View Full Version : Should Clark have a say in Chloe using her power?
harryandginnyfanatic
02-14-2008, 02:09 PM
Technically it was his planet that the meteors that infected her came from. So that makes him like part owner of the power.
He could become her manager. Make appointments for the people who want healing or resurrecting. Make decisions on prices.
$300 to heal a scraped knee. $10,000 for resurrections. And they split everything 50/50.
:lol:
Seriously though. Does Clark really have the right to tell Chloe what she can and cannot do with her power?
BadToad
02-14-2008, 02:11 PM
No, but he can offer his opinion as her best friend, and someone who worries for her safety. Then Chloe can decide whether to listen to him or not.
Kalista
02-14-2008, 02:14 PM
He could become her manager. Make appointments for the people who need healing or resurrecting. Make decisions on prices.
$300 to heal a scraped knee. $10,000 for resurrections. And they split everything 50/50.
:lol:
No but since he always worries about her safety, he will try to dictate what she does with her power. Funny thread
Lostfan588
02-14-2008, 02:15 PM
I think he should have a say as her best friend who cares about her, but ultimately it's Chloe's decision. Just like Chloe doesn't make the final call as to what Clark can/can't do with his powers. I think it should be more 50/50 and they decide as a team.
Heck if Clark kicked it up a knotch, then I agree with aqgalaxy about this giving Clark more of a reason to want to get proactive and finish his training. He can get to the people 1st he may be able to save them so Chloe doesn't have to die all the time. Die or die die....either one? Man this power is strange.
AndiGirl
02-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Clark tends to be over protective of Chloe...so of course he wants to give his input. But the final call belongs to Chloe, but I completely understand why he wouldnt want her to use them. Maybe he has more of a say over who she uses them on. Like...he has every right to request she doesnt use them on him...and to just let him die. I'm not sure she would do that...actually, i know she wouldnt. But he can try!! :)
aqgalaxy
02-14-2008, 05:18 PM
Clark has the right to voice his opinion, but Chloe gets the final say.
theotherJane
02-14-2008, 05:29 PM
Does Chloe have a say in Clark using his abilities?
Then, no.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-14-2008, 05:36 PM
Seriously though. Does Clark really have the right to tell Chloe what she can and cannot do with her power?
:confused:
Of course not....
VAILIMA
02-14-2008, 08:18 PM
Personally I think tptb are building up to a very emotional end of the greatest creation this show has produced since season 1, Chloe.
jazel
02-15-2008, 01:23 AM
what ever happened to, every man for himself ? SORRY, was thinking of the Three Stooges...:lol:
6-Super-Man -5
02-15-2008, 01:27 AM
No.............
jazel
02-16-2008, 12:03 AM
So that makes him like part owner of the power.
Does Clark really have the right to tell Chloe what she can and cannot do with her power?
WHAT ??? to the first part ! So CK should be held responsible for "things", that were BEYOND his control ?
HE was a baby, after all.:p
Do Clark, and Chloe "share" the same blood type. Possibly, the same brain ? Nope.....her body, her free will. YOU go Chloe, CK can't tell ya what to do, or not to do.;)
Smallvilledabest
02-22-2008, 08:06 AM
no
Hopefulsuicide
02-22-2008, 08:08 AM
well in fairness, when he was getting all pushy about it, she told him it was up to her and he totally backed off and said 'of course it is' in this quite genuine way
he knows he doesnt really have a say cause he is respectful of women, which was nice to see, i think he just wouldnt want the guilt that would come if she died to save him
Odysseus
02-22-2008, 08:12 AM
well in fairness, when he was getting all pushy about it, she told him it was up to her and he totally backed off and said 'of course it is' in this quite genuine way
he knows he doesnt really have a say cause he is respectful of women, which was nice to see, i think he just wouldnt want the guilt that would come if she died to save him
I agree. It is ultimately Chloe's choice to make.
Clark is just looking out for her, because she's his best friend and he's afraid that she might die (permanently) if she does it too often.
But Clark does recognize it is Chloe's choice, he's just trying to advise her.
jaime,oburg
02-22-2008, 10:25 AM
Clark can only do for his friend what she has been doing for him. Point out the consquences that may not have been considered then support and respect the decisions even if you disagree with them. Right or wrong only Chloe should be able to make the choices that will effect her own destiny. Finally, Clark as her best friend should be there when the choices she made didn't turn out the way she envisioned, what a best friend can only truely do.
