View Full Version : Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Fracture?
superhippie2000
02-13-2008, 04:08 PM
So what did you think?
lastwords
02-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Awesome!!!
LoveHurts38
02-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Gave it a 9:) LOVED the biginning it was very good...Did not like Lana's hair. Lois did great;) Just the phone scene was dumb:rolleyes: Not saying anymore;)
Alexander III
02-14-2008, 06:23 PM
I like the plot, it's interesting to see wut goes on Lex's mind, and also interested in seeing Kara and Lois talking to each other for the very first time.
MidgardDragon
02-14-2008, 07:01 PM
Gave it a 9/10. Not perfect and some of the slower scenes (in the real world) almost made it dip down to an 8. But everything in Lex's head was brilliant as was the confronatation between Clark and Lex at the end.
reobeem
02-14-2008, 07:03 PM
Pros: Good Lex, Kara, Chloe healing someone
Cons: Evil Lex, a machien that gets in people's heads, Lionle's evil side
I did enjoy the episode but it was a bit on the broken record side, I'll give it an 8/10.
DreadShamus
02-14-2008, 07:03 PM
The head shot was horribly fake. Clark not already taking Kara to be helped, whether by MM or at the Fortress was lame, and just nothing all that amazing overall.
What? Once again we are shown that Lex still has good in him and might not be fully evil? At this point, who cares.
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6/10
MidgardDragon
02-14-2008, 07:05 PM
What? Once again we are shown that Lex still has good in him and might not be fully evil? At this point, who cares.
People who care about plot and emotion and not "OMGZORZ REAL!" head-wounds.
clana4everfan2
02-14-2008, 07:05 PM
It's nice that we finally see Lionel's evil side. We haven't seen that since he became good.. haha. You can't blame Lex for hating his father.. Clark even felt bad for him and saw Lionel's dark evil side. Lex has become what Lionel used to be in the past. I gave it a 9/10 and liked that Chloe used her power. It was good to see her start to open up to Clark and have doubts about her powers. Crazy now Lionel nows about Chloe too. haha
DreadShamus
02-14-2008, 07:08 PM
People who care about plot and emotion and not "OMGZORZ REAL!" head-wounds.
Don't insult me. I just expect more intelligence than you do.
CallMeClark
02-14-2008, 07:09 PM
11!
I loved it! It was great! Frakking Fraktastic.
All the scenes in Lex's mind were point on.
rissaroo689
02-14-2008, 07:18 PM
awesome i loooved it.
Markd329
02-14-2008, 07:24 PM
Lex is one twisted mo-fo! But if Clark thinks there's an ounce of goodness left, he's got another thing coming. Lex is good only if he gets something back.
ClarkyBoy14
02-14-2008, 07:31 PM
I give it a 10.
I liked: Alexander, the Lionel/Lex/Lillian scene, Clark saving Alexander, Chloe using her power and then she and Clark talking about it, the Clark/Lex scene, the ending (too bad we have to wait for another month!), etc.
I didn't like the slo-mo/music after Lex got shot. That's about it.
MetroGirl06
02-14-2008, 07:40 PM
It was alright. 7/10.
beatles4
02-14-2008, 07:49 PM
Gave it a 10, loved it! Some excellent lines were delivered, a few humorous moments, interesting plotline, especially when Clark goes inside Lex's brain. Definitely thumbs up!
spideyfan
02-14-2008, 07:51 PM
I give it a 8/10
Pros:
Lara story
Chlark
Bad mofo young Lionel
Bad Lex
Alexander
Cons:
Lana (she can never do any good IMO)
8/10
There was a mix of continuity and loose ends - didn't think they explained or handled the whole Kara thing very well and CK was almost non-existent in this episode - for the main character he is sure not around a lot....... Was interesting to see inside Lex's head but we already knew he was twisted and that Lionel was not the father-of-the-year.
Overall, not too bad but at the same time - I wanted more about what happened to Kara and CK interacting with her more......
xHerox
02-14-2008, 08:05 PM
I gave this episode a '7'. While I thought the concept was interesting - sort of "Memoria" mixed with "Labyrinth" - I thought the execution wasn't excellent. I liked that we got to learn more about Lex's upbringing, but most of it was stuff that we pretty much already assumed.
In addition, there were one or two lines of dialogue that just stuck out as being exceptionally bad, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. Still, a good episode for what it was; however, I don't see this one being an episode I want to go back and re-watch too much.
jazel
02-14-2008, 08:06 PM
ranks right up there w/ Lab......ridiculous unbelievable nonsense.
HOW can ANY human, take a bullet between the eyes, and just lapse into a coma ?:p
xrayvision
02-14-2008, 08:12 PM
Without question, this was the best episode of the last 2 seasons (at least). Very well done.
quietone
02-14-2008, 08:15 PM
Great episode. More insight into Lex and his relationship with Lionel and Lillian.
We also learn that despite everything that's happened Clark still hasn't given up on Lex. I loved Clark going back to comfort Alexander before leaving to save Kara and Lois. Very supermanly moment.
It was also nice to see Clark and Lex have a conversation that didn't revolve around Lana.
Other good things: The return of Chloe's meteor power and its future ramifications, Lex continuing his investigation into Kara, and no Clana drama.
smallvillelogan
02-14-2008, 08:25 PM
This episode was extremely interesting in its own right. It's interesting to see another branch of Lionel's scientific experiments- which is about the point that Lex has gotten to when he says he can help restore Kara's memory (where he is actually going to implant other memories in her- but that's a topic for another day, in another section of this forum).
I loved to see Chloe coping with her ability, and talking to Clark about it. I also really enjoyed the symbolism with young Alexander representing Lex's good side. The writers told the audience that symbolism pretty explicitly, but that's fine. It was fabulous to see Kara again. Wasn't it awesome that her "name" was Linda? haha
warriorrenegade
02-14-2008, 08:30 PM
I don't know what to think about this episode. It had elements of Splinter and Labyrinth, which were some of SV best efforts. But put them into this episode for me just didn't work. For whatever reason I just didn't like the episode. Sure it had it's moments, but those I've seen before. Such as Lionel being mean to Lex borderline abusive, but that's been establish along time ago. Also Lex still having "good" within him, again another instance of deja-vu... I"ve seen these scenes already, in episodes that were far better.
Now I'm not going to totally dog the episode it had its moments. I liked the comic book esque machine used to enter Lex's mind, that was a gem. It was so over the top and perfect at the same time. I just really dug it. Also that little exchange at the end with Little Lex and Clark. About how Clark would always look out after him knowing that he'd always be in there. Just echoes of the future Superman always having Lex caught but never quite gives up on him. It was a nice touch. So in all I'd give the episode a D+ a 4.5/10.
Zungas
02-14-2008, 08:36 PM
I'm a little tired of seeing Lex shot again and another hostage situation.
Darth Pipes
02-14-2008, 08:48 PM
9/10. Awesome episode and Smallville has pulled a lot of them recently. Loved the look into Lex's mind. Lionel telling his son he loves him was too little, too late. He's done too much damage to him for it to ever change.
Now that Chloe's healed him, I guess Lex will have a whole fresh set of concussions to work with.
berniepooh
02-14-2008, 09:04 PM
The only possible improvement on Fracture would have been to expand it to a two-hour episode. With all the passageways and locked rooms in Lex's mind, it could have worked well. And, the business with discovering and bringing Kara home wouldn't have needed to be rushed. But for a one hour episode, it was excellent.
I gave it a 9.
coasterprincess
02-14-2008, 09:04 PM
An interesting episode to say the least
The Good
~Alexander...that little boy just tugged at the heartstrings "you're my best friend"...it was just so touching and made some of the flashbacks even harder to watch
~Lionel...a flashback to the true MB....plus the whole "I love you" scene really show his range and how far the character came
~Chloe and her powers....at least they're not making it some kind of cure-all, and are giving it a little depth by having her think about it
The Meh
~Evil Lex...I went bad and forth on this one. The "let's grab Clark and show him Lexana sex" was brilliant...but some of the other stuff just didn't fly as well while running through Lex's mind. I still can't put my finger on what I would have liked to have been a bit different to take it to a new level...but there was something a little off
The Bad
~Lana as the new pseudo-sidekick...I'm just not a fan
~Kara flashblacks...amnesia sucks I'm sure...but I thought they could have done a better job with what she's been up to (with Lex and what'shisface the busboy)
Overall...not bad at all 7/10
svtwamedfan05
02-14-2008, 09:19 PM
10/10! Loved the Kara and Lois scenes. Loved Clark being in Lex's brain. Loved Chloe using her power. Loved the importance of the Chloe and Clark conversation.
BadToad
02-14-2008, 09:37 PM
Lots of plot contrivances, WTH's, and important things happening in Offscreensville. But, having said that, very interesting premise for an episode. And Clark was awesome and very Superman-ly.
