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LoisJoanneKent
02-08-2008, 08:37 AM
So, Chloe said Dinah is about as blonde as her. Does that mean Chloe is a brunnette? At the same time, Dinah looks like she is really blonde, but wears a dark wig. Wasn't Chloe blonde as a child? What do you guys think?

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 08:39 AM
That line was meant to be outing Chloe is a Brunette.

The line was in reference to BC. "The new Bad girl could be as blond as I really am." the new bad girl was BC, "could be as blond as I really am", while staring at Dinah Lance's picture. Dinah isn't a Blond thus Chloe's comment as "I really am"

TheANIMAL (marcus)
02-08-2008, 08:45 AM
Sinse AM is blonde, and she is the first ever perosn to play Chloe, she is definately blonde.

dunkman
02-08-2008, 08:46 AM
I think that line was meant to imply that Chloe dyes her hair.

Richichi
02-08-2008, 08:48 AM
I think that line was meant to imply that Chloe dyes her hair.
Agreed. Chloe outed herself as not being a real blond

samanta
02-08-2008, 08:48 AM
I think Chloe is blond. The little girl that played Chloe in Progeny was blond too.

chlo-el
02-08-2008, 08:49 AM
I thought she was talking about Dinah being a burnette saying she's really as blonde as Chloe is.

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 08:50 AM
I think Chloe is blond. The little girl that played Chloe in Progeny was blond too.

TVShows always retcon hair colors when doing flashback to keep the audiance aware of who the little person is.

But note, Moira was a blond in Tomb, they made her a brunette in Progeny so where's your point?

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I thought she was talking about Dinah being a burnette saying she's really as blonde as Chloe is.

agreed saying she isn't a real blond like Dinah

Kal-alien
02-08-2008, 08:51 AM
I thought she was talking about Dinah being a burnette saying she's really as blonde as Chloe is.



I agree. She was Saying that she really isn't brunette, She's blond. Examine the dialog between her and Clark immediately preceding that statement.

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 08:53 AM
I agree. She was Saying that she really isn't brunette, She's blond. Examine the dialog between her and Clark immediately preceding that statement.

The new bad girl was reference to Black Canary, and as blond as I really am was refering to Chloe comparing her hair to Dinah. Examing the dialog, and Clark looking at her hair proves that she outed herself as NOT a blond.

harryandginnyfanatic
02-08-2008, 08:54 AM
Brunnette probably.

It's not the first time it's been brought up. Didn't that guy in Covenent call her a bleach blonde?

Or maybe that whole scene is being misinterpreted.

It certainly doesn't explain little Chlo in Progeny.

Kal-alien
02-08-2008, 08:56 AM
The new bad girl was reference to Black Canary, and as blond as I really am was refering to Chloe comparing her hair to Dinah. Examing the dialog, and Clark looking at her hair proves that she outed herself as NOT a blond.

I Disagree, though I thought the same thing at first. Watching it again, I believe Chloe Realized that Dinah was wearing a wig, and she actually DOES have blond hair. Why else would she have tried doctoring the image on her computer if she Didn't believe Canary was Blond

It could go either way really.. But I just realized how silly this whole argument really is.

eas
02-08-2008, 08:58 AM
People can be blonde haired when they're younger and then have it become darker as they grow older.

I think Chloe probably had really blonde hair as a kid and then it darkened to "dirty blonde". And she helps brings it to a more "way blonde" color by dying it at this point in time.

But I have to ask: What's the big deal? I mean, Lana has gorgeous, naturally, dark hair & looks kind of Asian. Pete Ross is black. Lois is a brunette, with blonde highlights. Clark has green eyes (even though everyone insists on pretending they're blue). Jimmy's hair is more brown than red.

So, really, does it matter?

TheANIMAL (marcus)
02-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Chloe. Is. Blonde.

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 08:59 AM
I Disagree, though I thought the same thing at first. Watching it again, I believe Chloe Realized that Dinah was wearing a wig, and she actually DOES have blond hair. Why else would she have tried doctoring the image on her computer if she Didn't believe Canary was Blond

It could go either way really.. But I just realized how silly this whole argument really is.

I watched the scene several times too, if that's the case, why not say "she's wearing a wig Clark." She goes "WHy? Because she's not blond" then outed herself not being a blond either, thus why Clark looked at her.

samanta
02-08-2008, 09:02 AM
TVShows always retcon hair colors when doing flashback to keep the audiance aware of who the little person is.

But note, Moira was a blond in Tomb, they made her a brunette in Progeny so where's your point?


Moira was special case IMO. Lynda played Wonder Woman so TPTB just wanted us to recognize her. I believe if Moira was played by someone else she would be blond too.

seara
02-08-2008, 09:02 AM
She was Saying that she really isn't brunette, She's blond. Examine the dialog between her and Clark immediately preceding that statement.
Chloe thinks she is blond because she does not know she is really a brunnete, like lana. The expression is Clark's face is due to the fact that Clark KNOWS she is a bruntte.

Kal-alien
02-08-2008, 09:02 AM
I have brown hair. So there.

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 09:03 AM
Moira was special case IMO. Lynda played Wonder Woman so TPTB just wanted us to recognize her. I believe if Moira was played by someone else she would be blond too.

Lynda bought a blond wig for the role, AlMiles said they wanted her as a brunette.

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I have brown hair. So there.

I have Blond hair and i can tell you, AM isn't a natural Blond, look at her dark roots. She dyes it.

samanta
02-08-2008, 09:04 AM
Brunnette probably.

It's not the first time it's been brought up. Didn't that guy in Covenent call her a bleach blonde?

Or maybe that whole scene is being misinterpreted.

It certainly doesn't explain little Chlo in Progeny.I think it's pretty obvious that she's dying her hair but it doesn't mean she isn't blond. I'm blond too and still dye my hair.

harryandginnyfanatic
02-08-2008, 09:10 AM
I knew this goth chick who was a natural red head but she preferred to dye her hair black.

So even if Chloe isn't a natural blond, I think it's pretty obvious what colour she prefers.


Chloe: But I am the slickest blonde you'll ever meet.


