most annoying aspect of hero!

[blackcelebration]

What annoyed you the most about hero?

[Jaderoyale]

What was most annoying for me isn't on this poll;
The fact that there was no Clark/Chloe/Pete scene, together. Thats what i wanted.

[boywithbluehanger]

I didn't like TW's acting in reaction to Pete walking through the door. He wasn't shocked enough. Lana seemed to genuinely miss him more.

I think this poll could have been a little better since I can't even agree with the last one because it requires me to agree with all the above rather than just simply "Other"...

Pete never mentioned Jonathan's funeral! - The scene where Pete says something to the effect of "What would your father think?" implied that he was already aware of JK's death, why bother revisiting why Pete never showed up to the funeral that happened 2 years ago when Clark already made mention that he and Pete had been in (at least) limited contact since. And don't forget, Pete's intention was to never come back to Smallville after being brutally beaten near death...something I'm sure Clark easily remembers

Where's Martha? - Who expected to see Martha?!

Pete saying that he hates Lex although there's no reason for him too! - That's something to gripe about long before this episode ever aired. Pete's intuition of Lex potentially being led astray by Lionel's parenting and/or resources has always been a characteristic of his...it made for great continuity. And lets give credit where it's due...less than 2 years later, Lex clearly crossed the line with Arthur Curry. in Aqua.

Lana not telling Kara how bad Lex is! - It's TV. Although Lana didn't go into lecture-mode with Kara about everything Lex has done in the past, she tried to initiate a conversation with Kara warning her about Lex but Kara changed the subject onto "truth and lies" rather than truly hearing everything Lana had to say.

Lionel hiding Kara's bracelet for no real reason! - Do we know it was for no reason? I tend to think you're making that assumption.

Lana & Lionel telling Clark not to tell Kara the truth! - Between fighting off Bizarro, stopping Black Canary from siding with Lex, uncovering Brainiac's next plot, dealing with a shaky-ground relationship with Lana, and now soon discovering Lionel has not been entirely truthful about his knowledge of Clark's arrival, these last few days have been trying on ol' Clark. So much that he only gets very little time to prevent his amnesiac cousin from allying with Lex.

Lana and Lionel are obviously aware of most of these things and understand that Clark doesn't have the time to deal with explaining everything to Kara and redeveloping a trusting bond with her. So at this point the "What she doesn't know won't hurt her" approach is what they are all but forced to rely on.

Clark not going to Jor-El to help Kara I mean 'he froze me' WT@@**? - This episode wasn't to include Clark's interaction with Kara. In fact Hero was mainly about Pete's ruturn. The story's direction in this episode would make it ridiculous for Clark to go to the Fortress to "save" Kara.

Kryptonite inconsistancies! - When were kryptonite scenarios ever consistent?!

Pete chewed a glowing green gum & was never suspicious! - If you look at the scene you'll see that Pete wasn't looking at the gum, he was watching the band while he put it in his mouth.

All the above plus something else I will discuss here! - None of the above. ^Discussed.

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There were no Clark - Kara interaction whatsoever.

[Hopefulsuicide]

- boy with blue hangar -

first of all, when was 'it's TV' and 'when was kryptonite ever consistnet' vaild arguements in a debate?

if you want to argue your points then do so, but make sure they arent a moot point first

second of all, kryptonite inconsistities are annoying. they never stop being annoying.

And Pete was in a dark room and the gum was glowing... you would have noticed... and if not dont you think the river of kryptonite under the boxes would have glowed too...

