So wheres Brainiac and Kara flew off too?

[TheLeague]

In the comics brainiac used kara to allow darkseid to come from apokolips into play so im gonna go along with that theory that they have gone there no matter how big a stretch it may be

it does seem to be coming more likely tho u gotta admit..........

still i hope clark will fly before then

your thoughts ppl? :cool:

[Alexander III]

Hey can u explain to me who darkseid is? Was it the thing that Brainiac tried to release from season...5?

[lastwords]

Yeah i would like to know who darkseid is as well... though wikipedia might be able to slove my deliema.

[TheLeague]

One link to darkseid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid

hes a big superman villain maybe a little too powerful for clark but we shall see :cool:

also im trying to find a source as to which superman version it was that my theory follows will post as soon as i find out

i only read a few comics and the superman/justice league cartoons and he is one of my favourite villains
just because hes so cool =D

[lastwords]

AH you eat me to the posting of the wikipedia link. Shame. Thanks for it though.

[Kal-El-073]

Hey can u explain to me who darkseid is? Was it the thing that Brainiac tried to release from season...5?

Darkseid:

http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Darkseid

http://www.supermansupersite.com/darkseid.html

Zod was Jor-El's arch nemisis on Krypton. He was imprisoned in the Phamtom Zone by Jor-El. Zod was who Braniac was trying to release. In season 5 Braniac wanted to use Clark as a vessel for Zod. He instead used Lex. If you want different links to Zod, I can post them as well.

[Alexander III]

One link to darkseid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid

hes a big superman villain maybe a little too powerful for clark but we shall see :cool:

also im trying to find a source as to which superman version it was that my theory follows will post as soon as i find out

i only read a few comics and the superman/justice league cartoons and he is one of my favourite villains
just because hes so cool =D

Ah cool! That guy is sure good-looking :rotfl:
So wow, he's that powerful?!? So u're rite, the super-cousins can't stand a CHANCE against him! :p

[TheLeague]

Ah cool! That guy is sure good-looking :rotfl:
So wow, he's that powerful?!? So u're rite, the super-cousins can't stand a CHANCE against him! :p

any1 here wanna see an omega beam vs heat beam fight ( and ends up with clarks heat vision getting upgraded so its on par with darkseid's ) i think that would rock :D

another interesting note ill add is that in the cartoon darkseid is voiced by micheal ironside who also plays lois lane's father, general sam lane in smallville

[JAMHEXXX]

It also appeared as though Kara and Braniac went through a Boom Tube.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Tube

A boom tube is an extra dimensional portal used by residents of New Genesis and Apokolips . Darkseid is from the planet Apokolips, so maybe Brainiac is going to team up with him. Isn't one of the upcoming episodes called Apocalypse?

[Kal-El-073]

Sure looked like a Boom Tube to me. I can't wait to see what it all leads up to.

[Aldo]

REALLY?! Kara and Brainiac went through a BOOM TUBE!?!?!

lol sorry Im a little excited!

[TheLeague]

It also appeared as though Kara and Braniac went through a Boom Tube.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Tube

A boom tube is an extra dimensional portal used by residents of New Genesis and Apokolips . Darkseid is from the planet Apokolips, so maybe Brainiac is going to team up with him. Isn't one of the upcoming episodes called Apocalypse?

thats an AWESOME suggestion sure did look like one im gonna slo-mo watch it :D and yeah brainiac teaming up with darkseid is part of mythology aswell ( justice league )

[JAMHEXXX]

Here is the scene when the tube opens up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-BV1vo140M

[TheLastKryptonian]

Here's a video of Darkseid vs Superman from Superman the Animated Series and Justice League/Justice League Unlimited. Even though Supes usually comes out on top it's usually by a fluke IMO. They're AMAZING for cartoons btw. THESE ARE REAL CARTOONS! LOL :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzGyqSbGew&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-k4up-ALjU&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gIshOOX0-lA

[psyko69]

Thats a boom tube if ever I saw one!!!

[6-Super-Man -5]

It will be interesting to see in "Descent" or "Sleeper" and if not for sure "Apocalypse"

[dru-zod2501]

please Great Lord Darkseid, erase this Kryptonian insect from existence. The Omega Effect is the End of All Things!

but with this show's budget, I bet Darkseid (if that's what they're planning) is gonna be like Galactus in the last FF movie, huge threat you never get to see

[jazel]

how bad is it that, if I don't really care ?:lol:

[Twitch]

Ugh I hope not, Galactus was lame :lol:

[jazel]

:lol:....don't get me into trouble, NO offense to the Gala guy, BUT I was referring to the ORGINIAL poster's reply......"Where have B and K flown off to ?"....me just don't care.:p

[Aldo]

C'on! How could you not care?

