"I love your son!!"

[go_clo]

We don't even know it takes longer per use or if it takes longer via the type of injury she heals. According to Fractured, Lex was basically shot and had everthing done to him in a roughly 16-18 hour time period. IMHO it's the injury.

Also we don't know what healing Clark would do to Chloe, ti may heal her of her infection period.
Ooh thats an interesting thought! :eek:
Maybe the amount of time it has to heal Chloe depends on how long they had the injury for and how bad the injury actually was. I never even thought of this!

[aqgalaxy]

Also - I feel like I need to pimp my fic on the Fracture Chlark scene. (I'll try to refrain.)


The Sun and the Moon (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86087) READ IT, it's great!

[AndiGirl]

You obviously don't get the point. It's not the revalation that Chloe loves Clark, it's the fact she told Jor-El she loves him, she used that as a reason for him to help her save his son. It's more then just "oh chloe loves Clark"

exactly...you dont shout you love someone in a cave when it's just friendship.

[thehenry89]

You obviously don't get the point. It's not the revalation that Chloe loves Clark, it's the fact she told Jor-El she loves him, she used that as a reason for him to help her save his son. It's more then just "oh chloe loves Clark"

No, i get the point. I just think it's kinda premature to get all happy about something we've known for years. Chloe does love Clark, but he doesn't love her. At present he's in love with the lana zombie.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Where's the link for the scene? I can't find it.

[aqgalaxy]

Ooh thats an interesting thought! :eek:
Maybe the amount of time it has to heal Chloe depends on how long they had the injury for and how bad the injury actually was. I never even thought of this!
Clark said it was 15 hours more then before right? meaning Chloe was out 3 hours last time. Chloe was at the DP when most likely when Lois was stabbed, it's a 3 hour drive maybe less depending on where the Dam was located.

[Sue Denim]

We do seem to see eye to eye on these things! Lets just be optomisitc for now!. haha. You pimp away!!! :lol:

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Or kill her...I'm sorry, it slipped! :p I'll be good!

The Sun and The Moon (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3621890&postcount=1)

[AndiGirl]

No, i get the point. I just think it's kinda premature to get all happy about something we've known for years. Chloe does love Clark, but he doesn't love her. At present he's in love with the lana zombie.

Or so he says. I think even Clark...the clueless BDA, knows there's no sparks there anymore. He's with Lana out of convenience. And convenitently enough...he decides to stay with her after Lois's meltdown about not being able to live with a man who leads a double life. He feels Lana is all he can get

[aqgalaxy]

Where's the link for the scene? I can't find it.

It's coming...patients is a virtue

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he doesn't love her.
You right he doesn't that's why he was jealous of Chlimmy in the first half of Season 6 and was overprotective of Chloe in Siren. He doesn't love her at all. IMHO it's a wait and see deal.

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He feels Lana is all he can get
Yeah, you're right. Also there is this feeling that he agreed to be with her knowing she faked her death and came out of hiding just to be with him too.

[Sue Denim]

No, i get the point. I just think it's kinda premature to get all happy about something we've known for years. Chloe does love Clark, but he doesn't love her. At present he's in love with the lana zombie.

This is where opinions and life experience vary. Clark does love Chloe. It's not about champagne and roses, but he does love her. Deeply and affectionately. More than she knows, and more than he knows. You have to look at his actions, not his words.

It's not a contest between Chloe and Lana. It's just the circumstances in his life that has led them to this place.

[SalvadorianGirl]

It's coming...patients is a virtue[/QUOTE]

:lol. I just realized she didn't post it. This post is going by way to fast, I can't keep things straight.

[AndiGirl]

It's coming...patients is a virtue

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You right he doesn't that's why he was jealous of Chlimmy in the first half of Season 6 and was overprotective of Chloe in Siren. He doesn't love her at all. IMHO it's a wait and see deal.

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Yeah, you're right. Also there is this feeling that he agreed to be with her knowing she faked her death and came out of hiding just to be with him too.

yea, talk about obligation...poor clark. :\

[aqgalaxy]

This is where opinions and life experience vary. Clark does love Chloe. It's not about champagne and roses, but he does love her. Deeply and affectionately. More than she knows, and more than he knows. You have to look at his actions, not his words.

It's not a contest between Chloe and Lana. It's just the circumstances in his life that has led them to this place.
OMG, here I am calling you Sue and you're name is Nancy! Sorry bella!

I agree with Nancy.

[thehenry89]

It's coming...patients is a virtue

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You right he doesn't that's why he was jealous of Chlimmy in the first half of Season 6 and was overprotective of Chloe in Siren. He doesn't love her at all. IMHO it's a wait and see deal.

Jealousy doesn't equal love there's a fine line between loving someone and getting upset when your best friend starts spending all their time with someone else. And of course clark was overprotective of chloe in siren, she's his best friend and he has a huge guilt complex.

[AndiGirl]

It's coming...patients is a virtue

:lol. I just realized she didn't post it. This post is going by way to fast, I can't keep things straight.[/QUOTE]

I know! I cant believe this has already gotten to 14 pages...and half of us havnt even seen the epiosode yet!:rotfl:

[Sue Denim]

OMG, here I am calling you Sue and you're name is Nancy! Sorry bella!

I agree with Nancy.

Call me either. Sue is my little joke. Sue Denim is a homonyme for psuedonym = false name.

[SalvadorianGirl]

getting upset when your best friend starts spending all their time with someone else.

But Chloe wasn't really spending most of her time with Jimmy. That was actually a problem that Jimmy had, that she was spending most her of time with Clark.

[AndiGirl]

Jealousy doesn't equal love there's a fine line between loving someone and getting upset when your best friend starts spending all their time with someone else. And of course clark was overprotective of chloe in siren, she's his best friend and he has a huge guilt complex.

There's a big difference between being a concerned friend and a jealous guy. Wanting Chloe's attention would have been one thing...but literally freaking out when he heard she had made out with him, or coughing in the DP when they were going to kiss. Clark wasnt acting like a jealous friend at all. But since he is her good friend...he did start to back off, right after chimmy's first break up. All he wants is for her to be happy...I wish the BDA would realize she would be happiest with him!

[aqgalaxy]

But Chloe wasn't really spending most of her time with Jimmy. That was actually a problem that Jimmy had, that she was spending most her of time with Clark.

Honestly I don't think we should get into a shipper debate. I'm a chlarker and I'm enjoying this Chlark mention if you will Moment.

[AndiGirl]

Call me either. Sue is my little joke. Sue Denim is a homonyme for psuedonym = false name.

clever! :lol:

[thehenry89]

But Chloe wasn't really spending most of her time with Jimmy. That was actually a problem that Jimmy had, that she was spending most her of time with Clark.

But that's still time he was used to her spending with him.

[aqgalaxy]

.he did start to back off, right after chimmy's first break up.

And then when his cousin started to show interest in Jimmy he made sure NOT to tell her he was taken. Was Clark planning on having Kara break Chlimmy up so he can get Chloe, but Lana returning ruined his plans? Poor Clark, Bizarro was right then huh? :lol:

[SalvadorianGirl]

But that's still time he was used to her spending with him.

Might be but by going with the events of Zod that were just two episodes prior to Writher, it was the call of a guy jealous beyond the means of friendship.

[aqgalaxy]

But that's still time he was used to her spending with him.

Yeah that's what Salvadorgirl meant. She spent the same amount of time, so your reason for his jealousy isn't valid. He wanted something else.

[AndiGirl]

I forgot about that....a "friend" doesnt conveniently forget to mention your boyrfriend is taken. Clark has an agenda! About time! Bizzaro was right....now if clark could just get with it!

[aqgalaxy]

now if clark could just get with it!I dunno, you made a point with that Clois scene and him still with Lana. Lois says, "when you look into his eyes and you know he's meant for something bigger for the world, how do cope with that" or something to that effect, could Clark think Chloe shares Lois's views?

[Sue Denim]

To be fair, I think that Clark was a little more concerned about Kara outing herself and Clark at the fair. Honestly, I thought Clark's reaction to the Karimmy interest was more or less, "What the hell do you guys see in him?" more than, "Wow, I might get Chloe on the rebound... AWESOME"

Sorry this has gone so far off topic, where's the clip at?

[AndiGirl]

I dunno, you made a point with that Clois scene and him still with Lana. Lois says, "when you look into his eyes and you know he's meant for something bigger for the world, how do cope with that" or something to that effect, could Clark think Chloe shares Lois's views?

Oh....I never thought about that! For two friends who are so close, they dont seem to read eachother very well when it comes to matters of the heart. How could Clark ever think chloe feels that way? And yet....I bet he does!

[thehenry89]

Yeah that's what Salvadorgirl meant. She spent the same amount of time, so your reason for his jealousy isn't valid. He wanted something else.


No, He wanted Lana. It has been shown consitantly and without a doubt for the last 5 years that given a choice Clark will choose lana over chloe every day of the week and twice on sunday.

Clark just lost his dad, his mother was moving further away from him and more toward washington. Pete's in wichita and Lana's dating Lex. Chloe was all he had left, of course he's gonna be terretorial toward anyone or anything threating his friendship with her.

[SalvadorianGirl]

could Clark think Chloe shares Lois's views?

Doubt it. She's been by his side for 4 years knowing his secret. I feel he knows Chloe's the only one who can handle sharing him with the world.

[megsy]

I want to see the clip tooo :(

[go_clo]

Gah! I'm debating whether to watch it or not! I kinda wanna wait....but I kinda want to NOT wait!
It'd be nice to know what we are all talking about and gushing over! :lol:

[AndiGirl]

Doubt it. She's been by his side for 4 years knowing his secret. I feel he knows Chloe's the only one who can handle sharing him with the world.

Yea...but does Clark realize that?

[Bo Duke Bo Duke]

Ooh thats an interesting thought! :eek:
Maybe the amount of time it has to heal Chloe depends on how long they had the injury for and how bad the injury actually was. I never even thought of this!

I thought about the fact that to heal Clark it would need alot of "energy" from Chloe, more then any human anyways. He could bring her in the Forteress and put her in ice (to hopefully prevent her body from "decaying" hehe) and wait a 100 years before she wakes up! :lol:

[aqgalaxy]

Jealousy doesn't equal love

From obscura:

Clark: Chloe likes me.

Lana: So how do you feel about her?

Clark: Like maybe we could be more than friends. When I saw her with Justin today, I got kinda...

Lana: Jealous?

Clark nods his head.

Clark: It's like you find out this secret and it colors everything. I just can't believe I never saw it before.

Lana: Sometimes the right person can be right in front of your eyes and you never even know it.

[AndiGirl]

Gah! I'm debating whether to watch it or not! I kinda wanna wait....but I kinda want to NOT wait! :lol:

I think I may hold off too! I dont want to wreck the moment now...shoot!

[aqgalaxy]

Yea...but does Clark realize that?

It'll enforce the idea that Clark's a BDA

[AndiGirl]

It'll enforce the idea that Clark's a BDA

Forever our poor little BDA.

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He has always been oblivious with girls...wouldnt surprise me. It's like he has no idea how hot, and sweet he is! ;)

[go_clo]

It'll enforce the idea that Clark's a BDA
It may be a stupid question but I'm knew around here so can someone explain what BDA stands for?! ;)

[thehenry89]

From obscura:

Clark: Chloe likes me.

Lana: So how do you feel about her?

