"I love your son!!"

[aqgalaxy]

Are you reading what I'm reading, because those two posts contradict each other.

First you said it's platonic, then you backtracked and said you voted for romantic because it's more than platonic.

I guess you can't read english...


I watched this scene about 5 times, it shows more then Friendship love, so more then Platonic. Sort of sad that people are doing their hardest to try and demean it.

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lol im sorry but i see no contradiction...you should go back and read it again

Thank you. :D

[jazel]

Chloe was pleading for the life of her beloved friend. Very noble indeed.:)
It was cool, how Jor-el restored Kara's power.

[theotherJane]

lol im sorry but i see no contradiction...you should go back and read it again

You are so right! I just read it again. It's been a long day. Sorry, aqgalaxy.
I'm off to bed!

[aqgalaxy]

I'm not sure, and I don't think it even matters. Whether it was platonic or romantic, Chloe did a brave thing. She showed her devotion and loyalty to Clark, and she spoke to Jor-El from her heart.

Its no surpise that she loves Clark, but I do believe the declaration, to Jor-El, at the FOS has a lot of meaning. It was a powerful moment for her, and the show. And I think knocking it because its not your ship is....well, unfortunate :\
I love you

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You are so right! I just read it again. It's been a long day. Sorry, aqgalaxy.
I'm off to bed!
It's ok
*hugs, kisses forehead and tucks you in* :D

[theotherJane]

I love you

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It's ok
*hugs, kisses forehead and tucks you in* :D

Nighty Night! :)

[harryandginnyfanatic]

If Chloe was really devoted to Clark she would've used her own power to restore Kara's memory.

[Odysseus]

Platonic. You know why?

Because knowing the way AlMiles usually are, if they'd wanted it to be "romantic" (or at least the Smallville version of "romantic" lol) they would have probably had tears streaming down her face with some overly emotional kelly clarkson/carrie underwood-type song blaring in the background lol.

From what we saw, Chloe just seemed to be saying it in a "he's my brother/best friend" kind of way.

[Vergon6]

In Star Trek: The Next Generation, there is a memorable quote by Guinan talking about her bond with Picard. It's cryptic, and could be interpreted to mean romantic love, but there was no indication they ever were in love. So it is suggestive a profound bond. Perhaps of love, but not of romantic love like we understand it. I think the same may apply to Chloe at this point, although her romantic feelings for Clark may always be buried inside her.

"Guinan: "Did he ever tell you why we're so close?"
Riker: "No."
Guinan: "Oh. Then let me just say that...our relationship...is beyond friendship, beyond family. And I *will* let him go. And you must do the same."

[miks]

I don't get how she could've used her power to restore Kara's memory. Or is that a joke?

[lillie_poo_pod]

WTF ???

How would Chloe be able to use her power to restore Kara's memory? She heals people who are hurt, dying, or dead. Not memory loss.

[RedKRules]

If Chloe was really devoted to Clark she would've used her own power to restore Kara's memory.

I didn´t know Chloe had the power ...... seriously .... :lol::lol:

[harryandginnyfanatic]

A while back it's what some fans were actually theorising would happen.

Gonna have to add that to the 'List Of Anti Mytho Theories That Didn't Happen'.

I know, long title. :lol:

[miks]

I just don't get how anyone could think Chloe has that type of power. Yeah I guess it's fine to speculate because who the f knows how Chloe's power works, but who honestly thought that would happen? Maybe I just don't see it. Someone explain how?

[litew8]

Chloe said she "loves his son", she didn't say
she was "in love with his son".

Big dfference.

[Vergon6]

Chloe said she "loves his son", she didn't say
she was "in love with his son".

Big dfference.
That's true but the semantics will be debated until the end of the show I suspect.

[gameface25]

how in the hell does this have 514 replies.....

[aqgalaxy]

In Star Trek: The Next Generation, there is a memorable quote by Guinan talking about her bond with Picard. It's cryptic, and could be interpreted to mean romantic love, but there was no indication they ever were in love. So it is suggestive a profound bond. Perhaps of love, but not of romantic love like we understand it. I think the same may apply to Chloe at this point, although her romantic feelings for Clark may always be buried inside her.

"Guinan: "Did he ever tell you why we're so close?"
Riker: "No."
Guinan: "Oh. Then let me just say that...our relationship...is beyond friendship, beyond family. And I *will* let him go. And you must do the same."
Yeah but the show never really dived into their friendship.

[curiosity]

Chloe said she "loves his son", she didn't say
she was "in love with his son".

Big dfference.

The difference is she had just said she'd "Climb Mt. Everest to save him", that's a romantic love declaration.

[SteveS]

Platonic friends don't go around telling opposite sex buds that they love them and it is completely unnecessary when asking Jor-El for help for Clark. The AI, or whatever he/it is, fully recognizes the concern that Chloe had for Clark in coming to the Fortress.

It may have sound platonic to the ever-hopeful fans of the missing (and un-named/un-missed) one, but in truth, Chloe would climb Mt. Everest to save ClarkMan because she loves him and the love is neither platonic nor buddy-to-buddy. Little Jimmy is merely a back-pocket boy but first in her heart is ClarkMan.

She is still the super-girl of this series, even if she can't leap a tall building in a single bound.

[litew8]

The difference is she had just said she'd "Climb Mt. Everest to save him", that's a romantic love declaration.Uh, no.
She went there to tell Jor-El that she cares for Clark and understood that Jor-El sent Clark to Earth and wished for the Humans to protect him. She was saying that she "loves him", not that she was "in love with him", and that she was trying to protect Clark - just like Jor-El wished some selective few would try and do.

Chloe convinced Jor-El that she cares, and she was trusting.
She wanted to protect / save Clark.

Chloe - Please Jor-El! Trust me! I care for your son!
Help me help your son! Restore Kara's memories/powers!

[SteveS]

Uh, no.
There is still no need to tell Jor-El that she 'loves' or is 'in love' with ClarkMan. That sounds either like a political candidate or a kid trying to split hairs. If it was purely platonic, she could have clarified it as such and it still would have been as silly as a political candidate trying to parse words.
She said it, it is a declaration of one very hetero young woman to the 'parent' of one very hetero young man.

Did Chloe want to 'protect/save Clark'? Absolutely. She volunteered to go to the ends of the Earth twice right in a row to save ClarkMan. First Mt. Everest, then the North Pole. Not the stuff of buddies.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

What was this thread about originally? Did it get merged?

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Chloe convinced Jor-El that she cares, and she was trusting.
She wanted to protect / save Clark.

Chloe - Please Jor-El! Trust me! I care for your son!
Help me help your son! Restore Kara's memories/powers!

Chloe: Help me Obi Wa.. er Jor El. You're my only hope. :lol:

[curiosity]

Uh, no.
She went there to tell Jor-El that she cares for Clark and understood that Jor-El sent Clark to Earth and wished for the Humans to protect him. She was saying that she "loves him", not that she was "in love with him", and that she was trying to protect Clark - just like Jor-El wished some selective few would try and do.

Chloe convinced Jor-El that she cares, and she was trusting.
She wanted to protect / save Clark.

Chloe - Please Jor-El! Trust me! I care for your son!
Help me help your son! Restore Kara's memories/powers!

You totally ignored what I just said in my post. BEFORE she went to the FOS, she said she'd climb Mt. Everest if it meant saving Clark. You don't climb Mt. Everest for "friend love". That's something more than friend love. Something that strong means she feels more for Clark and feels a deeper love than just friend love. And I'm not even a Chlarker.

[litew8]

Uh, no.
There is still no need to tell Jor-El that she 'loves' or is 'in love' with ClarkMan. That sounds either like a political candidate or a kid trying to split hairs. If it was purely platonic, she could have clarified it as such and it still would have been as silly as a political candidate trying to parse words.
She said it, it is a declaration of one very hetero young woman to the 'parent' of one very hetero young man.

Did Chloe want to 'protect/save Clark'? Absolutely. She volunteered to go to the ends of the Earth twice right in a row to save ClarkMan. First Mt. Everest, then the North Pole. Not the stuff of buddies.

You're right. She should have remained neutral.

Uh, Jor-El. Clark is okay. I think he is "nifty".
Let me make myself more clear - I don't "love" him, but heck, he's in danger.
Come on Jor-El, do you think you could help us out here.
Like, uh, we don't have many options.
Whatever, help me help your son or - whatever.

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You totally ignored what I just said in my post. BEFORE she went to the FOS, she said she'd climb Mt. Everest if it meant saving Clark. You don't climb Mt. Everest for "friend love". That's something more than friend love. Something that strong means she feels more for Clark and feels a deeper love than just friend love. And I'm not even a Chlarker.Well - she knows what Clark represents. How many lives he's saved. How important he is.

What do you think she'd say about someone else -
Chloe - nah, I'm not going to try and save their life. Not woth my time.

:confused:

She knew Jor-El was hoping that Clark would find people on Earth that cared for him. Protected him from evil. That is what Chloe was essentially saying she was doing. She cared a great deal for Clark -Clark needs help - but she needed him (Jor-El) to help her (with Kara).

[Vergon6]

Yeah but the show never really dived into their friendship.
That it is true, I will give you that one. It is possible it was a romantic declaration, but the point I was trying to get across with that quote was that is possible to also have a profound bond with someone and love them, without still being gah-gah over them. If it is a romantic declaration, it is confusing considering it looks like she is getting back together with Jimmy.

[Lostfan588]

WHOA. This poll sure made a big turn around in my absence! LOL YESSSSSSS!!!!!!! MWAHAHAAA!!!!!

[sabi908]

WHOA. This poll sure made a big turn around in my absence! LOL YESSSSSSS!!!!!!! MWAHAHAAA!!!!!
dude no surprise there.... this site is infiltrated by Chlarkers...it's impossible to conduct a poll where the results dont favor Chlark.

[meggy]

lots of pages to read...but I thought to add my two cents:

It was a sweet moment...but why should we choose whether it was platonic or romantic? I think there was a healthy dosage of both in there. But, IMO the more important thing, is that it was love that brought Kara back-all kinds of love.

Love between Clark and Kara
Love between Clark and Chloe
Love between Chloe and Kara
and...as much as Jor-El might not want to admit it: love from him for his family. If he cared nothing at all, he would have left Clark to suffer and left Kara to continue to be clueless about who she really is.

It's all about love, and the strength that it carries.

[CloisLaneKent]

Seriously, this is basically a 'Chlark' site, so of course the polls will favor Chloe or Chlark.

[Lostfan588]

I also like that it seems as though Chloe and Kara will become better friends now. But it will be akward if/when (more than likely imo) Chimmy start dating again...lol

[Clarkgirl8]

Chimmy start dating again...lol Sssssssh don't say that!!!! :lol:

Im thinking Kara will become a chlarker now... does she remember what happened there tho?

[aqgalaxy]

Seriously, this is basically a 'Chlark' site, so of course the polls will favor Chloe or Chlark.

Honestly, I thought it was a Clois site...

[Hounshell]

we all do.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Funny thing.

I actually thought that they'd deliberately left Lana out of the FOS scene so that Chloe would heal Kara and Lana wouldn't know that Chloe had a power.

Can you imagine Lana forcing Chloe to come to Isis meetings. She'd make her start wearing pink like her so they could be twins.

[sabi908]

Honestly, I thought it was a Clois site...
Devoted i believe is more of a Clois site....K-Site on the other hand is all out for Chlark

[Clarkgirl8]

Funny thing.

I actually thought that they'd deliberately left Lana out of the FOS scene so that Chloe would heal Kara and Lana wouldn't know that Chloe had a power.

Can you imagine Lana forcing Chloe to come to Isis meetings. She'd make her start wearing pink like her so they could be twins.
:confused: i thought Lana knew... and i thought Chloe actually went to Isis Foundation to learn how to use her powers... im confused now :lol:

[harryandginnyfanatic]

:confused: i thought Lana knew... and i thought Chloe actually went to Isis Foundation to learn how to use her powers... im confused now :lol:

Me too.

Dontcha just hate when that happens. :lol:

[Lostfan588]

Sssssssh don't say that!!!! :lol:

Im thinking Kara will become a chlarker now... does she remember what happened there tho?

I really wish Kara would remember Chloe's line...:lol: but don't know if she does. I think Chloe/Jimmy will get back together though- or at least date a couple times. I could picture Clark giving his squash Jimmy looks and be like "but she wants Jimmy" as an excuse and then Kara be like 'but she does love you, you know its so obvious'.....but I can't see that happening, until Lana's gone or they split up.

I think the problem with Chloe and Clark is that neither knows how the other feels/felt after the "Vessel" kiss since Chloe cut Clark's speech short by defense mechanism.

[do3mire]

I didn't read any of the spoilers so it came as a big surprise to me. "I love your son". Like WOW! And, this thread at 500+ posts. Since AlMiles and the writers are known to check the episode forums after an episode airs, I think this thread sends a pretty powerful message. They pushed a button, that's for sure.

CHLARK!!! Oh, on-topic. Platonic or romantic? Both I think. And I think the writers meant it that way.

[Clarkgirl8]

Me too.

Dontcha just hate when that happens. :lol: I actually do :lol: but i hate Offscreenville even more!! :rotfl:

[Lord_Balthaazar]

All you need is love, love is all you need..

[Clarkgirl8]

I could picture Clark giving his squash Jimmy looks and be like "but she wants Jimmy" as an excuse and then Kara be like 'but she does love you, you know its so obvious'.....but I can't see that happening, until Lana's gone or they split up.

I think the problem with Chloe and Clark is that neither knows how the other feels/felt after the "Vessel" kiss since Chloe cut Clark's speech short by defense mechanism.
Oh i could take some Clark jealousy that's for sure...

Stupid defense mechanism... We need a scene like the one we had in Zod... no Jimmy this time

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Since AlMiles and the writers are known to check the episode forums after an episode airs, I think this thread sends a pretty powerful message. They pushed a button, that's for sure.
I dont know why i keep picturing them with an evil laugh looking at the screen... :rotfl:

[erikamichelle614]

did you guys pick that up!!!!!! it was so cute to hear her say that!

[Odysseus]

Can you imagine Lana forcing Chloe to come to Isis meetings. She'd make her start wearing pink like her so they could be twins.

