Clark got ZAPPED by Kryptonite [means]

[litew8]

Reason enough to create a SUPERMAN suit to wear for protection!

[minerva73]

We can dream... ;) Martha needs to get her sewing machine ready in Washington. Maybe she can start sewing between one of her bill signings. :rotfl: :rotfl:

[litew8]

:lol:

I was thinking, damn Clark - see, that's why you need a suit.
Clark Kent always wear the suit (everywhere!).

[LexLuv180]

Yeah it would have come in handy this time, wouldn't it?

[litew8]

:lol: Yep. The tazers would have went "tink" "tink", then fell to the ground.
Clark would have went - "Duh, huh? What the?"

[jazel]

CK, has a VERY impressive tolerance, to the green-k !:lol:

[maryjanewatson]

CK, has a VERY impressive tolerance, to the green-k !:lol:
when it's convenient. :rolleyes:

[GuardianAngel]

^True. Last week he was knocked out by a small meteor rock. Last night he survived in a Kryptonite cage!!

[JustSuperMione]

Sorry to burst your lets see Tom in something tight bubble but...

Superman lore: the suit is just a suit. There is nothing special (apart from its icon nature) about Clarks suit.

The Superman suit appears to act in a super sheild way because there is the invisible field that eminates from Clark that the suit fits into. So where as bullets go dink, dink, dink. Kryptonite goes through.

[litew8]

Not that I want to see Tom in a suit - more like Clark Kent in character.

Give us some information that backs up your post.

[GuardianAngel]

If you take "Superman Returns" into account, that's true. Lex stabs Superman in the back with Green K and it does cut through Superman's costume.

[litew8]

Wasn't his suit made from a pieces of cloth (blankets) that came from Krypton.
His first costume made of Kryptonian fabric (from Birthright). Indestructable.

So there is something "special" about it.
Enough to have prevented him from getting zapped.

[GuardianAngel]

In the movies? Yes!

[Dor el]

I thought the suit was just a suit with no special attributes. But, there is an aura immediately surrounding Clark which emanates from Clark. It is this aura that protects his clothing. The protective barriers extends only a few cms around Clark's body.

[jimmyolsenblues]

too bad there are not blankets left over from when clark was shipped as a baby in the ship.

[Nerial]

I've never heard anything about the suit being able to protect Clark from danger, especially kryptonite. I'm not hot on the whole "aura" idea, but it's in the comics, and it does make sense to an extent. Clark is invulnerable because he has some type of super-powered aura surrounding his body; it lays a milimeter or two above his skin. That's why, when he gets shot, it bounces off. It hits the aura instead of him.

Hence the reason why the Superman suit is so tight.

...now, how the cape remains unharmed--I have no idea. In "Kingdom Come" by Alex Ross, the cape would always be the first thing to get destroyed in a fire because it isn't close enough to Superman's body to be protected by his aura.

Whether or not you buy into this idea, he's still getting hit by kryptonite tasers. If the suit is from Krypton, it would be vulnerable to kryptonite as well.

Even Batman once shot Clark with a kryponite bullet (Clark was under mind control), and it went through the suit like knife to butter, and into his back.

[Dor el]

The suit has been damaged too many times in too many Superman mediums to believe that the suit is indestructible. The source of the power is the man himself. I like it like this. If the blanket could be made into an indestructible suit, the material in the blanket would have to be indestructible. Then how would Martha even cut and sew it which would be necessary to make the suit in the first place?

[LexLuv180]

There's all sorts of theories. I've heard the one about the invisible force too, which causes his invincibility, and makes his suit protected. This obviously wouldn't work if he can rip off his outer clothes to reveal the suit underneath as Superman, and if the suit is damaged sometimes.

I don't buy the blanket theory always...how could a blanket make a huge suit like that? If a series of materials, maybe.

There's no telling.

[litew8]

too bad there are not blankets left over from when clark was shipped as a baby in the ship.What about the red blanket that he was covered in when Martha and Johnathan found him in the field? Maybe that was his red blanket.

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If the blanket could be made into an indestructible suit, the material in the blanket would have to be indestructible. Then how would Martha even cut and sew it which would be necessary to make the suit in the first place?Something to do with Clark cutting it with his heat vision. Superman has 2 different types of suits. One that was made out of indestructable material from Krypton, and copies that Martha makes for him.