Clark: Like maybe we could be more than friends. When I saw her with Justin today, I got kinda...

Lana: Jealous?

Clark nods his head.

Clark: It's like you find out this secret and it colors everything. I just can't believe I never saw it before.

Lana: Sometimes the right person can be right in front of your eyes and you never even know it.

that was 6 years ago, not to mention he said maybe i like her as more then a friend. And if you rember correctly they went out for three episodes and she promptly dumped him over her own insecurites.

Also he was stalking lana within a few weeks of his break up, so obviously he wasn't as broken up about it as she was. This is also in the same year as the infamous fever letter incident. So like I said Clark will consitantly pick Lana over everyone else every day of the week and twice on sunday.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Yea...but does Clark realize that?

Vessel is enough proof of that.

[Sue Denim]

It may be a stupid question but I'm knew around here so can someone explain what BDA stands for?! ;)
Big Dumb Alien

[AndiGirl]

It may be a stupid question but I'm knew around here so can someone explain what BDA stands for?! ;)

Big dumb Alien :lol:

[go_clo]

lol thanks guys for explaining the BDA thing to me! Thats so funny!! :rotfl:


I thought about the fact that to heal Clark it would need alot of "energy" from Chloe, more then any human anyways. He could bring her in the Forteress and put her in ice (to hopefully prevent her body from "decaying" hehe) and wait a 100 years before she wakes up! :lol:
Well at least we have a plan! :lol:


I think I may hold off too! I dont want to wreck the moment now...shoot!
Ya I'd like it to be new to me when I watch the whole thing! That way my gushing with my sister when we watch it won't be so forced just to hide the fact I watched it already from my sister! :p


Doubt it. She's been by his side for 4 years knowing his secret. I feel he knows Chloe's the only one who can handle sharing him with the world.
I love that she seems to be the only one in his life to accept that! Clark better know it!!!!

[oldblackmagick]

i like BSDA=big sweet dumb alien...it just seems not as mean:p

[jazel]

agreed, look I'm a big fan of the whole chlark friendship I even shipped them in season 2 and 3, but honestly it's really not a revalation that chloe loves clark. This is being blown waaaay outa proportion.

agreed !:D
me too (fan of Chlark friendship)....friendship is a beautiful thing, why ruin it, by expecting a romantic turn ? SEVEN years, is kind of late in the game, for me anyway.:(
I'd love for ALL viewers, to be happy with how things play out, but when there's a group out there, that demands things go the way they expect, or have imagined it (or they won't be happy), it just gets down right creepy. Sorry Chlarker's, but the fact that three simple words, have you guys missing everything else of importance that's played out in the epi, should be a major indicator of that.
I haven't even seen Traveler yet, BUT I'm anticipating Veritas more so, because the whole Chlark thing has to be put in a perspective where things are pretty crystal clear. Even if Chloe loves CK like that, think it's been long established that CK doesn't love her like that.:\
Won't you guy feel cheated, IF all of sudden, CK turns around, and says "yeah, guess I do love Chloe like that."? I know, I would.:rolleyes:

[Sue Denim]

that was 6 years ago, not to mention he said maybe i like her as more then a friend. And if you rember correctly they went out for three episodes and she promptly dumped him over her own insecurites.

Also he was stalking lana within a few weeks of his break up, so obviously he wasn't as broken up about it as she was. This is also in the same year as the infamous fever letter incident. So like I said Clark will consitantly pick Lana over everyone else every day of the week and twice on sunday.

I can't disagree that show wants romantic Clana. However, I think Clark only picks Lana over Chloe for romance - (yeah, it's big deal, but not the defining element of one's character). That doesn't mean that Clark doesn't love Chloe, deeply and affectionately. I had a blurry friendship like Chlarks (it's probably why I love Chlark so much) and I can tell you, it's impossible not to have interest or return interest. That's my life experience and Chlark is what I can relate too.

When Chloe tell Jor-El that she loves his son, that should move any parent's heart. And to also know that this human has saved Kal el on more than once, that will hit harder yet. I want to hear those words now! Clip please!

I do respect the points made, I just disagree and that's cool. It's what makes things fun.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Won't you guy feel cheated, IF all of sudden, CK turns around, and says "yeah, guess I do love Chloe like that."

Nope. Because it would play out like every classic best friends turn lovers storytelling. And in every one of those, all it takes is for one moment to make him open up his eyes to seeing that the girl he truely wanted all this time was right under his nose.

[thehenry89]

Nope. Because it would play out like every classic best friends turn lovers storytelling. And in every one of those, all it takes is for one moment to make him open up his eyes to seeing that the girl he truely wanted all this time was right under his nose.

I wouldn't feel cheated, I just wouldn't buy it.

[go_clo]

It depends on how they got together. If Clark and Lana break up and 5 seconds later he hooked up with Chloe, then yes I would feel cheated. For me, it really just depends on how they got together!

I'm perfectly happy with their friendship, it would just be nice to have more then that for them, especially with all the cheap shots and anvils the writers throw at us hinting that these 2 should be together!

[Ilovebeinglost]

Ok guys I hope this works.. I love your son

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7037907044989415972&hl=en-CA

tell me if it works

[jazel]

I just wouldn't buy it.

nor would I. :eek:

[Ilovebeinglost]

did everyone go to bed? can you guys see the video I posted above?

[megsy]

Awesome thanks Ilovebeinglost :)

[jazel]

Ok guys I hope this works.. I love your son

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7037907044989415972&hl=en-CA

tell me if it works
It works, BUT the scene is too funny. Chloe has no business being there, she's still freezing.:lol:
FOS is Superman's hallowed ground.:p

[Ilovebeinglost]

ok great I can go to bed now. I need a faster connection LOL

[Twitch]

did everyone go to bed?

:rotfl:

You finally get the video up and everyone disappears!

Good work, that's nice of you to put it up for those who haven't seen it yet.

[thehenry89]

Ok guys I hope this works.. I love your son

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7037907044989415972&hl=en-CA

tell me if it works

thanks!!

now that i've seen i'm even more convinced it's being blown out of proportion. give me some tears, give me a heart felt sob. i show more passion and romantic love when i'm seasoning a ribeye. it was a fuzzy friendship moment i'll admit, but nothing more.

[Ilovebeinglost]

It works, BUT the scene is too funny. Chloe has no business being there, she's still freezing.:lol:
FOS is Superman's hallowed ground.:p


oh shut up and go to bed :D

[go_clo]

:rotfl:

You finally get the video up and everyone disappears!

Good work, that's nice of you to put it up for those who haven't seen it yet.
Poor ilovebeinglost! :lol:

I'm here, I just don't want to watch it yet. I wanna wait for the episode to air! ;)

[jazel]

oh shut up and go to bed :D

nope never !!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Chloe and Clark forever:p:p:p

[Sue Denim]

Oh, that was worth the wait. I loved it!

[aqgalaxy]

oh shut up and go to bed :D

Thanks for the link bella, it's just as I thought it would be! :)

[jazel]

GREAT job, Ilovebeinglost !!!

[SuperKyptonGirl13]

Thanks ILoveBeingLost :)

[isagill chlark fan]

Ok guys I hope this works.. I love your son

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7037907044989415972&hl=en-CA

tell me if it works

thanks for the link now i can go to be, :eek:

[D.M.A.]

Yeah, you're right. Also there is this feeling that he agreed to be with her knowing she faked her death and came out of hiding just to be with him too.
And also why Bizarro tells him he's 2 concern wit doin the right thing.Clark feels guilty for what lana has done/become,and might feel she is all that he has left.Cause if sumone like lois confess she can't take it,yet lana can(in his mind) his choices r limited.I think thats why sum believe it'll be ironic when clark realize later he has chloe or lois,dependin on where the show leads.



Still,chloe confession sounds great and says alot.We knew,but she never admit it out loud.So hopefully kara slowly remembers all that happen later in the season.I doubt at first,but hopefully it'll slowly comeback and she calls chloe on it(or clark) :)

[jazel]

And also why Bizarro tells him he's 2 concern wit doin the right thing.Clark feels guilty for what lana has done/become,and might feel she is all that he has left.Cause if sumone like lois confess she can't take it,yet lana can(in his mind) his choices r limited.I think thats why sum believe it'll be ironic when clark realize later he has chloe or lois,dependin on where the show leads.



Still,chloe confession sounds great and says alot.We knew,but she never admit it out loud.So hopefully kara slowly remembers all that happen later in the season.I doubt at first,but hopefully it'll slowly comeback and she calls chloe on it(or clark) :)

what :confused:

[D.M.A.]

I dunno, you made a point with that Clois scene and him still with Lana. Lois says, "when you look into his eyes and you know he's meant for something bigger for the world, how do cope with that" or something to that effect, could Clark think Chloe shares Lois's views?
Well since clark knows lois found out ollie's secret,luvs him,yet still steps aside...He might believe she does.It would make sense,that tho chloe supports his heroics she'd never want him because she can't share him.Even tho all 3 girls have diff views/opinions,but we all know clark is slow.So he might believe it,I do think lois confession in siren lead to him forgivin lana.If lana/lois r diff(so clark says)and lois can't cope wit it/lana so far has,then clark may be doin what he feels is right.Its hard to say wit clark lol

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Poor ilovebeinglost! :lol:

I'm here, I just don't want to watch it yet. I wanna wait for the episode to air! ;)
I'm tryin to do the same,but it is very temptin after readin all these posts :lol:

[heavens_cry]

I cant wait to see this episode. I am so excited thanks for the info... Go Chloe.

[go_clo]

I'm tryin to do the same,but it is very temptin after readin all these posts :lol:
:lol: I know! Why must it be so tempting! Why can my will power be no stronger?!
I'm actually doing ok, now that posting in this thread has died down a bit, I think I'll be able to hold out till sunday....I hope! :\

[Dustmite]

Oh, I can't wait to see this. I haven't been this excited for an episode in ages.

[lillie_poo_pod]

*sniffles* That was beautiful. Thanks for posting the clip!

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Oh, I can't wait to see this. I haven't been this excited for an episode in ages.
I know! I'm not used to this feeling.

[Dustmite]

I know! I'm not used to this feeling.

Me either ;)

I've just seen the clip (about 10 times) and I love it so much. She told Jor-El to trust her because she loved his son and he did. He restored Kara's memory. That's huge considering the little regard that Jor-El has for the human race.

Love love love love love!!!!!

[DGirlLois4Clark]

She loves Kal-El? Well..duh.
So do I..I'll do anything for him too:p

[theotherJane]

thanks!!

now that i've seen i'm even more convinced it's being blown out of proportion. give me some tears, give me a heart felt sob. i show more passion and romantic love when i'm seasoning a ribeye. it was a fuzzy friendship moment i'll admit, but nothing more.

Same here. I expected her to choke up a bit and have a tear or two fall down her face. But we all know she still has feelings for him.

[Sue Denim]

Well since clark knows lois found out ollie's secret,luvs him,yet still steps aside...He might believe she does.It would make sense,that tho chloe supports his heroics she'd never want him because she can't share him.Even tho all 3 girls have diff views/opinions,but we all know clark is slow.So he might believe it,I do think lois confession in siren lead to him forgivin lana.If lana/lois r diff(so clark says)and lois can't cope wit it/lana so far has,then clark may be doin what he feels is right.Its hard to say wit clark lol

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I'm tryin to do the same,but it is very temptin after readin all these posts :lol:
I don't buy this idea. I see the logic in it, but in "Cure" Clark catagorizes himself outside of Chloe's friends and family. "You're going to forget your friends, your family: You're going to forget me. You're going to forget me." He's hurt.

