, but then you had your more serious moments, like with lex and with vanessa beating up chloe (stupid biatch)!

stenochick
04-25-2008, 07:02 AM
I agree with a lot of these posts. I put the full blame for the problems in this episode on the writer (of the whole lot of them depending on how they develop these stories).

I felt that the main plot (and the interesting plot) was the paltry 10 minutes spent on Kara communicating to Clark from the past on Krypton, and Lex opening the box in Zurich. The remaining 30 minutes of the show was quite absurd and unnecessary for any kind character or story development, even for a sci-fi show.

I could forgive the writer for that if she had not turned Clark into a total a$$hole.

It's as if the Clark in Descent and the Clark in Sleeper are two different people. One night with Lana and he goes from hero to total jerk.

He was such a douchebag to Chloe right out of the gate after the opening credits. If the writer was trying to convey that Clark was in great grief and distress over Lana's condition, then she should have written better lines for him or at least an apology right after he treated her like that because he realized he was not being himself.

Another problem I have with this writer is why did she have to have Chloe do all of Clark's thinking for him? It's bad enough he puts her under enormous stress and danger with all the hacking. It's like, "Chloe, even though I'm the superhero here, since I cannot fly our only other option is for you to hack, even if it means being tortured and arrested."

Why does Chloe have to be the one to tell Clark to "dust off" Swann's journal and that Kara and Brainiac have time traveled to Krypton? Even the scene where he brings the journal to Chloe, it looks like he hasn't even read the entry. Was he expecting Chloe to decipher the Kryptonian message for him too?

Kara is clever enough to send these transmissions from the past, and the implication through the dialogue is that she was smart enough to know that they would be intercepted by Swann in 1989 and the Fortress in 2008, yet Clark still cannot connect the dots without Chloe spelling it all out for him.

They build up the whole Veritas key story to the point that Lex kills his father for the second key, and then all we get is five whole minutes of the big reveal of what is in the box.

This show seems to take one step forward and two steps back every season and then ends up where it started.

kryptonaidxh
04-25-2008, 07:30 AM
I'm really mad at Clark (and the writers) for making Lana the priority again. I really did not like when Clark was all mopy over Lana, not caring about Lex and the box.


:mad::rolleyes:yeah, we hated that too, for me this has been the worst episode this season, is more important to Clark to just sit and concerning just about a vegetable that is in a catatonic state than doing something for defeat the bad guys and concerning for finding his cousin Kara?!! his blood relative? or the troubles with Lex, the box and Kara are meaningless for him? when they will stop tourturing us with that big nightmare that is Clana?:(

kryptonite82
04-25-2008, 07:43 AM
Filler episode or not it left us almost where we were last episode...and Jimmy as Bond?!?!? come on, i couldn't picture it till i saw it 2/10 for me. Even though i want the series to last longer, that was a waste of an episode.

Super Maverick
04-25-2008, 07:46 AM
meh

no lois

no kara

barely any clark

meh

STFanatic
04-25-2008, 07:46 AM
After watching it again, I liked it much more.

It may be because I was more focused on what was going on than the first time around, but I found a lot more of it funny.

One must remember Jimmy Olsen was originally created over half a century ago to bring some light-heartiness into the Superman story.

He (except for a while in the '70s, where they made him "Mr. Action") was always the bumbling sidekick "Pal" of Superman that often found himself in absurd situations where he found himself way over his head and needed Superman to dig him out.
"Golly Superman/Mr. Kent, I thought I was a goner!", "good thing you came along when you did."

To see Jimmy caught up in the "Bond style" situation brought back memories of Jack Larson's Jimmy from "The Adventures of Superman" of the '50s.
(I am still waiting for Clark Kent to wink at the camera ;) )

Overall, it was not a Blow-Me-Away episode, but it was a (to me) refreshing episode to cleanse the pallet for what is to come.

superpal1
04-25-2008, 07:48 AM
Um, I almost dont know what to say. I actually rewatched this episode to see if it was as bad as I thought it was. The whole James Bond thing was totally ridiculous. Clark not worrying about Lex is just stupid. He knows he killed Lionel and has the means to control him and yet, nothing. I understand the focusing on Brainiac and the end of the show even gives a little validity to Clark trying his best to find him. Brainiac is a threat, but to just say I don't care about Lex, is Clark once again missing the big picture. I gave the episode a five. The reason being is that I am overlooking the stupid Jimmy stuff. Chloe being found out by the government makes sense. The fortress scenes and the end shot of the episode, shows that something cool might be coming. Bad episode in a pretty good season. I give the show a pass.

Ginx
04-25-2008, 08:21 AM
It def was not the best episode ever. I was kinda irritated because I was introducing a friend to SV and SPN tonight. While SPN did not disappoint and he's hooked, he wasn't all too interested in SV and I have to say....neither was I. After last week's episode I was all geared up for an awesome episode......the best part for me was the end :(

One more thing - like I said I was introducing a friend to SV and when he saw Chloe interacting with Clark he was like - 'is that Lois' lol..... I said no but thought it was funny just the same.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


After watching it again, I liked it much more.

To see Jimmy caught up in the "Bond style" situation brought back memories of Jack Larson's Jimmy from "The Adventures of Superman" of the '50s.(I am still waiting for Clark Kent to wink at the camera ;) )

Overall, it was not a Blow-Me-Away episode, but it was a (to me) refreshing episode to cleanse the pallet for what is to come.

I hope you're right and it did bring some reference to Jimmy and I guess he hasn't been much of a feature this season but I would have preferred more Clark and Lex and less 'secret agent man'. I hope you're right about 'cleanse the pallet' because I seriously want some interesting/exciting/entertaining SV.

kavalier
04-25-2008, 09:43 AM
After watching it again, I liked it much more.

It may be because I was more focused on what was going on than the first time around, but I found a lot more of it funny.

One must remember Jimmy Olsen was originally created over half a century ago to bring some light-heartiness into the Superman story.

He (except for a while in the '70s, where they made him "Mr. Action") was always the bumbling sidekick "Pal" of Superman that often found himself in absurd situations where he found himself way over his head and needed Superman to dig him out.
"Golly Superman/Mr. Kent, I thought I was a goner!", "good thing you came along when you did."

To see Jimmy caught up in the "Bond style" situation brought back memories of Jack Larson's Jimmy from "The Adventures of Superman" of the '50s.
(I am still waiting for Clark Kent to wink at the camera ;) )

Overall, it was not a Blow-Me-Away episode, but it was a (to me) refreshing episode to cleanse the pallet for what is to come.