Chloe: Do you think he likes blondes?

samanta
02-08-2008, 09:11 AM
Lynda bought a blond wig for the role, AlMiles said they wanted her as a brunette.

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I have Blond hair and i can tell you, AM isn't a natural Blond, look at her dark roots. She dyes it.
Of course they wanted her as brunette. So we could easily recognize her as I wrote before.
Dark roots doesn't mean she is brunette. If you are blond and dye your hair you surely know it. There is sun factor and dyed hairs with lighter color makes your natural color look darker than it really is.

hanna1804
02-08-2008, 09:11 AM
I watched the scene several times too, if that's the case, why not say "she's wearing a wig Clark." She goes "WHy? Because she's not blond" then outed herself not being a blond either, thus why Clark looked at her.

You see ?! I'm not the only one that isn't sure of what Chloe meant Amber :p Here is what I said in the Chloe/Clark scenes thread about that :

***Yeah I get that. But I still think that she sounded sarcastic about Clark because he seems so naive in that moment. Just because in the picture they're looking at, the woman isn't blonde, doesn't mean that she's not a real blonde just wearing a dark wig, in order to protect/hide her secret identity :)

So it would be like : "Why because she's not blonde ? Please Clark, the new bad girl could be as blond as I really am. Maybe she's just wearing a dark wig. Here we go, raven black, canary yellow..."***

Besides, I think Al/Miles put that line just to make us talk about it :D

jimmyolsenblues
02-08-2008, 09:12 AM
I don't understand, isn't chloe blonde. I don't get it , why would chloe be brunette?

aqgalaxy
02-08-2008, 09:12 AM
I knew this goth chick who was a natural red head but she preferred to dye her hair black.

So even if Chloe isn't a natural blond, I think it's pretty obvious what colour she prefers.

I agree with this, I dye my hair black and prefer it black, I love being a brunette over being blond.

Kal-alien
02-08-2008, 09:16 AM
i can't believe what a hot topic this is. I still say she (The character Chloe, not the actress Allison Mack) is blond. It will take them showing Chloe at a salon dying her hair on camera to convince me otherwise.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
02-08-2008, 09:17 AM
Chloe. Is. Blonde.


Yeah i agree. *pats self on back*

Naomi
02-08-2008, 09:17 AM
The reference was that Chloe isn't a real blonde. It makes sense, her hair was a lot darker in season 6 in episodes like Noir, and white blonde in late season 3. Plus she put streaks in her hair in Rush, so we know she's always changing her hair colour anyway.

harryandginnyfanatic
02-08-2008, 09:19 AM
Easiest agreement ever.

Delovely
02-08-2008, 09:20 AM
Yeah i agree. *pats self on back*

Me, too.

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 09:20 AM
So, Chloe said Dinah is about as blonde as her. Does that mean Chloe is a brunette? At the same time, Dinah looks like she is really blonde, but wears a dark wig. Wasn't Chloe blonde as a child? What do you guys think?

Which Dinah actually WAS a blonde. Unlike her comic counter-part it was the brunette hair that was the wig. Which actually makes more sense (the moment wearing the wig not the color). . . why would you be crime-fighting in a wig, when you can wear your REAL hair while in costume and then a wig during the less hectic hours of your 'normal' life? But I digress . . .

Yes, Chloe was blonde as a child when we saw her with her brunette mother (which by the way it was said that LC was kept brunette so people would know she was LC) On General Lane's desk back in 'Gone' we saw toddler Lois ALSO with blonde hair. It was darker blonde the Chloe's (much as it still is) but blonde nonetheless. Now both ladies have brunette parents, so they could have turned brunette naturally later on. That happened to my older sister, so it IS possible. Now if it's possible that Chloe now 'dyes' her hair blonde, it is definitely true of Lois since you can clearly see the brunette roots in Erica's hair. That could just be the costume/make-up department being sloppy . . . either way it doesn't matter.

Obviously this show doesn't feel their Lois has to be brunette to be Lois. I'd like to see Erica with dark hair, since it is the actresses natural color and I think it looks better on her, but she is no less and no more Lois with or without brunette hair. Now this isn't anti NOR pro theory. Because 'Smallville' has also kept Chloe blonde all these years with what I recall as one sarcastic comment from a jerk calling her a 'bottle blonde Pulitzer wannabe' and now what she said tonight, which I don't know how to take since Dinah really was blonde. So if Dinah is as blonde as Chloe is and then Chloe really IS blonde as well.

Either pro or anti theory it has been said by BOTH sides MANY times over that they don't care about hair color, which they shouldn't since its triviality puts it beneath any modicum of importance. Whether Chloe IS Lois or Lois IS Lois both of them currently are blonde and if they changed their color to brunette, redheaded or even PINK haired it wouldn't make them any more or any less the character they already are. I find it funny (not in a humorous way) that there are those that rightly believed the color of their preferred 'Lois' hairdo to be unimportant to suddenly change their minds based on one line of throw away dialogue.
If it was unimportant to you then it should continue to be unimportant.
I don't see anybody saying that Lana can't be Lana because she has black hair.

Seriously?:rolleyes: So my final vote was that I still believe Chloe to be blonde since the show let me see her as a kid with blonde hair, but I'm open to her becoming a brunette, just as I am open to Lois becoming a brunette. The significance of such a change is non existent and changes the character and the genuineness of the character in no way but aesthetics. I recently got crabbed at for complaining about the Black Canary get up, which had nothing to do with me being a comic bible thumper, I just think the costume and make up were/are ugly and that was the extent of my complaint. After seeing the episode she seems a very decent representation of that character, and her 'hair' is a blip on the radar. So again, blonde, brunette, red, blue, pink or zebra striped it affects ONLY the aesthetic. I voted 'blonde' but I wish there was an option that said "Who cares?!"

Ilovebeinglost
02-08-2008, 09:21 AM
Going by her natural facial coloring I would say that Chloe is blonde but let's face it everyone gets a little enhancement here and there to help nature.

I like little glance that Clark gave her hair. It was cute.

harryandginnyfanatic
02-08-2008, 09:25 AM
What I don't get.

In the comics Dinah Lance really has black hair and wears a blonde wig when she's Black Canary.

