Strong ties to other episodes

[xrayvision]

I applaud this episode for the strong ties it had with SEVERAL past episodes. As soon as I saw the director's cut & preview for this episode, I had flashbacks of Nemesis.

This episode had ties to the following episodes that I noticed:

Memoria
Hourglass
Scare
Nemesis
Onyx

Memoria: We saw more of Lex's youth and what he was accustomed to while growing up. We saw more of the abuse Lionel gave Lex & Lillian.

Onyx: Evil Lex from Onyx that emerged due to black-k was shown again, this time wreaking havoc in Lex's mind and how he controlled Lex's actions. That Evil Lex personifies the anger, distrust, and hatred within Lex.

Hourglass & Scare: We saw Lex as the President in the future wearing the white suit. He wore that same suit again this episode. The Evil Lex who once again appeared is a clear representation of how possible it is for Lex to launch nukes like he did in his vision of his worst fears.

Nemesis: Clark towards the end ponders if he gave up on Lex too quickly. In Fracture, he tells Lex's good side that he will never give up on him and how he felt that the 2 would be friends again.

[IamProdigy]

You could say "Lexmas" too, just because it deals with Lex.

[jimmyolsenblues]

xray , you really know your episodes, you are the man.

[xrayvision]

I should have also included Void.

Void: Lex's own mother even gives up on him and tries to make him stay dead with her than go back and murder the multitude of people she knows he will kill. Yet Clark still sees good in Lex that his own mother didn't.


xray , you really know your episodes, you are the man.

Thanks for the nice words.

[minerva73]

Nice list. It really does connect to all of them now that I look at it. This season has been really strong with connecting to previous episodes and stuff.

I have one, but I'm not sure if it fits too well.

Fragile or Hypnotic: Clark walked in Lex's mansion to see Lana and Lex kissing each other and he stood there and looked at them for a while. Or in "Hypnotic", when Lana walks in on Simone and Clark and she stands there and watches before she leaves devastated.

[Palin Dromos]

Also a direct reference to "Rage" from last season with Lionel's "healing serum" talk at the end.

[ClareKent]

I really like the way in that all this season's episodes are tied to other ones, love the continuity.

[Spirit Detective]

I was surprised by the mention of Rage and the healing serum. I love how the continuity is kept.

[xrayvision]

It's amazing how many things I have planned (for several months now) to include in my fanfics that are being incorporated into the show. I have seen many things happen this season that are either exactly to what I have planned or very similar to it.

The continuity this episode was great. I love how they had Alisen Down play Lex's mom on every single occasion.

[Pal-El]

Bizarro was the most obvious. The image of an angel like Kara floating in the water when Clark looked through the broken window.

[beternal]

wow, surprised the one that screamed out to me hasn't been mentioned...

'Blank' - In Blank, Clark loses his memory and Chloe lets Lex look after him... Clark knows to be cautious but lex is always trying to trick him into revealing things about himself. This seems to be recurring here with Kara - he's hoping to take advantage of her amnaesia by masquerading as her friend

[ClarksNextGF]

I applaud this episode for the strong ties it had with SEVERAL past episodes. As soon as I saw the director's cut & preview for this episode, I had flashbacks of Nemesis.
Memoria: We saw more of Lex's youth and what he was accustomed to while growing up. We saw more of the abuse Lionel gave Lex & Lillian.

Onyx: Evil Lex from Onyx that emerged due to black-k was shown again, this time wreaking havoc in Lex's mind and how he controlled Lex's actions. That Evil Lex personifies the anger, distrust, and hatred within Lex.

Hourglass & Scare: We saw Lex as the President in the future wearing the white suit. He wore that same suit again this episode. The Evil Lex who once again appeared is a clear representation of how possible it is for Lex to launch nukes like he did in his vision of his worst fears.

Nemesis: Clark towards the end ponders if he gave up on Lex too quickly. In Fracture, he tells Lex's good side that he will never give up on him and how he felt that the 2 would be friends again.

Memoria - no. When have we ever seen Lionel being phyically abusive? This was a new twist. Lex has even commented several times about his father's "particual brand of abuse". This is exactly the opposite of continuity. And, there has never been mention of Lillian spying on Lionel, or confronting him about his lack of ethics. Then, she turns and blames Lex for telling on her - in every previous episode with her, she is trying to protect Lex.