Clark is stunned at the idea that Chloe would choose to forget him, so, I'm not sure that Clark believes Chloe shares the same view point as Lois. In "Zod" does Martha plea to Jor-el in anyway as he tells her what to do? Seems interesting that the three humans that have talked to Jor-El are Jonathan, Martha and now Chloe.

[sabi908]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That was totally platonic...esp in the context it was said...lol well whatever floats the chlarkers boats or ships :)


Anyways we all know Chloe loves Clark but the feelings arent returned. Even Clark under Red K testified to this.

[chlarkfan333]

Seems interesting that the three humans that have talked to Jor-El are Jonathan, Martha and now Chloe.

This is what I brought up when the FoS spoilers first came out. I was curious to see how Jor-El would interact with Chloe. I don't know what to make of the fact that he didn't respond to verbally at all, but the route they went turned out to be very effective, imo.

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That was totally platonic...esp in the context it was said...lol well whatever floats the chlarkers boats or ships :)


Yes indeed, whatever floats our ships. :) Couple of episodes ago Cloisers got that heartfelt Clois moment and hug in Siren and this time Chlarkers get one. Nothing wrong with that. :D

[Yasise]

Just watched the clip from Ilovebeinglost, didn't watch the episode yet.

As far as I can judge from that short clip, I think, Chloe says "I love your son" in order to convince Jor-El that she doesn't mean any harm for Clark. I don't think, that was ment to be the big "Chloe confessed her love for Clark" moment. Everybody, included Clark, knows, Chloe loves Clark, but there is no chance for a relationship beyond the friendship they already have.

In that scene she wants Jor-El to trust her and believe in her intentions, because everyone, who gets the octagonal key and knows how to use it or anybod, who can fly, can get into the FOS.

Even Brainiac was there, wasn't he? So, I don't think (as I read before in a post here), only true hearted people are allowed to get into the FOS. Brainiac wasn't at all true hearted, was he? Or Zor-El? Or Bizarro?

Soooo, we all know, and the producers told us either, Chloe will always love Clark, even if she's with someone else, but fact is, Clark will always love her "only" as a friend.

I'm 100% sure, that Chloe would give her life in order to save Clark's and vice versa, and I used to think, that she was given that special power, because she's ment to finally save Clark and die in the process.

BUT now I think, this would be so much obvious, like 1+1=2, that I actually doubt it now. Well, let's see, what is going to happen in the ep's to come.

I've read somewhere, that Clark is supposed to get closer to Lois by the end of the season and that would make more sense, than a short intermezzo with Chloe on the way there.
I'm sorry for all Chlark shippers, but come on, let's face it - we all know, with whom Clark will end up with.
It would make no sense to have Chlark now. It would just destroy their wonderful friendship and that would be a shame!

[aqgalaxy]

I've read somewhere, that Clark is supposed to get closer to Lois by the end of the season and that would make more sense, than a short intermezzo with Chloe on the way there.

See, that makes absolutely no sense. This show is making it cannon with practically every episode that Chloe's the girl for him. Her saying to Jor-El she loves his son was more the Platonic, because of the music and the desperation in her voice. She doesn't shed a tear because she's showing her strength YMMV. Now why have Clark fall for Lois when Lois told Clark she doesn't want to be with someone who's destiny is bigger then her own? Why would Clark want to deepen his friendship with Lois when he's everything Lois doesn't want to be attached to?

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That was totally platonic.
I really like to know what your definition of Platonic cause imho it was more then that.

[lauraforever]

My chlark heart skipped a beat when I read about the quote.

[Yasise]

See, that makes absolutely no sense. This show is making it cannon with practically every episode that Chloe's the girl for him. Her saying to Jor-El she loves his son was more the Platonic, because of the music and the desperation in her voice. She doesn't shed a tear because she's showing her strength YMMV. Now why have Clark fall for Lois when Lois told Clark she doesn't want to be with someone who's destiny is bigger then her own? Why would Clark want to deepen his friendship with Lois when he's everything Lois doesn't want to be attached to?


Well, sense or no sense, it will happen!
Even Lana said it to Clark in the beginning of S4, when they were in the caves, that "The good relationships always start like that" or something similar, after Clark told her, what he thinks about Lois.
Chloe is Clark's ultimate sidekick and that's it. She is/was not and will never be "his girl".

And of course her saying "I love your son" was passionate and believable, because she just do love him and maybe she will never love another person more than him. But there is still the fact, that Clark doesn't feel the same and never will.

Sorry, but I strongly doubt that this is going to change.

[chlarkfan333]

I don't think it was a romantic declaration either, but it sure seems like an epic moment. I don't know what TATB have in store, but Clois is the least of my concerns. Yes, it will end on some sort of Clois note, but I that's all. Anyway, after 7 years of watching the Chlark relationship blossom and grow, I am far more interested in where they go with that. :D

So, yay for tonight's episode! :D

[GuardianAngel]

Just watched the clip from Ilovebeinglost, didn't watch the episode yet.

Even Brainiac was there, wasn't he? So, I don't think (as I read before in a post here), only true hearted people are allowed to get into the FOS. Brainiac wasn't at all true hearted, was he? Or Zor-El? Or Bizarro?


That's different. BRAINIAC was brought to the FOS by Clark himself.
Bizarro had Clark's DNA and as soon as he talked to Jor-el, the FOS started to shake to send him away and awake Clark.

Zor-el is another matter, but remember he got out of the Blue crystal only once it was inserted in the FOS console, not before. When he was happily flying and walking around the FOS, it was because the blue crystal took control of the FOS and Jor-el was "offline".

[Yasise]

That's different. BRAINIAC was brought to the FOS by Clark himself.
Bizarro had Clark's DNA and as soon as he talked to Jor-el, the FOS started to shake to send him away and awake Clark.

Zor-el is another matter, but remember he got out of the Blue crystal only once it was inserted in the FOS console, not before. When he was happily flying and walking around the FOS, it was because the FOS was overridden by the blue crystal.

Some guys here posted, that maybe only true hearted persons are able to enter the FOS and that this might be the reason, why there is no Lana in that "I love your son" scene.
I wanted to point out, that there already have been so many, obviously not true hearted people in the FOS.
I can't see any differences. Either only good persons are able to get there, no matter the circumstances how they got there, or not. And it's obviously the latter. There is no self defence mechanism of the FOS or of Jor-El or whatever out there, to prevent bad persons from coming in, IMO.

[GuardianAngel]

I was just clarifying a point but I agree, there is no real mechanism to prevent anyone from getting to the FOS, really.

[Yasise]

I don't think it was a romantic declaration either, but it sure seems like an epic moment. I don't know what TATB have in store, but Clois is the least of my concerns. Yes, it will end on some sort of Clois note, but I that's all. Anyway, after 7 years of watching the Chlark relationship blossom and grow, I am far more interested in where they go with that. :D

So, yay for tonight's episode! :D

Yes, no romance at all, but it was surely a wonderful and emotional moment.

And after 7 years the Chlark relationship just grew into a great friendship. Clark is closer to Chloe in some terms, than he is with Lana and Chloe is aware of that. But still, even if I feel sorry for Chloe for all those years of unrequited love, I can't see a way for them to have a love relationship now. It just wouldn't make sense.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Even Lana said it to Clark in the beginning of S4, when they were in the caves, that "The good relationships always start like that" or

In real life, relationships in which two people can barely call themselves friends don't exactly end up with the two of them being together.

And has it's been pointed out, we have been shown throughtout the years why Lana and Lois are not the girls for Clark.

Lana is a girl who will kill for Clark. A girl who criticizes Clark for not having the balls to kill Lex.

Lois is a girl who can't handle the double life. A girl who can't be with a man who destiny is bigger than her, a girl who can't handle sharing her man with the world.

Neither two are qualified to be the one Clark needs.

[Yasise]

In real life, relationships in which two people can barely call themselves friends don't exactly end up with the two of them being together.

And has it's been pointed out, we have been shown throughtout the years why Lana and Lois are not the girls for Clark.

Lana is a girl who will kill for Clark. A girl who criticizes Clark for not having the balls to kill Lex.

Lois is a girl who can't handle the double life. A girl who can't be with a man who destiny is bigger than her, a girl who can't handle sharing her man with the world.

Neither two are qualified to be the one Clark needs.

Well, sometimes your love for someone can outgrow your attitudes. Maybe she didn't love Oliver enough?

And I do think, that Clark's relationship with Lois has definetly become warmer than it was in the beginning. And since the beginning there also have been so many hints, that there could be more than just a normal friendship between them. The loft scene between Lois and Clark in the end of "Crimson", e.g., to mention only one.

I strongly believe, that true love can outgrow every attitude and every doubt. If you really love somebody, your're willing to do everything for the sake of being with him/her.

[Kalista]

Me either ;)

I've just seen the clip (about 10 times) and I love it so much. She told Jor-El to trust her because she loved his son and he did. He restored Kara's memory. That's huge considering the little regard that Jor-El has for the human race.

Love love love love love!!!!!


You know what's funny. Some have implied that Jor-El was hostile to Chloe at the FOS and that Martha and Lois received VIP treatment........:lol:

[SalvadorianGirl]

If you really love somebody, your're willing to do everything for the sake of being with him/her.


Even having to lie and deceive the person you love. Make the person believe you're something that you're truly not.

Because if that's the case, than poor Clark. Man is never ever going to have a healthy relationship. First Lana and than Lois. Sucks to be him.

[Yasise]

You know what's funny. Some have implied that Jor-El was hostile to Chloe at the FOS and that Martha and Lois received VIP treatment........:lol:

Yes, that's funny. I wonder what Jor-El was expected to say at all. I think, it was good as it was, with no comment from Jor-El.
He restored Kara's memories and her powers, that was his answer. IMO, it would have destroyed the moment, if he would have said anything to Chloe.

And again my question is: What was there to say for Jor-El ? "Thank you for loving my son?" *lol* That would have been soooo campy, wouldn't it?
Sometimes there's no need for words at all. This scene was good without any comment of Jor-El's.

[aqgalaxy]

Well, sometimes your love for someone can outgrow your attitudes. Maybe she didn't love Oliver enough?

And I do think, that Clark's relationship with Lois has definetly become warmer than it was in the beginning. And since the beginning there also have been so many hints, that there could be more than just a normal friendship between them. The loft scene between Lois and Clark in the end of "Crimson", e.g., to mention only one.

I strongly believe, that true love can outgrow every attitude and every doubt. If you really love somebody, your're willing to do everything for the sake of being with him/her.

See that's what I don't understand about Cloisers. Lois and Clark can grow into eachother as you basically implied, but it's too far of a grasp for Clark to fall for Chloe?

See I know what the problem is, if Chlark does indeed happen, it cheapens Clois.

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Yes, that's funny. I wonder what Jor-El was expected to say at all. I think, it was good as it was, with no comment from Jor-El.
He restored Kara's memories and her powers, that was his answer. IMO, it would have destroyed the moment, if he would have said anything to Chloe.

I agree, no words were needed, Jor-El didn't have Chloe make this deal. He obeyed a request by a human, who seems to understand his decision for sending his son to earth. IMHO that says a lot.

