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Nospam
02-14-2008, 09:40 PM
Thoughts?

Alexander III
02-14-2008, 09:54 PM
Why did Lex end up in Smallville Medical Centre after he was shot in Detroit? Pathetic doesn't it? Shouldn't he be landed in a hospital filled with the best doctors in the world?

svtwamedfan05
02-14-2008, 09:55 PM
What is up with "superhacker" Lana all of a sudden? That is so not cool that she is taking Chloe's job :mad:

Nospam
02-14-2008, 09:58 PM
Overall, I thought this was actually an excellent episode. Lex getting shot, again, this time in the forehead was a little much. As was the now de rigueur Kent toss to defeat the villain.

Who
02-14-2008, 10:12 PM
I'm not sure how Lex got shot in the forehead, then is found and brought to a hospital, yet they can't find Lois and Kara at the same crime scene. I think Lex would have died, however, without Chloe's powers. Lincoln was shot in the head and took a while to die.

Lexgirl33
02-14-2008, 10:18 PM
Lex should be dead :lol: other than that I liked it.

rissaroo689
02-14-2008, 10:28 PM
lexana. puke.

ClareKent
02-14-2008, 10:31 PM
The icky Lexana sex made a disturbing return. Do I need to say anymore? :(

Imzadia
02-15-2008, 12:02 AM
While watching this episode, I realized that I hardly had Any emotional response to the circumstances in this story. I was disappointed. It could be just that it's my own interpretation of this episode. At the beginning of 'Fracture', I felt like I'd just walked into a situation that was already well underway. That is how this story was presented, but I felt like I'd missed some very important information that was needed to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. It felt 'Flat' and too much like a rehash of another (or several) episode(s). I Hated the scenery inside Lex's mind. It reminded me too much of the damp and dank setting inside of Reeves Dam. Lex is very intelligent and creative, so I would think that his mind would be much more colorful, rather than endless, dark, colorless concrete halls that also resembled an old, abandoned building.

Also, it really bugged me out that Lex was 'airlifted' to Smallville Medical Center when there are better equipped hospitals in the much larger city of Detroit; not that I'm saying that small towns have inferior hospitals, only that the larger cities and the larger medical facilities often lure the best doctors and have larger budgets to afford offering them higher salaries as well as the best equipment. It just seems ridiculous to transport a critically injured patient to a less equipped, small town hospital.

It was the same situation in the season 6 episode "Rage" when Lois was injured by GA in Metropolis but treated for her wounds at Smallville Medical Center. It's probably saving production costs by Not having to build another hospital set. That's understandable, but when it happens it's so noticeable that it's blareingly illogical.

I'm sorry to say it, especially after being starved for new episodes, but IMHO, 'Fracture' ranks among season 7's weaker stories. And YES, I too noticed the "Veritas" reference.

Batman/Superman#1
02-15-2008, 12:06 AM
Lexana

What the Lana character is only good for, sex.

jazel
02-15-2008, 12:07 AM
most of it, except Lana kissing, an un-reciopricating CK....PLUS the "I'll always love you", whisper from Lana to Lex....:lol:

Hounshell
02-15-2008, 01:14 AM
The episode was over too quickly.

KEakaCK
02-15-2008, 01:20 AM
Well, how did Lex get transported from Detroit to Smallville so freakin fast? or why did he get transported to Smallville Memorial Hospital instead of a hospital in Detroit or if they wanted to make it closer to Lionel and Clark, Metropolis Memorial Hospital would of been a better choice.
How in the world is Lex able to track Kara? That made absolutely no sense, seeing she went from FOS to Detroit in Blue and never had any contact with anyone from Smallville.

6-Super-Man -5
02-15-2008, 01:29 AM
Superhacker, She is taking Chloe's job!

Krypto_marcus
02-15-2008, 02:03 AM
Great Episode, but why not a Clois scene?

GuardianAngel
02-15-2008, 02:28 AM
While watching this episode, I realized that I hardly had Any emotional response to the circumstances in this story. I was disappointed. It could be just that it's my own interpretation of this episode. At the beginning of 'Fracture', I felt like I'd just walked into a situation that was already well underway. That is how this story was presented, but I felt like I'd missed some very important information that was needed to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. It felt 'Flat' and too much like a rehash of another (or several) episode(s). I Hated the scenery inside Lex's mind. It reminded me too much of the damp and dank setting inside of Reeves Dam. Lex is very intelligent and creative, so I would think that his mind would be much more colorful, rather than endless, dark, colorless concrete halls that also resembled an old, abandoned building.

Also, it really bugged me out that Lex was 'airlifted' to Smallville Medical Center when there are better equipped hospitals in the much larger city of Detroit; not that I'm saying that small towns have inferior hospitals, only that the larger cities and the larger medical facilities often lure the best doctors and have larger budgets to afford offering them higher salaries as well as the best equipment. It just seems ridiculous to transport a critically injured patient to a less equipped, small town hospital.

It was the same situation in the season 6 episode "Rage" when Lois was injured by GA in Metropolis but treated for her wounds at Smallville Medical Center. It's probably saving production costs by Not having to build another hospital set. That's understandable, but when it happens it's so noticeable that it's blareingly illogical.

I'm sorry to say it, especially after being starved for new episodes, but IMHO, 'Fracture' ranks among season 7's weaker stories. And YES, I too noticed the "Veritas" reference.


I couldn't agree more. I found this episode rather disappointing. The Lexana scene was nauseating (I'm really feeling sorry for Clark, he seems to get major disappointments from Lana every week now) but I really didn't like the feeling between Lex and Kara.

On the good side, I found interesting how evil Lex was all in white and was adult Lex, whereas his good side was still a child. When Lex got split by black K in season 4, both his personalities looked the same. Now it's quite clear which personality is stronger and winning the battle.

haltoe
02-15-2008, 04:34 AM
I for one marvel at what Smallville writers are doing to ruin Kara. Her character was exciting as Supergirl but now she's just another stereotyped helpless female victim. The only good touch to this was her being called Linda, her secret identity in the comic books. That's a sign that maybe a Smallville writer read one of them but didn't understand the Superman family comics. That is, Kryptonians REGARDLESS OF GENDER have superpowers and either help good people or kick butt against the bad guys. That included Supergirl but these genius writers don't understand that.