:rotfl:

I just got the funniest mental image of that. :lol:

[Super_Kara_2007]

I wasn't hard to miss. It was very sweet. Jor-El is a Great Father. He didn't have Chloe make a Deal with him any of that. His son was in trouble and he did what ever it took to help Clark.

[jazel]

There are already 2 threads about this, ONE is on it's 7th page.:lol:

[do3mire]

I dont know why i keep picturing them with an evil laugh looking at the screen... :rotfl:


Hehe! I know what you mean.

[Lostfan588]

Yeah it was adorable. Not really a spoiler though, cuz there's like alot of thread about this already...but if you want a spoiler from it I will say it's yet again another line foreshadowing...CHLARK!!!!!:p

[Chloe82]

I guess what amuses me the most is that anyone could question the romantic quality of her love at this point. She loves him wholly, in a way that no one else in his life (save his parents, biological and adoptive) has ever loved him. She loves him for who he is, the way he is, and even when she didn't know his secret she never pushed him to tell it or be someone he's not the way everyone else did. Even after she learned it she has protected it and him, going so far as to almost die for what she knows, and actually dying to save him regardless of the fact she might not be able to come back from it that time.

I love my friends, but can I say honestly say I love them like that, that much? I don't know. I've never been tested in any such way.

Chloe is his best friend, his protector, the best guardian of his secret he has ever had, and he really needs to wake up and see that. For real this time.

Cassie

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

:rotfl:

I just got the funniest mental image of that. :lol:


Me too it would be like Tina Greer on reverse...She might even try to teach her how to wispher :lol:

[Khyla]

I guess what amuses me the most is that anyone could question the romantic quality of her love at this point. She loves him wholly, in a way that no one else in his life (save his parents, biological and adoptive) has ever loved him. She loves him for who he is, the way he is, and even when she didn't know his secret she never pushed him to tell it or be someone he's not the way everyone else did. Even after she learned it she has protected it and him, going so far as to almost die for what she knows, and actually dying to save him regardless of the fact she might not be able to come back from it that time.

I love my friends, but can I say honestly say I love them like that, that much? I don't know. I've never been tested in any such way.

Chloe is his best friend, his protector, the best guardian of his secret he has ever had, and he really needs to wake up and see that. For real this time.

Cassie

i couldn't agree more! :)

[jazel]

Chloe is his best friend, his protector, the best guardian of his secret he has ever had, and he really needs to wake up and see that. For real this time.

Cassie
But won't it break your heart, that he doesn't and never will ?:(
Lois Lane is his ONLY wife, there is NO mention, of a Chloe Sullivan.

[LexLuv180]

I'm not sure. I know she loves him as a friend and person. I think she still has romantic feelings, too, but knows it will never happen.

[Lostfan588]

there is NO mention, of a Chloe Sullivan.

No mention of a Chloe Sullivan? HUH. That's not what Chloe Sullivan said....:lol:

[Khyla]

But won't it break your heart, that he doesn't and never will ?:(
Lois Lane is his ONLY wife, there is NO mention, of a Chloe Sullivan.

and ppl who feel the way you do are the ones who came up with the CHlois Theory. and i can understand now why they did.

[jazel]

dude no surprise there.... this site is infiltrated by Chlarkers...it's impossible to conduct a poll where the results dont favor Chlark.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
HOPE my MD, has a antidote for that afflicition:lol:

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and ppl who feel the way you do are the ones who came up with the CHlois Theory. and i can understand now why they did.
Chlois theory.... we WORSHIP Chloe Sullivan.... BUT IF it's revealed she is actually Lois Lane, we'll take that too ?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
make up your minds, you can NOT have both !:lol:
IF you really love Chloe Sullivan, than the Chlois "theory", is null and void.:p:lol:

[Lostfan588]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

IF you really love Chloe Sullivan, than the Chlois "theory", is null and void.:p:lol:

ER, not really. Chloe being as awesome as she is is the main reason why people -well myself at least- identify w her as the ILL in this version...But I'll save all that for another thread.

What's awesome to me at least is yet again Chloe gets to be in one of the most important episodes of the series, and most 'iconic' moments that have a profound impact on Clark's fate.

Maybe I just like to hear the Superman music playing in the background during her scenes, compared to circus tunes...I don't know what it is....

[Chloe82]

But won't it break your heart, that he doesn't and never will ?:(
Lois Lane is his ONLY wife, there is NO mention, of a Chloe Sullivan.

It WILL break my heart if Clark has to wind up with a snide, useless dimwit by the name (and name only) of Lois Lane. He's got a very hard life ahead of him, if that's the case.

However, I don't see how it's my fault that Chloe embodies all the qualities of Lois Lane while the supposed Lois Lane doesn't. So "correct" name or not, she still fills that place in Clark's life and hopefully always will. If you want to blame someone for that embodiment, then find your way to the writer's room. I just have a brain, eyes, and ears, and whether they make the right decision in the end is totally up to them.

Cassie

[Khyla]

Of course having to rely on butane to fuel Chimmy's embers only means that eventually the artificial source of heat will run empty and flicker out:cool:.
GREAT POST! :D


Yeah, totally, and Clark said earlier in the season shouldn't his girlfriend know him better than anyone. They didn't give that role to Lana either. They gave it to Chloe. So as blind as Clark is, it's just so funny they keep giving Chloe all the important scenes/lines like this that should be the role of the girlfriend.
AGREE!


the Chlark interaction has been slightly off, and we're getting moments of overprotectiveness from Clark, and lines like this from Chloe. So hey whatever, all I know is I have to watch the rest of the season now. LOL
yup! :)


They didn't need that line IMHO. Chloe saying "He's My Best Friend! I Care for him! This world needs him blah blah" but to say "I Love Your son" It's foreshadowing something.
it did stand out. She didn;t say it or mean it in a romantic way, nor did she say "I'm in love with your son" . but the fac that she said I LOVE YOUR SON was something stronger than simple strong care and friendship / If it was Pete going to the FOS, to beg Jorel to give Kara back her powers to save Clark, he would NOT have said "I love your son, he would have added "like my own brother" . Likewise Chloe could've added like my own brother" to her sentence.
I could see it coming up in conversation w/Kara wher she tells Clark that he's so lucky to have pp; in his life that love him so dearly. and when Clark remarks that he's not so sure about Lana anymore, she would say i wasn't talking about Lana . i was talkin about CHloe, surely you know.....

[harryandginnyfanatic]

And there was me thinking that the Anti Lois Campaign Theory had nothing to do with shipping Chlark.

How wrong I was.

[Chloe82]

Maybe I just like to hear the Superman music playing in the background during her scenes, compared to circus tunes...I don't know what it is....

Oh, if there was a high five smilie here, you would be getting a post full of them from me right now. ;)

Cassie

[Khyla]

Chlois theory.... we WORSHIP Chloe Sullivan.... BUT IF it's revealed she is actually Lois Lane, we'll take that too ?
make up your minds, you can NOT have both !:
IF you really love Chloe Sullivan, than the Chlois "theory", is null and void.

You obviously totally misunderstood me. It's the ppl who feel so strongly about the Mythos such as yourself, that they cannot see past it who are the very ones who felt they needed to invent the Chlois Theory .

(they are not anti-Lois they are so head over heels pro-Lois that they can only accept that CHloe must be Lois)

I myself don't have a problem with just Chlark, Soulmates for ever and ever, like it said on that tree. (it also said "Live for that day") I actually like the ring to "Clark and Chloe" much more than "Lois and Clark" (Lois is a weird old-fashioned name. I think the name CHloe is prettier)

[do3mire]

What's awesome to me at least is yet again Chloe gets to be in one of the most important episodes of the series, and most 'iconic' moments that have a profound impact on Clark's fate.


Hmmm!! Why do they keep doing that? I wonder. ;)

[Lostfan588]

*vomit"....there is no, Chloe vomit button....God does she make me want to hurl 111....i LOVE CLARK KENT, no surprise there, you useless, skanky *****es....lol.....it's ALL about YOU, isn't it ?


:rotfl:Whoa, relax, take a chill pill, sista! Chlark's not going to happen. It's not a threat, right? So, no need to get so upset! :p

[chlark=destiny]

*vomit"....there is no, Chloe vomit button....God does she make me want to hurl 111....i LOVE CLARK KENT, no surprise there, you useless, skanky *****es....lol.....it's ALL about YOU, isn't it ?

Aww Jazel, sweetheart, you know I love ya, but you got to let the Chlarkers rejoice a little LMAO!:rotfl:

[Kel-El09]

Why does everybody freak out?? Everyone can like the couples they want to like..I mean we all know how it's going to turn out, so how people feel until then shouldn't matter that much.

[Khyla]

......i LOVE CLARK KENT, no surprise there, you useless, skanky *****es....lol.....it's ALL about YOU, isn't it ?

well, don't have a heart attack or anything :lol: but. Yes, actually, the show pretty much is about just her(and Clark) , a lot of the time. :D AND I USED TO FIND HER CHARACTER VERY ANNOYING in the early years, but as she's grown into the kind of women a Superman could admire and respect, (and love) she's grown on me as well. :)

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[Kel-El09]

I agree...way to put it. I didn't really like Chloe as a potential "candidate for Clark" until season 5. Until then, she just seemed annoying, and childish, and didn't really know who she was. Now she's smart and selfless, and knows what she wants.

[lillie_poo_pod]

*vomit"....there is no, Chloe vomit button....God does she make me want to hurl 111....i LOVE CLARK KENT, no surprise there, you useless, skanky *****es....lol.....it's ALL about YOU, isn't it ?

Damn, can you calm the hell down. It's not that damn crucial.

You got your little hug, now let us have our declaration of love.

[Lostfan588]

well, don't have a heart attack or anything :lol: but. Yes, actually, the show pretty much is about just her(and Clark) , a lot of the time. :D AND I USED TO FIND HER CHARACTER VERY ANNOYING in the early years, but as she's grown into the kind of women a Superman could admire and respect, (and love) she's grown on me as well. :)

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Yeah, ironically I used to think Chloe was annoying too (esp in season 1 and 3)...especially that hair, and crazy clothes! LOL

But you're right, it is to a large part about Clark and Chloe...Core four and all...I don't know about the series as a whole but this season Clark and Chloe have the #1 and #2 screentime, Chloe's is even above Lex and Lana's which is kind of weird.

[Kel-El09]

Who?

[Khyla]

As far a the poll goes: I voted "Platonic"

But i must point out that i think it was meant to come across very strong. deeper than love of a friend, more like love of a child or parent... or spouse. And she didn't say. "welove Clark, nor did she just say I love Clark, or I love Kal-El. There was a profoundness to saying "your son".

Look at it this way: If Clark were going to Gabe to tell him CHloe was in danger and needed his help and said "Trust me... I love CHloe", that would not be as profound as him saying "trust me... I love your daughter" . ya see what i'm sayin? idk

[ginnyfan]

Oh my gosh. I'm sure everyone knows that I'm like 118% in love with Chimmy but...

That was goose bump inducing-ly powerful! The fact that Chloe's love for Clark activated the fortress... that was just so BEAUTIFUL! Oh my gosh! It's like all the years... all the years that Chloe has loved Clark in one way or another culminated to this beautiful moment.

This is kind of silly but it's one of those things that's so powerful, it transcends petty. Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.

But it's that deep deep soul love, I'd do anything for you and you owe me nothing in return powerful powerful love. I'm just staggered. I'm so happy. :D

The combination of that and watching Clark get tortured real good... has wiped the Smallville slate clean for me. I'm just so blissful right now.

I don't know what's to come. I'm still hoping to SEE Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date.

But if Chlark's on the horizon... that's cool. I don't want to even get a whiff of Chlark until Clark is single though...

But man oh man... Chloe is magical. She's just... she's Sam to Clark's Frodo.

That's not to discount the romantic angle at all, though so Chlarkers grin from ear to ear. I am!

:D

[Kel-El09]

that makes sense...it's more intimate.

[Lostfan588]

Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.


:D

You sure have some enlightening (and slightly creepy) analogies ginnyfan! :rotfl::p

[Clarkgirl8]

^i know! :lol: it was nice what you said ginnyfan... i think :p :rotfl:

[Kel-El09]

I like how into it ginnyfan gets. I completely agree..it was a total MAGICAL moment (even though i'm a 100% hardcore lana fan)

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

I want to ask a question as non shipper so don't freak out:
Is it posible that the fortress is programed to respond to love?
I mean Lara on Memoria expresed her fear that her son might not be loved is it posible that Jor-El did something to make sure that if Kal-El got in danger and someone that loved him went for help it will listen?
And If that is so what does that means for Chloe now that the fortress know?

[Kel-El09]

I don't know..that would bring up some questions. It responded to Bizzaro when he came (even though it didn't like him)

[LexLuv180]

Truthfully I don't think Jor-El cares much about human love and thinks Clark's feelings for those around him has been holding him back now that he is older. I'm sure he wanted love for Clark as a child and good upbringers, but he's said a few times now that Clark is putting his feelings first too much. I don't agree with his philosophy, of course, but believe Jor-El feels that way.

[Lostfan588]

I want to ask a question as non shipper so don't freak out:
Is it posible that the fortress is programed to respond to love?
I mean Lara on Memoria expresed her fear that her son might not be loved is it posible that Jor-El did something to make sure that if Kal-El got in danger and someone that loved him went for help it will listen?
And If that is so what does that means for Chloe now that the fortress know?

I don't know, but I think it's cool that Jor El had a plan, and that Chloe so happened to get this power that she can resurrect over and over again during that very same meteor shower, and yeah her relationship with Clark does all lead up to this moment where she tells Jor El Clark was brought here for a reason and that she loves him, and to this Clark's life is saved (if Chloe hadn't declared her love and gotten Kara's memory back, the freak hater would have killed Clark and there'd be no Superman). It's like it was all meant to be! Coolness!

[chlark=destiny]

Oh my gosh. I'm sure everyone knows that I'm like 118% in love with Chimmy but...

That was goose bump inducing-ly powerful! The fact that Chloe's love for Clark activated the fortress... that was just so BEAUTIFUL! Oh my gosh! It's like all the years... all the years that Chloe has loved Clark in one way or another culminated to this beautiful moment.