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Clark has the right to voice his opinion, but Chloe gets the final say.
Yep, in a nutshell.
Mars Investigations
02-22-2008, 01:28 PM
No.
Clark can offer his opinion as her friend and a fellow superhuman, but he can't tell her who and when to heal. He has responsibilities for his own powers; she's good enough to handle hers, too.
All about Clark
02-22-2008, 02:35 PM
I think it's quite sweet how the two of them discuss important matters, always considering the consequences and what is best. And they clearly understand that Clark has the final say on his powers and Chloe has the final say on hers. I wouldn't change a thing. I think Clark's biggest concern is that she could die for him and he doesn't want that. It was necessary for him to get that off his chest.
4CHLicks
02-22-2008, 02:46 PM
Uh, no... :confused: And he's smart enough to know better than to try!
Jaderoyale
02-22-2008, 04:20 PM
No, he really shouldn't have a say. Its Chloes power, her ability, and she is full aware of the consequences that come with it.
He can however express his concern and advice as her best friend
Just like he did when she said she'd heal Lex, he said no, he didn't want her to do it. But she still did, yes prehaps more because Clark was in danger, but it was her choice, and Clarks word can't stop that.
chlo-el
02-22-2008, 04:52 PM
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Technically it was his planet that the meteors that infected her came from. So that makes him like part owner of the power.
He could become her manager. Make appointments for the people who want healing or resurrecting. Make decisions on prices.
$300 to heal a scraped knee. $10,000 for resurrections. And they split everything 50/50.
:lol:
Seriously though. Does Clark really have the right to tell Chloe what she can and cannot do with her power?
:rotfl::rotfl:
yeah Clark can be her agent and she can be his. She cand have him perform his talents at parties. Just kidding.
I never thought about Clark having ownership of her powers because the Kryptonite is from his planet. Although I have thought that Clark would feel undeservingly guilty. Like her powers was his fault.
I think Chloe's power is her choice and Clark can giver input just like Chloe has given Clark input and how he should use his power.
Clark has been really possive and overprotective of her lately though. I was surprised to actually see him agree with her that it was her choice. I don't think he wanted to agree w/her. I understand why he just doesn't want her next death to pernament.
Maddie Van Horn
02-22-2008, 04:56 PM
though i do approve of clark trying to protect chloe, i think he shouldn't interfere with her using her powers. he can advise her and try to help, but ultimately it's her decision to make. just like she dosen't tell him how to use his powers.
ChlarkCandy
02-25-2008, 12:05 PM
Clark DOES NOT have a choice on if Chloe uses her power and he knows that. But the question should be does he want to have a choice? Yes he does. Clark is clearly protective and as seen in 'Siren' possessive of Chloe. He wants her to refrain from using her meteor ability, and definitely wouldn't want her to use it to save him. He was almost smug at the idea that she wouldn't use it again. I saw him trying to hide that smile after she said that it was important that they both stayed alive. (Yes I know foreshadowing) Anyhoo, he doesn't want Chloe to use her ability on him and he actually has a say in that, BUT would she listen....um...NO not really, especially if he can't speak or move writhing in pain and dying in front of her. So either way Clark doesn't have a choice.
Khyla
02-25-2008, 03:16 PM
i think he, or , both of them, are realizing they have a certain responsibility towards each other. in the same way a parent and child, or husband and wife have towards one another.
A "responsible" parent or spouse would think of the other person and consider the risks involved before jumping into a potentially dangerous situation. And Chloe and Clark each have a deep commitment to one another based on their own unique ways in which they can truly help out the other in dire circumstances (proved to us, and them, in past events)
So, in a way they should and do feel that they have a say in just how far the other should take a risk. There's also an element of deep caring and love between them to take into account, and how badly off one would be without the other. IMO :)
Super_Kara_2007
02-25-2008, 03:20 PM
No. But even still they both tell each other how they feel when it comes to them using their powers even though when it comes down to it it's their own choice to make. That's because they always look out for each other.
ChlarkCandy
02-25-2008, 03:31 PM
I agree with Khyla.
Khyla
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
He was almost smug at the idea that she wouldn't use it again. ...
