View Full Version : Loved it? Hated it? what did you think of 'Traveler'?
shy175223
03-19-2008, 03:18 PM
Please do not post your thoughts until AFTER the airing of the episode..
Ilovebeinglost
03-19-2008, 03:22 PM
Will do, only 2 hours and 40 mins to go.
where's the live discussion for the Canadians?
shy175223
03-19-2008, 03:26 PM
ther should be two threads one is for canadian airing It should in the SV season 7 episode listings..
Ilovebeinglost
03-19-2008, 03:30 PM
I started one hope I did it in the right spot
Thrill_Seeker
03-20-2008, 12:09 AM
WOW ! this episode was so great ! i loved patricia swann in this episode !!!
great episode, so excited for Veritas !
jazel
03-20-2008, 12:11 AM
currently, I am hating it, BECAUSE some are making it all about Chloe....*yawn*.
go_clo
03-20-2008, 02:03 AM
currently, I am hating it, BECAUSE some are making it all about Chloe....*yawn*.
Cause Chloe's awesome! :D
Jaderoyale
03-20-2008, 06:20 AM
I can't contain the excitement.
I'm sure i spelt contain wrong. :\
go_clo
03-20-2008, 06:48 AM
I can't contain the excitement.
I'm sure i spelt contain wrong. :\
Nope you actually did spell that right! -hands cookie- :D
clana4everfan2
03-20-2008, 07:02 PM
I really liked this episode and Clark really told Lionel off! haha This also brought Clark and Kara back together. Chloe and Lana as well to help save Clark.
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 07:02 PM
10/10 - One of the best of the series, I'd say.
JEWCY
03-20-2008, 07:02 PM
hero, traveler, and veritas could be the three greatest/epic episodes in smallville's history.
if the previous two were any indiciation, veritas WILL be the best smallville episode ever
MSCoder610
03-20-2008, 07:04 PM
Really liked this, Veritas looks good too. I wouldn't agree about Hero necessarily, though.
reobeem
03-20-2008, 07:05 PM
This again was another superb episode. It was good to start pulling many of the story lines together. We all knew Lionle was bad but we could not have expected him to do what he did. I wish they would have brought up the death of Briget Crosby since she was close to Swan. The preview indicated the coming of a certain someone fans have been waiting for. One thing I hated was them killing Patricia off. As a whole I gave the episode a 9/10.
CallMeClark
03-20-2008, 07:09 PM
Most definetly my favorite episode of the entire season.
Only one thing urked me. They killed Patrica Swann! I hope to Zod that is a fake death. The actress had to be the best Guest Star we've had in a while, not to mention her character has depth and compassion.
And Chloe's speech in the fortress was touching and so true! I am glad to see Chloe front and center again. :)
loistickyfingerz
03-20-2008, 07:09 PM
This was a great episode. Not filler. Lex is super evil and Lionel is still ambiguous. Very nice. It moved the storyline along beautifully.
Jaded Wolf
03-20-2008, 07:10 PM
10!!! I give this one a 10!!!
Writers of Smallville... Fans of Smallville... This is how Smallville should be! Every bit of this episode was one thrill ride after the other.
First the action started right off the bat. Clark was attacked, we see him put up a struggle, and then captured. Lionel is revealed for what he truly is. Lex schemes. There was less Lana and Chloe time. There was less Lex and Lionel time. This episode was all about Clark. More important, there was no shameless promotional plug like last week's "Hero"! This is what Smallville should be!
I was glued to my seat and cheered when Chloe told Jor-El, "You sent your only son here and entrusted us with your safety" and when she said "I love your son". That was awesome. To see Kara restored and bursting through the lab doors at the end was awesome. Kara was unleashed.
The death of Patricia Swann at the end was incredibly tragic. I was not expecting it though I did think something bad would happen to her. The revelation that Lex was behind it sent shivers down my spine. Finally, the confrontation between Clark and Lionel was awesome. When Lionel stated, "I'm a changed man" I thought no he isn't, don't believe him Clark. The music freezes and Clark, in true Superman form, states, "No you're not." I cheered.
This is the first episode in a long time in Smallville history where I have done that. This is the first time in this season I gave a 10! This is Smallville and this is how it should be done. No love triangles. No shippers. Just straight up action and mystery. I can only hope next week continues to deliver and from the looks of the preview it just might. We may see Superman rise in Smallville.
ginnyfan
03-20-2008, 07:11 PM
Wow! I give it a 10.
That moment where Chloe's love activated the fortress was just... WOW!
I really needed to see Clark get tortured.
Though it felt a little retconned... evil Lionel returns. And what a way to tie everything together. Lionel read about the Queen's deaths in the PILOT! *claps hands*
Evil Lex was yummilicious and Kara is back!
I fell hard for Patricia Swann. She had this wonderful energy that reminded me of Raya. I was hoping for more... I'm sad she's gone. :(
Well here I am, completely excited to see where the end of the season leads me. I'm spoiler free and without a clue. This episode was so exhilarating and... Lois wasn't even there!!! Wow!
:D
SmallvilleGirl101
03-20-2008, 07:13 PM
I Loved This Episode, It waz AweSome I give It A 7, Because I did not like the way clark waz tortured
CallMeClark
03-20-2008, 07:14 PM
Season 7 has proven, at least for me, to almost be as good at season 3... It's shocked me.
oldblackmagick
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
S7 is going to be the ultimate season...just u watch and see:D
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
Season 7 has proven, at least for me, to almost be as good at season 3... It's shocked me.
For me it's equal to 3, 5 and 6. Those are my favorites, but I feel that Season 7 has topped all of them.
STFanatic
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
Well, I must say I enjoyed this episode the most of the season.
I gave it the highest rating in a couple of years ;)
MB actually was a MB this spisode.
Lex Luthor was more like Lex Luthor than ever.
Of course Clark did little more than moan and bleed till the end, but he had more lines than Lana this time.
Gina Holden (Dale Arden of Flash Gordon) was a great guest star till the end anyway.
FLyxNERD
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
so is lionel good or bad
Heroes4Hire
03-20-2008, 07:19 PM
This episode was awesome and I really think this season has been the best one so far. I'm looking forward to Veritas and all the other episodes until the end of the season.
CallMeClark
03-20-2008, 07:25 PM
For me it's equal to 3, 5 and 6. Those are my favorites, but I feel that Season 7 has topped all of them.
I agreed Season 7 is by far my favorite yet. :) Only one crappy episode out of 14 so far. ;)
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 07:28 PM
Not a single vote below 6 so far. :) Looks like even the haters can't find any justification for a low vote.
CallMeClark
03-20-2008, 07:31 PM
so is lionel good or bad
I think his intentions are truly good he just executed his plan in a not so good way...
RJLCyberPunk
03-20-2008, 07:31 PM
Wow This episode was awesome! I absolutely loved it I gave it an 8 only because I did not like how they offed Young Mrs Swan like that! Other than this I loved everything else as for Clark being tortured I'd lose count on how many times Superman has been captured, tortured and beaten to nearly a bloody pulp in the comics, movies and animated shows it is something that comes with the territory of being a superhero...
savannah
03-20-2008, 07:35 PM
This episode explained so much how Kara got her memory back and how she got away from Lex and only after one day!!! Then Lionel turned to his bad side by locking Clark up in a kryptonite cage! To much to handle in a single show. Patricia Swann ad Veritas was a nice touch. It gave us a little baackground on how the Swann's, Luthor's, Teague's, and Queen's were somehow all together in a secret society called Veritas. They were supposed to protect the traveler (Clark) but all they have done is hurt him every family has somehow except for the Queens they are good. Why wasn't Lana at the fortress with Chloe or at hte when Kara was she helped get her out of the mansion?
spideyfan
03-20-2008, 07:40 PM
9/10
it was good to a lot of continuity
Pros:
Dr. Swann offspring
Bad Lionel
CK suffering
Fortress
Chloe
Cons:
Killing Patricia
CK is a moron
Also, I did not want to kill Lana in this episode
Bizarro345
03-20-2008, 07:43 PM
I liked it but honestly I didn't like the actress who played Patricia Swann. Some of her line executions were kinda wooden. Like "I want to be there for you." was a very stiff line. Loved the ending. Another addition to Lex's hit list this year. Bury her next to Julians 1 and 2 lol.
RJLCyberPunk
03-20-2008, 07:43 PM
This episode explained so much how Kara got her memory back and how she got away from Lex and only after one day!!! Then Lionel turned to his bad side by locking Clark up in a kryptonite cage! To much to handle in a single show. Patricia Swann ad Veritas was a nice touch. It gave us a little baackground on how the Swann's, Luthor's, Teague's, and Queen's were somehow all together in a secret society called Veritas. They were supposed to protect the traveler (Clark) but all they have done is hurt him every family has somehow except for the Queens they are good. Why wasn't Lana at the fortress with Chloe or at hte when Kara was she helped get her out of the mansion?
Maybe the portal can only transport about 2 people at a time? Besides then Kara would have had to ferry 2 people back instead of one and time was off the essence...
10/10 - thought it was a good episode. Some continuity, lots of Lionel, insight into Lex's plans a bit, Kara's back, CK got a new resource with the journal maybe there's some info there, and there were just a lot of good character interactions and a few good monologues in there (from Chloe and Patricia). Nice tie-in's with mythology, interesting showing that Lionel has toys to fight Kryptonians, interesting tie-in with Lionel's past.
I was mad that they offed Patricia so quickly. She was a potentially strong character who had tie's to CK, Lex, Lionel, and Ollie. I would have thought they would have kept her going for a bit and maybe explored a little more about what she had of her father's research.
Overall, was very happy that there was only one real product placement this episode that I saw - after last week I was worried that Smallville was going to be consumed by the advertisers. Maybe they were just getting it out of the way so they wouldn't have to do as much the rest of the season though.......
Anyway, good episode next week looks good too :)
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 07:47 PM
I liked it but honestly I didn't like the actress who played Patricia Swann. Some of her line executions were kinda wooden. Like "I want to be there for you." was a very stiff line.
I'm pretty sure you're the only one that feels that way, given that everyone has talked about how great she was and how much it sucked that they killed her. :)
FLyxNERD
03-20-2008, 07:48 PM
I think his intentions are truly good he just executed his plan in a not so good way...
is it me or does it look like lionel is tryna protect clark from brainiac...
