View Full Version : Will these people ever learn? No Secrets and Lies!!!
Minela
03-13-2008, 07:09 PM
OMG! Shouldn't they have learned by now that secrets and lies always turn out really really bad in Smallville.
"Hey Kara, you are an alien from Krypton. What? You don't believe me? Well I'm from Krypton, too. Check out my powers. Allright, now that you believe me, I gotta tell you to stay away from Lex. Don't worry, we'll figure out this little amnesia thing."
ginnyfan
03-13-2008, 07:12 PM
^I wish you wrote for Smallville.
Minela
03-13-2008, 07:13 PM
Me, too.
Alexander III
03-13-2008, 07:14 PM
Me 3!
Twitch
03-13-2008, 07:16 PM
Me four!
So simple yet so complicated. :lol:
Sarah J
03-13-2008, 07:25 PM
Shelby never lies!!!!:rotfl::rotfl:
I loved that one
but I agree you should write for Smallville
clana4everfan2
03-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Me Five! haha :) They never learn it's Smallville and it looks like Lexana may be happening all over again with but with Kara. Come on let's be more original we were already tortured last season.. hehe And yes Shelby never lies except when he decides to steal food from the table.. and Jonathan and Martha catch him. haha.
theotherJane
03-13-2008, 07:30 PM
Um, hello? Secrets and lies have always been a part of the Superman mythos. That's not going away anytime soon.
Kevin24
03-13-2008, 07:30 PM
Yeah I don't know why they told clark not to tell her the truth. Their reason was that she wouldn't believe him? My first thought was well just show her your powers and she will believe!
Minela
03-13-2008, 07:33 PM
Um, hello? Secrets and lies have always been a part of the Superman mythos. That's not going away anytime soon.
That is ture, but never on such a big and overused level than in this show. This whole Kara-Lex relationship just seems like a bizzaro version of Lexana. Don't get me wrong, I loved Lexana, but only because I trully believed Lex loved her and he needed somebody in his life who loved him and would be there for him. With Kara I know he is just plain using her and I know exactly what the poor girl is stepping into.
minerva73
03-13-2008, 07:35 PM
If they told her, who's to say that she wouldn't have told Lex? She trusted Lex before she met Clark and Lana at the farm. Maybe she believed that Lex was good and she could tell him that she knows who she is because Clark told her.
RedKRules
03-13-2008, 08:09 PM
This show has always been played that way .... secrets and lies, since the beginning, I am not really optimistic if it is going to change ....
theotherJane
03-13-2008, 08:10 PM
That is ture, but never on such a big and overused level than in this show. This whole Kara-Lex relationship just seems like a bizzaro version of Lexana. Don't get me wrong, I loved Lexana, but only because I trully believed Lex loved her and he needed somebody in his life who loved him and would be there for him. With Kara I know he is just plain using her and I know exactly what the poor girl is stepping into.
I do agree that it's becoming a bit repetitive with every woman in Clark's life going to Lex for comfort. Been down that road before.
4CHLicks
03-13-2008, 10:48 PM
I think it's great Kara's in Lex's mansion now. Because we all know Kara's probably getting her memory back next week and, then, Clark'll have a plant (Sleeper)/spy in the Luthor mansion. What was it that Jonothan said about Martha working for their enemy, the MB, Lionel during S2's Insurgence? Clark and Kara would be taking something from the "Luthor Playbook." :D
sherban1988
03-14-2008, 01:14 AM
Agree... I would like to know what the hell goes on through their little itsy-bitsy brains?
"Hmm... so.. Kara is spendin time with Lex, trusts Lex, doesn't know about her powers so tehnically she could pull a door of its hinges in front of Lex, she wants to know about her past, she knows it's connected to the symbols, Lex is obsessed about the symbols.. yep, we definetly should lie to her, tell her we don't know squat about the symbols and drive her away to Lex"
highdro_pharmer
03-14-2008, 02:18 AM
What was it that Jonothan said about Martha working for their enemy, the MB, Lionel during S2's Insurgence? Clark and Kara would be taking something from the "Luthor Playbook." :D
Haha, nice recall. The best scenes in the early seasons of Smallville were the family meetings between the Kents, with Jonathan quarterbacking the family strategy whenever Clark came home with a boo-boo. It would be cool if Kara and Clark eventually developed that type of family bond and unity.
