TV Ratings for #7-14 "Traveler"

[Routh]

The television ratings for Traveler will be posted and discussed in here. :)

[bizzaroboy9]

let hope for 4 million *crosses fingers*

[TheLastKryptonian]

It seems like an important episode so I'm hoping for 4.5 million. Also Survivor is usually on Thursday but is on a Wednesday today so hopefully that'll help Smallville out. :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

Hopefully it will have high ratings, over 4 million.

[bizzaroboy9]

It seems like an important episode so I'm hoping for 4.5 million. Also Survivor is usually on Thursday but is on a Wednesday today so hopefully that'll help Smallville out. :)

it is? that help smallville a lot, also in the chicago tribune, it is on the list as best bets to watch this week so thats good. hope it will do great tomorrow night...;)

[Mar-El]

The trailers were pretty awesome, so let's hope that will round in a couple more thousand viewers :)

[TheLastKryptonian]

However the NCAA basketball games are happening so CBS may be broadcasting them which may steal a bunch of viewers or some CW stations may broadcast them because didn't some not see Hero last week because of that?

[dunkman]

However the NCAA basketball games are happening so CBS may be broadcasting them which may steal a bunch of viewers or some CW stations may broadcast them because didn't some not see Hero last week because of that?

Do any Smallville fans get into NCAA basketball? I'd hoped there were more guys like me who love superheroes but never got into sports. Am I alone in the world? I would pick Smallville over something I'd actually LIKE to watch (but if it was "Chuck" I'd have to tape it.)

[MidgardDragon]

God I hope the ratings are good. This is one of the best episodes of the series and for it to be crap ratings-wise would be a huge blow.

[savannah]

I hope it is somewhere around 4 to 5 million

[Best Episode - 321]

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............

* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.38 million

[MidgardDragon]

IF we could achieve something like a 4.01 I would be thrilled.

[ClarkyBoy14]

The CW has improved from the previous week by a few hundred thousand viewers, "Traveler" was promoted well (from what I saw), and it had a great trailer, so all of that will hopefully lead to some more viewers.

OTOH, every single major network is airing something new tonight at 8et. Like I said in the "Persona" thread, though, sometines SV actually does better with more competition.

I just hope we can see an improvement from last week.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Hopefully "Traveler" gets more than 3.81 million views.

[bizzaroboy9]

i have a bad feeling that it will be less than 3.81 million viewers... i hope i am wrong...

[Kel-El09]

They did a good job of promoting these recent episodes because for a while we all thought the season was ending. I believe there will be a bunch of viewers, hopefully 5 million. If you think about it though, there was nothing really revolutionary about this episode, it was just good and intense. On the two episodes that scored in the 5 mill--one was the season premiere and the other was chloe trying to remove her meteor power..and those were both big pivotal points in the season.

[Jack-El49]

i have a bad feeling that it will be less than 3.81 million viewers... i hope i am wrong...

I do too. This was an outstanding episode and tied in quite a few plotlines from previous seasons. It deserves a much higher viewership than it's getting this season.

[lauraforever]

I hope it's a lot of viewers, and with "Veritas" and "Apocalypse" they should totally try for a ratings boost.

[JAMHEXXX]

Fast nationals.

the CW’s depressed Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.41 million; A18-49: #5, 1.4/ 4).

[BadToad]

Bummer, thats unfortunate. It was such a great episode. But after lasts weeks ep, I'm not surprised it lost a bit of ground.

[SeaNymph]

I really wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA tournament HAD hurt Smallville. My own fiance DVRed it so he could watch the tournament. If my team's game hadn't come on AFTER Smallville, I probably would have done the same thing.

[JAMHEXXX]

Well, percentage wise Smallville is the second most DVR'd show on any network, only trailing Lost. You can normally add close to one million viewers to every broadcast of Smallville.

[MidgardDragon]

Man that sucks. Here's hoping this is one of those rare instances when the finals give it a significant bump.

[bizzaroboy9]

hopefully the final numbers will go up a little bit..

[smallvillelogan]

Do any Smallville fans get into NCAA basketball? I'd hoped there were more guys like me who love superheroes but never got into sports. Am I alone in the world? I would pick Smallville over something I'd actually LIKE to watch (but if it was "Chuck" I'd have to tape it.)