This is kind of silly but it's one of those things that's so powerful, it transcends petty. Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.

But it's that deep deep soul love, I'd do anything for you and you owe me nothing in return powerful powerful love. I'm just staggered. I'm so happy. :D

The combination of that and watching Clark get tortured real good... has wiped the Smallville slate clean for me. I'm just so blissful right now.

I don't know what's to come. I'm still hoping to SEE Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date.

But if Chlark's on the horizon... that's cool. I don't want to even get a whiff of Chlark until Clark is single though...

But man oh man... Chloe is magical. She's just... she's Sam to Clark's Frodo.

That's not to discount the romantic angle at all, though so Chlarkers grin from ear to ear. I am!

:D

Aww Ginnyfan, it's sooooo refreshing to see a Cloisier and Chimmy fan appreciate and admire a beautiful Chlark moment!:)

[Super_Kara_2007]

Do any of you think that there's a chance that there could be a Chlark relationship in Season 8? They both keep being mentioned together in many recent episodes like when Lex said in "Hero" of how Chloe was still crazy about Clark. Plus Chloe just told Jor-El in Traveler", "I Love your Son." Chloe could have said, "Clark is my Best Friend". But instead she chose to say those words.

[shy175223]

nope. it was sweet but that was definitely no forshadowing of Chlark...:rolleyes:

[Mary Sullivan]

Ahh it was so beautiful....she loves him, she would climb the mount everest for him...i can't wait to watch season 8!!!! :D

[Ayanne]

The circumstances of Chloe's words are HUGE!! This is iconic material!! YES!!!

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Aww Ginnyfan, it's sooooo refreshing to see a Cloisier and Chimmy fan appreciate and admire a beautiful Chlark moment!:)

Chlark moment? :confused:

They had not one scene together in the entire episode.

[Kel-El09]

I think they mean it's a chlark moment because chloe expressed her love for clark. Even though it wasn't to him, it signifies that they still have feelings for each other, obviously making the chlark fans very happy.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

And just like the Fever letter, only we the audience know what she said.

Kara doesn't remember. And I doubt Jor El is gonna go chat with the other ghosts of heroes fathers about it.

Mufasa: She said she loved him?
Jor El: Yep.
Hamlet's Dad: Far out, dude.
Anakin Skywalker: You're lucky. At least your kid never kissed his own sibling.

[Chloelicious]

I think they are platonic. . .but she wouldn't have said that if Lana was there. . .

[Dustmite]

*vomit"....there is no, Chloe vomit button....God does she make me want to hurl 111....i LOVE CLARK KENT, no surprise there, you useless, skanky *****es....lol.....it's ALL about YOU, isn't it ?

Oh, yes Chloe saving Clark is all about her :rolleyes:

It's amusing the way that so many people are finding so many ways to demean what Chloe said and what her words prompted. Not a big moment? One of the biggest in the series IMO.

[jazel]

me thinks, you guys put TOO much importance in it, CAUSE that's all they are giving you.:lol:
that, AND the fact Chloe Sullivan exsists only to be an accessory to HIS story.:lol:

[Dustmite]

me thinks, you guys put TOO much importance in it, CAUSE that's all they are giving you.:lol:

No. It's because it is important.

I don't tell you to calm down or how to rate the importance of a scene. Why do you feel the need to do so with us? Maybe people should actually talk about the scene and not about other posters.

[Twitch]

Mufasa: She said she loved him?
Jor El: Yep.
Hamlet's Dad: Far out, dude.
Anakin Skywalker: You're lucky. At least your kid never kissed his own sibling.
:rotfl:

[jazel]

No. It's because it is important.

how ? or better yet, WHY ? :lol:

[litew8]

how ? or better yet, WHY ? :lol:
Because the writers are dumb dumbs.
They like to tease the viewers.

http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/gangster_bling_teeth_grey.gif

[Jack-El49]

nope. it was sweet but that was definitely no forshadowing of Chlark...:rolleyes:

I agree - no foreshadowing here. I felt that it was stated as a fact rather than a plea. I don't think it's a surprise to anyone and I think it's too late in the series to crank up a Chlark relationship.

[MeKa]

Because the writers are dumb dumbs.
They like to tease the viewers.

http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/gangster_bling_teeth_grey.gif

That's right. And we're stupid enough to come back for more. Atleast I am.:(

[litew8]

^ Nah.

[aqgalaxy]

Do any of you think that there's a chance that there could be a Chlark relationship in Season 8? They both keep being mentioned together in many recent episodes like when Lex said in "Hero" of how Chloe was still crazy about Clark. Plus Chloe just told Jor-El in Traveler", "I Love your Son." Chloe could have said, "Clark is my Best Friend". But instead she chose to say those words.

You are absolutely right.

[Dustmite]

how ? or better yet, WHY ? :lol:

Because I found it to be so. What is your problem with that?

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

nope. it was sweet but that was definitely no forshadowing of Chlark...:rolleyes:
You got that right. That ship set sail a long time ago and it has long since reached it's destination of the phantom zone, never to return.
Chloe could strip down completely naked and run around Clark dancing the Hully Gully and Clark would still not even know she's alive. :lol:

Chloe is permanently and forever stuck in friend land. Once Lana is gone we all know who Clark will be pining over next. I'll give you a hint: she's in my profile pic.

[petitemimi]

Chloe Sullivan exsists only to be an accessory to HIS story.:lol:

Well, Clark has been an accessory in Lana's story for 7 years so, nice change of pace for once, since he's the star of the show.

I think Chlark is the most beautiful relationship in this show, romantic or not.

[Dor el]

I think Chlark is the most beautiful relationship in this show, romantic or not.

With this statement I can agree. It's pure. It's simple. It's unconditional. Both ways I think. At least from where I sit.

[AChloeChick]

Romantic or platonic? It doesn't really matter one way or the other to me because it was one of the most moving and touching scenes for SV. And it followed her, "To save Clark, I'd climb Mt. Everest!" comment earlier (which is an interesting contrast to Lana's "I'll kill Lex," comment).

It also doesn't matter if she said, "I'm in love with your son," verses "I love your son," either. The fact is she DOES love him -- she always has and she always will.

Let's go back to when Clark said "I still love her," about Lana in Labyrinth. He didn't say in love, he said love. Yet most of us knew exactly what he meant (that coming from someone who doesn't ship Clana).

Honestly, I find no difference here. She meant what she said just as Clark meant what he said.

Anyway, Chloe's feelings for Clark have been addressed in the past several episodes by Lana (you need to let him go), Lex (the women we love are infatuated with Clark Kent) with Pete and Jimmy's hearing, and Clark (what you did for me goes way beyond friendship).

Also, Chloe's reaction(s) to BizClark and Lana leaving SV spoke volumes. Her facial expressions when she heard that . . . she was devasted.

It is what it is. Some see it one way, while others see it another way. One thing for sure: TPTB know how to keep us talking/debating when it comes to SV.

[Dor el]

Don't they though?

[Krypton935]

Soo most definitly romantic! Chlark will last forever!!!!
That line was Saweetah!

[Kalista]

Platonic friends don't go around telling opposite sex buds that they love them and it is completely unnecessary when asking Jor-El for help for Clark. The AI, or whatever he/it is, fully recognizes the concern that Chloe had for Clark in coming to the Fortress.

It may have sound platonic to the ever-hopeful fans of the missing (and un-named/un-missed) one, but in truth, Chloe would climb Mt. Everest to save ClarkMan because she loves him and the love is neither platonic nor buddy-to-buddy. Little Jimmy is merely a back-pocket boy but first in her heart is ClarkMan.

She is still the super-girl of this series, even if she can't leap a tall building in a single bound.

Nice post SteveS…as usual.

IMO it has been very clear since the beginning that there are lingering romantic feelings. The series has been pretty consistent in emphasizing this.

One instance sticks out in my mind. The Chimmy breakup in Crimson.

Jimmy: Can you really tell me that if you had the choice, you wouldn't rather be with him?
[Chloe looks at him uneasily, pausing just a little too long to respond.]

Chloe: Of course not. You're my guy.
[Jimmy looks back at her, seeing the truth in her face.]

Chloe: [ Indignant ] Now you don't believe me. Well, I don't know what else to say.

Jimmy: Well, I think that's the point. Neither of us do. You know, maybe we should take a break.

Chloe: Jimmy, I...

I haven’t seen anything on the show that would lead me to believe the lingering attraction and romantic feelings are completely gone.

Jimmy asked Chloe if she could honestly admit that if she could choose between being with him or Clark, she would choose Clark. The camera focused on Chloe’s reaction as she hesitated before giving one of the most unconvincing replies since Clark’s, “Me neither” in Zod. Chloe loves Clark in every sense and that includes romantic love. She will always have those feelings within herself and TPTB go out of their way to emphasize that with her facial expressions and things that she says to herself (and to the audience).

[do3mire]

Oh my gosh. I'm sure everyone knows that I'm like 118% in love with Chimmy but...

That was goose bump inducing-ly powerful! The fact that Chloe's love for Clark activated the fortress... that was just so BEAUTIFUL! Oh my gosh! It's like all the years... all the years that Chloe has loved Clark in one way or another culminated to this beautiful moment.

This is kind of silly but it's one of those things that's so powerful, it transcends petty. Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.

But it's that deep deep soul love, I'd do anything for you and you owe me nothing in return powerful powerful love. I'm just staggered. I'm so happy. :D

The combination of that and watching Clark get tortured real good... has wiped the Smallville slate clean for me. I'm just so blissful right now.

I don't know what's to come. I'm still hoping to SEE Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date.

But if Chlark's on the horizon... that's cool. I don't want to even get a whiff of Chlark until Clark is single though...

But man oh man... Chloe is magical. She's just... she's Sam to Clark's Frodo.

That's not to discount the romantic angle at all, though so Chlarkers grin from ear to ear. I am!

:D

Thanks, Ginny. This thread needed this. You're right about Chloe's love. It is transcendant. And, I'm with you. I think it'd be damn interesting to see Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date now. :)

[go_clo]

Romantic or platonic? It doesn't really matter one way or the other to me because it was one of the most moving and touching scenes for SV. And it followed her, "To save Clark, I'd climb Mt. Everest!" comment earlier (which is an interesting contrast to Lana's "I'll kill Lex," comment).

It also doesn't matter if she said, "I'm in love with your son," verses "I love your son," either. The fact is she DOES love him -- she always has and she always will.

Let's go back to when Clark said "I still love her," about Lana in Labyrinth. He didn't say in love, he said love. Yet most of us knew exactly what he meant (that coming from someone who doesn't ship Clana).

Honestly, I find no difference here. She meant what she said just as Clark meant what he said.

Anyway, Chloe's feelings for Clark have been addressed in the past several episodes by Lana (you need to let him go), Lex (the women we love are infatuated with Clark Kent) with Pete and Jimmy's hearing, and Clark (what you did for me goes way beyond friendship).

Also, Chloe's reaction(s) to BizClark and Lana leaving SV spoke volumes. Her facial expressions when she heard that . . . she was devasted.

It is what it is. Some see it one way, while others see it another way. One thing for sure: TPTB know how to keep us talking/debating when it comes to SV.
WORD!!! I totally agree!!! :D

[Kalista]

Oh my gosh. I'm sure everyone knows that I'm like 118% in love with Chimmy but...

That was goose bump inducing-ly powerful! The fact that Chloe's love for Clark activated the fortress... that was just so BEAUTIFUL! Oh my gosh! It's like all the years... all the years that Chloe has loved Clark in one way or another culminated to this beautiful moment.

This is kind of silly but it's one of those things that's so powerful, it transcends petty. Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.

But it's that deep deep soul love, I'd do anything for you and you owe me nothing in return powerful powerful love. I'm just staggered. I'm so happy. :D

The combination of that and watching Clark get tortured real good... has wiped the Smallville slate clean for me. I'm just so blissful right now.

I don't know what's to come. I'm still hoping to SEE Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date.

But if Chlark's on the horizon... that's cool. I don't want to even get a whiff of Chlark until Clark is single though...

But man oh man... Chloe is magical. She's just... she's Sam to Clark's Frodo.

That's not to discount the romantic angle at all, though so Chlarkers grin from ear to ear. I am!

:D

This is a beautiful!:D

[LoveHurts38]

Friendship love.

[Hopefulsuicide]

definately didnt seem like it was meant in a romantic way

but she is still in love with him, thats bloody obvious.

[Joelito]

Yeah, don't let your "platonic" dream of Chlark blind you....


Platonic. Friends say that about eachother

If there were a romantic, where is the "nice-to-see-you-kiss"?

[Humdinger]

I don't think her love is platonic, but I do think it's hopeless because Clark will never see Chloe as anything but a sidekick in this series. I don't think too many friends would say they'd climb Everest for someone. The scene in the fortress was just superb. Romantic love gets blurted a lot, and for once someone wrote a line that was absolutely right for the situation. This is exactly the kind of admission that comes out in desperate situations.

The Clark/Chloe situation really irks me, though, and I don't ship anyone. TPTB don't pay any attention to anything else in the mythos, so why not have them get together, even if they don't stay together in the end. That is one ship I'd like to see, even if it's only for a little while.

[aqgalaxy]

Oh my gosh. I'm sure everyone knows that I'm like 118% in love with Chimmy but...

That was goose bump inducing-ly powerful! The fact that Chloe's love for Clark activated the fortress... that was just so BEAUTIFUL! Oh my gosh! It's like all the years... all the years that Chloe has loved Clark in one way or another culminated to this beautiful moment.

This is kind of silly but it's one of those things that's so powerful, it transcends petty. Do you know what I mean? It's like Lord of the Rings love. Where... you know, Sam carrying Frodo up the mountain... analyzing whether or not they are gay lovers kind of... you're kind of missing the point.

But it's that deep deep soul love, I'd do anything for you and you owe me nothing in return powerful powerful love. I'm just staggered. I'm so happy. :D

The combination of that and watching Clark get tortured real good... has wiped the Smallville slate clean for me. I'm just so blissful right now.

I don't know what's to come. I'm still hoping to SEE Chloe and Jimmy's coffee date.

But if Chlark's on the horizon... that's cool. I don't want to even get a whiff of Chlark until Clark is single though...

But man oh man... Chloe is magical. She's just... she's Sam to Clark's Frodo.