Onyx & Hourglass: Lex being evil is a running theme in the whole mythology and does not equal Smallville continuity. There was no Black-K, or any other K in this episode. I don't remember their being anything about nukes or Lex's fears in this episode either.
The fact that Lex is wearing white has NOTHING to do with continuity. How many episodes does Clark wear red? Did Lana wear pink? Does Chloe wear blue?

Nemesis: So, now a repeated scene from a previous season equals continuity? That really says alot about how desperate we are for continuity in this show. :(

The scene with the angel floating in the water - that was nice.
The mention of green arrows syrum was nice - although how Lionel could possibly know about that was never explained.

[ClarkyBoy14]

"Truth" - Lex admits to Chloe that what he really wants from his father is for to love Lex. At the end of Act IV, Lionel does tell Lex that he loves him, but it seems like it's too late.

And I agree about always bringing Alison Down back, xrayvision. I'm glad they do that.

[xrayvision]

Memoria - no. When have we ever seen Lionel being phyically abusive? This was a new twist. Lex has even commented several times about his father's "particual brand of abuse". This is exactly the opposite of continuity. And, there has never been mention of Lillian spying on Lionel, or confronting him about his lack of ethics. Then, she turns and blames Lex for telling on her - in every previous episode with her, she is trying to protect Lex.

Lionel gave a backhanded slap/fist to young Lex in Memoria when he found out that Julian was dead. Watch it again and you will see what I'm talking about. That was the first sign of Lionel's hate for Lex after Julian died. Lillian in Memoria talked about how Lionel would turn Lex & Julian against each other & make them compete for his love and that was her reason for killing Julian. She even wanted a divorce from Lionel in Memoria.


Onyx & Hourglass: Lex being evil is a running theme in the whole mythology and does not equal Smallville continuity. There was no Black-K, or any other K in this episode. I don't remember their being anything about nukes or Lex's fears in this episode either.
The fact that Lex is wearing white has NOTHING to do with continuity. How many episodes does Clark wear red? Did Lana wear pink? Does Chloe wear blue?

The Lex I'm talking about was the one in his mind. You missed the whole point of black-k. The black-k in Onyx brought out that evil, sick maniacal Lex we saw in his mind in Fracture in his own seperate body. That evil Lex from Onyx has been brewing inside of Lex all this time, getting stronger as the years go by. The evil Lex is one extreme, while the good Lex in Onyx (and the young Lex in Fracture) is his good extreme. If it was the other way around and Lex would be roaming around in Clark's mind, he would find the Kal-El from Crusade in some portion of his mind, but Kal-El would not have overwhelming control over Clark's body as evil Lex did of Lex's body. Those alternate sides to Lex and Clark exist deep within them and that's what we saw in Fracture. We saw what the black-k would bring out and what has been going on in Lex's mind for years now.

The Evil Lex in Lex's mind was the same evil Lex in Onyx. His actions and personality were exactly the same. He was an uncontrollable maniac as he was when he said "I give your life meaning...I'm the real Lex Luthor!!" in Onyx. The real Lex is never that crazy, and in my opinion will never be that crazy. He may have shades of being that maniacal, but that good side of Lex will always be in him no matter how much worse he gets.

And Lex wearing white does have continuity. How often does he wear white, let alone the same white suit that he was shown wearing in Hourglass & Scare? We don't need nukes to see how that ties in with those episodes. That Evil Lex wearing the white suit from Hourglass/Scare was to show that it is those evil characteristics that will make him do evil things, such as launching nukes, in the future. And it also means that the same thing he feared in Scare (Lex in that white suit as president) has now taken control of his mind/body/soul (hence Evil Lex wearing white).

And if you look even more, there is more continuity. In Hourglass, Cassandra saw Lex as president and then saw the sunflowers dying and a rain of blood. Cassandra did NOT see the nukes. She did see the skulls and human remains, which was her vision's way of saying that Lex will kill many people. Lex's fear dream had portions of Cassandra's vision but that he was afraid he would launch nukes and destroy the world. This episode tied those 2 scenes from Hourglass & Scare. Clark saying he will always watch over Lex in Fracture means that he is the reason why Cassandra did NOT see the nukes. Because Clark as Superman will prevent that from happening. He will prevent Lex from destroying the world. The skulls & remains seen in Cassandra's dream meant that along the way, Lex would kill several people but would not destroy the world because Superman will prevent it.