SVfan4ever
03-20-2008, 07:48 PM
10/10 Best episode of the season and in my top 10 for the series. Absolutely loved seeing Lionel quaking in his shoes waiting for Clark to show up. He was actually stammering over his own words. Loved it. Lex so desperate to keep Kara in his grasp, answer all his questions and poof she's gone. Yah! Chloe's "I love your son" made me squeal. Great acting and dialogue. Clark's "No, you're not". Did I say I loved it!
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 07:48 PM
Pros:
Dr. Swann offspring
Bad Lionel
CK suffering
Fortress
Chloe
CK isn't perfect (replacement for the wrong statement of "moron")
Cons:
Killing Patricia
Fixed. :)
TheEpic331
03-20-2008, 07:52 PM
yes you are not alone seeing from that preview for next episode i would say that he really isnt bad but he just isnt going about helping the right way
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
Maybe the portal can only transport about 2 people at a time? Besides then Kara would have had to ferry 2 people back instead of one and time was off the essence...
...? or maybe its simply due to kristen is filing the new street fighter movie and her set time is limited
ClarksGal
03-20-2008, 07:57 PM
This was my favorite episode in Season 7 so far. And I can't think of any episode I've enjoyed more since Season 3. Quite frankly, season 7 has just gotten better and better for me. And I'm so geeked about next week!!!!!!! Great job, TPTB!!!!!!!
jazel
03-20-2008, 08:00 PM
I really liked P Swann, she seemed smart and cool. TOO bad (for her), she didn't "realize" how ruthless the Luthors can be. For all of the cousin Kents figuring out, how bad the Luthors are, it really won't change anything.
Hate seeing CK get tortured, makes me :(
xHerox
03-20-2008, 08:09 PM
I gave this episode a '7', but I think that it may seem better once the rest of the season is shown and some the plotlines introduced have been resolved. I say this because it's very clear that this episode sets up a lot of things that will no doubt have importance for future episodes, and while the episode was good enough without knowing what will become of the "Vertias" plot, I think it could become a true stand-out if the episodes that follow are good.
Even though I realize it was a little far-fetched, I really liked the scene of Chloe in the Fortress of Solitude. Beyond that, I liked how the typical structure of the plot was very different; the "damsels in distress", so to speak, became the heroes while Clark was the one that needed rescuing.
Overall, a good episode and a marked improvement over "Hero".
Kevin24
03-20-2008, 08:15 PM
This was a great episode!!!! I gave it a 10/10!!
Oh man from start to finish WOOOOO what a ride!!!! Kara getting her memory back and the way it was showed how she floated in the air , oh man it looked like a hero coming back to life it gave me chills!!!!
Then when she busted through the door and saw Clark suffering. The way she said "Clark" and the look on her face! It spoke volumes! Then she fried the controls and flung the cage !!! Oh man!!!
I really liked when Clark was reading the journals and he finally got a glimpse of Jor-el's plans for him and his future as Superman! I loved it all!!
quietone
03-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Great episode! Lots of mystery and action. Capped off by wonderful performances from TW, JG, and AM. Gina Holden also did a good job. She had better makeup and hair on this show than she does on Flash Gordon.
Favorite moments: Clark confronting Lionel, Chloe talking to Jor-El, Kara saving Clark, and the end scene where it's revealed that Lex killed Patricia Swann.
Speaking of, I hate that Patricia was killed off. She could have been an interesting recurring character.
Hopefully, this episode is a good omen for what's in store the rest of the season.
savingpeoplething
03-20-2008, 08:17 PM
"Traveler" is among the best episodes of the series for me. Reminds me why I started watching and loving this show in the first place.
SuperFan85
03-20-2008, 08:23 PM
Like I've said before a few episodes ago, I'm really loving that with each new episode that airs, the weekly villain is no longer a FOTW, with the exception of "Fierce". Primarily, this season the villains have mainly been either people without powers, or villains from the mythos, i.e. Lex, Bizarro, and Brainiac. And I think, due to this change in the type of villains we are presented with each week now, has made this season feel quite different than previous seasons in my opinion. This season has felt more...Superman-ish , not to mention, has felt more like a season of about learning and dealing with things that will eventually make him into Superman. It's hard for me to describe what I'm tryin to say. But it feels in essence, more like this season has relied more on story, than focusing on action sequences, or your typical battles between Clark and Meteor Freaks. lol i hope any of that made sense....
BadToad
03-20-2008, 08:24 PM
I loved this episode. It was my favorite of the season, and kept me riveted from beginning to end. I thought every character came out well tonight, and I can count on one hand the amount of times I could say that. And the actors brought their A game across the board. JG brought his A+ game.
Loved Clark, loved evil Lex, loved Chloe, loved Kara, loved evil Lionel...heck, I even liked Lana. Her line about killing Lex if he harmed Clark rocked.
Beautifully directed and shot. Prettiest ep of the season.
And the guest stars were top notch. I'm sorry to Patricia go.
I'll give this one a 10.
Darth Pipes
03-20-2008, 08:25 PM
Voted 9 out of 10. Excellent episode, a lot better than freak-of-the-week. Clark was in the background again this week but this benefitted the episode. Terrific performance by John Glover and it's always nice to see Chief Tyrol. Was surprised by the death of Patricia Swann. It was effective and chilling though.
Clark needs to apologize to Kara for all his lies though. Like with the blue kryptonite.
MidgardDragon
03-20-2008, 08:25 PM
This season has felt more...Superman-ish
Exactly. They paved the way for that in Season 5 with the introduction of the FOS and his first Super Villain. In Season 6 they moved things forward with the intorduction of the Justice League and other heroes. And now they've moved things to the next level and this is essentially Superman without the tights.
Smallvilledabest
03-20-2008, 08:27 PM
I gave it a 9. I would have liked to see P Swann around for a few more epis.
TECHWON
03-20-2008, 08:27 PM
Season 7 has proven, at least for me, to almost be as good at season 3... It's shocked me.
this season has been better than the last few especially seasons 4,5 & maybe 6 where i felt it dragged on with the story and all these sub-plots and i think they've gotten back to the basics in churning out good stories and keep the season interesting. so yeah i've been very satisfied with this season.
major325
03-20-2008, 08:36 PM
I think it was a very good episode. Give it a 9.5 :D They managed to stir up a lot of action and dust, and answered just a couple of questions while opening up a bigger can of worms. The action was a bit faster than past few episodes, which was good. In a lot of cases the acting was a bit more understated, however, that made the interpersonal reactions all the more remarkable...especially Chloe's plea to Jor-El. She wasn't caught up in emotions. She was making an honest personal plea in words that even a Kryptonian father would understand. Besides his initial visit to the Kent farm, and his interactions with Lionel, Jor-El has only directly spoken to one human...that was Martha Kent It was a very short conversation but showed a degree of compassion and gratitude. I would like to think that sooner or later, Jor-El will decide to have a similar talk with Chole.
I think they are playing around with us about Lionel's motivations. I think Jor-el still has quite a bit of influence on Lionel and his personality change. Lex continues his murderous slide into the dark evil deceitful monster he is becoming. I keep waiting for Clark to finally change and get a clue. He continuously makes bad choices and rushes to wrong/bad conclusions without getting his facts straight. He keeps butting heads with Jor-El, while Jor-El has yet to give him bad or false information/directions. What is it going to take for him to finally trust Jor-el....the final season maybe? ;)
I am looking forward to the next episode moving us closer to Clark's eventual destiny. The teaser trailer looks promising!
STFanatic
03-20-2008, 08:46 PM
Maybe that is why Jor-el didn't speak, he was busy possessing Lionel's body :p
ClarkyBoy14
03-20-2008, 08:52 PM
10/10
An amazing episode.
My biggest complaint is that Patricia Swann should have lasted longer. But I guess it's a good sign when people are upset when a guest character dies, right? It also showed how Lex is continuing to fall.
One other thing, are they trying to say Lex's window has always been like that?
I loved everything else. Also, I watched SV for the first time in HD tonight, and it looks AMAZING!
bizzaroboy9
03-20-2008, 09:28 PM
i gave it a nine because patricia swann was killed off, if the writers didnt kill off patricia swann, i would have gave this a ten...
SteveS
03-20-2008, 09:33 PM
I gave it a 10 because of Chloe's prominence and lois' absence. Makes for a superior episode.
Mar-El
03-20-2008, 09:38 PM
I gave it a 10.
It's easily the best episode of the season. Furthermore, like others have mentioned, it has everything that a Smallville episode should have. I just love how this episode sets things up for Veritas while revealing shocking revelations in its own right.
I had reservations that Traveler would only be good as a prelude to Veritas but it stands strongly on its own right.
SO glad Kara got her memory back.
monel49
03-20-2008, 09:48 PM
Pretty frakkin' good!--that's for our favorite Cylon Chief Tyrol who did a great job as Pierce in this episode. Gave the whole thing a nine as the plot gets deeper and motivations get murkier. What I like about Smallville is the way the writers are able to give a depth to the mythos that comics just can't do. I like where they are taking this. I'll add my tears to those who mourn Patricia Swann--she was a promising character cut down in her prime! Best line in a long time: Release the Son of Krypton!
6-Super-Man -5
03-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Gave it a 9.
SnowBird
03-20-2008, 09:57 PM
WOW...Loved the show. No one does pain better than Tom. Chloe declared her love for Clark. I think she has always loved him. All of the actors did a great job. Answers questions and makes more. Where did Lana disappear to? Would have liked to see a conversation between Chloe and Clark and how she helped save him. Who will be alive that knows Clark's secret at the end of Smallville? I gave this episode a BIG TEN!
lillie_poo_pod
03-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Damn you Smallville for making me love you again. *sigh*
This episode was AWESOME! There was some plot holes and all that good stuff Smallville episodes have, but other than that, I have to admit I loved it. Seriously, so much love for this one.
Lionel, I love you. Lionel rocked. I don't think he's back to his full MB status, but he's not totally good either. I can live with that. I did love the first Lionel and Patricia scene. If only I could have JG all up in my face like that. Oh wee.
