TV Ratings for Veritas

[ClarkyBoy14]

Discuss the television ratings for "Veritas."

Predix?

[savannah]

Hoping for at least 4 million

[JEWCY]

I know in USA Today, they incorrectly mentioned tonight's episode was the season finale, so it might pull some more people into the episode.

[Jack-El49]

I predict it will be about 4 million. With CW touting it as "Kara Teaches Clark to Fly", that should draw some past viewers who otherwise would have been on the sidelines.

[MidgardDragon]

I predict it will be about 4 million. With CW touting it as "Kara Teaches Clark to Fly", that should draw some past viewers who otherwise would have been on the sidelines.

Only people who looked at the online description or watch Space Channel will think he was going to fly. The majority of people would have just saw the trailer on the channel, and it never mentioned him flying.

Honestly I think all this flight talk was meant to be used as promotion for the episode when it was originally meant to be the finale, and he probably would have at least taken off in that case. I don't know why they *still* used the same promotion in some instances despite re-editing the episode.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm thinking 4 million too. The episode stated a lot of things that would make fans excited.

[bizzaroboy9]

sadly i have to disagree with you guys, i predict it will be either from 3.2 to 3.7 million viewers

[6-Super-Man -5]

Wow this is the first time, but I have to disagree with you on that one, I'm thinking either 3.6 to 4.1 million viewers.

[MidgardDragon]

I highly doubt it will go down from last week (what did that end up being, 3.4?), but I'm not sure if it will go up either.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I am hoping it will.

[bizzaroboy9]

^well we'll find out soon

[6-Super-Man -5]

Indeed we will... *waits*

[bizzaroboy9]

reasons that it will do well
1. lots of advertising in tv guide and newspaper (some said it was the season finale)
2. good trailer
3. had an excellent episode before it leading it to veritas
4. casts' interviews

[ClarkyBoy14]

The boards seemed pretty busy last night. Sometimes that's a good indicator.

OTOH, the competition was still tough and the CW as a whole is down from last week.

I'm hoping for at least 3.5, though.

[Eri-El]

reasons that it will do well
1. lots of advertising in tv guide and newspaper (some said it was the season finale)
2. good trailer
3. had an excellent episode before it leading it to veritas
4. casts' interviews

Which cast interviews?....I can't remember if I remember seeing any......:confused:

[Best Episode - 321]

The overnights are the same as the last few episodes. Expect viewership numbers to be in the range of the last couple episodes.

The CW duo Smallville (#5: 2.8/ 5) and the recently relocated Reaper (#5: 2.1/ 3), which is not an improvement from recent occupant Supernatural.

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Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.03 million

[JAMHEXXX]

Capping off the evening was CW duo Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.84 million; A18-49: #5, 1.5/ 5)

Best numbers in the last Four episodes.Final numbers could be over 4 million.

[Jack-El49]

You beat me to it. Yep, I hope the finals puts it over 4M. That would bode well for the final 5 episodes, IMHO.

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Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................3.84 million

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.03 million

Hopefully, SV is looking up. Last night had some killer competition with the finale of Celebrity Apprentice.

[LegendaryU2K]

Well as always please continue to spread the word and promote the show. Veritas was good, but not as good as traveler, kinda slow for some reason, not enough action.

But hey good thing the ratings went up!

[jimmyolsenblues]

Man less than 4 million is disappointing, this was a great episode.

copied from http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/218107111

"Capping off the evening was CW duo Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.84 million; A18-49: #5, 1.5/ 5) and the recently relocated Reaper (Viewers: #5, 2.76 million; A18-49: #5, 1.2/ 2), which is not an improvement from recent occupant Supernatural."

[Jack-El49]

It is disappointing but two silver linings: viewership up 400K from last week and those 400K hopefully saw the trailer for Descent. That alone should help with better viewership numbers. Now, all we need is for SV to continue hyping and promoting this episode.

I realize it's renewed for next year but going in strong would keep tptb at CW from considering ending the show prematurely next season to make room for some new lame show they think is just the dog's nuts.

[JEWCY]

It is disappointing but two silver linings: viewership up 400K from last week and those 400K hopefully saw the trailer for Descent. That alone should help with better viewership numbers. Now, all we need is for SV to continue hyping and promoting this episode.

I realize it's renewed for next year but going in strong would keep tptb at CW from considering ending the show prematurely next season to make room for some new lame show they think is just the dog's nuts.


