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AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 07:54 PM
Ok....I understand the ship threads are so annoying to a lot of people, but just hear me out! I'm wondering why Chloe was in the last scene....it seems, weird to me. I'm not talking as a chlark fan...or even a Chloe fan. The fact that the writers felt the need to place her in that room at that moment baffels me....and the only reasons I can think of are 1) To kill all hopes of Chlark 2) Hint at chlark in the near future. 3) Hint at Chloe healing Lana

I know...three totally different theories. But, it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had Chloe there....sitting patiently in the waiting room, waiting for Clark to come out...so she could support her best friend. But the fact that the writers felt the need to bring Chloe into the room...and watch Clark cry over Lana...is definitely forshadowing something. I mean...it should have been a private moment between a boyfriend and girlfriend.

So....either they want chloe to see how "in love" Clark is with Lana, to put the nail in the chlark coffin. (Trust me...I dont believe this for a second, but I thought I would throw it out there.) Then it could be forshadowing chlark (which believe me I really want! :rotfl:) I mean....as he closes Lana's eyes...and essentially that relationship, in walks chloe!! One goes out, another comes in. Just a thought mind you. A very good thought! Then, my final theory...Chloe is going to heal Lana. She comes in, sees how heartbroken Clark is, and she would do anything for him. She's even crying....and how did we first see her powers emerge.....in tears.

There are my lovely thoughts! And my final theory...I think too much! :p Enjoy!

TWLOVER03
03-27-2008, 07:56 PM
all good theories, yes i was confused by this as well
i also didn't understand if she was crying for lana or clark or both

sabi908
03-27-2008, 07:57 PM
please no theories :p especially involving Chloe

minerva73
03-27-2008, 07:58 PM
Well I think that they put her in there because Chloe is Lana's friend. To have her not appear by her best friend's side isn't Chloe-like. If Lana was in Smallville when Chloe died in "Bizarro", I'm sure that Lana would have gone to console Clark.

So overall, I think that Chloe went in there as a friend. Not to start up or end any relationships with Clark. Just as a friend.

It could have been a good boyfriend/girlfriend moment, but then if they ended the episode without having Chloe go talk to Lana, then it'd be like Chloe didn't even care about her. Since Kristin's not going to appear again, they probably just wanted to have one scene where Chloe and Clark are sad about losing Lana like that.

you_smell_terrific
03-27-2008, 07:58 PM
Great theories and I wondered why they felt the need to show that as well. Hopefully we'll find out what that means instead of every Chloe action being shoved under the rug -.-

*cough*
Fever letter
*cough*
Vessel kiss
*cough*
"I love your son!"
*cough*

>.>

Lostfan588
03-27-2008, 07:58 PM
It reminded me alot of last season "Progeny" about this time when clark stood near the entrance of a room watching chloe kneeling before her mother and sobbing.

I think it sort of parallels that to an extent, and it also reminded me of Bizarro when both chloe and clark cry together when they think lana's dead. just nice friendship bonding time...it was a little triangly of a scene too, i think.

STFanatic
03-27-2008, 07:58 PM
I was thinking that Chloe was considering putting the "Healing Touch" on Lana.

jimmyolsenblues
03-27-2008, 07:59 PM
I was thinking that Chloe was considering putting the "Healing Touch" on Lana.

Really good point, WHY is Chloe not healing lana asap.

alienkinfolk
03-27-2008, 08:00 PM
I mean....as he closes Lana's eyes...and essentially that relationship, in walks chloe!! One goes out, another comes in. Just a thought mind you. A very good thought! Then, my final theory...Chloe is going to heal Lana. She comes in, sees how heartbroken Clark is, and she would do anything for him. She's even crying....and how did we first see her powers emerge.....in tears.

Good theory you're either on to something or you're smarter than the writers will ever be.;)
But I hope he just closed her eyes because she was looking too creepy

minerva73
03-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Would healing work? Brainiac said that it was only reversible by him, so if Chloe healed it, then it might not even work. The light from her hands just might flicker and there'll be no dice.

And wouldn't she have to remove Brainiac's ooze from within Lana anyways since that's what's causing the problem?

Lostfan588
03-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Ok....I understand the ship threads are so annoying to a lot of people, but just hear me out! I'm wondering why Chloe was in the last scene....it seems, weird to me. I'm not talking as a chlark fan...or even a Chloe fan. The fact that the writers felt the need to place her in that room at that moment baffels me....and the only reasons I can think of are 1) To kill all hopes of Chlark 2) Hint at chlark in the near future. 3) Hint at Chloe healing Lana

I know...three totally different theories. But, it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had Chloe there....sitting patiently in the waiting room, waiting for Clark to come out...so she could support her best friend. But the fact that the writers felt the need to bring Chloe into the room...and watch Clark cry over Lana...is definitely forshadowing something. I mean...it should have been a private moment between a boyfriend and girlfriend.

So....either they want chloe to see how "in love" Clark is with Lana, to put the nail in the chlark coffin. (Trust me...I dont believe this for a second, but I thought I would throw it out there.) Then it could be forshadowing chlark (which believe me I really want! :rotfl:) I mean....as he closes Lana's eyes...and essentially that relationship, in walks chloe!! One goes out, another comes in. Just a thought mind you. A very good thought! Then, my final theory...Chloe is going to heal Lana. She comes in, sees how heartbroken Clark is, and she would do anything for him. She's even crying....and how did we first see her powers emerge.....in tears.

There are my lovely thoughts! And my final theory...I think too much! :p Enjoy!

I like your theories...i would also like to add it reminds me of the whole ISIS thing (with clark being brought to his knees) and how Chloe is not going to let that happen. I think she will be there to pick clark back up again and give him the hope/inspiration he needs to get through this time.

Kal-El-073
03-27-2008, 08:02 PM
Really good point, WHY is Chloe not healing lana asap.

Because she can't. Only Braniac can undo what was done to Lana.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:02 PM
please no theories :p especially involving Chloe

Sorry...too late! :)

JAMHEXXX
03-27-2008, 08:02 PM
No human can repair her. Braniac is the only on that can heal Lana.

TWLOVER03
03-27-2008, 08:02 PM
Really good point, WHY is Chloe not healing lana asap.


because last time she used it she was dead for 18 hours

liana
03-27-2008, 08:03 PM
Well, Chloe loves Lana as her own sister. This has been more than proved in this show, since season 2, when Chloe put Lana as her sister, in her family tree. In that sense, she is as much entitled to be there with Lana as Clark is. They put, in the same scene, the two people that right now, mean the most to Lana, and to whom Lana means the most. In fact, it remembered me of some scenes, in movies, when a character is about to die, and his whole family is surrounding him... That's what I thought, when I saw that scene.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:05 PM
Well I think that they put her in there because Chloe is Lana's friend. To have her not appear by her best friend's side isn't Chloe-like. If Lana was in Smallville when Chloe died in "Bizarro", I'm sure that Lana would have gone to console Clark.

So overall, I think that Chloe went in there as a friend. Not to start up or end any relationships with Clark. Just as a friend.

It could have been a good boyfriend/girlfriend moment, but then if they ended the episode without having Chloe go talk to Lana, then it'd be like Chloe didn't even care about her. Since Kristin's not going to appear again, they probably just wanted to have one scene where Chloe and Clark are sad about losing Lana like that.

Normally I would agree...and say Chloe should have been there...to be a good friend to Lana and Clark. But it just wasn't the right moment, which leads me to believe there is a reason. This is the first time clark gets to see Lana since he brought her in, I know chloe would let Clark have his time with her....and maybe come in once he has left the room. We know Clark doesn't break down that easily, and probably wouldn't want Chloe watching him, so why did the writers do it? Like I said...Chloe could have come in later, and still been just as good of a friend to Lana as ever.

Smallvillefan78412
03-27-2008, 08:07 PM
All good theories. Personally I think its the 3rd. But I ttly want Chlark to happen. Even tho I'm beginning to doubt it. But someone of the regular characters is supposed to die in "Descent". Since, every one but Allison is comfirmed to return in S8, I'm assuming Clark saves Lionel after Lex pushes him out of the window (trailer) and Chloe uses all her power to save Lana and ends up dying. :(

minerva73
03-27-2008, 08:10 PM
Normally I would agree...and say Chloe should have been there...to be a good friend to Lana and Clark. But it just wasn't the right moment, which leads me to believe there is a reason. This is the first time clark gets to see Lana since he brought her in, I know chloe would let Clark have his time with her....and maybe come in once he has left the room. We know Clark doesn't break down that easily, and probably wouldn't want Chloe watching him, so why did the writers do it? Like I said...Chloe could have come in later, and still been just as good of a friend to Lana as ever.