That's not to discount the romantic angle at all, though so Chlarkers grin from ear to ear. I am!

:D

First it was the Clana fan (another poster), now it's you the Chlimmy fan...

It all just makes me smile... :D
I agree

[Kal el of krypton]

Was i the only one a bit disappointed that Terence stamp wasn't in the episode for the voice of Jor el. when they showed the fortress of solitude and then you just hear the loud noise after chloes speech , i put the volume to full thinking that Jor was going to speak but then i knew he wasn't gonna happen. :(:mad:

still loved the episode though lol

[aqgalaxy]

Was i the only one a bit disappointed that Terence stamp wasn't in the episode for the voice of Jor el. when they showed the fortress of solitude and then you just hear the loud noise after chloes speech , i put the volume to full thinking that Jor was going to speak but then i knew he wasn't gonna happen. :(:mad:

still loved the episode though lol

I know the feeling, but then, what is Jor-El gonna say? "Thank you, come again"?

[Hopefulsuicide]

i like the idea that she is sam to clark's frodo

although i'm hoping superman will not need that much help to become who he is supposed to be...

[Chlarker2008]

When i was watching it, i could not believe what Chloe said, but i really didnt know if she meant as a lover or a friend. But, when i read AChloeChick comment i know now what she meant. I really do think that Chloe is in love with Clark.

And she will always be. I just wish that someone was there so they could tell Clark what she said.

[thehenry89]

I know the feeling, but then, what is Jor-El gonna say? "Thank you, come again"?

:lol: i probably would've died if he did.

[Stephen Robinson]

Well, if I had to choose which episode Terence Stamp would "appear" in, it would have been this one, rather than "Persona" -- some flashing lights to indicate that Bizarro wasn't welcome and then the ice melting for Clark -- no real need for Stamp's voiceover, especially when Clark pretty much later spells out what had happened.

This episode though would have benefitted more from Jor-El responding to Chloe.

[All about Clark]

Chloe loves Clark with her whole being, I don't think it matters whether it is platonic or not. Chloe accepts the relationship Clark has given her and cherishes every moment with him. It really doesn't need to be romantic for it to be meaningful. It's a clean love without all of the intanglements that come with the romantic. She loves him the same as Martha did. And it was beautiful. But we shouldn't let this mean romantic Chlark is more desirable.

[Kel-El09]

Yeah..I agree..I think it's beautiful, and I like their relationship where it's at. We know that Chloe loves him, and that's all that matters. Clark and Lana loved each other and went for it, and look how they ended up. I think admitting her love to clark would only cause problems for their friendship.

[JorEl23]

I dreaded seeing the reactions to these "teases" the Goughlars put in this episode involving Chloe. I knew the second she said "she'd climb Mt Everest"...or how Lana wasn't with her and Kara at the Fortress or the infamous "I love your son" line, suddenly the masses would interpret it as the next Smallville wedding episode was forthcoming.

The bottom line is part of her will probably always have romantic feelings for him since she crushed on him so hard early on and I think most women who have seen what he is capable of are attracted even moreso. However, this was a platonic comment and reading into any of these elements is wishful thinking, nothing more.

I like the Sam/Frodo parallel myself: deep and true FRIENDSHIP that is necessary to accomplish a tremendously difficult task of destiny.

[Kalista]

Many of the same people who are insisting that Chloe's statement is based on platonic love have also insisted in previous posts just how much Chloe LOVES Clark. Now, because Chloe has verbalized what the show has presented to the audience all along, some want to immediately dismiss it. It doesn't make any sense.

[JAMHEXXX]

Who really cares that Chloe said it. Everyone that watches Smallville already knew it. It was not some kind of great reveal. Chloe LOVES Clark.......... well DUHHHHHH!!!!!

[Lostfan588]

Why can't every episode be this good. Seriously. While Chloe's "love" line, is definitely up for interpretation, I don't think however she said it matters at this point, because there is no doubt that Chloe loves Clark and her love for him is completely selfless (So it's interesting they have her say it now) . She would die before she'd ever betray him, she would go to the ends of the earth (the North Pole, Mount Everest) for him. At this point, while I think there have been many signs other than this one line to show that Chloe still has feelings for Clark, I also agree with those who say that Chloe has let the idea of romantic Clark go for now. It's probably the last thing on her mind.

Now what is interesting about Chloe's "I love your son" line is that- you know how at the beginning of the season, Al and Miles say they come of with an arc of the main things that must happen? Well Chloe going to the fortress, and both her and Chloe representing the two sides of "ISIS" must have been one of them.

Remember the speech they give Chloe in "Wrath". She tells Lana about ISIS being the goddess of "life, love, and healing" who "marched to the ends of the earth to jumpstart the man she loved". Chloe says that this is the kind of loyalty in his life, but that she is not sure it it'll be from Lana. Then, when Lana says she would do anything for Clark, Chloe says "even kill". Chloe then says that ISIS is also the goddess of the underworld, who was responsible for bringing the god Ra to his knees. Chloe ends the speech saying she is not going to let that happen.

Well this episode Lana tells Lionel she will "kill" if Clark is harmed, while Chloe says that she would "climb Mount Everest" for Clark, and Chloe even travels to the North Pole to jumpstart the man she- "love"s. Chloe's also the one with the healing power.

So the writers foreshadowed Chloe and Lana being the two sides of ISIS several episodes, and followed through on it. Maybe some people think it means nothing important overall in the series arc in regards to what Chloe will mean for Clark at the end, but I happen to think it means she is the other side of ISIS, who will be the one to overcome the version that brings Clark to his knees. I also thinks this goes back to Labyrinth's, Clark to Chloe: "You mean alot more to me than you know"

[Superchica1203]

yeah i agree with you about why lana had to be excluded from that scene but i would've still loved to see her face!!LOL

[GuardianAngel]

Who really cares that Chloe said it. Everyone that watches Smallville already knew it. It was not some kind of great reveal. Chloe LOVES Clark.......... well DUHHHHHH!!!!!

It was like the re-invention of the wheel! Gosh! Chloe loves Clark! Surrprrriiisseee!!!

[Dor el]

I really don't care whether the love between Chloe and Clark is romantic or platonic in either direction. I like that it is a genuine, lasting, "I'd die for you" kind of love. Both directions. Chloe and Clark have had a few minor rifts between them, but by and large their relationship has lasted for years, even though it has had some pretty major revelations to deal with. Other loves have waxed and waned, been conditional, intermittent, vindictive, emotionally costly, shallow, etc. Chloe/Clark love truly transcends them as individuals, and binds them together in such a way that builds each of them up. It is a beauty to behold. In my starry eyed opinion.

[clarkbunny]

I know the feeling, but then, what is Jor-El gonna say? "Thank you, come again"?

Ha ha ha, oh too funny :rotfl:

I was completely thrown by Chloe's comment, it just came out of no where. I am not entirely sure whether it was a platonic statement or a romantic one but it seems a bit of an odd thing to come out with off the cuff for it to not have a deeper meaning.

Yes, we knew all along that Chloe has always loved Clark deep down but she had accepted that she would never be more than his friend. Also she really seemed to be getting on with her life with Jimmy. That statement confirmed to me that she was in denial about her true feelings for him - she may enjoy being with Jimmy but she would get with Clark in a heartbeat if there was a chance of that happening. Jimmy can see that himself which is why he feels threatened by her relationship with Clark.

As for Clark - I have always believed that he is infatuated with Lana but in love with Chloe but just doesn't realise it yet as he hasn't really allowed himself to explore those feelings for her and his mind has been fixed on getting Lana. He was ready to explore a relationship with Chloe back in Season 2 but Chloe let her insecurities put an end to it. I reckon if she had held on Clark would have realised his true feelings about Chloe and Lana would have become a distant memory/fantasy. Clark only agreed to end the relationship because Chloe suggested it and he didn't want to ruin their friendship which he values highly.

I am hoping for Chlark before the end of the season and until the end of Season 8. Sorry Clois fans but that 'ship' is for after Smallville - CK hasn't even shown any interest in journalism yet, let alone completed his training and donned the red cape!

[Kalista]

I really don't care whether the love between Chloe and Clark is romantic or platonic in either direction. I like that it is a genuine, lasting, "I'd die for you" kind of love. Both directions. Chloe and Clark have had a few minor rifts between them, but by and large their relationship has lasted for years, even though it has had some pretty major revelations to deal with. Other loves have waxed and waned, been conditional, intermittent, vindictive, emotionally costly, shallow, etc. Chloe/Clark love truly transcends them as individuals, and binds them together in such a way that builds each of them up. It is a beauty to behold. In my starry eyed opinion.

*sniff* *sniff* That's beautiful.:)

[Dor el]

You being a smarty pants? :)

[Kalista]

You being a smarty pants? :)


No! I really enjoyed the way you expressed Chlark's love! No sarcasm here.:)

[Dor el]

Then, thank you very much. :)

[JAMHEXXX]

You Chlarkers do realize that this beautiful, unselfish, magnificent, earth shattering love is ONE SIDED. My God, Get a Frakking grip on yourselves. It is not like Clark heard Chloogle from the North Pole, broke out of his cage, flew to the fortress and declared his love to her. Have a great day!

[Dor el]

I respectively disagree. Granted, pretty much everyone recognizes Chloe loves Clark. I submit that Clark loves Chloe as well. I am not saying romantically (not saying it isn't either...), but Clark loves Chloe and wouldn't hesitate a second to give his life for hers. she is his sidekick, but I think she is way more. She is just shy of being his soulmate (Lois). They understand each other, worry over each other, help/protect each other, and they want the best for the other. The latter one is the standard of love, I think.

[All about Clark]

I have to agree with LostFan that Chloe vs. Lana is on the horizon relating to Clark and with Brainiac coming. I think Lana will make a mistake that Chloe has to fix. It may be that as a result that Chloe temporarily dies and Clark can't forgive Lana.

[JAMHEXXX]

I'm pretty sure Clark would give his life to protect just about anyone except for the Luthor's.
Chloogle does not hold a monopoly on that. Clark risked his like for Shelby, so I guess you could equate his love equally for Shelby and the Chloogle.

[Lostfan588]

I'm pretty sure Clark would give his life to protect just about anyone except for the Luthor's.
Chloogle does not hold a monopoly on that. Clark risked his like for Shelby, so I guess you could equate his love equally for Shelby and the Chloogle.

Well, even if it was just to save Clark, Chloe has risked her life, in fact *died* to save the life of her greatest enemy. And despite her love for Clark, she welcomed Lana into her home, and has been a best friend to her, sacrificing her own feelings/desires for others happiness. So you are entitled to your opinion, but I think Chloe, besides Clark of course, is the most selfless character on the show.

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You Chlarkers do realize that this beautiful, unselfish, magnificent, earth shattering love is ONE SIDED.

You can see it that way if you want, but when Clark says things like "I don't know what I'd do with out you Chloe", "You've saved me again", and "You mean more the me than you know", and "It goes both ways", and initiates the sweetest hugs I've ever seen, always there to catch her when she falls, that is not my definition of one-sided. But hey whatever floats your boat.

[JAMHEXXX]

Well, even if it was just to save Clark, Chloe has risked her life, in fact *died* to save the life of her greatest enemy. And despite her love for Clark, she welcomed Lana into her home, and has been a best friend to her, sacrificing her own feelings/desires for others happiness. So you are entitled to your opinion, but I think Chloe, besides Clark of course, is the most selfless character on the show.

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You can see it that way if you want, but when Clark says things like "I don't know what I'd do with out you Chloe", "You've saved me again", and "You mean more the me than you know", and "It goes both ways", and initiates the sweetest hugs I've ever seen, always there to catch her when she falls, that is not my definition of one-sided. But hey whatever floats your boat.


Thanx, it does float my boat.:D

[Superchica1203]

I am hoping for Chlark before the end of the season and until the end of Season 8. Sorry Clois fans but that 'ship' is for after Smallville - CK hasn't even shown any interest in journalism yet, let alone completed his training and donned the red cape!


This really bothers me. Journalism is part of what makes Clark Kent..well Clark Kent!!! In Metropolis at least. But come on he should seriously show more interest in the subject. It is his livelihood after all.

[CloisLaneKent]

I just don't get why anyone would want to see Chlark happen when you know its doomed (for the ones who DON'T believe in Chlois)... why would you wanna see Clark finally give Chloe a little something after all these years with Lana, only to wind up falling in love with and marrying her cousin? I don't think the writers will go there, its too kinky LOL

[Ayanne]

"I love your son" - Chloe is the ONE who gives Clark unconditional, unselfish, love. This wasn't something platonic or casual given in the context. It's that once in a lifetime, rarely found, pure.

SOULMATES. That's Clark & Chloe.

[JAMHEXXX]

Shelby gives unconditional,. unselfish love as well.

SOULMATES. That's Clark & Shelby.
BWAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[miks]

I just don't get why anyone would want to see Chlark happen when you know its doomed (for the ones who DON'T believe in Chlois)... why would you wanna see Clark finally give Chloe a little something after all these years with Lana, only to wind up falling in love with and marrying her cousin? I don't think the writers will go there, its too kinky LOL

It doesn't matter if you believe in Chlois. Chloe and Clark are great together. This is AU, Lois and Clark are NOT getting together on this show. With or without the Chlois theory, NO ONE has any idea of what they are going to do. Hell they might even decide to kill Lois and still have Chloe join the Justice League or something like that. The bottom line is, we want Chlark because, in our opinions, that's how it's supposed to be. That's what we've seen numerous times on this show, the struggle, the love, the friendship. That's what should be the payoff to most of us. Has nothing to do with Chlois or Lois, because if/when they were to date, it would be by the end of the series and we would NEVER see any signs of Clois. If they want to say well eventually Clois get together yet end the series on Chlark that's fine by me, even though stupid, because Chlark is still the end of Smallville, who gives a crap after that, unless it ends with Lois dying, and they leave this whole Chlark Chlois kind of thing where it seems like Chloe is taking over as top reporter and Clark finally joins and they hook up or something. Then we can speculate when the whole thing is over, but if they leave it with no loose ends then I don't care.