You are EXACTLY right. I think this is exactly where the writers weree going with this episode...hearkening back to the old Jack Larson centered episodes of the Adventures of Superman. Perhaps it because Ive seen every episode of that show now on DVD and really love the ones that focus on Jack Larson that I appreciated this episode as much as I did.

In fact, I almost wish they made Jimmy I little more helpless at times...I thought the stupidest scene was when Jimmy knocked Vanessa out with one punch. I think the exact opposite should happen...that he shouldve punched her and had it have no effect and then have something really lucky happen, like having her slip on his mace bottle or something. But that bothers me every episode anyway...the fact that people are always getting knocked out with one punch.

But overall, Im a big fan of the Jimmy-centric episode and I hope the writers will feel encouraged to do it again.

ozmette
04-25-2008, 09:44 AM
this epi was a total disappointment. the plotholes were massive and many. i was also introducing a friend to smallville. thankfully, she got to watch descent first so is still interested in next weeks epi. so much was wrong with "sleeper". i think the biggest let down was in the clark and chloe scene at the beginning - lex isn't important - LANA is. are you kidding me! yikes! where are the words - oh, i don't have any. i'm speechless from the disappointment!

evilmadman
04-25-2008, 09:57 AM
i gave it 7/10, it was a really good episode....if the programme was called the adventures of jimmy olsen! most of what we had of clark was him whining, but aside from the lack of actual superman stuff, it was a really good episode!

All about Clark
04-25-2008, 09:58 AM
I was hugely disappointed and gave it a 3. TPTB should be ashamed of how they had Clark act in this episode. All that resolve to stop Lex at the funeral went right out the window, horrible. Having Clark go to Jor-el and Jor-el says nothing, horrible. Having a Jimmy/Chloe centric episode, horrible.

I always hate when Tom is going to direct, he's rarely in that episode and the one before it. But in this case, it probably wasn't so bad because Clark was just bad, bad, bad, and I forgot stupid.

This episode seemed to be everything Smallville shouldn't be. Now why did I even give it a 3.

Something else, do we get Superman effects now only every other episode, because so many eps now have no effects and no saves, it is totally depressing.

AChloeChick
04-25-2008, 11:19 AM
I figure if they writers of SV can do it, why the hack can't I. So here goes my review.


This is Manup Kent reporting from WBDA News. I’m here with Ugotta B. KiddingMe, owner of the We Can Get U Ballz meat factory, as well as the Over-the-Top Cheese factory located at 149<SUP>th</SUP> It’s Just A Filler Street of Smallville, Kansas.

U've GottaB KiddingMe, is it true that many local and nation wide pizzerias were reporting cheese shortages from about 8:00 to 8:57 last night?

Umm . . . Yes, it is.

Is it also true this particular cheese factory is a major supplier for pizzerias all over the states?


Yes, it is.

Then tell me, how is it possible that SO many of the pizzerias you supply reported a shortage of cheese, specifically during a one hour period?

I’m not sure. But from the reports I’ve been hearing, it’s all due to Smallville.

But you’re in Smallville.

I know. I don’t mean the town. I mean the TV show.

I’m sorry. I’m not following.

That’s okay. I’m not sure if I follow either. Anyway, from what I know, last night’s episode of Smallville was the cheesiest to ever air. It went so over-the-top with cheese that it actually absorbed and obliterated all the cheese we happen to supply.

Wow! I just don’t know what to say.

Sadly, me either.

With that, I’ll think it’s time to hand this over to the studio. Back to you JimmyO IsSO Not JamesBond.

Yasise
04-25-2008, 11:23 AM
I was hugely disappointed and gave it a 3. TPTB should be ashamed of how they had Clark act in this episode. All that resolve to stop Lex at the funeral went right out the window, horrible. Having Clark go to Jor-el and Jor-el says nothing, horrible. Having a Jimmy/Chloe centric episode, horrible.

I always hate when Tom is going to direct, he's rarely in that episode and the one before it. But in this case, it probably wasn't so bad because Clark was just bad, bad, bad, and I forgot stupid.

This episode seemed to be everything Smallville shouldn't be. Now why did I even give it a 3.

Something else, do we get Superman effects now only every other episode, because so many eps now have no effects and no saves, it is totally depressing.

I gave it only 1 - it was INDEED horrible!
I love Tom Welling so much, but even he was not able to save this episode from being simply BAD :(
I'm not blaming him, I'm blaming the writers/producers, whoever is responsible for this almost useless episode.

Come on, we'll not getting a full season anyway this time and they waste screentime like that??? I can't believe it!

"Descent" was great, "Sleeper" was a great dissapointment. It was just beyond boring!
There was only one scene which, IMO, had a purpose and that was the loft scene with Clark and Chloe. They explained at least, what we're going to probably see in the next episodes, oh, and I forgot, Lex got that box and that weird compass - that was all we got out of this episode - Super!:rolleyes:

bimplebean
04-25-2008, 11:50 AM
I have been *mainlining* Smallville in HD on HDNET ever since I discovered it in January, loving every bit. But I'm sorry to say this ep stood out as being incredibly stupid.

I've forgiven the writers in the past when they came up with convoluted reasons why secrets stay kept and consequences are avoided -- it's called suspension of disbelief. But this time Chloe infiltrates secret government installations around the globe, gets noticed and in the end Lex Luthor just 'makes it all go away?' I don't think so.

The bit where the DHS gets Jimmy to spy on Chloe actually had a good explanation up front -- he had Chloe's trust -- so why make Olsen do the work? He's no James Bond, and making him out to be capable of all that was just ludicrous and completely detracts from the charm and realism of the character.

The dance scene -- I really could have done without that. I'm totally in love with Allison Mack but neither she nor Aaron Ashmore are good enough dancers to pull this off -- and had they been good enough that would have ruined it too - they're not pro dancers. This was a no-win situation for both actors.

Clark, sad to say, is just being a putz in this ep. Sitting around, wingeing about Chloe not finding the data he needs. I understand the reluctance to let Clark fully bloom as Superman -- that tension and frustration is what keeps us coming back from week to week. (Many's the time I wish he's just grow a pair and take action, but I understand why the writers have been holding back.)

But I think it's time they ditch the 'no flights' rule -- with Kara as an example there's no valid reason for Clark *not* to take to the skies -- unless they want to revive the old 'fear of heights' thing -- and flying is what Clark's going to need to do to take action here. We of all people should know, you can't find out everything from computers.

I also take issue with Clark continually taking the wrong course. Yeah, we need a story, but he's gonna be Superman, for the luvva pete. (Sorry, Mr. Ross.) He has to make mistakes, then learn from them. The next time the same situation occurs he should be doing the right thing. But no, again and again in this storyline Clark and Kara make selfish, short-sighted decisions, in this case risking the lives of everyone on Earth (and Krypton!) in order to help Lana. Done occasionally, mistakes like this make for good stories but done too much it just makes us like/respect the heroes less.