I see what you're saying, but it like Lostfan588 said it does kinda parallel the scene in "Bizarro" a bit. Chloe cried when she found out that Lana died. Now Clark's crying now that he's found that Lana's catatonic. Like you said, Clark doesn't break down easily, so if Clark's broken maybe he needs someone to help him share his sorrow with. That way they could pay their respects to Lana together instead of alone, so that they wouldn't have all of that pain on themself alone, but they could share it with each other.

liana
03-27-2008, 08:11 PM
Normally I would agree...and say Chloe should have been there...to be a good friend to Lana and Clark. But it just wasn't the right moment, which leads me to believe there is a reason. This is the first time clark gets to see Lana since he brought her in, I know chloe would let Clark have his time with her....and maybe come in once he has left the room. We know Clark doesn't break down that easily, and probably wouldn't want Chloe watching him, so why did the writers do it? Like I said...Chloe could have come in later, and still been just as good of a friend to Lana as ever.

But you see, in Prototype, when Wes Keenan died and Lois was crying, Clark stood there just watching her crying. Then, in Progeny, Clark watched Chloe breaking down over her mother. In fact, I am sure that if I will be able to find another examples of moments that a character [insert name here], watched someone [insert name] breaking down over the series. It is just one of the scenes they love doing, and that they had done a lot.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:11 PM
No human can repair her. Braniac is the only on that can heal Lana.

Hmm....good point.

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But you see, in Prototype, when Wes Keenan died and Lois was crying, Clark stood there just watching her crying. Then, in Progeny, Clark watched Chloe breaking down over her mother. In fact, I am sure that if I will be able to find another examples of moments that a character [insert name here], watched someone [insert name] breaking down over the series. It is just one of the scenes they love doing, and that they had done a lot.

That's true....the writers do seem to like their emotional scenes. Just the fact that they end the episode with Chloe crying....it just has to mean something (to me any way :lol:) In the episode where Chloe is crying over her mom, Clark just happend to be in the room when the conversation began...and they new all along that it was a posibility for her mom to go back into the catatonic state without the medication. It just seemed out of character for Chloe to barge in, she has always respected Clarks way of handling things. He tends to break down, then talk about it....but not at the same time. He just lost the woman who is supposed to be the love of his life, I think under normal circumstances, most people would give him a minute alone with her. If he was in there a long time...I could understand it. Just the randomness of it all.....kind of jump starts my forshadowing radar! :rotfl:

Jo-jo
03-27-2008, 08:16 PM
at first I thought when I read about chloe healing Lana.... I have not heard anything on Allison Mack's contract renewal. So maybe Chloe's character dies saving Lana. BUT Mike A. reported that the character who is to die this season has nevr been presumed dead before which would leave both chloe and Lana out .

Jack-El49
03-27-2008, 08:17 PM
No human can repair her. Braniac is the only on that can heal Lana.

Maybe that means "by human means". Chloe's powers are not human.

Now, about the theories, any of them are highly likely. There's a fourth theory - the Jack-El theory that believes she was there for something to do since she didn't do anything at all in the episode otherwise. :lol:

STFanatic
03-27-2008, 08:19 PM
No "Human" can heal her.
But, Chloe is not exactly Human.
And Kryptonite held back Brainiac in the jar, so maybe a Krypto-Freak can effect his evil deed.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:21 PM
Maybe that means "by human means". Chloe's powers are not human.

Now, about the theories, any of them are highly likely. There's a fourth theory - the Jack-El theory that believes she was there for something to do since she didn't do anything at all in the episode otherwise. :lol:

Thats a possibility...the guy in the waiting room was bothering her. :lol:. Oh...now I feel kind of bad.

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No "Human" can heal her.
But, Chloe is not exactly Human.
And Kryptonite held back Brainiac in the jar, so maybe a Krypto-Freak can effect his evil deed.

Thats a good point too! Or...if Chloe doesnt know people cant heal her...she may still sneak into the hospital without Clark and try.

minerva73
03-27-2008, 08:23 PM
I don't think that Lana can be "healed" like that. From what I saw, Brainiac is speaking through her or at least the ooze is speaking through her. Lana has the ooze inside of her and that's how she's in this catatonic state like Casey Brock was (from "Gemini").

For Chloe to heal Lana would be pointless because Chloe isn't removing the ooze that's causing her to be catatonic. She's just healing whatever injuries she's sustained while the ooze was within her (like the burned hand). The ooze needs to be removed before Lana's back in tact IMO.

liana
03-27-2008, 08:27 PM
I think the only thing that Chloe might be able to do, is perhaps, heal Lana's pain, but she won't be able to release her from Brainiac's control.

Minela
03-27-2008, 08:31 PM
I think they put Chloe there because AM is a great actress, her tearful look was just perfect and really made that scene. IMO. If I was a writer I would put her in most of the emotional scenes.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:33 PM
Thats true...Allison has no problem starting the water works, but Tom wasn't doing a bad job either. They really didnt need her in the scene if that was their reasoning. He held it all on his own. :)

Lostfan588
03-27-2008, 08:42 PM
I'm just relieved she didn't run across the room to fling herself on lana.

tinkerchere
03-27-2008, 08:47 PM
Just my own view but I will be totally upset if Chloe dies to save Lana.

STFanatic
03-27-2008, 08:48 PM
I don't think that Lana can be "healed" like that. From what I saw, Brainiac is speaking through her or at least the ooze is speaking through her. Lana has the ooze inside of her and that's how she's in this catatonic state like Casey Brock was (from "Gemini").

For Chloe to heal Lana would be pointless because Chloe isn't removing the ooze that's causing her to be catatonic. She's just healing whatever injuries she's sustained while the ooze was within her (like the burned hand). The ooze needs to be removed before Lana's back in tact IMO.

I just got the image of Chloe holding Lana's shoulders and the black ooze squirting out Lana's ears :lol:

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 08:50 PM
I just got the image of Chloe holding Lana's shoulders and the black ooze squirting out Lana's ears :lol:

Eww....now I do too! :p

mamma long arms
03-27-2008, 08:54 PM
Just my own view but I will be totally upset if Chloe dies to save Lana.


Me too

LoveHurts38
03-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Sad....But, it was more sad the scene with Lana and Clark.

SnowBird
03-27-2008, 09:07 PM
The three of them have been best friends for years. First they love each other as friends and then love relationships have formed. Chloe is crying for her friends. For Lana because she is physically hurt and for Clark because his heart is hurting. We will find out in the future how it plays out. Like someone mentioned, Smallville is made up of triangles and who better to see and share Clark and Lana's tragedy than Chloe.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 09:13 PM
Oh, I completely understand why she was crying....just the fact that she was there at all was awkward. I know if I was crying over my catatonic boyfriend I wouldnt want one of my friends...even my closest, to be watching. It's personal....and heart wrenching. I love that Chloe is so tuned in, and such a good person that she would cry for them both. I'm just wondering why the writers felt the need to make her a spectator. If Clark had come out of the room...and she hugged him, then went in to see Lana...it would have been one thing. I just have a hard time believing it was done this way for no reason..thats all. :)

Khyla
03-27-2008, 09:25 PM
... The fact that the writers felt the need to place her in that room at that moment baffels me....and the only reasons I can think of are 1) To kill all hopes of Chlark 2) Hint at chlark in the near future. 3) Hint at Chloe healing Lana

...the fact that the writers felt the need to bring Chloe into the room...and watch Clark cry over Lana...is definitely forshadowing something. I mean...it should have been a private moment between a boyfriend and girlfriend.

I thought that private moment was way too long and drawn out, whether that was supposed to mean anything or it was just to take up needed time since they re-shot Veritas when they found out it would no longer be the last episode, idk :\

As far as Chloe healing Lana; funny, that did not come into my mind at all.... but they wanted us to see that Chloe feels Clark's pain deeply, i don't think her sorrow was so much for Lana as it was for him.

And wow! her previous lines to Lionel really stood out, when she said something on the order of "being Clark's friend is the closest you'll ever come to touching God" ; that really lets us know how highly she thinks of Clark.

aqgalaxy
03-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Could it also be a trade off? Lana's eyes are closed with Chloe walking in, maybe it signifys the role of Leading Lady being passed.

