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kalanaofkrypton
04-17-2008, 10:48 PM
when lex though alexander into the fire it reminds me of anakin turning to the darkside and falling into the flames what you do you think

Cleck
04-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Not turning to the Dark side because by that time, he already had.

The lava and Anakin screaming, "I HATE YOU!!" while he burns up is pretty much him losing his humanity, what was left of it at that point. You could see it burning in his eyes.

As for Lex putting his humanity in the fire, I know what you mean ;)

Drew
04-17-2008, 11:28 PM
The only difference is that Lex actually had a journey to the dark side that was "not a lightswitch".


I really enjoyed that scene, and it spoke a lot about his character. It broke the tie that he still had of still trying to be good.

SVilleGal03
04-18-2008, 12:04 AM
While we're at it with the Revenge of the Sith references...

"Twisted by the Dark Side, young Mr. Luthor has become..." :eek:

kalanaofkrypton
04-18-2008, 12:06 AM
yup lost he is no hope for him there is

dru-zod2501
04-18-2008, 12:09 AM
it's very similar. If Lex had screamed out "I hate you" instead of "you make me weak" ther wouldn't have been any real difference in the meaning

Vergon6
04-18-2008, 12:26 AM
The only difference is that Lex actually had a journey to the dark side that was "not a lightswitch".


I really enjoyed that scene, and it spoke a lot about his character. It broke the tie that he still had of still trying to be good.
Well Anakin's transformation was not a complete lightswitch. Sure if you only saw Phantom Menace and then the end of Revenge of the Sith, you would be confused. But in Attack of the Clones, he is clearly acting irresponsibly and then proceeds to murder the entire village where the group that kidnapped his mother were, including innocents. So I would not call that a lightswitch.

I didn't really think about the connection, but Revenge of the Sith was probably inspired by something else as well.

Cleck
04-18-2008, 12:28 AM
The only difference is that Lex actually had a journey to the dark side that was "not a lightswitch".


I really enjoyed that scene, and it spoke a lot about his character. It broke the tie that he still had of still trying to be good.

I wouldn't really say that Anakin had a lightswitch moment either. His journey was a long process, doing little things along the way to finally complete his journey. Between his slaughter of the sand people, to his confession of doing it and his Masters' jealousy, to his argument with Obi-wan in the the transport, his execution of Darth Tyrannus, and his outburst against the Jedi council, to his cutting off of Mace's hand and force choke of Padme, I'd say his journey was quite long actually :)

I do agree that Lex's killing of his humanity definitely severed what was left of the good in him. You could almost see it in his eyes that he was already changed as he finished that deed.

/nerd rant. Sorry!

tejdog1
04-18-2008, 12:29 AM
Well Anakin's transformation was not a complete lightswitch. Sure if you only saw Phantom Menace and then the end of Revenge of the Sith, you would be confused. But in Attack of the Clones, he is clearly acting irresponsibly and then proceeds to murder the entire village where the group that kidnapped his mother were, including innocents. So I would not call that a lightswitch.

I didn't really think about the connection, but Revenge of the Sith was probably inspired by something else as well.

You wouldn't do that if some group of people did that to your mother?

I would.

Vergon6
04-18-2008, 12:30 AM
You wouldn't do that if some group of people did that to your mother?

I would.
So you are telling me if murderers and rapists lived in a village or a town, you would murder everyone in the village or town, and not just the perpetrators?

tejdog1
04-18-2008, 12:31 AM
Much like ROTS - you can blame a fair amount of people for Lex/Anakin's fall(s).

Jedi Council, Palpatine, Padme (love WAS forbidden...)

Jonathan, Clark, Lionel

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So you are telling me if murderers and rapists lived in a village or a town, you would murder everyone in the village or town, and not just the perpetrators?

It's not exactly the same thing.

All of Tattooine (sp?) knows the dangers/harm a group of Tusken Raiders can do, they're ALL bad news. Getting rid of them probably served the greater good.

AJL2137785
04-18-2008, 01:24 AM
I think the comparison to Lex Luthor and Anakin Skywalker can be traced to the episode Justice, particularly the scene where Lex tells Lionel that "if terrorists like Green Arrow are recruiting people with abilities, then the only to preserve freedom and democracy is to fight fire with fire."