In the end, sorry to say, this episode was nothing but filler. :-(

Joelito
04-25-2008, 12:21 PM
Awful, sorry but worst than noir.

smallvillelogan
04-25-2008, 12:22 PM
I also had a problem with them not showing Lex hearing the message left by Gina. What, does an uber-billionaire, one of the biggest businessmen in the world, not check his inbox?

Plot... hole.

Mrs_Tom_Welling
04-25-2008, 12:37 PM
It was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo good:D

annericelover
04-25-2008, 01:06 PM
I am getting a little annoyed with how Clark seems to never learn his lessons. He knows that his priority should be finding Brainiac and Kara, but he spends the whole time with Lana, than gets on Chloe's case about not finding anything.
Kara was prepared to show Clark how to fly, but his ignorance(because of his fear of heights, despite the fact he is invincible if he fell)forced him to completely ignore her attempts.
In every Season premiere, he has his little rant about "If I only listened, this or that wouldn't have happened, " but than he makes the same mistake in the Season Finale.
When will he learn, ughhh

Este
04-25-2008, 01:12 PM
Why all the hype about Chloe and Jimmy? Oh, yes, right, the writers want us to know with whom Clark's brain is sleeping with.

I hate what the show is doing with its main character.

Gave it 1/10, because there is no 0/10 option, and because I found the scene between Clark and Jimmy remotely enjoyable.

berniepooh
04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
This episode was set up for the next episode- which could burst wide open. It has the potential to be among the best epis of the entire run of the show.

jessef13
04-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Alright...I'm going to give this an episode a 5 out of 10. There were some ridiculous parts, but it also provided some carrying on plot points. Lex finding the compass, which is obviously going to be what leads him to the fortress. Jimmy now owing Lex, and though it was a little ridiculous, the fact we now know Kara and Brainiac are on Krypton in the past, which even though it's ridiculous, I'm thinking thats a hint of something to come, being Clark flying, because if hes going to get to where they went, wouldn't he have to fly into outer space to where they did and hit the wormhole? Other than that, it wasn't terrible except for the whole Action Hero Jimmy thing. That was a little overboard that all the sudden Jimmy was James Bond-like. Other than that, Chloe's fired from the Daily Planet now, so now her poking her nose around would likely get her red flagged, though I think even as a reporter you'd be throwing up some flags by sneaking intol secured files. But I did have a problem with Clark all the sudden this week not giving a damn about Lex, where just last week he said he was going to stop him. But overall I give it an honest 5, if you take out the Jimmy flaw and the Clark reversal, you could find some entertainment in it.

MetroGirl06
04-25-2008, 02:15 PM
Three words: Too much Jimmy :(

Krypton935
04-25-2008, 02:48 PM
i gave it a nine. I really thought this was a good episode I loved the chimmy and jimmy being like james bond. it was really cool. The only bad thing was the lack of clark.

Clarkgirl8
04-25-2008, 03:43 PM
8... this is ONLY because it made me laugh so hard :)

oberyn
04-25-2008, 03:45 PM
I gave it a 2.

skylar
04-25-2008, 03:58 PM
I say it was a sad 3 rating for me.

susangail
04-25-2008, 04:16 PM
I gave it a 5. I liked the Bond styling, but the plot was thin.

shy175223
04-25-2008, 04:21 PM
Now, for the inevitable. This is what I hated!

1) CHIMMY.
2) CHIMMY
3) Did I say CHIMMY? I almost got out my barf bag. They have no chemistry. I mean do the writers actually think anyone likes them together?

this what I liked

1)CHIMMY
2)CHIMMY
3)Did I say CHIMMY? And writers do think some of us actually like them together otherwise they wouldn't BE together.

Mr.lexy
04-25-2008, 05:07 PM
i gave it a three. it was just terriable. not to mention the chimmy dancing. ugh i wanted to shoot myself. nothing really was relvealed cept that kara went back in time. plus i thought it was going to be a big deal that chloe was wanted by the feds. and then POOF nothing happen and she swept it under the rug. she didnt even mention to clark "oh by the way the government has been watching me and i could give up ur secret i thought you should know that" very dumb epi compared to last week.

RJLCyberPunk
04-25-2008, 05:16 PM
I give it a 6 out of 10 because even though it wasn't the worse episode ever even remotely it left a lot to be desired and in fact even the tittle is wrong given what we saw it should have been called Jimmy007...

Xanderman
04-25-2008, 07:59 PM
I gave it a 4. The main story was just cheese, it had some fun moments (I don't mind some cheese now and then). A little too much cheesiness though perhaps, but I guess it was meant to be a break from the darkness/seriousness of previous episodes. A filler episode in feel, but it did manage to advance some main story arcs as well.

And like others have said, the Chimmy dancing was just plain ugly. I don't know who I felt more sorry for, Aaron or Allison... heh

I probably would have rated this a bit higher actually, like a 6 or something, but reading the many negative comments here first changed my view a bit.....negativity really has a way of rubbing off, heh. I'm sure if I see this ep again on dvd or something I'll find more to like about it, as I personally don't mind some harmless camp every now and then. It was clearly just meant to be light-hearted (or lightER-hearted) fun, in contrast to the more serious tones of other recent eps.

Thrill_Seeker
04-25-2008, 09:19 PM
OKay, after watching the episode again, I must say that i enjoyed this episode ALOT.

has anyone really realised how depressing, dark/evil and sad the show has gotten lately, i mean its full on. i think what the writers where trying to achieve here was an enjoyable relaxed episode,

I mean seriously this is the first episode in a LONG time that actually made me smile and laugh, all while enjoying it at the same time.
people who thought it was painful to watch, you chose for it to be the way, you're gonna have to get used to episodes centered around more of the out cast, cos thats whats gonna happen in season 8, and if you dont,

WELL TOUGH !!!.....go cry and get over it.

this episode was fine I wouldnt change it at all, I liked the fact that clark wasnt in it much. I just really loved sleeper, and beleive it or not I'll actually remember this episode. And also a theory maybe when lana wakes up in arctic, and sees that chloe has been arrested from the domestic security. she sees that clark has been too atached to her and she pulls the plug on their relationship, cos clark is never rational with her. she'll also notice that clark did nothing to stop lex from getting the veritas keys, which was way more important than saving clark.

hence the major change that happens for a couple in arctic thats been mentioned on the spoiler page

I dhope people can get past their negativity towards this episode and in the end I know that that type of episode is what alot of fans needed. I mean personaly I was getting really sad after watching the episode, they were although so good,

SO DARK. after that I feel refreshed and ready to take on the new episodes. NOTHING was wring with sleeper. It was different from hero. In hero i found myself actually getting bored, while as in this one, I DID NOT.

i was excited and focused.
i just hope other people can feel the same way.