Maybe it's just that in Hollywood if you have a choice between an entertaining plot or a typical Hollywood male chauvinist stereotype, Hollywood chooses the stereotype. So after a couple good episodes seeing Kara use her powers, Smallville's writers go to Hollywood's male chauvinist reflexes and ruin her. She now fits the Hollywood image that a female character has to be a helpless victim. It's stupid and boring.

It's really disgusting to see what should be an exciting and entertaining character ruined because she's subjected to Hollywood's inane and stupidly prejudiced assignment of roles, every female character to end up as a helpless victim.

blackcelebration
02-15-2008, 05:48 AM
I for one marvel at what Smallville writers are doing to ruin Kara. Her character was exciting as Supergirl but now she's just another stereotyped helpless female victim. The only good touch to this was her being called Linda, her secret identity in the comic books. That's a sign that maybe a Smallville writer read one of them but didn't understand the Superman family comics. That is, Kryptonians REGARDLESS OF GENDER have superpowers and either help good people or kick butt against the bad guys. That included Supergirl but these genius writers don't understand that.

Maybe it's just that in Hollywood if you have a choice between an entertaining plot or a typical Hollywood male chauvinist stereotype, Hollywood chooses the stereotype. So after a couple good episodes seeing Kara use her powers, Smallville's writers go to Hollywood's male chauvinist reflexes and ruin her. She now fits the Hollywood image that a female character has to be a helpless victim. It's stupid and boring.

It's really disgusting to see what should be an exciting and entertaining character ruined because she's subjected to Hollywood's inane and stupidly prejudiced assignment of roles, every female character to end up as a helpless victim.

Very true & why do they need to ship off each & every character e.g. Jimmy & Chloe, Clark & Lana, Lex & Lana, now Kara & Lex, Lois & Oliver, Lois & Gabriel:mad:

They have already ruined Lana's character beyond repair, Clark is becoming worser & worser per episode, Chloe is nearly redundant, Kara is not even Kara, Jor-El is becoming a ruthless arsehole sorry he is one, Lionel is see saw, Lex has been light switched & as for Lois... well she's starting to become nearly as hated as Lana:mad:

Why can't they concentrate more on mythos than soap opera crap:mad::\:(

Cromartiefan
02-15-2008, 06:36 AM
- Sexana. Eww
- Super-Hacker Lana. WTF?
- Lex's bulletproof brain.
- Kara going all doe-eyed over cueball.
- Clark *not* going crazy and beating up the guy who kidnapped and aimed a gun at his only surviving relative. I would have paid to see Clark lose it and turn him into paste screaming "you kidnapped my cousin!". Maybe I've been watching too much Sarah Connor Chronicles...

However, it was redeemed by Clark beating the hell out of evil Lex. Every time Clark punches Lex I smile a little. the Kent Toss is a bit lame though

ClarksNextGF
02-15-2008, 06:43 AM
How in the world is Lex able to track Kara? That made absolutely no sense, seeing she went from FOS to Detroit in Blue and never had any contact with anyone from Smallville.

That is one of the few things in this episode that the did almost explain. Lex has commented in past episodes that he has his people "scouring the globe" looking for Kara. So, we can assume that one of his people found her and reported back to Lex. Then, later in the episode, we see Lex give her a necklace - and we can assume that the tracking device was in the necklace.

LoveHurts38
02-15-2008, 07:02 AM
The phone still gets to me...Lois you should of known better.

red_sun1938
02-15-2008, 07:52 AM
All of the above.

Horrible episode. So many plot holes and inconsistencies. Ugh. I mean, Clark could have supersped through Detroit and found Lois and Kara in a fraction of the time it took for that stupid mind meld. And how can they expect us to believe that a man can get shot in the forehead with a 9mm and survive long enough to be airlifted from Michigan to Kansas? Give me a break. :rolleyes:

Also, if Lois and Kara are still locked in that cage while Lex is bleeding out on the street, who called the police /ambulance? Did Finley call them out of remorse after he moved Lois and Kara away from the crime scene only to bring them back to the crime scene to lock them up again? WTF?

margroks
02-15-2008, 09:17 AM
I enjoyed this ep a lot in some respects because we're getting the setup for Clark to dump Lana's nasty ass after seven years of nauseating Clana with Clark giving Lana a pass on every awful thing she has done. At least we saw he's willing to give Lex a chance, too but the truth is both Lex and Lana went too far long ago and Clark should have called them both on it instead of shacking up with this self-centered horrible girl after all the awful things she's done which Clark should have picked up on. THis makes Clark look like a moron not to see Lana for what she really is already, especially after hearing her say she loved Biz more last week as well as hearing Biz say he knew Clark didn't really love her. It's way past time we got rid of stupid Clana and actually got some real heroic action with the hero growing up to accept his destiny- you know, the story we were promised seven years ago.

Chloe was great as always and her willingness to sacrifice herself to save Clark was right in line with how this ability of hers has always been presented. There was nothing ridiculous about it. The interaction between Clark and Chloe afterward was also great with Clark making note of the fact that her actions went way beyond friendship. This seems to be a setup for something having to do with Clark and Chloe and the issue of immortality and the potential for a relationship "beyond friendship" between them.

But oh, Lord, the plot holes! Part of the problem is that way too much is happening in Offscreenville. So much that people feel they're being plopped down in the middle of something that is already much underway and while that can sometimes work, it is usually just bad storytelling and an excuse not to really have the details of the story make sense and follow logically in a certain direction and the latter is what we got in Fracture.

We still have no idea how Lex found Kara or put a tracer on her. We can see that EDLois was a fool to go haring off to find Kara when Lex already had her marked and could trace her better than just bumbling aorund in the dark as EDLo did but then that is her MO, bumbling around and then getting knocked out in spite of all those supposedly great martial arts skills. Obviously those skills are not so great as we've seen time and time again when EDLo gets KO'd and so misses all the real action.