:D

[Hopefulsuicide]

I always liked the simple idea of the suit

That it helped his disguise, cause people would just see the bright flashy colours, and the very nice tightness of his pants and they wouldnt recognise him as any normal man.

I never really liked the aura idea either, cause his cape is more than a few milimetres away from his skin, but more cases than not, it doesnt catch fire or anything.

I remember it did in one episode of season 1 of lois and clark, but then in season 4 it didnt... inconsistency!

[Dor el]

What about the red blanket that he was covered in when Martha and Johnathan found him in the field? Maybe that was his red blanket. :D

Wasn't that blanket yellow or am I getting mixed up with the Lois&Clark blanket?

[Hopefulsuicide]

the lois and clark blanket was blue lol

[Dor el]

OK. I just didn't remember a red blanket. The only time I remember seeing Clark's blanket in SV is just before the second meteor shower hit when Jonathan and Martha were loading up their truck. Martha ran back into the house to retrieve the blanket. Easy enough to check out. Can't do it right now. someone borrowed my season 4 DVDs.

[bigteep]

In all the other movies and tv shows Kryptonite was hard to find.
But in Smallville there's so much of it that people have to step over it in order to get anywhere.

[e1828]

The suit has been damaged too many times in too many Superman mediums to believe that the suit is indestructible. The source of the power is the man himself. I like it like this. If the blanket could be made into an indestructible suit, the material in the blanket would have to be indestructible. Then how would Martha even cut and sew it which would be necessary to make the suit in the first place?

Kryptonian metal like the Starblade that stabbed Clark in Talisman.

[Dor el]

Guess you're right. Anything Kryptonian can potentially hurt Clark, so it would stand to reason that Kryptonian items can hurt other Kryptonian items.

[Yasise]

^True. Last week he was knocked out by a small meteor rock. Last night he survived in a Kryptonite cage!!

:lol: So true :lol:


Sorry to burst your lets see Tom in something tight bubble but...

Superman lore: the suit is just a suit. There is nothing special (apart from its icon nature) about Clarks suit.

The Superman suit appears to act in a super sheild way because there is the invisible field that eminates from Clark that the suit fits into. So where as bullets go dink, dink, dink. Kryptonite goes through.

That's how it is, you're totally right!


........... Then how would Martha even cut and sew it which would be necessary to make the suit in the first place?

:rotfl:

[aXem]

In all the other movies and tv shows Kryptonite was hard to find.
But in Smallville there's so much of it that people have to step over it in order to get anywhere.

Maybe near the end of the show they can have something neutralize all of the kryptonite in smallville like the ship used to do.

Then you see a shot of Lex who still as a vault full of it from way back.


And yeah, the suit is just a suit.

The only thing that can protect superman from kryptonite is lead, I think.

[Kal el of krypton]

they made the suit from the krypton blanket, thats why i was shocked when clark destroyed the ship because i was wondering how the suit was going to be made.

There are other versions where martha made the suit.

And when the suit was made by the blanket, i read it somewhere when clark wears the suit the sun radiation goes into the suit that makes it indestructible. so when he isn't wearing it, its just a normal suit.

then i read somewhere else the suns radiation is always affecting the blanket so its always indestructible and clark helped with his heat vision to make the suit. :)

[litew8]

OK. I just didn't remember a red blanket. The only time I remember seeing Clark's blanket in SV is just before the second meteor shower hit when Jonathan and Martha were loading up their truck. Martha ran back into the house to retrieve the blanket. Easy enough to check out. Can't do it right now. someone borrowed my season 4 DVDs.oO That's interesting. I don't remember Martha running back inside to retrieve the red blanket. I'm pretty sure it was red.

[LexLuv180]

Maybe near the end of the show they can have something neutralize all of the kryptonite in smallville like the ship used to do.

Then you see a shot of Lex who still as a vault full of it from way back.


And yeah, the suit is just a suit.

The only thing that can protect superman from kryptonite is lead, I think.

Ooooh that was be brilliant. I never thought of that. I doubt they'll do it, but it would make Clark seem much more impressive if most of that Kryptonite were wiped out.