Basketball is my favorite thing in the world, so I was devotedly watching Smallville and switching over to CBS during the commercials. I think the NCAA Tournament would take away from the ratings. It always hurts every other network because March Madness is such a big deal.

[bizzaroboy9]

when do they release the final numbers, i hope it will go up above 3.5...

[boywithbluehanger]

I think the promotional effort has backfired because recently they've been trying to advertise to long time viewers of SV instead of reaching out to people who don't know what the heck is going on.

It doesn't help that those who never watched Smallville back from 2001-2004 (S1-S3) won't get many of the aspects of the S7 spoiler images in the trailers. They didn't know or care about Pete, they don't understand why many of us think Lionel may/may not still be the MB. And those are/were the most gripping aspects of the last trailers! Sure we loyal viewers were a little bit excited but that type of advertising won't entice new and off-and-on viewers.

Season 5 and 6 were good at more than a few things. One of those were advertising to people who are clueless about the show. The concepts of the shows often introduced new characters as victims of evil schemes and heroes rather than fotw's like Aqua, Vengeance, Cyborg, Arrow, Justice, Aqua, Fragile, Progency, and Subterranean.


Here's a generalized thought by many:
Traveler did nothing vital to further the storyline other than bring Kara's memory back.

[MidgardDragon]

Here's a generalized thought by many:
Traveler did nothing vital to further the storyline other than bring Kara's memory back.

A generalized thought that virtually no one has stated since the episode aired....is a generalization how, exactly??? I can't see anyone, even new viewers, not seeing more to it than that. We saw the introduction of a society we previously knew virtually nothing about, we saw Kara get her memory back, we saw Lionel's entire character arc develop in significant ways, and we saw Lex getting closer to Clark's secret by finding out about Veritas.

[bizzaroboy9]

final numbers? anybody?

[JAMHEXXX]

not out yet.

[Kel-El09]

when will the numbers be released?

[superpal1]

I DVR'ed Smallville and Reaper last night to watch basketball. I watched the episode this afternoon. The show was great last night. I really wouldn't be surprised if more people didnt do what I did.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Man that sucks. Here's hoping this is one of those rare instances when the finals give it a significant bump.

If not, SV just hit a series low (previous: "Prototype" at 3.43). :( Which is total BS, because "Traveler" was quite possibly the best of the season (neck and neck with "Bizarro").

NCAA definately had a negative impact, and the bad news is that "Veritas" will have to face it as well. But the good news is that we'll likely see a large bump w/DVR numbers added.

[JEWCY]

I think the promotional effort has backfired because recently they've been trying to advertise to long time viewers of SV instead of reaching out to people who don't know what the heck is going on.

It doesn't help that those who never watched Smallville back from 2001-2004 (S1-S3) won't get many of the aspects of the S7 spoiler images in the trailers. They didn't know or care about Pete, they don't understand why many of us think Lionel may/may not still be the MB. And those are/were the most gripping aspects of the last trailers! Sure we loyal viewers were a little bit excited but that type of advertising won't entice new and off-and-on viewers.

Season 5 and 6 were good at more than a few things. One of those were advertising to people who are clueless about the show. The concepts of the shows often introduced new characters as victims of evil schemes and heroes rather than fotw's like Aqua, Vengeance, Cyborg, Arrow, Justice, Aqua, Fragile, Progency, and Subterranean.


Here's a generalized thought by many:
Traveler did nothing vital to further the storyline other than bring Kara's memory back.

1. other than what you have stated, why do you believe this? because they are using recurring characters in the promos? they did this for season 5 with brainiac and before, they really did not go into that much depth for storylines like they are doing today

2. i think you are wrong about that statement. i think it did a lot of things as far as lionel's arc, the veritas group, the journal clark got from patricia swann, the motives of lex, and clark ultimately saying no luthor is his friend.

[monel49]

Don't forget---Thursday was Holy Thursday, an important night for Christians, many of whom were in church while Smallville was on. That's where I was and I DVR'd the episode, just like a lot of folks.

[boywithbluehanger]

A generalized thought that virtually no one has stated since the episode aired....is a generalization how, exactly??? I can't see anyone, even new viewers, not seeing more to it than that. We saw the introduction of a society we previously knew virtually nothing about, we saw Kara get her memory back, we saw Lionel's entire character arc develop in significant ways, and we saw Lex getting closer to Clark's secret by finding out about Veritas.

