Wow, finally some real fighting moves...

[LexLuv180]

...with Lex, that is. Sure, he still got his butt handed to him, but finally this fight training a supposed military guy taught him is shown off. :lol:I almost thought they were going to do weird matrix moves when he grabbed two guns, though...

[double L]

The best part of that whole thing was Black Canary dropping that guard with 1 punch.

[Clana4Life]

It seemed out of character for Lex, too. After 7 season he can suddenly fight like that. I don't know what was up with the writers on this episode. Lex should not have been able to fight as well as Green Arrow.

[TWLOVER03]

yeah i was impressed with both Lex and The BC

[Bizarro345]

That fight beats the hell out of the standoff in "Rage"

[Cogito17]

Did I miss something, or was there a reason why Clark didn't stop Lex from getting hit with the knife?

Fight scene was cool, but seemed a little random, SV hasn't really done too much stuff like that.

[lois_lane-kent]

I loved the fight scene. Then Clark came and ruined it all (because we can never have a fight scene with Clark that does consist of just throwing people -- expect for in "Combat").


Did I miss something, or was there a reason why Clark didn't stop Lex from getting hit with the knife?

Fight scene was cool, but seemed a little random, SV hasn't really done too much stuff like that.
Because SV likes to portray Clark Kent as a petty jerk.

And the fight scene was random. How is Lex supposed to keep up with a SUPER hero?

[kentfamily]

Loved the fight scene between Green Arrow and Lex!!! Exciting!:eek::lol:

[Clana4Life]

But not realistic. No way should Lex be able to fight like that. Is he on some sort of drug? If he could fight like this why has he gotten beat up so many times. Why is he getting beat up in the next episode. The writing is all over the place. But at least the fight looked good. I'll give you that.

[lois_lane-kent]

Remember that Lex Luthor can teach Lana Lang kung-fu in less than a day. He can do ANYTHING.

[minerva73]

Did I miss something, or was there a reason why Clark didn't stop Lex from getting hit with the knife?

Fight scene was cool, but seemed a little random, SV hasn't really done too much stuff like that.

I think because time wasn't on his side or something. At the rate that he was running (even if it was at superspeed) the knife would have hit Lex or the bullet would have hit Canary, if he went to choose one. At first he looked at the knife, but he ran for the bullet to save Canary instead. He's probably given up on Lex for good now. :\

The fighting scene was great. They looked like Power Rangers, but still great. :D

[superspider02]

Yea the green arrow/lex/black canery fight was pretty sweet. And with clark not stoping the knife he doesnt like or really care about lex any more. And he probably saw the knife was not going to hit him in a fatal spot.

[kentfamily]

^^^^^^^

Your right about Lex getting beat up all the time then he stands and fights Green Arrow. I think Lex is losing his mind because in the last episode he goes out on the roof and screams and brings his arms up after he had Julian killed. I think he lost his mind there, its like Julian dying all over again when Lex was a child. I think Lex in the comics is supposed to be evil like that, murdering and killing and just being evil. Even when Lana said," No you dont" when Lionel said, " I know Lex better than anyone".

Smallville is about how all the characters become the people of who they are in the future. It is about Superman's early days, including the other characters.

[you_smell_terrific]

I think Clark only had time to either stop the knife or stop the bullet going at the black canary and he chose who he thought was better. That's what I thought anyway

[lois_lane-kent]

I personally believe Clark's fast enough to have done both.

[BadToad]

Clark wasn't being a jerk. For God sakes people. He ran into the scene, he stopped GA's arrow from hitting Lex, and Lex's bullet from hitting GA. Then he only had time to stop either the knife from hitting Lex in the shoulder, or the bullet from hitting BC directly in the chest. He chose the more dire option. If Clark doesn't show up in that scene, what do you think would've happened? Do you really belive that those 3 people would've left the scene alive? BC would've very likely been dead. Oliver also shot, possibly fatally. And Lex would've gotten hit with a knife AND an arrow.

But Clark is a petty jerk? Yeah, he should've just let the 3 of them kill each other :rolleyes:

[lois_lane-kent]

It seems Clark's speed fluctuates. On a good day, he could've done got 'em all. Guess it wasn't a good day. Clark should be able to have helped both Lex and Dinah - he's fast enough. Luckily he had a good day in "Progeny" or Lex would've been a goner. The "petty jerk" thing comes from the fact that he has to think about whether or not someone should be saved just because they hurt his feelings.

[BadToad]

Well, I think they clearly set the scene so that we could see that Clark had to make a tough choice. If that wasn't what they were going for, I can't think of any good reason for them to direct the scene in that manner.

In Progeny, he only had to stop one bullet, and speed Chloe away. I'm not seeing how thats an accurate comparison.

[lois_lane-kent]

My problem with "Progeny" is the fact that he hesitated to even save Lex at all.

I think Clark has proven many times that his speed has developed to the point that he could've prevented everyone from injury. Hell, "Jinx" (in Season FOUR) had him going from the football field all the way to the basement (or whatever it was), untying Chloe, knocking out McPixiestick, and getting back to the field - and nothing had moved in that time frame.