[Dor el]

oO That's interesting. I don't remember Martha running back inside to retrieve the red blanket. I'm pretty sure it was red.

You're probably right about the color. But she did run back into the house and when she came out she said something along these lines to Jonathan, "I can't believe that I almost forgot this [held up the blanket]." This happened right before Clark went into the barn where Lana was waiting with the bloodied stone. (Season 4 last epi.) :)

[litew8]

You're probably right about the color. But she did run back into the house and when she came out she said something along these lines to Jonathan, "I can't believe that I almost forgot this [held up the blanket]." This happened right before Clark went into the barn where Lana was waiting with the bloodied stone. (Season 4 last epi.) :)sweet! :)

[jazel]

Can somebody/anybody please explain to me, HOW CK actually "lived" to adulthood, in a town OVERFLOWING with green-k ?:lol:

[Yasise]

oO That's interesting. I don't remember Martha running back inside to retrieve the red blanket. I'm pretty sure it was red.

No, it was yellow and I know it for sure, because I always wondered why it was not red, so it got stuck to my mind. Does this sentence make sense now???

When Lara and Jor_el put him into the spaceship it was a yellow blanket.

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Can somebody/anybody please explain to me, HOW CK actually "lived" to adulthood, in a town OVERFLOWING with green-k ?:lol:

Yes, I was wondering about that all the time, too!
And how come that Clark got to know about the influence of kryptonite on him only because of Lana's Necklace and Lex's box???

But I remember that Martha asks Clark in "Leech" something like "Where can you find one of those meteor rocks?" as he wanted to get his powers back from that guy and Clark knew then, that he needed kryptonite for the transfer. And that's why he goes to Lana then to borrow her necklace.

So, maybe they weren't aware of so much kryptonite around them or the writers decided later on, that there must be more kryptonite in Smallville, in order to explain all those meteor freaks :confused:

So they slowly increased the amount of these green rocks during the ongoing seasons.

Nowadays Clark must feel sick all the time, when he's at home. Maybe a reason more for him to leave for Metropolis :confused:

[litew8]

No, it was yellow and I know it for sure, because I always wondered why it was not red, so it got stuck to my mind. Does this sentence make sense now???

When Lara and Jor_el put him into the spaceship it was a yellow blanket.

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You are right Yasise, Kal-El is wrapped in a yellow blanket on Krypton:
http://images.wikia.com/smallville/images/0/02/Sv319Baby_Kal_El.JPG


I was almost right, it is a darker color - but it looks more like a quilt or something.
Is this what Martha ran inside to grab?
http://images.wikia.com/smallville/images/6/68/Smallville_s01e01_115.jpg


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On another note, you should read what I just updated in the first
post of my thread in "Hero"! Some good stuff!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86543

It's strange I tell ya! It explains Lana to a T!

[Yasise]

I was almost right, it is a darker color - but it looks more like a quilt or something.
Is this what Martha ran inside to grab?
http://images.wikia.com/smallville/images/6/68/Smallville_s01e01_115.jpg


- - - - - - -
On another note, you should read what I just updated in the first
post of my thread in "Hero"! Some good stuff!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86543

It's strange I tell ya! It explains Lana to a T!

First, no, Martha ran back to th ehouse to grab that yellow one, not this brown one in that picture above.

Next: I just read your update and wow, I don't hope that this comes true in the next episodes: Isis betrayed Ra so she could help Orion.

Poor Clark, if it does come true, but actually it would explain the lack of passion between them since her return in firece. And Clark also told Chloe that he feels a change in Lana, that she's a darker side in her now.
So maybe Lana is a clone and we don't know yet or she = Isis is really still in love with Lex = Orion and is helping him to betray Clark = Ra.
:confused:

[litew8]

:lol: (Isis)
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You are saying that Martha actually did grab the YELLOW blanket from the house? Cool!

[Yasise]

:lol: (Isis)
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You are saying that Martha actually did grab the YELLOW blanket from the house? Cool!

Yes, she came out of the house with that yellow blanket in her hands and said: "I don't believe that I almost forgot to take this...." or something like that.
Season4, last episode, exactly that scene, mentioned above, before Clark went into the barn and met Lana there.