I just think it's funny, so far it seems everyone who learned the secret left one way or another and was hurt one way or another except Chloe.

Jack-El49
03-27-2008, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=Khyla;3681477]I thought that private moment was way too long and drawn out, whether that was supposed to mean anything or it was just to take up needed time since they re-shot Veritas when they found out it would no longer be the last episode, idk :\
QUOTE]

Since this was shot as the last episode and that KK was planning to leave, perhaps due to the shortened season, they figured this is the way CK and Lana break up - with her being catatonic. I think the closing of the eyes was very symbolic and was intended to show the end of Clana as part of the 7th season finale.

Chloe barging in on that private moment was not what they should have had her do. She should have waited for Clark to re-emerge and then comfort him as a friend would truly do.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Could it also be a trade off? Lana's eyes are closed with Chloe walking in, maybe it signifys the role of Leading Lady being passed.

I just think it's funny, so far it seems everyone who learned the secret left one way or another and was hurt one way or another except Chloe.

Exactly....like a passing of the torch, thats the only reason I can think a normally considerate Chloe would walk in on a moment like that.

Khyla
03-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Could it also be a trade off? Lana's eyes are closed with Chloe walking in, maybe it signifys the role of Leading Lady being passed. i like that idea! :)


I just think it's funny, so far it seems everyone who learned the secret left one way or another and was hurt one way or another except Chloe.
Maybe Chloe's really stronger than anyone knows. ;) I do know one thing though, Chlark has endured just about everything life can throw at them, even death. :)

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 09:41 PM
[QUOTE=Khyla;3681477]I thought that private moment was way too long and drawn out, whether that was supposed to mean anything or it was just to take up needed time since they re-shot Veritas when they found out it would no longer be the last episode, idk :\
QUOTE]

Since this was shot as the last episode and that KK was planning to leave, perhaps due to the shortened season, they figured this is the way CK and Lana break up - with her being catatonic. I think the closing of the eyes was very symbolic and was intended to show the end of Clana as part of the 7th season finale.

Chloe barging in on that private moment was not what they should have had her do. She should have waited for Clark to re-emerge and then comfort him as a friend would truly do.

Exactly...it wasnt like chloe at all, so there has to be a reason for it. :cool:

Ilovebeinglost
03-27-2008, 09:46 PM
Yes she feels for Lana but her heart is breaking for Clark and what he must be going through.

Lostfan588
03-27-2008, 09:51 PM
True Lana was lookin a little ugly with those eyes, but Clark closed the eyes like you'd close he eyes of a dead person, so I can see how the scene would be taken as symbolic.

It is weird tho, that they had chloe barge in on a clana moment like that...she always barges in on every clana scene, not that I mind!

jazel
03-27-2008, 09:53 PM
I'm wondering why Chloe was in the last scene....it seems, weird to me.

The emotional punch that they were building, was deflated w/ Chloe being in that scene. She intruded on very personal moment for the grieving Clark, she ruined the sad scene for me. Because it WAS about Clark and Lana. Seems Chloe has no boundaries, when it comes to Clark, and his personal space.

Jack-El49
03-27-2008, 09:54 PM
[QUOTE=Jack-El49;3681531]

Exactly...it wasnt like chloe at all, so there has to be a reason for it. :cool:

I hope it was just a miscalculation on tptb's part. I truly hope it doesn't mean that Chloe is going to try to heal Lana. I just wouldn't like that. I'd rather see Clark resolve the problem and save Lana.

Chloe, OTH, should be sidling up to Clark to support him (and subconsciously) remind Clark she's there for him.:eek:

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 09:55 PM
The emotional punch that they were building, was deflated w/ Chloe being in that scene. She intruded on very personal moment for the grieving Clark, she ruined the sad scene for me. Because it WAS about Clark and Lana. Seems Chloe has no boundaries, when it comes to Clark, and his personal space.

It was very uncalled for....which is why it's so weird. Usually Chloe is very good about reading Clark, and what he needs from her as a friend. Which lead to me starting this forum in the first place....there are always reasons with the Smallville writers!

lastdaughterofkrypton
03-27-2008, 09:58 PM
I was thinking that Chloe was considering putting the "Healing Touch" on Lana.

You know I though that too...In the longest trailer I heard someone telling the world needs you not me...That sounds like something Chloe could say to Lana did that happened already?

SteveS
03-27-2008, 09:59 PM
My recording stopped abruptly, so I guess that means that Chloe walked into the hospital room with Lana and ClarkMan?

Or, one can say that Chloe loves ClarkMan and Lana (the latter is a platonic love, not the former) that she would risk her health and happiness to save both Clark and Lana from pain. Still, Chloe is the super girl on Smallville.

(imagine, if you will, that it had been lois who walked into the room, it would be typically meaningless and not the time or place for an unwise-crack.)

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 10:01 PM
Yep, Clark was crying over Lana....and we only see two darkend figures, and an angel from a distance. Then they show Chloe coming in, she watches him...then begins to cry herself, and thats the end of the episode.

jazel
03-27-2008, 10:01 PM
It was very uncalled for....which is why it's so weird. Usually Chloe is very good about reading Clark, and what he needs from her as a friend. Which lead to me starting this forum in the first place....there are always reasons with the Smallville writers!

It was out of the blue, PLUS that Angel statue must be the same one from the cemetary....too creepy.:lol:

Atomic girl
03-27-2008, 10:07 PM
I didn't take it as intrusion. Chloe only had Clark's account of what Lana was like, then the hospital says she can be seen. Chloe gave them a minute, then went in to see Lana herself and realized what was happening, stopped and cried when she saw the profound hurt that Clark felt. I think, whether Clark or Chloe would admit it, he needed Chloe at that time. Chloe will be the person that helps him keep perspective, and work to avoid this type of thing in the future.

Chloe_is_my_Hero
03-27-2008, 10:09 PM
I did not really think anything about it the first time I watched it. I just thought that that is what friends do. The second time I did think, "Wait, what made her come in?" You all have the best ideas. I am not keen on Chloe healing Lana though.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 10:14 PM
I didn't take it as intrusion. Chloe only had Clark's account of what Lana was like, then the hospital says she can be seen. Chloe gave them a minute, then went in to see Lana herself and realized what was happening, stopped and cried when she saw the profound hurt that Clark felt. I think, whether Clark or Chloe would admit it, he needed Chloe at that time. Chloe will be the person that helps him keep perspective, and work to avoid this type of thing in the future.

I guess everyones different, I know I personally would feel weird walking in...knowing Clark is in there, trying to cope with the situation. I would probably wait for him to come out, comfort him...then go see Lana on my own. I think.....just think.....thats what Chloe would do too normally.

SteveS
03-27-2008, 10:15 PM
Yep, Clark was crying over Lana....and we only see two darkend figures, and an angel from a distance. Then they show Chloe coming in, she watches him...then begins to cry herself, and thats the end of the episode.


Two figures? If one is Chloe, who was the other, Lionel? And an angel? Now that is interesting.

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 10:16 PM
Oh no....haha, sorry. I meant from the camera angle. It was Clark and Lana in the distance. We see them from Chloe's point of view.

jazel
03-27-2008, 10:18 PM
There aren't in a room, more like a hall way. In front of a window w/ an angel statue to Lana's left. Lana's in a wheelchair, CK's on bended knee.

Lostfan588
03-27-2008, 10:19 PM
Two figures? If one is Chloe, who was the other, Lionel? And an angel? Now that is interesting.

No...actually Clark and Lana were the two darkened figured. They were black in the shadows.

Wait...That actually would be kind of funny if the angel's lit up the scene and Chloe's the one who walks in on Clark and Lana...but I don't really remember, either way it reminded be up the ISIS line about how Lana has the power to (unintentionally) bring Clark to his knees but Chloe says she's not going to let that happen.

urherenow
03-27-2008, 10:21 PM
No human can repair her. Braniac is the only on that can heal Lana.


and why the heck not? because BRANIAC said so? :rotfl:

you guys are too much:D

AndiGirl
03-27-2008, 10:22 PM
I actually do think the angel is visible...and clark/Lana arent. Weird!!! Good catch Lostfan!!! :)

SteveS
03-27-2008, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the clarifications, I will stick with my original idea of Chloe's concern for her friend Lana and her love for ClarkMan.

jazel
03-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the clarifications, I will stick with my original idea of Chloe's concern for her friend Lana and her love for ClarkMan.

you're welcome
and at that point, she couldn't help either of them.
I would have preferred, the "focus" stay on CK and Lana.

curiosity
03-27-2008, 10:26 PM
Because she can't. Only Braniac can undo what was done to Lana.