Aren't you excited to see if they went to another dimension, another Planet?!

[Timester]

:lol:....don't get me into trouble, NO offense to the Gala guy, BUT I was referring to the ORGINIAL poster's reply......"Where have B and K flown off to ?"....me just don't care.:p

If what they went through is indeed a Boom Tube, then you really should care, since it's going to be the main plot next season. A Boom Tube is that important on the DCU.

[wolverine316]

I think they could never do Darkseid any justice with their tight budget so they are better off just hinting that the threat is looming but Clark makes sure he never appears.

[Mr. thinks 2 much]

There budget might be an issue. On one hand Mike and Kristen will be in less but I still bet they had to pay more per episode to keep them in a few. The series final will be a big money drain too. hopefully CW will give them extra for that.

Also the show isn't big on villians that looks comicbooky. Ex. M.M. never going green.

So if he does come on the show he must look a bit more human, like Kevin Sorbo, j.k. but who know?

Also Clark can't win, he's no where near where he would have to be. So why have him on. It even seems like a stretch for a season 8 episode 21.

[TheLastKryptonian]

In an interview with Al Gough he said that Mongul and Darkseid were always possibilities. If they didn't go to Apokalips (Darkseid), maybe they went to Warworld (Mongul). In the comics War World was ruled by Mongul and Brainiac.

Here's more info on Warworld.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warworld

Here's info on Mongul. As you see he's a powerful threat but not as powerful as Darkseid that the fight would be one sided.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongul

http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Mongul_I_%28New_Earth%29

http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Mongul

[Cl4rk_K3nt]

I'd like a Clark/Darkseid fight, especially if clark upgrades his powers.

[Kal-El-073]

I'd almost rather see a Clark/Darkseid fight than a Clark/Mongul fight. But that's just me.

[Mr. thinks 2 much]

I would maybe like to see it but not until a late season 8. It's to early for him to be fighting these guys. I do think Doomsday should come though, just kidding.

Mongul makes more sense if he worked with Brainaic and is weaker than Darkseid. I also think it might be cool if Kevin did the role. I would like him more than some wrestler. That would seem to gimicky and commerical.

Anybody got any stride gum I could have? ;)

[Lara Lane]

what for does Brainiac want Darkseid? What would be his gain?

[dru-zod2501]

what for does Brainiac want Darkseid? What would be his gain?
I could see Brainy wanting the Anti-Life equation as well, and being brazen enough to think he can double-cross a god, or if he's still serving Zod what better way to remove the Kryptonian insect than almighty Darkseid? leaving him free to open the zone

[Kal-El-073]

I could see Brainy wanting the Anti-Life equation as well, and being brazen enough to think he can double-cross a god, or if he's still serving Zod what better way to remove the Kryptonian insect than almighty Darkseid? leaving him free to open the zone

That's assuming that Zod was sent back to the Phantom Zone. Clark did tell Martha that he didn't know how to return them to the Zone and that his only choice might me to kill them.

[Razzle]

I am hoping they went to release Eradictor, i think it would make more sence rather than bringing in Darksied

[IamProdigy]

That's assuming that Zod was sent back to the Phantom Zone. Clark did tell Martha that he didn't know how to return them to the Zone and that his only choice might me to kill them.


Yah...the crystal that Clark had, the one he used on Zod and Baern immediately sent them back to the Phantom Zone...much like MM's red crystal did to that phantom wraith in "Labyrinth". That crystal did have too much energy however, because of the energy Baern took from Brainiac which turned him into ash in "Fallout", so that's the energy that turned the Fortress back on.

I think Brainiac isn't quite a leader in Smallville canon, I mean, he was working for Jor-El and then Zod made Brainiac work for him, and with Zod in the Phantom Zone again, Brainiac would want to make a deal with another big supervillain. While getting information inside Dax-Ur's mind, it was probably revealed the next baddie that Brainiac will team up, wether it be Darkseid or Mongul, but it must be someone that resides on another dimension, or there wouldn't be any use for the boom tube.

And really, if it is either of the two, Clark doesn't necessarily have to beat them. They could come to Earth at a young age, because they probably DO age, so then Clark would have equal power, and then the supervillain could bring in an army and have Clark deal with that, and Darkseid or Mongul, could realize that they might have made a mistake and leave and wait to return to Earth when they're older, wiser and more powerful.