We don't know why or even how EDLo followed Lex or, for that matter, why Lex allowed her to tag along once he found out. That made no sense at all since EDLo can't investigate or follow people unless a great big clue is dropped into her lap as per Combat and Phantom. Nor did it make any sense for EDLo going after Kara without mentioning to Clark that she thought she knew where she was. It also made no sense for EDLo to mention lending clothes to Kara since we've not been shown the two of them as that close and they are certainly not on screen together much at all.

WE still don't know why Kara was tossed out of the FOS and transported to Detroit, of all places, to begin with or why she would have lost her powers, points I think we should have been given some hint about earlier. Heck, I'm still waiting to hear why encasing Clark in a block of ice was a useful punishment unless the AI thought block of ice for a blockhead but still, why did that happen? WHat was the point? AND how did Biz find out Clark was missing and presume him dead? How did Chloe learn to control her abilities? AND why didn't we get to see Clark helping her as he offered to do previously? Too much is left to our imaginations and it guts the story.

Having Lex shot square in the forehead was pretty unbelievable as was transporting him to Smallville instead of treating him first in Detroit or at least in Metropolis. WE can assume Lionel had the best Medivac unit on call but a patient with a critical injury like that would not be moved unless absolutely necessary. AND since when did Smallville Med Center become the best place for trauma patients anyway? Is it because they're always treating Lex for head injuries? Again, not logical without a lot of storytelling we never got. We need more that Smallville is giving us as far as background these days; this has always been a problem made worse by the writer's strike I'd wager.

But overall Fracture was a big step up from the sickening Clana eps earlier in the season. THey just need to slow down and show us more of what's going on instead of opening up the eps without the needed background.

The Ship!
02-15-2008, 09:24 AM
Gotta say...this episode was really bad bad bad.

It is irritating to see a good concept downhill over and over again. I have said it a million times, why do they need LEX in the SHOW CALLED SMALLVILLE???????????????????
Save lex for Metropolis and Superman! this isn't about how all Lex came about, nor about how justice league was founded.

This show should be about Clark and how he deals with his identity flaws...not about Lex and these RIDICULOUS TECHNO CRAP(CLONES-METEORFREAKS-MIND CONTROL ECT..). This is just bad and bad.

I really don't know what else to say. All we learn is how stupid, shallow, hypocrite, lonely, arrogant Clark is. It appears that take away his powers, and he IS JUST ABOUT THE WORSTE PERSON ON EARTH!

Legendary Lois & Clark
02-15-2008, 09:31 AM
I could have done without the nearly soft core Lexana porn that they showed for what seemed like forever (though it was probably just a few seconds).
What did I hate the most? Yet another toss to take out the bad guy. That's why I love the classic George Reeves Superman series, where Superman could actually control his powers and actually punched his foes lights out or banged their heads together to knock them out or tied them up using a steel pipe or . . . the list could go on an on. Even if some of them were a tad silly at least there was a good variety that they gave us. This so-called Superman only ever has one move. Grab bad guy and toss. So lame.:confused:

Lara Lane
02-15-2008, 09:37 AM
The phone still gets to me...Lois you should of known better.

Yeah! I was like "Lois what are you doing!1 don't you know who you're dealing with??" It was stupid. stupid writers.

And Lana all super hacker... unreal that all the sudden she develops abilities that it takes hard work and years to learn.

Defenseless Kara also bothered me... but I liked that she had an heroic behavior and tried to defend Lois.

I've been upset because I think Chloe's sudden powers seem pointless and without any meaning for the story but I'm starting to fear they might actually be very important to her arc and that they might be preparing her death...


That's why I love the classic George Reeves Superman series where Superman could actually control his powers and actually punched his foes lights out or banged their heads together to knock them out or tied them up using a steel pipe or . . . t

Indeed! The super toss is awful... Clark abuses his powers, he's able to take a guy with a finger (remember poor Lois :p) but then he goes and has to toss them around.

GaidinDre
02-15-2008, 01:06 PM
My biggest problem was that for the first time they made me wish there was off screen development. When Chloe healed Jimmy I assumed she must have been practicing with her power off screen, but in this episode it was revealed that no, she never practiced, she just magically mastered her power. WTF!!!

Secondly there was no explanation as to why they even went to Lana in the first place. As ridiculous as it was for Lex to be in the Smallville Medical Center, Chloe was there and wanted to heal him. It appeared that was the course of action they were about to take, and then for no reason they were talking to Lana about Lionel's research, terrible writing. And as others have said, Clark not trying to restore Kara's memories didn't make any sense, and I'm not a fan of the super toss.

aXem
02-15-2008, 01:17 PM
hahahhaa @ The patented Kent Toss.

One of Superman's lesser-known powers.

MetroGirl06
02-15-2008, 01:27 PM
Superhacker Lana and Lex getting shot for the jillionth time. In the head, and still not dead! WTF!

Humdinger
02-15-2008, 02:37 PM
Thank you, Nospam, for starting this thread. I checked everything on the poll but Chloe and the toss. You picked up every plothole that I could think of and more. Obviously, Al/Miles are tired of Smallville and they're just throwing out anything to finish the season, which I believe will end shortly. (And probably should.) I love Smallville, but damn, is it too much to ask for a little continuity between eps?

Was it really that obvious in previous eps that Lex was looking for Kara, cause I missed it. When did Lex and Lois become traveling buddies, I missed that too. I assume nothing anymore in these eps, how many people can get shot right between the eyes and survive? Chloe's power is getting ridiculous, but they have to kill her off someway, so why not have her commit suicide by saving someone? Clark next time? And yes, I hate it that Lana is becoming a computer genius just by setting up a few monitors and typing stuff in a keyboard. Lexana sex, distasteful to say the least. Was that a body double? Lois just handed Lex her phone cause he gave her a ride to Detroit. Lex probably wound up in SMC because the PA was too lazy to go find a Detroit Medical Center sign. And that's my rant, folks.

TheOriginalKal-el
02-15-2008, 02:49 PM
What can I add that hasn't already been said. The premise of the episode had the potential to be really something...but like with most things nowadays, the ball was dropped...out of a 50 story window. The Lexana sex was completely distasteful.

Lara Lane
02-15-2008, 02:54 PM
Talking about plotholes... I am not sure I understand but if Kara lost her memory did she FORGET she had super powers? How come Clark realized immediately he had super powers even when he was amnesiac yet Kara doesn't?