Brainic said that not knowing about Chloe's power. Maybe he said that to tell us Chloe couldn't undo it. But...again, he doesn't know about Chloe.

If Chloe can heal, she should be able to heal anyone, wheather or not it was caused by Brainiac. He's not magic. He doesn't use magic, just technology and Chloe's powers are also Kryptonian. So she should be able to heal Lana. IMO.

Jack-El49
03-27-2008, 10:29 PM
^^^Oh God please nooooooooooooo! Please don't have Chloe save Lana. For once, let Clark solve the problem. Thanks God. Talk to you later.

Atomic girl
03-27-2008, 10:32 PM
I guess everyones different, I know I personally would feel weird walking in...knowing Clark is in there, trying to cope with the situation. I would probably wait for him to come out, comfort him...then go see Lana on my own. I think.....just think.....thats what Chloe would do too normally.I see it as an extension of all the times that anyone has been in the hospital in Smallville. The whole "gang" shows up. I even remember Clark showing up with Jason sitting by Lana's bedside and he sticks his head in and offers to buy Jason a coffee. They have always showed up to comfort each other, and most of the time, gone into the room, regardless of who's been there. It's just the Smallville way. It's that way for a lot of people based on my experience in the hospital setting. The worse the ailment, the more support shows up. And anytime a baby is born, regardless of the circumstances......

urherenow
03-27-2008, 10:35 PM
what about the martian? As the one who dies, I mean... He only shows up when clark is up against the strongest mofos and this looks like it will be one of those times.

aqgalaxy
03-27-2008, 10:39 PM
Someone else mentioned this on another site, could that final scene be a reversal of the final Calling scene where Chloe sees Clana kissing in the loft?

curiosity
03-27-2008, 10:42 PM
I thought it was odd when Chloe walked in and they focused on her crying face at the sound of Clark crying.

To me, it seemed that she was crying more because Clark was sad, then for Lana. ----- Added 57 Seconds later -----

morethanmeetstheye
03-27-2008, 10:44 PM
it reminded be up the ISIS line about how Lana has the power to (unintentionally) bring Clark to his knees but Chloe says she's not going to let that happen.


the angel's lit up the scene and Chloe's the one who walks in on Clark and Lana

That Wrath comparison is an interesting observation. I wonder if this scene was what they were foreshadowing. Hmm.

Wow, that would be symbolic if the angel was meant to represent Chloe. I'm not sure that it is, but it would be cool if it was meant to show her relationship with the couple. After all, she is Clark's secret-keeper, and she did tell Lana that she wouldn't let him fall...especially if it came to Clark being in pain because of her.

Insight
03-27-2008, 10:46 PM
That scene reminded me of the one they showed of Jonathan a few eps before he bit the big one back in S5.

urherenow
03-27-2008, 10:47 PM
nevermind my comment... just peeked at a spoiler. No way it could be the martian :/

Atomic girl
03-27-2008, 10:52 PM
But I like your martian ideas.....that's probably better than what will actually be written....

JLedge
03-27-2008, 11:05 PM
I think it was because both Clark and Lana are her best friends, and I think after all this time, she's come to realize that it's not going to happen for her and Clark.

I think she's ok with it, and kudos to Allison Mack - that was a great scene. She looked so devastated for her 2 best friends. :(

I think she's known since "Facade"/"Devoted" in S4 that it's not going to happen, but she's still important and wonderful, and that's why we love her. :)

aqgalaxy
03-27-2008, 11:17 PM
Anyone else notice it takes place in the same institution Chloe's mom was in?

SmallvilleMan
03-27-2008, 11:27 PM
Please don't try to take another classic sad moment and turn it into a ship thing. Chloe was in there crying, because her two best friends were in pain. I mean, Clark, for really the first time in 7 years looked completely broken and her friend had been put in a coma. Heck, I'd say it would be wrong for a male character not to cry at that. She knows how much Clark loves her and what he must be going through.

BWOracle
03-27-2008, 11:27 PM
I thought Chloe's presence in that scene was completely appropriate...Lana is still her best friend (remember her tears in the Bizarro episode when she thought Lana was dead) and she'd want to be there to provide Clark emotional support. She knows how devastating this is for Clark and she feels his pain (and hers as well).

SnowBird
03-27-2008, 11:28 PM
About the angels...Clark was in front of an angel when he and Lana met in the cemetery in the pilot. There was an angel in the background for Clark's dad's funeral at the cemetery. Now, there is an angel behind Lana and Clark. Could be meant as a goodbye to Lana. Angel as the beginning and the end. Watcha think?

Kryptonyt
03-27-2008, 11:31 PM
I don't believe it was by chance that Chloe came in when she did. Because the writers made a point of making sure that we all heard Chloe say "I'll wait here for you", when Clark went in to see Lana. Why would they put that line in, when moments later she barges in? I can't help but think she had something in mind (to help/heal Lana, maybe), and came rushing in thinking she could help...

Because Chloe wasn't on the rooftop when Braniac said "no human can heal her [Lana]"...maybe Chloe doesn't know that little piece of information yet. Time will tell...

kentfamily
03-27-2008, 11:32 PM
I thought that last scene with the three of them were so powerful. I understood it as Chloe crying and hurting for Clark. Seeing as Clark was hurting and crying over Lana.

I guess Chloe came in to see of everything was okay. Well put BWoracle.

do3mire
03-28-2008, 12:08 AM
... And my final theory...I think too much! :p Enjoy!

Hmm! This one sounds about right. Hehe!

Lostfan588
03-28-2008, 12:15 AM
I mean, Clark, for really the first time in 7 years looked completely broken and her friend had been put in a coma.

Er, Clark gets broken alot on this show. I thought he looked pretty broken in eps like Reckoning, Labyrinth, and Bizarro, maybe even Wither with that bouncing balls scene....

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Please don't try to take another classic sad moment and turn it into a ship thing.... She knows how much Clark loves her and what he must be going through.


So you mean don't turn it into a Chlark ship thing. :lol:

Don't worry, I was only thinking of Clark (okay okay and lana) in that scene.

That still doesn't make it any less random why they had Chloe walk in on that clana moment when just a few seconds before she said she'd be waiting for clark.

It is curious.

Black Man of Steel
03-28-2008, 12:48 AM
I think that it would be an opportunity for them to write Chole out of the show. When I say that I mean that she could do one more healing miracle on Lana only to not recover from it. But that really can't happen since Choles been signed for Season 8. Guess she's not the one dying.

Lostfan588
03-28-2008, 12:51 AM
Wouldn't that be so beautiful if Chloe died for Lana. Hahahaha....ehhhh...Actually I wonder if Clark would ask or even let her do it.

AndiGirl
03-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Hmm! This one sounds about right. Hehe!

Yep, what I thought! :lol:

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I don't believe it was by chance that Chloe came in when she did. Because the writers made a point of making sure that we all heard Chloe say "I'll wait here for you", when Clark went in to see Lana. Why would they put that line in, when moments later she barges in? I can't help but think she had something in mind (to help/heal Lana, maybe), and came rushing in thinking she could help...

Because Chloe wasn't on the rooftop when Braniac said "no human can heal her [Lana]"...maybe Chloe doesn't know that little piece of information yet. Time will tell...

Exactly...it wasnt an accident. :)

Ladyalchemy
03-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Wouldn't that be so beautiful if Chloe died for Lana. Hahahaha....ehhhh...Actually I wonder if Clark would ask or even let her do it.

I am sure he would let Chloe risk her life for Lana without second thoughs. Sad that in my mind what could have been a beautful (Clana) relationship has been pushed to an obsessive point that Clark's Lana blinders are on so bad he would sacrafice his best friend for her with little to no thought. I wish I didn't feel that way.

morethanmeetstheye
03-28-2008, 06:00 PM
About the angels...Clark was in front of an angel when he and Lana met in the cemetery in the pilot. There was an angel in the background for Clark's dad's funeral at the cemetery. Now, there is an angel behind Lana and Clark. Could be meant as a goodbye to Lana. Angel as the beginning and the end. Watcha think?

Another interesting observation. I like this one too.

TPTB sure seem to like putting angels in their shots. I noticed that about the scene as well. It appears that the angel is always there for a reason...as a symbol signifying something else.