The Chlana teaming up to save Clark was good. I wasn't looking forward to seeing them work together, but I have to admit, I liked it. It was all about saving Clark. And again this episode emphasized on the Isis thing, with Lana saying she'd kill Lex if he hurt Clark and Chloe saying she'd climb Mt. Everest to save him. And Chloe did indeed travel to the ends of the earth to save Clark.
I liked Patricia. She was cool. I'm going to miss her. I thought she'd be around for Veritas, but she died. =(
Peirce! Peirce ROCKED!!!!! So menacing, I loved it. I wish he would have stuck around longer. It was nice to finally see someone who agrees with Lex's 33.1 and the reason behind it.
I didn't have a problem with Kara this week. The episode wasn't really focused on her and that was good. I did love the light show in the fortress when she was getting her powers back. So pretty and cool.
Chloe. Chloe, I love you. Chloe is made of WIN. Seriously, the girl is awesome. The plea to Jor-El was great. It tugged at the heart strings a bit and made the Chlark in me squee with joy. Whether it was platonic or romantic(I think it was the latter) it was beautiful and AM played the hell out of that scene.
CLARK. I loved him in this episode. Him being tortured like that made me so sad. I don't like seeing him hurt. But TDub looked so hot all bloody and sweaty. I loved his confrontation with Lionel, I really did. It reminded me so much of season 5's Mercy. Especially, the "You're not my father" line. And I loved the music rising up and cutting off to let Clark say "No you're not" to Lionel. I don't know why, but I thought that was awesome.
I have to wonder something though. Why would Lex kill Patricia. I don't really think he did it. I think it was Lionel that put the hit out on her, but Lex had her followed and that's how he got the necklace. *shrug* I just don't really see a reason behind Lex killing her.
Overall the episode was great. One of the best of the season, and that's not a lot. The darkness of the episode gave it a season 3 feel to me. And season 3 is my favorite season.
I gave it a 9. Don't let me down Smallville.
jazel
03-20-2008, 10:40 PM
LOVED Kara and Clark....everybody else, can just slither away ! PLEASE ? :lol:
Superman's Princess
03-20-2008, 10:41 PM
Traveler was a great episode I gave it a 9.
Chloe saying she'd climb Mount Everest to save Clark
Chloe going to the fortress with Kara pleading with Jor-el to restore Kara's memories so they could save Clark. Confessing her feeling about Clark to Jor-el.
Kara getting her powers back. That looked so awesome. Then Kara coming to Clark's rescue.
Lionel was great in this episode. Has he changed or is he evil and just been trying to to get close to Clark?
I usually don't really like Lana, but I really liked Chloe and Lana working together to help save Clark.
do3mire
03-20-2008, 11:01 PM
Great episode. Fantastic opening. Then, Lionel was top-notch. Ambiguously riveting. JG was smoking hot. I've never bought Chlana so the Chlana scoobying was not my cup of tea. But it moved the story along. Then, Chloe's "I love your son" knocked me out of my chair. Sh*t! She's finally admitted it. I agree with many of the posters about Swann. She was a great guest character and added a lot to the show. Tying the Queens, Teagues, Luthors, etc. Everyone loves a conspiracy. Her death was a surprise. Didn't see it coming. NICE!!!
The episode has a pre-season finale feel to it, doesn't it? Well, I suppose it was originally a pre-season finale. Good job!
RedlandsMBA
03-20-2008, 11:56 PM
:pI liked this episode the best because it seems like the entire crew, chiefly the people behind the camera seem to want to make hard core fans like us happy. I'm not sure if there are a lot of fans of any genre who cherish a particular piece of American pop culture like Krypton Site fans do! Take the ball and run with it Smallville Production Crew!
Lostfan588
03-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Cause Chloe's awesome! :D
TRUE.
:lol:
Kel-El09
03-21-2008, 12:07 AM
I loved this episode!! It was a nice change, especially after a somewhat disappointing "Hero." I'm more of a clana fan, but the lines delivered from Chloe about how she feels about Clark is enough to melt anyone's heart. I mean, we all know she's had feelings for Clark since episode ONE...but she never has never spoken about loving him, and the fact that she says it for the first time to his father is just sooo sweet!
lastdaughterofkrypton
03-21-2008, 12:46 AM
I gave it a 9
Despite of the plot holes it was very well executed and I join the morners of Patricia Swan because I liked her and also Lex killing her didn't made any sense.
I will like to say that all the guest stars did a great job and that helped a lot: Pierce, Maybemercy, Cureminion... Lex is actually keeping his minions alive and loyal! kudos for him. It makes an interesting parallel to drunk desperate Lionel getting betrayed and working practically alone.
I think someone is ready to step on MB shoes. ;)
Kel-El09
03-21-2008, 12:48 AM
I think the only reason he killed her was to get the locket. Other than that..I don't know...because she had information he didn't have, so it wouldn't make sense to kill her. When they were talking at the mansion, Lex kept staring at the necklace and finally said "that's an interesting necklace." So that's why I think he killed her, to get the key.
Jack-El49
03-21-2008, 03:41 AM
I gave it a 10 - my first 10 of the season. Other than the death of Patricia Swann, what's not to like about this episode?
Yasise
03-21-2008, 04:02 AM
I gave it a 8. Besides "Bizarro" and "Persona" it will be one of my fav ep's this season.
I liked the whole Veritas story line and I liked Patricia Swann. The scene with Clark and Lionel at the end was awsome played by both of the actors - wow!
Lex was at his usual evil best. What can I say, Michael Rosenbaum is a great actor!
Chloe and Lana as the rescue team was cute and they did an excellent job.
What I didn't like so much, was the whole cage thing:
Sorry, but Clark surrounded by kryptonite and the man, who captured him is even able to rise the level of the kryptonite exposure on Clark....then I just don't buy it, that Clark is able to move so much, to talk quite a bit and to almost stand up as soon as Kara's thrown that cage away????
No, I don't buy that - too much of kryptonite for Clark to be able to handle it like that.
I didn't like the scene with Kara and Clark at the end:
Come on, they see each other for the first time (I don't count the rescue scene) after her leaving to Lex's mansion in "Hero" and Clark has any reason to be happy (first of her having been able to save her and second because she has her memories back again) and that's all we get???
I mean, he stands there on the stairs above her and throws the bracelet over to her....I would have expected a warmer "welcome" and "thank you" of Clark. I think, she deserved at least a hug, didn't she? They're cousins and after all that happened he has only some words from above for her???
Call me sentimental or too critical, but I really missed the feelings in that scene. And that confirms my thought "no chemistry at all between the two cousins" again.
But, as I said above, at least another good episode for me this season. Haven't been so many till now. I hope it'll go on like that. ;o)
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I gave it a 10 - my first 10 of the season. Other than the death of Patricia Swann, what's not to like about this episode?
I had a few points ;)
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I gave it a 9
Despite of the plot holes it was very well executed and I join the morners of Patricia Swan because I liked her and also Lex killing her didn't made any sense.
I will like to say that all the guest stars did a great job and that helped a lot: Pierce, Maybemercy, Cureminion... Lex is actually keeping his minions alive and loyal! kudos for him. It makes an interesting parallel to drunk desperate Lionel getting betrayed and working practically alone.
I think someone is ready to step on MB shoes. ;)
Except of the 9, you gave it, totally agreed :)
GuardianAngel
03-21-2008, 04:11 AM
9. Great episode, except for a few things:
- Chloe using the Daily Planet computer without any problem (wasn't Lex playing Big Brother with them?)
- Lana suddenly disappearing with no explanation and not coming back.
- Patricia Swann's premature death. She could have helped Clark mature!
- the fact that no one understood the lesson Jor-el was trying to tech Clark after the events in "Blue" and "Gemini" and prefers to consider him an hostile AI but which, when convenient, can help. Jor-el didn't freeze Clark for no reason. The BDA inserted a dangerous crystal in the FOS console again and nearly caused doomsday for human beings (again).
So Clark didn't learn from his mistakes, hates Jor-el, but got saved by Kara only because Jor-el restored her powers to protect him. How convenient!
skully
03-21-2008, 05:10 AM
I'm stuck "up country" on the Easter weekend with no access. From the outstanding voting I can't wait to see the episode (probably late Monday). And it looks like we've got some excellent episodes coming up. The Great Show keeps delivering.
skylar
03-21-2008, 05:27 AM
They have bounced back from last weeks episode. Oh!! So good. The whole show had me on the edge of my seat. Clark looked so sexy all bloody and weak. Damn! This was a 10 for me.
Jaderoyale
03-21-2008, 05:58 AM
I've only just recovered from the IMMENSE glee the episode gave me.
I was expecting the best. And it was delivered.
It was so. Good.
I have to give it a 10. Or else i won't forgive myself.
Even though i'm unhappy they killed off Patricia, she could have been good in future episodes. But still.
Ah.
I agree with everyone thats said its like a reminder of Season 3. THE SHEER JOY OF IT.
*explodes with glee*
STFanatic
03-21-2008, 06:20 AM
It must have been good, only one vote (at the time I post this) under a "7" and that is a "3".
I know it got the highest vote from me all season.
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I will watch it again today and see how much I missed.
(The only drawback of being a Mod is checking the boards during the episode.)
KaraClarkfan
03-21-2008, 06:29 AM
the best! better then hero. KARA GOT HER MEMORY BACK!! YAAAAAA!!!!
Jaded Wolf
03-21-2008, 06:30 AM
Exactly. They paved the way for that in Season 5 with the introduction of the FOS and his first Super Villain. In Season 6 they moved things forward with the intorduction of the Justice League and other heroes. And now they've moved things to the next level and this is essentially Superman without the tights.
Yeah... Um... No...
For progression to happen it has to be steady. Thus far it has been bumpy with no clear indication where the writers were going. However, this episode definetely put things back on track. I just hope it can stay there.
Krypton935
03-21-2008, 07:11 AM
10!!! OMG! WoW that was frickin' amazing! I can't believe how awesome that episode was. everything about it was great and I am personally very excited about MB being back. This episode ROCKED! It definitly looked amazing in the preview trailer but it exceeded my expectations! wonderful episode! I can't wait for Veritas!
HoOkEdOnSmAlLvIlLe
03-21-2008, 07:50 AM
Ok, WOW!!! This episode was definetly my favorite for season seven and pretty far up there on the list of favorites of the entire series....it was AMAZING!! It started out action-packed and kept you glued to the TV through the whole thing.....