Aloof
02-15-2008, 02:55 PM
Super hacker Lana, lmao.

I loved the Lexana scene, though. ;)

ClarksGal
02-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Talking about plotholes... I am not sure I understand but if Kara lost her memory did she FORGET she had super powers? How come Clark realized immediately he had super powers even when he was amnesiac yet Kara doesn't?

Kara doesn't have superpowers. Clark noticed that she was wearing a bandage, and commented that she must have lost her powers.

smallvillefreak24
02-15-2008, 03:33 PM
Lexana sex scene was SOOO disturbing, words cannot describe

supert
02-15-2008, 03:50 PM
Lionel was the one who brought Lex back to smallville so he could control lexes treatment with his doctors.

Mary Sullivan
02-15-2008, 04:09 PM
Lois was so dumb in this episode.

Nospam
02-15-2008, 04:20 PM
Thank you, Nospam, for starting this thread. I checked everything on the poll but Chloe and the toss. You picked up every plothole that I could think of and more. Obviously, Al/Miles are tired of Smallville and they're just throwing out anything to finish the season, which I believe will end shortly. (And probably should.) I love Smallville, but damn, is it too much to ask for a little continuity between eps?

Was it really that obvious in previous eps that Lex was looking for Kara, cause I missed it. When did Lex and Lois become traveling buddies, I missed that too. I assume nothing anymore in these eps, how many people can get shot right between the eyes and survive? Chloe's power is getting ridiculous, but they have to kill her off someway, so why not have her commit suicide by saving someone? Clark next time? And yes, I hate it that Lana is becoming a computer genius just by setting up a few monitors and typing stuff in a keyboard. Lexana sex, distasteful to say the least. Was that a body double? Lois just handed Lex her phone cause he gave her a ride to Detroit. Lex probably wound up in SMC because the PA was too lazy to go find a Detroit Medical Center sign. And that's my rant, folks.

Thanks. :)

There were some definite head scratchers this episode. But overall I liked the episode.

borednow
02-15-2008, 04:54 PM
Other:
Lois, in this episode with a non-super powered bad guy and still didn't get to kick anyone in the head.

markbot
02-15-2008, 05:50 PM
this might have been the worst episode ever. i just started watching heros I saw all 32 episodes in 3 days. the writing on heroes is like 10x better than the writing on smallville. acting is 20x better.

i'm seriously consdiering not watching the show anymore after this episode. it was just so absurd. if they had it such that the bodies and clark and lex switched when they woke up....i would have definitely stopped watching this show.

what is with the dialogue of lois? horendous and cheesy. why did kara lose her powers? the back and forth recriminations between clark and lex is so tired. this show is completely stuck. if it doesn't get much better i'm quiting. i think i've seen every single episode.

um...lex was shot in the head right between the eyes. coma???? are you serious???? and how could chloe even think about bringing lex back to life when she has to risk her own?????? ridiculous.

and someone mentioned this. how did the police not find lois and kara at the crime scene? wouldn't they be shouting and stuff...because of the bad guy. i think the editors ruined this episode. clearly the last scene in the show should have come earlier.

paolinki25
02-15-2008, 09:07 PM
super hacker Lana. It's just plain silly.

malft
02-16-2008, 12:05 AM
I think Lionel always brings Lex to SMC because he can control what info gets leaked to the Press. Why anyone else does the 3 hr cruise to Smallville from Metroplois for ER treatment is beyond reason.

Tobywolf13
02-16-2008, 03:31 AM
Plot Hole 1 - I am getting tired of Lanapedia, Super Hacker!!! getting shoe-horned into the plot. This is the fourth episode in a row where her new magical computer skills have helped save the day and they made no sense. Clark could have sped through Detroit in about five minutes and found them or tried using his superhearing to listen for Kara and Lois's voices. I'm willing to buy for whatever contrivance they needed to mindwalk Lex, okay.

However, it was LIONEL'S machine. You think that all frantic in the hospital he might have mentioned that particular top secret project when pressed. I mean, come on. Lanapedia was just tacked on as something to give her screen time in addition to the sex.

Plot hole 2 - How did Lois find Lex? Why was she tracking him? What story did she think she'd found? How in the world was Lex tailed and he didn't even notice her?

Plot hole 3 - Lex survives being shot in the head. This one I DO BUY. It's rare but it is possible to survive damage to the frontal lobe like that. You'd be winning the lottery odds to survive but it can happen. Besides, canonically, Lex is supposed to be a healing mutant (the disappearing asthma, the high white blood cell count, surviving a poisoning). If anyone could survive that even for a few extra hours, it would be Lex.

Plot Hole 4 - Medvacced to SMC? why? They have like the worst doctors ever.

Plot Hole 5 - Chloe's powers. I get that maybe the FX doesn't have the budget for Chloe to practice her expensive glowy power every week on healing goldfish or whatever, but how'd she go from ToS to controlled healing of Jimmy? Why didn't we ever get to see Clark help her master her powers like she's helped him with superbreath? I know it's costly, but something between Cure and Gemini with her harnessing her powers would have been appreciated.

Plot Hole 6 - I know they like prolonging the mystery of Kara, I guess, but why is she missing her powers and memory?

I have several theories:

1) Jor-El's a dick and he did it even though he told Clark he hadn't. Since Jor-El's taken powers before as punishment it's not too surprising he'd do that to Kara for siding with her father.

2) Something with the concussions from the destroyed crystal injured here.

3) At least as far as missing the powers, some part of the blue K ring Clark destroyed fractured off and was embedded in her skin.

4) Perhaps its psychosomatic and guilt-induced because she sided with Zor-El and he almost destroyed the world.

Personally, I'm still betting on Jor-El being a dick. However, since we've been in the dark about this since NOVEMBER, it would be nice to have it cleared up. An even bigger WTF is why, exactly, Clark didn't sit her down and explain who they really are and why she must under no circumstance talk to Lex.

I like, however, the Karex. It's obvious that Lex is using Kara to get to Clark's secret since he's long since ruined his ability to charm the Kent family secret out of Clark. Just like with bedding Lana (and the Lexana scene tonight should have made that point clear), Lex getting close to Kara is just another proxy for getting at Clark.