TheLeague
03-28-2008, 06:32 PM
dunno why she was there myself would have been funny for clark to say...........lana i cant deal with this,.............*chloe walks in* im leaving with chloe goodbye! =D

LexLuv180
03-28-2008, 07:55 PM
She was in the last scene because two people she cared about were in the other room, one sick and the other grieving. I don't see anything strange about that.

AndiGirl
03-28-2008, 08:45 PM
She was in the last scene because two people she cared about were in the other room, one sick and the other grieving. I don't see anything strange about that.

Her timing was totally off....thats whats weird. she had just said moments before that she would wait for him out there...which was the appropriate thing to do. If Clark had time to be with Lana alone previously...I would understand. But seeing that this is the first time he gets to visit Lana since she was brought into the hospital, it should have been a private moment between a boyfriend and his girlfriend. The fact that Chloe couldnt respect their moment...and barged in was strange, and very unlike Chloe.

LexLuv180
03-28-2008, 08:50 PM
Maybe she heard the sobbing and went to see? I don't know. It was strange with the timing, but I did think the overall scene was done well.

AndiGirl
03-28-2008, 09:00 PM
It was a good scene...I agree. I dont know why, but I think it would have been better if she wasnt there though. If they had just ended the episode with the distance shot of Clark crying over Lana. It was just random why they would end it with watching chloe cry. The scene really had nothing to do with her, except she was grieving for her friends. So apparently she has more to do with it all then we think....which was my theory. It was weird, but the writers had to have a reason.

STFanatic
03-28-2008, 09:06 PM
I am thinking it is setting up a future scene.

Honey45
03-28-2008, 09:30 PM
The first thing I thought of was Chloe healing Lana.

But they probably just put her in the scene because otherwise everyone would be like "Where was Chloe? Does she know what's going on with Lana" etc.

go_clo
03-28-2008, 09:49 PM
I liked having Chloe in the scene. She made it more dramatic and sad.

Truthfully I didn't really start feeling emotional until she walked in. I felt sad before but not emotional. She just added something to the scene and I thought it was good of the writers to add her in and not just ignore how she felt about the situation like they sometimes do. It was nice to see her sad for her 2 best friends, plus we got to see that she really does still care alot about Lana, despite their differences this season!

ginnyfan
03-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Well, Chloe loves Lana as her own sister. This has been more than proved in this show, since season 2, when Chloe put Lana as her sister, in her family tree. In that sense, she is as much entitled to be there with Lana as Clark is. They put, in the same scene, the two people that right now, mean the most to Lana, and to whom Lana means the most. In fact, it remembered me of some scenes, in movies, when a character is about to die, and his whole family is surrounding him... That's what I thought, when I saw that scene.

I agree. That's what I saw too. I was more moved by Chloe's reaction to Lana condition than Clark's.

Smallvillefan78412
03-29-2008, 12:17 AM
Ok, this doesn't have anything to do with Chloe in the scene. But did anyone else feel that weird vibe when you saw Lana in the wheel chair, Clark standing beside her, AND the angel on the window sill? It gave me chills; made me think about the first time Clark "met" Lana's parents in the graveyeard.....how he was standing in front of that huge angel and the wings looked like his....

Seeing that re-occur in "Veritas" touched me more than all the water works and Lana's condition. :( I just found it very moving. Great, great, great scene.

Twitch
03-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Ok, this doesn't have anything to do with Chloe in the scene. But did anyone else feel that weird vibe when you saw Lana in the wheel chair, Clark standing beside her, AND the angel on the window sill? It gave me chills; made me think about the first time Clark "met" Lana's parents in the graveyeard.....how he was standing in front of that huge angel and the wings looked like his....

Seeing that re-occur in "Veritas" touched me more than all the water works and Lana's condition. :( I just found it very moving. Great, great, great scene.
Yeah that angel was a nice touch, made the whole scene even sadder.

I agree. That's what I saw too. I was more moved by Chloe's reaction to Lana condition than Clark's.
I was touched by Chloe's reaction as well, but I find Clark's moved me more, just seeing him there with his head in her lap and sobbing, it got to me.

go_clo
03-29-2008, 12:55 AM
I agree. That's what I saw too. I was more moved by Chloe's reaction to Lana condition than Clark's.
Agreed, I felt the same way! :)

jazel
03-29-2008, 01:15 AM
I was touched by Chloe's reaction as well, but I find Clark's moved me more, just seeing him there with his head in her lap and sobbing, it got to me.

WHY did the viewers, "need" a reaction from Chloe ? I don't care what Chloe's feeling, about CK and Lana...... IT was about Lana, and Clark. Chloe had NO business, being there.

Lazy Boy
03-29-2008, 02:11 AM
Just reading the opening thread and not all the comments underneath, I would say that the purpose of Chloe in the last scene was to add more of an emotional feel to the scene as I think (and yes I am bias about this) she brings in a more emotional aspect to it.
So because Clark is the big strong superdude, he doesn't cry, so Chloe cried for him.

jazel
03-29-2008, 02:19 AM
So because Clark is the big strong superdude, he doesn't cry, so Chloe cried for him.
He WAS, openly crying !:mad:
Tears streaming down his face, doesn't work for you ? :p
Chloe had NO business, in that scene....it's NOT about her !
Sorry, they "threw" her in it.:p

litew8
03-29-2008, 02:35 AM
So apparently she has more to do with it all then we think....which was my theory. It was weird, but the writers had to have a reason.I think I know why you considered it off. I noticed it too. Maybe we both noticed the same thing - or maybe you noticed it but didn't really recognize it the same way I did.

The reason why I thought it was strange - was because Chloe kind of RUSHED into the scene. As if she actually FELT or KNEW something was happening to Clark. Perhaps she FELT his sorrow, and knew that he was crying - thus she rushed in.

That's what I gathered.

No way in a million years would it imply that Chloe is going to step in and take Lana's spot in Clark's life. That's a cruel thing to suggest.

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Yeah that angel was a nice touch, made the whole scene even sadder.Don't get me wrong, I like angel statues and the meaning behind angels and all - BUT:

THERE'S NO WAY THAT LANA DESERVED TO BE PUT IN THAT TYPE OF LIGHT.
Considering EVERYTHING she's done recently. NO WAY!

maryjanewatson
03-29-2008, 02:54 AM
Ya, I don't think it has anything to do with the beginning or end of any romantic relationships.


Chloe walked into a room where 2 of the people she loves most in the world are hurting. If that had been me, and that happened to 2 people I loved, I would be crying too.

litew8
03-29-2008, 03:22 AM
Maybe it was just me then, but it seemed like she RUSHED into the scene.

go_clo
03-29-2008, 05:34 AM
Maybe it was just me then, but it seemed like she RUSHED into the scene.
Ya thats one thing that confused me. I haven't seen the rest of the episode, just that last part and from just watching that part, I thought that maybe Chloe had only just found out meaning she had only just showed up and hadn't even talked to Clark yet and didn't know he was in there. :confused: I only found out that she actually knew before-hand what had happened from reading these posts.

From the way she walked in, it looked like she had something urgent to tell him or felt something was really wrong or something to make her wanna walk in like that.

That was the only problem I had with her being there, the way she ran in left me confused. ;)

Hopefulsuicide
03-29-2008, 10:19 AM
Ok....I understand the ship threads are so annoying to a lot of people, but just hear me out! I'm wondering why Chloe was in the last scene....it seems, weird to me. I'm not talking as a chlark fan...or even a Chloe fan. The fact that the writers felt the need to place her in that room at that moment baffels me....and the only reasons I can think of are 1) To kill all hopes of Chlark 2) Hint at chlark in the near future. 3) Hint at Chloe healing Lana

I know...three totally different theories. But, it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had Chloe there....sitting patiently in the waiting room, waiting for Clark to come out...so she could support her best friend. But the fact that the writers felt the need to bring Chloe into the room...and watch Clark cry over Lana...is definitely forshadowing something. I mean...it should have been a private moment between a boyfriend and girlfriend.

So....either they want chloe to see how "in love" Clark is with Lana, to put the nail in the chlark coffin. (Trust me...I dont believe this for a second, but I thought I would throw it out there.) Then it could be forshadowing chlark (which believe me I really want! :rotfl:) I mean....as he closes Lana's eyes...and essentially that relationship, in walks chloe!! One goes out, another comes in. Just a thought mind you. A very good thought! Then, my final theory...Chloe is going to heal Lana. She comes in, sees how heartbroken Clark is, and she would do anything for him. She's even crying....and how did we first see her powers emerge.....in tears.

There are my lovely thoughts! And my final theory...I think too much! :p Enjoy!

totally agree. i was leaning more towards Chloe healing Lana, because he could see how much pain Clark was in and it cut her up inside, that much was obvious.

what i found weird is that she just looked at him... i mean i know it's awkward and a private moment, and im not sure what i would have done either... but i expected the writers would have had her hug him or something

actually no i change my mind lol... chloe did what i would have expected her to do in that situation. clana has always been hard for her but she respects it.

go_clo
03-29-2008, 10:46 AM
totally agree. i was leaning more towards Chloe healing Lana, because he could see how much pain Clark was in and it cut her up inside, that much was obvious.

what i found weird is that she just looked at him... i mean i know it's awkward and a private moment, and im not sure what i would have done either... but i expected the writers would have had her hug him or something

actually no i change my mind lol... chloe did what i would have expected her to do in that situation. clana has always been hard for her but she respects it.
Well I think she was originally intending to go over and give Clark a hug but from the looks of it, she just didn't want to intrude. Plus she probably wanted to look strong for Clark when she did go to comfort him and after seeing them both, she just couldn't hold it together.

Hopefulsuicide
03-29-2008, 10:51 AM
i love chloe... in this episode it felt like she was back

do3mire
03-29-2008, 11:06 AM
It was a good scene...I agree. I dont know why, but I think it would have been better if she wasnt there though. If they had just ended the episode with the distance shot of Clark crying over Lana. It was just random why they would end it with watching chloe cry. The scene really had nothing to do with her, except she was grieving for her friends. So apparently she has more to do with it all then we think....which was my theory. It was weird, but the writers had to have a reason.


I am thinking it is setting up a future scene.

I was rewatching some S7 epis. I think it was Blue. Where Lionel comes to Lana for help. Lana wearing glasses. Remember? Well, there was a later scene in the epi where Lana tells Lionel she wont do it. She's waiting for him in his office and she's looking at an envelope with the red wax Veritas seal. Which was like totally meaningless without knowing anything about what was coming.

I have little faith in SV continuity having been disappointed so often. But, I agree that Chloe was not needed in that scene. I don't know if it foreshadows anything, but the Chlarkana has been quite strong this season. Maybe it's just one of many Chlarkana moments this season.

Khyla
03-29-2008, 11:17 AM
...
The reason why I thought it was strange - was because Chloe kind of RUSHED into the scene. As if she actually FELT or KNEW something was happening to Clark. Perhaps she FELT his sorrow, and knew that he was crying - thus she rushed in.

That's what I gathered.

No way in a million years would it imply that Chloe is going to step in and take Lana's spot in Clark's life. That's a cruel thing to suggest.

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Don't get me wrong, I like angel statues and the meaning behind angels and all - BUT:

THERE'S NO WAY THAT LANA DESERVED TO BE PUT IN THAT TYPE OF LIGHT.
Considering EVERYTHING she's done recently. NO WAY!

I completely agree with your post.

and Lana being put in that type of light:\ it must have been to appease the numerous Clana-ists out there, that's all i can say. ...unless it was to show the dichotomy between her and an angel.; the angel being white and her being a black sihlohette ---and didn't she look demon-like (...well we know she is possessed by Brainiac basically...) but what I can't understand is why no one is discussing the words she uttered: "Kal-El. You're too late, Ka'-El" ---or did i miss that thread?

----And another thought i just had, maybe Chloe sensed that Lana could do harm to him in some way, since her body according to Brainiac is controlled by him now.......

chlo-el
03-29-2008, 11:31 AM
I don't know I'm still thinking it was part of Chloe's power empathy. Like she couldn't help but feel Clark's pain and had to go in there.

Even if it wasn't I don't see anything wrong with the scene. Chloe didn't go in the same room and she didn't distrub him she just saw Clark crying for Lana and it caused her to cry. Lana has been like a sister to her and it was heart breaking to see.

I really like that there was an angel in the background. I love it when angels are either mentioned or shown. I don't think the Angel had anything to do with Lana it had to do with Clark. Angels has been mentioned when refering to Clark saving someone. Jimmy and Lex both referred to Clark as a gaurding angel w/out realizing they were referring to Clark. And in Superman the animated series when superman first shows up before they got the name people were calling him an Angel. The Angel also makes the scene that more beautiful.

Twitch
03-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like angel statues and the meaning behind angels and all - BUT:

THERE'S NO WAY THAT LANA DESERVED TO BE PUT IN THAT TYPE OF LIGHT.
Considering EVERYTHING she's done recently. NO WAY!
Yeah I know, I didn't see it as them portraying Lana as an angel, because you're right she's done some pretty nasty things this season.

I saw it more as reflecting on the graveyard scene back in season 1, like Smallvillefan78412 mentioned. You can argue that that scene was the start of the Clana relationship, the start of something new. I took the scene at the end of Veritas with the angel as showing us how the Clark and Lana relationship has come full circle. But this time instead of it being the beginning of something new, it's the beginning of the end? Does that even make any sense? :lol:


As for Chloe in the last scene, I'm not really sure what to think of it honestly. You're right that she just kind of rushed in at the end. I guess I saw it as her not being able to wait any longer, she wanted to see the condition her friend was in. People can say that Chloe and Lana are rivals all they want, but they've known in each other for 7 years, and were even roommates. Chloe is a kind, compassionate person with so much love towards others. Seeing her two friends in so much pain broke her heart.

redraven
03-29-2008, 11:52 AM
Chloe being that scene bothered me soo much. It should have been between Clark and Lana, only; it was obvious that Clark wanted to be alone with her, and Chloe agreed to wait outside for him! So she gives him, what like 30 seconds before she goes in herself? It almost seemed like she came in thinking, "Oh! Time's up Clarkie let's go." Ugh.

And I think it was obvious she was crying for Clark, and his pain only. Not Lana.

Twitch
03-29-2008, 12:04 PM
and Lana being put in that type of light:\ it must have been to appease the numerous Clana-ists out there, that's all i can say. ...unless it was to show the dichotomy between her and an angel.; the angel being white and her being a black sihlohette ---and didn't she look demon-like (...well we know she is possessed by Brainiac basically...)
I think that's a little harsh, Lana may not be a perfect little angel, but she's not a little demon either. :lol:

but what I can't understand is why no one is discussing the words she uttered: "Kal-El. You're too late, Ka'-El" ---or did i miss that thread?
You missed that thread. :D

----And another thought i just had, maybe Chloe sensed that Lana could do harm to him in some way, since her body according to Brainiac is controlled by him now...
I think this is a little bit of a stretch, I don't think Chloe was running in there thinking "Oh no Clark's in trouble!" Plus Clark is a big boy he can handle himself... I think. :p

And I think it was obvious she was crying for Clark, and his pain only. Not Lana.
In my opinion it was a combination of both Lana and Clark, Chloe just crying for Clark would make her seem pretty heartless.

go_clo
03-29-2008, 12:15 PM
Chloe being that scene bothered me soo much. It should have been between Clark and Lana, only; it was obvious that Clark wanted to be alone with her, and Chloe agreed to wait outside for him! So she gives him, what like 30 seconds before she goes in herself? It almost seemed like she came in thinking, "Oh! Time's up Clarkie let's go." Ugh.

And I think it was obvious she was crying for Clark, and his pain only. Not Lana.
I don't see the problem, it's not like she disturbed them. Sure she rushed in but once she saw that Clark was having his moment with Lana, she stayed put and grieved alone. Not like she ran up and tried rushing Clark out or suddenly made the Clana moment her own. She respected them and let them be alone.

As for your last comment...I think you are being slightly biast, don't you? How was it obvious that she wasn't crying about Lana and only Clark? I think it was "obvious" that she was crying for them both!

skizzo
03-29-2008, 12:19 PM
I don't think they're that close for Chloe to be crying about Lana. It's deffo about Clark ;)

go_clo
03-29-2008, 12:23 PM
I don't think they're that close for Chloe to be crying about Lana. It's deffo about Clark ;)
Well they did get some bonding time in that last episode. ;) Despite their differences this season, I think they still care about eachother alot.

Smallvillefan78412
03-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Ya thats one thing that confused me. I haven't seen the rest of the episode, just that last part and from just watching that part, I thought that maybe Chloe had only just found out meaning she had only just showed up and hadn't even talked to Clark yet and didn't know he was in there. :confused: I only found out that she actually knew before-hand what had happened from reading these posts.

From the way she walked in, it looked like she had something urgent to tell him or felt something was really wrong or something to make her wanna walk in like that.