Gave it an 8
Lexgirl33
02-14-2008, 09:49 PM
10/10 Just cause Lex is in a white suit. Badass. No j/k This was great! Even if its "been done before"
Bryden88
02-14-2008, 09:52 PM
My opinions are mixed on this one.
I think the premise was good.
I think the execution was...
...I'm not sure if it's cause I've been watching my Battlestar Galactica DVDs or if this was just a really weak episode (and in my opinion the only weak episode this season) but... it seemed like it was rushed and well, weak.
I think my favorite part was EvilLex forcing Clark to watch the Lana/Lex scene. Why? Let's see... nice and... evil. And while I like that they are giving Clana a chance, it will sew some doubt into Clark's mind. I'm all for Clark realizing his destiny, and while I'm not pro/anti specific ships, I also am aware that -eventually- the Clana must end at some point, and I would wager the series finale of Season 8 will be that day. But in alot of ways it took five steps forward...
I just wish it didn't feel so rushed. Whoever said to improve this was to make it 2 Hours was right.
monel49
02-14-2008, 10:24 PM
Gave the ep a 9. Surely the darkest of the entire series, and here's the cool thing: as dark as it was, there's old Clark finding the deepest labyrinth where Lex has hidden his inner child who just happens to be good. The Superman mythos depends on Kal-El's having an almost naive optimistic view of humanity. That's why he won't intentionally take a human life--he always tries to see the good. Clark's got his problems, but what continually comes out in this series--and that's why I really respect this version of the Superman story--is that in an alien (outsider's) eyes humanity is weak because of its own sinfulness and weakness, but not evil. Down deep, humanity is good--flawed, but good. Every human is better than his or her's worst actions. We've all got such great possibilities. In the dark world we really live in, that's a pretty good message for everybody. Way to go Clark!
Lightning Flash
02-14-2008, 10:33 PM
I liked the Lex story: revealing circumstances of Lionel and Lillian, his battle with his past, and hatred of his father. Lionel also had an epiphany--showing his feelings to Lex, yet getting nothing in return.
I also didn't like the Lana-sidekick, that was Chloe's job, and now it's just weird w/ Lana knowing all this stuff. Also, I was glad Kara is back, and her story is told. Tho, we're left to wonder if her memory will be back, from Lex? Also, I thought Lex getting shot and into a coma was a bit too much, idk if it's possible to even live from that... but it did work well into the plot.
The Lex and Kara interaction has also been, hmm, leaving us to wonder whether they'll get closer, and if Lex has good intentions, or not.
ClareKent
02-14-2008, 10:44 PM
I give it an 8, it would be a 9, but the whole Lexana sex and the Lex/Kara flirting made it loose to me :(
lillie_poo_pod
02-15-2008, 12:17 AM
I gave it a 7/10. It was descent. There were a few things I didn't like or get, but overall it wasn't bad.
Kirstycol
02-15-2008, 12:18 AM
This was such an awesome episode. If I haven't said it before I LOVE LEX!!!!! He is such a heart wrenching character. It's so hard to hate him, even after all the bad things he's done I can't help but have compassion for him.
When I first saw him shot I was like. "That's it! Lex is dead I'm not watching the show anymore!!!!"
I hope Michael Rosenbaums career really flurishes, but I secretly hope that he stays on Smallville so I can get my weekly fix of that sexy bad boy!
Imzadia
02-15-2008, 12:36 AM
While watching this episode, I realized that I hardly had Any emotional response to the circumstances in this story. I was disappointed. It could be just that it's my own interpretation of this episode. At the beginning of 'Fracture', I felt like I'd just walked into a situation that was already well underway. That is how this story was presented, but I felt like I'd missed some very important information that was needed to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. It felt 'Flat' and too much like a rehash of another (or several) episode(s). I Hated the scenery inside Lex's mind. It reminded me too much of the damp and dank setting inside of Reeves Dam. Lex is very intelligent and creative, so I would think that his mind would be much more colorful, rather than endless, dark, colorless concrete halls that also resembled an old, abandoned building.
Also, it really bugged me out that Lex was 'airlifted' to Smallville Medical Center when there are better equipped hospitals in the much larger city of Detroit; not that I'm saying that small towns have inferior hospitals, only that the larger cities and the larger medical facilities often lure the best doctors and have larger budgets to afford offering them higher salaries as well as the best equipment. It just seems ridiculous to transport a critically injured patient to a less equipped, small town hospital.
It was the same situation in the season 6 episode "Rage" when Lois was injured by GA in Metropolis but treated for her wounds at Smallville Medical Center. It's probably saving production costs by Not having to build another hospital set. That's understandable, but when it happens it's so noticeable that it's blareingly illogical.
I'm sorry to say it, especially after being starved for new episodes, but IMHO, 'Fracture' ranks among season 7's weaker stories. And YES, I too noticed the "Veritas" reference.
Therefore, I ranked it a 6 which is still a higher ranking than I gave to "Whither", "Subterranean", Or "Fierce". : \
Sanilas
02-15-2008, 01:16 AM
Just a great episode, maybe one of the best episodes in smallville history
jimmyolsenblues
02-15-2008, 04:38 AM
i gave an 8, some good stuff.
good:
lex's thoughts, good but not enough
clark and chloe moments
lois and kara working together
lex manipulating kara
bad:
Lillian being mean to alexander
lana and the isis computer station
do3mire
02-15-2008, 06:47 AM
While watching this episode, I realized that I hardly had Any emotional response to the circumstances in this story. I was disappointed. It could be just that it's my own interpretation of this episode. At the beginning of 'Fracture', I felt like I'd just walked into a situation that was already well underway. That is how this story was presented, but I felt like I'd missed some very important information that was needed to 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. It felt 'Flat' and too much like a rehash of another (or several) episode(s).
Same here. I had the same reaction to the beginning. Lois's part was like completely pointless. More Lex and Kara would have been better. The last scene with Lex playing on Kara's anxiety about her amnesia. Now, that was worth watching!
Clark in Lex's mind reminds me of S6's Nemesis. Once again, some confrontation between the 2 men. Yawn!! It's like they are trying to hang on to the Clex formula. They've basically run out of story ideas for the Clark and Lex. I guess that what happens when you both fall in love with Lana. :rolleyes:
red_sun1938
02-15-2008, 07:47 AM
I gave it a 3. The lone highlight was the torturous scene with Lex forcing Clark to watch Lana getting busy.
The rest of it was just too unbelievable and contrived. I know it's a comic book series but I spent most of the episode saying, "give me a break" or "oh, come on". We all know Clark is a BDA but wouldn't the first priority be to restore Kara's memory ASAP instead of letting her go to the Talon and slip deeper into Lex's grasp? Seriously? Thumbs way down!
samanta
02-15-2008, 08:05 AM
I gave it 5. There were some good parts but most of journey into Lex's mind didn't work for me.
The good parts: Kara/Lex scenes, their relationship will be interesting to watch. Chloe/Clark/Lana in isis cave, it's nice to see them working together.
Some more informations on Chloe's power.
Lex making Clark watch Lexana sex was disturbing but fun.
Bad parts: Lionel could finally decide how he feels about Lex, last epi he wants to go against him for killing Grant. This one, he would do anything to save him and loves him.
Lois was pointless in this epi IMO. ED has contract only for 13 episodes, I think they could use her in some more productive way than was this one pointless appearance.
Zero chemistry between Lex and Lois IMO.
dunkman
02-15-2008, 08:31 AM
I won't pick a number, but it was a great episode.
Still, it would've made more sense to bring J'onn in to read Lex's mind instead of using all the risky machines, because that's what Martians do! I guess Clark wanted to save the day himself, but eventually he'll figure out even Superman needs help from the Justice League.
This was an even more a far-fetched storyline than usual, but if Kryptonians can save themselves on backup crystals, I guess humans can have mind-reading machines.
GaidinDre
02-15-2008, 09:05 AM
I gave it a 7. I liked the trip into Lex's mind, Clark still seeing good in Lex set's up the future dynamic between Superman and Lex.
My biggest problem was that for the first time they made me wish there was off screen development. When Chloe healed Jimmy I assumed she must have been practicing with her power off screen, but in this episode it was revealed that no, she never practiced, she just magically mastered her power. WTF!!!
Secondly there was no explanation as to why they even went to Lana in the first place. As ridiculous as it was for Lex to be in the Smallville Medical Center, Chloe was there and wanted to heal him. It appeared that was the course of action they were about to take, and then for no reason they were talking to Lana about Lionel's research, terrible writing. And as others have said, Clark not trying to restore Kara's memories didn't make any sense.
Those complaints aside, I was entertained and enjoyed the rest of the episode.