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----




I probably would have rated this a bit higher actually, like a 6 or something, but reading the many negative comments here first changed my view a bit.....negativity really has a way of rubbing off, heh. I'm sure if I see this ep again on dvd or something I'll find more to like about it, as I personally don't mind some harmless camp every now and then. It was clearly just meant to be light-hearted (or lightER-hearted) fun, in contrast to the more serious tones of other recent eps.

see, I HATE it when peoples negative comments destroy the positive person sees in the episode. everyone one the ENTIRE K-site network should know that NO persons negatives comments should change yours, and it annoys me so much because it does happen.

and yes, I do agree again the episode was supposed to be just light-hearted and fun. it was fun and great !!! and negative people keep your comments to yourself pls !!
although I know you wont, cos thats your opinion. which is fine, but try not to be so negative.

this episode was just so REFRESHING.
maybe some people should watch it again over youtube.

Silent Kal
04-25-2008, 09:26 PM
I gave this one a 2.

Look--i LIKE jimmy. I really enjoyed "Noir." I even like the Chimmy relationship--they're cute together, and I like seeing characters i like being happy.

But what show was I watching last night? Because instead of Jimmy Olson, AA was playing a seasoned Chuck Bartowski. Jimmy is a good-hearted bumbler; the James Bond transformation was completely and utterly OUT OF CHARACTER.

When he shot the cufflink dart, I thought, "That clinches it--this is totally a dream." Heck, that would have even backed up the title, "Sleeper." In fact, I almost think that in some early version of the script, all of this WAS a dream. Then, after some bad rewrites, we have Jimmy Bartowski Olsen.

What I liked: breakfast; the dance (Chloe is a stone-cold fox); Time travel elements; the Lex in Zurich plot (though the flight status thing seemed totally unneeded and strange).

But no matter how much I like Jimmy, i hated his scenes; because aside from his breaking and entering discoveries, this was NOT SV Jimmy.

And don't even get me STARTED on Clark.

Thrill_Seeker
04-25-2008, 09:27 PM
The only bad thing was the lack of clark.

thats one of the thing that I DID like. :p

clana4everfan2
04-25-2008, 09:31 PM
Ok Clana/ Lana haters I understand that you want Clark to go off to training but can you stop blaming Lana. Jeeze... Also Clark loves Lana and feels horribly guilty for what happened to her because of Brainiac. Brainiac knew he could hurt Clark where it counted by hurting someone he loves. If Clark totally turned his back on her than he wouldn't really be the hero everyone wants him to be. Superman has a heart and cares for those he loves. Granted I'm happy he thought about Lana and visited her but I agree that I too think he needed to after that step up and go after Lex/ or the keys before it's too late. I definitely wanted more Clark less Chimmy since it was making me fall asleep. And no more Mr & Mrs Smith wanna be dancing.. Please.. I was cringing at the dancing.. haha LOL! :(

Thrill_Seeker
04-25-2008, 09:33 PM
well i have to disagree with you Slient Kal,
I dont think this was about jimmy being out of character,

you could tell its not his usual character, he was goofy and chessy (but I liked that)

but the fact that he was being forced to do this stuuf.
they werent actually trying to acheive jimmys character to have a james bond style at all,
i thought it was completely in his character cos he screwed up actually, like getting the employess names, and getting his ass kicked by vanessa, (the only thing I didnt like was how one punch and she was out)

so I thought it was fine, but thats my opinion.
i would give this episode an 8 before, but after watching it again it'd be a 9.5

people would say how could you rate it that high !?!?!?!!!
because that means your putting it in the same playing field is episodes like descent and traeler and rosetta (just random ones) but im certainly not doing that because those episode hsould have gone up to a 15 or 150%!!!!!!

i just couldnt see hot to rate sleeper lower than a 8/9 as I really honestly enjoyed this episode.

pizzahead2490
04-25-2008, 09:49 PM
awful

hogwartsmallville
04-25-2008, 10:40 PM
I also liked it! Long ago I was sure that this will be a filler episode, because of the early spoilers I was sure of it, also when the official description was released. Before watching the episode I went to the forums and noticed that everybody hated it, and I was with very low expectations about the episode... but it actually happended backwards... I enjoyed it a lot, the dancing scene made me laugh a lot, but I also thought there was something odd but I guess it has to do with certain plotholes that have been mentiones in other threads. Also I always try to fin good things in every smallville episodes and I like them for waht they are, I even like a lot episodes highly critisized like Ageless and Thirst, but the only one epidose that I really don't like, not even one complete scene its Noir, I don't know why, but it just never get through me, that is the only episode I could erase from my memory about the show, and I was afraid this was a like Noir 2, but I was wrong, and it was really a good episode!

Este
04-25-2008, 11:26 PM
It's ok! I dont think any of us can figure this one out. :lol:
I remember I liked it to begin with...giggled here and there...then I kept thinking..."what the heck?" Everything seemed so backwards and odd. :\

I didn't like it from the very beginning. After the first 15 minutes I was seriously thinking on giving up on Smallville. Hearing Clark say "why haven't we found Brainiac yet?", having Chloe tell him again about the keys and Lex (shouldn't Lionel's original warning from "Descent" be enough for Clark to understand?), then having Chloe tell Clark to look in Virgil Swann's journal... I just couldn't enjoy anything in this episode, not when Clark is shown without intelligence or initiative. And in the final scene, he hasn't even mentioned the bruises on Chloe's face. I'm just... I used to love Smallville, and "Descent" gave me hope that the show was heading somewhere exciting. Now I'm disgusted and disappointed. I don't understand why the writers choose to portray Clark that way. They are not dumb, they do know how the things they write will be perceived by the viewers. Then why make him so unlikable? He's the main character. I just don't understand what the hell they are doing.

borednow
04-25-2008, 11:53 PM
7 - stupid but funny and I didn't think I'd seen every scene before but Jimmy pulling a Lois on Clark was weird... and it was pretty damn stupid... light hearted filler I guess would be the best way to describe this episode.

Clark's "I don't care about lex" thing was unbelievably stupid and unbelievable... I mean Lana was in the hospital in Decent but he cared about Lex then... Oh well, this is why Clark Kent is a goldfish...

Jimmy proves that he's the man of the show now that Lionel is dead, and Chimmy has the old fire back...