With Kara's amnesia, the Lex-Kara relationship seems to have reverted back to what it was at the beginning of Season 7 when Kara saved Lex's life and he thought she was an angel. It has a very similar dynamic to Lex and Clark's friendship at the very beginning of the series, when Lex would give Clark free Radiohead tickets and a limo ride if he would "ask Lana out in the next minute." Part of it is the difference in their respective personalities. Kara arrived care-free and bold with her powers while Clark spent the first few seasons denying his heritage and alienating himself from his closest friends with lies and aversion. Both Kara and Clark were symbolic for Lex, a tortured soul, looking for a saviour.
That's part of what makes Lex's character so intriguing for me. I just get the sense that had Clark been truthful and come clean about his powers, not only would Clark have been Lex's saviour both literally and symbolically, but Lex would've quit being so obsessive, and would've done everything in his power to protect Clark from Lionel, much the same protective brotherly affection he had for Julian (and we all know how that turned out). A guy can only go over the edge of a cliff so many times before he can't be pulled back anymore.
Maybe I'm being ridiculously idealistic, but I don't believe that Lex has an agenda with Kara. I think he is still trying to find that one relationship that will be his salvation even as he is "falling," to use the analogy of the human condition. Everything he did to Lana he did out of a fear of losing her love once again to Clark. He is desperately soul-searching, on a quest to find some sort of redeeming quality in humanity. His lack of faith in humanity manifests in the atrocities i.e. Level 33.1 - for him these are justifiable human casualties in the name of national defence (sounds familiar).
Lex would like nothing more than to use Kara's amnesia as a chance to start fresh with someone who is currently unaware of his previous sins. Kara is an angelic icon, full of love and trust and that maternal warmth - that Oedipal desire that Lex has for his mother. As Lionel once said: "Lex always goes out with women that remind him of Lillian (his mother)"
Of course, Clark will spend the entire time trying to convince Kara that he's the devil incarnate, completely oblivious to the role that he himself is playing: the very same role that Jonathan played at the start of the series when he warned Clark to stay away from the Luthors. Despite the good that Clark saw in Lex, Jonathan warns that Lex is a product of his upbringing. And so, the son becomes the father, in both cases.
LoveHurts38
03-14-2008, 07:51 AM
Shelby never lies....and it is Smallville.
Krypton935
03-14-2008, 08:23 AM
Shelby NEVER lies! and they will never learn it just is completely impossible
Yasise
03-14-2008, 08:58 AM
OMG! Shouldn't they have learned by now that secrets and lies always turn out really really bad in Smallville.
"Hey Kara, you are an alien from Krypton. What? You don't believe me? Well I'm from Krypton, too. Check out my powers. Allright, now that you believe me, I gotta tell you to stay away from Lex. Don't worry, we'll figure out this little amnesia thing."
Yeah, I guess, that would have been too easy and we wouldnt' be curious about the next week's episode???
Well, I was curious about "Hero" concerning the not happened talk between the two cousins, Clark and Kara, about the whole Detroit story, but they chose to not have such a scene at all.
.......................That's part of what makes Lex's character so intriguing for me. I just get the sense that had Clark been truthful and come clean about his powers, not only would Clark have been Lex's saviour both literally and symbolically, but Lex would've quit being so obsessive, and would've done everything in his power to protect Clark from Lionel, much the same protective brotherly affection he had for Julian (and we all know how that turned out). A guy can only go over the edge of a cliff so many times before he can't be pulled back anymore.........
You know, I often wondered about that, too. What would have happened, when Clark would have told Lex from the beginning of their relationship about his powers etc.?
I'm sure that Lex would have been a loyal and trustworthy friend for Clark and he never would have become his biggest enemy. Lex would have found a peson, who trusted him, at last, and who he could have trusted, too.
DGirlLois4Clark
03-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Wherever Lana is Secrets and Lies is never too far away. Seriously..its draining my enjoyment of smallville.
Clark please grow up asap
BWOracle
03-14-2008, 11:27 AM
I don’t think we can blame Clark for not telling Kara the truth after Lana and Lionel convinced him it was a bad idea. I think Lana and Lionel were wrong but they double-teamed him on that one. I do agree it was dangerous while Kara has amnesia and trusts Lex so much.
MetroGirl06
03-14-2008, 03:03 PM
I HOPE they learn. But I doubt they will.
And the day they do learn is when their secrets and lies make the universe implode!
kentfamily
03-14-2008, 11:32 PM
I guess if there were no secrets and lies, it wouldnt be a soap opera type show.
kasealaine
03-14-2008, 11:36 PM
The fact is that if we wrote for this show, we'd be able to tie up the major plot points in one episode. They're just extending it over eight season.
The sad fact is that it would take another eight seasons to tie up all the minor plot holes.
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