:lol:

[SparkleforSmallville]

I'm happy it went up! 3.84mil is not bad. The Final should go up! Veritas was great, it set up some storylines and actually had all of the cast included. Even Shelby:)

[TheLastKryptonian]

Always remember that the Live +7 ratings always have a boost. For example Fracture had 3.67 million, but the +7 had 4.18 million and Persona went from 3.43 million to 4.34 million which makes a huge difference. Btw here's a comparison between overnight ratings and Live+7 ratings and as you'll see there's a HUGE difference.

Season 7 Week to Week (Live +SD) for first 12 episodes

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.43 million
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Here are the Live+7 ratings for the first 12 Episodes.

Bizarro............5.59 million
Kara................5.04 million
Fierce..............5.20 million
Cure................5.61 million
Action..............5.08 million
Lara................4.75 million
Wrath..............5.12 million
Blue.................4.90 million
Gemini.............4.05 million
Persona............4.34 million
Siren.................4.53 million
Fracture.............4.18 million

Live+7 Season Average - 4.87 million

[6-Super-Man -5]

3.84 million viewers? Better than "Traveler" now we'll have to wait and see "Descent" and hope for 4 million viewers.

[curiosity]

The overnights are the same as the last few episodes. Expect viewership numbers to be in the range of the last couple episodes.

The CW duo Smallville (#5: 2.8/ 5) and the recently relocated Reaper (#5: 2.1/ 3), which is not an improvement from recent occupant Supernatural.

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Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.03 million

I read the final for Traveler was a lot higher than that, on the TV ratings thread on the Travelor forum on this site actually. Are they correct?

[Chloe_is_my_Hero]

Breaks are never a good thing for ratings. Here's to hoping people tune back in!

[Best Episode - 321]

I read the final for Traveler was a lot higher than that, on the TV ratings thread on the Travelor forum on this site actually. Are they correct?


3.44 Million is the correct final viewer number.

Here's a link - pifeedback.com (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/132104011?r=509100111#509100111)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Breaks are never a good thing for ratings. Here's to hoping people tune back in!

The CW seemed to be promoting their scripted shows' returns pretty hard last night, and that will likely continue, so I guess we'll see.

[6-Super-Man -5]

The CW seemed to be promoting their scripted shows' returns pretty hard last night, and that will likely continue, so I guess we'll see.

Yeah it seemed like The CW did everything they could to promote their shows.

[JEWCY]

finals on pi say 3.86 with reaper at 2.78

[JAMHEXXX]

Smallville 2.4/4 1.6/5 3,860,000 1.6/5
Reaper 1.8/3 1.2/3 2,782,000 1.0/3

Woohoo an increase of a whole 20k viewers for the finals. That frakking sucks.

[MidgardDragon]

Yeah it seemed like The CW did everything they could to promote their shows.

I think they were promoting so much because it was during Smallville, though, and they get some of their most viewers during Smallville. Will they bother to promote Smallville during less-watched shows?

[bizzaroboy9]

so 3.86 is the final numbers?

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think its 3.84 million.

[ClarkyBoy14]

so 3.86 is the final numbers?

Yes.

[Jaderoyale]

Better than Traveler then it seems.
Good times.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think they were promoting so much because it was during Smallville, though, and they get some of their most viewers during Smallville. Will they bother to promote Smallville during less-watched shows?

Oh, probably. But the thing is that nobody will see them. In the next two weeks, the only shows that will get even over two million viewers are ANTM and FNSD and possibly SV repeats. :\

[MidgardDragon]

Considering last week was 3.4, a 3.86 is great, so I don't know what people are whinging about. This means that if we can sustain the numbers after the break, we'll be back to 4 million next week most likely.

[bizzaroboy9]

Considering last week was 3.4, a 3.86 is great, so I don't know what people are whinging about. This means that if we can sustain the numbers after the break, we'll be back to 4 million next week most likely.

^ don't you mean two weeks? :p

[GuardianAngel]

Actually it's nearly three weeks, not two. Descent airs on April 17th.

[bizzaroboy9]

well the week is almost over so there's about 2 weeks of repeat

[Jack-El49]

Considering last week was 3.4, a 3.86 is great, so I don't know what people are whinging about. This means that if we can sustain the numbers after the break, we'll be back to 4 million next week most likely.

I have high hopes that the numbers will increase. I think anyone who saw Veritas were treated to a reminder of just how good SV can be and the previews for Descent HAVE to draw people back.