Martha not even being mentioned is annoying... i mean Clark says 'since my dad died lionel has done alot for me and my mum' but nothing is said about where the hell he is

john's funeral - well i did accept that finally we had a reason for Pete not showing his face all this time or even calling, but he could have just said something like 'i'm sorry i couldnt come to the funeral, man'... i mean he knew about the death cause he wasnt shocked when clark mentioned it. god Clark must have been so hurt, he would have called Pete to tell him bout the death and invite him to the funeral and then Pete must have declined. that would sting

pete hating lex - its been a theme all the way through, and while it turns out he is right, it has always always been annoying. maybe not so much in this episode, but his reasons for not liking lex in early season were petty jelousy and hating his dad

lana not telling kara how bad lex is - well it annoyed me, not cause i thought she 'should' have told her, but because it was implausible that she didn't. all that rage that Lana has for lex, and she can see Kara getting attached just like she was... that emotion would not have stayed so controlled. if that were me have spat the whole truth out with venom

lionel hiding kara's bracelet - well it does seem like it was for no real reason, because clark wanting it hidden anyway, so why not just tell clark and say it was hidden safe

not telling kara - well it's kinda ridiculous... its logical to think she is in more danger not knowing at this point, with lex gaining her trust so much... it's just silly and if she isnt angry about it when she finds out i'd be surprised

Only one i dont agree with is Clark going back to the FOS - i thought that was a vaild reason, why the hell would you trust someone who'd done that to you, let alone expect to get help, let alone be brave enough to go back... being trapped like that must have been pretty scary for clark

[Mars Investigations]

Pete has always hated Lex. Partly out of jealousy of his friendship with Clark, partly out of anger at the Luthors.

Lana didn't tell Kara all the bad things about Lex because it would have been pointless. It wouldn't have changed Kara's mind in any way because she already didn't trust Lana, and is suspicious of her true intentions. So it would have extended an adequate scene and wasted screen time for no good reason.

I was under the impression that Pete knew the effects of the gum at the OneRepublic concert. If not, then who cares? Having him see the green of the gum would have ruined the premise of the episode (although that might not have been such a bad thing). Also, the green glow might have just been to tell the audience that it was laced with kryptonite - it probably wasn't literally glowing like that.

Martha and Jonathan are out of the show. Chances are, they won't be brought up except for a few throw-away lines, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. Also, this episode would have been pretty boring if Clark and Pete spent all their time together dwelling on events of the past; we can fill in Pete's reaction to Jonathan's death with our imagination, but the interesting stuff is how Pete feels about the changes that have been made in the present.

Lionel obviously had a reason for hiding Kara's bracelet. If you don't think he did, then you obviously haven't seen the trailer for "Veritas".

As I pointed out in another thread, Clark has a major decision to make: tell Kara and risk her running off to Lex, or don't tell her. He probably didn't think about the possibility of her running off to Lex anyway, but he did what he did - he's not perfect, and you've got to expect him to make mistakes. He's not Superman yet.

[Twitch]

What was most annoying for me isn't on this poll;
The fact that there was no Clark/Chloe/Pete scene, together. Thats what i wanted.
Same here, I wanted more of a reunion.

[boywithbluehanger]

- boy with blue hangar -

first of all, when was 'it's TV' and 'when was kryptonite ever consistnet' vaild arguements in a debate?

I actually posted a lot more after my "It's TV." comment in that paragraph but thanks for singling it out to try and make your point! :rolleyes:




if you want to argue your points then do so, but make sure they arent a moot point first

I am not entitled to follow any of your requirements for any arguments or "points" I make. If you choose to create your own forum and I just so happen to be bored enough to join, I will try to abide by your rules. ;)


second of all, kryptonite inconsistities are annoying. they never stop being annoying.

That's your opinion - that I obviously disagree with. People are allowed to do that, you know...
My response "When was kryptonite ever consistent?" was basically a stab at how that is an issue that is often revisited on the show so much that instead of it being "annoying", IMO should now just be expected.


And Pete was in a dark room and the gum was glowing... you would have noticed... and if not dont you think the river of kryptonite under the boxes would have glowed too...


The comment "Pete chewed a glowing green gum & was never suspicious!" in the poll seems to be referring to the gum glowing NOT the overly glowing of the room the gum boxes were in. But then again, that's your interpretation.



Good day!

[svtwamedfan05]

Pete never mentioned Jonathan's funeral!
Lana not telling Kara how bad Lex is!
Lana & Lionel telling Clark not to tell Kara the truth!
Clark not going to Jor-El to help Kara I mean 'he froze me' WT@@**?