YES I saw that too! :)
..I saw him trying to hide that smile after she said that it was important that they both stayed alive. (Yes I know foreshadowing) Anyhoo, he doesn't want Chloe to use her ability on him and he actually has a say in that, BUT would she listen....um...NO not really, especially if he can't speak or move writhing in pain and dying in front of her. So either way Clark doesn't have a choice.
Agree!
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I agree with Khyla.
:)
ChlarkCandy
02-25-2008, 04:04 PM
Why thank you Khyla. I agree with your agreement.:D ....to um my agreeing
Lazy Boy
02-26-2008, 01:57 AM
i think he, or , both of them, are realizing they have a certain responsibility towards each other. in the same way a parent and child
I thought that scene when Clark was telling off Chloe for using her powers sounds very much like a mother scolding her child:
"You must never use your powers again, you naughty, naughty girl!"
By the way don't take this comment on how I see their relationship, but it was the way he deliver that line.
To the topic, I don't think he should be telling her what to do with her powers but he is free to voice his concerns.
constantine
02-26-2008, 02:33 AM
Clark has the right to voice his opinion, but Chloe gets the final say.
Of course clark has that right, and because he's emotionally abusive in the show to pretty much everyone, I'm fairly sure they'll go along with him.
AndrewVDk
02-26-2008, 03:04 AM
i think he, or , both of them, are realizing they have a certain responsibility towards each other. in the same way a parent and child, or husband and wife have towards one another.
A "responsible" parent or spouse would think of the other person and consider the risks involved before jumping into a potentially dangerous situation. And Chloe and Clark each have a deep commitment to one another based on their own unique ways in which they can truly help out the other in dire circumstances (proved to us, and them, in past events)
So, in a way they should and do feel that they have a say in just how far the other should take a risk. There's also an element of deep caring and love between them to take into account, and how badly off one would be without the other. IMO :)
I agree!! :D
smallvillecrazygurl04
02-26-2008, 03:23 PM
I think he shouldn't have his say in the matter. After all, it is Chloe's choice weather or not to use her ability... despite the fact that it had to do with saying someone as selfish as Lex Luthor; whatever the case maybe, I think it's Chloe's call reguarding her powers and Clark has no right to get in the middle of that. If it comes to giving his best friend advice, that's fine.. but other than that Clark should mind his own business.
All about Clark
02-26-2008, 05:12 PM
So, in a way they should and do feel that they have a say in just how far the other should take a risk. There's also an element of deep caring and love between them to take into account, and how badly off one would be without the other. IMO :)
I agree, I think Clark realizes how lost he would be without Chloe. And he's already had someone die for him and I don't think he could take it again.
I like the smug comment someone used, and when I think about it, it was smug, like in if she doesn't use her power, then I won't lose her.
My first thoughts were that Clark wants to have a say but knows he has no "rights" and can only offer advice and heartfelt request (i.e. please don't die).
But the parent and spouse analogy is apt. If this was Martha and Jonathon they would "talk it over as a family". Clark is used to that and I think he sees Chloe as at least family.
Spending a little more time on this analogy - this is just like Clark sort of had a vote in Jonathon running for an election. It was ultimately Jonathon's call but he was obliged to take his son's feelings into consideration. He was also obliged to take Martha's feelings into consideration and it was clear she was less supportive than Clark. Her decision to take the money from Lionel was IMO an attempt to assuage her guilt over not being as fully on-board with the election as Jonathon and Clark were. Despite her misgivings, Martha stood beside Jonathon in the decision. If Martha had thrown a "NO WAY" (which was not her style), Jonathon probably would have stopped. Why? Because Martha is more important to him that an election and he wouldn't risk his marriage. Martha did not throw the "NO WAY" because she knew the election was important to Jonathon and his happiness meant more to her than her worries. That's what love is all about.
So... in this scenario, while Clark considers Chloe as essential in his life, he probably struggles with his "rights". He wants the rights of "family" because of how much she means to him but he knows he doesn't have them as there is no actual legal bond or declaration of virtual bond between them. The other major (and in my opinion bigger) driver in his reaction is respect for Chloe. Just like he gave the argument to his Dad in Jinx that it was "his powers, his call", he knows for Chloe they are "her powers, her call".