Ok I do agree it may not be outright romantic, but it was Epic and passionate. It shows Chloe still loves Clark, most never doubted that.

[GuardianAngel]

Would you honestly like Clark to fall for Chloe now? In season 7? I could understand if this was, say, season 3, but in season 7??
It would be lamer than Clana and disrespectful to Chloe's character, too.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I think the most important part here is that Chloe, just a lowly human was able to convince Jor el to do something for the greater good.

She did great and I can see why she was chosen to do the speaking. Lana could never have pulled that off because she either whispers or has to get really pissed and angry in order to speak up. I can see why Lana was left out of that scene. Now all they have to do is explain why she didn't go besides the fact that her heart has darkened

AM did a great job in my opinion. A great job!

One more thing, maybe Terry Stamp was not available for this so no voice was needed, he was moved by human emotion just as he was by Martha.

[Yasise]

Even having to lie and deceive the person you love. Make the person believe you're something that you're truly not.

Because if that's the case, than poor Clark. Man is never ever going to have a healthy relationship. First Lana and than Lois. Sucks to be him.

Well, that's his - sorry for using it - destiny. I feel sorry for him, too, as well as for his loved ones.

[SalvadorianGirl]

disrespectful to Chloe's character, too.

How would it be disrespectful to Chloe? That fact that the man she's loved for years opened up his eyes and realized that he loved her too.

[GuardianAngel]

You do realise Smallville will probably end with season 8, don't you? And that the woman in Clark's future is Lois, not Lana or Chloe?

Clana will end (soon I hope!) and personally I hope that after that Clark realises he can do good for the whole world, not just Smallville and another love story would take him away from his destiny... again!

[myankskent]

And of course her saying "I love your son" was passionate and believable, because she just do love him and maybe she will never love another person more than him. But there is still the fact, that Clark doesn't feel the same and never will.


Excluding the "never will" part because I don't want to get people all worked up here, you're 100 percent correct. It's unbelievable to me how everytime Chloe says that she loves Clark, it's like some surprising moment on this show. I think that we all know by now that Clark and Chloe love each other, but romantically? Maybe it still exists on Chloe's side, although she seems wrapped up with Jimmy these days, but on Clark's side, he doesn't feel the same way. He loves her, but as a friend. Unless that changes, I really don't see the point in getting all worked up about TPTB building toward Chlark. I've heard that argument now for the last several seasons and nothing has changed.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Well, that's his - sorry for using it - destiny. I feel sorry for him, too, as well as for his loved ones.

So than I pretty much just wasted seven years of Clana to have Clark go through the same ******** of secrets and lies with Lois.

Clark is one dumb motherf than.

[Yasise]

See that's what I don't understand about Cloisers. Lois and Clark can grow into eachother as you basically implied, but it's too far of a grasp for Clark to fall for Chloe?

See I know what the problem is, if Chlark does indeed happen, it cheapens Clois.



I'm not a Chloiser, nor a Chlarker, nor a Clana'er. I only ship Clark himself *lol*.

Yes, you surely have a point, with what you've said. Of course it is not too far of a grasp, that Clark and Chloe could fall for each other. In fact, Chloe already did long time ago.
But it's just not ment to be and we all know it. So why go on wanting something, that is bound to end soon and would destroy their precious friendship?

[Kalista]

If we are to go by the Action meta, Lois is to die by getting in over her head trying to take down Lex.

;)

[aqgalaxy]

Would you honestly like Clark to fall for Chloe now? In season 7? I could understand if this was, say, season 3, but in season 7??
It would be lamer than Clana and disrespectful to Chloe's character, too.
First of all I didn't want Chlark in the earlier years, IMHO it didn't make sense then.

Saying it's disrespectful to Chloe, then add Lois too.

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It's unbelievable to me how everytime Chloe says that she loves Clark, it's like some surprising moment on this show.
You know why? This is the only time she genuinely said it. Only other time was in Devoted.

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But it's just not ment to be
Says who? Superman Mythos? Please, This show is an AU. If they can have Jimmy Olsen in an episode where Pete Ross was Elastic Lad, then then they can have a show where Clark ends up with Lois Lane's cousin.

[SalvadorianGirl]

So why go on wanting something, that is bound to end soon and would destroy their precious friendship?

Only way Chlark would end soon is if Chloe literally dead in Clark's arm. Nothing short of that would separate the two. They have the makings of everything that one needs to have that "perfect" relationship. Everything that Clana is trying to create and failing at that.

[Kalista]

Yes, that's funny. I wonder what Jor-El was expected to say at all. I think, it was good as it was, with no comment from Jor-El.
He restored Kara's memories and her powers, that was his answer. IMO, it would have destroyed the moment, if he would have said anything to Chloe.

And again my question is: What was there to say for Jor-El ? "Thank you for loving my son?" *lol* That would have been soooo campy, wouldn't it?
Sometimes there's no need for words at all. This scene was good without any comment of Jor-El's.

I don't see your point... I wasn't implying that Jor-El should have verbalized anything.:confused:

[aqgalaxy]

How would it be disrespectful to Chloe? That fact that the man she's loved for years opened up his eyes and realized that he loved her too.

Honestly wouldn't it be disrespectful for Clark to still love Lois after the years she had a thing for Superman? I mean if not done right, one can say Lois Lane fell for Clark cause he reminded her of Superman, and once she learns the secret she gained her hero. So I don't know why it'll be disrespectful to Chloe.

[Yasise]

I think the most important part here is that Chloe, just a lowly human was able to convince Jor el to do something for the greater good......
.

"Greater good"??? He helped them so they would be able to save his son. I don't think, any father has to be convinced to save his son. He only had to be convinced, that Chloe told the truth, I guess.


So than I pretty much just wasted seven years of Clana to have Clark go through the same ******** of secrets and lies with Lois.

Clark is one dumb motherf than.

We don't know yet, if it will be the same between Lois and Clark. Maybe he will be able to trust her sooner than he did trust Lana. Who knows? He will be older and more mature then and he trusted so many people till today and not all of them betrayed him. So he maybe will handle this "secrets and lies" topic different than he did with Lana?

[Kalista]

Excluding the "never will" part because I don't want to get people all worked up here, you're 100 percent correct. It's unbelievable to me how everytime Chloe says that she loves Clark, it's like some surprising moment on this show. I think that we all know by now that Clark and Chloe love each other, but romantically? Maybe it still exists on Chloe's side, although she seems wrapped up with Jimmy these days, but on Clark's side, he doesn't feel the same way. He loves her, but as a friend. Unless that changes, I really don't see the point in getting all worked up about TPTB building toward Chlark. I've heard that argument now for the last several seasons and nothing has changed.


:rolleyes:

[aqgalaxy]

So why go on wanting something, that is bound to end soon and would destroy their precious friendship?I married my Best friend, so I don't see your argument as valid.

Also, you think THAT precious friendship will last if Clois got together? Nope.

[myankskent]

First of all I didn't want Chlark in the earlier years, IMHO it didn't make sense then.

Saying it's disrespectful to Chloe, then add Lois too.


How is it disrespectful to Lois? She's never been in love with Clark and had her heart broken because he was in love with Lana.




You know why? This is the only time she genuinely said it. Only other time was in Devoted.

I think that it's been clear that Chloe has always loved Clark, whether she said it or not. Also, friends do love each other as well so how do I know that Chloe isn't referring to Clark as a friend in this scene, especially since all signs point toward her wanting Jimmy when looking at this season. I'm still stuck on the idea of how this changes things. Clark is the one who hasn't expressed romantic feelings for Chloe and who instead, wants Lana.

[aqgalaxy]

"Greater good"??? He helped them so they would be able to save his son. I don't think, any father has to be convinced to save his son. He only had to be convinced, that Chloe told the truth, I guess.

Well I dunno. He trapped Clark in the fortress, that doesn't help people and in fact if it weren't for Bizarro, Chloe and Jimmy would have been killed. Also if Jor-El had the power to freeze Clark, why didn't he do the same thing to Bizarro when he was at the fortress? Also why didn't Jor-El save his son when Brainiac used the green K on Clark in the fortress? Why didn't Jor-El assist in blocking access of the blue crystal to the FoS's system. If this show proves anything, Jor-El doesn't go out of his way to help his son.

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How is it disrespectful to Lois? Cause she'll be treated as second to Lana? And he'll be willing to do exactly what Lois doesn't want and to have her date a man who she has to share with the world.

[Yasise]

I married my Best friend, so I don't see your argument as valid.

Also, you think THAT precious friendship will last if Clois got together? Nope.

Well, Clana got together and the Chlark friendship survived it. Why should Clois be able to destroy it?

[aqgalaxy]

We don't know yet, if it will be the same between Lois and Clark. Maybe he will be able to trust her sooner than he did trust Lana. Who knows? He will be older and more mature then and he trusted so many people till today and not all of them betrayed him. So he maybe will handle this "secrets and lies" topic different than he did with Lana?
Again, in Siren, Lois Lane, told Clark she doesn't want to share someone who'll make her feel second to the world. Whether Clark grows to trust her or not, would he even consider Lois is a woman for him when she told him that she can't share her man with the world?

[myankskent]

Cause she'll be treated as second to Lana?


Unless Lois develops romantic feelings for Clark while he is with Lana and gets passed up because Clark wants to be with Lana, I don't see how Lois will be treated as second to Lana.

[aqgalaxy]

Well, Clana got together and the Chlark friendship survived it. Why should Clois be able to destroy it?

For years Chloe heard about Clark's feelings for Lana blah blah, to where she accepts it. To think Her cousin was able to take Clark's heart away from Lana, would be a slap in the face to Chloe, she'll wonder "why couldn't he ever love me" she'll put on a brave face, a fake smile, and then leave their life.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Well, Clana got together and the Chlark friendship survived it. Why should Clois be able to destroy it?

Friend vs family. Much much different.

[aqgalaxy]

Unless Lois develops romantic feelings for Clark while he is with Lana and gets passed up because Clark wants to be with Lana, I don't see how Lois will be treated as second to Lana.
Hey isn't that exactly what happened in Crimson?

[myankskent]

Hey isn't that exactly what happened in Crimson?

No, because Lois was on a love potion drug and had no memory of anything that happened. Clark was also on redK.

[aqgalaxy]

No, because Lois was on a love potion drug and had no memory of anything that happened. Clark was also on redK.

Oh ok, so when they were both drugged up and both in the mood, He still didn't want her ok that means they'll fall for eachother when sober...:rolleyes:

[theotherJane]

:rolleyes:

Do you always have to roll your eyes at other people's opinions that aren't in line with yours?
Just asking.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Clark was also on redK.

But Clark still left Lois for Lana. Lois who was willing to give it all to Clark.

[Yasise]

How is it disrespectful to Lois? She's never been in love with Clark and had her heart broken because he was in love with Lana.

I think that it's been clear that Chloe has always loved Clark, whether she said it or not. Also, friends do love each other as well so how do I know that Chloe isn't referring to Clark as a friend in this scene, especially since all signs point toward her wanting Jimmy when looking at this season. I'm still stuck on the idea of how this changes things. Clark is the one who hasn't expressed romantic feelings for Chloe and who instead, wants Lana.

I totally agree!!!