In this version we got the opposite.

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 09:27 AM
Dinah isn't a Blond thus Chloe's comment as "I really am"

YES she IS a blonde. Since such a line of dialogue occured in reference to Smallville's version of the Black Canary, NOT THE COMIC VERSION, that is what you must compare it to. Smallville's Black Canary is a short-spikey haired blonde who wears a brunette WIG. So if Chloe is as 'blonde' as THIS Black Canary is 'blonde' then Chloe IS 'blonde' since THIS Black Canary is 'blonde.'

The show wouldn't care to out a characters hair color because it matters not one iota. It was meant as a bit of cutesy dialogue and nothing else, since the importance of hair color really is NOTHING. If it did matter Lana would be a red head, and Martha would be a blonde woman with graying hair.

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Going by her natural facial coloring I would say that Chloe is blonde but let's face it everyone gets a little enhancement here and there to help nature.

I like little glance that Clark gave her hair. It was cute.


Yes it was cute. :)

Though I don't think Chloe would look so bad with brunette hair, we've seen her as a blonde so long I'd be in shock for awhile . . . but since it's just hair color I'd get over it pretty quick.

samanta
02-08-2008, 09:30 AM
Going by her natural facial coloring I would say that Chloe is blonde but let's face it everyone gets a little enhancement here and there to help nature.

I like little glance that Clark gave her hair. It was cute.
Agreed :)

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 09:30 AM
What I don't get.

In the comics Dinah Lance really has black hair and wears a blonde wig when she's Black Canary.

In this version we got the opposite.


I thought it was brown hair? But yeah, they did the opposite here in Smallville, which is why I said the show doesn't give a damn about matching a character's hair color to their comic counterpart. They obviously don't care, it's all about giving their characters a 'fresh' look. They've said that many times.

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I thought she was talking about Dinah being a burnette saying she's really as blonde as Chloe is.


That is what I thought as well, since THIS Dinah really IS a blonde. That and I think it was just some cutesy throw away line.

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I think it's pretty obvious that she's dying her hair but it doesn't mean she isn't blond. I'm blond too and still dye my hair.

So does one of my nieces, since she is a natural 'dirty blonde' and wants it to look more 'platinum'

borednow
02-08-2008, 09:38 AM
Yeah i agree. *pats self on back*

I agree too. *pats you on the back as well*

seriously... this is silly and Chloe said that Dinah could be as blond as she is, given that Dinah was blond and just wearing a brown wig... CHLOE WASN'T SAYING SHE ISN'T BLOND!

AndrewVDk
02-08-2008, 09:50 AM
Chloe is trying to say that just because Dinah is not blond in that picture, doesn't mean that she didn't dyed her hair blond, just like Chloe did!!

LoisJoanneKent
02-08-2008, 09:58 AM
Many blondes dye their har to make it lighter. I am one of them. As a kid I practically had white hair. Now it's more ashy. Lots of celebrities do this too. Look at Christina Aguilera. She's a natural blonde, but dyes her hait to make it look platinum. I think a lot of the Chloisers are making a big deal out of it, because they believe that if Chloe is really a brunnette, that will prove she is Lois. It's funny though, when the real Lois is more of a blonde...

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 09:59 AM
Chloe is trying to say that just because Dinah is not blond in that picture, doesn't mean that she didn't dyed her hair blond, just like Chloe did!!


You mean back when Chloe was twelve years old? Give me a break.
I'm willing to go with her hair changed into a brunette color during the later years of her childhood, somewhere between twelve and fifteen (when the show started and when Chloe was STILL blonde), though that is a stretch, so she could have dyed her hair blonde. It think it is likely, as others have said, that if she does dye it it is to just to make it more blonde than it already is. But Chloe Sullivan was born blonde, just like her older cousin was born blonde.

Seriously, it doesn't matter wether she did or didn't dye her fracking hair. It's just hair color people. Man, wish I knew what it was like to get this much attention when someone even THINKS I dyed my hair. I've dyed it drastically black and people barely notice. "Did you do something to your hair Val? You look a little different somehow." That's pretty much the extent of it.

samanta
02-08-2008, 10:02 AM
It's funny though, when the real Lois is more of a blonde...

:confused: Really? I don't read comic books but in the pictures I've seen, Lois has always had dark hair and in movies too.

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 10:04 AM
:confused: Really? I don't read comic books but in the pictures I've seen, Lois has always had dark hair and in movies too.

Lois does have dark hair. There was also a stint where it was red, and the brunette changes from black to brown, short to long, curly to straight . . . and now it's wavy and blonde (on Smallville). The comics, just like Smallville, realise that hair color is just hair color and affects ONLY the aesthetic.

samanta
02-08-2008, 10:06 AM
Seriously, it doesn't matter wether she did or didn't dye her fracking hair. It's just hair color people. Man, wish I knew what it was like to get this much attention when someone even THINKS I dyed my hair. I've dyed it drastically black and people barely notice. "Did you do something to your hair Val? You look a little different somehow." That's pretty much the extent of it.
:lol::lol: Dye it pink. I did it like 5 years ago and people noticed it. Pink always works.

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 10:17 AM
:lol::lol: Dye it pink. I did it like 5 years ago and people noticed it. Pink always works.

Nah, I'm pretty sure I'd still get plenty of 'what is different about you? I can't tell' comments. I wore a bright neon green wig to work once for St. Pattys day and it took awhile for my boss to notice . . . I'm serious. :p

lastdaughterofkrypton
02-08-2008, 10:21 AM
Nah, I'm pretty sure I'd still get plenty of 'what is different about you? I can't tell' comments. I wore a bright neon green wig to work once for St. Pattys day and it took awhile for my boss to notice . . . I'm serious. :p

I'm sure all of them are guys. In my experience women notice right away. Straight guys? Not so much. I used to have really short hair and I got some extensions till my back and my coworker after like 4 hours of being with me told me: Did you got your hair down today!!? :lol: I was totally shocked!

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 10:36 AM
I'm sure all of them are guys. In my experience women notice right away. Straight guys? Not so much. I used to have really short hair and I got some extensions till my back and my coworker after like 4 hours of being with me told me: Did you got your hair down today!!? :lol: I was totally shocked!