[litew8]

^ Cool. Sounds like they made it a point to show us that Martha actually "kept" the yellow blanket. Sounds like reasoning for something. Otherwise, why else would they intentionally show us that.

[HalJordan4184]

There have been TWO origins of Superman's costume. It's either been just a costume, with no special attributes, like it originally was, and then again after the post crisis revamp, or it was made of Kryptonian material's and was completely indestructible.

The Kryptonian Materials costume, has nothing to do with the yellow sun. That's only for Clark's powers. Inanimate objects, do not carry out complex biological processes. Clark's body absorbs, and uses and converts solar radiation into usable energy. When he comes to a yellow sun environment, it augment's his own natural abilities, and grants him new ones because of the vast difference in the type and amount of energies he's absorbing, compared to a red sun environment. A blanket, rock, piece of metal, or anything else, is not converting solar energy into usable energy for nutrition like a Kryptonian person is. They are merely denser because of the high gravity of Krypton, and the alien nature of their origin. It has nothing to do with the sunlight. Even if it has been explained as that before, and like it is on Smallville, it still makes absolutely no sense, and is beyong the realm of suspension of disbelief.

Even if he has an indestructible costume however, does not mean it acts as a radiation shield, and will prevent him from being injured. It just means the suit itself won't be destroyed. If i put kryptonite next to Clark, while he was wearing the indestructible version of the costume, and shot him, while the costume wouldn't tear, Clark would still suffer the effects of being shot. THe suit will bend, and stretch, but that's it. It isn't armor.

As for how it was made, they unravelled Clark's baby blankets, leaving a long pieve of thread. Clark then cut this with concentrated heat vision, and martha helped him stitch it together. THey used a only the blanket material, and I believe a kryptonian piece of metal fashioned into a needle. When they did this, Clark only ever had one costume, and it never got dirty, or anything, so he never needed to replace or change it.

The other costume, is the plain old spandex one. Martha made this one for him. This is where the aura thing comes in. Contrary to popular belief, Superman is invulnerable. He is not protected by an invisible impenetrable forcefield. Every being has a bio electric aura, thanks to the energy produced by our cells. Clark's is slightly different, and grants a degree of resistance to tight clothing and the like. However, it does not make his clothing totally invulnerable, nor is it the source of his own invulnerability. An impenetrable shield like some people are talking about, would also leave Clark unable to actually touch anything, or feel anything.

When Clark had this costume, he had a ton of them, as Martha made plenty of spares, and he needed them, as serious fights, or major disasters, would soil, stain, or even tear and burn his uniforms. His capes were especially easy to damage, as they weren't protected at all.

Then there is the Birthright thing, which still makes no sense. He has a costume made out of his blankets from the rocket, which are "semi" indestructible, so he still needs martha to make more costumes, but from spandex, which, when he wears it, is just as "semi" indestructible, as the regular kryptonian fabric costume.

[Dor el]

Yasise, thank you so much. Litew8 had me thinking I was as loony as Lex. I thought the blanket in season 4 epi 22 was yellow, but about to be convinced that it was red. Was driving me nuts. I couldn't check it out myself because my DVDs are loaned out.

[litew8]

Yasise, thank you so much. Litew8 had me thinking I was as loony as Lex. I thought the blanket in season 4 epi 22 was yellow, but about to be convinced that it was red. Was driving me nuts. I couldn't check it out myself because my DVDs are loaned out.Sorry Dor el
:D I should have thanked you first - since you are the one that mentioned Martha and the yellow blanket initially. You were right. :D

[Yasise]

Yasise, thank you so much. Litew8 had me thinking I was as loony as Lex. I thought the blanket in season 4 epi 22 was yellow, but about to be convinced that it was red. Was driving me nuts. I couldn't check it out myself because my DVDs are loaned out.

You're welcome, Dor el :D

[Hopefulsuicide]

anyone have screenshots of the blanket he was wearing in the flashbacks of lineage

just trying to figure out where the idea of a red blanket started... although i suppose it could be the one he was wearing in fever

[litew8]

anyone have screenshots of the blanket he was wearing in the flashbacks of lineage

just trying to figure out where the idea of a red blanket started... although i suppose it could be the one he was wearing in feverCouldn't find any images of the blanket from "Lineage". I think I have S4 last episode recorded. I'll check later.