[Yasise]

I just don't get why anyone would want to see Chlark happen when you know its doomed (for the ones who DON'T believe in Chlois)... why would you wanna see Clark finally give Chloe a little something after all these years with Lana, only to wind up falling in love with and marrying her cousin? I don't think the writers will go there, its too kinky LOL

Amen again :)


Shelby gives unconditional,. unselfish love as well.

SOULMATES. That's Clark & Shelby.
BWAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[clarkbunny]

I just don't get why anyone would want to see Chlark happen when you know its doomed (for the ones who DON'T believe in Chlois)... why would you wanna see Clark finally give Chloe a little something after all these years with Lana, only to wind up falling in love with and marrying her cousin? I don't think the writers will go there, its too kinky LOL

What is that old phrase? "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved"
CK is a long way from being superman yet and in the meantime I see no reason in him having other relationships along the way. It's not about the goal it's about the journey.

You can't know someone is not 'the one' until you have been with them. Clark and Chloe clearly have feelings for each other beyond friendship and I see no reason for them not to explore it. I know Clois is mythos but at the moment I think Chloe could well be his life partner and forget about Lois.

[RedKRules]

What is that old phrase? "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved"
CK is a long way from being superman yet and in the meantime I see no reason in him having other relationships along the way. It's not about the goal it's about the journey.

You can't know someone is not 'the one' until you have been with them. Clark and Chloe clearly have feelings for each other beyond friendship and I see know reason for them not to explore it. I know Clois is mythos but at the moment I think Chloe could well be his life partner and forget about Lois.

Couldn´t agree more :D

[clarkbunny]

That's what should be the payoff to most of us. Has nothing to do with Chlois or Lois, because if/when they were to date, it would be by the end of the series and we would NEVER see any signs of Clois. If they want to say well eventually Clois get together yet end the series on Chlark that's fine by me, even though stupid, because Chlark is still the end of Smallville, who gives a crap after that,

Exactly, Clois is not meant to happen on Smallville so it doesn't matter if season 8 ends with Chlark together. The writers won't have to ever explain how Clois get together unless there is a new series called Metropolis.

[CloisLaneKent]

That would be a stupid cop-out. If they ended the show with Chlark, you think that would make the mythos fans or fans of Clois in any incarnation, happy? I know I wouldn't be... no they have to show that Clark and Lois are together, or at least on the cusp of it at the end of the series, otherwise all we'll hear is people saying Clark and Chloe stayed together forever (even though thats not the way it goes), or they will say eventually Lois died and Chloe took her name, etc.. nah, Al/Miles have said they want to line it up with the mythos by the end, so they can't have any open ended, endings... which knowing them, that is probably exactly what they will do. Cloisers will assume it goes in their direction because thats how the story goes, but Al/Miles could be sneaky and leave it so that Chloisers/Chlarkers can assume it went their way too... wouldn't that suck? I'd rather have concrete evidence that it ends with Lois/CLois, and not Chlark/Chlois. Ugh, see, you guys makes me babble.

[clarkbunny]

Where are these "CLEAR" romantic feelings that Clark showers upon Chloogle? Really please present them in a 'CLEAR" manner.

Thanx and have a great day!:)

Ugh, it's plain for all to see, Clark's "You mean more to me than you know" statement. The way Chloe always features as the person he trusts the most above even Lana in his mind. The way he looked disappointed at the start of Season 6 when Chloe blew him off. The way he looked slightly jealous of Chlimmy at times. His overprotectiveness of her regards the Justice League & Lex and also watching over her when she 'died' for 18 hours.

Clark always goes above and beyond the call of duty when it comes to Chloe. He may be a little slow to realise it but those feelings are there - he even admitted it when he was on red kryptonite. He has been too distracted with Lana all these years to realise it but the signals are clear. If he didn't have unexplored feelings for Chloe why would he ask her out in Season 2?

[Kalista]

Clarkbunny don't forget that he is very possessive and protective of Chloe. That can be seen from his reaction to Oliver putting Chloe in the direct line of fire. His connection to her is so profound that he nearly lost his mind and/or lost his will to keep fighting when he thought she was dead.

[clarkbunny]

That would be a stupid cop-out. If they ended the show with Chlark, you think that would make the mythos fans or fans of Clois in any incarnation, happy? I know I wouldn't be... no they have to show that Clark and Lois are together, or at least on the cusp of it at the end of the series, otherwise all we'll hear is people saying Clark and Chloe stayed together forever (even though thats not the way it goes), or they will say eventually Lois died and Chloe took her name, etc.. nah, Al/Miles have said they want to line it up with the mythos by the end, so they can't have any open ended, endings... which knowing them, that is probably exactly what they will do. Cloisers will assume it goes in their direction because thats how the story goes, but Al/Miles could be sneaky and leave it so that Chloisers/Chlarkers can assume it went their way too... wouldn't that suck? I'd rather have concrete evidence that it ends with Lois/CLois, and not Chlark/Chlois. Ugh, see, you guys makes me babble.

Well sorry mythos fans but Lois doesn't belong in Smallville. Don't get me wrong I LOVE Lois and the Clois love-hate friendship. However the mythos Clark and Lois meet at the Daily Planet and they have the same love-hate kind of friendship - Lois being suspicious of this new reporter on her turf and always keen to get the story before him. Lois falls in love with SUPERMAN and NOT Clark Kent. She only finds out the two are the same after quite a while. Therefore hinting at a Clois relationship at the end of Smallville will be pointless to me as that is too far ahead in the future. Unless she sees Clark in the cape flying and says 'wow what a hunk' :lol:

[Lostfan588]

What is that old phrase? "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved"
CK is a long way from being superman yet and in the meantime I see no reason in him having other relationships along the way. It's not about the goal it's about the journey.

You can't know someone is not 'the one' until you have been with them. Clark and Chloe clearly have feelings for each other beyond friendship and I see no reason for them not to explore it. I know Clois is mythos but at the moment I think Chloe could well be his life partner and forget about Lois.



I agree. And as far as Chlark being "DOOMED" :lol:...well...:rotfl:. I'm sorry, but their love beats all, so even if it were doomed, which I don't think it is at all, it would still be totally worth it for them to give it a shot.

[Kalista]

Clark is very possessive and protective of his plaid shirts. Get over yourselves.:D

Your purpose in visiting has been clearly defined. I will not waste anymore of my time.

[freefall]

I haven't seen the episode yet, but from the clips I've seen, I have to say it's a wonderful scene. I don't think it's a romantic declaration, but it's spoken from the heart and that's what matters the most.

[clarkbunny]

Nothing you have listed is "CLEAR" in any form. All of those things can be construed in any way you lean. In your opinion if the sunset and the moon rose that would be a "CLEAR" sign showing the MAGICAL, EVERLASTING, OVERPOWERING, ANGELS PLAYING HARPS love that is Chlark.


Well if Clark admitting back in Season 2 that he may have deeper feelings for Chloe or his keeness to start a relationship with her at the beginning of Season 6 isn't a CLEAR indication there is obviously no convincing you. It doesn't change the fact that these things did happen. It is possible to fall in love with someone and not know it, especially a best friend that you spend a LOT of time with.

[ginnyfan]

As a Cloiser and Chimmyer I've gotta say that this moment... for me... transcends shipping. I mean I can ship Sam/Rosie and still appreciate the magical, wonderful, beautiful love Sam has for Frodo. I'm so in love with Chloe right now. *sniff* I miss him. Anyways... Yeah.

Chloe... her love for Clark has been... This scene has burned everything that could possibly be seen as pathetic out of Chloe's love for Clark. I mean it went from petty high school crushing and jealousy... to this devotion mixed with the hope of romantic love and... I think that with Jimmy, Chloe got a distance from Clark romantically that helped her love to grow even more into this beautiful selfless powerful love that could activate the fortress. Whatever the future holds... that's just so magical for her character.

I've hated Chloe/Clark/Lana... but now I think I can watch all that angst from the old seasons with a smile knowing that it leads to this moment. This moment has made Chloe's love something that just... yeah... transcendent. To take it down to some kind of petty shipper thing just tarnishes the moment a bit and sort of misses the point.

I'm not going to say that Chlark can't happen or that this moment can't be appreciated in a romantic way. I can see how... it's like watching the best Chlark fanfic ever in a way. And isn't it cool when you can actually compare Smallville to a really well written fanfic? That's the way I feel about the moment between Lois and Clark in Siren. I'm thinking, "Sana? Did you write this? Looking for Scribe in the credits." LOL! So I can appreciate the romantic angle here for Chlarkers even if I don't share it.

:)

ETA: What seacrystal said.

[IloveClark]

Romantic.And you non Clarkers stop trying to ruin our happy moment let us enjoy it.Why put all this energy into saying it wasn't what we thought or she pathetic or were pathetic.Just please let us be happy with it.Thank you.

Amanda

[clarkbunny]

Do you really want to go down this road? Bringing up mythos would be a very bad defense for people who like Chloe.:D

Actually bringing up mythos is not a bad defence for people that like Chloe 'cos the Smallville stories haven't entirely followed mythos. The writers have pretty much invented stories as they see fit so far, throwing in mythos here and there. Clark did have relationships with other women before he met Lois so they can make those women whoever they want - and they have - Alicia and the Kawatchi girl (forget her name).

In terms of mythos the fact remains that Lois falls in love with Superman and not Clark so I don't see how that is going to happen on this show. The way I see it Season 8 will end with Clark going off to do his training. I don't see them fitting in him doing his training, becoming a journalist, becoming superman and falling in love with Lois all within 22 episodes.

[JAMHEXXX]

Well if Clark admitting back in Season 2 that he may have deeper feelings for Chloe or his keeness to start a relationship with her at the beginning of Season 6 isn't a CLEAR indication there is obviously no convincing you. It doesn't change the fact that these things did happen. It is possible to fall in love with someone and not know it, especially a best friend that you spend a LOT of time with.

You made my point with your reply. "MAY" is not something that is clear. Thank you for clearing this up for me with your own argument.:lol:

[constantine]

"I love your son" - Chloe is the ONE who gives Clark unconditional, unselfish, love. This wasn't something platonic or casual given in the context. It's that once in a lifetime, rarely found, pure.

SOULMATES. That's Clark & Chloe.

The comic books disagree.

[clarkbunny]

^^ *roll eyes*

Yeah keep kidding yourself JAMHEXXX.

[JAMHEXXX]

Actually bringing up mythos is not a bad defence for people that like Chloe 'cos the Smallville stories haven't entirely followed mythos. The writers have pretty much invented stories as they see fit so far, throwing in mythos here and there. Clark did have relationships with other women before he met Lois so they can make those women whoever they want - and they have - Alicia and the Kawatchi girl (forget her name).

In terms of mythos the fact remains that Lois falls in love with Superman and not Clark so I don't see how that is going to happen on this show. The way I see it Season 8 will end with Clark going off to do his training. I don't see them fitting in him doing his training, becoming a journalist, becoming superman and falling in love with Lois all within 22 episodes.

Have I once brought up Lois in these discussions? I could care less about the time line of Lois and Clark getting together. That story is set in stone and there is no denying that. This discussion involved the validity of Chlark love. I was pointing out that Chlarkers were going a bit overboard in that regard. Nothing anyone has said during this debate has changed my opinion that CHLOE loves Clark in a romantic way, but Clark does not return it in the same way. He loves CHLOE as his best friend, a non-romantic friend.

[Jaded Wolf]

You know, I would not be against if Chloe appeared in the comics and pined Clark over. That's how popular Allison Mack has made Chloe. Plus, I can only imagine how Chloe would be drawn in the comic books. ;)

[CloisLaneKent]

Who's Chloogle? Isn't her name Chloe? LOL Just that I HATE when people call Lois Hois, or Nois, so I wouldn't wanna do the same to Chloe...

anyway I think she was responding to me, because I said the show can't end Chlark if its going to line up with the mythos.

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You know, I would not be against if Chloe appeared in the comics and pined Clark over. That's how popular Allison Mack has made Chloe. Plus, I can only imagine how Chloe would be drawn in the comic books. ;)

Yeah but they already had a Chloe doing that in the comics... her name was Lana Lang ;) Thats why I see Chloe as a comic Lana Lang, loves Clark, Pete was in love with her, worked at the Daily Planet, etc etc

[All about Clark]

TPTB have clearly shown that Clark has more hots (physically) for Lois than Chloe. He can love Chloe without a physical and romantic relationship. TPTB will not have Clark pine for Chloe. It would be too damaging to the story. Besides TPTB even stated Clark will begin to feel something for Lois.

[Lostfan588]

Welp, I dis...A...gree. LOL

[Vergon6]

You're right, there is no reason to use unaffectionate nicknames like that. There have very seldom indications that Clark loved Chloe in that way. There is undoubtedly some romantic love left in Chloe for Clark, and that may have been brought out by the crisis of the situation. While I am sure Clark loves Chloe as a irreplaceable friend, but not in a true romantic sense. That doesn't mean his love for her is any less valid just because it's not romantic in nature.

Events in Season 2 and Season 6 were brought up. But if you recall, it was faced head-on with Chloe's feelings for him in "Devoted" in Season 4. Lana had seemed to move on, and now he was faced with a girl who was in love with her. He didn't know she was on the love potion at that point. He had a conversation with his mother about it, and he thought it over, and in the end, he let the cured Chloe know he didn't feel the same way.

I will grant you that there may have been some interest in Clark for Chloe in "Zod" for a moment, but you have to look at in context. Lana had left him and was with his arch-enemy, he had just survived an ordeal in the Phantom Zone, and was a bit lovelorn.

You will also recall than in one of the previous scenes, he had a moment with Lois as well. After she told him about being in the Fortress, he smiled and said he was glad she was alive again, and without realizing was holding her hand tenderly. Then when they both realized what was happening, got all awkward. And then later on RedK, he was strongly attracted to Lois in "Crimson", making out with her, and nearly having sex with her. Similar to his actions in "Rush" where he was making out with Chloe.

He also seemed to be quite taken with Raya after she was found to be alive and well in "Fallout". He was lonely, and was probably at least subconsciously looking for the small possibility of love with significant women in his life aside from Lana.