Yes, they were all guys, how ever did you guess.
I had really long black hair, had it cut into a very short bob style and shot through with big chunks of blonde. After EIGHT hours my boss looks at me and says "Val, you changed your hair didn't you?"

Dude, seriously. LOL I'm reminded of Chloe and Clark here with her cut on her cheek. "Clark, did you seriously JUST notice?"

This goes to prove that hair color really doesn't matter worth a hill of beans.

MidgardDragon
02-08-2008, 10:38 AM
So, Chloe said Dinah is about as blonde as her. Does that mean Chloe is a brunnette? At the same time, Dinah looks like she is really blonde, but wears a dark wig. Wasn't Chloe blonde as a child? What do you guys think?

It was simply meant to infuriate "Chlois" theorists, IMO. Good on them for making light of such an outlandish theory.

sabi908
02-08-2008, 10:39 AM
Chloe Started dying her hair blonde when she was 5...that's right people

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werent Chloisers at one point using Lois's light hair to discredit her from being ILL...for all we know Lois is really a brunette (and u can see her dark roots) and dyes her hair lighter

dunkman
02-08-2008, 11:16 AM
I think Chloe is blond. The little girl that played Chloe in Progeny was blond too.

I always assumed she was really blonde (although she is smarter than the typical blonde stereotype), but it could be that she was blonde as a little girl & her hair got darker as she got older - that happens a lot - & now she dyes it.

InLove_with_Chloe
02-08-2008, 11:24 AM
I couldn't care less about what AlMiles come up with.
Chloe's blond.

Superboy2
02-08-2008, 11:50 AM
Chloe is blond. Plain and simple.

Chiriru
02-08-2008, 01:16 PM
The whole use of "really" and how it was used basically underscored that she's a bottle blonde; as did Clark's reaction of "Wait, not really blonde?!"

It makes sense given what Craig said about the inital sides for Moira last year requesting a brunette pre-Lynda casting.

ETA: Mod note people - remember rule #10. Talk about the show, not about fans, group of fans, or anything like that guys.

PepsiMax
02-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Chloe is blonde, period. It would be interesting though if she wasn't really and then it turned out the writers had some secret superhero to be scheme instore for her. Yeah! :D:eek:

Krypton935
02-08-2008, 04:27 PM
Chloe=Blonde!

Blonde=Chloe

Chloe is blonde!!!!!

Kal-ed
02-08-2008, 04:36 PM
So what then?? She dyed her hair when she was a little kid?? It really doesnt make sense that she would be a brunette, but then again neither did her powers so, who knows

Billy Jor-El
02-08-2008, 04:42 PM
Chloe am blonde

Chloe am beautiful

Mongo say so :p

PepsiMax
02-08-2008, 04:46 PM
So what then?? She dyed her hair when she was a little kid?? It really doesnt make sense that she would be a brunette, but then again neither did her powers so, who knows

She is probably a brunette than, Can't wait for the writers to explain that one! :lol:

LovelyLoisLane
02-08-2008, 04:47 PM
I always assumed she was really blonde (although she is smarter than the typical blonde stereotype), but it could be that she was blonde as a little girl & her hair got darker as she got older - that happens a lot - & now she dyes it.

That is possible yes, since I refuse to buy into a ridiculous notion that a little kid was allowed to be bleaching their hair.

However, I stress again that hair color doesn't matter one iota. I voted blonde for this poll because I saw a blonde little girl Chloe and a blonde fifteen year old Chloe and she has remained blonde (with blonde eyebrows as well) through out the show. Besides that though, she could be a brunette and it's still just hair color. Doesn't matter one way or the other, plain and simple.

LoisJoanneKent
02-08-2008, 05:43 PM
:confused: Really? I don't read comic books but in the pictures I've seen, Lois has always had dark hair and in movies too.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Smallville's Lois Lane is blonde. Iconic Lois lane ironically enough, has hair quite similar to Smallville's lana Lang...

sabi908
02-08-2008, 06:05 PM
Sorry, I should have been more specific. Smallville's Lois Lane is blonde. Iconic Lois lane ironically enough, has hair quite similar to Smallville's lana Lang...
so Lana is the real Lois Lane then =P or so the argument goes

Tobywolf13
02-08-2008, 06:28 PM
Chloe was about 8 in the Progeny flashback. It is very common for children to start out as blonde and then to become dark haired as a adults. Both my sister and I started as blondes. I'm still a dirty blonde, not nearly as toe-headed as I was, and my sister's been dyeing her hair blond since she was 12. Chloe could have been blonde and then went darker as a teenager. She was clearly peroxiding it in most of S3 since her hair was almost white. She's also lightened it chemically since last season in which her hair was basically dirty blonde/light brown in Noir/Phantom.

Chloe said she dyes her hair.

She's been referred to in other episodes as a "bottle blonde."

Chloe is, as an adult, a brunette woman dyeing her hair blonde. The statement was meant to be taken as fact.

She's a brunette and, as a side note, hair color is very incidental to identity because it can always change.

Honey45
02-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Most blondes aren't really blonde.

Heck, I'm "blonde". :lol:

Chloe probably has light brown/dirty blonde hair.

The Great Ymmij
02-08-2008, 08:20 PM
I don't care what anybody says, Chloe is blonde!

LoisJoanneKent
02-08-2008, 09:22 PM
^^Word!:)

LoisL
02-08-2008, 09:31 PM
What made that scene so cute and hilarious in the ep is just that it made you stop and think, doing a double take the same as Clark.

I'm on the side that she's brunette/dirtyblonde; I remember her being referred to as a bleached blonde before, which I've since come to terms with. :lol: Hey, it makes sense. She always has such cute stylish hair that you know Chloe's supposed to visit the hairdresser regularly. A professionl dye job should be easy to maintain, right?

As has been said about her blonde childhood, it's very common for kids to start off blonde and grow up dark haired. Also, we're talking about an episode -and a family- that has precedent for confusing hair color changes.

Anyway, I thought Chloe's hair was really great in "Siren". It was quite distracting how cute it looked. Honestly, she's a walking barber advertisement.