Meanwhile - I never realized that the tattoo Lana had on her back is actually the same symbol that was on one of the crystals. Why would that be?

Missing stone (Commencement):
http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/Commencement042219.jpg

Lana's tattoo (Commencement):
http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/Commencement04222.jpg

[Yasise]

anyone have screenshots of the blanket he was wearing in the flashbacks of lineage

just trying to figure out where the idea of a red blanket started... although i suppose it could be the one he was wearing in fever

Maybe because of the red blanket, which Lois gave him in "Crusade" (S4, Ep1), when she finds him in that field as Kal-EL.
Or the red blanket, Jonathan and Martha wrapped around him, after the miraculous healing of Clark's wound in "Talisman" (S3, Ep20).

Maybe there were more examples, but I recall only these two at the moment. But his baby blanket was definetly the yellow one :)


Couldn't find any images of the blanket from "Lineage". I think I have S4 last episode recorded. I'll check later.

Meanwhile - I never realized that the tattoo Lana had on her back is actually the same symbol that was on one of the crystals. Why would that be?

Missing stone (Commencement):

Lana's tattoo (Commencement):


I'll watch "Lineage", too, after this post ;)

And to the stone:
All I know and understood is, that this was ment to be the symbol of the element "water" and at the same time, it was also seen on the tomb of Isobel's grave. Lana got the tattoo, as she touched it, as you surely remember.
And yes, this symbol was on the black crystal, too, which I read somewhere, was also called the "stone of transference".
So, Lana "transfered" into Isobel and back again, after she got that tattoo. And, as we all know, Lionel "transfered" into Clark's body and viceversa with the help of this stone.

Soo this symbol means obviously both: water and transference, maybe because water can change into so many different forms (ice, water, vapour, hydrogen) either?

Of course only my try to explain it, maybe I'm totally wrong???

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Sooo, I've just watched "Lineage" and the blanket was the brown one. Actually it seemed to be the same blanket, that Clark had on his shoulders in "Fever" when he came onto their house's porch, before Jonathan drove away to the Lab to find the spaceship's key.

[litew8]

I understood your explanation of the tattoo and stone, I just don't understand why Lana would be branded with that tattoo if it is a Kryptonian sysmbol - or why Isobella would be affiliated with it.

We know when they went to China, the stone that was there had the \8/ on it.
Not the same as the tattoo. So, I don't know.

[Yasise]

I understood your explanation of the tattoo and stone, I just don't understand why Lana would be branded with that tattoo if it is a Kryptonian sysmbol - or why Isobella would be affiliated with it.

We know when they went to China, the stone that was there had the \8/ on it.
Not the same as the tattoo. So, I don't know.

I don't know it for sure either, but as far as we know, Isobel was obsessed with the stones, too. She wanted to find all the three stones to get the knowledge, who was promised to the one, who would reunite them.
Obviously kryptonians, maybe Clark's grandgrandfather (???) came to earth in Isobel's time and left the stones there for Clark.
And as the great witch Isobel was, she obviously got to know about the transference stone and she focused on it in order to be able to save herself and her "sisters" into Lana's time. Maybe it was part of the spell to have this symbol on her tomb.

And as Lana was a relative to Isobel, she maybe was "destined" to find her tomb and touch that symbol in order to be the "vessel" for Isobel.

So, I hope I did answer your questions? But actually I'm confused as you are, maybe my answer doesn't make sense at all.

[berniepooh]

Each of the symbols on the three stones had a meaning. The meaning of the one that was also Lana's tat was "water".
Does anyone remember the meanings of the other two?

[Twitch]

Each of the symbols on the three stones had a meaning. The meaning of the one that was also Lana's tat was "water".
Does anyone remember the meanings of the other two?

The other two were the Crystal of Air (that's the one with the "eight" symbol that looks like the Superman "S") and the Crystal of Fire. When all three were put together it formed the Crystal of Knowledge, which created the Fortress.

