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vyperman7
03-30-2008, 12:51 PM
It has been quite awhile since I was this pissed off at Smallville. Here is the heading of the official CW description "KARA TEACHES CLARK HOW TO FLY". What a bunch of BS!! One scene with Clark up in the loft looking out the window, and Kara telling him its easy, does not count. I cannot believe they brushed it off with Clark once again saying "It is an ability I don't have so let's not worry about it." I could have personally cared less about the Veritas storyline and the return of Brainiac. I wanted to see Clark fly, or at least attempt to fly. When the CW puts it boldly in the description like that, we should get something.

Complete rip off!

AlwaysRight
03-30-2008, 01:18 PM
in theory it wasn't a lie, she did teach him, he just was a crappy student

TheLeague
03-30-2008, 01:19 PM
"its an ability i dont have YET! so lets not worry about it"

correction plus maybe a spoiler who knows:)

Hopefulsuicide
03-30-2008, 01:20 PM
in theory it wasn't a lie, she did teach him, he just was a crappy student

if she had taught him how to fly, he would be able to fly

saying 'it's easy' and showing that she can... thats not a lesson, thats not teaching him how to fly, its just talking about flying

curiosity
03-30-2008, 01:25 PM
if she had taught him how to fly, he would be able to fly

saying 'it's easy' and showing that she can... thats not a lesson, thats not teaching him how to fly, its just talking about flying

I thought it said, KARA DECIDES TO TEACH CLARK TO FLY. She did decide to teach him to fly. But even if it did say ''Kara teaches Clark how to fly". She did teach him, she flew in and said something like, see it's easy. That's teaching him how. But he didn't learn, and couldn't do it. You have to wait for the line, "Clark learns to fly", or even better, "Clark flies", or "Clark gains the ability to fly".

I thought he sould have at least tried and fell or something.

vyperman7
03-30-2008, 01:29 PM
She didn't teach him though. In my opinion, teaching involves trial and error and learning from your mistakes. Not Clark saying he doesn't have the ability yet, and Kara saying it's easy. If she wanted to teach him, she would have taken him up in the sky and dropped him until he could defy gravity, or at the very least have him try to levitate in the barn.

Dor el
03-30-2008, 03:48 PM
She didn't teach him though. In my opinion, teaching involves trial and error and learning from your mistakes. Not Clark saying he doesn't have the ability yet, and Kara saying it's easy. If she wanted to teach him, she would have taken him up in the sky and dropped him until he could defy gravity, or at the very least have him try to levitate in the barn.

Have you been to a university class, say molecular biology, lately??? At UofL, there is an instructor standing in front of the class with his mouth and dry markers moving. But that does not mean the students are learning. Trust me on this, please. The teacher is teaching (or at least that's what he is getting paid to do), but the students' eyes are glazed over. No learning is happening. Teaching does not equal learning.

Hopefulsuicide
03-30-2008, 03:54 PM
but she didnt speak and write things on a board... she just said 'it's easy'

i agree that technically you can teach without the person learning, but she did not do anything that constituted teaching

Mar-El
03-30-2008, 04:16 PM
but she didnt speak and write things on a board... she just said 'it's easy'

i agree that technically you can teach without the person learning, but she did not do anything that constituted teaching

Or at least nothing on-screen. I kind of got the feeling she was demonstrating how to fly right before she entered the barn-window at the beginning of that "supposed" flight scene. Yet another scene that may have made the episode a little more decent relegated to offscreenville it seems. But I'm not defending the episode in any way :p

It is false advertising, IMO...

ClLaLeChFAN01
03-30-2008, 04:31 PM
It didnt say clark will fly, only that he was being taught..

