View Full Version : Is Chloe a goner?
theotherJane
02-13-2008, 07:48 PM
Who's willing to bet that the next time she saves someone *cough* Clark *cough*, she won't survive?
I'd hate for AlMiles to go down this route, but considering they're boring and predictable (Clana anyone?), I can see them doing this.
BkWurm1
02-13-2008, 07:53 PM
They could come up with a non-mind whipe cure to her meteor infection or maybe Clark will do something to save her.
Mary Sullivan
02-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Really? I don't. Al/Miles did show in Reckoning that Chloe isn't destined to die at all. And of course, they showed Chloe suffering in 7 seasons and always made it clear that she'd have a happy ending.
Superman of Krypton
02-13-2008, 07:54 PM
They'll stretch out Chloe on the show as long as Allison wants to keep working.
G+M would milk the character to death before killing her.
Mary Sullivan
02-13-2008, 07:55 PM
They could come up with a non-mind whipe cure to her meteor infection or maybe Clark will do something to save her.If theres something i know they'll do, it's to cure her.
jazel
02-13-2008, 07:57 PM
her meteor power, just doesn't make any sense.:(
if she was 18 hours without a heartbeat, what happens to her brain function, and her blood flow ? everything freezes ?
Kryptongurl07
02-13-2008, 07:58 PM
I don't think they'll necessarily have to cure her. But I do go by the belief that Chloe is sticking around. At least, I sure hope so. She's my favorite character!
RepairmanBob
02-13-2008, 07:58 PM
Well, this week proved once again that KK cannot do exposition.
So long as there are big word to be said and absurd plots to be explained, Chloe will have a place on Smallville.
BkWurm1
02-13-2008, 07:58 PM
if she was 18 hours without a heartbeat, what happens to her brain function, and her blood flow ? everything freezes ?
Today 08:55 PM
Maybe she goes into a suspended animation.
harryandginnyfanatic
02-13-2008, 07:59 PM
That'd be a shame. But it does kinda make sense.
Chloe has died for two of the big three (Lois, Lex) already.
Who's to say the next one won't be Clark?
BkWurm1
02-13-2008, 08:00 PM
Whose to say the next one won't be Clark?
Doesn't this one already cover Clark?
theotherJane
02-13-2008, 08:00 PM
Really? I don't. Al/Miles did show in Reckoning that Chloe isn't destined to die at all. And of course, they showed Chloe suffering in 7 seasons and always made it clear that she'd have a happy ending.
You mean a happy ending where she'd give her own life to Clark who she loves so dearly.
harryandginnyfanatic
02-13-2008, 08:02 PM
There's also the possibility that healing a kryptonian wouldn't be the same as healing a human.
BkWurm1
02-13-2008, 08:03 PM
There's also the possibility that healing a kryptonian wouldn't be the same as healing a human.
Maybe it would cure her!:)
jazel
02-13-2008, 08:05 PM
Maybe she goes into a suspended animation.
is there such a thing ? thought that was only in cartoons.
just find it hard to believe, her heart stops (thus stopping everything) for an extended period of time, without some kind of
detriment to her actually health.
Mary Sullivan
02-13-2008, 08:09 PM
That'd be a shame. But it does kinda make sense.
Chloe has died for two of the big three (Lois, Lex) already.
Who's to say the next one won't be Clark?
When I asked Allison about this for the Season 7 Smallville book, she said that Chloe saved Lex because it was the only way to save Clark... so, really she was saving both of them... and by the way that IS the "Chloe uses her power again by season's end" that I refer to on the Spoilers page.
Craig words. She saved all of them and is alive. :)
BkWurm1
02-13-2008, 08:09 PM
Maybe she goes into a suspended animation.
is there such a thing ? thought that was only in cartoons.
just find it hard to believe, her heart stops (thus stopping everything) for an extended period of time, without some kind of
detriment to her actually health.
Well Smallville is a step up from cartoons (not by too much though) but studies in cryogenics are very real and if eggs and sperm can be frozen, thawed out, and used to create healthy babies I think SV could make the ability seem plausible.
harryandginnyfanatic
02-13-2008, 08:16 PM
Maybe it would cure her!:)
Clark's life force is stronger than any human's. And there are side affects to Chloe using her power.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-13-2008, 08:17 PM
That would make her super-dead, I guess.
:lol:
theotherJane
02-13-2008, 08:21 PM
When I asked Allison about this for the Season 7 Smallville book, she said that Chloe saved Lex because it was the only way to save Clark... so, really she was saving both of them... and by the way that IS the "Chloe uses her power again by season's end" that I refer to on the Spoilers page.
Craig words. She saved all of them and is alive. :)
Yes, but the main difference here is that she saved Clark's mind and not his physical state of being, so to speak.
If she didn't save Lex and he went on to die, then Clark would be brain dead, but he would be very much alive, just live on in a perpetual vegetative state.
harryandginnyfanatic
02-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Yes, but the main difference here is that she saved Clark's mind and not his physical state of being, so to speak.
If she didn't save Lex and he went on to die, then Clark would be brain dead, but he would be very much alive, just live on in a perpetual vegetable state.
That's not a pretty picture.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-13-2008, 08:26 PM
I believe the PC word is 'vegetative', not 'vegetable'.....
:lol:
theotherJane
02-13-2008, 08:27 PM
I believe the PC word is 'vegetative', not 'vegetable'.....
:lol:
HAHA...I can't believe I wrote that...and I'm eating baby carrots at the moment.
:lol:
Mary Sullivan
02-13-2008, 08:28 PM
Yes, but the main difference here is that she saved Clark's mind and not his physical state of being, so to speak.
If she didn't save Lex and he went on to die, then Clark would be brain dead, but he would be very much alive, just live on in a perpetual vegetable state.I don't see any difference here. And i was talking more about the fact that she won't use the power this season anymore.
And Clark would be in a vegetative state, i don't see this being good, and Chloe saved him from this. She still saved him.
Lostfan588
02-13-2008, 08:30 PM
After all these Chloe repeated 'deaths', I think any permanent one would be anticlimactic at this point, and unnecessary- it wouldn't help anything. Tptb will want to milk their original character for all she's worth, not kill her off.
Actually I'm interested to see what would happen to Chloe if she tried to heal Clark...I don't see how it would hurt her, anymore than Lois' stab wound, or Lex's gunshot. I think the "worst" that could happen is her getting healed and not being an immortal anymore. :lol:
Mary Sullivan
02-13-2008, 08:34 PM
After all these Chloe repeated 'deaths', I think any permanent one would be anticlimactic at this point, and unnecessary- it wouldn't help anything.
That's so true.
Was Lex actually flatlined when she saved him?
SalvadorianGirl
02-13-2008, 08:59 PM
No. Because despite it being longer than last time, she still woke up. And if she was to save Clark, what's to say she doesn't come back a few days later.
If anything this power keeps her alive because there's no way you can declare her legally dead without that possibility she might come back. It happened in Bizarro.
Lostfan588
02-13-2008, 09:06 PM
No. Because despite it being longer than last time, she still woke up. And if she was to save Clark, what's to say she doesn't come back a few days later.
If anything this power keeps her alive because there's no way you can declare her legally dead without that possibility she might come back. It happened in Bizarro.
Yeah, and 18 hours! 18 HOURs :lol:. And considering Clark's already known denial's when it came to her deaths in Lab and Bizarro, it would be pretty hard to convice Clark or the audience she's dead for good. Clark would just sit there...waiting....waiting :lol:
Although! I do think it would actually make for a pretty dramatic scene if Chloe did use her power to save him, against his will, and he thinks she's dead for good, pours out his heart when he thinks she can't hear, and then she opens her eyes and she's heard all of it. Now that would be sweet.
chlarkfan333
02-13-2008, 09:12 PM
No. Because despite it being longer than last time, she still woke up. And if she was to save Clark, what's to say she doesn't come back a few days later.
If anything this power keeps her alive because there's no way you can declare her legally dead without that possibility she might come back. It happened in Bizarro.
Exactly! Unless they retconn it at a later date, as it stands, we cannot be sure she will stay dead permanently even if she saves Clark.
Nospam
02-13-2008, 09:26 PM
When I asked Allison about this for the Season 7 Smallville book, she said that Chloe saved Lex because it was the only way to save Clark... so, really she was saving both of them... and by the way that IS the "Chloe uses her power again by season's end" that I refer to on the Spoilers page.
Craig words. She saved all of them and is alive. :)
When did Craig say this? :confused:
chlarkfan333
02-13-2008, 09:32 PM
When did Craig say this? :confused:
In the Canadian thread (this forum).
Nospam
02-13-2008, 09:36 PM
You mean the countdown thread.
Thanks, and thank you Craig. :)
jazel
02-13-2008, 09:37 PM
so, Chloe is gonna die ?
Lostfan588
02-13-2008, 09:40 PM
Yep, Chloe is going to die. Every time she uses her power, that is. ;)
Nospam
02-13-2008, 09:51 PM
so, Chloe is gonna die ?
I don't see how. She'll just lay in some form of stasis or suspended animation for a while and recover.
IamProdigy
02-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Question...why was she out for 18 hours?
Any significance that she was out for maybe like 2,3,4 hours in "Phantom"/"Bizarro" and 18 in "Fracture"?
InLove_with_Chloe
02-13-2008, 10:11 PM
You mean it's getting more difficult for her to recover???
Interesting.....
Nospam
02-13-2008, 10:14 PM
You mean it's getting more difficult for her to recover???
Interesting.....
Or that the amount of time Chloe requires to recover/regenerate is commensurate with the severity of the injury.
myankskent
02-13-2008, 10:18 PM
so, Chloe is gonna die ?
I don't know, but I have a feeling that something is going to happen. TPTB are really stressing the fact that Chloe is dying everytime she uses this power. Unless they do a retcon and Chloe can magically find a way to not die everytime she uses her power, I think there's a small possibility that Chloe will use her power and die permanently. I'm sure if she were to die, TPTB won't make it a waste. They'll have Chloe go out as a hero. I'm not ready to think that just yet, but like I said, I think that there is a small possibility of it after this episode.
SalvadorianGirl
02-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Any significance that she was out for maybe like 2,3,4 hours in "Phantom"/"Bizarro" and 18 in "Fracture"?
I think with both Clark and Lex flat-lining (and Clark being alien and all) caused the process to last longer.
IamProdigy
02-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Or that the amount of time Chloe requires to recover/regenerate is commensurate with the severity of the injury.
Are you sure? Lois obviously flat-lined in "Phantom" and so does Lex...maybe it's just getting too hard for her, it happened the same with Cyrus in "Visitor".
Chloe's first try almost killed her, and then healing Jimmy's finger gave Chloe a sting as, if I recall, it hurt her...left side I think because she was shaking her left arm afterwards, and perhaps if she had stayed "dead" for a full 24 hours from saving Lex, maybe she would have died.
SalvadorianGirl
02-13-2008, 10:22 PM
I think that it's becoming a small possibility that Chloe will use her power and die permanently.
That's the problem though. How will it be known that Chloe is permanently dead and not just going to come back to life later? There's no way of checking her medically and being able to declare she is in fact legally dead. They did that before and she came back.
Lostfan588
02-13-2008, 10:27 PM
That's the problem though. How will it be known that Chloe is permanently dead and not just going to come back to life later? There's no way of checking her medically and being able to declare she is in fact legally dead. They did that before and she came back.
I know. How will they ever know the max time she can go to? :lol:
Unless Clark like has to sit there and watch her rotting corpse, he'd never know if she's "dead" or dead dead. That's GROSS.
I do agree with you tho, myanskent, it is setting up for something that's coming, and I do think she's going to have to use it on Clark at some point.
I just don't think it's going to kill her. No, not that 'kill her', you know kill her kill her! LOL
myankskent
02-13-2008, 10:33 PM
That's the problem though. How will it be known that Chloe is permanently dead and not just going to come back to life later? There's no way of checking her medically and being able to declare she is in fact legally dead. They did that before and she came back.
Maybe if she really dies, something will happen to her in order to make it clear that she won't be coming back. I really don't know. TPTB need to explain what is going on with Chloe. Obviously she can't just go to a doctor and risk exposing herself but hopefully she will have some tests done on her to determine what exactly happens everytime she uses her power.
Lostfan588
02-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Maybe if she really dies, something will happen to her in order to make it clear that she won't be coming back. I really don't know. TPTB need to explain what is going on with Chloe. Obviously she can't just go to a doctor and risk exposing herself but hopefully she will have some tests done on her to determine what exactly happens everytime she uses her power.
Like her head would have to get chopped off or something...creepy! :rotfl:
Yeah, I agree with you though. This power is just...strange.
So far, it doesn't seem there's any sign she's going to be using it again anytime soon though...So I really have no idea what's the point.
Nospam
02-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Are you sure? Lois obviously flat-lined in "Phantom" and so does Lex...maybe it's just getting too hard for her, it happened the same with Cyrus in "Visitor".
I am simply hypothesizing, but I don't think I am that far off. When Chloe healed Lois, she died; when she healed Jimmy's finger, she felt a small pain.
Chloe's first try almost killed her, and then healing Jimmy's finger gave Chloe a sting as, if I recall, it hurt her...left side I think because she was shaking her left arm afterwards, and perhaps if she had stayed "dead" for a full 24 hours from saving Lex, maybe she would have died.
Chloe's first use of her power did kill her. Chloe was for all intents and purposes dead, and the doctors attending to her said as much.
SalvadorianGirl
02-13-2008, 10:43 PM
TPTB need to explain what is going on with Chloe.
Agree 100%. I just hope they do it soon since Craig said this is it for Chloe's power usage this season
myankskent
02-13-2008, 10:51 PM
Agree 100%. I just hope they do it soon since Craig said this is it for Chloe's power usage this season
It might not be, though, with the strike being over. They are going to make another 4 or 5 episodes this season so it's still a possibility that her power will come up again.
aqgalaxy
02-13-2008, 11:14 PM
She isn't a gonner IMO. I mean look at what she healed Lex from. A bullet wound to the head, verses Lois's stab wound...
She was probably out, for 18 hours, because she healed two people at once.
lastdaughterofkrypton
02-14-2008, 10:57 AM
Like her head would have to get chopped off or something...creepy!
Heh I was thinking that like chopping her to pieces or gutting her like Knox wanted to.
They are really setting something interesting she will wether find out that she will always recover (thus inmortal) or she will strain her body to a point her powers are not longer in use (That is not what happened with Cyrus?), she will find out about healers from the Kawatche and learn that she only have one more chance and die saving Clark or Clark will find a way to cure her because the danm girl won't stop healing people even at the cost of her life! Or she will just die and Clark will find a way to bring her bad maybe some lifeforces transference or something like it. Either way something is coming...
IamProdigy
02-14-2008, 10:58 AM
I am simply hypothesizing, but I don't think I am that far off. When Chloe healed Lois, she died; when she healed Jimmy's finger, she felt a small pain.
Chloe's first use of her power did kill her. Chloe was for all intents and purposes dead, and the doctors attending to her said as much.
I meant it killed her, can't believe I said almost killed her, but, anyways, still, her healing power is making it worse for Chloe, everytime she heals, it does something bad to her, with Lois she died, with healing Jimmy's finger, she had a pain in her arm, with Lex/Clark/Lex, lol, she died, but for 18...now if it was because it was both Lex and Clark, I would see like 8-10 hours, doubling the amount with two people this time, but it was 18 hours...something's gonna happen to her, for sure.
Nospam
02-14-2008, 11:28 AM
I meant it killed her, can't believe I said almost killed her, but, anyways, still, her healing power is making it worse for Chloe, everytime she heals, it does something bad to her, with Lois she died, with healing Jimmy's finger, she had a pain in her arm, with Lex/Clark/Lex, lol, she died, but for 18...now if it was because it was both Lex and Clark, I would see like 8-10 hours, doubling the amount with two people this time, but it was 18 hours...something's gonna happen to her, for sure.