Based on what we've (viewers) already known, the responses to this episode that are the exact opposite of new discoveries, and the fact that many people either decided to watch something else or that it wasn't that big of a deal to watch SV at all. (The ratings offer me the idea of that interpretation)

Veritas existed almost 2 decades ago, it's over with, and 3 of it's 4 members are dead. Not really missing much there imo. Lionel is suspected to have had the members killed. Again, not surprising since we are aware of how Lionel used to be. The daughter of Virgil Swann informed Lex of Veritas. Lex had her killed. That "end" was never loose - no need for tying. We know that Lionel (for whatever reason) is still protecting Clark...all the "the MB returns" type of news and the posts that may read the same are still unconfirmed by the storyline.

All of Lionel's story in this episode is and already was known by viewers who (I believe) pay attention the show and the trailers. Thus I made my statement assuming the generalized thoughts "of many" (being set viewers that I mentioned in the sentence above).

As for Lex's story with Patricia Swann, it turned out that it ended before it really began.

I like how you mentioned that Lex gets closer to revealing the truth about Clark. Even if that happens (sort of again), most won't/don't expect it to stick since in 7 years of the show he always gets REALLY close and ends up being led astray from his original beliefs (or simply "forgets" *coughmemorywipecough* - S3). Finally, leaving the regaining of Kara's memory, the only necessary nugget to take back from this episode.

[skizzo]

I blame "Hero" for being such a sucky episode too, many casual viewers would've been put off to see "Traveler".

[Mar-El]

I blame "Hero" for being such a sucky episode too, many casual viewers would've been put off to see "Traveler".

I kind of feel the same way. I was surprised to find out a couple of my friends didn't watch this episode because they felt Lexara (with Kara moving in) and the advertising went too far last episode. They don't read spoilers so they didn't know she was getting her memory restored this episode.

What a bummer. They missed a phenomenal episode :(

[MidgardDragon]

I find the fact that anyone bought the Lexara ending to be highly hilarious, and I do believe I pointed out after it happened that it was definitely a fake-out. Ah well, I guess we can't hold people responsible for not thinking for themselves and judging books by their cover and all that...oh wait, yes we can and do every day. :)

[jimmyolsenblues]

Last place.
Thank god we are already re-newed for next year.

"the CW’s depressed Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.41 million; A18-49: #5, 1.4/ 4)."
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/132104011

3.41 million is too small for such a great episode.

[aqgalaxy]

Yeah, unless areas had games on at the time, it seems to me that the reason why it was low is because of Hero

[Mar-El]

I find the fact that anyone bought the Lexara ending to be highly hilarious, and I do believe I pointed out after it happened that it was definitely a fake-out.

It was an unnecessary storyline and cheapened the episode. I guess I'm just sorry that my friends who thought it wasn't a good plot didn't have you around to tell them what to think or how to interpret the entire Lexara situation :p


Ah well, I guess we can't hold people responsible for not thinking for themselves and judging books by their cover and all that...oh wait, yes we can and do every day. :)

Reasonably speaking, moving in with someone is a huge deal. Anyone watching the episode without any knowledge of spoilers could reasonably infer that Lex and Kara would be staying together for more than an episode.

Last time someone moved into the Luthor mansion, she got married to Lex.

[MidgardDragon]

Last time someone moved into the Luthor mansion, she got married to Lex.

Which made the idea that this storyline was going to pan out all the more ridiculous. Critical thinking based on past plotlines and the direction they've taken this season should have allowed for an easy judgment that it was a fakeout.

It sucks if it affected ratings, but I think it's great that it actually ticked off the whiners so much. I'd like to see more fake-outs of the sort, they deserve it.

[Twitch]

Last place.
Thank god we are already re-newed for next year.

"the CW’s depressed Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.41 million; A18-49: #5, 1.4/ 4)."
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/132104011

3.41 million is too small for such a great episode.
Last place? What's up with that? This episode was freakin' awesome, a lot of people missed out it seems.

Yeah, unless areas had games on at the time, it seems to me that the reason why it was low is because of Hero
Gah stupid Hero! I hate Stride even more now :lol:

[SparkleforSmallville]

I think Spring Break, also hurt the ratings. Well, they missed an Awesome episode!!