[smallvillelogan]

We can dream... ;) Martha needs to get her sewing machine ready in Washington. Maybe she can start sewing between one of her bill signings. :rotfl: :rotfl:

I would really love to see them stay true to the comics in that regard and let the audience see Martha create his suit... but with a new twist in how Clark has already gotten his cape, I don't know if Martha making his suit will happen for this show. The scene where Clark gets his cape from Christina Milian already indicates that the writers' version of Clark getting his suit will be different.

[litew8]

Sooo, I've just watched "Lineage" and the blanket was the brown one. Actually it seemed to be the same blanket, that Clark had on his shoulders in "Fever" when he came onto their house's porch, before Jonathan drove away to the Lab to find the spaceship's key.Am I confused, or is it now understood that the Yellow blanket does not exist? Only the brown/blue/purple/red blanket exists?

[jazel]

Lana's tattoo (Commencement):
http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/Commencement04222.jpg

very "crude" Kryptonian, for NOT THE ONE...keep looking.:lol:

[Yasise]

Am I confused, or is it now understood that the Yellow blanket does not exist? Only the brown/blue/purple/red blanket exists?

Dear litew8, no need to be confused, I'll explain it to you ;)

The blanket Clark came to earth with and which was in his spaceship (his baby blanket, so to speak), was a yellow one.

But when Martha and Jonathan found him in "The Pilot", she wrapped that cute little boy into a brown/darkgrey blanket, she probably had in their car.

But there was never a red one in the spaceship.

Those red ones appeared later throughout the seasons in a few episodes, like e.g. "Crusade" (Lois gave it to him, after she found him as Kal-El in that field), or "Talisman" (his parents wrapped him into a red blanket while waiting for him to recover)

So, I hope this "blanket confusion" is solved now?

[litew8]

Yasise, I understand there was never a "red" blanket.
At first, I thought the purple/blue/red (you say it is grey) balnket was "red", I was wrong.



Originally Posted by litew8 http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3662728#post3662728)
oO That's interesting. I don't remember Martha running back inside to retrieve the red blanket. I'm pretty sure it was red.

RE: Originally Posted by Yasise http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3662728#post3662728)
No, it was yellow and I know it for sure, because I always wondered why it was not red, so it got stuck to my mind. Does this sentence make sense now???


But you said that the "yellow" blanket existed after he landed.
Just to be clear, the "yellow" blanket only existed on Krypton, and not Earth, correct?

[Yasise]

But you said that the "yellow" blanket existed after he landed.
Just to be clear, the "yellow" blanket only existed on Krypton, and not Earth, correct?

No, the yellow blanket was in the spaceship and it came to earth with Clark. And when he got out of his spaceship, it must have probably fallen to the ground and Martha obviously found it near by the ship and kept it.

BTW I always wondered, how that boy fit into that not so big spaceship *lol* It seemed to be only big enough for the baby Kal-El, but definetly too small for a 4 (?) year old boy. But o.k., never mind that now, back to our "blanket" .....

In the finale of season 4, there is that scene, where Jonathan and Martha are packing their truck because they want to leave Smallville before that second meteorshower hits the town.

The last thing Martha gets out of the house is that yellow blanket, and she says "I can't believe I almost forgot this".
It's the scene before Clark says, that he can't come with them, because he has to find the stones and put them together in the caves and then he goes to the barn first, where he meets Lana, who gives him the stone, she had. :)

I've got a screenshot of Martha with that yellow blanket in her hand in that scene, but I don't know, how to put it in here, sorry.

[litew8]

Okay. The YELLOW BLANKET DOES actually exist.
It is shown:

1) In a flashback. With baby Kal-El and his space ship.
2) In Smallville (Commencement - S4 Finale). Martha grabbed it before the meteor shower hit.

So for all of those following along -
the INDESTRUCTABLE Kryptonian YELLOW BLANKET DOES IN FACT EXIST on Earth.

:D :D :D

[Yasise]

Okay. The YELLOW BLANKET DOES actually exist.
It is shown:

1) In a flashback. With baby Kal-El and his space ship
2) In Smallville (Commencement - S4 Finale). Martha grabbed it before the meteor shower hit.

So for all of those following along - the YELLOW BLANKET DOES EXIST on Earth.

:):):)