Well I dunno. He trapped Clark in the fortress, that doesn't help people and in fact if it weren't for Bizarro, Chloe and Jimmy would have been killed. Also if Jor-El had the power to freeze Clark, why didn't he do the same thing to Bizarro when he was at the fortress? Also why didn't Jor-El save his son when Brainiac used the green K on Clark in the fortress? Why didn't Jor-El assist in blocking access of the blue crystal to the FoS's system. If this show proves anything, Jor-El doesn't go out of his way to help his son...

O.k. Jor-El didn't seem to be the Superfather till now, but I still believe, that he surely wants to have his son being saved.
Sure, he could have reacted different in the cases you've mentioned above.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Clark is the one who hasn't expressed romantic feelings for Chloe

Obviously Vessel and Zod disprove that. And Crimson at best.

[aqgalaxy]

Do you always have to roll your eyes at other people's opinions that aren't in line with yours?
Just asking.

I think she rolled her eyes cause she heard the argument over and over again.

Honestly let us Chlarkers enjoy the moment, no need to start a Chlark vs Clois debate.

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Obviously Vessel and Zod disprove that. And Crimson at best.

What about Obscura when Clark tells Lana, he could be more then friends with Chloe?

[GuardianAngel]

^You do realise people can change, don't you? You witness events in your life which can lead it to different directions and (should) help you be more mature. The same will happen to Clark and Lois, that's why the Clark-Lois relationship will happen later in their lives.

[aqgalaxy]

You do realise people can change, don't you? You witness events in your life which can lead it to different directions and (should) help you be more mature. The same will happen to Clark and Lois, that's why the Clark-Lois relationship will happen later in their lives.

From your argument, why can't Clark change and realize he loves Chloe?

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that's why the Clark-Lois relationship will happen later in their lives.

Problem is, we're supposed to see why that relationship is Iconic/Epic/Destined NOW, not later. And all they are showing is why Clark-Chloe relationship will happen later.

[Yasise]

For years Chloe heard about Clark's feelings for Lana blah blah, to where she accepts it. To think Her cousin was able to take Clark's heart away from Lana, would be a slap in the face to Chloe, she'll wonder "why couldn't he ever love me" she'll put on a brave face, a fake smile, and then leave their life.

Oh no, this question "why couldn't he ever love me" is so not getting someone anywhere.

No one can answer that question, because either you fall in love with a person or not, and more often you don't fall in love with a person, just because he/she fell in love for you - that's life, it surely happenes all the time. It happened to me, too.

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Honestly let us Chlarkers enjoy the moment, no need to start a Chlark vs Clois debate.


dito


^You do realise people can change, don't you? You witness events in your life which can lead it to different directions and (should) help you be more mature. The same will happen to Clark and Lois, that's why the Clark-Lois relationship will happen later in their lives.

dito again

[Ilovebeinglost]

Let's leave Lois out of this for now eh. ;)

Saviour the moment, Chloe busted out what has been in her heart since day one....It was emotional, it was great acting on AM's part.

I'm still holding on to the belief that Chloe will turn out to be Lois Lana or take her name. ;) Long shot I know but since Chloe will not be used for the comics it makes more sense than ever

[go_clo]

Problem is, we're supposed to see why that relationship is Iconic/Epic/Destined NOW, not later. And all they are showing is why Clark-Chloe relationship will happen later.
Exactly! Either Clois starts now (or more like 4 years ago :rolleyes:) or they scrap it completely or alter it in some way that is either total crap or proving them as liars!!

They disprove the Chlois theory in interviews but every episode they prove it to be true. Either that or they prove that they are gonna go against countless comics, tv shows, movies and just basically all of Superman history and say that Chloe Sullivan will be the love of his life (which by the way, I wouldn't complain)! So either way, with every passing episode, moment and action made by either Chloe or Clark (or both), they prove themselves to be liars cause Chloe and Clark are so clearly made for eachother!! :o

[aqgalaxy]

Oh no, this question "why couldn't he ever love me" is so not getting someone anywhere.

No one can answer that question, because either you fall in love with a person or not, and more often you don't fall in love with a person, just because he/she fell in love for you - that's life, it surely happenes all the time. It happened to me, too.
Well this isn't real life, it's Fiction.

[Kalista]

Do you always have to roll your eyes at other people's opinions that aren't in line with yours?
Just asking.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was I addressing you? Did I roll my eyes at any of your thoughts? Do you always have to "call people out" when they disagree with an opinion that is in line with yours? Just asking. And I dont' ALWAYS roll my eyes at people....whose opinions aren't in line with mine (as you put it).

It gets really tiring to see people discredit various aspects of Chlark with the same tired arguments. I am entitled to express my opinion but I don't think you are entitled to try and call anyone out.:\

Anyway....YAY Chlark!:D

[RedKRules]

Clois will not happen, not on SMALLVILLE ...... at least I hope they don´t ..... Lois has been around for fours years, and I see nothing on their CANNON relationship happening any soon ......

[Twitch]

You see this is why I don't get into the shipping, it sounds really frustrating!

Chloe's line was really nice, I liked the FOS scene, that's all I have to say really.:rotfl:

[AndiGirl]

Thanks for posting the link....ugh, I cant remember you name...Ilovechlark...or something? Well...you know who you are! yea, I got pooped last night and went to bed...and now, after a good nights sleep I've decided to hold off on watching the clip. sorry!!! I know you worked really hard. :)

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As for all the fighting...come on guys, be nice! Who cares if people agree with us or not...we know whats going to happen. Thats all that matters!

[GuardianAngel]

From your argument, why can't Clark change and realize he loves Chloe?

Because he loves her as a friend and nothing more. He may be protective on her, but won't go any further. Some friendships are very strong, but they still remain friendships and do not evolve into anything else. That's what is special about Clark and Chloe (at least on Clark's behalf).

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Problem is, we're supposed to see why that relationship is Iconic/Epic/Destined NOW, not later. And all they are showing is why Clark-Chloe relationship will happen later.

That's what you want to see.

[Lostfan588]

True. We'll all have our subjective interpretations. My subjective interpretation says that if a guy kisses me back strongly, at the end of the world, and before that starts getting all flustery going in for a kiss in an elevator, and be like "we had a moment", tries to kiss me at the school dance, is curious of what kinds of "things" I can do for him, under and admits he's considered a relationship with me...chances are he wasn't and hasn't been feeling "just friendship" or he wouldn't have gotten so into our kiss. And if he denies it to my current boyfriend who I blew him off for (because was nervous about what he was thinking), then he's in DENIAL BABY!!!

BRING ON THE CHLARK!

[myankskent]

Obviously Vessel and Zod disprove that. And Crimson at best.

I find it hard to believe how those episodes disprove that when Clark just hopped into a relationship with Lana, not Chloe.

[Lostfan588]

I find it hard to believe how those episodes disprove that when Clark just hopped into a relationship with Lana, not Chloe.

Well, Chloe and Jimmy were dating during season 6, after Chloe blows off their "Vessel" "we had a moment", so I think, considering the ruining friendship insecurities Chlark already had going, it was naturally easier for Clark to turn his focus Lana than Chloe. However, the entire first half of season 6 had the wistful (okay "subjective") looks of Zod and Wither (I really cannot understand how else the Wither scene can be interpreted other than Clark feeling betrayed, hurt, and confused). The kiss interruption of Subterranean. The hurt look of Clark in the Crimson DP scene, and Clark annoyed that he and Chloe wouldn't get to spend Valentine's Day alone (minus the Jimmy, and dancing couples).

So I think PLENTY has been shown from Clark's side to show that feelings more than friendship have been there, and could still be there- just that he's been suppressing them for some reason. Whether that reason be because he thinks Chloe is over him and doesn't want to tear apart Chimmy if thats what Chloe wants (no diff than Chloe helping Clana in season 5), or the friendship boundary that both are nervous about, or that he's simply still blinded by Lana, and has yet to open his eyes to the awesomeness of how much he and Chloe's relationship has grown over the past years that she would travel to the ends of the world to save him...Whoa...Hey didn't she do that in this episode? Creepy.

Anyway the argument that Clark has secretly been harboring feelings for Chloe, or that his 'friendship' feelings for Chloe will change in the future, is really no diff than the Cloiser argument that Clark is already hiding feelings for Lois, or that his feelings will change. Chlark having had that complicated history as far as the woven web of soap opera on this show goes is bonus points to them imho. I just happen to think there's alot more cannon on the show to back up that Clark is going tp discover Chloe as the girl of his dreams. Subjective scenes? Maybe some of them are. But there's been LOADS and LOADS of these "subjective" scenes. And that is all I have to say my fellow Lostie friend, lol :)!!!!!

[go_clo]

Well, Chloe and Jimmy were dating during season 6, after Chloe blows off their "Vessel" "we had a moment", so I think, considering the ruining friendship insecurities Chlark already had going, it was naturally easier for Clark to turn his focus Lana than Chloe. However, the entire first half of season 6 had the wistful (okay "subjective") looks of Zod and Wither. The kiss interruption of Subterranean. The hurt look of Clark in the Crimson DP scene, and Clark annoyed that he and Chloe wouldn't get to spend Valentine's Day alone (minus the Jimmy, and dancing couples).

So I think PLENTY has been shown from Clark's side to show that feelings more than friendship have been there, and could still be there- just that he's been suppressing them for some reason. Whether that reason be because he thinks Chloe is over him and doesn't want to tear apart Chimmy if thats what Chloe wants (no diff than Chloe helping Clana in season 5), or the friendship boundary that both are nervous about, or that he's simply still blinded by Lana, and has yet to open his eyes to the awesomeness of how much he and Chloe's relationship has grown over the past years that she would travel to the ends of the world to save him...Whoa...Hey didn't she do that in this episode? Creepy.

Anyway the argument that Clark has secretly been harboring feelings for Chloe, or that his 'friendship' feelings for Chloe will change in the future, is really no diff than the Cloiser argument that Clark is already hiding feelings for Lois, or that his feelings will change. I just happen to think there's alot more cannon on the show to back up that Clark is going tp discover Chloe as the girl of his dreams. And that is all I have to say my fellow Lostie friend, lol :)!!!!!
Completely and totally agree! :D

[Lostfan588]

There isn't a youtube link is there? Every time I try and watch the clip my internet shuts down....weirdness. :lol:

Either way, I think, regardless of what people's views are on the possibility of Chlark being setup, that it is an awesome scene to see Chloe stand up to Jor El to save Clark. It's very complementary of the ISIS Wrath conversation. Chloe was the one who went to the ends of the earth to save Clark, and Lana wasn't there. But God forbid Lana be the one to kill Lionel..:lol:

I have to say it is just a little annoying to hear the arguments like "Chloe is over Clark. She has moved on and nothing has shown otherwise. Chimmy forever! " one episode. And then when episodes like this come along, "Everyone knows that Chloe loves Clark. But Clark will never feel the same way." It wouldn't be so strange if it wasn't coming from pretty much the same people...:lol:

[red_sun1938]

Well, Chloe and Jimmy were dating during season 6, after Chloe blows off their "Vessel" "we had a moment", so I think, considering the ruining friendship insecurities Chlark already had going, it was naturally easier for Clark to turn his focus Lana than Chloe. However, the entire first half of season 6 had the wistful (okay "subjective") looks of Zod and Wither (I really cannot understand how else the Wither scene can be interpreted other than Clark feeling betrayed, hurt, and confused). The kiss interruption of Subterranean. The hurt look of Clark in the Crimson DP scene, and Clark annoyed that he and Chloe wouldn't get to spend Valentine's Day alone (minus the Jimmy, and dancing couples).

