Lex's family shield

[xrayvision]

I think one thing that was extremely interesting in this episode was how Lex's family shield (coat of arms) had that star formation that happened to match the formation on the day of the 1st meteor shower. I'm not sure if this is a retcon or if that star formation part of the coat of arms was there all along.

But this proves something that I think has been long in the asking--who foretold the Naman-Sageeth prophecy and how did they know about Clark & Lex? The star formation unquestionably links Lex to being Sageeth.

I seriously think that they need to have an episode that goes back 500 years on Krypton and shows Clark's ancestor who foretold the prophecy. They should make this ancestor be Kem-El, since he is from the comics canon. I think they need to show that Kem-El knew the future events and how he's the one who got all the future House of El projects associated with Earth started.

I would make an episode dedicated to this. Show clips of his journey to Earth (before the portals were built) and his interaction with the Kawatche. They should also show Kem-El tracking Lex's (Sageeth's) ancestor in the Scottish Highlands and either tying or branding the star formation of the 1st meteor shower to the Luthor coat of arms as an explanation of why the coat of arms has that formation.

I wrote a fanfic about this, and think something like it would be incredible. In my fanfic, Kem-El created a device that could display future events and noticed that Krypton was destroyed within 500 years. He looked into the events and saw how Clark was sent off to Earth and then looked into Clark's future and saw how Lex tied in with it. He dissembled the device and used its parts to build the Eradicator and dedicated the rest of his days on parallel plans to prevent Krypton's explosion and if that fails on a mechanism to get Kryptonians off the planet.

Here is a link to it for any who are interested:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76369

I still think that doing something like this as a seperate project (like a movie) over the summer would be the best way to go since they could have a seperate budget specifically for the movie. I would love to see the origin of the caves, the legend, and Lex's coat of arms regardless. But I think they should do a 500 year flashback to whoever the Kryptonian was who foretold the legend and was the first on Earth to visit the Kawatche.

[litew8]

Unless you heard specifically that it is their family crest, I don't think that it is. I think that was the soldier that Lex painted when he was a kid. When his father was working with V. Swann to create a supersoldier for the Veritas group. Lex being around his father, probably seen the group's Logo and painted it on a toy soldier - not quite remembering what it was all about, Lex kept the toy soldier - or made a replicant and is now trying to link it to the alien invasion and his father.

Here's what I wrote up (briefly) about the Veritas Logo
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86543


I think for the most part, the caves are full of crap. Stories and all.

[MozartRequiem]

Whoa, xrayvision,

Your interpretations and creative ideas never cease to amaze me. :) I look forward to reading this fic! I can't wait to read it because you always put such forethought and attention to detail in your ideas about "Smallville".

Now, about that crest, my first intepretation was that it was just a symbolic character moment. Lex was looking at that little toy warrior from his childhood (that we saw in "Fracture"), but then the crest was there, over his shoulder, overpowering, symbolic of how his lineage of evil is always lurking over his shadow, no matter how hard he tries to recapture his youth.

And then at the end, he's put the toy away and is fully facing his Luthor name.

But then someone suggested he was looking at the symbol for Veritas. I wasn't sure: was this on the toy as well?

So, either way, I think my symbolic interpretation COULD be right, but I'm not sure. It's interesting though, if he's looking into the Veritas symbol or if it has something to do with the legend on the cave wall, like you said.

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And litew8, good theory too! So the V WAS on the soldier? Hmmm.

[litew8]

Yes, it is more than just a V.
V stands for Veritas (Virgil Swann's group).
Lex & Lionel have obtained V. Swann's information (we've seen).
Those are stars next to the V, which represent a constellation.
Which indicates where the PLANET Krypton WAS in space -
where Jor-El sent the S.O.S. that V. Swann picked up on.
He told Clark about W5 in "Rosetta".

Which is why Lex's asistant made reference to "constellation" and almost
showed us statistics. She said that the constellation formation appeard (as on the Logo)
back in the late 80's, but after the first meteor shower, it changed. Which means
one of the stars have dissapeared - which means Krypton blew up.

Perhaps Lex doesn't have all of the knowledge that V. Swann had,
and is now making the connection between the Logo he painted as a kid,
and information he's obtained from Swann. All related to Lex's suspicions that
there's an eminent threat from an alien invasion, and that his father has always known more
than he's letting on.

[Dor el]

Thanks, I didn't hear her say that the constellation changed after the first MS. I believe Lex did mention that the shield in the window is the Luthor family crest. I never noticed the crest in the window before. Will have to go back and check some old scenes. If the crest appeared earlier than this season, I will owe AL/Miles somewhat of an apology. I assumed that they were "just wingin' it" from season to season and not really planning the entire SV world. I believe the remainder of the season holds great promise. I like how the writers are pulling a lot of old stuff together. Finally. Maybe they spent the strike time watching old episodes. :)

[litew8]

There are two things in the window pane.
It was pointed out in another thread a while back.

One is the letter L (for Luthor).
It has been a part of the window for ever.

The other one is the V Logo.
It hasn't been there through the series.
They just put it there recently, like a couple of episodes ago.

If he said it is the family crest to the lady, I think he's lying to her.
It could be Lex just added it to his window, because he recently aquired
Virgil Swanns information on the project. Now Lex is the owner of the project,
and all of the information.

[xrayvision]

I thought I saw the star formations on the crest in the window pane too.

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By the way litew8, that's some nice stuff you put together. Though, how do you know that Lionel & Virgil Swann worked together? Is it from one of those side projects (Justice & Doom)? It drives me crazy how they do those things and never make a mention about it in the show, even when it has major implications to the plot.

[litew8]

I thought I saw the star formations on the crest in the window pane too.

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By the way litew8, that's some nice stuff you put together. Though, how do you know that Lionel & Virgil Swann worked together? Is it from one of those side projects (Justice & Doom)? It drives me crazy how they do those things and never make a mention about it in the show, even when it has major implications to the plot.Thanks xrayvision. Yes from the Justice & Doom. Someone posted a thread a while ago in the Spoiler section which rehashed some of the information that's been floating around on the internet for a long while now. I don't think there's anything that would ruin Smallville for you if you read it. Here is a link - http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86166&highlight=Veritas+Symbol

The thread kind of fizzled out when I started taking it in a different direction though. People were becoming upset. Read the above link and you will get filled in on everything related. You'll see how I came to my own conclusion and why I posted what I did about DECODING the Veritas Logo.