Hopefulsuicide
03-30-2008, 04:44 PM
but a sort of attempt at teaching him isnt even worth mentioning, let alone putting in as the header line for the episode

it was a con

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Or at least nothing on-screen. I kind of got the feeling she was demonstrating how to fly right before she entered the barn-window at the beginning of that "supposed" flight scene. Yet another scene that may have made the episode a little more decent relegated to offscreenville it seems. But I'm not defending the episode in any way :p

It is false advertising, IMO...

we can only guess what was offscreen. i personally dont think thats bloody good enough. we shudnt have to assume that 'offscreen' she was actually teaching him

and how dare they make him look that pathetic anyway... if i were TW i would have refused to do it

Mar-El
03-30-2008, 04:53 PM
we can only guess what was offscreen. i personally dont think thats bloody good enough. we shudnt have to assume that 'offscreen' she was actually teaching him

and how dare they make him look that pathetic anyway... if i were TW i would have refused to do it

It was definitely a con. I guess we can only hope that TW redeems his character in Apocalypse, seeing as he's directing it...But then again, he has to work with the scripts they give him :( :mad:

Hopefulsuicide
03-30-2008, 04:59 PM
lol... poor guy... his directing is going to not look as good because the actors are working with a script that they just can't get into

clarkbunny
03-30-2008, 05:00 PM
So glad i'm not the only one that found Kara's "teaching" inadequate. The writers really botched that job, I don't even know why they bothered with that scene.

When the fake Kara tried to teach Clark to fly that was much better - she actually flew with Clark, seems like a better way to try and teach him than showing him how well she can fly on her own.

I had a driving instructor like that, his idea of teaching me how to drive was boasting how well he could drive - err hello, you are a driving instructor I should HOPE you would be pretty good at driving, how about actually doing your job and teaching me how to drive! - That's what Clark should have said to Kara.

To summarise, definitely false advertising. The CW bigged up a very small and insignificant scene in this episode. I lay the blame wholly at the feet of the CW and the Smallville writers for writing such a lame scene.

Spirit Detective
03-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Yeah, the whole teaching scene was anticlimactic. Clark didn't even attempt to fly. He can't really still be scared of flying can he?

The Veritas Episode Description reminds me of how cheated I felt after watching Vessel and not seeing some of the plotpoints from Vessel's Episode Description.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/vesseldescription.htm


Brainiac (guest star James Marsters.) unleashes a deadly virus, which will kill millions of people, and refuses to give Clark (Tom Welling) the vaccine unless he agrees to release General Zod. Clark turns to Lionel (John Glover), who once again channels Jor-El.

Yet none of that happened...

neoblackdragon
03-30-2008, 05:43 PM
BRING BACK BIZZARO NOW!

I betcha he would have let Brainiac fly away in the first 5 minutes of the damn show much less stand on the roof doing nothing(heat vision, jump...........)

Dor el
03-30-2008, 06:45 PM
I read the spoiler regarding the "flying lessons" and not once did I really expect Clark to fly. No con for me.

Maybe Kara's teaching skills are lacking, but I thought that that whole "flying lessons" thing was just to introduce the idea of Clark's flying...Again. It came so naturally to her (remember she had been to earth before being marooned here), that she really didn't have a solid handle on how to teach flying. Try teaching someone to breathe. It is easy for the teacher to underestimate the teaching required for the learner to learn a skill that comes so naturally for the teacher.

Plus, I am concerned that when Clark flies, SV ends. so I am, therefore, not overly concerned or obsessed with Clark flying.

krewsaider
08-30-2008, 01:33 PM
I'm a little late for the discussion. After rewatching Veritas, I thought that what if for the original cut (the version that would have been the season finale) Clark did attempt to fly. They could have filmed the scene with him saying he doesn't have that ability after getting more episodes for the season instead of putting the flying scene in.

Randy G.
08-30-2008, 04:14 PM
Interpret the tagline however you like, it was nothing more than a cheap trick to bring in viewers.

Viewers tend to remember trickery & empty promises, as it only damages the integrity of a show. Let this be their one free pass. If it happens again, let us gather our torches and storm the CW offices. ;)