Thrill_Seeker
04-26-2008, 01:48 AM
Three words: Too much Jimmy :(

get used to it, thats how its gonna be.

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omg !
people are so dramatic and negative.

"I watched the first 10 minutes and I knew i wasnt watching smallville anymore"
or
"after seeing the episode I knew smallville was going downhill"
I actually laughed when I read people post.
why are people so negative ??

thats something I thought i'd hear from one tree hill or gossip girl ???

im not joking, people are so dramatic and made it seem like this episode was pathetic.

Jaderoyale
04-26-2008, 04:56 AM
You know, i actually liked it :\
I liked Jimmy. I always have, and it was cool to see him centered in an episode. Saying that. It wasn't the best. It had a hard job following Descent, and the excitement that many people have built up for Apocalypse (well me :lol:)

Gave it a 7.

Fly by guy
04-26-2008, 07:46 AM
I found the episode so Lame, I went to Medicare to order a power scooter for the eppy. The only thing missing was " Bond, I mean Olsen, James Olsen". Wasn't Jimmy the one telling Kara they needed Chloe to do the computer wizardry? Guess he's a "fast" learner.
Gag.

RepairmanBob
04-26-2008, 07:59 AM
im not joking, people are so dramatic and made it seem like this episode was pathetic.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->Jimmy was in almost 23 minutes of a 39 minutes episode.

That is not just pathetic, it is absolutely insane.
But what show was I watching last night? Because instead of Jimmy Olson, AA was playing a seasoned Chuck Bartowski. Jimmy is a good-hearted bumbler; the James Bond transformation was completely and utterly OUT OF CHARACTER.
That's one of the WTF things for me. It would have been OOC for Chuck, who has been doing spy stuff for months and months, to pull off what Jimmy did in Sleeper. Did Jimmy take a class in Mad Spy Skillz at the same place Lana did in season six? How did a humble photographer have time to get trained on all the spy gear? Hell, now I just miss Chuck more, which is another reason to hate this horrible episode.

RJLCyberPunk
04-26-2008, 09:59 AM
get used to it, thats how its gonna be.

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----

omg !
people are so dramatic and negative.

"I watched the first 10 minutes and I knew i wasnt watching smallville anymore"
or
"after seeing the episode I knew smallville was going downhill"
I actually laughed when I read people post.
why are people so negative ??

thats something I thought i'd hear from one tree hill or gossip girl ???

im not joking, people are so dramatic and made it seem like this episode was pathetic.

Well it left a lot to be desired and had horrendous plotholes....

Feldmm1
04-26-2008, 10:01 AM
OKay, after watching the episode again, I must say that i enjoyed this episode ALOT.

has anyone really realised how depressing, dark/evil and sad the show has gotten lately, i mean its full on. i think what the writers where trying to achieve here was an enjoyable relaxed episode,

I mean seriously this is the first episode in a LONG time that actually made me smile and laugh, all while enjoying it at the same time.
people who thought it was painful to watch, you chose for it to be the way, you're gonna have to get used to episodes centered around more of the out cast, cos thats whats gonna happen in season 8, and if you dont,

WELL TOUGH !!!.....go cry and get over it.

this episode was fine I wouldnt change it at all, I liked the fact that clark wasnt in it much. I just really loved sleeper, and beleive it or not I'll actually remember this episode. And also a theory maybe when lana wakes up in arctic, and sees that chloe has been arrested from the domestic security. she sees that clark has been too atached to her and she pulls the plug on their relationship, cos clark is never rational with her. she'll also notice that clark did nothing to stop lex from getting the veritas keys, which was way more important than saving clark.

hence the major change that happens for a couple in arctic thats been mentioned on the spoiler page

I dhope people can get past their negativity towards this episode and in the end I know that that type of episode is what alot of fans needed. I mean personaly I was getting really sad after watching the episode, they were although so good,

SO DARK. after that I feel refreshed and ready to take on the new episodes. NOTHING was wring with sleeper. It was different from hero. In hero i found myself actually getting bored, while as in this one, I DID NOT.

i was excited and focused.
i just hope other people can feel the same way.

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----



see, I HATE it when peoples negative comments destroy the positive person sees in the episode. everyone one the ENTIRE K-site network should know that NO persons negatives comments should change yours, and it annoys me so much because it does happen.

and yes, I do agree again the episode was supposed to be just light-hearted and fun. it was fun and great !!! and negative people keep your comments to yourself pls !!
although I know you wont, cos thats your opinion. which is fine, but try not to be so negative.

this episode was just so REFRESHING.
maybe some people should watch it again over youtube.

I agree. Yes, there were some dumb parts but I rated it a 10 for 2 reasons: 1. The baseball game on channel 9 (where I watch Smallville) delayed it for a long time and I had to record it and go to bed. Because the episode was delayed I was very eager to finally see it. Second is what you said: it was refreshing. It also had a good amount of action, which is what I really enjoy in movies and television shows.

vyperman7
04-26-2008, 02:38 PM
I find it funny that the title for this episode was called "Sleeper". Definately very fitting. It was so boring it almost put me to sleep.

This episode was terrible. I think Smallville's main problem has always been consistency. Just when they FINALLY work up a little momentum, they take ten steps back by offering a pointless filler episode. Jimmy having to spy on Chloe for the Feds? Who comes up with this crap? I didn't really enjoy this episode at all. They tried to work in a few things to move the seasonal arc forward with Lex finding the Veritas item, and bringing in the alternate time Krypton plot. But it was too few and far between to help this stinker of an episode. Speaking of the Veritas item, I thought I was watching Alias for a second there. It looked like a Rambaldi artifact..LOL

* I was really dissapointed because the main reason why I tuned in was for the Lex FOS scene shown in the previews. However, that never happened, and it was not in the previews for next week's episode either. I am curious to see what episode it is actually from. Probably the season finale.

Also, I have always hated how the writers shove Jimmy and Chloe down our throats trying to make them seem like a great couple, when anyone with eyes can see Chloe just goes through the motions and isn't really into it. I know they want to try and wane Chloe off of Clark, but put her in a relationship where she actually cares about the guy as much as Jimmy is into her.