[Mar-El]

It sucks if it affected ratings, but I think it's great that it actually ticked off the whiners so much. I'd like to see more fake-outs of the sort, they deserve it.

You would want that at the expense of ratings? I'm glad the writers aren't specifically catering to you, then ;)

Besides, who are we to decide what other people deserve? That's a personal caprice. I think everyone who watches Smallville deserves a million dollars for their prudent decision :p

[smallvillelogan]

So March Madness, Holy Thursday, spring break. Lots of reasons why it had low ratings. I bet it goes up next week.

March Madness is going on next Thursday too though...

[bizzaroboy9]

final numbers yet?

[hemmy]

I ain't gonna lie, I was watching the Kansas State vs USC bball game so I didn't contribute :(

[6-Super-Man -5]

Really? 3.41 million? Thats horrible! The episode was great.

[MidgardDragon]

I ain't gonna lie, I was watching the Kansas State vs USC bball game so I didn't contribute :(

Unless you have a Nielsen Box you wouldn't have contributed anyway. These ratings are based on such a flawed system I really think studios should stop following them.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah, unless areas had games on at the time, it seems to me that the reason why it was low is because of Hero

I think the poor reception to "Hero" is a factor, but there are others that have been mentioned already as well (bball, spring break, etc.).

[aqgalaxy]

I think the poor reception to "Hero" is a factor, but there are others that have been mentioned already as well (bball, spring break, etc.).

Exactly. IMHO what they should've done, now that we know Veritas isn't the season finale, they should have aired Hero when they did, since it's seems just like a infomercial, and postponed Traveler and Veritas couple weeks so it would have been from Traveler straight on. After Spring Break, after the holiday and stuff.

[AlwaysRight]

Exactly. IMHO what they should've done, now that we know Veritas isn't the season finale, they should have aired Hero when they did, since it's seems just like a infomercial, and postponed Traveler and Veritas couple weeks so it would have been from Traveler straight on. After Spring Break, after the holiday and stuff.

they probably would have been better to have repeats on during bball(heaven knows they had tons of repeats during jan/feb that they could have had the new episodes on)

[Supes4Ever]

It is not a final rating, but I have a question as to which is the correct number. The original poster said Smallville had a 1.4/4 share for 3.41 million, but "Zap2It-Nielsen Ratings" has our fast national rating at 2.2/4 share for 3.70 million viewers.
The link is here:
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ratings032008,0,615044.story

Why the difference?

FYI- Here is the key section-

"NBC started the night in first with a 6.6/11 for "Deal or No Deal." CBS' basketball was second with a 5.5/9, as ABC's "Miss Guided" had a 4.3/7 for two new episodes. FOX was fourth with "Are You Starter Than a Fifth Grader," leaving The CW in fifth with the 2.2/4 for "Smallville."

[bizzaroboy9]

^ interesting... i hope thats the real numbers...

i thought by now the final number for traveler had been released?

[6-Super-Man -5]

I really am confused now...

[98chase]

Isn't Smallville's main demographic males ages 18-25, or something of that nature?

[bizzaroboy9]

so the final number is 3.41 or 3.70?

[SparkleforSmallville]

Those numbers are confusing, and I've forgotten how to add fractions:/

[CallMeClark]

Bummer. :(

[6-Super-Man -5]

Whats the ratings?

[bizzaroboy9]

why the final rating mumbers haven't be released?

[Poweranimals]

Those numbers are confusing, and I've forgotten how to add fractions:/

I haven't, but what fractions should be added?

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats what I'm confused about.

[Arwenstar]

Common denominator people! 8D

[bizzaroboy9]

awesome! way better than 3.41!! veritas might be in the 4 million range!

[Supes4Ever]

Ok, for some reason my post was deleted (or is not showing up, don't know which), but here it is in it's almost original form:

The Finals are in....better then expected:

(2.6/ 4)- Viewers: 3.95 million

"Also in the 8 p.m. hour was NBC’s Deal or No Deal (#1: 6.6/11), Fox’s Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (#3: 4.9/ 8), which was down by 30 percent from the year-ago telecast (7.0/11 on March 22, 2007), and the CW’s Smallville (2.6/ 4)."