[CloisLaneKent]

You're right, there is no reason to use unaffectionate nicknames like that. There have very seldom indications that Clark loved Chloe in that way. There is undoubtedly some romantic love left in Chloe for Clark, and that may have been brought out by the crisis of the situation. While I am sure Clark loves Chloe as a irreplaceable friend, but not in a true romantic sense. That doesn't mean his love for her is any less valid just because it's not romantic in nature.

Events in Season 2 and Season 6 were brought up. But if you recall, it was faced head-on with Chloe's feelings for him in "Devoted" in Season 4. Lana had seemed to move on, and now he was faced with a girl who was in love with her. He didn't know she was on the love potion at that point. He had a conversation with his mother about it, and he thought it over, and in the end, he let the cured Chloe know he didn't feel the same way.

I will grant you that there may have been some interest in Clark for Chloe in "Zod" for a moment, but you have to look at in context. Lana had left him and was with his arch-enemy, he had just survived an ordeal in the Phantom Zone, and was a bit lovelorn.

You will also recall than in one of the previous scenes, he had a moment with Lois as well. After she told him about being in the Fortress, he smiled and said he was glad she was alive again, and without realizing was holding her hand tenderly. Then when they both realized what was happening, got all awkward. And then later on RedK, he was strongly attracted to Lois in "Crimson", making out with her, and nearly having sex with her. Similar to his actions in "Rush" where he was making out with Chloe.

He also seemed to be quite taken with Raya after she was found to be alive and well in "Fallout". He was lonely, and was probably at least subconsciously looking for the small possibility of love with significant women in his life aside from Lana.

I think the conclusion is, Clark needs some Kryptonian therapy...

[Vergon6]

Haha. Clark goes to Fortress of Solitude to get counseling from Jor-EL lol

[Ayanne]

The comic books disagree.

And Smallville isn't the comic book, it's a new & creatively unique version of the Superman mythology, everything here doesn't have to follow exactly as the comics. ( And it hasn't from the begininng!) Allison Mack's Chloe character has been embraced by the fans & become so popular she's now being embraced by the comics & giving Superman legacy something NEW to explore.

[JAMHEXXX]

That comic book deal fell apart.

[superpal1]

Chlark all the way!!!!!!!!!!! I wish the writers would put these two together. hopefully season eight is our year.

[Ayanne]

Not exactly "fell apart" from this quote... & yes, DC comics did embrace the popularity of the Chloe character! HOW & WHEN, is yet to be seen.

"Chloe is an exciting character on the television show, and we had hoped to work her into DC continuity," DiDio said in a recent conversation with Newsarama.com. "Unfortunately, the stars did not align properly, and even though we had announced it, she will not be appearing in any of the issues of Superman or Action Comics."
That was all DiDio had to say about Chloe's sudden disappearing act. It was probably some sort of rights issue."

However none of this changes the fact Smallville does not have to follow the comics exactly, & the TV show consistantly has NOT.

[Lostfan588]

Well, I think the Chlark scenes speak for themselves. I don't really care what happens in the comics, since I only watch this show...and on this show the 100,000 Chlark hugs, the fireside chats, fortress visits (okay 2!), deep conversations, spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's day together, Sneezing teasing, lakeside picnics, Chlark catches, "Personal Bombsquad"/ "You mean more to me than you know", has done more than enough to convince me they are just the perfect couple whether or not they ever take the next step. BUT imo the setup is so obvious it's nauseating!

[curiosity]

Well, I think the Chlark scenes speak for themselves. I don't really care what happens in the comics, since I only watch this show...and on this show the 100,000 Chlark hugs, the fireside chats, fortress visits (okay 2!), deep conversations, spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's day together, Sneezing teasing, lakeside picnics, Chlark catches, "Personal Bombsquad"/ "You mean more to me than you know", has done more than enough to convince me they are just the perfect couple whether or not they ever take the next step. BUT imo the setup is so obvious it's nauseating!

So Lostfan, you think this is a setup for Chlark? The Mt. Everest comment, then the "l love your son"? I would be excited if they dated, but you know we probably won't get that. Jimmy would be so jealous. If Kara can date Jimmy, I don't see why Clark can't date Chloe. But, this is probably the annual Chlark teasing they give us. I'm also a Clois fan, so I would be happy with either one.

[aqgalaxy]

Jimmy would be so jealous.

You know what's funny, Jimmy was in this episode too.

[Lostfan588]

So Lostfan, you think this is a setup for Chlark? The Mt. Everest comment, then the "l love your son"? I would be excited if they dated, but you know we probably won't get that. This is probably the annual Chlark teasing they give us. I'm also a Clois fan, so I would be happy with either one.


Oh, what..really? I didn't know that about you, that's cool! Well yeah, maybe I have a little more faith in Al Miles than most but as much as I am open to the idea of Clois, I swear this show forces me to keep rooting for Chlark. I think the "I would climb to mount everest" for clark is just one of many- well, subtextual hints, of Chlark setup- because of what Chloe said earlier in the season about the goddess of love and "healing" going to the end of the earth for the man she loved. And the thing about the other side of ISIS bringing Ra to his knees, and Chloe saying she's not going to let that happen (which in my interpretation means she's going to be the one who can eventually pull off Clark's Lana blinders). So, yeah, I don't see why tptb put so much work into foreshadowing like that and comparing Lana and Chloe all seasons if it is going nowhere. So, I gotta believe they have some plan! LOL

[clarkbunny]

^
??? Where was Jimmy - I didn't see him.

[JAMHEXXX]

Not exactly "fell apart" from this quote... & yes, DC comics did embrace the popularity of the Chloe character! HOW & WHEN, is yet to be seen.

"Chloe is an exciting character on the television show, and we had hoped to work her into DC continuity," DiDio said in a recent conversation with Newsarama.com. "Unfortunately, the stars did not align properly, and even though we had announced it, she will not be appearing in any of the issues of Superman or Action Comics."
That was all DiDio had to say about Chloe's sudden disappearing act. It was probably some sort of rights issue."

However none of this changes the fact Smallville does not have to follow the comics exactly, & the TV show consistantly has NOT.


Gee, lets see. She isn't going to be appearing in any of the issues of Superman or Action Comics. Sounds like the deal fell apart to me.:lol:

[Mary Sullivan]

Well, I think the Chlark scenes speak for themselves. I don't really care what happens in the comics, since I only watch this show...and on this show the 100,000 Chlark hugs, the fireside chats, fortress visits (okay 2!), deep conversations, spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's day together, Sneezing teasing, lakeside picnics, Chlark catches, "Personal Bombsquad"/ "You mean more to me than you know", has done more than enough to convince me they are just the perfect couple whether or not they ever take the next step. BUT imo the setup is so obvious it's nauseating!I agree completely.

And this was no teasing, they have been giving us hints about her feelings this season since Cure. Now we know for sure that Chloe still loves Clark.

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Gee, lets see. She isn't going to appearing in any of the issues of Superman or Action Comics. Sounds like the deal fell apart to me.:lol:They never said that she would never appear, but this time they couldn't do it for some reason(we don't know what was the reason exactly) but DC has the rights and any time now they'll be introducing her. Many people thinks that Al/Miles didn't want Chloe being intrioduced before the shows end and it makes sense.

[aqgalaxy]

^
??? Where was Jimmy - I didn't see him.

He was in the DP Chlana scene in the background:
Red-orange shirt:
http://www.svfan.com/screenshots/S7/Smallville_S7E14_Traveler/smallville_traveler_206.jpg

[Mary Sullivan]

You know what's funny, Jimmy was in this episode too.LOL, yes. Best appearance of Jimmy since he first appeared in Smallville. :lol:

[curiosity]

I think the "I would climb to mount everest" for clark is just one of many- well, subtextual hints, of Chlark setup- because of what Chloe said earlier in the season about the goddess of love and "healing" going to the end of the earth for the man she loved. And the thing about the other side of ISIS bringing Ra to his knees, and Chloe saying she's not going to let that happen (which in my interpretation means she's going to be the one who can eventually pull off Clark's Lana blinders).


I forgot about the ISIS comment and how she threatened Lana. That was so funny. But we were all so excited last season, because of the kiss at the end of season 5.

Then we heard how they would only be friends forever, and nothing else. It looks like they're teasing us again. You have to admit, watching Clark get ready to ask her out at the beginning of season 6, and then get shot down by Jimmy was pretty hard. lol They were way closer then Clana.

[Ayanne]

Gee, lets see. She isn't going to be appearing in any of the issues of Superman or Action Comics. Sounds like the deal fell apart to me.:lol:

The important points are: Chloe's level of popularity, & the character was embraced by DC comics, the "deal" falling apart ( as you claim) seems to be about rights, & working that out.

Smallville, however has been creating their own version of the Superman mythology from the first episode... & a scene of Chloe, going to the ends of the earth, in the FOS, facing Jor-El, saying " I love your son" ~ saving the last son of Krypton.

It doesn't get much more "mythologically epic" than that !!

Clark's soulmate. :D

[shy175223]

You got that right. That ship set sail a long time ago and it has long since reached it's destination of the phantom zone, never to return.
Chloe could strip down completely naked and run around Clark dancing the Hully Gully and Clark would still not even know she's alive. :lol:

Agreed!


Once Lana is gone we all know who Clark will be pining over next. I'll give you a hint: she's in my profile pic.

he won't pine for her until a almost toward the end of the series.:D

[queenelizabeth]

OMG, that line was sooo awesome. Clark and Chloe are really great friends, right? I think Chloe loves Clark the way you love your best friend.

[Mars Investigations]

Due to the way Chloe said it - it wasn't particularly climatic or dramatic - it seems she meant it in a platonic manner. However, there is probably a deeper meaning behind it, but she's just adjusted to the fact that they're best friends over anything else.

[Ayanne]

OMG, that line was sooo awesome. Clark and Chloe are really great friends, right? I think Chloe loves Clark the way you love your best friend.


Actually, I think Chloe & Clark have both demonstrated that their love for each other transends friendship, romantic & yet contains aspects of both.

[Liriel]

The important points are: Chloe's level of popularity, & the character was embraced by DC comics, the "deal" falling apart ( as you claim) seems to be about rights, & working that out. :DI, a big Chloe fan (well, not in season 6, but before that) was thrilled she when I found out the comic deal fell through. They truly diminished the character (from what we heard) - most Chloe fans I know hated what they were doing with her. Plus, it helps keep my Chlois hopes (not beliefs) alive a little longer.

[Ayanne]

I, a big Chloe fan (well, not in season 6, but before that) was thrilled she when I found out the comic deal fell through. They truly diminished the character (from what we heard) - most Chloe fans I know hated what they were doing with her. Plus, it helps keep my Chlois hopes (not beliefs) alive a little longer.


TPTB of Smallville have the opportunity to contribute something fresh, new & LEGENDARY to the Superman Universe with Chloe! I hope they do it right, the character *is* special!!

[theWatcher]

Chloe wil always love Clark; that is something that will always be with her. However, in this case I personally feel that what she was describing is that which goes beyond friendship and romance. A feeling that very few ever get to experience. A feeling that which is hard to describe, for even I now, am having trouble coming up with words to use. The best I can currently come up with would be a bond of intimate friendship (not intimate as in something physical either).

[SpiritedDiva]

I'm not really sure. The Chlarker in me definitely thinks it's romantic, that she still has those feelings for him. But another part of me thinks it was perhaps just in friendship.

Either way you slice it, platonic or romantic, there is love there. Pure, constant "I would die for you" love that sets them apart from the other relationships on the show.


I completely agree with this Robyn. Whether it was romantic or paltonic, does it really matter at this point. It was a deap, heartfelt plea from Chloe. And that means a lot more than any soap opera, cheesy love scene.:)

[JAMHEXXX]

TPTB of Smallville have the opportunity to contribute something fresh, new & LEGENDARY to the Superman Universe with Chloe! I hope they do it right, the character *is* special!!


Here is the new & LEGENDARY Chloe:



However, comic book Chloe Sullivan may be slightly different than her television counterpart. Due to issues with likeness rights, the character has to be drawn to look like Chloe, but can't look too much like Allison Mack. And though comic Chloe will be an aspiring journalist, roughly the same age as the Smallville version, and still Lois' cousin, she won't be a mirror image of the television character. For one thing, Clark and Lana are adults in the comic book, and this Chloe is still a teenager


“The problem we'd have faced if we brought her in with the same background as the TV show is that she'd fill two basic roles -- the Girl from Back Home and the Reporter -- and those roles are both pretty solidly filled in the adult Superman cast, by Lana and Lois," Busiek explained. "So she's got to have a different spin, one that lets her occupy a different role from either of them. She's the younger sister of someone Clark went to school with, not a classmate of Clark's herself. As a result, she's the new intern at the Daily Planet, fresh out of journalism school and itching to make a name for herself. That'll make her clearly different from Lois and Lana, and at the same time more familiar to watchers of the show.”

The other big difference between classic Chloe and the new version is that she won't have superpowers or know Clark's secret. “No way. No one in Lois' family - save Lois herself - knows the secret," Busiek says.

[Vergon6]

LOL, yes. Best appearance of Jimmy since he first appeared in Smallville. :lol:
lol. I missed that one, he was just pushed to the background, but I guess that's what some people like. I personally think Jimmy is a decent character. I actually prefer this interpretation of Jimmy Olsen to the one in the movies.

[Ayanne]

“No way. No one in Lois' family - save Lois herself - knows the secret," Busiek says

Yet, in Smallville, CHLOE is the ONE who "knows the secret", ~ very interesting. And that new version of Chloe isn't going to happen now....

There's some very interesting possibilities with that scenario, including Smallville's creatiive version of new aspect of a LEGENDARY character.

Thanks. ;)

[JAMHEXXX]

She will not know his secret if she is put in the comics.She won't even know Clark if she is introduced into the Comics.

[Ayanne]

She will not know his secret if she is put in the comics.She won't even know Clark if she is introduced into the Comics.

And as you said, that characterization of Chloe isn't going to happen now, the deal "fell apart"....

Again, this isn't the comics, it's SMALLVILLE..

"I love your son.." Yep, that's legend material... & we have yet to see where the legend of Chloe leads...