So I think PLENTY has been shown from Clark's side to show that feelings more than friendship have been there, and could still be there- just that he's been suppressing them for some reason. Whether that reason be because he thinks Chloe is over him and doesn't want to tear apart Chimmy if thats what Chloe wants (no diff than Chloe helping Clana in season 5), or the friendship boundary that both are nervous about, or that he's simply still blinded by Lana, and has yet to open his eyes to the awesomeness of how much he and Chloe's relationship has grown over the past years that she would travel to the ends of the world to save him...Whoa...Hey didn't she do that in this episode? Creepy.

Anyway the argument that Clark has secretly been harboring feelings for Chloe, or that his 'friendship' feelings for Chloe will change in the future, is really no diff than the Cloiser argument that Clark is already hiding feelings for Lois, or that his feelings will change. Chlark having had that complicated history as far as the woven web of soap opera on this show goes is bonus points to them imho. I just happen to think there's alot more cannon on the show to back up that Clark is going tp discover Chloe as the girl of his dreams. Subjective scenes? Maybe some of them are. But there's been LOADS and LOADS of these "subjective" scenes. And that is all I have to say my fellow Lostie friend, lol :)!!!!!

I agree as well but I can see a scenario where Clark realizes his feeling just as Chloe gives her own life to save his. I can see al/miles doing that to twist the knife in the back of the Chlark supporters. :mad:

[Lostfan588]

I agree as well but I can see a scenario where Clark realizes his feeling just as Chloe gives her own life to save his. I can see al/miles doing that to twist the knife in the back of the Chlark supporters. :mad:

:lol:True...that would be pretty evil of them wouldn't it? I don't think they will though. They've spent too much time developing Chlark's friendship and closeness onscreen, and killed Chloe so much already, I can't even begin to describe how anticlimactic that would be. So I'm not worried. :)

[red_sun1938]

:lol:True...that would be pretty evil of them wouldn't it? I don't think they will though. They've spent too much time developing Chlark's friendship and closeness onscreen, and killed Chloe so much already, I can't even begin to describe how anticlimactic that would be. So I'm not worried. :)

I hope you are right. It would be a major letdown if that happened. Can't wait for tonight. Smallville AND Lost. :D

[aqgalaxy]

I agree as well but I can see a scenario where Clark realizes his feeling just as Chloe gives her own life to save his. I can see al/miles doing that to twist the knife in the back of the Chlark supporters. :mad:

Not really. I doubt Jor-El will let ANYTHING happen to Chloe now after this event. Why?

What was Lara's greatest fear? What did she say when she put Clark in that space ship? "What if nobody loves him?" Jor-El goes, "His destiny is set Lara"

Well we just got Chloe telling Jor-El that she loves hi son. Guess Jor-El was right in what he said to Lara.

[Lostfan588]

Smallville and Lost. :D

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

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Not really. I doubt Jor-El will let ANYTHING happen to Chloe now after this event. Why?

What was Lara's greatest fear? What did she say when she put Clark in that space ship? "What if nobody loves him?" Jor-El goes, "His destiny is set Lara"



Haha...If Jor El makes any exchange for saving Clark it should be to trade Clana for Chlark! Mwahaha!!!

[RedKRules]

:lol: that´s true :D

[christina]

I personally don't see what is so brand new about What Chloe said. She loves clark? umm shocking? Clark doesn't love her as more than a friend. All this does is just makes me pity chloe because even after it's said and done she's still not going to get Clark. Sad indeed that she can't move on.

[aqgalaxy]

Sad indeed that she can't move on.Yeah, same thing can be said about Lois Lane in Superman Returns. She's engaged and she's still in love with Superman...

[Lostfan588]

I personally don't see what is so brand new about What Chloe said. She loves clark? umm shocking? Clark doesn't love her as more than a friend. .

I think it is just a little shocking considering this is the first time (she may have said it while drugged up in Devoted), that Chloe has said she loves Clark. It's also a bit ironic that neither Clana nor Chimmy has used the word "love" with each other this season, yet they have Chloe who is not even dating Clark use the big "L" word.

I disagree about Clark not having/have had feelings for Chloe as more than a friend. It has been mentioned more than once on the show already, that Clark has in fact had feelings for her. In fact he has acted on those feelings on more than one occassion. Not including the numerous examples prior to season 5, he acted on them in Vessel when he responded to Chloe's kiss, and quite enthusiastically in Vessel, I might add, and in "Zod" when he was the one to initiate the "We had a moment" convo, he also acted on it- for the audience to see at least in Zod, Wither, and Crimson with the "subjective" facial expressions of hurtness. Regardless of how you interpret Clark's side of the equation, the shows history has shown that he has felt more than friendship. Whether or not the feelings will become strong enough (or Clark realize they are strong enough that it's worth it for Chlark to "risk" their friendship), is another question.

I think the main problem in regards to Chlark right now, is that neither knows how the other feels, because lines like this from Chloe, Clark overproteciveness like that with Oliver and Jimmy, don't happen in scenes where Chlark are together.

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All this does is just makes me pity chloe because even after it's said and done she's still not going to get Clark. Sad indeed that she can't move on.

Really? I didn't know that since the shows not done yet. I will have to have a stern talk with my psychic.... :p

But in all seriousness, where some people see these scenes as "pity Chloe" ones, I see them as the writers wanting the audience to root for Chloe.

[Yasise]

You see this is why I don't get into the shipping, it sounds really frustrating!

Chloe's line was really nice, I liked the FOS scene, that's all I have to say really.:rotfl:

Amen.

[miks]

Stop ruining our moment with your anti comments! Sheesh.

No but seriously I don't mind the debate, different strokes for different folks.

[go_clo]

Stop ruining our moment with your anti comments! Sheesh.
Agreed! :mad:

Like it's not enough that the writers are messing with us and killing our Chlark faith every other episode, now we get the SV fandom killin' it on us too?! :eek:

It's a wonder the Chlarkers haven't completely lost it by now!

[Ilovebeinglost]

But in all seriousness, where some people see these scenes as "pity Chloe" ones, I see them as the writers wanting the audience to root for Chloe.


Many in the audience have been rooting for Chloe for years and it has nothing to do with loving Clark. She's a brilliant girl no doubt.

[RedKRules]

I don´t pity for Chloe because she still loves Clark, because this love doesn´t make her miserable .... but made her GROW and become SUPERMAN´s BF with benefits :D :lol:

Clark does love Chloe .... she´s means a lot of more to him than she knows ...... ;)

[chlo-el]

Yeah, same thing can be said about Lois Lane in Superman Returns. She's engaged and she's still in love with Superman...


The situations are simular aren't they? I forget what her fiance' name was but that scene in the kitchen where she swore there was nothing between her and superman seemed simular to the kitchen scene with Jimmy.


I really liked Lois fiance and in some ways he reminded me of Jimmy in s6. In the way they were both understanding.

Anyways yeah alot of people say stuff like how pathetic it is but a lot of those people love clois because of the comic and movies canon and in a lot of the canon ILL is in love w/ superman for a long time before they actaully get together.

And by the way Chloe has moved on in a simular way to Lois in SR. She has done the motions and has tried a relationship that makes sense but deep down inher heart she knows that she will always love Clark.

[RedKRules]

And by the way Chloe has moved on in a simular way to Lois in SR. She has done the motions and has tried a relationship that makes sense but deep down inher heart she knows that she will always love Clark.

Seriously the only time she will stop loving him, it is if she dies .... :rolleyes: which isn´t happening :D

[chlarkfan333]

There will always be people trying to crush the Chlark optimism. Ignore them fellow Chlarkers and just enjoy the moment. I know I am. :)

[aqgalaxy]

There will always be people trying to crush the Chlark optimism. Ignore them fellow Chlarkers and just enjoy the moment. I know I am. :)
Yup Yup Yup

I think they're jealous that Chlarkers can have a moment without even a chlark scene ;)

[Ilovebeinglost]

There will always be people trying to crush the Chlark optimism. Ignore them fellow Chlarkers and just enjoy the moment. I know I am. :)


I've said that throughtout this whole thread. Enjoy the moment;)

[RedKRules]

I know I am enjoying it very much!! Who wants some Chlarkohol??? :lol:

[go_clo]

There will always be people trying to crush the Chlark optimism. Ignore them fellow Chlarkers and just enjoy the moment. I know I am. :)
Definately not gonna get this Chlarker down! One good thing about the writers treating Chlarkers like crap for all these years: You eventually get use to all the teasing and negative comments, become immune/indifferent to it and eventually the comments from *coughjealouscough* SV fans don't bother you anymore! ;)

-sigh- Always gotta look for that silver lining! :D


Yup Yup Yup

I think they're jealous that Chlarkers can have a moment without even a chlark scene ;)
lol oh heck yes! I'm so agreeing with that! :lol:
Chlarkers have material even without a Chlark scene! Seriously, how many ships can you saying that about?! I'd be jealous to if I could say that about any other ship on the show! :p

[chlo-el]

Yup Yup Yup

I think they're jealous that Chlarkers can have a moment without even a chlark scene ;)

Yay isn't Chlark amazing?

[CloisLaneKent]

Stop ruining our moment with your anti comments! Sheesh.

No but seriously I don't mind the debate, different strokes for different folks.

Oh please... you guys are the first ones to jump on Cloisers when something Clois-y happens... why tell people to stop what you guys do all the time?

[chlo-el]

I don´t pity for Chloe because she still loves Clark, because this love doesn´t make her miserable .... but made her GROW and become SUPERMAN´s BF with benefits :D :lol:

Clark does love Chloe .... she´s means a lot of more to him than she knows ...... ;)

Yeah seriously that's what really made me a chlarker was when she stoped pining and started to protect Clarks secret even when he didn't know she knew.

[chlarkfan333]

Oh please... you guys are the first ones to jump on Cloisers when something Clois-y happens... why tell people to stop what you guys do all the time?

All of us certainly aren't. I cheer for Cloisers and Clanaers when they have their moments. We're all watching this show for enjoyment.

[CloisLaneKent]

^^ Sorry, I know all Chlarkers aren't like that, and I know you're not one of them, I think I have you on my FL on LJ..

I just mean most of them are (not all). Especially the ones who see an anvil every time Chloe breathes.

[lauraforever]

I loved the scene! LOL, the quote is mentioned in my fic called.... oh, right, it's on adultfanfiction.net. Couldn't post it here because of a certain ship... oh well, look up JohnSlayer sometime.

[chlarkfan333]

^^ Sorry, I know all Chlarkers aren't like that, and I know you're not one of them, I think I have you on FL on LJ.. I just mean most of them are, not all. Especially the ones who see an anvil every time Chloe breathes.

There will always be extreme fans no matter where one looks. :) One just has to er, look past them. :D

[Kalista]

I just mean most of them are, not all. Especially the ones who see an anvil every time Chloe breathes.

Most Chlarkers??? I know this will not seem objective coming from me but I disagree. Usually the Cloisers enter threads such as these to stir things up. If you compare the number of negative Chlark remarks being made by Cloisers in the Chloe/Chlark threads to the number of negative Clois remarks made in the Clois threads by Chlarkers/Chloisers, you can't dispute it.