Jaderoyale
02-15-2008, 09:50 AM
I can't decide whether i liked it. I think i did. I'm not sure. Lol.
There were parts that i enjoyed. For instance, i know its a long shot, but i liked when Clark was talking to Alexander before he left Lex's mind. You could see the longing in Clarks eyes, to have the friend back that he used to. But i guess we know thats never going to happen, you can even tell that Lex kind of knows this. His response to Karas, question, "I grew up," is something i can't have imagined him saying last season when asked.
I agree that Lois' part in the episode was pretty pointless. I enjoy watching Erica when shes on, but usually only when she has something great to do, and a way to show off her acting ability, like last week in Siren.
I was shocked by Lillian being horrible to Alexander aswell. The way Lex has always spoken about his mother in past episodes, you assume that she gave him loads of attention and unconditional love. But it seems that he was just a pawn between Lionel and Lillians games.
And as for the Lex and Lana "sex" scene, i felt so sorry for Clark. As if in the back of his mind he doesn't wonder about that, but to have it shown to him. And be forced to watch it. Nasty. He looked distraught by the whole thing, which i don't blame him.
Oh!
And loved Chloe in this episode.
Dead for 18hrs. Nice. I'm starting to wonder, maybe she may end up healing again, and not come back.
Jaded Wolf
02-15-2008, 10:02 AM
Um... At first this started out stale because I was confused at the beginning. As the episode progress it made the beginning a little more clearer. All in all a decent episode. I liked it. The only thing I thought was cheesy was Clark's line at the end to Lex about there "still being good in you". What a complete rip off of Return of the Jedi. That's Luke Skywalker's line. I had to keep from laughing at that scene. I was expecting Lex to say, "It is far too late for that my son."
"Then I guess my best friend truly is dead."
The other thing is why didn't Clark take Kara back to the fortress at the end or explain to her what has happened. We are now left with Clark keeping secrets again and Lex starts back to manipulating her. How dumb is Clark anyways?
I gave this one a 8.
All about Clark
02-15-2008, 10:18 AM
I was dissappointed and gave it a 4. This to me was the worst of the season so far as I usually score much higher.
There was just way to much running down corridors for me. And why did Clark just easily trust Alexander? Why didn't we see the much needed talk between Clark and Kara? Why didn't he tell Kara to stay away from Lex? The whole premise of needing this machine seemed ridiculous to me, they knew where they found Lex, why not just start there and search from that location, Clark probably would have saved them sooner. And why did Clark stay so long in Lex's mind, I mean, he knew he was possibly dying, right? It was just very dissappointing, and especially after Siren which was so good.
Promise
02-15-2008, 11:03 AM
Sorry, this episode sucked. I only like Clark, seeing Kara again, and Lois and Lex in scenes together, but I seen this before. The creativity was gone in this episode. I gave it a 2.
loistickyfingerz
02-15-2008, 11:45 AM
It was a good filler. A filler, yes, but a good one at least.
Bosrudorfer
02-15-2008, 11:55 AM
I gave it a 7/10
I liked Siren better
I give it an 8, it would be a 9, but the whole Lexana sex and the Lex/Kara flirting made it loose to me :(
You are crazy. Those were the best parts. I never thought we were going to see lexana again. It was a really happy surprise. Also, Lex has so much chemistry with Kara. I can't wait for more Klex scenes. I was sssoooo blown away by this episode. 11! :eek:
Izzysand
02-15-2008, 01:08 PM
I give this episode a 7. I really was expecting something more. I don't know what, but something more. It felt choppy and rushed. The whole Lex/Lana scene was hilarious and the expression in Clark's face was priceless. I don't understand why clark didn't help kara out and restore her memory instead of letting her get close to Lex. MR great acting job as always and I agree with most, ED was pretty useless in this episode. I LOVE AM! Regardless a little dissapointed in this episode and still gave it a 7.
Maddie Van Horn
02-15-2008, 01:56 PM
I gave it a 9, it was interesting to see lex's nice side again...but he is entirely crazy!!! Chloe's death was cool, but lionel seeing her could have reprocussions...
I can't beleieve that lex is being so manipulative w/ kara! how much do you wanna bet he's gonna use that stupid summerholt technology to get her memory back!? that could be dangerous!!
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btw, what is with lana's hair and outfits?? last week the glasses, and now the bun and suit?? she looks like a teacher or somebody's mom!! lol
MidgardDragon
02-15-2008, 02:08 PM
I gave it a 9, it was interesting to see lex's nice side again...but he is entirely crazy!!! Chloe's death was cool, but lionel seeing her could have reprocussions...
I can't beleieve that lex is being so manipulative w/ kara! how much do you wanna bet he's gonna use that stupid summerholt technology to get her memory back!? that could be dangerous!!
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btw, what is with lana's hair and outfits?? last week the glasses, and now the bun and suit?? she looks like a teacher or somebody's mom!! lol
My guess is she's trying to look professional while at Isis, which is where we have seen her most lately.
superpal1
02-15-2008, 05:44 PM
Liked the episode alot. Love how Lex tracked down Kara and was manipulating her to go with him. Also liked how Lex was reacting to everyone at the end with no remorse-shook off the I love you and put Clark in his place. Then even after what Clark said to him, still goes to Kara to finish what he started. Lex becoming uncaring and evil really shined here. Always love Chloe-any scene. Clark was good too. The anguish in his face when confronted with Lex and Lana in bed was telling on how the relationship with her is as good as dead. Also Clark not willing to give up on Lex is true Superman-trying to save everyone if there is hope.
Darkcook
02-15-2008, 05:56 PM
I missed Lex's bloodrain with sunflowers and all... My favourite scene ever in Smallville. But I was very surprised when Lionel mentionned Veritas!!!!! This was great, very mysterious, after the seal in "Siren", this time we had a lot more! Can't wait for the 15th episode... What a love scene too^^ I also wanted Lex In White to finally kill Alexander, at the very end of the episode, as a terrible mentally symbolical cliffhanger... Well, this episode could have been slightly more revolutionary, but was very cool.
redraven
02-15-2008, 06:20 PM
Probably one of the only episodes that I've ever given a 1 in my course of watching Smallville.I mean, not only was it a terrible episode to air before another hiatus, but it was a terrible episode altogether!
The continuity issues were bad, even for SV standards. Lex ending up in SV Med when he was shot in Detroit? Seriously? He gets shot in the face, not even a scratch? Okaaay...and don't get me started on the whole Kara thing. lol.
If it was just continuity issues I'd overlook them and consider this a good ep...you couldn't PAY me to classify 'Fracture' as anything higher than mediocre.
The show is nearing it's final season...so tell me why, after SEVEN years Lex is still being painted as a "Poor woobie". Show me the villain! The real madman Lex should be! Not ...woobie Lex. I really don't think anyone wants to see that anymore. This is especially ridiculous when the trailer basically states him as a psychotic, depraved, madman. He just looks miserable and pathetic to me. *shrugs*
Speaking of what the trailer says...the only horrible, terrifying thing in Lex's mind was the *cough*pointless*cough* Lexana scene! :lol: Are you kidding? My biases led me to despise this episode right then and there, and I wouldn't hate it if they had instead provided some meaningful scenes from inside Lex's mind. Not...whatever the hell you'd call that Lexana fantasy thing. :lol:
For example, maybe find a way to show Clark from a memory of Lex about the fake pregnancy? Show what Lex did to Lana from his OWN perspective, I think that'd be interesting, and help the continuity issue a little. Or...I don't know, something that would really show Lex as being the daffy guy he is! Not some lame love triangle scene. There's enough of those as it is!
So yeah, 'Fracture', is season 7's 'Subterranean' (a mix of that and Wither) for me. Pointless, boring, and...right before a hiatus. Who wrote this? SOMEONE needs to get a job in a different field...honestly. :\
STFanatic
02-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Worth the strike?
Maybe a better way to pay the writers is by ratings and for good scripts.
InsomniacZac
02-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Wow.
No wonder RosenLex is leaving the show.
This show feels written for the sesame street demographic.
borednow
02-15-2008, 10:42 PM
Okay so today I popped in my VCR and watched my recording of The Cell, I mean Smallville... okay, you know what? I really do mean The Cell.
Once again Smallville was able to keep me in suspense as I tried to figure out how they could make the episode even more of a rip off of something else.
So Fracture was "The Cell" The machine that transports you into another's mind. The Surrealistic creepy corridors. The bad Lex running around hurting the good child Lex. Hell they even had some girl in white floating in the water serenely. Yes I know it was a memory of Kara but... the parallels are just getting ridiculous. I'm surprised they didn't give 'evil' Lex giant horns... By the way wasn't Alexander the evil one?
So on to the part that wasn't like The Cell. Clark enters Lex's mind in order to save Kara and Lois... oh wait that was exactly like The Cell. :rolleyes: silly me.