[liutku]

chloe really loves clark much more than a bestfriend but she just accept being his friend because clark doesn't dare go forward. that is greatest sacrifice chloe's done for the person she LOVES:"I'm the girl of your dreams masquerading as your best friend" 5 season later nothing changes

[PepsiMax]

Me say it was platonic. :D

[CloisLaneKent]

Right! Which is rapidly approaching :D LOL

[shy175223]

not too soon though

[IloveClark]

Clark was pining for Chloe till the middle of season 6 when they brought back the dead horse known as Clana.

[Scarypuffringo]

Okay...

I don't usually post in the section but Chloe's line just... Well, I couldn't keep my mouth shut this time.

I'm a Brasilian fan and I watched the scene on the internet and I've been reading all of your posts regarding Chloe's statement since yesterday.

I have to confess that I agree with practically most of the arguments presented here, even from the Clois fans and all.

I loved the scene. I was jumping up and down when I watched and was so happy about Chloe's honesty but there's soemthing bothering me.

TPTB always state that Clark and Chloe will never be together, that Chlois will never happen (they even laugh at the theory), they say Chloe and Clark are just really the best of friends and blah blah blah.

So WHY?

This is my question: Why Chloe?

Why have her say "I love your son", or have her stand up to Lana when she realized what he friend was becoming? Why have be so in sync with Clark? Why have Clark be so overprotective of her? Why have her know Clark better than his own girlfriend? Why have Lex say she's infatuated with Clark? Why have Jimmy jealous of Chlark friendship? Why have Clark to practically lose all control after finding out Chloe was dead?

And the list of whys goes on and on. You know them better than I do.


I know it's television and they would do anything to have us keep coming back for more. But if it is all teasing like Clois fan claim it to be.... What's the point?

I mean... Really...

They must have some kind of a plan envolving Chloe and Clark. They must have something for them more than teasing. I mean, they gave her the ability to heal and come back from the deads. The "I love your son" has to lead to something more.

Smallville is an AU, so anything and everything can happen.

I just wish they would rush to answer that list of whys a little. Come on! It's seven years of waiting...

I don't know...

[Welling_is_pretty]

Actually, I think Chloe & Clark have both demonstrated that their love for each other transends friendship, romantic & yet contains aspects of both.
I agree. I think that Chloe loves Clark so completely in all ways. I think Clark could love her htat way too if he would take his freakin' Lana blinders off. (but that's a WHOLE other rant! LOL)

There should have been a 'both' option to this poll!

[curiosity]

My argument is this...most friends who are this close for this long, do eventually go out if only for a little while, even if they decide to just be friends later. I think Clark and Chloe could at least do that.

[liana]

Clark won't be pining for anyone or falling for anyone any time soon. He will be too busy feeling forever guilty over Lana's catatonic state. That's just who he is. He won't let himself fall for anyone or be happy, because he will think that whoever he gets involved with, will end just like Lana.

It really doesn't matter if Lana will wake up or not. Clark will think it is all his fault, and he will decide to be forever alone. That's how the producers had decided to deal with Kristin absence next year. It is pretty obvious by the last Veritas trailler.

So, there is absoluty no hope for Clark falling for Lois, Chloe or Lori next year. He will be feeling guilty and miserable about Lana for all season 8. Which means that, once again, pretty much like in season 6, Clark will be physically alone, but emotionally linked to Lana. Sad, but true. Not even Kristin leaving the show can change SV fate of being forever about Clark and Lana.

[redraven]

Clark was pining for Chloe till the middle of season 6 when they brought back the dead horse known as Clana.

Yeah...I don't remember that ever happening. The Clark pining for Chloe thing. Maybe...you meant the other way around? :\

But onto my thoughts on the poll; I really hope that Chloe meant it in a platonic way, because if she meant it romantically... then I feel sad for her. She's still pining for Clark when, to me, he's shown no romantic interest in her at all. Especially now that he's with Lana. I mean...move on Chloe.

[shy175223]

I'm still crossing my fingers that will change though.

[curiosity]

Yeah...I don't remember that ever happening. The Clark pining for Chloe thing. Maybe...you meant the other way around? :\

But onto my thoughts on the poll; I really hope that Chloe meant it in a platonic way, because if she meant it romantically... then I feel sad for her. She's still pining for Clark when, to me, he's shown no romantic interest in her at all. Especially now that he's with Lana. I mean...move on Chloe.

That's not true, he was about to ask her out at the beginning of season 6 and Jimmy interrupted things.

[Vergon6]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread I believe, he was also interested in Raya later in the season, and attracted to Lois, even though he didn't realize it until "Crimson". Right before the scene with Chloe in "Zod", he was tenderly holding Lois' in hand in the hospital and when they both realized it, things got all awkward. So Clark doesn't just have Chloe on his mind when Lana is out of the picture.

[liana]

I'm still crossing my fingers that will change though.

Well, unless we are misunderstanding that trailler, and I certainly hope so, I am afraid you are hoping in vain, shy. The last thing I want to see is Clark moping over Lana's coma, but if that really happens, knowing Clark, that is what will happen. Unless Lana recovers real quickly.

To tell you the truth, my hope is that she wakes up when Clark destroys Brainiac in the 18th, and Clark and her meets off screen, with them deciding to break up. Maybe, then, Clark can recover.

[Lostfan588]

chloe really loves clark much more than a bestfriend but she just accept being his friend because clark doesn't dare go forward. that is greatest sacrifice chloe's done for the person she LOVES:"I'm the girl of your dreams masquerading as your best friend"

I agree...although I think it does go both ways, since everytime Clark has started to take that step (he's the one who went for a kiss in Tempest and the one who asked Chloe to the dance) and he's the one who brings up the kiss in "Zod", Chloe's thrown up a defense mechanism. It seems like everyone else can see how much they feel about each other and are protective of the other but themselves. :lol:

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Chloe wil always love Clark; that is something that will always be with her. However, in this case I personally feel that what she was describing is that which goes beyond friendship and romance. A feeling that very few ever get to experience. A feeling that which is hard to describe, for even I now, am having trouble coming up with words to use. The best I can currently come up with would be a bond of intimate friendship (not intimate as in something physical either).


Yeah, uh, is there like a word that goes beyond love? Because whatever it is I think Chlark has it....

[shy175223]

Well, unless we are misunderstanding that trailler, and I certainly hope so, I am afraid you are hoping in vain, shy. The last thing I want to see is Clark moping over Lana's coma, but if that really happens, knowing Clark, that is what will happen. Unless Lana recovers real quickly.

To tell you the truth, my hope is that she wakes up when Clark destroys Brainiac in the 18th, and Clark and her meets off screen, with them deciding to break up. Maybe, then, Clark can recover.

Now that would real dumb step for Almiles to take IF they have Clark moping for Lana when she is in a coma. I am with you, I also hope that she wakes up with Clark and Lana finally agreeing to break up amacibly.

[curiosity]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread I believe, he was also interested in Raya later in the season, and attracted to Lois, even though he didn't realize it until "Crimson". Right before the scene with Chloe in "Zod", he was tenderly holding Lois' in hand in the hospital and when they both realized it, things got all awkward. So Clark doesn't just have Chloe on his mind when Lana is out of the picture.

It was just friends with Lois at that time, and she almost died, so that was just friend caring. I believe he did have Chloe on his mind at that time.

Clark has had many scenes with Lois, even when he's been with Lana, like the strip club scene. He's also kissed her and smiled about it right before he got back with Lana.

[liana]

Now that would real dumb step for Almiles to take IF they have Clark moping for Lana when she is in a coma. I am with you, I also hope that she wakes up with Clark and Lana finally agreeing to break up amacibly.

Oh, I agree it is dumb, but these are the guys that decided to make Clark turn back time to save Lana, knowing that someone would die in her place, remember? They could have written JK's death, without having Clark making that decision, but they had to make him responsible for his death.

So, I believe with them, anything is possible.

[Dor el]

I agree...although I think it does go both ways, since everytime Clark has started to take that step (he's the one who went for a kiss in Tempest and the one who asked Chloe to the dance) and he's the one who brings up the kiss in "Zod", Chloe's thrown up a defense mechanism. It seems like everyone else can see how much they feel about each other and are protective of the other but themselves. :lol:

Yeah, and don't forgot that little bit of the green monster showing up in Clark when Chloe was feigning interest in that crazy illustrator guy with the broken hand.

[Vergon6]

He's also kissed her and smiled about it right before he got back with Lana.
Do you mean in "Hydro" when was pretending to be Green Arrow?

[Lostfan588]

Yeah, and don't forgot that little bit of the green monster showing up in Clark when Chloe was feigning interest in that crazy illustrator guy with the broken hand.

Oh yeah, I don't remember names of the characters, but there was the guy that tried to steal all Chloe's heat from her in season 1, then there was the OC guy (Clark was NOT pleased), and the russian guy (maybe he wasn't russian but had an accent) in season 4, and the Home Improvement guy.....there's been tons of FotW's that went after Chloe, Clark always ended up throwing open the doors and seeing them kissing or something and did a jaw drop, getting all pissed off. I remember one of the times he even told Lana about the "jealous"y he was feeling. :lol:

[do3mire]

IIt seems like everyone else can see how much they feel about each other and are protective of the other but themselves. :lol:


Lana knows. Lex knows. Jimmy knows. Pete knows. Now Jor-el knows. :D

[Lostfan588]

Lana knows. Lex knows. Jimmy knows. Pete knows. Now Jor-el knows. :D

Considering that steamy Transference scene, I think even Lionel's feelin it. :lol:

[RedKRules]

True that :lol: ... Heyyyy SHELBY knows it too :p :D

[Lostfan588]

Oh, while we're at it why not include Oliver too! In Siren, he's all like whooooa cool it dude at Clark's possessiveness.....and then there's Martha- although in Season 6 she was encouraging Clark to do what he thought right in regard to Clana, in Season 1 and Season 4 she asks Clark about his feelings for Chloe, since according to her he'd been saying he had feelings for her- so I'd say she's part Chlarker. And THEN the women from Bound who shielded her childrens eyes as if Chlark were commiting some oh so horrible PDA. LOL

[Vergon6]

True that :lol: ... Heyyyy SHELBY knows it too :p :D
lol The only thing Shelby knows is that he is adorable ;)

[liutku]

....and then there's Martha- although in Season 6 she was encouraging Clark to do what he thought right in regard to Clana, in Season 1 and Season 4 she asks Clark about his feelings for Chloe, since according to her he'd been saying he had feelings for her- so I'd say she's part Chlarker. LOL
maybe she leaves because of that...desesperate seeing chlark is stuck :lol:

[Mary Sullivan]

Okay...

I don't usually post in the section but Chloe's line just... Well, I couldn't keep my mouth shut this time.

I'm a Brasilian fan and I watched the scene on the internet and I've been reading all of your posts regarding Chloe's statement since yesterday.

I have to confess that I agree with practically most of the arguments presented here, even from the Clois fans and all.

I loved the scene. I was jumping up and down when I watched and was so happy about Chloe's honesty but there's soemthing bothering me.

TPTB always state that Clark and Chloe will never be together, that Chlois will never happen (they even laugh at the theory), they say Chloe and Clark are just really the best of friends and blah blah blah.

So WHY?

This is my question: Why Chloe?

Why have her say "I love your son", or have her stand up to Lana when she realized what he friend was becoming? Why have be so in sync with Clark? Why have Clark be so overprotective of her? Why have her know Clark better than his own girlfriend? Why have Lex say she's infatuated with Clark? Why have Jimmy jealous of Chlark friendship? Why have Clark to practically lose all control after finding out Chloe was dead?

And the list of whys goes on and on. You know them better than I do.


I know it's television and they would do anything to have us keep coming back for more. But if it is all teasing like Clois fan claim it to be.... What's the point?

I mean... Really...

They must have some kind of a plan envolving Chloe and Clark. They must have something for them more than teasing. I mean, they gave her the ability to heal and come back from the deads. The "I love your son" has to lead to something more.

Smallville is an AU, so anything and everything can happen.

I just wish they would rush to answer that list of whys a little. Come on! It's seven years of waiting...

I don't know...

WORD to your post.

I agree with everything you said. And they're not teasing, if they really were they'd be doing the same with the Cloisers but they arent. How many scenes Clark and Lois had together this season? 5, 6?

[CloisLaneKent]

Smallville is not an AU, Al/Miles plan to synch it up to the mythos, don't know how, but thats what they have been saying for years.

And the limited Clois screen time is nothing new. They had the same thing in season 5 when Clana was together, and they did it again this season. Maybe because they don't want Lois to be around the Clana drama, that they put Chloe through LOL. It'll probably change again once Clana is broken up, or Lana is not around, like in these upcoming episodes... I dont get why people have to compare anyway. Chloe knows the secret, shes Clarks best friend, of course they are gonna have screen time together, but why act all high and mighty and think thats a reason why Clois isn't possible? Clois isn't supposed to happen until way in the future AFTER they become partners at the DP, so theres not really any point in saying how Clois sucks and how theres no build up, etc, etc.. its not their time yet.

[Lostfan588]

Smallville is not an AU, Al/Miles plan to synch it up to the mythos, don't know how, but thats what they have been saying for years.


If it's not an AU, then how does Chloe exist? :lol:

Al Miles have been teasing for years. Doesn't mean we have to believe every word they say. I only trust what I see onscreen.

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its not their time yet.


Then you know what I say? It's Chlark time! :lol:

[WickedJenn]

I had to record the show and watch it tonight...and wow.

Before even saying that line, Chloe said to Lana in the car "For Clark I'd climb Mt. Everest."

Then with the "I love your son!" not long after that, I felt like, as many have said, there has to be some kind of reason for that. I don't want to presume what exactly, because I'll go thinking one way and it'll turn out to be the total opposite with my luck.

Still, that was an extremely powerful scene, additionally because Jor-El, though he didn't speak, actually listened to Chloe's plea.

I might just be reading too much into things, but this is the second time that Lana has "disappeared" in an episode this season, from what I can remember. First in "Fracture"...Chloe was the one who came in worried what was taking so long, and then in this epi. Yes I know there could be a million different reasons for this, but I find it interesting that Chloe, not she, was the one who was focused on when it came to saving Clark.

As many of you have basically said, Lana's his g/f, yet it's Chloe who I get the "fiercely protective" vibe from. Now granted, Lana did say she "WILL" kill Lex if he had been behind it. But her idea of helping Clark is revenge, while Chloe's is to get right in there and help in the best possible way that DOESN'T involve revenge...much like Clark does.