[6-Super-Man -5]

Lana not telling Kara how bad Lex is, Shame on you Lana...

[hanna1804]

Pete's line to Chloe at the DP at the end "It's kryptonite free". He said it in front of Jimmy like that, and Jimmy smiling at his line as if he understood the word "kryptonite"...

I mean it would have been more appropriate for Pete not to use the word "kryptonite" or more for Jimmy to ask after Pete left "Krypto-what ??!!"...

[Sarah J]

Lanna and Lionel telling Clark to lie to Kara

Lanna expecialy, wasn't she the one who all throught out season 5 and 6 was yelling and begging Clark to tell her his seceret???? That she was the one who went on and on and on about how Clark didn't trust her and Clark lied to her?? Now she want's Clark to lie to his own cousin!! I'm sorry but she's a fricking hyprocrite!

[sari_chem]

I don't think we should blame Lana for not going into extensive detail about Lex. This is how Smallville works. What about all the times both Chloe and Clark could have told Lana exactly what Lex was up to before she married him? They kept her in the dark for a very long time. I don't think we should blame Lana for not giving full disclosure, without at least, holding it against Chloe and Clark as well.

[jazel]

Clark hiding Kara's bracelet.....apparently he learned NOTHING, in Blue. Even "freezing" him, served no purpose, except to keep him away from the FOS.:lol:

[borednow]

That I watched a 45 minute long stride commercial... that had stride commercial breaks... seriously...

[clarkbunny]

That I watched a 45 minute long stride commercial... that had stride commercial breaks... seriously...

Ha ha ha ha :lol:

If anything, I would say Clark listening to Lana and Lionel instead of going with his gut instinct to tell Kara the truth. You can almost see where this is heading - another of Clark's poor decisions that will have 'consequences' LOL!

[LoveHurts38]

Lana blank stare and not saying anything.

[ClarkyBoy14]

The characters don't see the glowing or hear the shimmering. It's just to help the audience. That's not a point of annoyance.

[borednow]

Ha ha ha ha :lol:

If anything, I would say Clark listening to Lana and Lionel instead of going with his gut instinct to tell Kara the truth. You can almost see where this is heading - another of Clark's poor decisions that will have 'consequences' LOL!

It's not like Clark knew she was getting friendly with Lex, it's not like Lionel told him or... oh wait.

But when someone is getting close to Lex it's not like he uses other people's dishonesty to get closer to... oh wait.

But it's not like Clark has ever seen this happen before I mean with Lana it was... oh wait.

Seriously... Head slapping stupid all around. I expect this type of Goldfish memory from Clark but what's Lana's excuse? I mean she was the one who got duped last time? Dose she not remember the technique? :eek: "Let's see when I was angry with Clark because I thought he was keeping something from me, Lex lured me in by promising honesty and pointing out how Clark had done the same thing to him. Naw he wouldn't try that completely successful technique a second time now would he? I mean why use what has worked in the past?"

P.S. What the hell is up with Lionel? He was hiding the bracelet and I know he's not that dumb.

[DreadShamus]

Pete has never like Lex. He also has plenty of reasons to hate him. He has always know Lex can't be trusted, and is just as bad as Lionel. The Luthors have continually ruined his family's lives.

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That I watched a 45 minute long stride commercial... that had stride commercial breaks... seriously...
LOL It didn't bother me as much as most people, but it was pretty ridiculous.

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Everyone seems to have forgotten Grant's murder. Lex has finally shown that he is truly limitless in his depths of evil by killing his cloned baby brother. Just because Clark entered his mind and found 'some good' inside doesn't explain why Clark/no one sees that murder as the main reason to keep Kara away from his influence.

Lois seems to be the only one who sees this, but she was left out of the episode.

[Yasise]

Pete has always hated Lex. Partly out of jealousy of his friendship with Clark, partly out of anger at the Luthors.