Lois apparently knows Kara, ahhh Offscreenville, I bet there was lots of wacky moments about the punch to the head thing, where Kara tries to make it up without admitting that she did it... and they have the same pant size. Did we discover that in a cute scene where Lois confides in Kara that while she too misses acid wash jeans, the 80's are over. By the way are there any theories as towards how Lois misses acid wash? She's 3 years younger then I am and I don't remember acid wash jeans... and my little town was about 5 years behind on trends.
So speaking of Lois, still no head kicking. At lest she managed to stay conscious the whole episode. However once again she and Clark had no screen time. Lois' entire job in this episode was to gain redundant exposition from Kara, we got almost the same speech in Lex's mind, oh and to pick a lock so that she and Kara could move to a place where they wouldn't see Clark rescuing them. How very sad.
Clark got to find out that his best friend is still alive inside Lex... wait didn't that happen in Nemesis? what happened with that? Oh right, nothing. At lest this attempt to rebound Clex got us to see that the Luthor mansion is still housing the local homeless population.
As to Lex himself... bring on the Karex. I think the girl's in love. Yes the Lex/Lana/Clark/Chloe/Jimmy/Kara polygon has just become a ring. Well at lest there is symmetry in that.
As towards emotional moments... I indeed was moved by Lionel's confession of love for his son. I know as it has been said, too little, too late. But I see that as the tragedy of it. As he becomes the type of man who can let himself love, his son becomes the type who can't. When Lex kills Lionel it will hurt. By the way what happened to getting revenge for Grulian? Ahh well continuity isn't this shows strong point anyway.
C- , try studying a little, oh and stop copying your neighbor's work... poorly.
PepsiMax
02-16-2008, 03:52 AM
I gave it a 7. A good episode - who am I kidding? It was fantastic. I loved every part except the Lexana scene.
wolverine316
02-16-2008, 08:27 AM
I gave it a 5. Kind of a boring ep for me. Actually any episode when we delve into Lex's psyche bores me. The only time Lex will be interesting to me is when he more than likely kills Lionel. Lois was not needed at all in the episode. It felt like she was just thrown in there for no reason.
MidgardDragon
02-16-2008, 08:37 AM
Okay so today I popped in my VCR and watched my recording of The Cell, I mean Smallville... okay, you know what? I really do mean The Cell.
You're right. Everything that is similar to something else is a ripoff. We should just stick to the stories that came in the early centuries since just about every show or book today can be compared to them in some way, and thus that makes it a ripoff by your definition.
It never fails to amaze me how people can be so ignorant about The Seven Original Plots (http://poesdeadlydaughters.blogspot.com/2007/09/only-so-many-stories-seven-original.html) around here.
blackcelebration
02-16-2008, 11:51 AM
You're right. Everything that is similar to something else is a ripoff. We should just stick to the stories that came in the early centuries since just about every show or book today can be compared to them in some way, and thus that makes it a ripoff by your definition.
It never fails to amaze me how people can be so ignorant about The Seven Original Plots (http://poesdeadlydaughters.blogspot.com/2007/09/only-so-many-stories-seven-original.html) around here.
There's no such thing as an original idea but there's always an original angle;)
Clark Kent- Lois & Clark The Adventures of Superman!
Blue screen of death
02-16-2008, 02:21 PM
it was ok. It was not great but it did not suck. Little alexander was pretty much a waste.... oh no's the evil lex is going to killl you .... haha hahaha heheh hohoh haha. What purpose did he actually serve? other then hide "here" there really was not one. Its not like he stoped the evil lex from somehow killing him or out witted him in some sneaky fashion. The memories of lillian were also a waste. ok lionel is gonna trow you accross the room after roughing up little alexander gee didn;t see that coming a mile away. I was hoping Lilian would atleast give some type of insight into lex's psyche sorta like lexmas. So lex and his mother were abused wooopee so are a lot of other people and its usually far worse. I was also hoping that we would see some memories of clark and lex together in some form to sort of show the way the relationship has gone and will be going according to lex's point of view. Kara not really believing clark was also pretty lame too.(this is assuming clark, kara, lana, lois and chloe all chatted in a cut scene or offscreen during the commercial) Ok you lose your memory have no idea who anyone is several people tell you clark is your cousin, family even, he can help you but instead she decides to go lex instead that was some hardcore reaching for a plot i thought. If lex had been sneaky and kidnapped her or set up a grand scheme like he loves to do i would have maybe believed it a little better but " uhhh i am like a rich guy and stuff uhhuhuhuh and like i can fly in specialists and stuff and uhh yeah i like wanna help but i really think your hot so uhhh how about those specialists? uhhuhuhuhuh then maybe i can like score huhuhuhuhuhuh. uhhh oh yeah "that which is lost can always be found again" uhhuhuhuhuh so uhhthat means i am like serious and stuff huhuhuhuh and i like won't hurt you or take ad... advan.... advan tag... uhhh advantage of you huhuhuhuh. I did enjoy the dialog with chloe about super here responsibility with their powers. I can see chloe potentially not coming back from saving someone at the end of the series which would be a sad day. I really liked the lionel and lex scene were lionel finally tells lex what he wants to here and lex essentially walks out as if to say too late i am far too evil now. The overall foreshadowing of how far lex has fallen and the overall journey to darkness, though not complete either for him, has taken him. So i really liked the overall story of the episode and how it fit in with the arc of the season thus far, however i was really dissappointed with how that story was delivered
Smallvilledabest
02-16-2008, 03:01 PM
it was okay 9
darkone
02-16-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm baffled about how many people seem to like this Episode.To be honest this Episode did nothing to me.Especially in regards to the Clex dynamic.I didnt learn anything that I didnt knew before.Lex was treated terribly by his parents and Clark is playing his Superman thing with not giving up on the good side in Lex.Besides Kara being back and Chloe's power we didnt get anything new IMO.That's pretty disappointing for a Lex centric Episode.And where the heck was Lana? 4/10 from me.
borednow
02-16-2008, 04:18 PM
You're right. Everything that is similar to something else is a ripoff. We should just stick to the stories that came in the early centuries since just about every show or book today can be compared to them in some way, and thus that makes it a ripoff by your definition.
It never fails to amaze me how people can be so ignorant about The Seven Original Plots (http://poesdeadlydaughters.blogspot.com/2007/09/only-so-many-stories-seven-original.html) around here.
Look I'm not one that usually *****es about stuff like that. When people where complaining that combat and labyrinth where rip offs of various other shows, namely Buffy and Angel, I pointed out several other versions of that same idea done by many a show and labeled them classics. However Fracture was too similar to the Cell. It didn't toss in a new take or original twist to the over all idea. It was just a poor mans The Cell.
redraven
02-16-2008, 06:23 PM
I'm baffled about how many people seem to like this Episode.
Same here. :\ I guess...if you're a huge Lex fan it's a good ep? I don't know. It sure wasn't for me.
RJLCyberPunk
02-16-2008, 06:28 PM
I loved this episode and how they delved into Lex's mind, it somehow reminded me a lot of the movie "The cell" for some reason. Still a pretty darn good episode I give it a 9 out 10.
I'm glad that at least Kara is back even though not 100%:D
Xanderman
02-16-2008, 07:22 PM
10/10 for me, one of my new all time favorite SV eps.
At first it seemed like we were going to get a lot of the same-old, with Lex getting shot and all (how many times is that now?). The whole scene was eerily reminiscent of Lexmas. And how exactly were they keeping alive someone getting shot in the head like that? Only a coma? Anyway. Also, the way they skipped ahead to later stuff at the start made me think they were going to do another over-done "flashback" style episode, where after they show us future events at the start, the rest of the episode shows the events leading up to it. Such a tired concept. But Smallville went a whole different and genuinely surprising and refreshing route, showing us the events of the immediate past through Lex's memories. Fantastic idea.
The world inside Lex's head with the corriders and doors reminded me of Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey when they went to Hell.:lol: They similarly opened up doors to find bad "memories" of the past (except in the movie's case, it was to choose which terrible memory or fear they would spend eternity in, heh).
And I loved the bit with Lex forcing Clark to watch Lexana sex, the sight of that will undoubtedly never leave Clark's mind. Lol, if Lana and Clark weren't already doomed, that did them in for good right there. Lana with Bizarro, Lana with Lex, damn is she ever damaged goods.:lol:
Criticisms:
- Lana was a computer genius/superspy once again in this episode, and it never stops being lame. I still don't understand why they felt Lana had to become Super Woman on Smallville. Always ridiculous to see her using spy or "intelligence" buzz words and such. Hearing her say things like "the entire project was spear-headed by Lionel" and "it was moth-balled six months ago" was beyond absurd. How the hell did Lana get so freaking smart? "Moth-balled" and "spear-headed"?? From Lana Lang? Wtf??? :lol:
- I know she has amnesia, but does Kara no longer have any powers? (Unless I missed something?) I find it a little dumb she hasn't stumbled upon them. Just because you don't remember being super-strong/fast, doesn't mean you'll stop being super-strong/fast.