But back on topic, negative remarks will not affect my joy over Chlark (the OTP)!:D

[CloisLaneKent]

Ok.. so everyone's petty.. ;) LOL Guess it comes with the Smallvillian territory

[Lostfan588]

I don´t pity for Chloe because she still loves Clark, because this love doesn´t make her miserable .... but made her GROW and become SUPERMAN´s BF with benefits :D :lol:

Clark does love Chloe .... she´s means a lot of more to him than she knows ...... ;)


Like...uh...totally! :lol:

True, CloisLaneKent, I am an admitted "Smallvillian" fanatic! Hehehe.... But as far as I remember I've only lingered in the Clois threads on rare occassion, when I have something nice to say about them, so I don't agree with your assessment about "most" Chlark lovers at all. :p

Nothing wrong with enjoying all the sweet Chlark moments imo!!!!! :p

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I know I am enjoying it very much!! Who wants some Chlarkohol??? :lol:

:lol:

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You don't pull the love card when it's platonic. Not in a storyline.


Yeah, and if it were "love" in a platonic way, the writer's would have had no problem with Lana being right there, because it's just what friends do right? "Love" is a pretty big word to use coming from Chloe, and a word neither Clark has said to Lana nor Chloe to Jimmy, yet this season. That's why its so powerful. Sure, we all no Chlark are close neither one has used the L word for the other yet. Next, Clark's turn. :lol: I do think it's possible Kara might bring it up later on in the season...

[miks]

Oh please... you guys are the first ones to jump on Cloisers when something Clois-y happens... why tell people to stop what you guys do all the time?

thanks for making that generalization. Not all Chlarkers are like that, I know I'm not...I've said it time and time again..so yeah don't group us all together because thats obviously not true

and I was obviously joking...

[CloisLaneKent]

^^ I know, I already apologized a page back for assuming it was all... :D so we can chill now, k?

[aqgalaxy]

I just mean most of them are (not all). Especially the ones who see an anvil every time Chloe breathes.

That's really rough saying it's most. IMHO it's few, and I have on more then one occasion say "Let the Cloisers have their moment." Even in a recent thread...

[Clarkgirl8]

Ok guys I hope this works.. I love your son

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7037907044989415972&hl=en-CA

tell me if it works

Awww what a nice scene...Thank you! *sigh*

whoa flashback! "Chloe:...Isis is the godess of love and life and healing. And she even marched to the end of the earth to help jumpstart the man that she loved. I want Clark to have that kind of loyalty in his life...."

my chlark heart is happy now... so... Al'Miles i hate you!! :lol: Chimmy last week and now we have this?? what are you trying to do to me!!! give me a heart attack?.. ok im calming down now sorry :lol:

LONG LIVE THE CHLARK

[Alexander III]

awesome, I saw the video clip too, I LUUUUUUUUUUUUV UR SOOOON!! Awesome awesome!!

[Minela]

Hmmm...how many times have I told a good friend I loved them? Lots.

[Jaded Wolf]

I thought it fitting it would be Chloe saying that and not Lana. Between the both of them, Chloe has had the truest, purest love for Clark. Thank you writers for making sure it was Chloe who delivered that line.

[Minela]

Platonic or Romantic? What do you think?

[Lostfan588]

LOVED IT!!!!!!!! It was a great line but the music that followed it was even better.

[Jaded Wolf]

Not sure. I think it was definetely said out of friendship but also no doubt there are those old feelings there.

[thehenry89]

defintly platonic. chloe/clark friendship is awsome!!!!

[MidgardDragon]

Platonic.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

yeah it was cool - she was determined, unafraid and confident in what she was doing when she went to the fortress to ask Jor-El for help. Now THATS a friend for life!

[Ginx]

I think it was a friend pleading for a friend ..... she might still have feelings for him somewhere but I think at that particular reference that she was talking about her best friend.

[Lostfan588]

BOTH. I think if it was just meant to be platonic, the writers wouldn't have gotten rid of Lana for the scene. That line is a line that should go to Clark's GF really. I think Chloe was the perfect one to say it though...it's obvious she loves Clark more than any other girl on the show. I mean she'd die for him and "climb mount everest" for him! LOL

The Supermanish music that played with the scene made it seem like it was suppose to be an important moment.

[SeaNymph]

I think she still has some feelings for him. However, I think that statement was mainly platonic. I say I love my best friend, too.

[Minela]

I thought platonic, too. Esspecially after the whole Chimmy thing last week.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

"I love your son."

join the queue.

[Twitch]

First time I saw the episode I thought it was more in a romantic way, but after seeing it again and thinking about it... I'd say platonic.

[Vergon6]

I thought it was mainly platonic, but probably drawing on her old feelings for Clark in order to give an impassioned plea for Clark's life. On a side note, they conveniently did not have Jor-El saying anything, so no deal between Chloe and Jor-El.

[clana4everfan2]

Deep down I think Chloe will always love Clark but she's accepted that they are good friends since he loves Lana.

[alienkinfolk]

I think she still has some feelings for him. However, I think that statement was mainly platonic. I say I love my best friend, too.

I agree but love is love, Chloe will never be over the son of Krypton:)

[RobynAdele0406]

I'm not really sure. The Chlarker in me definitely thinks it's romantic, that she still has those feelings for him. But another part of me thinks it was perhaps just in friendship.

Either way you slice it, platonic or romantic, there is love there. Pure, constant "I would die for you" love that sets them apart from the other relationships on the show.

[Clarkgirl8]

She still has feelings... but not sure she wanted Jor-El to know :lol: so yeah...

[theotherJane]

After watching that scene a second time, I have to say those words were never meant to be romantic but platonic, although Chloe will always have feelings for Clark.

[aqgalaxy]

I watched this scene about 5 times, it shows more then Friendship love, so more then Platonic. Sort of sad that people are doing their hardest to try and demean it.

[Lostfan588]

TheOtherJane, this doesn't have to do with the topic, but your Lexy avi is AWESOME BTW!!!! :)

[KnightWayne]

Platonic, but you never know with KK out of the scene for awhile. Then again, they could take this time to have Clark develop some romantic feelings for Lois in Lana's absence.

[double L]

It was not that big of a deal.

[theotherJane]

TheOtherJane, this doesn't have to do with the topic, but your Lexy avi is AWESOME BTW!!!! :)

Thanks! I like it too, although I didn't make it.

[Effect]

While it's safe to say she loves him as a friend I'm not sure if she still loves him romantically though. I voted "not sure". Still I get the feeling, character wise, if Clark were to go to her and tell her he loved her and wanted to be with her and he meant it and should could tell he meant it before he'd finish talking she be kissing him.

[Vergon6]

I watched this scene about 5 times, it shows more then Friendship love, so more then Platonic. Sort of sad that people are doing their hardest to try and demean it.
Demean it? No one is demeaning it. It was a very touching moment. As people have said, she will always love Clark in one way or another.

[aqgalaxy]

I'm not really sure. The Chlarker in me definitely thinks it's romantic, that she still has those feelings for him. But another part of me thinks it was perhaps just in friendship.

Either way you slice it, platonic or romantic, there is love there. Pure, constant "I would die for you" love that sets them apart from the other relationships on the show.\
To your second part, that means it isn't Platonic...

You're first part, the thing is... Why did they add "I love your son" They didn't need that line, yet they put it in there. Chloe isn't known to throw the L word around, so why even have her say this to Jor-El?

[Lostfan588]

if Clark were to go to her and tell her he loved her and wanted to be with her and he meant it and should could tell he meant it before he'd finish talking she be kissing him.


:lol: Yeah...maybe....

[AndiGirl]

BOTH. I think if it was just meant to be platonic, the writers wouldn't have gotten rid of Lana for the scene. That line is a line that should go to Clark's GF really. I think Chloe was the perfect one to say it though...it's obvious she loves Clark more than any other girl on the show. I mean she'd die for him and "climb mount everest" for him! LOL

The Supermanish music that played with the scene made it seem like it was suppose to be an important moment.

Exactly! After seeing the scene...it did seem pretty platonic, for the time being. I dont think the writers would have conveniently "forgot" Lana...there was a reason Chloe said those words...and a reason Jorel listened to her. Definitely seems to be forshadowing something.

[Lostfan588]

The writer's could have just had Chloe say "Your son means alot to all of us!" or "he means a lot to me. He's my best friend"...but "I love your son" seems really stong. I agree that "love" can be used for friends, but Chloe has (when not under the influence) never used that word before in regard to Clark and never even has said she loves Jimmy...so I think that's what makes it really questionable.

[RobynAdele0406]

LoL I don't get why it wouldn't be discussed or something to be excited about. If anyone on this show says the words "I love you", it's usually discussed. And the fact that Chloe said it to Jor-El, in such a bold way, was awesome. And something to get excited about. So big YAYS from me.

Chloe so totally scored bonus points with Clark's daddy. Hee!

[curiosity]

I don't know. She loves him as a friend, but when a girl loves a guy as a friend that much, it can always, always mean more or turn into more. There's always that chance. But I think she's keeping it as friend love, because she knows that's what Clark wants and she's pursued other guys because of it, like Jimmy.

Let's not forget Lana's line to her when Lana was doing Bizarro, and Chloe was the only one who knew it wasn't him. She told Chloe maybe it was time for her to "let go". Let go of what? What was she telling Chloe to let go of?

And...everyone seems to be forgetting Chloe's other line when they first got in the car and she was rolling up her window, and she said something like she'd "climb Mt. Everest if it meant saving Clark.", but I'm not sure of her exact words I'd have to see it again.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Romantic. Chloe doesn't just throw out those words all willynilly. When she says them she means them, and I think it was more than just platonic.

[savingpeoplething]

Chloe doesn't say the "L" word all that often. She said it to Clark once in S4, to her mother, and to her cousin in S6. For her to say that she "loves" Clark is pretty huge.

Chloe saying she loved Clark was also bigtime payoff for the Isis foreshadowing from "Wrath". Isis goes to the "ends of the Earth" (aka the FoS) to "jumpstart the man she loves".

It's kind of a big deal for Chloe to confess her feelings about Clark in the replication of his homeworld in front of his cousin, and to his biological father.

If it was supposed to be platonic, she would have said, "I'm BFF with your son!". But, that's not what she said. She said "I love your son". Big difference there.

The Fortress scene from "Traveler" is one of THE most romantic things I've ever seen and the funny thing is that one half of the couple wasn't even present. That's how powerful it is.

[Lostfan588]

Chloe doesn't say the "L" word all that often. She said it to Clark once in S4, to her mother, and to her cousin in S6. For her to say that she "loves" Clark is pretty huge.

Chloe saying she loved Clark was also bigtime payoff for the Isis foreshadowing from "Wrath". Isis goes to the "ends of the Earth" (aka the FoS) to "jumpstart the man she loves".

It's kind of a big deal for Chloe to confess her feelings about Clark in the replication of his homeworld in front of his cousin, and to his biological father.

If it was supposed to be platonic, she would have said, "I'm BFF with your son!". But, that's not what she said. She said "I love your son". Big difference there.

Lana also said that she would KILL the Luthor/s if they harmed Clark in this episode.

[sabi908]

i see a huge foreshadowing of her death in this one. As much as i hate to say this, chloe will die so Clark can live....

I don't expect anything else from the AlMiles

[Clarkgirl8]

The writer's could have just had Chloe say "Your son means alot to all of us!" or "he means a lot to me. He's my best friend"...but "I love your son" seems really stong. I agree that "love" can be used for friends, but Chloe has (when not under the influence) never used that word before in regard to Clark and never even has said she loves Jimmy...so I think that's what makes it really questionable.