PepsiMax
02-16-2008, 03:46 AM
Lex getting shot in the head and surviving definitely. Come on - who survives a bullet in the head. Also the Lexana scene - that was just so uncomfortable to watch.

Charissa70
02-16-2008, 11:35 AM
just hate the way Lana is turning out. all of a sudden [B]super brains, super hacking powers, able to run a company(w/o being there most of the time.) Her being able to set up all these cameras in Lex's house when he has security devices.[B]Too much about Lana is not being explained. She seemed to learn too much while in Bejing. She is starting to look like a clone.

Jaderoyale
02-16-2008, 02:42 PM
I really cannot decide between the Lexana scene, or Lex getting shot in the forehead.

haltoe
02-16-2008, 04:00 PM
I agree with Tobywolf13's analysis of Jor-el. But let's remember that at the end of "Blue" Kara finally understands Zor-el's evil and makes the difficult decision to turn on her father. It'd be natural for Jor-el to show breathtaking ingratitude to someone who had to make such a heartwrenching choice. After all Jor-el is so lacking in compassion and empathy that he doesn't understand why Clark would want to meet the woman who gave birth to him.

Despite the show wanting us to believe that Jor-el is some kind of wise mentor to Clark he is nothing of the sort. Jor-el is an example of someone virtuous but self-righteous, of intellect without heart and knowledge without compassion. And yet we're supposed to believe that he is a great and wonderful mentor? No way!

That Smallville's writers present Jor-el as such only leads me to question their judgement. They don't seem to understand genuine wisdom or fatherhood. Jor-el is the Dad from hell.

jazel
02-16-2008, 08:46 PM
I hate that SV seems to push Clark, farther and farther, away from becoming Superman. Superman, would never enter somebody's mind. He knows right, from wrong, doesn't he ? It was a weak reason, he went in. Couldn't he have used his super hearing, to zone in on Kara's or Lois's voices, or heartbeats ? Detroit, ain't no NYC.:p
I hate that Fracture, had Chloe being the "hero", that saves the day. When IF ever, will Clark be the "true" hero ? Isn't this show, suppose to be about young CK, growing into the the man, apparently they will never let us see ?

kasealaine
02-16-2008, 11:22 PM
Detroit to the Med Center... maybe the Luthors have physicians on call there now.
Oh yeah, and super-hacker Lana. How pathetic that not only are they taking Chloe's job from her, but she's going to Lana too? I mean, she found LuthorCorp projects by hacking when she was still in high school! She could probably do it from her cell phone if she wanted! Good attempt at making the character of Lana worthwhile, AlGough. It still didn't work.
Also, Chloe is just about the only meteor freak who doesn't really get better at her abilities. I mean, she went from the stupid tear to being able to touch the wound and heal it, but, seriously, having her be dead longer and longer each time? And did anyone else get the feeling that they might have been foreshadowing that Chloe would save Clark and die that way? I wonder.
Lex being shot it the forehead. I was hoping that they bullet messing with his frontal lobe would mess up his personality for good so that we could see some real ruthlessness. But it doesn't appear to be so.

MRluvr
02-17-2008, 12:54 AM
good ep, but too many plot holes

smallvillerocks45
02-17-2008, 12:58 AM
The episode really wasn't that bad...I was curious as to how Clark was able to touch the GPS - he probably just should have leaned over and read it, but that wasn't what bothered me most. I disliked the fact that we never saw any Clark and Kara interaction. I'm sure we'll be seeing it in episodes to come, but it just seemed like something was missing. Also, there was no wrap-up with Lana...okay, Clark goes into Lex's mind, it could kill him, and we never see Lana meet up with Clark again- safe and sound... and come to think of it, how does Clark act around Lana after viewing such a horrific scene in Lex and Lana's (sex)life?

jazel
02-17-2008, 01:24 AM
Also, Chloe is just about the only meteor freak who doesn't really get better at her abilities. I mean, she went from the stupid tear to being able to touch the wound and heal it, but, seriously, having her be dead longer and longer each time? And did anyone else get the feeling that they might have been foreshadowing that Chloe would save Clark and die that way? I wonder.


At this point, I'm actually, hoping for her death.:p
Maybe, ONLY because, Chlark fans seem to think, she has more importance to the "tale", than anybody else does.:lol:
Since when, has SUPERMAN, ever been about a nobody, w/ the name of Chloe Sullivan ? maybe since, NEVER ?:lol:
Apparently, Smallville IS only around, to bring attention to the MOST not important characters of one Chloe Sullivan, and Lana Lang.:lol:
NO offense, to the fans that love her, and "them", but I don't and won't. Superman, has always been about Lois, Jimmy, Lex and the DP....who and what exactly are Lana and Chloe :confused:

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 01:27 AM
NO offense, to the fans that love her, and "them", but I don't and won't. Superman, has always been about Lois, Jimmy, Lex and the DP....who and what exactly are Lana and Chloe :confused:

Except that this show is not about Superman at all.....
:lol:
:p

jazel
02-17-2008, 01:32 AM
Except that this show is not about Superman at all.....
:lol:
:p

of course, it isn't.;) LOL
Smallville, is "loosely" based on SUPER Chloe.:lol:

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 01:36 AM
.....and I could live with that.
:lol:

jazel
02-17-2008, 01:40 AM
.....and I could live with that.
:lol:
wow ! am impressed:p, that most men, could have such low "expectations".:lol:

GuardianAngel
02-17-2008, 01:43 AM
I hate that SV seems to push Clark, farther and farther, away from becoming Superman. Superman, would never enter somebody's mind. He knows right, from wrong, doesn't he ? It was a weak reason, he went in. Couldn't he have used his super hearing, to zone in on Kara's or Lois's voices, or heartbeats ? Detroit, ain't no NYC.:p
I hate that Fracture, had Chloe being the "hero", that saves the day. When IF ever, will Clark be the "true" hero ? Isn't this show, suppose to be about young CK, growing into the the man, apparently they will never let us see ?

I couldn't agree more!