- I wish we could have seen more of Lex's inner workings, didn't seem like we saw the darkest parts of him -- where were memories of him killing/harming or plotting to kill/harm people, like his own clone-brother Julian? It seemed a little odd Lex's darkest memory was of his father scolding him for opening his briefcase, and then throwing his mother to the floor. Then again, more than that happened, he also betrayed his mother. And his mother seemingly started to hate him, or love him less, after that I suppose.
Implications:
- Chloe using her healing power, "dying" even more than last time, continues to foreshadow a final end for her, reviving Clark no doubt. The only question is if she will be dead-dead after that, or just "mortal body" dead, transforming/evolving into some sort of higher being or something as some have speculated (similar to Kes from Star Trek Voyager).
- Clark seeing the "little boy" which represented the goodness still in Lex now gives Smallville a continued or "renewed" reason for Clark to continue saving the life of a man that doesn't deserve it. Clark saved Lex from the Green Arrow confrontation in the previous episode, however that was without this episode's knowledge, which to me doesn't really make sense. Clark shouldn't have cared whether Lex was killed in Siren.
- Lionel seemed to care more about Clark's life than Lex's at times. Does Lionel know Clark's future destiny? I'm not sure if they ever explicitly said for sure or not.
Other stuff - the music:
- Great music/soundtrack/score in this ep, one of its finest selling points for me. Music is so important, some of my all time favorite eps had a unique score, like S4's Scare. Thought I'd also mention that the Smallville theme/opening credits song is so dated and inappropriate now, they should have changed it years ago. It doesn't fit the feel of the show anymore at all. So many times, they establish a new or unique feel to the show in the intro, and then Save Me comes blaring on, effectively destroying the mood that was created entirely.
Once again, a 10/10 for me (despite some criticisms). The best ep of the season so far imo, and one of Smallville's all time best as well. (If only Smallville could always be this good...)
BadToad
02-16-2008, 08:01 PM
I guess...if you're a huge Lex fan it's a good ep?
I know as a HUGE Clark fan I appreciated the episode. He was wonderful in it. Very Supermanly. And I like when the show remembers it was supposed to be about the rise of a hero, and the fall of a villian. Not some lame teenage soap opera.
borednow
02-16-2008, 08:12 PM
it somehow reminded me a lot of the movie "The cell" for some reason.
That's because about 90% of it's elements were a direct rip off of The Cell. At the end I'm surprised little Alexander didn't ask to be put down so he could be at peace.
jazel
02-16-2008, 08:15 PM
gave it a 1, if not for Lois/Karalois would give it a O.
seems they keep "recycling", storylines.:(
can't they come up with something fresh, and interesting ?
InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 12:17 AM
Wow, 13 people voted '1', I think that's a new low.....
:lol:
jazel
02-17-2008, 12:21 AM
Wow, 13 people voted '1', I think that's a new low.....
:lol:
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
darkone
02-17-2008, 04:16 AM
He was wonderful in it. Very Supermanly.
Yeah Clark came out of this better than I thought.He basically rocked the last Clex scene IMO.So self-confident and determined.
And I like when the show remembers it was supposed to be about the rise of a hero, and the fall of a villian.
...and the girl in the middle.That's what this show is about and you seem to forget about this little detail.
Dustmite
02-17-2008, 04:31 AM
...and the girl in the middle.That's what this show is about and you seem to forget about this little detail.
Lana was never billed to be the girl in the middle but that's what she became and the whole plot derailed. Take Lana out of the Clex relationship and focus on just Clark and Lex and the relationship between the two is compelling. Insert Lana and it becomes a pissing contest. I know what I prefer.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-17-2008, 05:45 AM
Lana could have had so many exciting storylines of her own....... and what did they come up with?
The witch arc.
:lol:
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CK&CK
02-17-2008, 09:12 AM
Lana was never billed to be the girl in the middle but that's what she became and the whole plot derailed. Take Lana out of the Clex relationship and focus on just Clark and Lex and the relationship between the two is compelling. Insert Lana and it becomes a pissing contest. I know what I prefer.
This is so true. And unfortnately some don't care if it's a pissing contest so long as they are pissing over Lana. The same can be some what said for other characters, but no one is more noteworthy in this category than Lana Lang. In fact, it's not even close. This has been a constant for some time now.
darkone
02-17-2008, 09:28 AM
Lana was never billed to be the girl in the middle but that's what she became and the whole plot derailed.
Actually she is.Atleast that's what the producers say.There is also a reason why there is a so called Big Three.And people call me blinded?Seriously.
Dustmite
02-17-2008, 10:16 AM
Actually she is.Atleast that's what the producers say.There is also a reason why there is a so called Big Three.And people call me blinded?Seriously.
She was billed to be Clark's highschool sweetheart, not a toy that Clark and Lex fought over and passed around like an old pair of shoes. There are other ways for them to interact without creating a triangle in which the two male leads end up looking like complete and utter fools.
And Smallville was always supposed to be about how Lex Luthor and Clark Kent got to the stage where they are, not about the girl they fought and whined over.
SnowBird
02-17-2008, 11:17 AM
I thought it was a great episode with twists and turns that kept my attention. I have been visiting this forum for awhile and reading the posts and decided to join so I could put in my two cents. This is my first post and I'm glad to be a member. See you in the future and hopefully will add a point of view from a senior citizen who is a big fan of Smallville. Thanks:)
Khyla
02-17-2008, 12:48 PM
I thought it was a great episode with twists and turns that kept my attention. I have been visiting this forum for awhile and reading the posts and decided to join so I could put in my two cents. This is my first post and I'm glad to be a member. See you in the future and hopefully will add a point of view from a senior citizen who is a big fan of Smallville. Thanks:)
WELCOME!!! :):):)
i AGREE! i THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EPISODE!
I think it was jam packed full, like some said --it almost seemed like two episodes squished into one. Great scenes all around!:)
BadToad
02-17-2008, 12:55 PM
and the girl in the middle.That's what this show is about and you seem to forget about this little detail.
Why would I want to remember that which drags the show down, and turns it into a lame soap opera, and reduces Lana to passed around love object? Seems to me thats the part of the show that should best be forgot, and buried.
But actually, no, when I started watching the show, I thought it was mostly about Clark and Lex, with Lana as Clark's high school love interest. I always thought the idea of a love triangle between the 3 was lame, unoriginal, and dull.
darkone
02-17-2008, 02:22 PM
Why would I want to remember that which drags the show down, and turns it into a lame soap opera, and reduces Lana to passed around love object? Seems to me thats the part of the show that should best be forgot, and buried.
But actually, no, when I started watching the show, I thought it was mostly about Clark and Lex, with Lana as Clark's high school love interest. I always thought the idea of a love triangle between the 3 was lame, unoriginal, and dull.
Whether you or others like it or not is irrelevant.I'm going with what the producers say.There was a big three from the start.TPTB said more then once that this is the key triangle and it was played through the whole series.They just played the actual love triangle from S5 on.That might be the reason why you feel it turned into this but it was ALWAYS there.JMHO
superman2001
02-17-2008, 02:39 PM
i thought the episode was great, i really liked the scene where Clark, saved Alexander, from Lex, and i also liked the scene, where Chloe, saved Lex, My Favorite scene in the Episode, is when Clark, saved Lois, And Kara, from Finley, i can't wait to see Pete, come back, in the Next Episode, it is going to be great.
STFanatic
02-17-2008, 04:39 PM
[Mod Note] Lets get back on topic ;)
We don't want a shipper fight in here.
Thanks!
-Steve
borednow
02-17-2008, 05:04 PM
The more I think about this episode the more I hate it...
redraven
02-17-2008, 07:53 PM
I know as a HUGE Clark fan I appreciated the episode. He was wonderful in it. Very Supermanly.
I guess since it's supposed to be a Lex-centric ep I didn't even really focus on Clark and how great he actually was in the episode. :\
Even then, I still really, really don't like this episode. :lol:
ginnyfan
02-17-2008, 11:16 PM
"Fracture" was a good episode. But... something was wrong with it.
smallvillelogan
02-18-2008, 01:22 AM
"Fracture" was a good episode. But... something was wrong with it.
And what would that be? My teeny tiny complaint is how Lana all of a sudden is some sort of super-sleuth, which has been going on this whole season with her Isis program...
I saw the episode was loving it then the last scene just made me hate it! why wasnt clark filling in all the blanks for kara not just leaving her with an mp3 player its like giving lex pandora's box?!!!!!!!!!!!