[Dannyblue1]

I think anyone who saw Veritas were treated to a reminder of just how good SV can be

I'm sorry, but "Veritas" was not a great episode. It wasn't the worst episode ever, but you could just feel that huge chunks were missing. And nothing really happened. There was a lot of exposition, the introduction of some things that look like they might be interesting. But the episode itself was kinda flat and non-actiony.

Really, it felt like part one of a two-part episode. So I do think the stuff that was set up in "Veritas" will start to pay off in "Descent." But "Veritas" itself was kinda blah, and not the kind of ep that would wow and excite new or casual viewers.

[Darren5000]

The overnights are the same as the last few episodes. Expect viewership numbers to be in the range of the last couple episodes.

The CW duo Smallville (#5: 2.8/ 5) and the recently relocated Reaper (#5: 2.1/ 3), which is not an improvement from recent occupant Supernatural.

__________________________________________________ __________


Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.03 million

That doesn't seem too bad on the ratings, they seem a little higher then last year aren't they?

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I'm sorry, but "Veritas" was not a great episode. It wasn't the worst episode ever, but you could just feel that huge chunks were missing. And nothing really happened. There was a lot of exposition, the introduction of some things that look like they might be interesting. But the episode itself was kinda flat and non-actiony.

Really, it felt like part one of a two-part episode. So I do think the stuff that was set up in "Veritas" will start to pay off in "Descent." But "Veritas" itself was kinda blah, and not the kind of ep that would wow and excite new or casual viewers.

Maybe what was going to be in it when the strike was going on, maybe stuff was reshot and it wound up not being in the shot, the so called cliffhanger. Nobody knew where the strike was going, and the episodes of Smallville were getting very thin and close to the end by the time it was resolved. Smallville was the only show to me to stretch out their episodes. Supernatural is in a pickle as they ran out of stuff, they may have maybe 5 shots for their final or maybe 3, I don't know.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah I think the ratings are better than last year.

[MidgardDragon]

I'm sorry, but "Veritas" was not a great episode.

I'm sorry, but the fan voting disagrees with you. Or, since YOU like to state your opinion as fact, let ME do the same:

I'm sorry, but Veritas was a great episode and you are wrong.

[Dannyblue1]

I'm sorry, but the fan voting disagrees with you. Or, since YOU like to state your opinion as fact, let ME do the same:

I'm sorry, but Veritas was a great episode and you are wrong.

I wasn't stating my opinion as fact. Just saying, it wasn't a great episode. If some people liked it, great and fantabulous, and I wouldn't say they were wrong for loving it. They just had a different reaction than me. To me, the episode was blah, and I'm not wrong for not loving it.

As for fan voting, I've seen polls where "Ageless" was voted one of the bestest episodes ever. So, you see where I'm going with that.

And I'm sure changes made due to the writer's strike are to blame for the choppiness and lack of excitement.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I have high hopes that the numbers will increase. I think anyone who saw Veritas were treated to a reminder of just how good SV can be and the previews for Descent HAVE to draw people back.

We need more viewers!

[bizzaroboy9]

actually the rating is not as last year. hydro thru freak were in the 4 and 5 million range while persona thru veritas were in the 3 and 4 million range.

[Jack-El49]

I'm sorry, but "Veritas" was not a great episode. It wasn't the worst episode ever, but you could just feel that huge chunks were missing. And nothing really happened. There was a lot of exposition, the introduction of some things that look like they might be interesting. But the episode itself was kinda flat and non-actiony.

Really, it felt like part one of a two-part episode. So I do think the stuff that was set up in "Veritas" will start to pay off in "Descent." But "Veritas" itself was kinda blah, and not the kind of ep that would wow and excite new or casual viewers.

To each his/her own, I suppose. Yes, you could tell that it had been modified from the original season finale, mostly because we knew that in advance. However, tying in past season plot lines, incorporating continuity in actions and dialogue, and setting up the next episode are the finer points to which I was referring. And I'm equally sorry but that post never mentioned "great". It said that viewers were reminded of just how good SV can be.

How many new viewers begin watching a scripted drama in its seventh season and understand what dynamics exist and the cause-effect relationship that occurs in the actions of the characters? Very few.

I don't look at SV's purpose as being something to pull in new viewers. Instead, I see its purpose as keeping its core viewership and pulling back fans who might have lost interest last season or sometime this year. Over 5 million households watched SV twice this year. Good plots, good dialogue, good continuity and good acting pulls viewers back who may be following the season from afar.

[6-Super-Man -5]

actually the rating is not as last year. hydro thru freak were in the 4 and 5 million range while persona thru veritas were in the 3 and 4 million range.

