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UpandAtom
03-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Lex's assistant at the end gave the date of the first smallville meteor shower as October 7, 1989. This is the first time that an actual date has been mentioned on the show. The only problem is that it contradicts several "Expanded Universe" sources (i.e. The Smallville Ledger, The Chloe Chronicles, comics, Oliver Queen Chronicles, etc.) that state that the first meteor shower was October 16, 1989. There is really no way to reconcile these two dates. So I guess this means that all these other sources are non-canon.

GrimmReeper
03-13-2008, 10:18 PM
your right there isnt...

ClarksGal
03-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Good point. It's too bad they don't have someone over there keeping a list of all the important dates, names and events so they can just easily refer back to them. Oh well.

Regardless of the date, I'm interested in where the story is going!!!

bolo
03-13-2008, 10:41 PM
Its Obvious Where Its Going! ! Lex Is Going To See That In That Other Picture A Two Spaceships Heading For Earth.. Wasnt Kara Sent To Earth Like A Little After Clark But She Went Into Animation Or Whatever

minerva73
03-13-2008, 10:47 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I remember seeing that on the Chloe Chronicles. I guess that they're expecting Smallville fans not to have watched that on the DVD. Like I bet that they'll twist some of the stuff that happens in "Veritas" that was mentioned in Justice and Doom. But I guess they have a good reason...kinda. :\

SparkleforSmallville
03-14-2008, 12:07 AM
The date discrepency doesn't bother me, I'm wondering what she was going to say next!

ClareKent
03-14-2008, 08:56 AM
I think probably she was gonna say that the next time all these stars will be together, it's gonna be in a few weeks :D

RedKalEL
03-14-2008, 09:28 AM
what was the date they said in the pilot jsut october 89 right?

neo0721
03-14-2008, 01:09 PM
oct 7 and oct 16 what if the stars align first and then a little more than a week later the meteor shower hit? it could be that she might be thinking something else is coming maybe someone or thing called "veritas" that is coming back for clark

BIGBLUE10789
03-14-2008, 01:16 PM
I also remember them saying the meteor shower was the 16th but the stars aligning i think was the 7th. some kind of coincidence too since that is my birthday, october 7 1989. My sister and i were watching that and when we heard that i was like whoah! anyone elses birthday this date?

Kal el of krypton
03-14-2008, 01:25 PM
i thought it was in 1986 lol i might be confused with lois and clark adventures of superman i think that one was in 1960s or something lol. i need to check season 1 again, could of swear it was 1986 and not '89

JLedge
03-14-2008, 10:38 PM
What REALLY bugs me about the mention of the meteor shower, is that lady said the last time one of those stars was seen (which I'm assuming is Krypton) in the constellation was the day of the meteor shower.

How is it possible that Krypton exploded on the same day the meteor shower happened when it's LIGHT YEARS away from earth????

I mean, Clark was an infant when he was put in the ship, and he's a little boy when he lands.

Please correct me if I'm incorrectly remembering what she said. I was going to check my tape I was typing this, but I loaned it to a friend.

If I am remember correctly, that's HUGE continuity error.

litew8
03-15-2008, 02:46 AM
What REALLY bugs me about the mention of the meteor shower, is that lady said the last time one of those stars was seen (which I'm assuming is Krypton) in the constellation was the day of the meteor shower.

How is it possible that Krypton exploded on the same day the meteor shower happened when it's LIGHT YEARS away from earth????

I mean, Clark was an infant when he was put in the ship, and he's a little boy when he lands.

Please correct me if I'm incorrectly remembering what she said. I was going to check my tape I was typing this, but I loaned it to a friend.

If I am remember correctly, that's HUGE continuity error.I think you are right. I think it took 3 years for Clark to reach earth. That, and the fact that Clark was somehow a part of an asteroid. They shouldn't have put Clark inside of the asteroid. Then they'd have been able to say Jor-El sent him into space years before Krypton exploded. But since they put Clark inside of Kryptonite asteroids, it makes it impossible to work around. That and the fact that you alluded to - it takes possibly HUNDREDS of years before you see a star's light go out if it explodes or whatnot. Perhaps Krypton EXPLODED hundreds of years ago - but Clark and the asteroids went though a worm hole or something. The star vanishing and Clark's arival (meteor shower) were a coincidence.