The source is this website, and its section- "The Programming Insider- Mediaweek"

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003728786

[6-Super-Man -5]

Hopefully next week we get pass 4 million.

[bizzaroboy9]

yeah plzzz!!

[MidgardDragon]

Yay! I love it when the early reports are wrong. Sounds like wherever the fast nationals came from they just wanted an excuse to call it "depressed" lol. Next week could get over 4 million easily.

[Twitch]

I have a good feeling about next week. Smallville rocks!

[Mar-El]

Awesome news about the ratings!

Let's hope Veritas tops 4 million. Hopefully it will on account of James Marsters and all :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

James Marsters could probably get 1 million viewers all by himself. :lol:

[AlwaysRight]

Awesome news about the ratings!

Let's hope Veritas tops 4 million. Hopefully it will on account of James Marsters and all :)

don't forget Lois

[Jaderoyale]

Oh those ratings are gooooood :)
I wasn't going to comment until they were official. And now they are.


James Marsters could probably get 1 million viewers all by himself. :lol:

Well, everyone does love James Marsters :lol:
Hes wonderful.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Well, everyone does love James Marsters :lol:
Hes wonderful.

Absolutely, lets just hope we get a good episode now. :lol:

[SparkleforSmallville]

Awesome! So happy it went up!:)

[6-Super-Man -5]

Just 5 away from 4 million.

[aqgalaxy]

Now that's better...

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

SO now it's

Bizarro............5.18 million
Kara................4.59 million
Fierce..............4.82 million
Cure................5.18 million
Action..............4.65 million
Lara................4.38 million
Wrath..............4.64 million
Blue.................4.51 million
Gemini.............3.71 million
Persona............3.81 million
Siren.................4.01 million
Fracture..............3.67 million
Hero...................3.81 million
Traveler...............3.95 million

So it beats out the past 2 episodes. IMHO Hero cost it from being 4 Million...

[Smallvilledabest]

love it

[bizzaroboy9]

hopefully veritas can be in the mid 4 million...

[superman2001]

I thought the Episode, was great, i really did like the scene, where Clark threw Pierce, across the room, in the farm, My favorite Scene in the episode, is when Patrica Swann, told Clark, he is going to change the World, i also like the scene where Kara, saved Clark, and i also liked the scene, where Kara got her Memory back,i can't wait to see next week's episode, it is going to be Awesome.

[Routh]

I hate to burst everyone's bubbles... but 3.95 is not the finals. Due to Good Friday, final ratings will not be in until Monday, per Travis as pifeedback.com.

[Supes4Ever]

I'll check to see if it changes tomorrow, but that is confusing then, because MediaWeek still has that number up on their Thursday 3/20/08 section as the Final. If it changes, I will repost it; don't want to give out false information.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I hate to burst everyone's bubbles... but 3.95 is not the finals. Due to Good Friday, final ratings will not be in until Monday, per Travis as pifeedback.com.

Thanks for warning us. :)

[simplemath]

the ratings are kinda low for a very good episode but i think HERO actually was the reason for the ratings

[Jack-El49]

I didn't think that Pete "The Boss" Ross showing up was going to be a big inducement. I think while lots of people here have whined about not seeing Pete and wanting him back, it's clear his impact is minimal. The episode was okay but I think it looked like a quasi-meteor freak episode. TPTB need to run away from Pete Ross.

[Dannyblue1]

I didn't think that Pete "The Boss" Ross showing up was going to be a big inducement.

I think a lot of people were interested in seeing Pete come back. But instead of "Hero" being a fun, heartwarming episode in which an old friend returned, the episode boiled down to, "Pete returns to blame Clark for everything wrong in his life even though they haven't seen each other in three years. Buy Stride gum!"

[MidgardDragon]

I felt it boiled down to, "This is Pete. The same Pete as when he left. Yes he was just like this when he left but you whined about wanting him back. Your fault if you hate it. BTW, Product Placement Pete is hilarious and makes all of you whine, so we're gonna take it to the extreme, hahaha!"

[boywithbluehanger]

^ As someone who (often) complained about Pete never returning, would it be weird if I agreed with that? :eek:

So annoying when people "on top" do something under the guise "this is what you wanted" when really they just didn't want to put a lot of effort into it...like Bomberman: Act Zero or the excuse for releasing Ghostbusters 3.