Mars Investigations
02-18-2008, 11:34 AM
I gave it a seven out of ten.
To be honest, I was disappointed greatly by this episode. It left me feeling dissatisfied and it seemed as though something was missing. None of the characters really showed any real emotion to the revelation of Kara being alive, even though Clark and those that know his secret presumed her dead; for a plot that I hoped was going to be an important one, it was just brushed off in favour of a bizarre and somewhat silly jaunt through Lex's mind.
The main storyline, with Clark and Lex, was filled with unbelievable plot devices. First, Lex gets shot in the head, squarely between the eyes and only goes into a coma. Then, rather than utilising a previously established telepath like J'onn, a weird machine is dragged out of LexCorp's past (an overused idea, in my books) to put Clark inside of Lex's mind. The flashbacks with Lillian and Lionel felt forced, although I'm looking forward to the mystery of 'Veritas'. I wanted to like the Alexander vs. Lex idea, but couldn't...it just seemed pointless, and too freaky to watch Clark promising his friendship to a little kid. It wasn't as natural as it had seemed previously, with the likes of Ryan from "Stray" and "Ryan". The entire concept just appeared silly and contrived.
As I mentioned before, the Kara storyline should have been dealt with a whole lot better. And I would have preferred to see more between her and Lois. And I would have liked to see them outwit their captor alone.
The small amount of interaction we got between Kara and Lois was good though. The Lex/Lois dialogue was perfect, and the further exploration of Chloe's powers was something I've been waiting for.
Krypton935
02-18-2008, 11:57 AM
10! it was amazing! i loved it!
Psylocke
02-18-2008, 12:23 PM
I gave it an 8 just because I thought the storyline, even though was pretty good, wasn't meaty enough. It just seemed like it was a decent filler episode. I can't believe (well, actually I can) that Lex is taking advantage of Kara when she is so vulnerable right now. All of this fake talk of wanting to stop doing bad things after telling Lana how he was sorry for what he did to her.
Poor Chloe, having such a great gift, but not knowing when or if that gift will run out is definitely a hard thing to deal with.
I want good Lex back. When I was watching it, I kept wanting Clark to try taking Alexander with him through the red door to save him from Lex, but I guess that wouldn't work since Alexander is Lex's good side and if he left completely, well, that would pretty much let all hell break loose inside of Lex and he would be completely bad. I wish they would just be friends again.
I also felt so bad for Alexander when he was trying to cover for his mom after his dad accused him of going through his briefcase. Poor kid, no friends, parents don't show any love for him or trust him. No wonder he has such hate in him.
The Lex and Lana sex scene didn't bother me that much, just a tad uncomfortable, but wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I believe Lana saying she would always love Lex was just something made up in Lex's mind to upset Clark. I think Lana was always too miserable with Lex and may have loved him in a small, weird way, but not enough to say that and mean it.
Kal26
02-18-2008, 05:31 PM
I gave it a 10, but disregarded the side note, as I didn't give it a 10 based on "actually learning something", I gave it a 10 because I think it was a very well written, acted, and directed episode that deserved the rating on every level. I learn something in every episode of Smallville, so that doesn't figure into my analyses.
smallvillelogan
02-18-2008, 05:32 PM
The Lex and Lana sex scene didn't bother me that much, just a tad uncomfortable, but wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I believe Lana saying she would always love Lex was just something made up in Lex's mind to upset Clark. I think Lana was always too miserable with Lex and may have loved him in a small, weird way, but not enough to say that and mean it.
Well, then again, with a situation so passionate like that, Lana could have said something like that in the heat and passion of the moment- and obviously that is going to mean the world to Lex for him to hear that from her, so he will remember it forever.
Dean_19
02-18-2008, 05:42 PM
Hmmm 6/10.
Some of the scenes were good. Lex/Lionel/Lillian was good...
If Clark really wanted Lex to find his good side again he would put in way more effort than a few cryptic sentences. The whole lab thing? Absolutely ridiculous. For a start it blows that a procedure for humans worked on Clark and his physiology was shown like that..there is meant o be mystery about him!! Plus I think it kinda blows that Chloe has a more powerful ability than Clark.
The sex thing with Lana in Lex's head was cool, that is the kinda sh*t you would see that would mess you up big time if you were actually able to go in someones head...it was a good touch of realism.
But some of the premises they are coming up with now are absolutely mental..!! It's a shame, seasons 1-5 1/2 were so good...
Sarah J
02-18-2008, 06:27 PM
I gave it an 8/10.
One of my fav. parts was seeing Alexander and that Clark still was wiling to risk his life to save his friend even thougt he got lost somewhere along the way.
I also liked Chole's loyalty. She knew that she had to save Lex in order to save Clark, and I think that's why she did heal Lex. I mean Chloe risked her life, and I don't think that she would have bothered saving Lex if Clark's life hadn't also been in danger. Lex had her mother in 33.1, Lex thretened to put Chloe herself in 33.1, I know that Chloe isn't a killer but she wouldn't have missed Lex if she han't saved him.
borednow
02-18-2008, 06:34 PM
"Fracture" was a good episode. But... something was wrong with it.
It was missing a few things, like payoff, originality, Clark in a collar, smooth transitions, killer hair, a logical plot line, a Lexara makeout scene...
ginnyfan
02-19-2008, 01:29 AM
LOL! Thanks for clearing that up for me borednow.
borednow
02-19-2008, 02:15 AM
No problem ;)
redraven
02-19-2008, 05:31 PM
a Lexara makeout scene...
Gross! :eek: Just...switch Lex with Ollie or something! lol. Then I wouldn't mind.
What would be the name for that triangle? :lol:
Kal26
02-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Oddly enough, Kara and Ollie would bother me more than Kara and Lex. I've seen Kara and Lex together in the comics, but if she were with Ollie, I'd feel like she was dating her uncle or something. :confused:
I'm not sure how this works, but.....Ollara....or,....Kollie perhaps?
Or do you just use the first letter of the male's name like in Clana, or Clois? In that case I guess it would be Okara? Don't know.
ginnyfan
02-19-2008, 08:04 PM
Karollex?
Kal26
02-19-2008, 08:17 PM
Karollex?
I like that one! Is that what you would call it if Kara dated them both?:p
borednow
02-20-2008, 02:31 AM
Yes. Bring on the Karollex!! That's even better then Lexara!
I really liked this episode.
I don't care about the minor annoyances.
The clark and lex stuff was just great.
8/10
Psylocke
02-20-2008, 11:10 AM
Well, then again, with a situation so passionate like that, Lana could have said something like that in the heat and passion of the moment- and obviously that is going to mean the world to Lex for him to hear that from her, so he will remember it forever.
That makes sense too, especially with how Lex always seems so desperate at times to get someone (like his father) to love him.
6-Super-Man -5
02-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Some people really hate this episode.
the part where lionel told lex he loved him and lex didn't even care any more was also a great moment.
bobowayney
02-20-2008, 05:29 PM
i have posted this before but will post this again - Lex had his life saved by Kara,he obsessed in thanking her but now he wants to make her yet another experiment ? and is trying to her? he sure has issues in showing appreciation
ginnyfan
02-20-2008, 05:45 PM
Lex is practically salivating because he is so close to CLARK's secret. He's using Kara to get to the truth about Clark. Both Clark and Kara saved his life in the same way. So I guess Lex has a hunch.
Kal26
02-20-2008, 05:54 PM
Not to mention seeing what he knows is a kryptonian symbol on her bracelet.
ginnyfan
02-20-2008, 06:19 PM
LOL! I guess that's a pretty big giveaway. *slaps forehead*
Kal26
02-20-2008, 07:04 PM
I really don't see how they can keep this going. I have the feeling that Lex will eventually find out about Clark.
ginnyfan
02-20-2008, 07:15 PM
I really want Lex to beat Clark up with his green K ring again. *sigh* I should watch Oynx. Maybe Clark will give Lex a memory kiss. :p
smallvillelogan
02-21-2008, 04:17 PM
That makes sense too, especially with how Lex always seems so desperate at times to get someone (like his father) to love him.
Exactly! :lol:
I really liked the scene where FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN THE SERIES LIONEL TELLS LEX THAT HE LOVES HIM. That was pretty pivotal. I must say that I got slightly misty-eyed. :\
Mr.lexy
02-21-2008, 04:43 PM
i gave it a 9. it was pretty good beside the part where lex gets shot IN the head and somehow survives the trip from detroit to met.
it was good to see a very evil lex. laughing hystericaly, lexana sex. it was a nice touch to the whole epi. but what i dont get was when the medical peolpe picked up lex why didnt they see lois and kara who were just a few feet away from locked up in that pen thing. I dont know maybe im going crazy but i didnt understand that.
and lex and kara should not get together. that would be just like lex and lana. gag.
borednow
02-22-2008, 01:00 AM
it was a nice touch to the whole epi. but what i dont get was when the medical peolpe picked up lex why didnt they see lois and kara who were just a few feet away from locked up in that pen thing. I dont know maybe im going crazy but i didnt understand that.