TW was amazing (soo good!) and I loved how Chloe proclaimed how she felt to Jor-El...Did I say Amazing!?
Kara getting her memory back was also great....and I loved how Lionel and Lex were finally bad!...I never trusted Lionel! :)
I actually thought that P. Swann dying added a lot to the episode....I did love her acting and what she brought to the show, but it was completely unexpected and made you gasp!...I at first thought that Lionel killed her but then it panned to Lex and they revealed that he was the actual killer (did anyone understand that? I was confused as to why Lex killed her?)....Anyway, she will be missed, but I think that it was a good move...
I totally agree with most everyone who has already posted their thoughts.....this is exactly what Smallville was meant to be...and this was the reason I watch the show....Cant wait for next week!!
DailyPlanetFan
03-21-2008, 07:53 AM
This was an EXCELLENT episode, and I only have to say one thing:
GLEN WINTER SHOULD DIRECT EVERY SINGLE EPISODE! This episode was not only amazing for all the usual reasons, but it's great when it's pretty to look at it, too. Glen knows what he's doing, and his camera/photography work was just a joy to witness. Did y'all see some of those Metropolis shots? Simply phenomenal. Glen is definitely my favorite Smallville director. Of all time.
Other highlights from the episode:
1. The action as at a high - loved the opening fight with Clark and Pierce.
2. The Chloe/Lana team-up. Loved seeing them together.
3. Everything Lionel/Lex/Patricia. Made me want to make sweet, sweet love to the show.
4. Pretty much all of Chloe and Lana's lines: "If Lex harms Clark I will kill him." "I love your son." "If it meant saving Clark I'd climb Mt. Everest."
5. Kara's "rebirth". Simply epic. EPIC.
6. Of course, the rescue, and Clark's interactions with Patricia Swann.
7. And who didn't gasp when Ms. Swann got shot?
Such a good episode, I was smiling the entire time.
LoveHurts38
03-21-2008, 07:56 AM
I give an 8....The best part for me the Luthers!
Darkcook
03-21-2008, 08:02 AM
OMFG!!!!! OMFG!!!! OMFG!!!!!! I agree with everything already said here! That was my favourite 14th episode ever, my favourite episode since "Blue", and even my favourite of the season!
Actually, since a few episodes, there was still something bugging me, disappointing me, but here....! Patricia's death at the end, Lionel, Lex, Kara, everything... PERFECT! I'm regaining trust on Smallville! :)
clarkbunny
03-21-2008, 08:49 AM
One word Magnificent.
I absolutely LOVED this episode. I was on the edge of my seat. Has Lionel really been bad along? Did Lex kill Patricia Swann or has he kidnapped her? What was Lionel going to do with the notes he took from Patricia? Oooh so many questions, I can't wait for the next episode!!! :)
Kal-El-073
03-21-2008, 08:59 AM
This was a great episode IMO. Much better than Hero. I was happy to see Kara finally get her memory and powers back. The part where she blew the doors open and rescued Clark kicked major butt. I do kind of disagree with what happened to Patricia at the end, but it was probably part of the bigger plot. I can't wait to see what unfolds next week.
MidgardDragon
03-21-2008, 09:18 AM
Haha, I hope whoever gave it a 3 feels lonely down there all by themself. :D
thorski
03-21-2008, 09:44 AM
Loved the episode, thought it was right on.
I think Jor-el was silent because Terence Stamp has like 8 movies coming out in 2008.
OK when Lana says "the only people who know about Clark's weakness are here in this room", what about Pete???? Aren't there a few others?? His Mom?
What I want to see is Clark calling his mom, or show Clark in Washington DC hugging his mom and telling her about Lionel. I really miss the connection he had with Martha, and that was such a strong part of the first 6 seasons, how can they have that relationship just disappear. Even if they just mention her every once in a while that would be great. I hope they bring her back in season 8, along with Perry White to setup the future of Superman.
All about Clark
03-21-2008, 10:19 AM
I gave it a 9. Just wished Clark had more scenes.
Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, do you even know what you are doing? And Lionel had Patricia killed. How can he not see what he is. Yeah, I'm ready for Lex to off him.
BWOracle
03-21-2008, 10:33 AM
Most of the episode deserved an 11 but a few misses (and the fact that the poll tops out at 10) left it at a 10 for me.
Everything there was great but a few things were left out or on the cutting room floor.
I thought Kara was too trusting of Chloe and Lana too quickly. She left the farm because she couldn’t trust Clark and Lana. But all Chloe and Lana have to say is come with us and you have to trust us and off she goes with them. No argument or questions.
Even though I know that Lana couldn’t be at the Fortress when Chloe said the “I love your son” line, they should have given at least some throw away dialog as to why she wasn’t there – she’s going to keep an eye on Lionel, look for more information on the lab in case Chloe failed, etc.
It may have been due to a scheduling conflict or money issue but at least one line from Jor-El would have been nice. At the least, pull a line of dialog from one of his previous appearances. It just seemed like the sound guys missed a beat when they mixed the sound track.
I also thought Lionel’s motivation for kidnapping Clark was never really explained. Patricia Swann didn’t threaten Lionel until after Clark had already been kidnapped. Anonymous notes didn’t seem to be much of a threat to Clark. And since he had killed all the other members of Veritas, he already had Clark to himself.
Everything else was a big plus:
The Clark TAZER scene was well done.
The look on KK’s face after she said she would kill Lex if anything happened to Clark.
The actress who portrayed Patricia Swann really nailed it. She had some really good lines – wanting to see the traveler change the world; if he is the Traveler, he’s leaving with me; etc. I think they could still bring her back. We never actually see her dead. Perhaps it was a dart instead of a bullet which could still explain the blood on the locket.
There were a lot of references to past episodes although someone who was a newbie or only watched occasionally would have been really lost.
The special effects when Kara got her powers back at the FOS were terrific. I think she must have had a change of clothes at the Fortress, though.
Lionel’s agitated look before the final scene with Clark.
Overall, great episode. Next week’s episode looks awesome as well. Looking forward to it.
HoOkEdOnSmAlLvIlLe
03-21-2008, 10:39 AM
Haha, I hope whoever gave it a 3 feels lonely down there all by themself. :D
HAHAHA....lol....Whoever it was should just confess right now!!...lol
Superchica1203
03-21-2008, 10:41 AM
Most def my favorite episode of the season!! Lionel's true color have finally risen. And that last scene b/w him and clark...well... WOW!!!
BWOracle
03-21-2008, 10:58 AM
My biggest complaint is that Patricia Swann should have lasted longer.
Yes, Like STRIDE Gum !!!:)
smallvillelogan
03-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Gave the whole thing a nine as the plot gets deeper and motivations get murkier. What I like about Smallville is the way the writers are able to give a depth to the mythos that comics just can't do. I like where they are taking this. Best line in a long time: Release the Son of Krypton!
I agree! The depth can be so better felt and portrayed on-screen. Love it!
10. This episode had so many reveals, and had a great backstory with the Veritas society that really ties together all of the rich families from previous seasons and makes it seem more complete.
The plot seemed to just get richer through this episode, and I'm talking about the whole series. With Veritas, the entire series seems deeper in plot.
The special effects were AWESOME. Kara getting her powers back... amazing. That girl is an angel. Also, as far as FX goes, loved the look of the kryptonite cell, and I thought Supergirl using her heat vision looked really good.
I loved the girls' determination to save Clark, though I think that Chloe's "I love your son" to Jor-El was platonic, not romantic, as mentioned earlier.
*I just wish that there was a reason why Jor-El froze Clark, rather than him doing it just as like a 'time-out.'
realblackhart
03-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Awesome Episode, by far one of the best of the season. So Swan died, what are you gonna do; next Lana wasn't in the fortress, that gave Chloe the opportunity to declare her love to Jor-el's son. That is what convinced Jor-el to restore Kara's memory and powers; Lana wouldn't have done that. That was the high point of the episode, i jumped up in the air for that part i gotta say. Next a few people have mentioned this allready but remember that Lionel is the oracle, his intentions were good. He asked the guy to hurt Cark, Lionel was just trying to get rid of anybody who knows Carks secret to protect him from Braniac. At this point to many people know Clark's secret. Lex got Swan killed to get the locket. Overall Lionel has tried to help Clark the last couple of seasons, I think he is misunderstood. We all know Lex is the real villian here.
I don't see how they can do a Season 8 without Lex. I know that Lana is a part of Superman history but I think most of us can agree she has overstayed her welcome.
HoOkEdOnSmAlLvIlLe
03-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Yes, Like STRIDE Gum !!!:)
LOL...Good One....!:rotfl:
realblackhart
03-21-2008, 11:03 AM
I gave it a 9. Just wished Clark had more scenes.
Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, do you even know what you are doing? And Lionel had Patricia killed. How can he not see what he is. Yeah, I'm ready for Lex to off him.
LEX got Swan killed not Lionel
ash91
03-21-2008, 11:06 AM
this episode was fantastic and thats such a relief after the awful hero episode. this is definitley what i expect from the 7th season of smallville, and it had a much more dark and atmospheric feel to it. the shots were beautiful and the twist at the end when swann was shot was great- although i'm sad to see such a promising character go (if she is actually dead- you never know!) can't wait for next week's episode now- hope it doesn't let the momentum slip
berniepooh
03-21-2008, 12:37 PM
I agree with most of you. This episode was wonderful. I gave it a 9.
Solid story telling and beautiful composition and cinematography. The acting and direction was masterful on almost all counts. One point where I differ with most of you are the negative comments regarding the Hero episode. It was obviously a catalyst for the Stride comic book competition that is running on line, but the point of Pete's return was played in the exchanges between Pete and Clark like "How would your Dad feel if he knew Lionel was sipping coffee in your kitchen?"
Pete also made the observation that Lionel could not be trusted, and warned Clark he had lost his perspective since Johnathan's death and been suckered in by Lionel. Pete accurately pointed out that neither of the Luthors would ever stop trying to get at his secret and use it for their own gains. Pete's objectivity from his long time absence set the scene for the action of Traveler. And, Sam Jones III delivered a great deal of information with conviction and strength while limited to a few lines of dialog to achieve that point. This is the sign of a good actor. I hope he comes back for more guest appearances. He has repeatedly been under appreciated.