[litew8]

Then he only had time to stop either the knife from hitting Lex in the shoulder, or the bullet from hitting BC directly in the chest. He chose the more dire option.



While I agree with your last statement (sentence), I do think Clark could have actually stopped the knife. I was waiting to see a little heat vision burst or a little gust of wind from super-breath.

I think he did it on purpose, knowing it wasn't dire.
I think he actually spent the time to consider it, instead of acting immediately.

[kyl-el]

Did anyone else get reminded of the "gun-fu" gun scenes from the movie "Equilibrium" when watching the fight between the Green Arrow and Lex. It was rediculously similar...but I still liked it.

[MixTKO]

Clark could have stopped both. He looked like he was thinking about it and saw it wouldn't be fatal for Lex so he just let it go.

[TheLastKryptonian]

This wasn't posted by me but it might clear up some things for people who are confused about Lex's fighting abilities. Also remember he was trained by a former marine and after he last encounter I wouldn't be surprised if he's been shaping up.

Here's the post by a guy at tv dot com

Traditionally (and by traditionally I mostly mean: in the comics) Lex is quite formidable for a human. This is largely overlooked because his main opponent is so.. well... super! His physical prowess was highlighted in an issue of All-Star Superman where Clark had an interview with Lex in prison, and they show him with his shirt off working out. He actually invites Clark to feel how hard his biceps are. Granted All-Star Superman is not mainstream continuity (neither is Smallville), but it illustrates my point.

[jimmyolsenblues]

my son is 12 and smallville is the only show we actually enjoy watching together.
and my poor son has to sit through so many love scenes to finally get a good fight scene.
My son and I loved the gunfu fighting between ollie and lex.
More action, less 90210/One tree hill plots!!!!!

[ClareKent]

When did Lex learned gun-in-hand-karate? it did looked very much like Christian Bale in Equilibrium, but I just loved it.

The thing that I still don't understand is why Clark didn't stop that knife, he could do it, but it felt like he was so tired of Lex, he just didn't wanted to.

[Kal-alien]

I liked it. At this point I don't care where Lex sprouted his suddenly Amazing Fighting Skills. He has the resources to Raise Bruce Lee from the dead to teach him Kung Fu if he wanted. So Why does it matter where he got the skills if we finally got a decent fight scene? No matter how the story goes, it's Still just a TV show written by Several people, who probably are never in the same room at the same time.

[savingpeoplething]

Loved BC and GA teaming up against Lex and thought Lex was a bad mofo with the double-gun look.

The fight at the mansion was pretty good and glad to see a fight lasting for more than 5 seconds.

Did Ollie dislocate Lex's shoulder or break his arm? I've dislocated my shoulder several times and it hurts like heck, so I would have expected Lex to scream in pain over it, but I definitely thought I heard something pop when Ollie twisted Lex's arm.

[j-kent]

definitely....it looked cool, but i couldn't help but laugh as it looked so knock off after equilibrium's. I think clark could have stopped it but he isn't always thinking on his feet every single time...from my perspective it looks like he didn't have enough time and noticed bullet to canary and knife to lex a tad too late...he did come in a split second after everything was shot. I mean he can't be everywhere at once..he's not the flash lol

[KryptonStones]

I have to admit the Lex/Ollie fight was nice. I was getting sick of Lex constantly getting smacked around and, whether it's a plot hole or not, it's nice to know that the criminal mastermind can stand toe to toe (at least for a while) with GA, making him an even more dangerous villain. And I freakin loved the dual wielding pistols scene, I didn't even care where he learned how to utilize them like that it just fel tlike such a breath of fresh air to watch.

[kal-el_Girl]

Remember that Lex Luthor can teach Lana Lang kung-fu in less than a day. He can do ANYTHING.

yes!! exactly I totally agree w/u, lex can fight he's a bad a$$, I totally believed the scene it was amazing and masterfully done
kudos to michael;)

[Super Maverick]

great fight scene

[dunkman]

The fight was cool I guess, but it was kind of hard to follow & looked too CGI for what I'm used to on Smallville. I guess after seeing Spiderman fighting Green Goblin II in "Spiderman 3" I'm not as easly impressed. It was far-out CGI, too, but it was better done.

[smallvillelogan]

But not realistic. No way should Lex be able to fight like that. Is he on some sort of drug? If he could fight like this why has he gotten beat up so many times. Why is he getting beat up in the next episode. The writing is all over the place. But at least the fight looked good. I'll give you that.

Maybe not entirely, but this is Lex that we are talking about. It seems like in his youth, Lionel put him through just about everything. He is an expert fencer, he is super-rich, obviously, and can afford to do training in other things besides fencing, like hand-to-hand combat. Remember when he taught Lana how to fight? Season 2, I think.

The fight was so freakin awesome. I loved it. It was way fast, almost CGI-like, but that's just because MR and Hartley were going at it so hard, I think. Then Canary comes in, does her thing, and then Lex with the guns crossed over his arms, and then it slows down and Clark comes in... oh man. That's one of my favorite fight scenes ever on this show. It was better than the short Clark-Zod fight, in my opinion, and in the same league as the Clark-Bizarro fights.