Nemesis: So, now a repeated scene from a previous season equals continuity? That really says alot about how desperate we are for continuity in this show. :(

It was not a repeated scene. In Nemesis, Clark had regrets about giving up on Lex. In Fracture, he decided that he won't give up on him. He knows that Lex will do many evil things, but that as long as that good side of Lex is fighting within him, that Clark will watch over him. In Nemesis, he expressed doubt. But here, he showed resolve and conviction and finally made up his mind. This episode closed the "Clark having regrets about giving up on Lex" arc. It was a very important step in his journey to becoming Superman.


The scene with the angel floating in the water - that was nice. The mention of green arrows syrum was nice - although how Lionel could possibly know about that was never explained.

Well, Lionel knows about a lot of stuff and it's never explained how he does. He was in the episode Rage, so maybe he was snooping around while Lex & Ollie fought. Perhaps Clark told him.

But whether you agree with me or not, this episode closed some important gaps and tied into previous continuity and came full circle with them just like that "Lex yelling in the rain" scene in Persona did with the "Lex yelling in the rain" scene in Memoria.

[ClarksGal]

This episode also kind of closed a series long arc...Lex's quest for love from Lionel. He finally got it, but it's too late. Lex just sneered and walked out of the room. That scene was extremely important, in my opinion.

[ClarksNextGF]

Perhaps we are talking about two different things. Continuity is something that happens or is said in a episode that directly relates to a previous episode.


Lionel gave a backhanded slap/fist to young Lex in Memoria when he found out that Julian was dead. Watch it again and you will see what I'm talking about. That was the first sign of Lionel's hate for Lex after Julian died. Lillian in Memoria talked about how Lionel would turn Lex & Julian against each other & make them compete for his love and that was her reason for killing Julian. She even wanted a divorce from Lionel in Memoria. .

Yes, Lionel actually raised his hand - but, he did not actually hit Lex. Yes, Lionel was a cruel evil man. That doesn't mean that he was physically abusive - that is a NEW issue that was raised in this episode.


The Lex I'm talking about was the one in his mind. You missed the whole point of black-k. .....
No, I didn't miss the point - I disagree with you. Yes. Lex is evil - and is getting more evil all the time. That is NOT continuity in Smallville - that is part of the Superman mythology. That would be like saying an episode has continuity because we see the Kents living on a farm.


And Lex wearing white does have continuity. How often does he wear white, let alone the same white suit that he was shown wearing in Hourglass & Scare? ..... And if you look even more, there is more continuity. In Hourglass, Cassandra saw Lex as president and then saw the sunflowers dying and a rain of blood.
Again, wearing the same color suit as before is not continuity. We don't consider Clark wearing his blue coat to be continuity. If any of the characters had mentioned something from the previous episode - or if Lex did the same actions - then, we would have continuity.
Cassandra was never mentioned in this episode. Lex was not President. The rain of blood was never mentioned. and there were no sunflowers ?!? I don't understand how this information is related to this conversation ??


It was not a repeated scene. In Nemesis, Clark had regrets about giving up on Lex. In Fracture, he decided that he won't give up on him. He knows that Lex will do many evil things, but that as long as that good side of Lex is fighting within him, that Clark will watch over him. In Nemesis, he expressed doubt. But here, he showed resolve and conviction and finally made up his mind. This episode closed the "Clark having regrets about giving up on Lex" arc. It was a very important step in his journey to becoming Superman.
Clark is constantly giving up on Lex and then regretting it. That has happened at least once in every season since season 4. Again, that's part of the Superman mythology.

Why do you see this as an important step? Yes, that's part of his character - but this isn't the only example. And, I'm sure it won't be the last example either.


Well, Lionel knows about a lot of stuff and it's never explained how he does.
Yes. I call those plotholes.


But whether you agree with me or not, this episode closed some important gaps and tied into previous continuity and came full circle with them just like that "Lex yelling in the rain" scene in Persona did with the "Lex yelling in the rain" scene in Memoria.

Yes, Lex yelling into the rain was a great example of continuity.

[xrayvision]

This episode also kind of closed a series long arc...Lex's quest for love from Lionel. He finally got it, but it's too late. Lex just sneered and walked out of the room. That scene was extremely important, in my opinion.