Interesting...

[txluvstom]

Season average is 4.31 not 4.03.

[Aldo]

Who cares about the ratings people! We are getting a Season 8!! lol :p

[jazel]

mami jami, seems w/ every epi airiing, THINGS are going down hill.;(

[JAMHEXXX]

Lets compare last season to this one.



2007-2008
1.Bizarro............5.18 million*
2.Kara................4.59 million*
3.Fierce..............4.82 million*
4.Cure................5.18 million*
5.Action..............4.65 million*
6.Lara................4.38 million*
7.Wrath..............4.64 million*
8.Blue.................4.51 million*
9.Gemini.............3.71 million*
10.Persona............3.81 million*
11.Siren.................4.01 million*
12.Fracture..............3.67 million*
13.Hero...................3.81 million*
14.Traveler...............3.44 million*
15.Veritas.................3.86 million*


2006-2007

1.Zod......................4.96*
2.Sneeze.................4.52*
3.Wither..................4.88*
4.Arrow...................4.71*
5.Reunion...............4.79*
6.Fallout.................5.01*
7.Rage...................4.46*
8.Static...................4.70*
9.Subterranean........4.31*
10.Hydro..................4.68*
11.Justice.................5.26*
12.Labyrinth..............5.00*
13.Crimson.................4.91*
14.Trespass...............4.74*
15.Freak....................4.76*
16.Promise................4.69*
17.Combat................4.07*
18.Progeny...............3.98*
19.Nemesis..............3.88*
20.Noir....................3.59*
21.Prototype...........3.43*
22.Phantom............4.01


Smallville was actually doing better than season 6 until the strike came and all the trouble started.

Up till episode 9, Season 7 was pulling better numbers then Season 6!

[TheLastKryptonian]

Here are the Live+7 ratings for the 13 Episodes, Traveler will probably be released sometime soon and Veritas after that.


Bizarro............5.59 million*
Kara................5.04 million*
Fierce..............5.20 million*
Cure................5.61 million*
Action..............5.08 million*
Lara................4.75 million*
Wrath..............5.12 million*
Blue.................4.90 million*
Gemini.............4.05 million*
Persona............4.34 million*
Siren.................4.53 million*
Fracture.............4.18 million*
Hero..................4.40 million*

Live+7 Season Average - 4.83 million

So if you look at these ratings and not the overnight ratings, Smallville is doing VERY WELL this season and always gets MORE viewers! :eek:

[JAMHEXXX]

Top 20 Most % Time-shifted Broadcast TV Shows:

Rank Programs Network Persons Live+7 (000) Persons Live (000) Time-shifted Audience (000s) % Increase Over Live
1 REAPER CW 2,978 2,256 722 32.0%
2 LOST ABC 13,844 10,599 3,245 30.6%
3 SMALLVILLE CW 4,398 3,425 973 28.4%


Reaper did great, never realized they did so well with DVR usage.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/31/top-time-shifted-broadcast-shows-feb-25-mar-2-2/3128

[6-Super-Man -5]

Oh my, last year was way better than this year, why strike why?

[finalbahamut]

Smallville didn't do well lately. I thought it would at least reach 4 million. Veritas was a good episode..

[6-Super-Man -5]

It was a good episode.

[Best Episode - 321]

Live +7 numbers are here for Veritas

SMALLVILLE 4,385 million (Live+7).....3,435 (Live) .... 950 Time shifted Audience.... 27.7% (% Increase)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/04/14/largest-time-shifting-gain-for-broadcast-shows-march-24-30/3324

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Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................3.86 million*

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.28 million

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Live+7 ratings for first 15 episodes

Bizarro............5.59 million*
Kara................5.04 million*
Fierce..............5.20 million*
Cure................5.61 million*
Action..............5.08 million*
Lara................4.75 million*
Wrath..............5.12 million*
Blue.................4.90 million*
Gemini.............4.05 million*
Persona............4.34 million*
Siren.................4.53 million*
Fracture.............4.18 million*
Hero..................4.40 million*
Traveler.............4.13 million*
Veritas...............4.39 million*

Live+7 Season Average - 4.75 million

[ClarkyBoy14]

4.39 million is pretty good... and it improved from "Traveler"! :D

It's worth noting that SV was had the 2nd highest % percent change from the Live numbers to the L+7 numbers, SV was nineteenth in total DVR viewers, and SV once again beat ANTM on all counts (Live, DVR, and L+7 numbers).

Go Smallville! :D