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 01:46 AM
wow ! am impressed:p, that most men, could have such low "expectations".:lol:

Low? :lol: Chloe is awesome...... unlike Clark.
:o
:p

jazel
02-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Low? :lol: Chloe is awesome...... unlike Clark.
:o
:p

No, Chloe, is "bottom feeder":lol:......sadly, many fans still have high expectations of CK........even without any proof of things, going that way.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 02:27 AM
Based on what I've seen these last 7 years, I have more reason to support Chloe than Clark.

jazel
02-17-2008, 02:36 AM
Based on what I've seen these last 7 years, I have more reason to support Chloe than Clark.

So Smallville is all about a nobody, w/ the name of Chloe Sullivan ? :lol:
SORRY, but the reason I tuned in was for a NOBODY named Clark Kent aka Superman.:lol:

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 02:42 AM
So Smallville is all about a nobody, w/ the name of Chloe Sullivan ? :lol:
SORRY, but the reason I tuned in was for a NOBODY named Clark Kent aka Superman.:lol:

We therefore tuned in for entirely different reasons.

Khyla
02-17-2008, 07:52 AM
At this point, I'm actually, hoping for her death.:p
Maybe, ONLY because, Chlark fans seem to think, she has more importance to the "tale", than anybody else does.:lol:
Since when, has SUPERMAN, ever been about a nobody, w/ the name of Chloe Sullivan ? maybe since, NEVER ?:lol:
Apparently, Smallville IS only around, to bring attention to the MOST not important characters of one Chloe Sullivan, and Lana Lang.:lol:
NO offense, to the fans that love her, and "them", but I don't and won't. Superman, has always been about Lois, Jimmy, Lex and the DP....who and what exactly are Lana and Chloe :confused:

this isn't the story of "Superman". It's called "Smallville", it's got some elements from the Supes story, but if you want to boil it down, since AlMiles' original idea was for a refreshing, never been told before story about the young ambitious female DP reporter-to-be, it makes you see why so much attention is given to her.

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 07:58 AM
^
She's just drinking too much coffee, sometimes.
;)

aqgalaxy
02-17-2008, 08:03 AM
At this point, I'm actually, hoping for her death.:p


Yup I'm hoping for Lois's death too. She called herself the Sundance kid, who is a character that dies. Lex is going to kill her story, when Lois shoots to the Planet. Not to mention Lois is always in these death scenarios where she tries to attack someone with a weapon and then gets knocked out. Some Army brat huh? Can't even take on a busboy.

Also you may counter "why won't Chloe just heal Lois?" Well guess what, they are setting it up to where Chloe will use her power on Clark, and then end up being cured. She won't know this, and since EDLois is purely a plot device, they'll kill her to reveal to the audience that Chloe doesn't have her ability anymore. Reversals, Lois's death lead to Chloe's power manifesting, and Lois's death would lead to Chloe finding out she's no longer a Meteor Freak.

----- Added 42 Seconds later -----


^
She's just drinking too much coffee, sometimes.
;)

If that's the case there may be an IV sending he coffee straight to her blood.

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 08:10 AM
If that's the case there may be an IV sending he coffee straight to her blood.

Trust me, I have wished for that invention in the past....
:D
Until then, I stick to my DeLonghi.

GuardianAngel
02-17-2008, 08:14 AM
A DeLonghi coffeepot? I don't think I have seen one before...

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 08:15 AM
:lol:
No, my DeLonghi Espresso machine.....
:)

GuardianAngel
02-17-2008, 08:16 AM
^ :lol:

Khyla
02-17-2008, 08:22 AM
At this point, I'm actually, hoping for her death.:p


GAWD! can you imagine how DULL an episode would be without Allison Mac? without Chloe? :(

InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 08:32 AM
GAWD! can you imagine how DULL an episode would be without Allison Mac?
I remember one...... The one where Lionel and Martha were taken hostage at Luthorcorp...... Meanwhile Lana met Henry Small for the first (?) time....

Man, I was waiting for 42 minutes......in vain.
:p

Fly by guy
02-17-2008, 09:44 AM
Lexana. The longer spelling for gag.
There was so much to dislike in this episode I didn't even finish watching. After this hiatus, who will be left to watch? It was a terrrrrrrible episode to send us off for 4 weeks with no SV. Just what I wanted to see, Clark running around a warehouse, Gawd, the excitement. Yawn.

I was hoping for and Onyx or Memoria type eppy, not this drivel.

jazel
02-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Didn't you in another thread stated how you are a Chloe fan? jeeze jazel makes me wonder what facade you'll put on the next day.

----- Added 58 Seconds later -----



Don't mind Jazel, one day she's one away, the next is another.

I have NEVER waivered, in my reasons, for tuning into SV. I watch to see FUTURE Superman grow-up.:D

Jo-jo
02-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Very true & why do they need to ship off each & every character e.g. Jimmy & Chloe, Clark & Lana, Lex & Lana, now Kara & Lex, Lois & Oliver, Lois & Gabriel:mad:

They have already ruined Lana's character beyond repair, Clark is becoming worser & worser per episode, Chloe is nearly redundant, Kara is not even Kara, Jor-El is becoming a ruthless arsehole sorry he is one, Lionel is see saw, Lex has been light switched & as for Lois... well she's starting to become nearly as hated as Lana:mad:

Why can't they concentrate more on mythos than soap opera crap:mad::\:(

I really do injoy smallville and always have, but they have messed up the mythogy in a bad way. Lois should have never been intoduced before her working at the planet and hving " love relationships " with other superheroes ( augaman and G.A. ) before superman ain't cool. Lois Lane is superman's and no one elses. It's like invovling other poeple with Lucy and Ricky. I love kristin kreuk but superman belongs to lois.

Perry white should also have been a vetren of the daily planet. lois & jimmy are employed before perry white isn't right. what do u think?

Dustmite
02-17-2008, 04:48 PM
NO offense, to the fans that love her, and "them", but I don't and won't. Superman, has always been about Lois, Jimmy, Lex and the DP....

You forgot Clark Kent.


Since when, has SUPERMAN, ever been about a nobody, w/ the name of Chloe Sullivan?

We're watching Smallville in which Chloe Sullivan has played a part since the beginning.