Yeah, that's another one. But I'm almost certain he said "I love you" to him before this. I think it was back in season 4 or 5. I know he said it in Transference and that he tried to switch bodies and leave him for dead immediately after, so I wouldn't count that. But I thought he said it again sometime.

[Palin Dromos]

Memoria - no. When have we ever seen Lionel being phyically abusive? This was a new twist. Lex has even commented several times about his father's "particual brand of abuse". This is exactly the opposite of continuity. And, there has never been mention of Lillian spying on Lionel, or confronting him about his lack of ethics. Then, she turns and blames Lex for telling on her - in every previous episode with her, she is trying to protect Lex.


Chronologically the flashbacks in "Fractured" come, I think, before most of the other stuff we've seen from Lex's childhood- note that he still has his hair. So this precedes the events of the Pilot. The stuff in "Memoria" all dealt with Lex after the meteor shower.

It's possible that the trauma of the meteor shower changed Lionel's parenting methods. Granted he was still a horrible father, but I think he curbed his physical abusivness after the accident.

It may have also changed how Lillian felt about Lex. If I remember correctly, she was the one who encouraged Lionel to take Lex to Smallville, and after the accident she probably felt responsible and became more protective of Lex as a result. Though I think her later mental breakdown is probably more tied into postpartum depression following the birth of Julian than anything else.

If there are other pre-accident Lex flashbacks that I'm forgetting please feel free to jog my memory. :)

[xrayvision]

Perhaps we are talking about two different things. Continuity is something that happens or is said in a episode that directly relates to a previous episode.

This may be the main issue then. In my original post, I didn't say continuity. I instead said strong ties. There's no denying that what I pointed out were ties. I would agree that continuity means references from previous episodes. But I also think it means continuing a previous arc. So I think there are 2 parts to continuity. There is the continuity of not forgetting previous plots and showing their effects on current events. And there is continuity of continuing previous arcs. An example of this 2nd definition of continuity would be the things I pointed out this episode--especially the development of Lex throughout the series (the Excelsior thing, Grant being Julian's clone and not creating additional plotholes, the continuity of Lex's mother throughout the series, and the continuity regarding Principal Reynolds and how Reunion tied up the loose ends on what was first mentioned in Redux).


Yes, Lionel actually raised his hand - but, he did not actually hit Lex. Yes, Lionel was a cruel evil man. That doesn't mean that he was physically abusive - that is a NEW issue that was raised in this episode.

He did hit him though. Lex's memory ended right when Lionel's hand hit young Lex. I don't know about you, but ever since seeing Memoria 4 years ago, it told me that Lex was abused as a kid. I don't think it was that often though. What Memoria revealed was that Lex's family was messed up before Julian was born or even conceived. Lionel said that Julian could make the Luthor family whole again. That told me that he treated Lex badly even before Julian was born. And not only mentally, but physically. If Lionel was that evil, I had no doubt he had it in him to hit Lex.


No, I didn't miss the point - I disagree with you. Yes. Lex is evil - and is getting more evil all the time. That is NOT continuity in Smallville - that is part of the Superman mythology. That would be like saying an episode has continuity because we see the Kents living on a farm.

The thing I'm looking at is the mythology the show is creating for itself because comparing it to the real mythology is too messy. And the main reason is that in the current timeline of Smallville, Lex at this point is not who/what he is in the real mythology. The reason for the show is to show how Lex becomes like that. The evil Lex inside Lex's mind is the same Lex from Onyx. All the characteristics are there. That is not the same Lex as the one in the real world. That Lex is pure evil. The one in the real world can actually have a conversation with Clark as seen in the end of Fracture. But the Evil Lex that we saw in his mind can't be reasoned with and would not listen to Clark whatsoever. That Evil Lex is not consistently seen on this show. There was only one other time such a madman was seen and that is Onyx. My point was that we finally got to see what the Evil Lex from Onyx (who personifies Lex's evil tendencies) does in Lex's mind on a daily basis. We saw the mental struggle that was mentioned in Onyx & several other episodes. And that struggle was shown by tying into the part of Lex first witnessed in Onyx and not seen since then.


Again, wearing the same color suit as before is not continuity. We don't consider Clark wearing his blue coat to be continuity. If any of the characters had mentioned something from the previous episode - or if Lex did the same actions - then, we would have continuity.
Cassandra was never mentioned in this episode. Lex was not President. The rain of blood was never mentioned. and there were no sunflowers ?!? I don't understand how this information is related to this conversation ??