Lana didn't tell Kara all the bad things about Lex because it would have been pointless. It wouldn't have changed Kara's mind in any way because she already didn't trust Lana, and is suspicious of her true intentions. So it would have extended an adequate scene and wasted screen time for no good reason.

I was under the impression that Pete knew the effects of the gum at the OneRepublic concert. If not, then who cares? Having him see the green of the gum would have ruined the premise of the episode (although that might not have been such a bad thing). Also, the green glow might have just been to tell the audience that it was laced with kryptonite - it probably wasn't literally glowing like that.

Martha and Jonathan are out of the show. Chances are, they won't be brought up except for a few throw-away lines, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. Also, this episode would have been pretty boring if Clark and Pete spent all their time together dwelling on events of the past; we can fill in Pete's reaction to Jonathan's death with our imagination, but the interesting stuff is how Pete feels about the changes that have been made in the present.

Lionel obviously had a reason for hiding Kara's bracelet. If you don't think he did, then you obviously haven't seen the trailer for "Veritas".

As I pointed out in another thread, Clark has a major decision to make: tell Kara and risk her running off to Lex, or don't tell her. He probably didn't think about the possibility of her running off to Lex anyway, but he did what he did - he's not perfect, and you've got to expect him to make mistakes. He's not Superman yet.

I agree with almost everything you said, but I think it would be nice, if Clark sometimes mentions his mother, or call her on the phone or something like that. I mean, his mother isn't dead, she's in Washington, isn't she? It's really odd, that Clark seemingly has no contact with her, he never talks about her or with her on the phone, like Lionel did e.g. in "Phantom".
And Clark used to have a very good realtionship with his mom.

So, when of course not in "Hero", I think, there should be something like a phone call at least in future episode.

[mickeymousetoo]

For me, the most annoying part of 'Hero' was near the end. Chloe saying her goodbyes to Pete, referred to a light year as TIME. Anyone with half a brain should know that a light year is a DISTANCE. This is a terrible error from otherwise excellent writers

[Hopefulsuicide]

I actually posted a lot more after my "It's TV." comment in that paragraph but thanks for singling it out to try and make your point! :rolleyes:





I am not entitled to follow any of your requirements for any arguments or "points" I make. If you choose to create your own forum and I just so happen to be bored enough to join, I will try to abide by your rules. ;)



That's your opinion - that I obviously disagree with. People are allowed to do that, you know...
My response "When was kryptonite ever consistent?" was basically a stab at how that is an issue that is often revisited on the show so much that instead of it being "annoying", IMO should now just be expected.




The comment "Pete chewed a glowing green gum & was never suspicious!" in the poll seems to be referring to the gum glowing NOT the overly glowing of the room the gum boxes were in. But then again, that's your interpretation.



Good day!

hehe, i love a good debate :p

[boywithbluehanger]

hehe, i love a good debate :p

Maybe next time we can have a debate regarding what is supposed to be seen by the characters of the show vs what is actually seen from the viewers' point of view!! (oh joy...) :D

[Drew]

I didn't really have a problem with any of the things listed, but what annoyed me the most about this episode was that it was practically an hour long advertisement for Stride Gum.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Pete's line to Chloe at the DP at the end "It's kryptonite free". He said it in front of Jimmy like that, and Jimmy smiling at his line as if he understood the word "kryptonite"...

I mean it would have been more appropriate for Pete not to use the word "kryptonite" or more for Jimmy to ask after Pete left "Krypto-what ??!!"...
Oh yeah, this bugged me big time too. Hello, Jimmy does not know what Kryptonite is, in fact most of the world doesn't so just go ahead and say it out loud, in a room full of reporters, Pete! Idiot! (but then this seems to happen a lot at the DP. Honestly, all these reporters need to do is eavesdrop a little more and they would have the story of the century!)

The other thing that bugged me? When exactly did Pete become a super computer genius able to upload the whole DP system with a virus? That a Chloe type thing, isn't it? Not Pete.

[Doomsday44]

All the Stride ads and references to it. Way over done!