Okay Finley left in his car and came back. So I think biased on the evidence he took the "body" somewhere and dumped it. The someone found it, Lex was rescued.
and lex and kara should not get together. that would be just like lex and lana. gag.
... Fake baby! Fake baby! Fake baby!
TalosTrokair
02-22-2008, 08:01 AM
SPOILERS - One of the worst written episodes to date.
HOLES :
Lex gets shot in the head and then dragged off and dumped in a ditch. This happens in the dark in Detroit.
For him to be in Smallville or Metropolis and it still be night would mean thats he's INSTANTLY found and shipped to .. NOT a Detroit Hospital??? They sent him to Smallville/Metropolis? SURE THEY DID. They sent a guy with a bullet in his head several states away. TERRIBLE WRITING.
More HOLES
When did Superman become the worlds biggest loser? He is sleeping with Lana who admitted she doesn't love him. He has put up with so much crap from that piece of trash that its just beyond believable. Its like Clark is some moron who lets trailor trash walk all over him. Lana marries Lex, gets pregnant, loses the baby, sleeps with Bizzaro, admits to loving Bizzaro more than Clark and lies to Clark like 2000000 times. Yet Clark just frowns and goes on about his day as Lana apparently turns into James Bond and Chloe becomes the greatest Hacker in the history of the planet. Beyond idiocy. The writers should go on strike - permanently. I love Smallville and they are tearing it apart with this crap writing.
Holes in heads - of the writers...
Since when did Clark just let his family "wing it"? He doesn't IMMEDIATELY tell Kara about their ancestry? He doesn't warn her that Lex is going to try and pull something over on her? He just feeds her to the wolves? WHAT THE HECK? Who is writing this crap and why are they still employed? Clark would have taken Kara to the Fortress or sought out Loinel as the "Sage" to try and cure Kara's lost memory. He would have tested her to see why her powers are gone. He wouldn't just say " Okay.. have fun at the coffee shop.. you and Lex should hook up and screw my life up even more. I'm gonna go over here and be cheated on and lied to by Lana some more so I can look like more of a tool."
Let it end.. or make it right. Stop writing this absolute CRAP. Call me up and bring me on set to view these scripts before you waste your time filming them so I can tell you how much crap you are screwing up.
SIGH - It had such potential.
Mr.lexy
02-22-2008, 10:47 AM
thanks for the explianation. i guess i missed that part.
wow he was in a ditch and some who survived to get to smallville thats dumb.
Mars Investigations
02-22-2008, 12:04 PM
SPOILERS - One of the worst written episodes to date.
HOLES :
Lex gets shot in the head and then dragged off and dumped in a ditch. This happens in the dark in Detroit.
For him to be in Smallville or Metropolis and it still be night would mean thats he's INSTANTLY found and shipped to .. NOT a Detroit Hospital??? They sent him to Smallville/Metropolis? SURE THEY DID. They sent a guy with a bullet in his head several states away. TERRIBLE WRITING.
More HOLES
When did Superman become the worlds biggest loser? He is sleeping with Lana who admitted she doesn't love him. He has put up with so much crap from that piece of trash that its just beyond believable. Its like Clark is some moron who lets trailor trash walk all over him. Lana marries Lex, gets pregnant, loses the baby, sleeps with Bizzaro, admits to loving Bizzaro more than Clark and lies to Clark like 2000000 times. Yet Clark just frowns and goes on about his day as Lana apparently turns into James Bond and Chloe becomes the greatest Hacker in the history of the planet. Beyond idiocy. The writers should go on strike - permanently. I love Smallville and they are tearing it apart with this crap writing.
Holes in heads - of the writers...
Since when did Clark just let his family "wing it"? He doesn't IMMEDIATELY tell Kara about their ancestry? He doesn't warn her that Lex is going to try and pull something over on her? He just feeds her to the wolves? WHAT THE HECK? Who is writing this crap and why are they still employed? Clark would have taken Kara to the Fortress or sought out Loinel as the "Sage" to try and cure Kara's lost memory. He would have tested her to see why her powers are gone. He wouldn't just say " Okay.. have fun at the coffee shop.. you and Lex should hook up and screw my life up even more. I'm gonna go over here and be cheated on and lied to by Lana some more so I can look like more of a tool."
Let it end.. or make it right. Stop writing this absolute CRAP. Call me up and bring me on set to view these scripts before you waste your time filming them so I can tell you how much crap you are screwing up.
SIGH - It had such potential.
While I agree with most of this (especially the Kara part; he would definitely have taken her to the Fortress and confronted Jor-El about what he did to her) I've gotta disagree with the Clark/Lana point you made.
True, Lana has lied to him...but he spent six years lying to her. That's got to even out somewhere. The whole point of that story is that they've both done so many nasty things to each other (Clark hiding his secret, Lana marrying Lex, Clark separating from Lana in Season Five, Lana admitting that she loved Bizarro, etc) that it can't work anymore. It's slowly falling apart, but they do love each other, so they're just ignoring the fact that it's not working. Besides, Clark is a good guy; he's not the kind to ditch her and run because she's made mistakes.
ginnyfan
02-22-2008, 12:19 PM
Okay Finley left in his car and came back. So I think biased on the evidence he took the "body" somewhere and dumped it. The someone found it, Lex was rescued.
... Fake baby! Fake baby! Fake baby!
Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! LOL!
TalosTrokair
02-22-2008, 09:06 PM
While I agree with most of this (especially the Kara part; he would definitely have taken her to the Fortress and confronted Jor-El about what he did to her) I've gotta disagree with the Clark/Lana point you made.
True, Lana has lied to him...but he spent six years lying to her. That's got to even out somewhere. The whole point of that story is that they've both done so many nasty things to each other (Clark hiding his secret, Lana marrying Lex, Clark separating from Lana in Season Five, Lana admitting that she loved Bizarro, etc) that it can't work anymore. It's slowly falling apart, but they do love each other, so they're just ignoring the fact that it's not working. Besides, Clark is a good guy; he's not the kind to ditch her and run because she's made mistakes.
You are wrong. When Clark kept his secret from her it was to protect her and to protect his family. The more people who know about his situation, the more chances that his family gets investigated and trouble abounds. INTENT is what is at question here. When Lana lies to Clark she does so out of guilt because of the evil acts she performs and because she knows that he is a good person and will not see things her way (the evil trailor trash way). She is garbage and he should have seen it LONG ago.
borednow
02-22-2008, 10:11 PM
Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! LOL!
That's the spirit! :rotfl:
Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby!
MissLane
02-25-2008, 03:57 AM
from my point of view, it's bad because of the timeline and the plot of this episode.... aagghhh...
hmm.. where can i start???.. hmm well, I think that writers have done lexmas II, but they didn't know HOW!!! hahaha
MISTAKES:
- To be able to achieve that Clark could came into lex's mind, they didn't do a great job with this episode, because, well guys...when that boy shot lex's head (hmm if you receive a shot like that, I think you would be dead...... its the first mistake) because I can't understand this because lex could had receive a shot in another part of his body, near of the heart or soemthing to be in coma, it would be enough, but noooooo, they decide to shot his brain.. WHY????? this isn't the most important to introduce clark in lex's mind.. well...
- Second point: lionel shows Clark and CHloe, the Lois' cell phone with the photo of kara and lex together, well...as clark doesn't know where kara is, but lex does, because of this, clark is introduced in lex's mind....... ANYONE UNDERSTAND THIS????????? because ITS A BIG MISTAKE cos Lionel says that Kara is in detroit!!!!!!!! CLARK!! IDIOT!!!!!! KARA AND LOIS ARE IN DANGER, YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN DETROIT!!!!! TOC TOC, THERE ARE SOMEONE THERE, in that kryptinian brain????.. YOU HAVE SUPERSPEED AND X-RAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but nooo....... you have to risk your life to be introduced in lex's mind to discover where is kara and lois.... THEY ARE IN DETROIT!! IDIOT!!!!!
BUT THIS IS NO THE END FOLKS!!!, NOOOOOO.... because writers have decided to ignore the time line!! (again)
because when that boy shot lex, he keeps kara and lois in the scrapyard near kara's restaurant, then that guy drives till the road and throws lex luthor onto the curb, and comes back to kill lois... ¬¬.... try to count the minutes because writers didn't do that, because IN ALL THAT SHORT TIME IS "ENOUGH" HEHE SO THAT CLARK, CHLOE AND LIONEL GO TO THE MACHINE TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE CLARK INTO LEX'S MIND, SO THAT LEX LUTHOR IS OPERATED, SO THAT CLARK AND CHLOE GO TO LANA'S OFFICE TO GET LEX'S INFO, SO THAT CLARK IS INTRODUCED IN LEX'S MIND, DISCOVERS WHAT HAPPENS WITH KARA, GO OUT FROM THERE, AND GO TILL DETROIT TO SAVE LOIS AND KARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't understand why writers haven't paid attention in the TIME LINE!!!!!!