No, Chloe, is "bottom feeder

I don't even know what that means but I'm guessing it's less then complimantary which of course is no problem. You don't like Chloe, that's fine. I'm only confused because in another thread you stated that you liked Chloe and thought she was an awesome character :confused:

I'm finding it hard to reconcile your two very different opinions of her.

Misskiss645
02-17-2008, 04:56 PM
I really hated that Lex got shot in the middle of the head and didn't die, but I also hate Lana being miss super hacker all of a sudden, that's Chloe's territory.

kryptonaidxh
02-17-2008, 07:13 PM
Lexana

What the Lana character is only good for, sex.

:lol::lol::lol:that´´s right, what I hated was Clark still acting like her excuser and telling her everything to her, after all the damage she has done, and she doesn´t deserve his trust anymore.:rolleyes:

ginnyfan
02-20-2008, 06:00 PM
Instead of having a tired "see Lionel is such a mean dad and husband" scene convince Clark that there's good in Lex; I wish that we'd gotten to see a Clark/Lex friendship scene from long ago. I'd have loved to see Clark remember his friend and not give up on Lex because of that. Instead Clark pities Lex again and again and again and again... and I guess they want the audience to pity Lex again and again and again and again. When in Season 1 he was a pretty cool guy who had some demons yes, but was fully ready and willing to defy his father's evil. *sigh*

I didn't like the Lex/Kara plot. It was just weirdly written. The whole episode was just weird. We didn't learn anything new. Going into Lex's head was supposed to be such a revelation. On the good side Lex had so much wonderful screen time and little Lex was great too. I wish Kara had confronted Lex about knowing her true identity and not telling her. There's so much.

susangail
02-20-2008, 08:54 PM
I didn't mind the episode, but I'm afraid I checked several things off the list, in descending order of yuck:

* Lex is shot in the forehead and doesn't die
* Icky Lexana sex (ew)
* Why did Lex end up in SV Med? (Detroit would do a much better job!)
* How did Lois end up in Detroit?
* Now it's superhacker Lana

Jade4813
02-20-2008, 08:57 PM
We didn't learn anything new. Going into Lex's head was supposed to be such a revelation.

I like Zoom's comment about the episode.

"I'm not even sure what the theme or moral of the story was. Lex is bad because his childhood sucked? Don't get amnesia in Detroit? Lex's mind is a lot more boring than you could ever imagine?

There wasn't even any deep insight into any of the characters. We already know Lex had a crappy childhood. We know Lionel was a rotten father and that Lillian was no prize either, but so what? Lana's parents were pancaked, Lois lost her mother to cancer and had a father who raised her like a son, Chloe's mom is a mutant and Clark's homeworld blew up. Oh, and Kara's dad was a nut beyond any of Lionel's wildest machinations. In essence, Lex is hardly alone in the scarred childhood Olympics, so just get over it."

I may not watch the episodes any longer, but I do love her reviews!

sil3nt
02-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Lex dropped the tracker thing right where he was shot..
Lex and Kara @@

borednow
02-22-2008, 03:07 AM
... better question: what didn't I hate about Fracture?

jaime,oburg
02-22-2008, 10:36 AM
HackerLana. And coming in a close second, (and maybe it is just the nurse in me), I find it ridiculous that a small town medical center is able to perform state of the art neurosurgery!:\

smvillefan88
02-22-2008, 10:49 PM
I think the most improbable feature of "Fracture" was the fact that Lex didn't instantly die from a bullet in the center of his head! I was not expecting him to live at all. In fact, notions of Lex's death made me wonder why his death was not something grand involving Clark. Even more unconvincing, Lex has enough time to be flown to a hospital, albeit a less equipped hospital, hundreds of miles away. Ridiculous.

jazel
02-23-2008, 01:00 AM
filler epi, with useless nonsense.:lol:

morethanmeetstheye
02-23-2008, 02:18 AM
I had also wondered how Lois and Chloe had not been found when Lex was, and it seems some other people are wondering too...let me help explain as it was explained to me:

Lionel mentioned this: That Lex had been discovered in a ditch, which means that the
busboy must have dragged him there, so that when they found Lex it was NOT in the same area near the junkyard, which was where he was previously located.

I hope that helps make things more understandable-because they obviously did not make it clear enough in the episode if anyone is still left wondering.

I guess I can accept that Lex could possibly survive the forehead shot based on his meteor-enhanced immune system...it's a stretch, but oh well.

The only reason I'm not completely annoyed with the Lana/Lex bed seen (though it was "icky" to watch), was the fact that it might help Clark break it off with Lana. *if only* The look of horror on his face could be a good sign for that to come...for the sake of our sanity.

I don't think there is anything wrong with Chloe's powers, just that we should have seen some screen time where Clark is helping Chloe learn to master them as he promised. They could at the VERY LEAST imply that it happened in offscreenville, but they don't even give us that courtesy. After all, who would be better to teach Chloe how to master a super-power? He would be the perfect person to help and lend advice after all of the powers he has dealt with himself, right?? I mean they already have a built-in teacher! Wouldn't it even support their whole idea of her being his sidekick, by having Clark become her mentor in this field?

Even though I know they needed the cell phone to be a plot device so that it could be found with Lex, identified by Chloe, and found to have the picture with Kara...I am really unhappy that they had to make Lois look incompetent with the way she hands it on over. Come on, we know she's smarter than that!! Why, oh why, did the writer's ignore that? Because after that, won't it be hard to get us to believe that Lex should ever feel threatened by her as he should feel of Lois Lane?

The Kent-toss didn't strike me as annoying when I was watching, yet now that it's mentioned, I see in retrospect how they could have been so much more creative...I just guess that simply knocking him out instantly isn't as theatrical as frisbying him away. *sigh* You guys are right, it certaintly has been used too much.

Lois has been interested in and/or tailing Lex, so that is why she showed up in Detroit, but still I obviously can't answer the GPS thing.