Other than that, I agree this episode was among the all time best and this season very much reminds me of Seasons 1,2 and 3. I also agree this episode delivered on what most SV fans were clamoring for all last summer. Getting on with Clark's development into Superman. It definitely felt like a Superman story.
BRAVO to all involved.
HoOkEdOnSmAlLvIlLe
03-21-2008, 12:50 PM
I agree with most of you. This episode was wonderful. I gave it a 9.
Solid story telling and beautiful composition and cinematography. The acting and direction was masterful on almost all counts. One point where I differ with most of you are the negative comments regarding the Hero episode. It was obviously a catalyst for the Stride comic book competition that is running on line, but the point of Pete's return was played in the exchanges between Pete and Clark like "How would your Dad feel if he knew Lionel was sipping coffee in your kitchen?"
Pete also made the observation that Lionel could not be trusted, and warned Clark he had lost his perspective since Johnathan's death and been suckered in by Lionel. Pete accurately pointed out that neither of the Luthors would ever stop trying to get at his secret and use it for their own gains. Pete's objectivity from his long time absence set the scene for the action of Traveler. And, Sam Jones III delivered a great deal of information with conviction and strength while limited to a few lines of dialog to achieve that point. This is the sign of a good actor. I hope he comes back for more guest appearances. He has repeatedly been under appreciated.
Other than that, I agree this episode was among the all time best and this season very much reminds me of Seasons 1,2 and 3. I also agree this episode delivered on what most SV fans were clamoring for all last summer. Getting on with Clark's development into Superman. It definitely felt like a Superman story.
BRAVO to all involved.
I totally agree with you.....if it were not for the Hero epi.....Traveler would not have been as amazing as it was!
Jack's_Son
03-21-2008, 12:51 PM
I enjoyed the episode in spite of its flaws. (e.g. Clark getting captured so easily; Lex' "back door" still being open)
I almost fell for the red herring that Lionel had reverted to his evil side, but I truly believe that Lionel wanted to protect Clark from the threats he was receiving. Although, it IS a strange way to protect someone; by locking them up in a cage and assigning a sadistic psycho to be the lead guard.
For those of you who wish that Patricia Swann could have stuck around, please understand that the actress who played her, Gina Holden, is in demand. Not only did she star in "Flash Gordon", but she also appeared as Coreen in "Blood Ties" (Vicki Nelson's assistant) and will be appearing in upcoming films on the big screen.
Mrs_Tom_Welling
03-21-2008, 01:02 PM
it was soooooooooooooooo good:D
MetroGirl06
03-21-2008, 02:03 PM
Well, I didn't hate it, so that makes it a good episode in my book. :lol: 7/10
Yasise
03-21-2008, 02:06 PM
..........OK when Lana says "the only people who know about Clark's weakness are here in this room", what about Pete???? Aren't there a few others?? His Mom?
What I want to see is Clark calling his mom, or show Clark in Washington DC hugging his mom and telling her about Lionel. I really miss the connection he had with Martha, and that was such a strong part of the first 6 seasons, how can they have that relationship just disappear. Even if they just mention her every once in a while that would be great. I hope they bring her back in season 8, along with Perry White to setup the future of Superman.
Totally agreed - there are in fact more people, who know Clark's weakness, but maybe Lana ment only those, who were in town???
And to Martha: Yes, it's really odd, that Clark don't even mentions her or talks with her at the phone. There is no need to show her but only Clark, who assumingly is talking with her on th ephone, like Lionel e.g. did in "Phantom" in the elevator.
It's almost as if she's dead, too. Really strange! :confused:
Mars Investigations
03-21-2008, 02:25 PM
This episode was fantastic. It's easily one of my favourite of the series (not just the season). I actually can't think of anything that I disliked about it.
Kal26
03-21-2008, 02:37 PM
I loved it, and am happy to say my wife was ecstatic to get Kara back!
I loved Chloe's speech to Jor-El in the fortress!
I loved the action scene with Kara!
The biggest thing for me, was that I was actually proud of Lana. I hate Lana, but this was a great redeeming episode for the character imo. I loved the line "If Lex hurts Clark, I will kill him"!
All in all, I gave it a 10........thousand!
I also liked how it ended, but would have liked little swan to be in more episodes.
Izzysand
03-21-2008, 02:53 PM
I loved this episode, very well written, a lot of information given, sets up for the next episodes, i'm so exited for the next. This is the Smallville I love so much. I agree with the ones who think that Patricia Swann should have returned for more episode, TW JG AM and MR deserve KUDOS for their performances. LOVE YOU SMALLVILLE. This is how my favorite show in the whole world should always be and by the way I give this Episode a Super 10
ClLaLeChFAN01
03-21-2008, 02:56 PM
Absolutely awesome episode!!! however, does anyone else believe that Lex and Lionel are drinking a lot more these days?
Rachel B
03-21-2008, 03:09 PM
I have not postd in what seems like forever. This episode forced me out of lurkdom. I loved it! It's a shame that I haven't felt this way about an episode in a long time. Everyone did such a great job, even Lana (who I normally can't stand to watch) did a good job.
But my favorite would have to be Chloe! She was made of awesomesauce! It took a lot of guts to go to the FoS and ask Jor-El for help. Knowing that just weeks ago he froze Clark. So I enjoyed Traveler and I hope that Veritas can keep up the pace!
superpal1
03-21-2008, 03:33 PM
The episode was really well done and i'm glad that the mythology of the show was at the for front.
babyluthor
03-21-2008, 03:40 PM
I thought this one was pretty good. I'm glad to see the characters getting back to normal ex. Kara - powers, Lionel - bad. The introduction of the veritas club was a great way to bring back and connect some of the main characters of the past. I like Patricia Swan. I can't believe she just got shot! Lex you bastard haha. I think she would have been a good character to have in several episodes. Hmm maybe she will survive. Can't wait to see the next episode :)
DreadShamus
03-21-2008, 03:52 PM
9. A solid return to what I have been expecting of this season since those amazing first episodes of season 7.
dunlopc
03-21-2008, 04:57 PM
Rotten episode to many gaping holes in the story.
Humdinger
03-21-2008, 05:03 PM
This beats the hell out of the previous episodes. Great action, Clark centered ep. Chloe was awesome, Kara's back, Lex is eeeevil, and it looks like the MB is back. I am also sorry that Patricia Swann was killed - I would have liked to have seen more from her character. Hopefully, the following eps will continue to be this great.
MidgardDragon
03-21-2008, 05:04 PM
Rotten episode to many gaping holes in the story.
Trolling for a response, eh? Well ya got one:
:lol:
skizzo
03-21-2008, 05:06 PM
I gave it a 9. I thought it was a good introducion to Veritas, hopefully that episode will uncover some more secrets.
I thought everyone did a good job, although more Chlana would've been nice :)
PepsiMax
03-21-2008, 05:47 PM
I gave it an 8. A great episode because of all the Veritas and Traveler talk.;)
Welling_is_pretty
03-21-2008, 07:12 PM
This episode was a solid 8 for me. Great (and Allison was fantastic!), exciting with cool plot twists and action.
There were only a few small things that bugged me that kept me from giving it a higher grade.
Xanderman
03-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Ok episode. Nothing terribly new or clever here though. I loved the beginning but was disappointed with the route they took it from there. It seemed like they might be doing a true military/government operation themed ep at first, nothing to do with Lionel/Lex etc, with a secret group devoted to global security against extraterrestrial threats or something like that. But instead of going that route they just had some lone psycho imprisoning/torturing Clark, later revealed to be working for a Luthor. Would have been cooler if it was a bigger operation, with a lot of high ranking military personnel, soldiers etc involved. But they went "small time" instead. A guy that hates meteor freaks, not new. A Luthor secretly being behind something bad that happens to Clark, also not new.
The Kara plotline wasn't that interesting for me either. They ended her amnesia in a pretty bland way, having Chloe bring her to the FOS so Jor-El could magically restore her just like that. And of course Supergirl then rushes to save the day and rescue Clark afterward, who spent most of the ep stuck in a cage. After that great "military operation" seeming beginning, I was hoping for something different. Anyway.
As for the other stuff, Lex murdered another person, no big surprise. Once again they did the usual thing of making us wonder at first who was responsible, Lex or Lionel, and of course it's always Lex.
Unlike many here I enjoyed the Pete ep more than this one, even though it was a total "sell out" ep of Smallville featuring the shameless over-pimping of Stride gum and the musical stylings of OneRepublic. heh
7.5/10
Girlpower888
03-21-2008, 09:03 PM
While I'm starting to worry about Allison Mack's diminishing weight, I loved to see some of Chloe's excitement and ingenuity back in this episode. Her speech in the Fortress was inspired and we got to see a little of that Chloe sparkle as she declared her love. Where's that sparkle been this year?
I like the ambiguity with Lionel's character. He played evil so well for so long. Clark seemed grossly naive to trust him. I love that they are leaving it open. Even if Lionel were trying to be good, he clearly has no moral compass to guide him. The shot of him with the post after he killed the security guard was a great image. BTW, why the hell would he have a guy he knew loved to torture be Clark's guard unless Lionel is evil?
I loved Patricia Swann, too. I hate that they killed her. I guess Lex will have a lot more information about Clark now.
I'm so curious about how this season would end up to cut Lex's story way back since he won't be around much for season 8.
Joe-Rel
03-21-2008, 10:15 PM
A great episode in a super season, Traveler featured many riveting revelations. Lional Luther killing all the members of Veritas is belivable, but is still a chilling truth. I mean this is the same man who dined at the Kents' household for thankgiving last season, and courted Martha. Since season 4, Lionel has seemed like a changed, and better man, but thier is still that sinister snake inside him. The devil can not be redeemed, he can only appear good, and do good when it benifits him. That's the ultimate divide between the Luthers, and the Kent's. The Luthors only assist others only when they are useful to thier plans, whereas the Kent's unconditionally help others. Lionel is the most interesting Smallville chracter because his ultimate fate is ambigous. I mean we all know that Clark Kent is going to don the red and blre cape and become Superman, while Lex Luthor is going to be his arch antagonist, and Lous Lane is going to be his love interest, but how is Lionel going to influence Clark's destiny?
lastdaughterofkrypton
03-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Absolutely awesome episode!!! however, does anyone else believe that Lex and Lionel are drinking a lot more these days?