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I don't care what anybody says, Chloe is blonde!


Hey, don't worry. In this day and age, nobody cares. I've frequently heard people, known to dye their hair, called "blonde" anyway. That's what she looks like and she's been consistent about it (despite varying shades et al) so it's definitely part of her identity. Don't let little facts like the reality of dye jobs change things much.

It's no biggie. It was just a funny, thought-provokingly, offhand shocker confession. heh heh! I'm still chuckling. :D

Jory
02-08-2008, 10:07 PM
Both of my sister's had blond hair when they were 8 and younger, but when they started getting older their hair became a light brown; now one dyes her hair blond. It is possible to be a "blond child", but when you get older your hair darkens to brunette. No big deal, Chloe's a brunette who dyes her hair blond.

OliviaB
02-08-2008, 11:01 PM
I thought this ep pretty much confirmed that she's a brunette. Clark wouldn't have had such a reaction if she was just saying yeah Dinah and I are both really blondes.

Kal-ed
02-09-2008, 01:13 AM
I think only Jimmy can tell the truth about Chloe´s real hair color ;)... sorry I just couldnt help my self:p

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I thought this ep pretty much confirmed that she's a brunette. Clark wouldn't have had such a reaction if she was just saying yeah Dinah and I are both really blondes.

And it was also proven she´s a blond when we saw her as a little kid being blond... I rather belive 7 years of canon that one single reference that served as plot exposition in the Dinah case.

ShelbyKent
02-09-2008, 02:13 AM
That line was meant to be outing Chloe is a Brunette.

The line was in reference to BC. "The new Bad girl could be as blond as I really am." the new bad girl was BC, "could be as blond as I really am", while staring at Dinah Lance's picture. Dinah isn't a Blond thus Chloe's comment as "I really am"

I think the interesting term is "as blonde as I am". It references levels of blondeness (is that a word LOL?) I mean if you aren't of solid scandinavian descent on both sides of the family tree, it's rare for adults to maintain Chloe's light blonde and evenly shaded hair color 24/7, 365 days a year without a little help from Miss Clairol. Babies usually start out with light blonde hair then turn to a darker blonde after puberty hits. If they want to go back to the light blonde shade, they have to resort to highlights.

So I don't necesarrily think Chloe's an outright brunette like Lana Lang. I think her real hair color is a dirty blonde/dishwater blonde and she uses hair color to achieve her current light golden blonde shade.

I think Chloe's highlights got better as the series progressed. Her Season 1 -3 hair color was too one-process looking, not enough layered shading, making the overall look more harsh. Her highlights started getting better in Season 5

Radioflyer
02-09-2008, 04:31 AM
Unless Allison Mack has been dying hair her hair since she was a child on the "Goosbumps series" she's definitely blond.

Jade4813
02-09-2008, 10:35 AM
Um....not to be the slow person in the room, but why does it matter? (Okay, I can think of one reason why people would think it matters, but I'm sincerely hoping I've got it wrong.) I also wonder if in the line reading, AM just misplaced the "really" (as in, is really as blonde as opposed to as I really am)...or even added a really that wasn't there...which, you know, is not beyond the realm of possibility. It's hard to do line readings using the exact words written, virbatim, when you're doing a play week after week. In a TV show, I imagine there's a lot of times that people give lines that are almost exactly as written with very very minor differences because they don't have a photographic memory. ("Hi," instead of "Hey," or "You're serious?" instead of "You're really serious?" That sort of thing.)

queenelizabeth
02-09-2008, 01:04 PM
I guess she meant "blonde" as in dumb. Neither Lance nor Sullivan are dumb, so I guess that's what she meant.

LoveHurts38
02-09-2008, 05:26 PM
True Blonde.

Jade4813
02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
I do think the most logical reading of that line, as it was done, has nothing to do with Chloe's hair color.

"Maybe she's as blonde as I really am," she says, as she's looking at a picture of brunette Dinah. And then she changes the picure to be blonde.

That's like me looking at a blonde and saying "Maybe she's really brunette" and sticking a brunette wig on her head to see if that's part of her "disguise". It says nothing about Chloe's hair color. It's like, "Let's see what she would look like as a blonde!" because BC was blonde. (Which she could have just said, but Chloe likes to do verbal gymnastics whenever possible.) And then she uses the nifty DP computers to see.

Again, I don't understand why the debate, but that's how I'd read it.

lastdaughterofkrypton
02-09-2008, 08:47 PM
Yes, they were all guys, how ever did you guess.

Straight men are all like that honey...all of them.


I had really long black hair, had it cut into a very short bob style and shot through with big chunks of blonde. After EIGHT hours my boss looks at me and says "Val, you changed your hair didn't you?"

Dude, seriously. LOL I'm reminded of Chloe and Clark here with her cut on her cheek. "Clark, did you seriously JUST notice?"

Heh funny thing. I will try and get a pink wig to see if they really notice ;)



This goes to prove that hair color really doesn't matter worth a hill of beans.

I know some people things this is silly but in the debate thread about who Chloe might turn out to be some people hold a sword on her head for not being blond. This revelation will cross that one of the list so that is why all the fuss.

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I think only Jimmy can tell the truth about Chloe´s real hair color ;)... sorry I just couldnt help my self:p

Ohh that was dirty :lol:

SteveS
02-09-2008, 09:45 PM
Chloe. Is. Blonde.

Chole. Is. A. brunette.

Look at her eyebrows.

msleggie
02-09-2008, 10:51 PM
I think Chloe is a blonde and she just made that comment b/c she thought canary wasn't, or maybe she isn't I don't know...

Lostfan588
02-09-2008, 10:57 PM
Okay, to me? Chloe/AM's hair looks completly like a natural blonde, however after seeing AM in past shows like "The Opposite Sex", her hair did look darker then to me, but still blonde.

For some reason though, on "Smallville" they have her calling herself a "bleach blonde" and telling Clark that she's as blonde as Dina, meaning she's not really a blonde at all.

Don't ask me why.