Jinx brings us back to another family moment for Clark that he can apply. His parents initially put their foot down on his activity but pretty soon they ultimately backed away. The football issue was kind of the last attempt at reigning in except for Commencement. Martha made a plea for Clark to prioritize his own safety in the second meteor shower but Jonathon correctly encouraged Martha to let Clark do what he felt he had to do. Again, family gets to make a plea but it's the individual's call.
Bottom line: I think his experiences as a member of the Kent cabal taught him how to deal with Chloe's situation -- and suddenly he knows how Ma & Pa Kent felt.
All about Clark
02-28-2008, 09:41 AM
Great post, SueB.
Khyla
02-28-2008, 02:04 PM
in keeping with those thoughts, SueB, which pretty much voice my own, you can see why so many fans have the opinion that Chloe and Clark act very much like a married couple, not only in the way they support one another, but in their own feelings of responsibility towards each other, And not just concern for the other's well-being, but mixed with a little possessiveness, too. :)
Misskiss645
03-04-2008, 01:19 PM
I think clark doesn't want to lose chloe, but, she doesn't tell him how to use his powers, right? She'll probably do what he says anyways until someone really close to her dies, if that ever happens.
Sweetie
03-04-2008, 02:56 PM
No,it's Chloe's choice to make but,of course,Clark can voice his opinion.Chloe always has something to say about Clark's powers or his behaviors.
All about Clark
03-07-2008, 12:29 PM
in keeping with those thoughts, SueB, which pretty much voice my own, you can see why so many fans have the opinion that Chloe and Clark act very much like a married couple, not only in the way they support one another, but in their own feelings of responsibility towards each other, And not just concern for the other's well-being, but mixed with a little possessiveness, too. :)
Interesting comment Khyla. They do act possessive of each other and do share a responsibility towards each other as well. I don't think they act like a married couple so much as married to Clark's secret as in a united force.
Khyla
03-09-2008, 12:55 PM
Interesting comment Khyla. They do act possessive of each other and do share a responsibility towards each other as well. I don't think they act like a married couple so much as married to Clark's secret as in a united force.
and Chloe's new secret as well! He has an invested interest in hers now, just as she has had an invested interest in his. And while they both now share an opinion, a reverence and respect, of what the other can do for the world at large(which I think they've always shared, even before Chloe's power manifested), Clark seems to be coming across as being a little more on the selfish side, wanting to keep her safe, keep her with him.
nickyjean_1
03-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Advise yes, only because of past experience but decision making no..
All about Clark
03-11-2008, 04:03 PM
and Chloe's new secret as well! He has an invested interest in hers now, just as she has had an invested interest in his. And while they both now share an opinion, a reverence and respect, of what the other can do for the world at large(which I think they've always shared, even before Chloe's power manifested), Clark seems to be coming across as being a little more on the selfish side, wanting to keep her safe, keep her with him.
Can you really blame him? He needs her to bounce things off of, so that he's weighed the consequences and doesn't make a mistake, because his mistakes usually cost him quite a bit. And it's more than that. She knows all of his past, no one can fill those shoes.
Serynarpc
03-12-2008, 10:35 PM
Point blank, no he can't dictate her actions and choices. As we saw in 'Cure' Clark can take Chloe's personal decisions in stride and still do what he thinks is best for her. However, close friends constantly offer advice and counsel to one another- it looked to me that Clark was merely trying to point out that he wasn't willing to trade Chloe's life for Lex's health and answers to thier question- he'd find it out himself.
LexLuv180
03-21-2008, 08:35 AM
Chloe was taking a great risk, and Clark chided her for it because he was worried for her. That's sweet. Yet Chloe should have taken the risk this time. I mean, doing so meant saving BOTH Lex and Clark (2 lives), and therefore leading Clark to save Kara and Lois (2 lives). She was risking her life to save 4 people, two very close to her.
GENERALzod777
04-16-2008, 07:18 PM
7 Words. Should Chloe Have A Say On His?
pizzaguy19
05-05-2008, 11:56 AM
They have to hook up first. As Husband he has a right to be included. :P Chlark is the only way to stop her, Clark! Don't fight it!
Dominicus
01-09-2011, 08:39 AM
7 Words. Should Chloe Have A Say On His?she certainly adds her two-cents, but in the end no, it's her choice
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