I though I was the only one that noted it! Specially Lionel he took like 4 glasses of that scotch. Frankly I tough he was a little drunk.
MidgardDragon
03-22-2008, 12:27 AM
I though I was the only one that noted it! Specially Lionel he took like 4 glasses of that scotch. Frankly I tough he was a little drunk.
I think that was the intent of showing that scene. He was quaking in his boots because he knew Clark was going to show up and he knew what Clark could do if things got really out of hand. He drank himself to a state of numbness just so that he could face Clark without whimpering like a little girl, IMO.
OliviaB
03-22-2008, 12:33 AM
Loved it. They reasserted how much Chloe loves Clark that she'd got to ends of the earth for him, while Lana jumped to the wrong conclusions about Lex, and would only kill for Clark, not go to the Fortress to plea for his life. Perhaps because like Lara she figured jor-el would see the darkness in her.
Arwenstar
03-22-2008, 12:53 AM
This episode was by far the best.
- Chloe's speech? Absolutely touching, very iconic--the whole "travel to the ends of the Earth for the man that I love" was amazing.
- Patricia Swann was awesome! It was too sad...
- Lana/Chloe teamwork!
- BADASS LIONEL IS BACKKK. YAYUH.
And Clark, being trapped in that cage, but STILL looking dignified? That's so Superman-like.
6-Super-Man -5
03-22-2008, 12:56 AM
Totally agree Wen.
jazel
03-22-2008, 01:02 AM
Maybe MY expectations, are set a bit too high, for Smallville ?:p
Sadly, I'm wondering why I continue to watch.......maybe under the "optimistic" belief, that nobody could screw with a DONE deal.:lol:
dotsie23
03-22-2008, 01:06 AM
Maybe MY expectations, are set a bit too high, for Smallville ?:p
Sadly, I'm wondering why I continue to watch.......maybe under the "optimistic" belief, that nobody could screw with a DONE deal.:lol:
Ah Jazel! Like a moth drawn to a flame:)
Arwenstar
03-22-2008, 01:12 AM
I think that people who have had high expectations for Smallville HAVE been repeatedly disappointed, save for episodes in which Allison Mack acted the heck out of or episodes where the Lionel, Lex, or Clark have gotten a lot of action, plot and depth. This episode had all of the above, and that's why I was SO excited and pumped about it!
Allison Mack? Terrific acting. She was smart, quick (hello, Lionel SUSPECT #1!), resourceful, and humble when it came to saving Clark. It showed the amount of trust between them (what doesn't this girl know about Clark?), and in all honesty, it showed to me that they save each other time and time again. Not sharing a scene, but still showing this wonderful partnership was powerful. This episode showed that not only was she willing to go to the ends of the Earth for the man she loved, but she was also willing to face a being that had tried to kill her once (tough girl!) and show her vulnerable side to, to boot!
Clark, even put in a scary and vulnerable situation, didn't cower or bow down to anyone. He was very Superman-like 'till the end. And Kara, busting in, and saving him in a VERY Super Girl way? V. Awesome.
Lana, wearing dark clothes, saying she'd kill anyone who hurt Clark? Gave me shivers. It showed me that she really isn't that innocent girl anymore, but she's fierce and tough. She's really grown into her character, and I must say that that is where her acting has really shown!
Lionel desperate and manipulative and evil ALL at the same time? Oh my god. YES. The Luthors are so back. When he said, "I'm a changed man" and Clark paused, then replied, "no, you're not" I seriously nearly died. It was WONDERFUL acting, and perfect.
There were a few plot holes, but I can overlook those because of the pure WIN of this episode.
Yasise
03-22-2008, 02:56 AM
I think that was the intent of showing that scene. He was quaking in his boots because he knew Clark was going to show up and he knew what Clark could do if things got really out of hand. He drank himself to a state of numbness just so that he could face Clark without whimpering like a little girl, IMO.
As I wrote in another thread, I actually thought, he poisoned himself. He looked so sad and really sick, it seemed to me, that he has to force himself to drink whatever was in that glas.
I actually expected him to collapse right in front of Clark, the moment he turned around to him and started to say "I'm sorry". But maybe I got that impression because he acted as if a little drunk?
But o.k., it was no poison of course, I know ;) But to me, it seemed so and it wouldn't have been so far a stretch, because I believe, he felt guilty of what he had done to Clark.
And we didn't get to know, who sent Lionel those letters, did we? Maybe next week. Thursday come fast please!!!
jazel
03-22-2008, 03:11 AM
Ah Jazel! Like a moth drawn to a flame:)
maybe, ONE day ? :lol:
Blue screen of death
03-22-2008, 04:31 AM
thought it was good. Liked how alot old "history" was tied together. My only real complaint about the epi was that it seem to move forward really fast. one minute ppl were talking about doing something ie lana/chloe figure out they need to rescue kara then she's rescued. I realize time constraints and all that but seems like that could have made a really nice 2 part or 3 part arc depending on how veritas figures in with it all. I really liked when kara got her powers back though jor-el should have said something to chloe and kara but oh well. I just like hearing terrance stamp speak he's got a cool voice. I also liked how lex is going forward he looks like he is all super villan now all he needs to do is meet superman and the legendary battles begin. I liked chief tyrols little soliloquy about lex an 33.2 too ( i don't know the actors name but he plays the chief on BattleStarGalactica and was the security guy with the kryptonite on the switch tormenting clark) Lionel is so dead too hehehe thats all i am gonna say.
eeris
03-22-2008, 04:41 AM
7
Awesome episode but it lost 3 points for killing Patricia.
last man of krypton
03-22-2008, 05:10 AM
Brilliant episode, the first I've really enjoyed in a long time. Too bad that Patricia was killed off, I would've liked to have seen her in at least one more episode.
Mars Investigations
03-22-2008, 05:23 AM
As I wrote in another thread, I actually thought, he poisoned himself. He looked so sad and really sick, it seemed to me, that he has to force himself to drink whatever was in that glas.
I actually expected him to collapse right in front of Clark, the moment he turned around to him and started to say "I'm sorry". But maybe I got that impression because he acted as if a little drunk?
But o.k., it was no poison of course, I know ;) But to me, it seemed so and it wouldn't have been so far a stretch, because I believe, he felt guilty of what he had done to Clark.
And we didn't get to know, who sent Lionel those letters, did we? Maybe next week. Thursday come fast please!!!
Wasn't that Patricia?
Yasise
03-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Wasn't that Patricia?
I don't think so. Was she??
haltoe
03-22-2008, 10:45 AM
This was the best episode in a long time. It was great to see Kara become super again and enjoyed the scene where she crashes through the wall to save the day. It was as well done as in the classic 1950s Superman series.
I hope the writers understand that Kara is a lot more fun with superpowers than without and don't do anymore powerless amnesiac storylines. The same is true of any future treatment of Clark. It's one thing for either Kara or Clark to have an occasional brush with Kryptonite but a sorry waste to render either one of them powerless.
I agree with the one writer who wanted to see some interaction between Kara and her Uncle Jor-el. It'd be nice to hear him show some humanity or there could have been a scene of Jor-el advising Kara to forget her father's evil example and use her powers for good. I think they could have shown less of Clark suffering to provide time for this. Sorry I'm not into seeing suffering or amnesia.
GuardianAngel
03-22-2008, 12:31 PM
I don't think so. Was she??
It was her, as Lionel acknowledged when they first met at the beginning of the episode.
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I agree with the one writer who wanted to see some interaction between Kara and her Uncle Jor-el. It'd be nice to hear him show some humanity or there could have been a scene of Jor-el advising Kara to forget her father's evil example and use her powers for good...
I second that.
MidgardDragon
03-22-2008, 12:56 PM
I think that people who have had high expectations for Smallville HAVE been repeatedly disappointed
I don't think jazel or the other people who have these expectations have high expectations at all. *I* have high expectations and they are met with episodes like Bizarro and Traveler, and not met with episodes like Fierce, Krypto, etc. jazel and company have unrealistic expectations and prefer to complain, that's just fact.
Yasise
03-22-2008, 02:51 PM
It was her, as Lionel acknowledged when they first met at the beginning of the episode..
Wow, I totally missed that - must watch it again :)
Imzadia
03-22-2008, 03:17 PM
10!!! I give this one a 10!!!
Writers of Smallville... Fans of Smallville... This is how Smallville should be! Every bit of this episode was one thrill ride after the other.
First the action started right off the bat. Clark was attacked, we see him put up a struggle, and then captured. Lionel is revealed for what he truly is. Lex schemes. There was less Lana and Chloe time. There was less Lex and Lionel time. This episode was all about Clark. More important, there was no shameless promotional plug like last week's "Hero"! This is what Smallville should be!
I was glued to my seat and cheered when Chloe told Jor-El, "You sent your only son here and entrusted us with your safety" and when she said "I love your son". That was awesome. To see Kara restored and bursting through the lab doors at the end was awesome. Kara was unleashed.
The death of Patricia Swann at the end was incredibly tragic. I was not expecting it though I did think something bad would happen to her. The revelation that Lex was behind it sent shivers down my spine. Finally, the confrontation between Clark and Lionel was awesome. When Lionel stated, "I'm a changed man" I thought no he isn't, don't believe him Clark. The music freezes and Clark, in true Superman form, states, "No you're not." I cheered.
This is the first episode in a long time in Smallville history where I have done that. This is the first time in this season I gave a 10! This is Smallville and this is how it should be done. No love triangles. No shippers. Just straight up action and mystery. I can only hope next week continues to deliver and from the looks of the preview it just might. We may see Superman rise in Smallville.
:eek: Wow! You pointed out all the major details of this episode, "Traveller", that captures its spirit as well as the spirit of Smallville...as it should be. I agree with everything you said, however, Smallville, as a whole new chapter to Clark Kent's story, can't be devoid of 'personal' emotional attachments. This episode was a prime example of why Clark needs them. :rolleyes: Of course, too often the silly 'love triangles' get more attention than is realistic for a future hero with the stature of Superman, but it should be conceded that Superman/Clark Kent needs and will always need his Female counterpart.