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As for the lady scientist that talks to Lex, here's my take -


Here's part 1 of 2 of what I think the coat of arms (or Logo) represents
(look at the pictures in the first post, then my comments are on the following pages)
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86166&highlight=Veritas+Symbol

... and this is a continuation (part 2 of 2) of what I think (my own graphics)-
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86543

Kal el of krypton
03-15-2008, 03:13 AM
What REALLY bugs me about the mention of the meteor shower, is that lady said the last time one of those stars was seen (which I'm assuming is Krypton) in the constellation was the day of the meteor shower.

How is it possible that Krypton exploded on the same day the meteor shower happened when it's LIGHT YEARS away from earth????

I mean, Clark was an infant when he was put in the ship, and he's a little boy when he lands.

Please correct me if I'm incorrectly remembering what she said. I was going to check my tape I was typing this, but I loaned it to a friend.

If I am remember correctly, that's HUGE continuity error.


Maybe you got it incorrect and she wasn't talking about krypton therefore krypton wasn't destroyed as the meteor shower happened therefore theres no continuity error lol. I'm going to watch it again soon and find out what she meant by it when she said the last time she saw it.

98chase
03-15-2008, 10:04 AM
I think you are right. I think it took 3 years for Clark to reach earth. That, and the fact that Clark was somehow a part of an asteroid. They shouldn't have put Clark inside of the asteroid. Then they'd have been able to say Jor-El sent him into space years before Krypton exploded. But since they put Clark inside of Kryptonite asteroids, it makes it impossible to work around. That and the fact that you alluded to - it takes possibly HUNDREDS of years before you see a star's light go out if it explodes or whatnot. Perhaps Krypton EXPLODED hundreds of years ago - but Clark and the asteroids went though a worm hole or something. The star vanishing and Clark's arival (meteor shower) were a coincidence.

- - - - - - - - - -
As for the lady scientist that talks to Lex, here's my take -


Here's part 1 of 2 of what I think the coat of arms (or Logo) represents
(look at the pictures in the first post, then my comments are on the following pages)
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86166&highlight=Veritas+Symbol

... and this is a continuation (part 2 of 2) of what I think (my own graphics)-
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86543
This is just me being finicky, but it takes hundreds of years to see a star go out if the star is hundreds of light years away. If a star is 23 light years away, it takes 23 years to see the light emitted. I didn't know about the whole "asteroid" thing. I just assumed that the ship had the ability to move faster than the speed of light, which is why Clark could travel that vast difference in ~3years.

Kal el of krypton
03-15-2008, 11:48 AM
This is just me being finicky, but it takes hundreds of years to see a star go out if the star is hundreds of light years away. If a star is 23 light years away, it takes 23 years to see the light emitted. I didn't know about the whole "asteroid" thing. I just assumed that the ship had the ability to move faster than the speed of light, which is why Clark could travel that vast difference in ~3years.


i was going to say the exact same thing about the stars light traveling to earth thats why it may seem that the planet disappeared in 89 or whenever when it really must of disappeared years ago. :)

litew8
03-15-2008, 11:57 AM
This is just me being finicky, but it takes hundreds of years to see a star go out if the star is hundreds of light years away. If a star is 23 light years away, it takes 23 years to see the light emitted.Nothing finicky about being logical. I might be mistaken, but I think Virgil Swann said (in "Rosetta") that he spent the last 13 years (or something) trying to track down Jor-El's S.O.S. - the stars that are mentioned surrounding where Krypton use to be are 10-15 light years away. So perhaps it might make some sense, or close. Not sure.

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I didn't know about the whole "asteroid" thing. I just assumed that the ship had the ability to move faster than the speed of light, which is why Clark could travel that vast difference in ~3years.Maybe I'm wrong - but I always thought that Clark's ship was actually inside of an asteroid - maybe it just appeared that way in the pilot. But he did arive with the first meteor shower - he arrived with the Kryptonite asteroids - which were pieces of the planet Krypton.

smallvilleusedtobegood
03-15-2008, 12:02 PM
The writers obviously don't even watch their own episodes. The date of the first meteor shower was October 16, 1989, not October 7. It disgusts me how they can't even take 5 seconds to check. They're obviously getting paid way too much for the kind of sh*tty work they do.

litew8
03-15-2008, 12:07 PM
The writers obviously don't even watch their own episodes. The date of the first meteor shower was October 16, 1989, not October 7. It disgusts me how they can't even take 5 seconds to check. They're obviously getting paid way too much for the kind of sh*tty work they do.Maybe they meant something else. Maybe they were referring to when the star constellation changed - a week and two days before the meteor shower. Unless you are right, they are all just a bunch of useless tools.