I just can't convince you on this. To me, they obviously put the Evil Lex in his mind in that suit just to show that he's becoming what he most feared. There was no other reason for the white suit. It was an allusion to those 2 episodes. Clark is a bad example because he wears the same clothes every day. But Lex only wore that all-white suit & shirt twice and those times were in Hourglass & Scare. They obviously had MR dress in that to make us think back to those scenes. Cassandra or the content of the vision & hallucination didn't have to be mentioned. As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.


Clark is constantly giving up on Lex and then regretting it. That has happened at least once in every season since season 4. Again, that's part of the Superman mythology.

You're right that Clark has several times regretted giving up on Lex and showing faith in him. But this time, he outright stated that he will never give up on him. So they addressed the back/forth issue of Clark giving up on Lex and closed it by having him say that he will always watch over him. I mentioned Nemesis since it was the most recent one I could think of. But you can also mention the rest. Clark/Superman isn't really conflicted about Lex in the comics mythos as he is in Smallville. If you really think about it, continuity = an ongoing storyline, which over time makes up the mythology. The word continuity means something that is continuous and proceeds to go on and is not left at a dead end. This is why when something from the past is mentioned again, it is considered continuity (meaning that thing from the past is not left at a dead end). But continuity over a long period also creates the mythology. This is best illustrated with the comics. What started out as a small set of events started to compound and the events became inter-related until a huge network of events that have happened since the day Superman was created becomes the mythology. Without continuity, there is no mythos. Everything would be a standalone story and there would be no flow and no consistency to call a mythos.


Why do you see this as an important step? Yes, that's part of his character - but this isn't the only example. And, I'm sure it won't be the last example either.

It was an important step because to me, he finally put Lex into perspective and has a plan forward regarding how to deal with him in the future. He will not kill him under any circumstances or even leave him somewhere that he may be harmed. I also think it allows him to understand that Lex will do many evil things and that as long as that piece of good is still inside him fighting, there is always a chance he can find his way back. After witnessing the mental struggle within Lex firsthand, he knows why Lex will do evil things. It puts him in a tougher position now that he knows that within his greatest enemy lies his best friend trying to once again break out. And seeing how he will take on that burden as Superman just makes Clark seem that much more of a hero.


Yes. I call those plotholes.

Well, if that is a plothole, it's a much smaller one than some of the others. I think Lionel knew by either talking to Clark or by spying on Lex, which he obviously does. Lionel did say in Sneeze that if he were having Lex followed, he would never know it. That means that Lionel can get info from Lex. But there came a time where Lionel could no longer track Lex, and I think that started sometime in the middle of season 6 when Lex started working on his projects at the Dam with Wes and alien peptides.


Yes, Lex yelling into the rain was a great example of continuity.

So we agree on that. Good. That was an example of my 2nd meaning of continuity where instead of referring to something done in the past, Lex did something very similar to it that tied in with that past event.

[ClarksGal]

It was an important step because to me, he finally put Lex into perspective and has a plan forward regarding how to deal with him in the future. He will not kill him under any circumstances or even leave him somewhere that he may be harmed. I also think it allows him to understand that Lex will do many evil things and that as long as that piece of good is still inside him fighting, there is always a chance he can find his way back. After witnessing the mental struggle within Lex firsthand, he knows why Lex will do evil things. It puts him in a tougher position now that he knows that within his greatest enemy lies his best friend trying to once again break out. And seeing how he will take on that burden as Superman just makes Clark seem that much more of a hero.

I completely agree with you that this was another important step. The thing is with this continuity definition, is that we had a starting point for the SV mythos (i.e. Pilot), and there is an ending point where the audience expects Clark and Lex's character's to end up at the end of the series. The writers' jobs are to advance the story to get those two characters from the starting point to the ending point. So to me, generally, continuity means that the writers are using and advancing on plot points throughout the story to move the characters from the origination point toward their ending point. "Good continuity" in my mind occurs when this is done in a way that makes sense based on what has happens previously in the series. It's especially nice when one episode touches on and advances plot points from several different episodes.