My favorite parts:
1)Lana's kiss to an unreciprocating Clark. (Yes!! score!!!)
2)Chloe chosing to die (and maybe not coming back) in order to save Clark.
3)Clark deciding to never give up on Lex, and getting a chance to promise that to "Alexander". Plus, how he later told Lex while quoting his own line back to him, and meanwhile getting Lex to think about it. (Yes! That was a much needed strong moment for Clark to be the one with the thought-provoking statement who gets to walk out the door...something that they always have everyone else doing to him, so it was refreshing)

My number one worse thing:
Super-hacker Lana, where, where, WHERE did this skill come from? IS it not enough that they are putting Lois in Chloe's journalism territory? (I can live with this) but why put Lana into her hacking territory??? We are losing the Chloe that we know and love! I know she has a superpower angle, but giving Lana one of the characteristics specific to Chloe just to give her something to do is absolutely ridiculous...was that the only thing they could think of? grrrr...

red_sun1938
02-25-2008, 09:28 AM
... better question: what didn't I hate about Fracture?

Yeah, same for me. I can't believe this ep is so liked and well reviewed by some. How can people overlook the plotholes, mistakes and inconsistencies? This episode makes me cringe in an uncomfotable way.

All about Clark
02-25-2008, 05:12 PM
I have to agree, I did not find the logic in this ep. For me the worst of it was when Lex got shot, he should have been brain dead immediately.

Also, why wasn't a half dead shot victim's location been noted and told to the family.

And if they show one more episode focused on tunnels or corridors, I'm going to gag.

Runestone
03-01-2008, 08:37 PM
I hated everything on the list except the Lexana sex scene that Clark was forced to watch. It served its purpose as long as it drives Clark and Lana further apart.

jazel
03-01-2008, 08:38 PM
I hated everything on the list except the Lexana sex scene that Clark was forced to watch. It served its purpose as long as it drives Clark and Lana further apart.
:lol:

6-Super-Man -5
03-02-2008, 12:14 AM
filler epi, with useless nonsense.:lol:

:lol:

simplemath
03-02-2008, 01:25 AM
The lexana sex scene really made the clana relationship harder.... It definitely made a wedge between them

MegaFehr
03-03-2008, 07:54 AM
What I don't like about some people's arguments is the whole "This isn't Superman, it's Smallville".
That to me is just so... wrong.
This show was initially being marketed as Superman - the early years.
Not Superman - alternate universe. The main focus of the seasons should have been to show how Clark evolves and changes into Superman. Not how Clark finds more items from Krypton that are never mentioned again and Clark basically just gains more powers (not greater power).
What annoys me most about the series as a whole is that there has been NO development. Not in characters or story.
There have been changes, sure, but no developments.
Clark is still the exact same person as he was in the 1st episode.
Lex is still sorta evil, trying to insidiously learn Clarks secret. No change or development there. Lana has changed (but not developed). The super hacker thing is a prime example of this. Its like the writers think "that fits into this particular episode, so that means: its good for the show".

All in all, I continually feel like I've seen the new episodes before. Lex gets shot, someone has their personality changed for some reason, Clark loses his powers, someone else gains some powers, a female employee of the daily planet is a nightime crimefighter in disguise (THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED TWICE!!!)

This episode was BAD, just like the one before it and the one that will follow it... Goodbye Smallville.

jazel
03-03-2008, 08:02 AM
All in all, I continually feel like I've seen the new episodes before. Lex gets shot, someone has their personality changed for some reason, Clark loses his powers, someone else gains some powers, a female employee of the daily planet is a nightime crimefighter in disguise (THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED TWICE!!!)

This episode was BAD, just like the one before it and the one that will follow it... Goodbye Smallville.

:lol:
IF only, my will was strong like yours. I just can NOT, NOT watch.......sort of like addiction....just one more hit, and I'll walk away.:\

Ares
03-06-2008, 10:12 AM
getting shot in the forehead an being fine an ending up in Smallville Medical that was a bit off..

Iritscen
04-15-2008, 08:14 AM
I can't disagree with most of the criticism of this episode, but I have definitely heard of people surviving being shot in the head. One guy was shot in the head by his ex in a parking lot, jumped into his vehicle, and drove to the hospital. I think he's pretty much okay now. A part of the brain can assume the function of another part over time, so even without healing powers a person could be 100% after being shot in the head. The only time a person's pretty much dead meat is when the bullet bounces around inside the skull. If it lodges in the bone, or even goes straight through, you are more likely to survive.

And for what it's worth, I thought it was touching that Clark doesn't want to give up on Lex, and that Chloe was willing to use her powers selflessly.

But yeah, the Kent Toss is getting ridiculous. It's such a dangerous way to KO someone. Look at how many times someone crashes through glass, or into an electrical device, etc. It's a miracle he doesn't kill anyone doing it. As someone mentioned, a flick to the head while passing by at super-speed would do the trick, and the person wouldn't even know what hit them, as opposed to seeing a kid pick them up and hurl them into the air. I guess it's just more visually dramatic to send someone flying. Remember in A-Team when people would go flying over the camera when flung?

lauraforever
06-18-2008, 05:21 AM
I would have loved to know what happened between Kara and Jacob Finley in that last scene where she goes to tell him that she's leaving with Lex.

Apart from that: AWESOME EPISODE

Jaderoyale
06-18-2008, 06:14 AM
Lex being shot in the middle of his head, and surviving was absolutely ridiculous.
Also the Lexana sex. One way to make your dinner come back up.

alejandrita439
07-13-2008, 01:10 PM
Now it's super hacker Lana.

Canary
06-15-2009, 05:02 PM
Lexana.

RaniaLovesClois
06-21-2009, 03:57 AM
1.The icky Lexana sex made a disturbing return. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....
2.Lex is SHOT IN THE CENTRE OF HIS FOREHEAD and doesn't die. :rolleyes:
3.Now it's super hacker Lana......:rolleyes:

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
10-21-2010, 05:40 PM
The Lexana scene showed pretty much what Lana is only usefull for...

Simba_Muffy
05-29-2011, 03:26 AM
That Lexana sex scene. I think I'm going to be sick. The others were bad too.

Superboogie
07-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Not hating but I found it amusing that Lois just handed her evidence photos (the phone) to Lex... I know cell phones are for taking pix these days (!) but she could have just used it like phones are usually used and call Clark but what do I know. Great writing. :lol: