Lex SAW the Kryptonian \S/ Symbol on Kara Kent's Bracelet!!

[Superman of Krypton]

In the opening scene, Lex noticed the Kryptonian logo...

This will pretty much reveal the connection between the Kents and the House of El when Lex sees the same symbol on Superman eventually (if Superman will ever come out of this show).

So much for secret identities.... or will Lex conviniently forget in the future (again)?

[IamProdigy]

You could possibly wait until the series finale for your answer...

just a thought.

[aqgalaxy]

I think it's implied that Lex would always have known who Superman is, and shows class as a villain for not really attacking Clark...

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Lex's memory will be wiped out and he will not even recognize Clark or remember that one special night, in the mansion, by the fire place, with snow falling...and soft music..and the red wine flowing...
;)

[Superman of Krypton]

Feels like Lex's mind is conviniently wiped every week..

[jayyjayy]

In the opening scene, Lex noticed the Kryptonian logo...

This will pretty much reveal the connection between the Kents and the House of El when Lex sees the same symbol on Superman eventually

Yes, this and when Lex sees Clark Kent's face on Superman oughta do it.

[IamProdigy]

I think it's implied that Lex would always have known who Superman is, and shows class as a villain for not really attacking Clark...

Having no idea if you're being smart or what, but I really like that answer, because we do know Lex Luthor does have some kind of class.

[xrayvision]

This episode was also historic in that this was the first time that Lex saw the "S" (on the bracelet). He saw it on the crystal when Zod was possessing him, but that doesn't count since it was Zod who saw it and Lex has no recollection of that.

He also knows that it was Kara's bracelet, so this means he will know that Kara is Supergirl. This also means that since Superman wears the same S shield, he will know that they are related. And since he will know that Kara is Supergirl & is related to Clark, he would likely put it together that Clark is Superman.

[Radioflyer]

In the opening scene, Lex noticed the Kryptonian logo...

This will pretty much reveal the connection between the Kents and the House of El when Lex sees the same symbol on Superman eventually (if Superman will ever come out of this show).

So much for secret identities.... or will Lex conviniently forget in the future (again)?I think he will forget and Lois will forget.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

there was also the key to the ship & caves that had symbols on it

there was the chest plate from way back in season 1 "rogue" that lex told clark represented strength and courage before heading into battle for the wearer

[theWatcher]

After seeing the symbol on the bracelet and knowing that the same type of symbols has to do with past events involving aliens it is probably the reason behind Lex's current fascination of Kara.

[MidgardDragon]

This episode was also historic in that this was the first time that Lex saw the "S" (on the bracelet). He saw it on the crystal when Zod was possessing him, but that doesn't count since it was Zod who saw it and Lex has no recollection of that.

He also knows that it was Kara's bracelet, so this means he will know that Kara is Supergirl. This also means that since Superman wears the same S shield, he will know that they are related. And since he will know that Kara is Supergirl & is related to Clark, he would likely put it together that Clark is Superman.

And he's seen Clark without glasses. Seriously, they've said they'll address the issues (in a recent interview) during the last season or last episode. There's no reason to worry about it right now, IMO.

[Billy Jor-El]

They'll address the issues? Oh, joy, more mind whammies.....

[xrayvision]

And he's seen Clark without glasses. Seriously, they've said they'll address the issues (in a recent interview) during the last season or last episode. There's no reason to worry about it right now, IMO.

I'm not worried. I'm actually pointing out a historic event in Smallville. Like Lex finding out Kryptonians' vulnerability to kryptonite in Oracle. I wonder if he still remembers that. It was before his Zod possession or acquisition of powers.

[Humdinger]

They'll address the issues? Oh, joy, more mind whammies.....

LOL, Billy. There could be a whole website for the issues they haven't addressed, like why in the hell nobody knows Grant's dead except Lionel, and then Lana cause he told her. And I'm prettttty sure the S was on one of the disks that Lex had in his possession sometime, but I wouldn't count on TPTB addressing that issue. It's the kind of crap they put in eps for a teaser and then leave us hanging.

[litew8]

^ I think you are right Humdinger. I think the \S/ was on the key (disk) Lex had a one time. Therefore, him (Lex) seeing the \S/ on Kara's bracelet goes to confirm (to Lex) that Kara is related to past occurrances - related to the disk. Related to alien technology. Related to what Lex believes to possibly be an alien attack. Maybe if Lex does retrieve Kara's memories, he will see that Krypton got blown up - but think that maybe it is reference to the fate of Earth.

[xrayvision]

What disk are you talking about? The key to Clark's ship? It wasn't on that or on Brainiac's power source that Zod removed from the ship (the one that was broken in a few pieces by Clark's heatvision). The first time we saw the S was on the S crystal Clark used against Zod (the one Jor-El gave to Raya, who gave it to Clark). That same episode we saw it on the exit console of the Phantom Zone. We also saw it again on Kara's crystal (the one she used to look for Kal-El/Clark). We also saw it on Zor-El's crystal that he used to erase Kara's memory in that 1986 scene of them on Earth in Lara (that crystal may be the same one Kara used to find Clark or may be the same one Jor-El gave to Raya--meaning Zor-El stole it). Those are all the times I remember seeing the "S" shield/logo. The rest of the times, it was the "8" symbol.

[Ardiem3]

After Lex got shot, especially in the head, and went unconcious, i think he wouldve forgotten that he saw the "S" but who knows. There has to be some big mind-wipe at the end of the series or something becaue Lex, right now, would have to be an idiot to not know that Clark and Superman are the same person.

[SparkleforSmallville]

The ships' key has the "8 in a shield" symbol( I'm looking at it ), which is the symbol for the House of EL. I think this is also the symbol on Kara's bracelet. \8/

[xrayvision]

The ships' key has the "8 in a shield" symbol( I'm looking at it ), which is the symbol for the House of EL. I think this is also the symbol on Kara's bracelet. \8/

No, Kara had the "S" on her bracelet. I wish they explained why sometimes the S is used and most of the time the 8 is used. My theory is that Jor-El created the S for his own family due to his strong ties with Earth and wanting to protect it. Zor-El could have stolen Jor-El's crystal and brainwashed Kara with it because the final scene where Zor-El is alive (the one where he sends Kara off to Earth), he is shown wearing a pendant with an "8" crystal on it. It should be explained that Zor-El stole the brainwashing crystal from Jor-El and that it's the same one Jor-El gave to Raya (who gave it to Clark). In addition to this, they should explain that Lara created those bracelets for Kara. That was the S would be exclusive to Jor-El's own wife & son and extended to his neice since she was loyal to Lara. This would make sense especially if Jor-El invented the S symbol to distinguish his immediate family from Zor-El's and programmed the Phantom Zone to only allow access to those affiliated with the S symbol (since Zor-El tried to kill him and he didn't trust him).

[kasealaine]

That's a lot for Al.. erm... Lex's mind to connect. Actually, one day he'll see Superman and just have no clue. "God, he looks familiar... like someone I used to know that would rain on my evil parade. I can't think of who that might be."

[xrayvision]

The thing that dawned on me tonight is that Lex would have to not know that Clark is Superman for the future to be properly set. I say this because Lex is supposed to think that Superman is a threat, and that's the main reason he does the things he does. If Lex knows that Clark is Superman, then he wouldn't think of him as a threat. Lex knows Clark and even though he doesn't like him anymore, he doesn't consider Clark as a threat against humanity. If he would know that Clark = Superman, then the same holds true. He would understand that Clark is an alien and has been on Earth for a while, but is not the cause of all that bad stuff that happened. He would blame the bad stuff on Milton Fine, Zod, and the rest because he would know that if Clark wanted to do something bad, he would have done so a long time ago.

This is why at the end, it would be best that they set it up that Lex doesn't know.

[kasealaine]

How will he NOT know? He probably won't know... just because. If we asked the writers, that's probably what they'd say. "Because."

[xrayvision]

Well, I have suggested one approach that could work several times, but they're 99.99% likely to never use that approach.

[kasealaine]

It makes me cry a little that I've read so many good theories on these forums... and they will never ever use them.
You guys should be paid by the CW to fix this show.

[litew8]

The thing that dawned on me tonight is that Lex would have to not know that Clark is Superman for the future to be properly set. I say this because Lex is supposed to think that Superman is a threat, and that's the main reason he does the things he does. If Lex knows that Clark is Superman, then he wouldn't think of him as a threat. Lex knows Clark and even though he doesn't like him anymore, he doesn't consider Clark as a threat against humanity. If he would know that Clark = Superman, then the same holds true. He would understand that Clark is an alien and has been on Earth for a while, but is not the cause of all that bad stuff that happened. He would blame the bad stuff on Milton Fine, Zod, and the rest because he would know that if Clark wanted to do something bad, he would have done so a long time ago.

This is why at the end, it would be best that they set it up that Lex doesn't know.

All I have to say is BIG DEAL.

http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/yell.gif

Seriously xray, do you honestly think that just because there is an \S/ versus \8/ that Lex (or anybody for that matter) isn't bright enough to conclude that they are symbols of the same origin. I was wrong up thread, you were right - the disk (key) had the \8/ and not the \S/. But what difference does it make? Lex knows that Clark was heavily envolved in the cave wall writtings. Lex knows that Clark made a family tree using symbols. On the family tree, Clark drew an \8/ symbol - it was HUGE - and heavily shaded to resemble an S not so much an 8. Lex stole the paper with Clark's drawings on it and Clark didn't know. Lex also stole the other drawings from Clark's barn once - if I'm not mistaken. Lex KNOWS that Clark is somehow related to the symbols. Now he knows that Kara is more than likely related to them too somehow.

If Lex cannot conclude that \8/ and \S/ are SOMEHOW related to the same symbols, and that Clark has been deeply envolved - SOMETHING is wrong with this show. BIG TIME. I think they've pushed the evelope WAY TOO FAR when it comes to Lex attempting to solve the mystery of WHO IS CLARK KENT. If they decided at the last SECOND to make it all just dissapear - I think it will be a massive flop - as far as originality goes. People will be seeing Lex Luthor in the future and saying "Hey, :lol: , there goes Lex Luthor - the guy that got screwed over in Smallville. :lol: He knew almost everything about Clark Kent - up until the last second. Someone yanked the rug right out from under him. :lol: What a fool that guy is. Not to bright. Not much of a genius either. Loser. :lol: "
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That's what I'm gathering. Maybe I'm way off. I know Lex Luthor isn't suppose to be the good guy here, but still. They're making it a little too pathetic (IMO).

[SparkleforSmallville]

Which episode has a clear picture of Kara's bracelet symbol? I could've sworn it was \8/

[litew8]

Which episode has a clear picture of Kara's bracelet symbol? I could've sworn it was \8/

The one we just finished watching. It looks like a fat S, not so much an 8.
If you can, go to YouTube and type Smallville,Fracture 1/4.
Lex picks her bracelet up off of the ground and then they show it for about 2 seconds.

[GuardianAngel]

You can see it in "Kara" as well. And yes, it's an S, not an 8.

[ClarksNextGF]

^ Actually, the bracelet's been in a few episodes - for example the season premiere they show the bracelet when she puts it on. It's a S. And Lex isn't the first person to notice it.

This is an issue that has been around since the beginning of the series. How can Lex/Lois/Lana/or any other character for that matter, be friends with Clark for years, then suddenly not recogize his face?

There is not a plausible answer for that - so, of course it's going to be mind wipe. Just like every time a character has learned in the past.

[SparkleforSmallville]

It is clearly an \S/ on her bracelet. I was wro....., well, you guys were right!:D

[xrayvision]

All I have to say is BIG DEAL.

http://www.ilsiciliano.net/MISC/yell.gif

Seriously xray, do you honestly think that just because there is an \S/ versus \8/ that Lex (or anybody for that matter) isn't bright enough to conclude that they are symbols of the same origin. I was wrong up thread, you were right - the disk (key) had the \8/ and not the \S/. But what difference does it make? Lex knows that Clark was heavily envolved in the cave wall writtings. Lex knows that Clark made a family tree using symbols. On the family tree, Clark drew an \8/ symbol - it was HUGE - and heavily shaded to resemble an S not so much an 8. Lex stole the paper with Clark's drawings on it and Clark didn't know. Lex also stole the other drawings from Clark's barn once - if I'm not mistaken. Lex KNOWS that Clark is somehow related to the symbols. Now he knows that Kara is more than likely related to them too somehow.

If Lex cannot conclude that \8/ and \S/ are SOMEHOW related to the same symbols, and that Clark has been deeply envolved - SOMETHING is wrong with this show. BIG TIME. I think they've pushed the evelope WAY TOO FAR when it comes to Lex attempting to solve the mystery of WHO IS CLARK KENT. If they decided at the last SECOND to make it all just dissapear - I think it will be a massive flop - as far as originality goes. People will be seeing Lex Luthor in the future and saying "Hey, :lol: , there goes Lex Luthor - the guy that got screwed over in Smallville. :lol: He knew almost everything about Clark Kent - up until the last second. Someone yanked the rug right out from under him. :lol: What a fool that guy is. Not to bright. Not much of a genius either. Loser. :lol: "
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That's what I'm gathering. Maybe I'm way off. I know Lex Luthor isn't suppose to be the good guy here, but still. They're making it a little too pathetic (IMO).

There is a way to get it out of Lex's head that Clark won't be Superman and it doesn't involve the S vs. 8 thing. Man, if I ever get around to finishing my fanfic version of season 7, anyone reading it will be convinced why Lex doesn't know. I have a brilliant way of doing it.

I would like the S vs. 8 thing explained mainly for consistency reasons.

[Doright]

It all comes down to this... I am certain that this lex will know full well Clark is Superman when he goes public.

It'll just make this version of Lex all the more dangerous.

[brando_2185]

It all comes down to this... I am certain that this lex will know full well Clark is Superman when he goes public.

It'll just make this version of Lex all the more dangerous.

yeah...i agree. I think it's all tied into the Veritas plot. It has something to do with the Luthors, Teagues and the Kents.

My theory is simple, but Lex actually knows that Clark is not from this world and that he's special, he's had too many investigations not to know. And he has a hunch about Kara in the same manner.

I remember from the Superman: Birthright comics...Clark meets Lex, I think like 10 years down the road when Clark is an IR for the Daily Planet and is Superman, and he recognizes Superman as Clark Kent in a confrontation because they use to be best friends when they were teens/early 20s, just like the show.

But he don't come out and say "Hello, Clark...I know your Superman!"...he keeps it all to himself, while coming up with a master plan to expose and destroy Clark as the Lex we all know. That definitely makes him the best villain...and dangerous one. But I'm sure the TPTB have a better way to do all of this because they knew from the beginning...how to end the show.

One of my friends told me the other day...he read an article somewhere with Al Gough about the fans concerns about the ending of the season 7 and the overall concern of the series finale, he said that everything will be addressed...all the loose ends tied up and at the end us fans will be cheering in the end. My friend said, the he read somewhere about fans will be talking about the series finale for years to come. So we'll have to see...

I just hope my friend didn't lie to me! LOL....

I believe the TPTB will really surprise us at the end of this season, as well as the series finale...whenever that is...but I'm excited!:eek::D

[Blue screen of death]

I remember from the Superman: Birthright comics...Clark meets Lex, I think like 10 years down the road when Clark is an IR for the Daily Planet and is Superman, and he recognizes Superman as Clark Kent in a confrontation because they use to be best friends when they were teens/early 20s, just like the show.

But he don't come out and say "Hello, Clark...I know your Superman!"...he keeps it all to himself, while coming up with a master plan to expose and destroy Clark as the Lex we all know. That definitely makes him the best villain...and dangerous one. But I'm sure the TPTB have a better way to do all of this because they knew from the beginning...how to end the show.
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i also believe something similar was done in a few older series as well. Lex figures out or knows clark is superman but his goal is not to destroy clark, its to destroy superman. Exposing clark as superman would not really provide much for lex, it would give him 15 minutes of fame so to speak but in the end most likely people will not care and superman after awhile could just adopt a new secret identity of sorts. Lex really wants to destroy the symbol that is superman as well as superman. Knowing that he's clark doesn't really give him much of an advantage in the grand scheme. Also was said that Lex has class and a code of honor of sorts albeit twisted he does have certain air about him when it comes to destroying the world. :rotfl:

[litew8]

^

Sound good. Also, they have recently said that if there were to be a movie made after the Smallville series ends - it would be in the future - Lex Luthor as President. He would tell the country that Superman is bad, and that Superman would have to fight to clear his name. So, everything you've said above, lines up perfectly with the FUTURE MOVIE.

[brando_2185]

[/QUOTE]i also believe something similar was done in a few older series as well. Lex figures out or knows clark is superman but his goal is not to destroy clark, its to destroy superman. Exposing clark as superman would not really provide much for lex, it would give him 15 minutes of fame so to speak but in the end most likely people will not care and superman after awhile could just adopt a new secret identity of sorts. Lex really wants to destroy the symbol that is superman as well as superman. Knowing that he's clark doesn't really give him much of an advantage in the grand scheme. Also was said that Lex has class and a code of honor of sorts albeit twisted he does have certain air about him when it comes to destroying the world. :rotfl:[/QUOTE]

yeah i meant to say Superman, but I'm used to saying Clark. LOL. For the show, though it would be to just ruin Clark's life, his family, friends...etc, and to expose him as an alien to the world for experiments and such.

[6-Super-Man -5]

It is clearly an \S/ on her bracelet. I was wro....., well, you guys were right!:D

Yeah its so easy to tell.