One example of this is that the audience knows that Superman is supposed to look for the good in people, and never completely gives up on Lex Luthor...he will still save Lex, or anyone else if they need it. This is kind of a code of Superman. But Clark is not totally there yet, or at least I didn't see it as clearly until this episode. Clark has given Lex a lot of chances throughout their friendship, but Clark had given up on his friendship with Lex. He even has recently let him get hurt and at the beginning of this episode actually refused to let him be saved. But by the end, Clark made a statement that he will never give up on Lex. That he will always be there for him. And he told Alexander that he will always look for him. So basically, every time he talks to Lex, he is going to be looking for the good in him. As a Superman fan, that is a huge progression of Clark's character toward becoming Superman, and it serves to move the story from the origin point in the pilot, when they first became friends, through their friendship, lack thereof, and now, to this.

[xrayvision]

^^Good points.

The main reason I started this thread was to point out how they weave pieces they introduced in the past with the ongoing storyline and relate them using parallels and by contrasting them. The one that really stood out was how Lex feared becoming someone who would destroy the world (in Scare) and how that has come to fruition. It shows how the story is not that segmented and how the entire thing with Lex going down the dark path was a long process.

[ClarksNextGF]

This may be the main issue then. In my original post, I didn't say continuity. I instead said strong ties.

Your right you did say strong ties. I still disagree with you.


He did hit him though. Lex's memory ended right when Lionel's hand hit young Lex. I don't know about you, but ever since seeing Memoria 4 years ago, it told me that Lex was abused as a kid. ....

Just because that's how YOU interepted it - doesn't mean that's what happened. I am not refering to things that happened off screen that we can only guess about. I am only talking about things that happened during the show. There is no doubt that Lex was abused, not only as a kid, but his entire life. However this is the first episode where phsyical abuse is present. And it was the first episode where Lillian was physically abused. And it was the first episode where Lillian was mean or rude toward Lex. That's not continutiy. That's not even "strong ties" - that's a new story line that was invented in this episode.


The thing I'm looking at is the mythology the show is creating for itself because comparing it to the real mythology is too messy. And the main reason is that in the current timeline of Smallville, Lex at this point is not who/what he is in the real mythology. The reason for the show is to show how Lex becomes like that. ....

Umm.. NO. First - "real mythology" - WTF is that??? The whole thing is fake - all of it. The comics, tv shows, movies, Lois n Clark, Smallville, Superman Returns - ALL FAKE!!!

Second - "the reason for the show" is to describe the journey of Clark Kent becoming Superman - if you don't agree, go back and read the Pilot, and the Justification (what ever it's called) that Miles & Gough used to sell the show. It's ABOUT Clark. Not Lex.


I just can't convince you on this. ....

Good. Something else we agree on :)


You're right that Clark has several times regretted giving up on Lex and showing faith in him. But this time, he outright stated that he will never give up on him. ....

This has happened before. This is not the first time. I don't remember the episodes, but Clark has said that to Jonathon at least once. And to Chloe.


It was an important step because to me, he finally put Lex into perspective and has a plan forward regarding how to deal with him in the future. He will not kill him under any circumstances or even leave him somewhere that he may be harmed. ....

He wouldn't have before either - and Clark has said that. That's a Superman thing and it's not unique to this episode.

A couple ties that I hadn't noticed before:
The reference to Clark's telescope - and him using it to spy on people.
The reference to the necklace for the patron saint. The previous one was the patron saint of travelers, not the patron saint of lost souls. But it did remind me of the other episode. Can't remember the girl's though:confused:


RE: Palin Dromos
Yes, you are correct, these flashbacks all happened before Memoria. I think Lex was seven - in one of the first episodes he tells Clark that his father gave him that war set when he was seven. (Hey - more continuity :) )
And yes, Lillian made Lionel take Lex with him to Smallville - to buy the cream-corn factory. That's when the meteor shower happened that made him lose his hair.
I don't remember Lex ever saying what disease Lillian had, only that it was incurable.

[Dean_19]

Someone might have posted this one, but I couldn't be bothered to read all the really long posts... :lol:

There is a direct link to "Jinx". Clark says to Lex "Anything thats lost can be found again"

Lex says the exact same thing to Myxpitilick (whatever) right at the end of the ep, when he has lost his ability. I'm sure Lex says it to Clark as well in one of the very early episodes.

I thought it was cool that Clark used his words back to Lex, although Clark didn't know Lex had said it in the past..