Or Chlana saying "You need to trust us. We love your son" or even Chloe alone saying "you need to trust me (us). We love your son".... but it was I LOVE YOUR SON... geeez

[aqgalaxy]

The Fortress scene from "Traveler" is one of THE most romantic things I've ever seen and the funny thing is that one half of the couple wasn't even present. That's how powerful it is.

This also goes way back to Lara's fear in memoria

"What if they don't love him?"

Well guess what, Chloe does.

[CloisLaneKent]

Chloe loves Clark, like I said, this isn't new. Ok, she told Jor-El that.. and? Yeah she could have said "hes my friend", but nah, they left that to Clark saying "she's my friend" in Arrival, no "I love her"s from him to his KryptonDaddy.

[chlarkfan333]

It was not that big of a deal.

To some of us it was. :) No harm in a few squees. :D

[OliviaB]

Totally romantic. She didn't say "I love my best friend", she said: I love your son. Full stop, no clarification, nothing further. She had nothing else but her last, true emotion to give to jor-el because Clark's life was at stake. There was no elaborating involved.

[Alexander III]

Platonic I say!!

[aqgalaxy]

i see a huge foreshadowing of her death in this one. As much as i hate to say this, chloe will die so Clark can live....

I don't expect anything else from the AlMiles

Honestly, I see this as Chloe is staying alive. She got Jor-El to listen to her, he'll make sure she lives.

[OliviaB]

This also goes way back to Lara's fear in memoria

"What if they don't love him?"

Well guess what, Chloe does.

I loved this comparison. I thought jor-el listening to Chloe right after she professed her love for him called back to this scene brilliantly. It was a hell of a reminder as to who matters in the series.

[aqgalaxy]

Chloe loves Clark, like I said, this isn't new. Ok, she told Jor-El that.. and? Yeah she could have said "hes my friend", but nah, they left that to Clark saying "she's my friend" in Arrival, no "I love her"s from him to his KryptonDaddy.

Well Chlark weren't all that close at the end of Season 4/ start of 5 compared to now.

[Clarkgirl8]

Chloe so totally scored bonus points with Clark's daddy. Hee! :rotfl: :rotfl: in-law

[Smallvillefan78412]

I put not sure. In some ways I think both. It sounded like she was pleading for her friend back, but I think deep down that she truly does love him in a romantic way.

[sabi908]

Honestly, I see this as Chloe is staying alive. She got Jor-El to listen to her, he'll make sure she lives.
i don't know....most stories that follow this plot where one person has unrequited feelings for the other usually ends up being the tragic figure.

I think Chloe did declare her love for Clark....but this is nothing new...we all have known that she has loved Clark since S1

the questions is if Clark loves her back the same way...and the answer to that is no.

[curiosity]

i don't know....most stories that follow this plot where one person has unrequited feelings for the other usually ends up being the tragic figure.

I think Chloe did declare her love for Clark....but this is nothing new...we all have known that she has loved Clark since S1

the questions is if Clark loves her back the same way...and the answer to that is no.

Yes, and this right after Lex mentioned she had feelings for Clark in the last episode.

[OliviaB]

i see a huge foreshadowing of her death in this one. As much as i hate to say this, chloe will die so Clark can live....

I don't expect anything else from the AlMiles


I thought it made her living a certainty. Besides Clark, she now has jor-el knowing that his son is loved and Lara's greatest fear won't come to pass. Jor-el is imo, going to make sure chloe lives. Which reminds me - isn't there something about Clark and ILL sharing a life-force in order to save her from kryptonite posioning? I wonder if Clark will ask Jor-el for help when she uses her power next and he's afraid for her? They seem to be playing with his fear of her power a lot, and now basically, jor-el is in Chloe's corner.

[BOUROUX]

It's romantic. In the last episode, Chloe has rediscovered the feeling of love in the scene with Jimmy. But she decided to give another chance to Clark. She asked his hand to her father.

[aqgalaxy]

Hmmm...how many times have I told a good friend I loved them? Lots.
But see, Chlark doesn't have that kind of friendship, they don't say "Love ya Clark, love you too Chloe" to eachother, meaning it isnt' that kind of Platonic relationship.

[curiosity]

Hmmm...how many times have I told a good friend I loved them? Lots.


Did you tell another friend that you'd "Climb Mt. Everest to save them"? Only serious love would do that.

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It was not that big of a deal.

Maybe you should look at the number of posts and hits this thread is getting.:)

[sabi908]

I thought it made her living a certainty. Besides Clark, she now has jor-el knowing that his son is loved and Lara's greatest fear won't come to pass. Jor-el is imo, going to make sure chloe lives. Which reminds me - isn't there something about Clark and ILL sharing a life-force in order to save her from kryptonite posioning? I wonder if Clark will ask Jor-el for help when she uses her power next and he's afraid for her? They seem to be playing with his fear of her power a lot, and now basically, jor-el is in Chloe's corner.

dude the way they have portrayed Jorel in SV is in a pretty non-conventional way...i think hes more like a God-like figure who tests Clark but ultimately knows that it will benefit him...

knowing Jorel i wouldnt be surprised if he does nothing about Chloe dying so Clark can learn some sort of lesson and heck maybe that will propel him to finally set off on his journey.

[AndiGirl]

The only reason I would even consider this being anything more then platonic is because of who's saying it. Chloe doesnt say she loves people very often...so when she does, she really means it. It may be platonic for now...but the writers are building something....and if there's anything we can all agree on, it should be that. They have a reason for everything. So if the nonbelievers can explain to me why out of all the people in clarks life...chloe was the one to say it, then I will give up. Until then my chlarkie hope continues!

[aqgalaxy]

See the reason why I voted Romantic is, they didn't need the FoS. They didn't need this scene. They could have had Chloe use her power on Kara to save Clark, I'm sure they could have done it and still have it make sense and it would reveal that she's an MF to Lana and Kara. But the writers chose Chloe to go to the Fortress, made her say that line.

The reason why it's more then Platonic is because, they didn't need to have this epic scene.

[Lostfan588]

She asked his hand to her father.

That is kind of the thing you would say to the parents of your fiance, isn't it?

"I love your son." :lol:

[Jeri1250]

I don't think Chloe loves Clark in a romantic. If so she's a masochist to continually watch the man she so loves be involved with Lana.

But there are permutations of love. And I feel that between romantic love and platonic love there is heartfelt love. As Clark has heartfelt love for Chloe, she has for him. Not as crippling as romantic, not as casual as platonic.

And maybe whatever Jor-El may be now, he/it could sense what Chloe was saying as more true as opposed to what Lana might have said, and so healed Lara for Chloe as much as for Clark.

[BOUROUX]

It's romantic. In the last episode, Chloe has rediscovered the feeling of love in the scene with Jimmy. But she decided to give another chance to Clark. She asked his hand to her father. She uses the word LOVE. Not the word LIKE. She speaks to the biological father of Clark. It's not the time to bluff, Clark's life is in the equation. Jor el accepts because Chloe said the thrue.

[theotherJane]

See the reason why I voted Romantic is, they didn't need the FoS. They didn't need this scene. They could have had Chloe use her power on Kara to save Clark, I'm sure they could have done it and still have it make sense and it would reveal that she's an MF to Lana and Kara. But the writers chose Chloe to go to the Fortress, made her say that line.

The reason why it's more then Platonic is because, they didn't need to have this epic scene.

Didn't you say the following not too long ago:


I watched this scene about 5 times, it shows more then Friendship love, so more then Platonic. Sort of sad that people are doing their hardest to try and demean it.

:confused:

[CloisLaneKent]

So if this was so epic, but nothing comes out of it at all... that it was just a scene where Chloe says something that was pretty much implied these past 7 seasons, then what?

[Lostfan588]

Cant help who you love. She's no masochist. They're bffs..she has every reason in the world to love him. Plus he's sexy! Who can blame her? lol

[sabi908]

So if this was so epic, but nothing comes out of it at all... that it was just a scene where Chloe says something that was pretty much implied these past 7 seasons, then what?
lol exactly...i don't know why people are jumping all over this...

it would have been something if Clark told Gabe "I love your daughter"

but this was pretty much well-known.

[Lostfan588]

So if this was so epic, but nothing comes out of it at all... QUOTE]


Yeah, well if it's been "implied" for 7 seasons, then I dare say the writers are going to go through with it....but probably wont know for sure til the last season.

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[QUOTE=sabi908;3660087]lol exactly...i don't know why people are jumping all over this...

it would have been something if Clark told Gabe "I love your daughter"

but this was pretty much well-known.

Hey...It could happen. :lol:

[Clarkgirl8]

Plus he's sexy! Who can blame her? lol OMG :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[curiosity]

I don't think Chloe loves Clark in a romantic. If so she's a masochist to continually watch the man she so loves be involved with Lana.

But there are permutations of love. And I feel that between romantic love and platonic love there is heartfelt love. As Clark has heartfelt love for Chloe, she has for him. Not as crippling as romantic, not as casual as platonic.

And maybe whatever Jor-El may be now, he/it could sense what Chloe was saying as more true as opposed to what Lana might have said, and so healed Lara for Chloe as much as for Clark.

I'm sure they have some type of super tech lie detector in the FOS also. They have everything else.

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Cant help who you love. She's no masochist. They're bffs..she has every reason in the world to love him. Plus he's sexy! Who can blame her? lol

Plus, she's not "watching" the man she loves date Lana. It's not like that. She's moved on and dated someone else also, but still has always loved Clark.

[aqgalaxy]

Didn't you say the following not too long ago:



:confused:

How are you confused when it's the same exact standpoint?

[superspider02]

I thought it was a great powerful and emotional scene with chloe, kara in the fos.

[theotherJane]

How are you confused when it's the same exact standpoint?

Are you reading what I'm reading, because those two posts contradict each other.

First you said it's platonic, then you backtracked and said you voted for romantic because it's more than platonic.

[sabi908]

Are you reading what I'm reading, because those two posts contradict each other.

First you said it's platonic, then you backtracked and said you voted for romantic because it's more than platonic.
lol im sorry but i see no contradiction...you should go back and read it again

[BadToad]

I'm not sure, and I don't think it even matters. Whether it was platonic or romantic, Chloe did a brave thing. She showed her devotion and loyalty to Clark, and she spoke to Jor-El from her heart.

Its no surpise that she loves Clark, but I do believe the declaration, to Jor-El, at the FOS has a lot of meaning. It was a powerful moment for her, and the show. And I think knocking it because its not your ship is....well, unfortunate :\

[meteor_phreak]

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To your second part, that means it isn't Platonic...

You're first part, the thing is... Why did they add "I love your son" They didn't need that line, yet they put it in there. Chloe isn't known to throw the L word around, so why even have her say this to Jor-El?

I agree. And it's also interesting that he wasn't even acknowledging her presence until she said that. He didn't respond to them arriving. Didn't respond to Kara with no memories. Didn't respond to hearing that Clark needed help. She said she loved him, and Jor El needed to trust her, THEN he responded.

Also, AlMiles are always ambiguous. It's what they live for. But it's really interesting that Lana wasn't there. Important for in-universe reasons, like Lana really doesn't know what was happening, like she didn't know how to use the key. Important for out-of-universe reasons too, because if she was there, there would have HAD to be a line removing the ambiguity, some version of lana asking chloe what she meant. I think Lana's absence means that AlMiles know that it was romantic love still.