That was the only problem I had with her being there, the way she ran in left me confused. ;)

^^ Agreed. I felt she added a lot of emotion to the scene, but why did she have to rush in? Why not just walk in with Clark instead of suggesting to stay out? I was a bit confused about that. She practically blew off the door then stops right in her tracks. Perhaps there's some double meaning that we'll find out later, or the writers just decided to write it like that. Have to wait and see....:\

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Yeah I know, I didn't see it as them portraying Lana as an angel, because you're right she's done some pretty nasty things this season.

I saw it more as reflecting on the graveyard scene back in season 1, like Smallvillefan78412 mentioned. You can argue that that scene was the start of the Clana relationship, the start of something new. I took the scene at the end of Veritas with the angel as showing us how the Clark and Lana relationship has come full circle. But this time instead of it being the beginning of something new, it's the beginning of the end? Does that even make any sense? :lol:


As for Chloe in the last scene, I'm not really sure what to think of it honestly. You're right that she just kind of rushed in at the end. I guess I saw it as her not being able to wait any longer, she wanted to see the condition her friend was in. People can say that Chloe and Lana are rivals all they want, but they've known in each other for 7 years, and were even roommates. Chloe is a kind, compassionate person with so much love towards others. Seeing her two friends in so much pain broke her heart.

Exactly! Thank you! :D

redraven
03-29-2008, 01:04 PM
I don't see the problem, it's not like she disturbed them. Sure she rushed in but once she saw that Clark was having his moment with Lana, she stayed put and grieved alone. Not like she ran up and tried rushing Clark out or suddenly made the Clana moment her own. She respected them and let them be alone.

I just feel like Chloe interrupts too many Clana moments...you're right though she could've gone up to Clark and said something or did something to make the scene her own.


As for your last comment...I think you are being slightly biast, don't you? How was it obvious that she wasn't crying about Lana and only Clark? I think it was "obvious" that she was crying for them both!

I guess I am being biased. The scene bothered me so of course I'm going to be negative, but at the same time, she does care more about Clark then she cares about Lana (if at all...I'm having trouble believing that she does) so of course when she cries it's more for him than Lana.

SteveS
03-29-2008, 01:45 PM
Given that my recording stopped before the end of the scene and I did not actually see it...if Chloe did not barge in and embarrass ClarkMan at a teary moment and merely peered in on Lana and Clark, then no big deal. Only if the two people in the room minded her presence would Chloe looking in be a problem. Otherwise, caring and looking in is still no problem.

litew8
03-29-2008, 01:45 PM
I completely agree with your post.

and Lana being put in that type of light:\ it must have been to appease the numerous Clana-ists out there, that's all i can say. ...unless it was to show the dichotomy between her and an angel.; the angel being white and her being a black sihlohette ---and didn't she look demon-like (...well we know she is possessed by Brainiac basically...) but what I can't understand is why no one is discussing the words she uttered: "Kal-El. You're too late, Ka'-El" ---or did i miss that thread?

----And another thought i just had, maybe Chloe sensed that Lana could do harm to him in some way, since her body according to Brainiac is controlled by him now.......Agreed. I understand hospitals are all about faith, hope and healing - and that most have statues or symbols of such - it isn't unlikely that a statue would just so happen to be there - as in most hospitals. But they took it one step further and had her dressed in all white - as if attempting to portray her (Lana) as pure - which is not right. Why wasn't she wearing a hospital gown instead? :confused:

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As for Chloe in the last scene, I'm not really sure what to think of it honestly. You're right that she just kind of rushed in at the end. I guess I saw it as her not being able to wait any longer, she wanted to see the condition her friend was in. People can say that Chloe and Lana are rivals all they want, but they've known in each other for 7 years, and were even roommates. Chloe is a kind, compassionate person with so much love towards others. Seeing her two friends in so much pain broke her heart.I just suspect that Chloe could feel Clark's pain. She knew something wasn't right - or that his pain was escalating. She then rushed onto the scene. That might imply that there is a growing bond between the two characters.

That'd be cool if my speculation from past is somehow correct.
Chloe will save Clark's life and become part of the FOS.
C.H.L.O.E. - The FOS computer. Clark goes to to aquire information, etc... :D

smallville sage
03-29-2008, 05:14 PM
That'd be cool if my speculation from past is somehow correct.
Chloe will save Clark's life and become part of the FOS.
C.H.L.O.E. - The FOS computer. Clark goes to to aquire information, etc... :D


Seriously, you've got to be kidding. Chloe cannot just become a computer. I mean really....:mad:

aqgalaxy
03-29-2008, 05:16 PM
Honestly Chloe in the last scene only means that the Chlarkana triangle is frozen until Season 8

curiosity
03-29-2008, 05:47 PM
I like your theories...i would also like to add it reminds me of the whole ISIS thing (with clark being brought to his knees) and how Chloe is not going to let that happen. I think she will be there to pick clark back up again and give him the hope/inspiration he needs to get through this time.


I have to agree with you. Chloe clearly told Clark she would wait for him in the waiting room, giving him time to visit Lana. Then she barges in and the last thing you hear is a sob and the camera zoom in on her distraught face.

It seems to me she is worried about Clark. If not, she could have waited her turn to visit Lana. She knows Clark is going to need her, and she seems to have an understanding of Clark's importance to the world. She seems to be the only one right now who gets it. Remember in season 5 when she asked Clark about giving up his powers, and said she felt he was meant for more, and also emphasized that she wasn't talking about his feelings for Lana?

Twitch
03-29-2008, 05:49 PM
That'd be cool if my speculation from past is somehow correct.
Chloe will save Clark's life and become part of the FOS.
C.H.L.O.E. - The FOS computer. Clark goes to to aquire information, etc... :D
C.H.L.O.E? That's quite the theory... Where do you come up with this stuff? LOL


Jor-El: Kal-El my son, why have you come?

Clark: Oh don't mind me dad, I'm just accessing C.H.L.O.E.


I dunno that would be a little weird :rotfl:

Atomic girl
03-29-2008, 10:55 PM
Now that I'm home, I just watched this scene again, and I noticed that Chloe did run in. The first thing that struck me was that maybe some hospital person summoned her? Maybe someone saw Clark on bended knee top of Lana and didn't think he'd have the strength to deal well with the situation? She would rush in to "help" Clark and then see him grieve and just weep for the whole situation and both her friends.

I've been at the hospital and been summoned when someone was getting scared or frightened, so I kind of read it that way. Anyway, I still don't find it at all weird, hospitals are the one place you usually want privacy and never really get it.....

As an aside, I noticed right away that it was the same hospital that Chloe's mom had been in, but what was with the hallway meeting?

Ans another really weird thought hit me....is the Luthor marriage actually officially dissolved? Or is Lex in charge of Lana's care now? Scary......that could add a twist....

STFanatic
03-29-2008, 11:51 PM
My question is, was that a hospital or some kind of institution?

She was in a nightgown, and that was some kind of long hallway, not a hospital room.
No bed, no instruments and so on.
I watched the scene over and over to make sure, but I am 99.99% sure she is not in a wheelchair.

litew8
03-30-2008, 02:19 AM
C.H.L.O.E? That's quite the theory... Where do you come up with this stuff? LOL


Jor-El: Kal-El my son, why have you come?

Clark: Oh don't mind me dad, I'm just accessing C.H.L.O.E.


I dunno that would be a little weird :rotfl:Yep. :D
Superman is suppose to have a supercomputer.

Here's my take (scroll down the thread to read the beginning):
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85599&page=3

:D :D :D

Serynarpc
03-30-2008, 02:52 AM
I also found this weird. Although that long scene from Chloe's POV down that hallways was spectacular, I think it was supposed to have Chloe as a witness to Lana's condition and its affect on Clark. While I'd hope it leads to Chloe giving Clark a tough love speech into making him man up and act like Superman instead of crying in his girlfriend's lap, its a toss up at this point.

I do hope that they don't go for Chlark. While I love all forms of Chlark, its simply tactless with Lana in her condition- just like Jimmy's move on Chloe while Kara didn't have her memory.

I think liana has a point- looking at the expression of Chloe was more emotionally wrenching for me than watching Clark & Lana, if only because Lana should just be placed in a lead vault to keep all of these 'save Lana' episode arcs from reoccurring near the finales.


No...actually Clark and Lana were the two darkened figured. They were black in the shadows.