He needs her to balance his destiny and give real purpose to his existence. Without the intimacy of a Beloved, Steadfast, Trustworthy companion and Confidante, Clark would eventually want to give up. Whether it's in the make-believe world of TV or the Comics, just as in the Real World, Evil abounds persistently. Hope is ignited within us by those who sincerely keep up the 'good fight' for Good, so that we are not devoured by the evil entirely. It should be understood that for Clark to be the Superman we need him to be, we need to understand that his strength is not just Physical. His connection to Humanity is Spiritual and Emotional ...And the emotional connection that was begun and nurtured in him by his parents' love and encouragement is sought after by Clark as he grows into an adult. He needs it to 'bridge' the gap between his alieness and his humanity. :cool:
So, YES, everything you said about "Traveller", IMHO, is what Smallville should always be like. Both Chloe and Lana LOVE Clark. Their participation in this episode was concise and intense, and driven by their Love for and Loyalty to Clark. :lol: Put them together...minus Lana's willingness to kill (although I liked when she said that :p)... and Clark would have his 'Lois Lane'. :lol: Clark would have been a dead man if not for the love, devotion, and determination of those three women who rescued him. All in all, a GREAT episode! (IMO) ;)
I Cheered, too! I also rated it a 10. :)
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A great episode in a super season, Traveler featured many riveting revelations. Lional Luther killing all the members of Veritas is belivable, but is still a chilling truth. [...] Lionel is the most interesting Smallville chracter because his ultimate fate is ambigous. ... but how is Lionel going to influence Clark's destiny?
:cool: I too find Lionel Luthor a most interesting character. He was created for 'Smallville' and inserted into the Superman universe. I think it was a fantastic idea! While many of you may have already passed your judgement on Lionel, I am still not convinced yet as to what his True motives are. Yes, he may be quilty of murdering the other members of the private and elite VERITAS club, but as you've pointed out, 'Joe-Rel', since season 4 Lionel seems to have been a changed man. He even seemed confused by what was happening to him. He had no control over becoming Jor-El's Emissary, yet, he built that Kryptonite cage and once demands were made of him to deliver the Last Son of Krypton, he followed through. I still think that there are Layers of Lionel's motives that we haven't seen. He showed geniune remorse for what he'd allowed to happen to Clark, or was it out right Fear of what he thought Clark might do...especially the fear of Clark's rejection of him. :\ I think it's still a matter of us having to "wait and see" what's actually going on.
:confused:Clark never seemed to fully trust Lionel, and it was only because of the support of John Jones/MM, that Clark looked beyond his past experiences with Lionel and tried to trust him. The Martian Manhunter, who seemed curiously absent from all these happenings of late, should have some sort of explanation AND some knowledge of what 'Veritas' is all about. He says he'd been watching over Clark from a distance since his arrival in the first meteor shower. His power of invisibility should have allowed him to spy on the goings on in those meetings since they involved Kal-El. He was supposed to be his Protector and Mentor. So, I'm thinking that in order for the series to last a little bit longer, all the meaty info surrounding 'Kal-El's' destiny will be fed to us gradually, because Al/Miles and the writers hadn't really thought all this stuff up until recently ...maybe last year. :lol:
It is my own theory, OK, that LIONEL LUTHOR will be killed by his own son, LEX. That'll be the major, sinful murder that will seal Lex's Evil destiny and reveal Lionel's purpose in the foundation of Clark Kent's and Lex Luthor's adversarial relationship that survives well into their futures. :cool::\
ClLaLeChFAN01
03-22-2008, 08:33 PM
I think that was the intent of showing that scene. He was quaking in his boots because he knew Clark was going to show up and he knew what Clark could do if things got really out of hand. He drank himself to a state of numbness just so that he could face Clark without whimpering like a little girl, IMO.
Yeah I understand what you are saying, but it seems like every episode this season in almost every scene both of them are drinking. I just they are just trying to deal with their evil deeds.
PhantomZone
03-23-2008, 01:06 AM
I don't miss an episode of Smalliville, because I think its one of the best show on tv and I really thought this was one of the best episodes of the season. Besides "Bizarro", "Blue", "Gemini" and "Persona" this would round out my top 5. It was a great story that brought up many old issues from previous seasons and really kept me interested for the rest of the season. (Thank you for ending the writers strike) Anyway, it was a great Lionel/Lex episode where Chloe, Lana and even Clark were secondary characters, which I think is good for show. Not having Lois or Jimmy in it was good as well, we got a lot of focus on the main villains, the Luthors and sets up for a great new episode next week. The only negative I can say is that Patricia Swann and even Grant Gabriel could have been a longer story arc and would have lessened the Lana/Clark drama that we all get plenty of. As much as I am looking forward to "Veritas" I would have liked this storyline to continue another ep or 2 before bringing in the best villain in the show, Brainiac. There's a homerun episode when he's involved in my opinion. Thanks for reading.
jazel
03-23-2008, 01:25 AM
Sorry....BUT I'm NOT, appreciating all you had to say.:(
Why do Lionel/Lex, Lana, Chloe need to be "portrayed", as the MAIN characters ?
HONESTLY, I do NOT care about them, WHY does Smallville want to brainwash me, into "caring" about them ?:lol:
Yasise
03-23-2008, 03:51 AM
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He needs her to balance his destiny and give real purpose to his existence. Without the intimacy of a Beloved, Steadfast, Trustworthy companion and Confidante, Clark would eventually want to give up. Whether it's in the make-believe world of TV or the Comics, just as in the Real World, Evil abounds persistently. Hope is ignited within us by those who sincerely keep up the 'good fight' for Good, so that we are not devoured by the evil entirely. It should be understood that for Clark to be the Superman we need him to be, we need to understand that his strength is not just Physical. His connection to Humanity is Spiritual and Emotional ...And the emotional connection that was begun and nurtured in him by his parents' love and encouragement is sought after by Clark as he grows into an adult. He needs it to 'bridge' the gap between his alieness and his humanity. :cool:
I too, find Lionel Luthor a most interesting character. He was created for 'Smallville' and inserted into the Superman universe. I think it was a fantastic idea! While many of you may have already passed your judgement on Lionel, I am still not convinced yet as to what his True motives are. Yes, he may be quilty of murdering the other members of the private and elite VERITAS club, but as you've pointed out, 'Joe-Rel', since season 4 Lionel seems to have been a changed man. He even seemed confused by what was happening to him. He had no control over becoming Jor-El's Emissary, yet, he built that Kryptonite cage and once demands were made of him to deliver the Last Son of Krypton, he followed through. I still think that there are Layers of Lionel's motives that we haven't seen. He showed geniune remorse for what he'd allowed to happen to Clark, or was it out right Fear of what he thought Clark might do...especially the fear of Clark's rejection of him. :\ I think it's still a matter of us having to "wait and see" what's actually going on.
:confused:Clark never seemed to fully trust Lionel, and it was only because of the support of John Jones/MM, that Clark looked beyond his past experiences with Lionel and tried to trust him. The Martian Manhunter, who seemed curiously absent from all these happenings of late, should have some sort of explanation AND some knowledge of what 'Veritas' is all about. He says he'd been watching over Clark from a distance since his arrival in the first meteor shower. His power of invisibility should have allowed him to spy on the goings on in those meetings since they involved Kal-El. He was supposed to be his Protector and Mentor. So, I'm thinking that in order for the series to last a little bit longer, all the meaty info surrounding 'Kal-El's' destiny will be fed to us gradually, because Al/Miles and the writers hadn't really thought all this stuff up until recently ...maybe last year. :lol:
It is my own theory, OK, that LIONEL LUTHOR will be killed by his own son, LEX. That'll be the major, sinful murder that will seal Lex's Evil destiny and reveal Lionel's purpose in the foundation of Clark Kent's and Lex Luthor's adversarial relationship that survives well into their futures. :cool::\
I agree with all the points above - I've cut out the points I don't agree ;)
Even if Clark will outlive all his recent and all his future relationships, he has to have always people around him, who he cares about and who he loves. That's the way he was raised and that's the source for his mental strength.
The Lex Luthor topic is really a tricky one. I'm not sure either where to put him, but, as I wrote in another thread, I believe, that he has changed to a better person in "Transference", but he's still using his Luthor-like methods to get what he wants and that's what makes one unsure of Lionel's "goodness".
He proved so many times now, that he's changed, that he's loyal to Clark, but then again, something like in "Traveler" happens or better, Lionel made it happen and once again the doubts are there, whether he's really changed and what the h...* his real intentions are.
I also believe that's Lionel the one, who's going to die and it could be Lex, who kills him. So in the end the evil circle will close and he will have become like his father (before "Transference").
I wondered about the absence of the Martian Manhunter, too. Actually I've opened a thread about this question ;)
Maybe he would have helped them, when Jor-El wouldn't have restored Kara's powers and memories???
BTW, The Martian Manhunter is from Mars, why isn't it written "Marsian Manhunter" then? Not sooo important of course, I only wondered about it ;)
MidgardDragon
03-23-2008, 04:46 AM
BTW, The Martian Manhunter is from Mars, why isn't it written "Marsian Manhunter" then? Not sooo important of course, I only wondered about it ;)
Because people from Mars are called/spelled Martians, not Marsians. ;)
Yasise
03-23-2008, 05:13 AM
Because people from Mars are called/spelled Martians, not Marsians. ;)
Oh, o.k., thank you :) Learned something new again.
Dustmite
03-23-2008, 09:29 AM
Sorry....BUT I'm NOT, appreciating all you had to say.:(
Why do Lionel/Lex, Lana, Chloe need to be "portrayed", as the MAIN charactes?
Because they are. Lex, Lana Chloe and Lionel are integral to Smallville and always have been :\ I thought anyone watching the show would recognize that.
rebukey
03-23-2008, 01:07 PM
I loved it! The story moved along at a nice speed, it never dragged. There were enough twists to keep me guessing what was going to happen next. I LOVED Chloe's speech in the fortress. It is nice to hear her admit, if only to herself, that she loves Clark ... to bad no one will find out about that confession. But I was curious why Lana didn't go with Chloe and Kara to the fortress. That was a little weird to me, but if Lana was there Chloe might not have felt as free to express those emotions so openly.