Aries83
02-09-2008, 11:28 PM
There have been several times throughout the course of the show when she's been described as a bleach blonde...I can't think of them off of the top of my head, but I think one of those times was during Season 3 when she was snooping around the Luthors and someone made the comment of "are you really going to let some bleache blonde something or other ...blah blah blah"...LOL

I don't think it matters if she is blond or not...She might feel like more people will like her blonde instead of brunette...I don't know...

Kal-ed
02-11-2008, 01:56 AM
... telling Clark that she's as blonde as Dina...



But that´s the thing, Dinah is blond and Chloe knew it, it took her about half a sec looking at the picture to figure out that Dinah was the blond chick that had atacked her in the roof. Its like me seeing Tom with his hair dyed red and me saying that he´s as a brunette as I am. and well he is as brunette as I am.

Lara Lane
02-11-2008, 08:43 AM
But that´s the thing, Dinah is blond and Chloe knew it, it took her about half a sec looking at the picture to figure out that Dinah was the blond chick that had atacked her in the roof. Its like me seeing Tom with his hair dyed red and me saying that he´s as a brunette as I am. and well he is as brunette as I am.

Indeed. Correct thoughts process. Accurate logic. :cool:

Eri-El
02-11-2008, 07:10 PM
I think she is definetly a brunette......or at least a DARK Blonde. Her eyebrows are way too dark IMO.

jazel
02-11-2008, 10:52 PM
for arguements sake, I say Chloe, is a natural blonde.
as natural as you can get, thanks to Miss Clairol.;) :lol:

Eri-El
02-12-2008, 02:39 AM
for arguements sake, I say Chloe, is a natural blonde.
as natural as you can get, thanks to Miss Clairol.;) :lol:



:rotfl::rotfl:

Kalista
02-12-2008, 07:26 AM
Her statement is deliberately ambiguous but I am left with the impression that she is a brunette or dark blonde.

Kal-ed
02-12-2008, 07:35 AM
Seriously, ambiguos how? if Dinah IS IN FACT a blond, Had BC had black hair then I would agree, but aside from the wig, that it clearly didnt fool Chloe for a sec, she was (is) in fact a blond, its a very simple silogism:

Dinah is blond
Dinah is as blond as Chloe
Chloe is blond.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
02-12-2008, 07:53 AM
Note To All: Remember The "e" On The End Of Blonde

Kalista
02-12-2008, 08:28 AM
Seriously, ambiguos how? if Dinah IS IN FACT a blond, Had BC had black hair then I would agree, but aside from the wig, that it clearly didnt fool Chloe for a sec, she was (is) in fact a blond, its a very simple silogism:

Dinah is blond
Dinah is as blond as Chloe
Chloe is blond.

That scene was deliberately worded to spark this kind of debate. Think about it. Why did the subject of hair color need to come up in the discussion between Chloe and Clark? Why not just have it written where Chloe tells Clark that the Dinah wears a black wig to disquise her natural blonde hair color? Chloe said, "The new bad girl could be as blonde as I really am." The writers could have easily had her say, "...as blonde as I am." Why did the camera focus on Clark's reaction as he looked at her hair? To imply, that Clark was surprised that Chloe may be saying she is not a natural blonde. True, those with an opposing view can say that he gave Chloe that look because he had a moment of revelation and realized that the Dinah (on the computer screen) was wearing a wig. I am fine with either argument. But it is clear to me that writers are toying with the various fan groups in this scene.

Kal-ed
02-12-2008, 12:15 PM
I disagree IMO people with agendas is what started this debate, I honestly didnt give it a second thought untill I came to the forum later that night and the only reason Im debating is cause, at least from my POV this has Chlois written all over it and I like to debate about that sunject, although it shouldnt be an issue since before Chloe became a brunette, the argument was that hair color was not a defining characteristic of ILL.

Now, in all honesty if Dinah had not had blonde hair, I would have thought Chloe was a brunette but since Dinah IS IN FACT as blond as Chloe I had no option but to take it as that.

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Note To All: Remember The "e" On The End Of Blonde

Sorry not a native speaker, I copied the spelling from someone else

Kalista
02-12-2008, 01:07 PM
I disagree IMO people with agendas is what started this debate, I honestly didnt give it a second thought untill I came to the forum later that night and the only reason Im debating is cause, at least from my POV this has Chlois written all over it and I like to debate about that sunject, although it shouldnt be an issue since before Chloe became a brunette, the argument was that hair color was not a defining characteristic of ILL.

Now, in all honesty if Dinah had not had blonde hair, I would have thought Chloe was a brunette but since Dinah IS IN FACT as blond as Chloe I had no option but to take it as that.



Well, I don't have an agenda and think the scene was deliberately written to spark a debate.

Firebunny
02-12-2008, 01:18 PM
Note To All: Remember The "e" On The End Of Blonde Actually, Blond can be spelled with the e or with out. Either way's acceptable (at least in the U.S.). I prefer to use the e, but I'm superfluous that way.


As for Chloe's real hair color. I think it's the same color as Lois' so, yeah, she's a blonde.

Lara Lane
02-12-2008, 03:25 PM
That scene was deliberately worded to spark this kind of debate.

I think, that would be giving too much credit to TPTB... And just as Kal-Ed said, it is a simple syllogism which result is quite obvious to say the truth...

Kalista
02-12-2008, 05:59 PM
I think, that would be giving too much credit to TPTB... And just as Kal-Ed said, it is a simple syllogism which result is quite obvious to say the truth...


If the writers were not aware of the Chlois theory and I am assuming, the fan base, then I would agree with you. But since they are aware of the theory, I don't think it is too unrealistic to say that they play off the various theories and fan groups to keep people watching.

smallvillechic
02-12-2008, 06:51 PM
she should sooooo stay blonde shes soo pretty

jazel
02-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Are we really "debating", about a fictional tv character's, hair color ? :(
SV is a lot smarter, than we give them credit for *mad*......think, I'm gonna log-off a bit, and go check out my real-life.....how dare SV mock me.:lol:

ginnyfan
02-13-2008, 06:36 PM
Since we've see Chloe as a child, I'd say it was the general blonde to brunette fade. As she got older, her hair darkened into a dirty blonde/light brown and she has to help it out. The line was so clunky that I think it may be that the writers were throwing a bone to certain theorists out there. :rolleyes:

I agree with others that Chloe Sullivan is a BLONDE in my heart. Whatever "destiny" she may have... *colossal sigh* she should pursue it as the perky blonde I know and love.