Wait...That actually would be kind of funny if the angel's lit up the scene and Chloe's the one who walks in on Clark and Lana...but I don't really remember, either way it reminded be up the ISIS line about how Lana has the power to (unintentionally) bring Clark to his knees but Chloe says she's not going to let that happen.

Excellent point. That scene was more of a friendly warning between the two near- sisters over Clark's well being. If this scene was supposed to parallel that Isis scene on how Lana could bring Clark to his knees, Chloe replied that she'd never let that happen.

How can we translate that to this scene, however? In this scene, its healthy for Clark to be grieving over Lana's condition. Perhaps Chloe is supposed to bolster his courage and give him resolve to see this 'terrible' thing through?
She did also just come from frantic Lionel and has not had a chance to tell Clark whats coming.

Yasise
03-30-2008, 08:58 AM
It reminded me alot of last season "Progeny" about this time when clark stood near the entrance of a room watching chloe kneeling before her mother and sobbing.

I think it sort of parallels that to an extent, and it also reminded me of Bizarro when both chloe and clark cry together when they think lana's dead. just nice friendship bonding time...it was a little triangly of a scene too, i think.

Exactly what I thought about, too, that scene of "Progeny". maybe Chloe was reminded of that, too and of course she was sad because of Lana being in that condition and because of Clark for being so hopeless and sad.

I don't think, that Chloe's ability will work here, because Lana is kind of "possessed" by Brainiac, so that's not something she can heal, or am I wrong?

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My question is, was that a hospital or some kind of institution?

She was in a nightgown, and that was some kind of long hallway, not a hospital room.
No bed, no instruments and so on.
I watched the scene over and over to make sure, but I am 99.99% sure she is not in a wheelchair.

Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Actually one would expect her to lie in a hospital bed, but instead she was sitting in a chair at the end of a long, dark hallway.....really weird.
But it looked good with that angel statue in the background at least:)

Khyla
03-30-2008, 09:46 AM
My question is, was that a hospital or some kind of institution?

She was in a nightgown, and that was some kind of long hallway, not a hospital room.
No bed, no instruments and so on.
I watched the scene over and over to make sure, but I am 99.99% sure she is not in a wheelchair.

yes. i can't understand why everyone keeps going on about it being a hospital room . She was at the end of a long corrider, sitting in a regular chair from what i could tell. It had to have been some sort of long-term care facility.


I also found this weird. Although that long scene from Chloe's POV down that hallways was spectacular, I think it was supposed to have Chloe as a witness to Lana's condition and its affect on Clark. While I'd hope it leads to Chloe giving Clark a tough love speech into making him man up and act like Superman instead of crying in his girlfriend's lap, its a toss up at this point.

I do hope that they don't go for Chlark. While I love all forms of Chlark, its simply tactless with Lana in her condition- just like Jimmy's move on Chloe while Kara didn't have her memory.

I think liana has a point- looking at the expression of Chloe was more emotionally wrenching for me than watching Clark & Lana, if only because Lana should just be placed in a lead vault to keep all of these 'save Lana' episode arcs from reoccurring near the finales.

agree w/ everything in your post here. I too, did not shed a tear UNTIL i saw the hurt and pain felt for Clark on Chloe's face.

if this is how Clark and Lana break up then it's a total cop-out of the writers'. the only possible reason i could see them doing that would be to satisfy the Clana fans.... but i think they are doing those fans more harm than good by perpetuating that ridiculous notion that shallow "love" based on fairytales and insecurities is an everylasting love .

neo0721
03-30-2008, 10:35 AM
she is obviously sad because of what is happening to lana, ups and downs or not they are still bestfriends

morethanmeetstheye
03-30-2008, 11:47 AM
Actually one would expect her to lie in a hospital bed

I'm glad they didn't put her in another hospital bed. They have had plenty of those scenes as far as I'm concerned...

What they gave us was very intriguing: the long, dark hallway, the chair and normal white gown, the angel, the silhouette of the two against the window. It was all much more aesthetically pleasing than a repeated hopital bed scene.

(I like that they are changing things like this in the new season. They have been showing new shots of the Kent farm and of other places as well.)

Sarah J
03-30-2008, 12:04 PM
Really good point, WHY is Chloe not healing lana asap.

I don't really think that what's wrong with Lana can be fixed without Brainic doing something. The fact that the doctors don't know what's wrong with Lana is a reason why Chole shouldn't heal her. It most likely won't work, or it will completly kill her if she tries. What Brainic did to Lana was something that was Kryptonian and as we've seen before only a powerful Kryptonian can fix it.

AlwaysRight
03-30-2008, 12:07 PM
they should have played the song "Happy Ending" for that scene

Yasise
03-30-2008, 01:06 PM
they should have played the song "Happy Ending" for that scene

oh, come on....!!!

This wasn't a "Happy ending" at all. This was so much a unresolved and open ending!

How is Clark supposed to go on with such a burden on his chest??? I mean "go on" concerning this relationship?

ginnyfan
03-30-2008, 09:57 PM
they should have played the song "Happy Ending" for that scene

LOL! That is so evil!

AlwaysRight
03-30-2008, 10:22 PM
LOL! That is so evil!

I don't want Clana scenes to steal Clois scene songs(from Facade) but i will make an exception in this case.

Welling_is_pretty
03-31-2008, 06:11 PM
i also didn't understand if she was crying for lana or clark or both
Yeah, as Chloe stood there getting all teary I wondered if she was crying for Lana, Clark or both.

Or yeah, was she having sort of deja vu about her Mom?

It was a good scene though. Allison always rocks.

AlwaysRight
03-31-2008, 09:12 PM
Yeah, as Chloe stood there getting all teary I wondered if she was crying for Lana, Clark or both.

I'll take the side she was crying for both

clarkbunny
04-01-2008, 07:51 PM
I thought Chloe looked upset about Lana but I also got a bit off sadness for her ship with Clark seeing that Clark still cares deeply for Lana.

Whilst it would be perfect for a Chlark ship to begin I can't see that happening with Lana in a coma. Clark just isn't the kind of guy to hook up with another girl the minute his GF is out of action - that's more Jimmy's style LOL!

Serynarpc
04-04-2008, 03:50 AM
I thought Chloe looked upset about Lana but I also got a bit off sadness for her ship with Clark seeing that Clark still cares deeply for Lana.

Whilst it would be perfect for a Chlark ship to begin I can't see that happening with Lana in a coma. Clark just isn't the kind of guy to hook up with another girl the minute his GF is out of action - that's more Jimmy's style LOL!

I agree. While I've personally been seething over Clana after 'Bizarro' (She took to bed your doppelganger homicidal alien? Come ON!) if they pursue any Chlark within three episodes of Lana's condition, that'd be tactless. I would be furious.

The only exception may be if theres another CHLARK season finale kiss which TPTB seem to LOVE.
Otherwise, there better only be 'you're such a great friend, I'm so glad you're in my life' a la Promise/Labyrinth.

dunkman
04-04-2008, 10:05 AM
I think Chloe was there because she has been Lana's faithful best friend since season 2, & she's hurting as much as Clark is. I wouldn't rule out Chloe healing Lana, because although Brainy said only he could cure her, he doesn't know about Chloe's power! It might be healing Lana that finally kills Chloe, but I sure hope not!

All about Clark
04-04-2008, 11:19 AM
I think Chloe teared up over Clark's crying. I think she was there to be a friend to both but it was Clark's emotion that she was tearing up over.

KAL-EL10
04-07-2008, 06:03 PM
I think Chloe teared up over Clark's crying. I think she was there to be a friend to both but it was Clark's emotion that she was tearing up over.

I agree i think she was there just because she is Lana's friend and also to comfort Clark.

Bigx07
04-16-2008, 09:42 AM
I almost cried when I saw that. Chloe is such a wonderful person to all her friends.

Chlarkfan
04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
I have my own Chlana theories about this but I'm going to keep my mouth shut for the moment.

ekoo
04-16-2008, 02:43 PM
I don't know... I thought that scene was the best one of the episode.

I loved the way they portrayed Clana and it was so sad and heartwrenching. I think, though Lana made mistakes it's not fair to fault her so extremely (Chloe made plenty too). I'd like to think Chloe was crying for both of them... She's not heartless and she does care about Lana even if they disagree on some things. I really love the whole Chloe/Lana friendship and without Clark I believe they would be BFF's.

The whole angel being there just added the whole ambiance of love and caring, between all of them, in all different ways.

Who knows why Chloe went in, either way, I don't think she took any thing away from the scene.