Definately one of the worst episodes of the season so far, and one of the worst I have seen overall in awhile.

smallvillerocks45
04-26-2008, 02:40 PM
I thought the episode was decent; perhaps a bit out of place since we only have two more episodes left in this season, but it was okay. I kind of felt like we were watching Chloe&Jimmyville, because there was so little Clark (or Lex) in it that I forgot they were regulars on the show (yes, I'm exaggerating). That being said, I know all the characters have to have their "moment" some time, and at least the parts that did feature Clark and Lex were important to the story and will affect future episodes. I'd give the show a 10 just because I love Smallville, but if I'm going to use a critical eye, I'll probably give it a 7 or 8; I'm still undecided.

skully
04-27-2008, 03:51 AM
Well, it was no Descent but I didn't think it was that bad. It had plenty of continuity, plenty of fun and plenty of promise. The Jimmy/Chloe spy thing was a slickly put-together spoof of 80s/90s secret agent movies, right down to the cheesy dancing and nifty spy gadgets. It has Lex hot on the trail of....something, and has Clark now desperate to work out how to save Lana, save Kara and save himself.

I thought AM and AA did a great job.

I give it a 7.5 out of 10.

FlashInSV
04-27-2008, 07:16 AM
I think it was incredibly funny and sweet how Jimmy turned into a Jason Bourne/ James Bond secret agent. It really suited him: who would ever suspect such a baby face? ;->

All-time favourite scene: the dance of Chimmy! SO SWEET! and cool! Where did they learn to dance like that?

I HATED the fact that Clark is still hung up on Lana. For f**k's sake, get over her already!! She's gone, kaputt!

haltoe
04-27-2008, 07:19 AM
I am getting a little annoyed with how Clark seems to never learn his lessons. He knows that his priority should be finding Brainiac and Kara, but he spends the whole time with Lana, than gets on Chloe's case about not finding anything.
Kara was prepared to show Clark how to fly, but his ignorance(because of his fear of heights, despite the fact he is invincible if he fell)forced him to completely ignore her attempts.
In every Season premiere, he has his little rant about "If I only listened, this or that wouldn't have happened, " but than he makes the same mistake in the Season Finale.
When will he learn, ughhh

You're right about neglecting Kara and that the preview talk of her teaching Clark how to fly turned out to be no more than a lot of PR smoke. Smallville needs to get with it and have her give Clark his first flying lesson.

Still this episode had a couple interesting points. It's an interesting contrast of toughness and elegance to see women in stylish evening dresses duking it out as happened with the agent and Chloe. Kara also did it in "Fierce" and it was on a Bionic Woman episode.

Best scene was at the end when Lex Luthor becomes Don Corleone and uses his influence to take care of Jimmy's legal problems. I'm looking forward to seeing Don Luthor call on Jimmy and remind him that "You owe your Don a service."

Mars Investigations
04-27-2008, 07:21 AM
"Sleeper" was okay. It was so bizarre that it was strangely entertaining, giving it its own kind of unique charm. The 007-Jimmy stuff was...terrible, to be blunt. But I liked the Chimmy interaction even if I'm not a fan of that relationship, and Clark's storyline (which should have been at the forefront) was fantastic. The dance scene was odd yet enjoyable - it made me chuckle. It didn't hurt that Chloe looked goooood in that dress, either ;)

"Looks like it's finally time for Kal-El to go home..." :D:D:D

4Clana
04-27-2008, 10:36 AM
I liked it, it's great seeing more of Jimmy and Chimmy, the dance was alot of fun.
Really, it's about time there was a Jimmy episode. :D

faz
04-27-2008, 08:58 PM
Cheesy episode with a lot of glaring plotholes, namely those involving Jimmy's ability to go from nerdy photographer to super secret agent within a few hours. That being said, there were a few good things, like the connection to the Veritas arc and the whole Kara/Krypton thing, which sets up some interesting stuff for the next few episodes. 6/10.

----- Added 48 Seconds later -----


It didn't hurt that Chloe looked goooood in that dress, either ;)

Amen to that.

skizzo
04-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Boring episode. 4/10

xrayvision
04-27-2008, 09:30 PM
It sucked. This is how they followed up with the death of Lionel? Damn shame.

seraphim
04-27-2008, 11:11 PM
I didn't care too much for this epi either...but then again I'm not too fond of any of the episodes so far, in this season. Although, I'll still watch because I love Smallville and Michael!

STFanatic
04-28-2008, 07:54 AM
I have been thinking (yes, that is rare :p ).

This episode did cover one thing that many people have commented on in many episodes.

"How can Chloe hack into classified information and not get caught?"

Well, this time she did.
Although the resolution was rather odd, but it put Jimmy in Lex's debt which sets up a possible future storyline.
Perhaps there was method in the writer's madness after all.

TigerLily83
04-28-2008, 08:04 AM
it put Jimmy in Lex's debt which sets up a possible future storyline.
Perhaps there was method in the writer's madness after all.

I am waiting to see how this pans out and what correlation it will have alongside other arcs next season.. because for some reason, my old brain just can't seem to figure out why Lex would need Jimmy at all?:confused:

berniepooh
04-28-2008, 08:40 AM
"Sleeper" was an episode that sets the stage for a dynamic story to follow. Like "Hero" set the stage for "Traveler". The important scene in "Hero" was the Clark and Pete's dialog which contained warnings and reminders from the past.
"How do you think your Dad would feel about Lionel Luther sipping coffee in your kitchen?" "You can't trust him, Clark."

The importance of "Sleeper" is the lead in to "Apocalypse". The final scene where Chloe and Clark figure out that Kara has sent messages from the past to warn Clark that BrainIAc wants to kill baby Kal El on Krypton so he will never exist on earth.

If "Apocalypse" is half as dynamic as "Traveler" was, I don't mind "Sleeper" having a weak storyline. Take the bitter with the sweet is my philosophy.

katieishere
04-28-2008, 11:25 AM
To me, this episode had one highlight. The Chimmy dance. I unabashedly loved it; I thought it was hilarious, adorable, and entertaining. Yeah, it was completely out of place and from left field, but so was the whole episode. And I couldn't be more disgusted with Clark right now, so the lightness of that scene was a welcome break.

Clark: 'Nothing matters but Lana.'

That still pisses me off. This is SUPERMAN talking!!!! He's all about the greater good!!!! He sacrifices his love for Lois in both the movies and the comics for the greater good!!! And here he is saying that even though Lex was on his way to find an object that would grant him control over Clark, LANA WAS THE ONLY FREAKING THING THAT MATTERED??? So, theoretically, if it was a choice between stopping a nuclear missile from crashing in to New Jersey and another nuclear missile from crashing into California or saving Lana from dying in her car, he would totally save Lana and let millions of people die. I said this before and I will say it again. Do AlMiles make the writers write that crap or do they just come up with it while on the toilet?

Este
04-28-2008, 11:48 AM
So, theoretically, if it was a choice between stopping a nuclear missile from crashing in to New Jersey and another nuclear missile from crashing into California or saving Lana from dying in her car, he would totally save Lana and let millions of people die. I said this before and I will say it again. Do AlMiles make the writers write that crap or do they just come up with it while on the toilet?