Seriously, ambiguous how? if Dinah IS IN FACT a blond, Had BC had black hair then I would agree, but aside from the wig, that it clearly didn't fool Chloe for a sec, she was (is) in fact a blond, its a very simple syllogism:

Dinah is blond
Dinah is as blond as Chloe
Chloe is blond.

Yeah I thought of that. But the way Allison read the line... it was odd. Why didn't she just say, "She may be as blonde as I am."?

LoisL
02-13-2008, 09:01 PM
Seriously, ambiguos how? if Dinah IS IN FACT a blond, Had BC had black hair then I would agree, but aside from the wig, that it clearly didnt fool Chloe for a sec, she was (is) in fact a blond, its a very simple silogism:

Dinah is blond
Dinah is as blond as Chloe
Chloe is blond.

Throwing Chlois baggage out the window, I think it's a valid first impression to assume that Chloe was outing herself as a brunette due to the "really" in "as blonde as I really am". If I remember correctly, her intonation also piqued attention. Of course the question is whether first impressions hold up under reasoned argument --thus this thread.

I think it's fun and fine to talk about SV minutiae although I agree that it is ridiculous to use something this small as "damning evidence" in a canon-breaking Chlois debate. On the other hand, who's surprised? Chlois debates tend to the exaggerated. *shrug*

Odysseus
02-13-2008, 10:22 PM
People can be blonde haired when they're younger and then have it become darker as they grow older.

I think Chloe probably had really blonde hair as a kid and then it darkened to "dirty blonde". And she helps brings it to a more "way blonde" color by dying it at this point in time.



I think this is the most logical explanation, since Little!Chloe WAS shown to be blonde in that flashback in "Progeny." I do know someone who had light hair when he was little but his hair darkened naturally as he got older.

Same thing probably happened to Chloe, and she wanted it to remain blonde, so she started dyeing it.

Kal-ed
02-13-2008, 10:40 PM
Throwing Chlois baggage out the window, I think it's a valid first impression to assume that Chloe was outing herself as a brunette due to the "really" in "as blonde as I really am". If I remember correctly, her intonation also piqued attention. Of course the question is whether first impressions hold up under reasoned argument --thus this thread.


Again, Chloe knew BC was a blond so the only way I could take the "Really" with any other meaning that just enphasis, would be if Dinah had had a blond wig and her real hair color was brunette.

I still think that had Chlois not have been an issue, this woulnd be one either, I may be wrong. But it seems like we´r out there searching for clues so anything that resembles one will be taken as one. Its like when someone suspects that their partner is cheating on them and it so happens that he/she gets 3 calls more than usuall that very day and instead of being taken as an irrelevant coincidence its taken as evidence, cause we have that particular set of mind.

Kalista
02-14-2008, 08:37 AM
The line was so clunky that I think it may be that the writers were throwing a bone to certain theorists out there. But the way Allison read the line... it was odd. Why didn't she just say, "She may be as blonde as I am."?

That is exactly what I said.

4CHLicks
02-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Again, Chloe knew BC was a blond so the only way I could take the "Really" with any other meaning that just enphasis, would be if Dinah had had a blond wig and her real hair color was brunette.


I believe the guest actress, Alaina Huffman, is a natural brunette. Not that it matters.

What matters is that Dinah was probably wearing a brunette wig because everyone expected to see "regular Dinah" as a brunette - when she wasn't in her disguise as BC. It was while she was in disguise that Black Canary bleached her hair blond. Point being - No diguise, she's a brunette, hence the brunette wig when she's being "just Dinah". With disguise, she's a bleached blond, just like Chloe claimed to be with her "as blond as I really am" line. With disguise, Chloe's a bleached blond, too, and she just "unmasked" herself in front of Clark. Chloe's a brunette bleaching her hair.

Disguises are very important on Smallville. So I'm certain the writers took special care with this little feature of Dinah's brunette hair being bleached for her disguise as Black Canary.

dunkman
03-27-2008, 11:38 AM
Sorry, I should have been more specific. Smallville's Lois Lane is blonde. Iconic Lois lane ironically enough, has hair quite similar to Smallville's lana Lang...

I wouldn't say Smallville's Lois Lane is blonde - more of a light brown - but it is lighter than it usually is in the comic books. The Lois on "Superman: the Animated Series" actually looks a lot more like Smallville's Lana Lang, who was always a redhead until Smallville. Erica Durance acts the character of Lois very well, though, so it's acceptable that she has lighter hair. Besides, Margot Kidder's hair wasn't really DARK brown, & in some of the comic books Lois had reddish highlights. Girls change their hair color all the time!

DontCha
05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
you just know the people who said brunnete are chloisers...

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I wouldn't say Smallville's Lois Lane is blonde - more of a light brown - but it is lighter than it usually is in the comic books. The Lois on "Superman: the Animated Series" actually looks a lot more like Smallville's Lana Lang, who was always a redhead until Smallville. Erica Durance acts the character of Lois very well, though, so it's acceptable that she has lighter hair. Besides, Margot Kidder's hair wasn't really DARK brown, & in some of the comic books Lois had reddish highlights. Girls change their hair color all the time!


Lois Lane has been pictured with red hair, light brown hair, black hair and dark brown hair. Never blonde hair.

But with naturally blonde haired people, their hair often becomes a sort of mousy blonde as they get older it never remains light blonde and so they keep dying it to look blonder than it actually is. I would say Chloe's hair is a sort of mousy blonde. But sometimes a lighter blonde. She probably dyes it to keep it the blonde she had shen she was a kid.

My friend refuses to be mousy blonde she dyes it light blonde all the time.

Chloe_is_my_Hero
05-06-2008, 10:57 AM
I love a blonde Chlomister.

pizzaguy19
05-06-2008, 10:27 PM
I think she is definetly a brunette......or at least a DARK Blonde. Her eyebrows are way too dark IMO.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'd never looked at her eyebrows before, but they're WAY dark in this episode. No way she's got those eyebrows and that natural hair color.