[Routh]

FINAL NUMBERS are in.

SMALLVILLE 2.3/4, 3.44, 1.4/4, 1.4/4
This makes it the second least watched episode in the history of Smallville. What a shame. It was actually a good episode. :\

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats horrible...

[mctor]

3.44... thats horrible, I was so happy when I thought it was 3.95

[6-Super-Man -5]

Me too.

[smallvillelogan]

Looking at the first eight or so episodes of the season, I don't think there's much of a doubt that the episodes would be in the mid-4s if the strike hadn't happened.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I am hoping that "Veritas" will get 4 million. True, if the strike hadn't happened, I though it would at least have an average viewers of 4 million.

[Twitch]

FINAL NUMBERS are in.

This makes it the second least watched episode in the history of Smallville. What a shame. It was actually a good episode. :\

Well that sucks. What's the least watched episode by the way?

[Supes4Ever]

MediaWeek is reporting the same number as well....I REALLY HATE WHEN I GET LIED TO. I am just as mad as you guys are. When I saw the report of 3.95 on MediaWeek I jumped for joy and rushed over to post it. Now that it is 3.44, I am depressed.

Does anyone know the sources that are different for PiFeedback and MediaWeek? I always used to trust the latter, but now I am not sure I should anymore.

[Dannyblue1]

I felt it boiled down to, "This is Pete. The same Pete as when he left. Yes he was just like this when he left but you whined about wanting him back. Your fault if you hate it. BTW, Product Placement Pete is hilarious and makes all of you whine, so we're gonna take it to the extreme, hahaha!"

And if that's really what they were thinking, and really the reason for the infomercial that was "Hero," well, they basically cut off their nose to spite their face, didn't they? Because, if they were really trying to stick it to the viewers for some perceived wrong we've committed against them, all they really managed to do is shoot themselves in the foot.

And who knew writing a television show was all about punishing the viewers. :\

Whether they did the over-the-top product placement as some sort of inside joke or not, the episode still mostly sucked.

Pete has never been one of my favorite characters, and I wasn't chomping at the bit for him to come back. But I like to give the writers at least enough credit to believe they could've done better than that.

[Routh]

Does anyone know the sources that are different for PiFeedback and MediaWeek? I always used to trust the latter, but now I am not sure I should anymore.
There's no reason to not continue to trust MediaWeek. The 3.95 they posted are metered markets, which is what they thought people would understand them as. :)

[dunkman]

Basketball is my favorite thing in the world, so I was devotedly watching Smallville and switching over to CBS during the commercials. I think the NCAA Tournament would take away from the ratings. It always hurts every other network because March Madness is such a big deal.


March Madness always drove my family crazy in the 90s, because there was never any Dr. Quinn during the month of March! IMO, throwing a tomahawk is way cooler than throwing a basketball, but I guess a lot of people actually look forward to March Madness... I can be okay with most people liking sports, I guess.

[smallvillelogan]

March Madness always drove my family crazy in the 90s, because there was never any Dr. Quinn during the month of March! IMO, throwing a tomahawk is way cooler than throwing a basketball, but I guess a lot of people actually look forward to March Madness... I can be okay with most people liking sports, I guess.

Good man. Hey, I like both. My system worked pretty well last Thursday (as it will this Thursday too). haha

[vyperman7]

I was just curious why people are still concerned over the ratings this season. If you think about it, they don't really matter anymore. Due to the writer's strike, the CW confirmed pickups for next season early this year, and Smallville was on the list. So Smallville is coming back next season, and it will be the show's final season. So I could understand people worrying about the ratings if the show hadn't been picked up yet. But it has, and with next season being the last one, the ratings for next season won't matter either.

The fact of the matter is that people just don't watch Smallville anymore. The show is airing on a network that can't be seen in every state, and the show's fanbase as a whole has just fallen off. They could advertise through the roof for Smallville, and it wouldn't matter. Aside from making a Smallville TV movie that would show future events, I doubt there is anything the CW could do to increase ratings.

The only thing the CW can do now is impress the people that already watch the show enough to make them keep tuning in.