:lol:
Clark is mindless with guilt right now, but the writers are simply mindless. I still wonder what the heck is wrong with AlMiles and/or their writing staff. I mean, they were far from stupid back in early seasons.

Hopefulsuicide
04-28-2008, 04:52 PM
Okay, here it comes, my round of bashing

MY GOD that was awful! the only thing i liked about the entire episode was the tiny reference to Oliver

I actually couldn't stop laughing during the 'maybe we shud look to the sky' scene... where they hell where they looking before? i just don't get it. Chloe is an intellegent person... intellegent enough to come out with the line about the velocity of their flight creating ionic displacement... and she didn't look at satellites first? it was almost as ridiculous as the 'maybe he runs on energy' epiphany in Veritas... it was just so so funny... and why couldn't they just ask Ollie if they could use his satellite?

and Clark was just unbelievably selfish and one minded... Lana is the ONLY thing that matters!!!!! he is not Superman and he never will be

then the Chimmy dance... what the hell was that? seriously... it was awkward, AM looked like a complete fool, it was totally not sexy... and when did they practice that routine? and what a lame way to distract her!!!! i almost cryed with embarrasment watching it... seriously it hurt!

Jimmy using gadgets, Jimmy acting like James Bond... they even used a tiny little James Bond sounding peice of music... where did that come from? at this point i started shaking my head and sighing over and over

by the time it got the the 'chimmy' scene at the end, i was bored... and for the first time on Smallville, something i thought was impossible happened

I hated Chloe.

She was my Idol when i was 15... she was exactly who i wanted to be... now i think i would rather be Lana... even in the comatose state!!!!

All that build up to the box being opened, and they surround it with a horrible episode like that?! and it didnt even do anything cool... ohhh he turned the wheels, how exciting, it was so worth it...

Finally, Clark might be going back to Krypton... sorry but this just ruins my idea of Superman... if this, among other things too spoilery to mention, happens, i think i'm gonna stop watching... and i never give up...

Kirstycol
04-28-2008, 05:23 PM
That was awesome ranting!!!! haha

TalosTrokair
04-30-2008, 08:26 AM
This episode was a slap in the face of any intelligent life that for some reason still watches this show *myself included for the SOLE reason that I love Superman*.

The writing is SO FREAKING HORRIBLE I cannot stand it. Two good episodes back to back made me think they had gotten over the writer-newb-of-the-week string and decided to produce a watchable, cohesive storyline. I was wrong.

Last week Lex kills his dad and Jimmy takes a picture of it. Everyone hates Lex cause they KNOW he murdered his dad. This week everyone forgot about all of that and Jimmy actually went to a murderer to ask a favor. WTF!??!??! Is this even [Mod Edit] serious? Do you think we are THAT stupid?

Clark spends the whole time super-speeding from place to place like some random pinball machine gone haywire and accomplishing almost nothing in the process..

Is there a quota for pointless episodes? Does the writer of this episode have naked pics of the producers and thats why he/she is still employed? It's gotta be something close.

If I could rate this episode a -10 I would still feel slighted. I'd say its the worst episode ever.. except there are a few other contendors this season. How can two great episodes be followed by such mindless drivel?

Dear writers of Smallville,

Do you have some personal vendetta against Smallville or its watchers? How can so many other shows be so good consistantly, but Smallville be so damn random? Has the U.S government ever in the history of existance handed a random stranger a suitcase full of ultra-high-tech items and recruited them for espionage? Just because we are discussing a fictional world doesn't mean you shouldn't try and make drive-by characters seem a little real. Since when did Clark lose his freakin mind and dwell on someone who has backstabbed him TIME AND TIME AGAIN. Nobody of any significant intelligence likes Lana Lang!! If someone posts that they like Clana then they are either under 10 years old or of significantly lower intelligence (in which case they will probably actually like these crappy filler episodes so perhaps you are indeed writing to your demographic and I'm just the helpless spectator to a train crash).

Hint hint - Clark ends up with Louis. No matter how crappily craptastic you want to write the whole Clark and Lana thing.. it doesn't work out in the end. We all know it and yet you persist. He wasn't MEANT to be with Lana.. so stop draggin us through 7/8 years of useless, hopelessly pointless love stories. It's been done.. TIME AND TIME AND TIME again. They have broken up more than Van Halen and gotten back together. Wow.. very inventive. Making Lana a hurt figure so Clark has to lose focus on the main picture. I mean.. we didn't see that in season 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 did we?? OH WAIT - Yes we did. YAWN - L2write imo.

One of the few honest "fans?" left,
Lynch

berniepooh
04-30-2008, 11:11 AM
O.K. TalosTrokair; don't hold back now.......tell us what you really think!

Yasise
04-30-2008, 11:16 AM
Okay, here it comes, my round of bashing

MY GOD that was awful! the only thing i liked about the entire episode was the tiny reference to Oliver

I actually couldn't stop laughing during the 'maybe we shud look to the sky' scene... where they hell where they looking before? i just don't get it. Chloe is an intellegent person... intellegent enough to come out with the line about the velocity of their flight creating ionic displacement... and she didn't look at satellites first? it was almost as ridiculous as the 'maybe he runs on energy' epiphany in Veritas... it was just so so funny... and why couldn't they just ask Ollie if they could use his satellite?

and Clark was just unbelievably selfish and one minded... Lana is the ONLY thing that matters!!!!! he is not Superman and he never will be

then the Chimmy dance... what the hell was that? seriously... it was awkward, AM looked like a complete fool, it was totally not sexy... and when did they practice that routine? and what a lame way to distract her!!!! i almost cryed with embarrasment watching it... seriously it hurt!

Jimmy using gadgets, Jimmy acting like James Bond... they even used a tiny little James Bond sounding peice of music... where did that come from? at this point i started shaking my head and sighing over and over

by the time it got the the 'chimmy' scene at the end, i was bored... and for the first time on Smallville, something i thought was impossible happened

I hated Chloe.

She was my Idol when i was 15... she was exactly who i wanted to be... now i think i would rather be Lana... even in the comatose state!!!!

All that build up to the box being opened, and they surround it with a horrible episode like that?! and it didnt even do anything cool... ohhh he turned the wheels, how exciting, it was so worth it...

Finally, Clark might be going back to Krypton... sorry but this just ruins my idea of Superman... if this, among other things too spoilery to mention, happens, i think i'm gonna stop watching... and i never give up...

Yeah, this episode was so bad!!! It depressed me, it bored me almost to death and I felt so sorry for Smallville, the show and the actors, who had to deliver those awful lines and who had to do their job nevertheless.