[NotTodayPete]

I thought it could have been done better, a little too obviously choreographed and exaggerated. Especially everytime a gun was fired, they highlighted it so blatantly,lol. All it needed was a "bladow!" and "crack!"

[smallvillelogan]

I thought it could have been done better, a little too obviously choreographed and exaggerated. Especially everytime a gun was fired, they highlighted it so blatantly,lol. All it needed was a "bladow!" and "crack!"

Well, they are just taking advantage of computer technology, I guess. They could have done "bladow!" and "crack!" for the George Reeves TV series. :lol:

[Honey45]

At first I thought the fighting scene looked cool.
But then.. it just looked cheesey for some reason.

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I thought it could have been done better, a little too obviously choreographed and exaggerated. Especially everytime a gun was fired, they highlighted it so blatantly,lol. All it needed was a "bladow!" and "crack!"

Call me stupid, but I'm glad they did that. The part where Clark came in at the end, I had trouble seeing what weapon was going where.

[litew8]

I thought it could have been done better, a little too obviously choreographed and exaggerated. Especially everytime a gun was fired, they highlighted it so blatantly,lol. All it needed was a "bladow!" and "crack!"

Actually, I think that might have been real cool!


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[Radioflyer]

It seemed out of character for Lex, too. After 7 season he can suddenly fight like that. I don't know what was up with the writers on this episode. Lex should not have been able to fight as well as Green Arrow.Actually Double L made a good point. But for consistancy yeah he shouldn't but it was established early on that he should be like Rambo but it was quickly dropped.

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The fight was cool I guess, but it was kind of hard to follow & looked too CGI for what I'm used to on Smallville. I guess after seeing Spiderman fighting Green Goblin II in "Spiderman 3" I'm not as easly impressed. It was far-out CGI, too, but it was better done.Ditto. The flair from the muzzle seemed to fallow the movement of the barrel too artifically.

[Alexander III]

That was a cool fight!

[neo0721]

it could be that lex just simply got tired of getting his butt handed to him and finally stepped up and said damnit i need to learn how to defend myself, then he called morphius and said give me the blue pill and let me see how far the rabbit hole goes
:rotfl:

[Maddie Van Horn]

loved the dual gun shot w/ lex when clark was in superspeed.

[hansioux]

i loved the fight scene.

also I think when Lex gets beaten up, normally he wasn't confronted face on. His enemies just jumped him when he least expected.

With Green Arrow, he was prepared with a gun and he dealt the first move. GA had a lot of trouble fighting Lex not just because Lex was throwing punches, but more because of Lex was about to put a hole in his head.

On the Clark thing, other than he must not have been fast enough to do all three, but also he didn't want to be seen.

He could have done all three, but then Lex would have seen him. Which is the last thing Clark wanted.

[queenelizabeth]

Lex sure can take care of himself. I thought the double gun thing was pretty sweet!

[litew8]

^ Me too. I've never seen that movie others are comparing it to (Equalibrium or whatever) - so it looked original to me. They could have shortened the gun scene up a bit, and included the original (begining) from the Director's Cut - where Canary comes in and tries to scream but Lex has preventive measures ready to counter her scream.

[smallvillelogan]

i loved the fight scene.
GA had a lot of trouble fighting Lex not just because Lex was throwing punches, but more because of Lex was about to put a hole in his head.


Very true! Whether or not Lex is a good combat fighter, he had a GUN. Two.

[smallvillefreak24]

i thought all black canary fighting was really cheesy... like the weird in the air twirls and everything.. i'll give lex his props tho

[kp1984]

Only time I remember Lex showing fighting skills was back in Run when he kick that fat guy arse. He did get knock by Chole last year with a single hit which was strange.

[aXem]

yeah the fight was cool.

and lex has never been a wimp in the show, so it's not a plot hole or anything like that at all.

[Superbeard]

Gun Kata Lex! Where did THAT come from!?!

I liked the whole "Clark having to choose which one gets shot." They were starting to make it look like he could practically move outside of time.

[Dean_19]

Lex is a billionaire. I reckon he's just hired the best martial arts trainer money can buy and been training. He constantly gets wuped and he wants to learn how to defend himself, if you can hire the best people to train you one on one for as long as you want, it would be easy..

[keeforelli]

hey guys- well i have to say for overall WOW factor the fight scene was up there with the first time i saw Matrix- the slow mo, the lightning reactions, the choreography of it- and we DO know Lex has been tough in the past- it brought smallville bang up to date in action sequences and i would EXPECT to see much more of this- i think smallville always benifits from having the green arrow in it as he goes after the bad guy rather than waiting for things to happen to him/his fmalily. friends etc......a la Clark throughout the whole seasons arc- you know your going to have fun when green arrow is on!!!

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oh...and in equilibrium the fighting with guns is known as 'GUNKHAKA'...it does look awesome...and i think this smallville scene was up there with that...