[dunkman]

Good man. Hey, I like both. My system worked pretty well last Thursday (as it will this Thursday too). haha

Does your TV have PIP? I watched the 2002 Winter Olympics on a TV with PIP, & it made it easy to watch figure skating & hockey at the same time without missing anything. I don't watch sports much, but I'm a big fan of the Olympics, because you know whom to root for! (& I'm not gay - I'm secure in my masculinity! You can't knock figure skating if you've seen "Blades of Glory")

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I was just curious why people are still concerned over the ratings this season. If you think about it, they don't really matter anymore. Due to the writer's strike, the CW confirmed pickups for next season early this year, and Smallville was on the list. So Smallville is coming back next season, and it will be the show's final season. So I could understand people worrying about the ratings if the show hadn't been picked up yet. But it has, and with next season being the last one, the ratings for next season won't matter either.

The fact of the matter is that people just don't watch Smallville anymore. The show is airing on a network that can't be seen in every state, and the show's fanbase as a whole has just fallen off. They could advertise through the roof for Smallville, and it wouldn't matter. Aside from making a Smallville TV movie that would show future events, I doubt there is anything the CW could do to increase ratings.

The only thing the CW can do now is impress the people that already watch the show enough to make them keep tuning in.

Loyal fans will keep watching even after the gum commercial episode!

[Jack-El49]

I was just curious why people are still concerned over the ratings this season. If you think about it, they don't really matter anymore. Due to the writer's strike, the CW confirmed pickups for next season early this year, and Smallville was on the list. So Smallville is coming back next season, and it will be the show's final season. So I could understand people worrying about the ratings if the show hadn't been picked up yet. But it has, and with next season being the last one, the ratings for next season won't matter either.

The fact of the matter is that people just don't watch Smallville anymore. The show is airing on a network that can't be seen in every state, and the show's fanbase as a whole has just fallen off. They could advertise through the roof for Smallville, and it wouldn't matter. Aside from making a Smallville TV movie that would show future events, I doubt there is anything the CW could do to increase ratings.

The only thing the CW can do now is impress the people that already watch the show enough to make them keep tuning in.

I guess until we are in Season 8 and know there are 22+ episodes ordered and in the pipeline, it's never a done deal. ABC announced it had "renewed" L&C for a fifth season and then turned around and canceled it causing the writers to rush through a story arc simply to conclude it - and it was the worst ending to a series one could imagine.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

SMALLVILLE 2.3/4, 3.44, 1.4/4, 1.4/4


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[smallvillelogan]

Does your TV have PIP? I watched the 2002 Winter Olympics on a TV with PIP, & it made it easy to watch figure skating & hockey at the same time without missing anything. I don't watch sports much, but I'm a big fan of the Olympics, because you know whom to root for! (& I'm not gay - I'm secure in my masculinity! You can't knock figure skating if you've seen "Blades of Glory")


No, my TV doesn't. It's OK, I will only switch over when Smallville is in a commercial.

[dunkman]

No, my TV doesn't. It's OK, I will only switch over when Smallville is in a commercial.

But how do you know you'll switch back in time to not miss anything?

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Say, I think I've been to Logan, Utah before... What's that near?

[Dannyblue1]

I was just curious why people are still concerned over the ratings this season. If you think about it, they don't really matter anymore. Due to the writer's strike, the CW confirmed pickups for next season early this year, and Smallville was on the list. So Smallville is coming back next season, and it will be the show's final season. So I could understand people worrying about the ratings if the show hadn't been picked up yet. But it has, and with next season being the last one, the ratings for next season won't matter either.

While it's very rare for a network to change its mind after officially renewing or canceling a show (which is why they usually wait until the last minute), it still does happen. But I think it's only human nature to want a show you like to do well, whether it's "safe" or not. And I think many fans would rather see SV end with a bang (good ratings) than with a whimper.


The fact of the matter is that people just don't watch Smallville anymore.

Over 5 million people were watching SV at the beginning of this season. So it's not that SV can't get veiwers, or can't get viewers on the CW. It obviously can.

[6-Super-Man -5]

SHlT

Sadly I agree, the episode was great, hopefully "Veritas" and the last five get way better then this. :(

[ClarkyBoy14]

To whoever asked:

Last year's "Prototype" was the least watched episode at 3.43 million viewers. As you can see, "Traveler" just barely beat it.

To vyperman7:

The reasons I still care about the ratings are (a) what Dannyblue1 said, (b) they determine next season's budget, and (c) they probably determine whether or not we get a two-hour series finale (which I want).