Note To All: Remember The "e" On The End Of Blonde

Nah it can be spelled both ways. I tend to use the "e" to describe girls and no "e" for guys. Just personal preference though.

alejandrita439
07-13-2008, 05:35 PM
i think that she really is blonde :)

Vergon6
07-13-2008, 06:19 PM
Chloe is definitely supposed to be blonde. She says something to the effect that "Maybe Dinah Lance is really as blonde as I am", then Clark looks at her funny, and then she reveals a photoshopped version of Dinah Lance with Black Canary blonde hair underneath the brunette wig. It was to show that Dinah Lance and Black Canary were the same person.

In Smallville, brunette is the facade for Dinah Lance and the short blonde hair underneath is Dinah's real hair. I am not sure why that is so hard to understand. There might be a case for Chloe being a brunette if Dinah Lance on Smallville wore a blonde wig like she does in the comics, but that's not the case here.

The point of Chloe's line was not to suggest that she was not really blonde, but that Dinah Lance was actually blonde in reality, just like her.

LovelyLoisLane
07-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Not to mention that she was shone as a child of about twelve with blonde hair, and then when SV first began in season one she was about fifteen and had blonde hair. Then in 'Tomb' we saw her mother (and later the producers admitted that it WAS her mom we saw in Tomb, and that the decision to keep Linda's black hair when she played Moira was because they wanted people to recognize the actress as Wonder Woman) and she was blonde as well. Gabe had brownish hair I think, maybe, but light brown if it was.

So she dyed her hair before she was twelve? I doubt it and she's ALWAYS been blonde for the whole show. I don't understand it either, because the Dinah Lance on SV WAS really blonde, so if she was AS blonde as Chloe then they are both blonde.

As for eyebrows, my niece is a natural blue eyed blonde and she has medium brown eyebrows. I'm a natural red head and have dark brown eyebrows. What is so strange about that?

Not to mention Chloe referred to herself as the Slickest Blonde You'll Ever Meet. Somehow slickest BOTTLE Blonde You'll Ever Meet doesn't have the same ring to it.

mistaguitarmasta
07-13-2008, 07:48 PM
Blonde.

miks
07-13-2008, 09:44 PM
Brunette. Hair color changes from child to grown up, hey eyebrows are definitely brown.

Twitch
07-13-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say... blonde.

individuall
07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
^yeah...I'm with you...Chloe is definitely blonde

LovelyLoisLane
07-14-2008, 11:13 AM
Brunette. Hair color changes from child to grown up, hey eyebrows are definitely brown.

As a twelve year old CHILD she was blonde and again with the eyebrows . . . I'm a natural red head and have dark almost black brown eyebrows, and yet, guess what, I'm STILL a red head.

Everyone is open to their opinion and really I could give a rats behind what color her hair is, but what gets me so up in arms is that it is very obvious that Chloe is indeed a blonde, to me I find it to be GLARINGLY obvious.

So unless she dyed her hair blonde at the tender age of twelve, or dyed her hair blonde at the age of twelve, let it grow back in light brown (since Gabe had light brown hair and Moira was blonde, because yes the woman in Tomb WAS her mother. I've stated several times how the only reason that Linda (former Wonder Woman) had black hair and not blonde was because the producers wanted audiences to recognize her as the actress that played Wonder Woman. I'd like to know how stupid they believe us to be, but that was the reason. It won't take you long to find the interview where that was stated, as it was plastered all over the place for a while there.) and then bleached it yet again by the time she was fifteen, which I sincerely doubt, then yes, wonder of wonders she is blonde.

Not once in seven seasons have we seen Chloe be brunette. Not once. Ya know, I'd like to see my girl Lois go brunette, but here's the rub, she isn't. She has a mix of very light brown and dark blonde. That's just how it is wether I like it or not. So is it too with Chloe.

A mean spirited comment from an angry special agent calling her a bottle blonde, and a comment from Chloe herself saying that the BLONDE Black Canary was as blonde as Chloe is, does not provide anything in the way of evidence suggesting Chloe is a brunette.

Could she be brunette if we really stretch our imaginations? Yes, of course, but until I see that she is, I'm calling it like it is. Chloe is blonde. Period.

miks
07-14-2008, 12:53 PM
I don't see why anyone is arguing this. She said Yeah she's about as blonde as I am, which is a JOKE, meaning she's not blonde. If Lois would have said that people would have been like oh she was clearly joking:rolleyes:

Khyla
07-19-2008, 10:19 PM
I don't see why anyone is arguing this. She said Yeah she's about as blonde as I am, which is a JOKE, meaning she's not blonde. :rolleyes:

I agree. Some folks here are tryin to read way too much into it with regard to Canary's real and died color, and any application to CHlois, etc.
Even the argument that CHloe was blonde as a child, is silly. I know lots of blonde girls who grew up to either have natural brown or even dark brunette hair, or they became "bottle-blondes".


Without thinking too much into it, it was an obvious tease about Chloe's true hair color being a darker hue. (I like Chloe blonde though. :( I hope she keeps it that way.)

Clark even gives her hair a once-over look like "ya mean that's not really your own hair color?" He seems bewildered. :lol:

check it out:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/Khylaa/animated%20GIFS/siren_Clip2.gif

Firebunny
07-19-2008, 10:29 PM
Without thinking too much into it, it was an obvious tease about Chloe's true hair color being a darker hue. Or it could be a hint that Chloe's gone completely gray. Has anyone considered that?

Anyway, I agree. You can tell by Clark's reaction he thinks she just admitted to not being a natural blonde.

Khyla
07-19-2008, 10:33 PM
Or it could be a hint that Chloe's gone completely gray. Has anyone considered that?


:lol:

alejandrita439
08-09-2008, 03:36 PM
Or it could be a hint that Chloe's gone completely gray. Has anyone considered that?



hahaha..thats so funny :D

Khyla
01-25-2009, 05:50 PM
I think this poll tells a lot more than just whether fans think Chloe is blonde or brunette ;)