[psyko69]

Clark shouldn't stand a chance against Brainiac either, but he holds on. I don't think Darkseid's power really matters. Clark will get lucky. Darkseid would just be cool to see in live action. That alone makes me love this show. I defiantly cannot fathom passing up a live action Darkseid.

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And if I remember correctly; in the first episode of S:TAS that Kara was in, she went to Apokalyps accidentally.

[Kal-El-073]

Yah...the crystal that Clark had, the one he used on Zod and Baern immediately sent them back to the Phantom Zone...much like MM's red crystal did to that phantom wraith in "Labyrinth". That crystal did have too much energy however, because of the energy Baern took from Brainiac which turned him into ash in "Fallout", so that's the energy that turned the Fortress back on.

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but where did you get the information that concluded that the crystal sent the Phantoms back to the Zone? I may be wrong, but the way I understood it, the crystal just absorbed their essence. If you look at the facts, the crystal didn't work on every Phantom, and if what you're saying is correct, then why wouldn't it have worked to send all of them back? Clark even told Martha after he killed Titan, that he didn't know how to send the Phantoms back. Surely if the crystal was capable of sending them back to the Zone then Raya would have told Clark, and he would have known, but he didn't

[ClarksGal]

Yah...the crystal that Clark had, the one he used on Zod and Baern immediately sent them back to the Phantom Zone...much like MM's red crystal did to that phantom wraith in "Labyrinth". That crystal did have too much energy however, because of the energy Baern took from Brainiac which turned him into ash in "Fallout", so that's the energy that turned the Fortress back on.

I don't think the crystal sent the Phantoms back to the PZ. The crystal originated with Raya, who used the crystal against Phantoms INSIDE the PZ. How do you send someone to where they already are?

[Timester]

Mongul wouldn't work on Smallville, they would have to change him alot. He is just a yellow powerful warlord with no connections to Motherbox technology (like the Boom Tubes).

No, if it is a Boom Tube, it has to be connected to the New Gods. And it would open the doors for the Intergang-Apokolips connection.

[IamProdigy]

And if I remember correctly; in the first episode of S:TAS that Kara was in, she went to Apokalyps accidentally.


Clark found Kara on her first appearance, but I think it was the next season in S:TAS that Kara found herself in Apokolips and fought that Granny Goodness chick, lol.


Maybe I missed it somewhere, but where did you get the information that concluded that the crystal sent the Phantoms back to the Zone? I may be wrong, but the way I understood it, the crystal just absorbed their essence. If you look at the facts, the crystal didn't work on every Phantom, and if what you're saying is correct, then why wouldn't it have worked to send all of them back? Clark even told Martha after he killed Titan, that he didn't know how to send the Phantoms back. Surely if the crystal was capable of sending them back to the Zone then Raya would have told Clark, and he would have known, but he didn't


Because the crystal only works with phantom wraiths. Aldar(from "Static"), Titan, they're not wraiths, they were in their natural bodies, hence why when Clark tried to use it on Aldar and he said, "I'm no phantom", so it only works with phantoms, meaning I assume when the prisoners with their bodies escape from the Zone, they must be killed, or you could open a Phantom Zone portal-way and send them through that way.

But, yes, I do think the crystal sends the phantom wraiths back to the Phantom Zone, and for more, read on...


I don't think the crystal sent the Phantoms back to the PZ. The crystal originated with Raya, who used the crystal against Phantoms INSIDE the PZ. How do you send someone to where they already are?


Jor-El made it, and he was the one who found the Phantom Zone, so of course he used it to capture phantom wraiths, and yes, when Raya used the crystal on wraiths that were attacking Clark, but yet, it DIDN'T send the already wraith back into the PZ because they were there, but it did shoot out a beam that kept the wraith away from Clark, but now that there were on Earth, that crystal is shown to now CAPTURE wraiths.

And also, if you no one believes me, then go look up some kind of fan site or even wikipedia's page about Smallville, and even that will say the crystal captures wraiths and sends them to the Phantom Zone.

[TheLeague]

:lol:....don't get me into trouble, NO offense to the Gala guy, BUT I was referring to the ORGINIAL poster's reply......"Where have B and K flown off to ?"....me just don't care.:p

possibly because its a major plot point and maybe the start of something awesome on smallville? :p

also after Veritas did any1 notice lately theres bin a-lot of reference about gods ?

isis = god
alot of biblical talk from lionel in veritas aswell as a few references

and dont forget darkseid is a new god so its all there :D

[LexLuv180]

I don't get it. Clark and Kara said Zod was destroyed, but I thought he just sent him back to the phantom zone? Why would brainiac need anyone's help? He's powerful enough by himself. Grrrrr