[Twitch]

To whoever asked:

Last year's "Prototype" was the least watched episode at 3.43 million viewers. As you can see, "Traveler" just barely beat it.

Thanks, Prototype was the episode with Wess wasn't it? That was a pretty good episode, I'm surprised it was the least watched.

[Dannyblue1]

Thanks, Prototype was the episode with Wess wasn't it? That was a pretty good episode, I'm surprised it was the least watched.

Well, no one knows whether an episode is going to be good or not before it airs. So an episode's ratings have nothing to do with the actual quality of the episode, or whether or not viewers liked it.

A lot of times, an episode's ratings depend on how viewers reacted to the episode before. If viewers really disliked one week's episode, it's easier for them to decide not to tune in for the next. Which is why I wasn't surprised to see a ratings drop after "Hero." Although it was bigger than I'd expected.

[Twitch]

Yeah what I said was kind of stupid now that you mention it.

Let's see... Noir aired before Prototype, I guess that's the reason right there, I know a lot of people didn't like it.

Yeah and it's a shame about Traveler, such a great episode. I blame Pete and Stride. :lol:

[jazel]

Over 5 million people were watching SV at the beginning of this season. So it's not that SV can't get veiwers, or can't get viewers on the CW. It obviously can.

true, but are they doing enough, to keep viewers coming back ?
Justice was one of the highest rated epis, ever. Isn't it a bit sad, they can't garnier that much excitement, with the "core" players of the show ?

[MidgardDragon]

Over 5 million people were watching SV at the beginning of this season. So it's not that SV can't get veiwers, or can't get viewers on the CW. It obviously can.

Exactly. It's not that "no one" watches Smallville. It's the most watched scripted show (and occasionally most watched show period) on The CW. The CW itself might not pull in massive ratings, but lots of people watch Smallville, heck lots of people that don't get The CW still watch by downloading. It's not exactly this insignificant little show that no one cares about any more like vyperman makes it out to be. It's clearly still doing something right to stay on top of The CW's programming list, ratings-wise.

As we've said time and time again, though, ratings aren't all they're cracked up to be. They don't include quite a few people who watch in those ratings, because those people don't have Nielsen boxes. That doesn't even begin to count those that don't get The CW and download the show. Then there are DVR ratings, and as someone pointed out earlier Smallville always goes up by at least a million in Live+7 ratings. It's an outdated system and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a significant change in the way networks decide programming in the next 5 years or so.

[J-BOM]

Just got a e-mail from a friend of mine who works at the CW network, he sytem the system has been flawed the last few episodes, and the correct rusults are 9 million viewers for traveler, just thought you would want to know.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i am sorry to say J-BOM, but if that were true then it would be news, from 3 million to 9 million would make the news.

[jack1487]

Exactly. It's not that "no one" watches Smallville. It's the most watched scripted show (and occasionally most watched show period) on The CW. The CW itself might not pull in massive ratings, but lots of people watch Smallville, heck lots of people that don't get The CW still watch by downloading. It's not exactly this insignificant little show that no one cares about any more like vyperman makes it out to be. It's clearly still doing something right to stay on top of The CW's programming list, ratings-wise.

As we've said time and time again, though, ratings aren't all they're cracked up to be. They don't include quite a few people who watch in those ratings, because those people don't have Nielsen boxes. That doesn't even begin to count those that don't get The CW and download the show. Then there are DVR ratings, and as someone pointed out earlier Smallville always goes up by at least a million in Live+7 ratings. It's an outdated system and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a significant change in the way networks decide programming in the next 5 years or so.


You could add all of us that have satellite service and are not consider on the radar by the big wigs. And I am sure that at least a million to maybe 2 million watch the show.

Take Care,

Jack :rolleyes:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Smallville
CW
Live+7: 4.131 million
Live: 3.124 million
Timeshifted Audience: 1.007 million
Percent Increase from Live to Live+7: 32.2%

SV ranked 18 as overall most DVRed program of the week and 2 as the most improved percent-wise from Live to Live+7. :)

Source: TVByTheNumbers.com

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^ Thanks for the info:) Wow! That's AWESOME! We finally got to a million increase! We've been so close this whole Season! Isn't this the highest increase for S7?