It felt really good to see Lana and Chloe working together to help Clark. They have been at odds with each other for most of the season so it was nice to have scenes that remind us that they are still friends.
I was really starting to like Ms. Swan and did not expect her to die ... and at the hand of Lex no less. I thought that it would be Lionel. Great twist!!!
I agree with those who have mentioned before that we don't really know all that Lionel is up to yet. He, like his son, has an excuse for every underhanded reprehensible thing that he does. It is hard to see what is actually going on inside that head of his.
svtwamedfan05
03-23-2008, 05:34 PM
It was a pretty good episode. Supergirl is back!
Hands down the best episode of the season so far, and one of my favorites of the entire series. As much as I didn't want to see Patricia Swann die since a) she was a GREAT character, and b) the actress that played her is one of the best guest stars the show's ever had, it definitely brought a POSITIVE sense of drama to the show, which has been sorely lacking since AlMiles have made it their mission to create as many different love triangles on the show as humanly possible. Bottom line, great episode, and I can only hope that Veritas is just as good, since so far it looks pretty promising.
6-Super-Man -5
03-23-2008, 08:21 PM
It was a pretty good episode. Supergirl is back!
Yeah, and I am very happy! :)
Kirstycol
03-23-2008, 08:23 PM
ok so I take back my last weeks statement of not watching smallville anymore. I saw this episode and was actually impressed by it. If only they can keep up this calibur in EVERY episode instead of once in a while.
I thought the part where chloe pleads for Clark to Jor-el so very moving and Kara's awakening was utterly beautiful. I'm glad that Lionel was the bad guy in this episode instead of Lex. Lionel really is the real bad guy as far as I'm concerned.
That being said, it's really hard to say who killed patricia.
I'm so glad they had Aaron Douglas in this episode from BSG. The BSG actors are so awesome. They always shine in any role they play. And since we didn't get confirmation of his death, he could return.
I love the secret society thing. It looks like they are tying up the past 6 seasons. Maybe this is the last season for smallville.
vyperman7
03-23-2008, 10:37 PM
This episode just continues to prove that learning Clark's secret is often a "killer"..LOL The show has become very predictable in the sense that anyone who is not part of the major cast dies when they discover the truth about Clark. Whenever someone outside of the inner circle discovers the truth, there is absolutely no suspense anymore at all, because you know they will be killed off. I personally I think that they throw Clark's secret around way too much. Even Lionel of all people knows it.
I did find the episode to be enjoyable overall though. LOVED the scene with Chloe/Kara in the FOS. Hearing Chloe say "I love your son" made the Chlarker in me come alive again. I must say though that it seemed weird that Lana didn't come along, and I was quite bummed that we didn't actually get to hear Jor-El speak. All we got was the sudden burst of energy. The return of Kara saving Clark was great too.
I was mixed on the Veritas storyline. I think it is cool they are finally trying to tie some of the show's overall mythology together. But once again, I think that too many people are in on it. Adding yet more people to the mix that either know about Clark or events surrounding him.
The last few episodes have been enjoyable for me, and after hearing about next week's episode, I am very excited for that one.
Karafan1
03-24-2008, 12:09 AM
Best episode so far this year but it looks like "veritas" might be better
6-Super-Man -5
03-24-2008, 12:45 AM
Best episode so far this year but it looks like "veritas" might be better
I'm thinking "Vertias" will be way better.
nhl2k
03-24-2008, 07:44 AM
Well I am REALLY glad that they recovered from that pile of garbage that was last weeks episode. I gave this one a 9 because like many have said, it goes back to the Smallville plots that make the show exciting and used the shows main characters to get there. However, I had to dock a point because of how Clark got captured. This kinda goes back to how Clark seems to react differently to Kryptonite depending on how the writers want things to play out, but we've seen Clark hear a bullet go off and be able to intercept it, but he's not fast enough to dodge a taser? It made his capture seam contrived, and for that it loses a point. And I'm especially glad that they got rid of that stupid plot of Kara losing her memory. Thank you Chloe!!! :-)
Other than that, the intensity, the plot, the Lionel mystery, were all back in full force and were the main things I have loved about the show. Episodes like this really take me back to the early days of Smallville when I couldn't wait to find out how things play out. Here's hoping next week keeps this going!!!
Yasise
03-24-2008, 08:01 AM
..................... This kinda goes back to how Clark seems to react differently to Kryptonite depending on how the writers want things to play out, but we've seen Clark hear a bullet go off and be able to intercept it, but he's not fast enough to dodge a taser? ...............
Yeah, so true - unfortunately !!!
ITIMAN
03-24-2008, 10:52 PM
LOVED it !!!
ITIMAN
So much going on, need MOOOOOOOREEEE!!!
supesnumber1fan
03-25-2008, 04:19 PM
For a while now season sevens scripts have sucked balls and i was about to stop watching my favorite show of all time, but this episode totally redeemed me. This episode made me feel like I was watching episodes of seasons 1 and 3 all over again. Finally the writers are seeing that a "Hero is only as good as it's villein", and also the director was almost as good as David Nutter and Greg Beeman; they should let him direct every show for now on. -to the writers- 'Please writers of smallville keep writing like this bc some of your new scripts suck and some of us fans have better ideas for a smallville espisode than some we have seen recently. This episode was totally wicked and please please please please please keep it up.'
ROCK ON!
nhl2k
03-27-2008, 09:17 AM
For a while now season sevens scripts have sucked balls and i was about to stop watching my favorite show of all time, but this episode totally redeemed me. This episode made me feel like I was watching episodes of seasons 1 and 3 all over again. Finally the writers are seeing that a "Hero is only as good as it's villein", and also the director was almost as good as David Nutter and Greg Beeman; they should let him direct every show for now on. -to the writers- 'Please writers of smallville keep writing like this bc some of your new scripts suck and some of us fans have better ideas for a smallville espisode than some we have seen recently. This episode was totally wicked and please please please please please keep it up.'
ROCK ON!
Wow. I'm surprised you made it past last week! :rotfl:
supesnumber1fan
03-27-2008, 05:50 PM
lol
Mr. T
04-21-2008, 08:06 AM
The death of Patricia Swann was somewhat surprising. Lionel's intentions were good, he was just going about it the wrong way. I was so excited when Kara's memory became restored. I had a big smile on my face. It was also tremendously exciting towards the end when Kara burst in the warehouse to save Clark. The way she lifted the cage and tossed it upward to the enemy was superb. This episode was perfect.
Cyclops1974
05-01-2008, 12:49 PM
9/10
-1 For editing stuff. Hey, I'm critical yeah.
Great stuff, This is why I like to watch Smallville.
No further comments for now. I'm still enjoying this in my mind.
jesslang
05-14-2008, 08:01 AM
liken the luthers in this one!
lana 9
07-11-2008, 09:49 PM
i give it 8 out 10 i wish that lana went to fos with chloe love that lana and chloe work to save clark
jimmyolsenblues
07-31-2008, 06:06 PM
i gave this a 9 back when i saw it the first time, i have not watched any smallville since the season finale.
haltoe
08-02-2008, 04:47 PM
I watched the rerun a couple days ago. It was great with fine performances including those by Michael Rosenbaum and Laura Vandervoort. So since then Smallville's "management" lost the services of Michael Rosenbaum and compounded that with a foolish decision to drop Laura Vandervoort.
Given that, I don't expect to see season 8.
smallville0001
08-22-2008, 07:46 AM
Loved the episode! But now hate Lex even more for killing Patricia Swann! I liked her and then he had her killed for her locket!
Can't believe what Lionel did what he did! I'm Baffled!
11/10
Loved it!
WellingFan
11-18-2008, 03:12 PM
This episode was quality!:D
e-µ-i
01-14-2009, 01:45 PM
Great episode, especially the part when Chloe talks to Jor-el !
9/10
9-SOSIHTWB
03-27-2009, 01:15 PM
Best episode of season 7!!! 10/10!!!!!!!!!
Nimkong
03-04-2010, 07:38 PM
This episode is good.Liked how they brought back the teauges and the swans.But the plot was boring and reminded me of the episodes kara
BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
11-16-2010, 03:27 PM
If you're gonna have Clark captured this is basically how you should do it. Make the capturers work for it. The kryptonite weapons were cool and Clark tossing the dudes around was great.
As with other good episodes of season 7 are Kara- episodes. This one is really great. Even though I hated the amnesia that she got here it is atleast solved well giving credit to both Lana and Chloe. Chloe makes a good speech to Jor-el that returns Kara her powers.
The scene where she rushes to save Clark who is suffering in the cage is one of the few good moments (still a good moment no matter what season) of the season. I hated how Lionel took Clark but atleast he redeemed himself at the end which was similar to "Lara". Lionel took alot of deaths on his hands before his own end. The character got a good ending imo. One of the few farewells of S7 and it had characters like Lex, Lana and Kara to sort out...
8
SGuthrie27
11-21-2010, 05:01 PM
Love it! LOOOOOVE it! This is SUCH a good episode. The ladies of Smallville got to perform their own major super-save, and I heartily enjoyed seeing their teamwork. Kara got back her memories and powers -- about time! Chloe's claim of, "If it meant saving Clark, I would climb Mount Everest" and "I love your son!" always makes me smile. Lionel's surprising move of capturing Clark to protect him was a major twist, and really altered his relationship with Clark. Patricia Swann was a GREAT guest star, too, by the way. I was really sad that she was killed off so quickly. Lex was absolutely ruthless in doing what he did there. Jerk. Still, I give this episode 9 out of 10 kryptonite-lined cages for being just plain awesome.
RightWingConspirator
04-24-2011, 10:13 PM
I gave it a 9. Just wished Clark had more scenes.
Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, do you even know what you are doing? And Lionel had Patricia killed. How can he not see what he is. Yeah, I'm ready for Lex to off him.
Sure is fun to read these posts years after they were written, but before major reveals (in this case, the reveal that Lex, not Lionel, has Patricia killed).
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I watched the rerun a couple days ago. It was great with fine performances including those by Michael Rosenbaum and Laura Vandervoort. So since then Smallville's "management" lost the services of Michael Rosenbaum and compounded that with a foolish decision to drop Laura Vandervoort.
Given that, I don't expect to see season 8.
Heh heh heh
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