They have done abig mistake saying that kara is in detroit, because clark is a hero!!! he has super speed and he would save her without being introduced in lex's mind......
I am very upset with it, because if writers wanted that clark were introduced in lex's mind, DO IT FROM THE BEGINING AND WRITE THE STORY FROM THAT POINT!!!!! isn't it??
anway.. I am very disappointed
THE BEST: chemistry between erica and laura!! the best scenes and Chloe sullivan power too!!! the best of the episode
the worst: the story!
the idea is good but not written this way.
eeris
02-25-2008, 09:04 AM
Anyone rating this episode above 7 must've been watching a different show from me :-/
Mars Investigations
02-25-2008, 09:13 AM
You are wrong. When Clark kept his secret from her it was to protect her and to protect his family. The more people who know about his situation, the more chances that his family gets investigated and trouble abounds. INTENT is what is at question here. When Lana lies to Clark she does so out of guilt because of the evil acts she performs and because she knows that he is a good person and will not see things her way (the evil trailor trash way). She is garbage and he should have seen it LONG ago.
True, but whilst keeping his secret from her, others knew. Some, like Chloe, found it out for themselves. But others - people he barely even knew in some cases, like Javier from the terrible "Subterranean" - were told by Clark himself.
Besides, Clark has spent six years trying to forge a relationship with Lana on-and-off. She's no longer the person he loves, and he's realised that, but he's not just gonna cut and run so quickly.
And by the way, I'm not a Lana fan. I'm just trying to justify Clark's seeming idiocity.
Superchica1203
02-25-2008, 06:00 PM
I dont know if anyone has metioned this before but i feel as though this episode was a rip off from The Cell. That movie with Jennifer Lopez and Vince Vaughan. It the same concept. JLo goes into the mind of a psyco to find the missing girls and in there she encounters Mini Vince (good child) and tries to save him. The same thing happened in fracture. Clark went into Lexs' mind trying to find kara and Lo and meets Mini lex and tries to save him.
borednow
02-25-2008, 06:37 PM
I dont know if anyone has metioned this before but i feel as though this episode was a rip off from The Cell. That movie with Jennifer Lopez and Vince Vaughan. It the same concept. JLo goes into the mind of a psyco to find the missing girls and in there she encounters Mini Vince (good child) and tries to save him. The same thing happened in fracture. Clark went into Lexs' mind trying to find kara and Lo and meets Mini lex and tries to save him.
I did mention it. Welcome to the club. :)
what a freaking rip off this episode was :lol:
...
Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby! Fake Krypto baby!
Xanderman
02-28-2008, 12:03 AM
I've never seen The Cell, but perhaps Smallville was purposely homaging it, at least in part? If so, it's not really a true ripoff. Smallville has homaged a lot of movies/scenes from movies in many of its eps.
Anyway, like I said in my review personally I loved the ep and thought it was the best of the season so far, and one of SV's all time best as well. Instant series classic for me.
smallvillelogan
02-28-2008, 12:03 PM
I've never seen The Cell, but perhaps Smallville was purposely homaging it, at least in part? If so, it's not really a true ripoff. Smallville has homaged a lot of movies/scenes from movies in many of its eps.
Anyway, like I said in my review personally I loved the ep and thought it was the best of the season so far, and one of SV's all time best as well. Instant series classic for me.
Personally, it wasn't a classic, but a very good and intriguing episode. As far as how it would rank in-season, I would put it as a 9 after Bizarro (10), Kara (10), Blue (10), Siren (10) and Action (9), but before Gemini (9), Persona (9), Wrath (8), Lara (8), Cure (8) and Fierce (6).
Basically, it was an average Smallville episode- making it a great episode!
Joe-Rel
03-08-2008, 11:46 AM
I thought I thought that "Fracture" was a solid Smallville episode with a very interesting premise. Clark Kent/ Kal-El going into Lex's mind to locate his missing Kryptonian cousin Kara Kent/El was a very creative concept. I liked that the evil aspect of Lex's psyche was tormenting Clark by forcing him to watch him and Lana having sex, amidst a firy backgroung with a mid- Eastern musical vibe. The passage by Clark through Lex's mind, also shows what an abusive and dominering father that Lionel Luther was. Lex is a byproduct of his corrupt enviroment, which caused him to be the man that he is today. The viewers also got to see a discreetly dark side to Clark, which was exposed when he covinced Chloe not use her powers to save Lex. If this situation happened 4 years ago, Clark would be more passive towards Chloe's decison to save Lex. I wish that Lana was featured more in this episode, becuse the actress that plays her "Kristin Kruek" is glaring eye candy amongst this shows male viewers, especially myself. I am very annoyed by the fact that each Smallville season has sevaral breaks between episodes.
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morethanmeetstheye
03-15-2008, 03:51 PM
I had some problems with it, which I posted in another thread...
But my favorite parts were:
1)Lana's kiss to an unreciprocating Clark. (Yes!! score!!!)
2)Chloe chosing to die (and maybe not coming back) in order to save Clark.
3)Clark deciding to never give up on Lex, and getting a chance to promise that to "Alexander".
4) Plus, having Clark quote Lex's own line back to him, and getting Lex to sit there and think about it.
Yes! That was a much needed strong moment for Clark to be the one with the thought-provoking statement who gets to walk out the door...something that they always have everyone else doing to him, so it was refreshing!
Mr. T
04-21-2008, 08:00 AM
Outstanding episode! It was great to see Kara return.
Cyclops1974
05-01-2008, 12:34 PM
First 5 minutes I thought: OMG :( No, not another parallel universe aleternate reality dream episode. With Lex being shot and apparently dead I thought: no this can't be real, get ready to hit the reset button at the end of the ep. But than WOW great show!!! Good acting!
KARA IS BACK!!! YEAH!!!
Not much else to say. Slow bits in between gave it an 8.
alejandrita439
08-11-2008, 06:12 PM
it was a great episode.. :)
smallville0001
08-22-2008, 07:01 AM
Going inside Lex's brain to find Kara was definately extreme, but a great way to make an all new episode! I loved it!
Nimkong
03-04-2010, 07:31 PM
This episode is good but not better than Labernyth.Liked how they found kara,going into lexs mind was tight.But the plot had nhing to do with what we were looking for.
annericelover
10-20-2010, 12:19 AM
I thought this was a pretty decent episode, aside from the "crazy busboy" story it helped to answer a few questions that fans most likely were asking themselves, like; What has happened to Kara? Is there any good left in Lex? How much has Lionel really changed? Although, there is one continuity problem(which I responded in the proper thread)this episode fits nicely in this season.
Although, the writer's strike hit this season hard, limiting the amount of episodes that were shot, it also helped keep the writer's consistent with the story arc, no time for fillers in this season and I liked that.
I especially enjoyed seeing evil Lex again and id find myself smiling at seeing good Lex(Alexander)again, even if he was just a child version, the innocence is there, the Lex that went all out to protect a young boy(Ryan)without any other intentions was shown again.
Lois in this episode was eh, she really wasn't needed, she seemed to just be there to provide a reason for Lex to not shoot right away.
Chloe's powers are again addressed as they really take a toll on her, this helps to explain why she never uses them again, but doesn't explain why they are never even mentioned. I loved John Glover here, Lex has finally gotten what he said he wanted long ago, to hear his father say he loves him and the look on Lionel's face when Lex walked away, he knows that the end is near for him and that Lex was gone. John Glover has always been the best on this series and episodes like this when he opens himself up are amazing, a true legend at work(yes the same man who created Poison Ivy in B&R)
BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
10-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Season 6 did a better job with "Labyrinth". I did like how we saw climbses of Lex' good side. This would have been a pretty good episode even. Like 8 but that scene with Lex forcing Clark to watch him doing Lana was really sick. I understand why Lex would do that but did we really need to see that?
SGuthrie27
11-20-2010, 07:35 PM
"Fracture" doesn't seem to be well-loved by many people... and I may not adore it either, but I think it did have some quite redeeming qualities! We got to see what was going on with Kara all this time, and her Linda Danvers plot was pretty cool. We got to see a Lex and Lois team-up, which hardly EVER happens for ANY reason. Connor Stanhope was an AWESOME Li'l Lex -- the best I've ever seen, honestly. Clark's scene with him were really cool, as was the last scene between Clark and Lex. Chloe's use of her abilities and the Chlark conversation were cool, too. I'll give this episode... 6 out of 10 mind-searching devices.
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