Thus, it still demonstrates to us Lana's dark side...note Chloe's reaction to her words about killing Lex.

Sorry I went off on tangents there...but couldn't help it :D

[do3mire]

If it's not an AU, then how does Chloe exist? :lol:

Al Miles have been teasing for years. Doesn't mean we have to believe every word they say. I only trust what I see onscreen.

ITA. I mean you could even look at "I love your son" as a tease. Or, a bone to the Chlarkers. Maybe Clois is their end-game. Who knows. I dont believe a single word AlMiles says. I dont believe Smallville has anything to do with the original Superman story--the mythos as ppl call it. The only thing you can believe is what you see on screen.

[CloisLaneKent]

If it's not an AU, then how does Chloe exist? :lol:


Then you know what I say? It's Chlark time! :lol:

Hey who knows, maybe it is.. doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. Theres something that would be weird about seeing Chlark together, and then Clark falling in love with and marrying her cousin... but hey whatever floats your ship ;) And Chloe being added doesn't mean AU.. theres characters in the comics that weren't there at first, that doesn't make it an AU whenever they are included :P

[Lostfan588]

Hey who knows, maybe it is.. doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. Theres something that would be weird about seeing Chlark together, and then Clark falling in love with and marrying her cousin... but hey whatever floats your ship ;)


:D

[Atomic girl]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread I believe, he was also interested in Raya later in the season, and attracted to Lois, even though he didn't realize it until "Crimson". Right before the scene with Chloe in "Zod", he was tenderly holding Lois' in hand in the hospital and when they both realized it, things got all awkward. So Clark doesn't just have Chloe on his mind when Lana is out of the picture.I took Clark's infatuation with Lois in Crimson to be a simple matter of opportunity. After Lois kisses Clark, and he kisses her back in the DP room, Lois questions Clark's sincerity. Lois asks something like, "Is this real, one kiss and you like me?" And Clark's reaction told all, "(pause)........Um yeah, this is real?" Like he was distracted but had to say something. He didn't sound sincere at all. The hand holding in the hospital, was just a move to offer comfort/solace. He didn't mean anything by it. If Lois hadn't made a big deal of it, neither would he. Like another poster said, I too, believe he was interested in Chloe at that point.

Now we all know that Clark will end up with Lois, so this is not indicative of the future, but in the present he has no romantic feelings for Lois. He has more romantic feelings (compared to Lois, not Lana) for Chloe at this point, but that won't happen either.

[CloisLaneKent]

I took Clark's infatuation with Lois in Crimson to be a simple matter of opportunity. After Lois kisses Clark, and he kisses her back in the DP room, Lois questions Clark's sincerity. Lois asks something like, "Is this real, one kiss and you like me?" And Clark's reaction told all, "(pause)........Um yeah, this is real?" Like he was distracted but had to say something. He didn't sound sincere at all. The hand holding in the hospital, was just a move to offer comfort/solace. He didn't mean anything by it. If Lois hadn't made a big deal of it, neither would he. Like another poster said, I too, believe he was interested in Chloe at that point.

Now we all know that Clark will end up with Lois, so this is not indicative of the future, but in the present he has no romantic feelings for Lois. He has more romantic feelings (compared to Lois, not Lana) for Chloe at this point, but that won't happen either.

You're using RedK Clark and love potion Lois as an example? Please, thats one of the worst scenes I would use if you're going to downplay Clois interaction here. And no one is saying anything about him having any feelings for Lois at this point, so what is the point of even bringing their scenes up in a thread about Chloe's quote in Traveler?

[luvinChlark]

Okay...

I don't usually post in the section but Chloe's line just... Well, I couldn't keep my mouth shut this time.

I'm a Brasilian fan and I watched the scene on the internet and I've been reading all of your posts regarding Chloe's statement since yesterday.

I have to confess that I agree with practically most of the arguments presented here, even from the Clois fans and all.

I loved the scene. I was jumping up and down when I watched and was so happy about Chloe's honesty but there's soemthing bothering me.

TPTB always state that Clark and Chloe will never be together, that Chlois will never happen (they even laugh at the theory), they say Chloe and Clark are just really the best of friends and blah blah blah.

So WHY?

This is my question: Why Chloe?

Why have her say "I love your son", or have her stand up to Lana when she realized what he friend was becoming? Why have be so in sync with Clark? Why have Clark be so overprotective of her? Why have her know Clark better than his own girlfriend? Why have Lex say she's infatuated with Clark? Why have Jimmy jealous of Chlark friendship? Why have Clark to practically lose all control after finding out Chloe was dead?

And the list of whys goes on and on. You know them better than I do.


I know it's television and they would do anything to have us keep coming back for more. But if it is all teasing like Clois fan claim it to be.... What's the point?

I mean... Really...

They must have some kind of a plan envolving Chloe and Clark. They must have something for them more than teasing. I mean, they gave her the ability to heal and come back from the deads. The "I love your son" has to lead to something more.

Smallville is an AU, so anything and everything can happen.

I just wish they would rush to answer that list of whys a little. Come on! It's seven years of waiting...

I don't know...

Thats exactly how I feel too! If there is nothing that comes out of all it, why show it? I mean I know a lot of people are saying that Al/miles have said that they will show Clark moving on to Lois, I think this season. But after giving all these Chlark teases and such would they (the writers) seriously just forget about Chloe's feelings for Clark and have him move on to Lois? It just wouldn't make sense.

[Lostfan588]

. But after giving all these Chlark teases and such would they (the writers) seriously just forget about Chloe's feelings for Clark and have him move on to Lois? It just wouldn't make sense.

That would be so...twisted. :lol: Not only that, but there's only been like 3 Clark/Lois scenes the entire season. So that really makes me wonder what Al and Miles were thinking when they made the quip. I mean the Chloe/Lana tensions really played up this season, then lately (in that second half) we've been getting weird lines like "What you did, it goes beyond friendship", Lex telling Pete Chloe is still "infatuated" with Clark Kent, and Chloe telling Jor El "I love your son", thats not even including Clark's lines in Siren and Cure, and the reference in Gemini Jimmy makes about the meaning behind end of the world kisses.

[luvinChlark]

That would be so...twisted. :lol: Not only that, but there's only been like 3 Clark/Lois scenes the entire season. So that really makes me wonder what Al and Miles were thinking when they made the quip. I mean the Chloe/Lana tensions really played up this season, then lately (in that second half) we've been getting weird lines like "What you did, it goes beyond friendship", Lex telling Pete Chloe is still "infatuated" with Clark Kent, and Chloe telling Jor El "I love your son", thats not even including Clark's lines in Siren and Cure, and the reference in Gemini Jimmy makes about the meaning behind end of the world kisses.

Yeah when Jimmy said that all I thought about was the vessel kiss! ;) I just pray that all the chlarkyness is building up for something. :)

[IloveClark]

I hope so we deserve it after putting up with Clana for all these years no offense to the Clana fans.I'm not saying you shouldn't like them 'm just saying we deserve to be happy too.

[jazel]

TPTB always state that Clark and Chloe will never be together, that Chlois will never happen (they even laugh at the theory), they say Chloe and Clark are just really the best of friends and blah blah blah.

So WHY?

This is my question: Why Chloe?

Why have her say "I love your son", or have her stand up to Lana when she realized what he friend was becoming? Why have be so in sync with Clark? Why have Clark be so overprotective of her? Why have her know Clark better than his own girlfriend? Why have Lex say she's infatuated with Clark? Why have Jimmy jealous of Chlark friendship? Why have Clark to practically lose all control after finding out Chloe was dead?

And the list of whys goes on and on. You know them better than I do.


I know it's television and they would do anything to have us keep coming back for more. But if it is all teasing like Clois fan claim it to be.... What's the point?

I mean... Really...

They must have some kind of a plan envolving Chloe and Clark. They must have something for them more than teasing. I mean, they gave her the ability to heal and come back from the deads. The "I love your son" has to lead to something more.

Smallville is an AU, so anything and everything can happen.

I just wish they would rush to answer that list of whys a little. Come on! It's seven years of waiting...

I don't know...

My theory ? TPTB at Smallville, from the shows conception, NEVER had plans for a Chlark hook-up. Until feedback came in from viewers, they probably didn't even plan the kisses, or the unrequited crush on Chloe's part. The fictional, solely created by SV character, of Chloe, has surpassed even CK's importance on the show. I believe this is ONLY one of many corners, TPTB have painted themselves in.......so they throw ALL shippers, a "bone".....a bit of Clana here, a sprinkle of Chloe there, a Clois anvil here and there (once in a blue moon, actually:lol:).
Meanwhile Gough/Millar, continue to giggle, at their cleverness.:rolleyes:
Not taking into consideration, that MOST fans, might not "appreciate" how they play things out.:(
As a fan of Superman (the reason I tune in), I can honestly admit that I do NOT love the character of Chloe, as some do. In fact I want to see her, taken out of the "equation", just to see IF BDA, can handle things without her.....BUT Chloe supporters will say, he is who is, BECAUSE of Chloe, AND can NOT survive without her.:lol:
Have LOVED Superman LONG before Smallville. So I try to be open-minded, about SV's take on things. BUT it doesn't mean, I appreciate them destroying a LEGEND like they have, for me....The FOS is "hallowed" ground, BUT according to SV, it can be the "new" village bicycle....EVERYBODY gets a ride.:rotfl:

[GuardianAngel]

You took the words out of my mouth, Jazel! I couldn't agree with you more!

[jazel]

thanks ! Rick :D

[Arwenstar]

we are all aware of that, things have been that way, from the get-go. with everything that did transpire in the epi, it's just kinda surprising, to see some get so excited about something that is a long established fact.

Probably because Chlarkers are shippers, and shippers tend to get excited about love declarations and such...:D Seeing as how Chloe rarely says the 'L' word. If Lois had been the one at the FOS, proclaiming her love in such a dignified, yet humble manner in order to save the man she loved, I think Clois shippers would have been jumping up and down too. And it's a pretty established fact that Lois is supposed to love Clark, I presume. :rotfl:

I don't think anyone's surprised that Chloe loves Clark, is devoted to clark, blah blah blah Clark--I think people are touched and awed by the scene. Whether she meant it a platonic or a romantic sense? Up to the writers. Because Chloe included "Earth" and its people, and THEN said she loved his son, I can see the writers meaning to interpret as how the people in the future will love Superman because of his heroism.

[jazel]

I don't think anyone's surprised that Chloe loves Clark, is devoted to clark, blah blah blah Clark--I think people are touched and awed by the scene. Whether she meant it a platonic or a romantic sense? Up to the writers. Because Chloe included "Earth" and its people, and THEN said she loved his son, I can see the writers meaning to interpret as how the people in the future will love Superman because of his heroism.

Was NOT, "touched", or "awed" or by the scene......had ME thinking...... WHY the hell, is Chloe, is back on "hallowed" ground ? :\HONESTLY thought ONLY Clark could "activate" the FOS!:lol:
I honestly do NOT appreciate, Chloe being the "voice" of the future.....she loves him ? NO surprise there.:p
she had NO business being there, the first time around. Even Kara didn't seem all that impressed, w/ Chloe's plea:lol:

[Dustmite]

I've just watched this scene again and still found it to be amazing. I think it's the fact that Chloe's love activates the FoS coupled with her 'Everest' line and her knowledge about the key, etc that makes it so special.They could have had Lana make the plea but they didn't, it was Chloe and I believe it means something.

[curiosity]

Was NOT, "touched", or "awed" or by the scene......had ME thinking...... WHY the hell, is Chloe, is back on "hallowed" ground ? :\HONESTLY thought ONLY Clark could "activate" the FOS!:lol:
I honestly do NOT appreciate, Chloe being the "voice" of the future.....she loves him ? NO surprise there.:p
she had NO business being there, the first time around. Even Kara didn't seem all that impressed, w/ Chloe's plea:lol:


Clark would have been killed if she didn't. Lana doesn't know Jor El or anything about him or the FOS and had never been there, except when time was reversed, so it never happened. Chloe had, and actually survived it, and remembered it and knew how to get there, and what to say. And....let's not forget the biggest thing......it was Chloe's idea to do it to save Clark. So she was the one who knew what to do and how to do it, no one else. She's saved Clark a couple of times like this.

Clark's so lucky to have a friend like Chloe. As I remember, she ended up there the first time saving Clark, she pushed Lex away and ended up there. If she wouldn't have pushed Lex, he would have gone and found out about Clark.

[DWBSR620]

One thing is for sure and that is the series final season would not be a good time to explore a Clark and Chloe relationship. I believe that the love she has for Clark is deep and sincere, and that any sacrifice she would make would be born out of that loyalty. Hearing her saying to Jor-El that she loved his son the way she did was one the most heart felt declarations made that carried no evidence of any insincerity, and only that of desperation save him. Her plea of course didn't go unnoticed by Jor-El which allowed her to achieve what she set out to, and clearly showed her willingness if need be to do whatever was needed to protect or save Clark which may very well be a foreshadowing of Chloe's fate. Maybe? Take care.


Peace To All

[curiosity]

Clark won't be pining for anyone or falling for anyone any time soon. He will be too busy feeling forever guilty over Lana's catatonic state. That's just who he is. He won't let himself fall for anyone or be happy, because he will think that whoever he gets involved with, will end just like Lana.

It really doesn't matter if Lana will wake up or not. Clark will think it is all his fault, and he will decide to be forever alone. That's how the producers had decided to deal with Kristin absence next year. It is pretty obvious by the last Veritas trailler.

So, there is absoluty no hope for Clark falling for Lois, Chloe or Lori next year. He will be feeling guilty and miserable about Lana for all season 8. Which means that, once again, pretty much like in season 6, Clark will be physically alone, but emotionally linked to Lana. Sad, but true. Not even Kristin leaving the show can change SV fate of being forever about Clark and Lana.

I totally agree. Except, with Lois, she gets into trouble so much and almost gets herself killed so often that she's perfect for him. He has to save her most of the time without her knowing about it. So she's better off with him than without him. So maybe they can show the beginning of that and the beggining of his feelings for her. I hope he and Lana break up quickly so they can show that.

Surely they won't have him mope again.