I don't see how you can draw the inference that with each use of Chloe's power the negative affect intensifies. The first time Chloe used her power she "died." The second time she employed her power she felt the pain of Jimmy's injury. In the latest use of her power she also "died." It appears to me that the amount of time Chloe requires to recover is directly proportional to the severity of the injury.
aqgalaxy
02-14-2008, 01:20 PM
we can't rule out that how she healed Lois and How she healed Lex was drastically different. With Lois was with a tear, seems like a a drop of life needed to save a person. With Lex she placed a hand on his chest and let her power flow, much more direct, and took more from her. That is why she was out for much longer time cause it's a tear verses direct touch.
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In the latest use of her power she also "died." I appears to me that the amount of time Chloe requires to recover is directly proportional to the severity of the injury.
That too, she healed Lex's mind and the gun wound. So she took on the actual wound and the coma effect with it. His injuries were much more severe than Lois'
Nospam
02-14-2008, 01:30 PM
That too, she healed Lex's mind and the gun wound. So she took on the actual wound and the coma effect with it. His injuries were much more severe than Lois'
Precisely. Lex's injuries were far more damaging than either Lois' or Jimmy's.
Mary Sullivan
02-14-2008, 01:33 PM
Al/Miles didn't explain the power yet to make a little of suspense, i'm sure about that. And like someone said, it's impossible to know if Chloe is really dead or if she'll wake up after weeks, years..LOL it doesn't make sense.
I'm sure she'll use it again, but the fact that she cured two people, one not human explains why she was 'dead' for 18 hours.
jazel
02-14-2008, 01:34 PM
His injuries were much more severe than Lois'
not sure how any injury, could be more severe than death itself ?
Lois was dead.
did Lex actually die ?
aqgalaxy
02-14-2008, 01:52 PM
not sure how any injury, could be more severe than death itself ?
Lois was dead.
did Lex actually die ?
Death is death, but Jazel, it's how they died that was taken into consideration. Lois had a stab wound in the gut that she could have lived through if she remembered NOT to pull out the knife.
Lex had a bullet to the head, that's usually death instantly, but he survived the wound yet the brain damage left him in a permanent coma.
18 hours verses a life long coma... which one you pick?
Kalista
02-14-2008, 01:58 PM
nevermind
oberyn
02-14-2008, 01:58 PM
. . . then Clark would be brain dead, but he would be very much alive. . .
Hasn't this been the case since season 2?
Kalista
02-14-2008, 02:00 PM
^^Can't argue with that.
Lauren17
02-14-2008, 02:13 PM
When I asked Allison about this for the Season 7 Smallville book, she said that Chloe saved Lex because it was the only way to save Clark... so, really she was saving both of them... and by the way that IS the "Chloe uses her power again by season's end" that I refer to on the Spoilers page.
Craig words. She saved all of them and is alive. :)
So that's it. No more Chloe using her powers.....darn....I wanted to see her actually cure Clark, or someone.
I also wanted Lois to find out. Dissapointed.
sabi908
02-14-2008, 04:06 PM
Chloe saves Lois, Lex hmmm two major characters in the Superman saga
anyone see a trend developing here...the next one will be Clark and I don't think she will survive that... =/
aqgalaxy
02-14-2008, 05:19 PM
Chloe saves Lois, Lex hmmm two major characters in the Superman saga
Actually by saving Lex, she saved Clark too.
Dustmite
02-14-2008, 05:24 PM
She used her power in order to save Clark and he recognized that when he said what she had done went beyond friendship.
harryandginnyfanatic
02-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Chloe saves Lois, Lex hmmm two major characters in the Superman saga
anyone see a trend developing here...
She questions why she has the power.
"Out of the entire catalouge of meteor abilities why was I the one chosen to be in charge of such an amazing gift."
Maybe it was so she would save the right people.
IamProdigy
02-14-2008, 05:46 PM
She questions why she has the power.
"Out of the entire catalouge of meteor abilities why was I the one chosen to be in charge of such an amazing gift."
Maybe it was so she would save the right people.
Or...Al/Miles gave her that power, :)
Radioflyer
02-16-2008, 01:41 AM
Worse case, Chloe will mutate and be played by another actress.
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