Actually I still don't feel like discussing this episode. I'm going to pretend this episode never existed.

Let's hope, "Apocalypse" will be worth discussing again! See you then ;)

jesslang
05-01-2008, 07:07 AM
"Looks like it's finally time for Kal-El to go home".... that was the best line of that whole ep...and when clarks was in the fortress and all and kara was trying to tell him where she was ..and all . the last 5 mins of it was the best part.

*milica*
05-02-2008, 07:36 AM
This episode was a slap in the face of any intelligent life that for some reason still watches this show *myself included for the SOLE reason that I love Superman*.

The writing is SO FREAKING HORRIBLE I cannot stand it. Two good episodes back to back made me think they had gotten over the writer-newb-of-the-week string and decided to produce a watchable, cohesive storyline. I was wrong.

Last week Lex kills his dad and Jimmy takes a picture of it. Everyone hates Lex cause they KNOW he murdered his dad. This week everyone forgot about all of that and Jimmy actually went to a murderer to ask a favor. WTF!??!??! Is this even [Mod Edit] serious? Do you think we are THAT stupid?

Clark spends the whole time super-speeding from place to place like some random pinball machine gone haywire and accomplishing almost nothing in the process..

Is there a quota for pointless episodes? Does the writer of this episode have naked pics of the producers and thats why he/she is still employed? It's gotta be something close.

If I could rate this episode a -10 I would still feel slighted. I'd say its the worst episode ever.. except there are a few other contendors this season. How can two great episodes be followed by such mindless drivel?

Dear writers of Smallville,

Do you have some personal vendetta against Smallville or its watchers? How can so many other shows be so good consistantly, but Smallville be so damn random? Has the U.S government ever in the history of existance handed a random stranger a suitcase full of ultra-high-tech items and recruited them for espionage? Just because we are discussing a fictional world doesn't mean you shouldn't try and make drive-by characters seem a little real. Since when did Clark lose his freakin mind and dwell on someone who has backstabbed him TIME AND TIME AGAIN. Nobody of any significant intelligence likes Lana Lang!! If someone posts that they like Clana then they are either under 10 years old or of significantly lower intelligence (in which case they will probably actually like these crappy filler episodes so perhaps you are indeed writing to your demographic and I'm just the helpless spectator to a train crash).

Hint hint - Clark ends up with Louis. No matter how crappily craptastic you want to write the whole Clark and Lana thing.. it doesn't work out in the end. We all know it and yet you persist. He wasn't MEANT to be with Lana.. so stop draggin us through 7/8 years of useless, hopelessly pointless love stories. It's been done.. TIME AND TIME AND TIME again. They have broken up more than Van Halen and gotten back together. Wow.. very inventive. Making Lana a hurt figure so Clark has to lose focus on the main picture. I mean.. we didn't see that in season 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 did we?? OH WAIT - Yes we did. YAWN - L2write imo.

One of the few honest "fans?" left,
Lynch
You're TOTALLY right!!!:D

Hopefulsuicide
05-04-2008, 04:14 PM
haha, if only the writers actually read that letter! :lol:

kryptonianPOKEMON
05-05-2008, 10:18 AM
xaxaxaxaaxxaaxxa:)
At least i liked the final scene with the return to the Krepton.....!

Cyclops1974
05-12-2008, 11:57 AM
AAARGH!!!! My smallville loving soul is in pain.

Somebody please tell me that this was written by some 10-year old during the strike.

How can an episode so good as Descent be followed by something so bad like Sleeper. It's mind-boggling. I watched Sleeper about five days ago and today I wanted to give my verdict. I remembered it was bad. But I actually had to watch a couple of minutes again because the story was so pointless that I coludnt remember any of it.

Badbadbad. They could've just showed five minutes of explaining that Kara send a message from the past and Clark has to find out what happened. Now I wasted 35 minutes of my time and 5 more today!!! Aaaaaaargh!

STFanatic
05-12-2008, 12:07 PM
AAARGH!!!! My smallville loving soul is in pain.

Somebody please tell me that this was written by some 10-year old during the strike.



HEY!!! Stop insulting 10-year olds! :p

berniepooh
05-13-2008, 11:29 AM
HEY!!! Stop insulting 10-year olds! :p

Yeah!!! A lot of my friends are ten years old. (At least ten years.)

Luthorism
05-15-2008, 11:21 AM
I hate when clark is a guest-starring in his own show.. I really do!!

3 out of 10.

madcatlady
08-21-2008, 06:15 PM
I'm just watching this episode after months of pretending it never happened...I still hate it! It's the only time I actually felt dislike for Clark. I hope he's never written that way again. His stubborn Lana vigil alone made this episode even worse that Hero in my book.

Kevin24
08-21-2008, 09:33 PM
This episode is even better the second time around. I still don't see the hate behind this episode. Different strokes for different folks.

ShInE4YoU
08-27-2008, 05:04 PM
I hate hate hate when Clark is written like they wrote him in this episode!!!!! This whole "...F*** every thing else that isn't LANA..." attitude makes my stomach turn......SO NOT SUPERMAN!!!!

Flowergirl123
10-09-2008, 10:32 AM
LOved it. Chloe and Jimmy were so cute together.

Nimkong
03-04-2010, 07:48 PM
This episode is ok.I only liked how it was a flashback.But the plot sucked and it was chessey

SGuthrie27
11-21-2010, 05:12 PM
Okay, okay, okay... So I know that this episode was really corny, and not only bent but broke the boundaries of sustaining disbelief, but... I kind of... sort of... liked it? I like Jimmy, honestly, and I love Chloe, and as much as I DON'T like Chimmy, a lot of this episode was at least rather light-hearted and fun, which was a good break and change of pace compared to the dark, gritty, and tense storylines happening throughout the tail end of this season. So... I guess I'll give this 6 out of 10 goofy dances for being silly, but at least watchable. :lol:

Simba_Muffy
12-14-2010, 12:57 AM
Ok Clana/ Lana haters I understand that you want Clark to go off to training but can you stop blaming Lana. Jeez... Also Clark loves Lana and feels horribly guilty for what happened to her because of Brainiac. Brainiac knew he could hurt Clark where it counted by hurting someone he loves. If Clark totally turned his back on her than he wouldn't really be the hero everyone wants him to be. Superman has a heart and cares for those he loves. Granted I'm happy he thought about Lana and visited her but I agree that I too think he needed to after that step up and go after Lex/ or the keys before it's too late. I definitely wanted more Clark less Chimmy since it was making me fall asleep. And no more Mr & Mrs Smith wanna be dancing.. Please.. I was cringing at the dancing.. haha LOL! :(

You're an idiot.