View Full Version : Clark is Heartless: Part 2
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 07:53 PM
Clark being mad at Lana didn't make sense.
She didn't know that Bizzaro wasn't Clark. Chloe didn't suspect anything for awhile.
Bizzaro actually treated Lana better than Clark and at least she was honest with him.
Then she's about to leave and he asks her to stay. Quit playing with the girl's mind Clark!!
minerva73
02-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Heartless? If he didn't tell her to leave, then I don't think it's being heartless. The look in his eyes during the final scene kinda showed that he wanted to be with Lana. He may have just been really upset and said stuff like Lionel and Lana have done recently. But it all goes away eventually. :\
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:00 PM
Lana should have taken the bag and walked off and said something to the effect of, "You seem to like me best when you don't or can't have me."
Heartless? If he didn't tell her to leave, then I don't think it's being heartless. The look in his eyes during the final scene kinda showed that he wanted to be with Lana. He may have just been really upset and said stuff like Lionel and Lana have done recently. But it all goes away eventually. :\
Exaaactly.
This episode just showed how human Clark is, because he got jealous.
It wasn't so much wrong of Lana to fall in love with Bizarro when she thought it was Clark, but he got jealous. She was happier with him, she told that right to Clark. It's only natural for a guy to feel resentment when their girl hasn't spent the last month worrying about where he is, but rather having the time of her life with a look-a-like.
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 08:04 PM
Clark gives her the cold shoulder all show and then Lana is about to leave and he gets all mushy.
Lana needs to drop him.
RobynAdele0406
02-07-2008, 08:04 PM
I agree, Clana4Life. She should have left. Because if she can honestly say that she would prefer a phantom over the real Clark, then they shouldn't be together.
And yes, Lana didn't know it was Bizarro. But once she DID know it was Bizarro, she realized she really did like this "new" Clark.
Theshadow129x
02-07-2008, 08:05 PM
Clana4life....Clark is finally developing a backbone to the leech that is lana. She's kicked that man when he was down so many times its ridiculous. its time he lashed back at her. seriously. he blames himself for all of her problems and thats terrible because even when he blames himself for her flaws she still treats him bad. he now sees that she has problems that he has nothing to do with and its time he told her off even if it was harsh because its never held her back from lashing out at him
sabi908
02-07-2008, 08:05 PM
Exaaactly.
This episode just showed how human Clark is, because he got jealous.
It wasn't so much wrong of Lana to fall in love with Bizarro when she thought it was Clark, but he got jealous. She was happier with him, she told that right to Clark. It's only natural for a guy to feel resentment when their girl hasn't spent the last month worrying about where he is, but rather having the time of her life with a look-a-like.
I don't think he was solely jealous...he was just disappointed that the supposed love of his life lived with a phantom for over a month and never even slightly detected that something was a little off about him...i mean even chloe knew that he was acting out of character. Give the guy a break. Actually scratch that...he's an idiot for going back to her in the end. If he was gonna do that, why did he even bother getting mad at her in the first place
minerva73
02-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Exaaactly.
This episode just showed how human Clark is, because he got jealous.
It wasn't so much wrong of Lana to fall in love with Bizarro when she thought it was Clark, but he got jealous. She was happier with him, she told that right to Clark. It's only natural for a guy to feel resentment when their girl hasn't spent the last month worrying about where he is, but rather having the time of her life with a look-a-like.
Yeah, I see exactly where you're coming from. That's probably another reason why he lashed out at Lana. It also gives some explanation as to why Clark got upset when she said that she and Bizarro were attending to Casey Brock when it should have been him.
I don't think he was solely jealous...he was just disappointed that the supposed love of his life lived with a phantom for over a month and never even slightly detected that something was a little off about him...i mean even chloe knew that he was acting out of character. Give the guy a break. Actually scratch that...he's an idiot for going back to her in the end. If he was gonna do that, why did he even bother getting mad at her in the first place
Clark said to Lana when they were at Isis, "You're supposed to know me better than anyone", yet it took him 5 episodes since Lana found out his secret before she got the chance of knowing how Clark felt with powers. With Lois he jumped off the side of Queen Tower and that gave her the experience, but he can't do that with Lana until she actually has to GET his powers?
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Come On! The Phantom was a much better boyfriend to Lana then Clark was.
There's a reason Lana liked him better than Clark.
Lana has come out of her shell and she told Clark the truth. This should tell Clark to shape up or ship out.
Also, it was Clark's fault he was stuck in the fortress.
RobynAdele0406
02-07-2008, 08:13 PM
Come On! The Phantom was a much better boyfriend to Lana then Clark was.
There's a reason Lana liked him better than Clark.
Lana has come out of her shell and she told Clark the truth. This should tell Clark to shape up or ship out.
So Lana liked a spineless Clark. One who catered to her every whim. So she should stop stringing Clark along and go find a man who'll do just that.
minerva73
02-07-2008, 08:15 PM
Come On! The Phantom was a much better boyfriend to Lana then Clark was.
There's a reason Lana liked him better than Clark.
Lana has come out of her shell and she told Clark the truth. This should tell Clark to shape up or ship out.
Lana hadn't felt geniunely loved by Clark in a long time and when Bizi came he loved her. That's probably why she gave in so easily. Because she was willing to do anything to get Clark with her again even if it wasn't him. She was gonna be completely oblivious to the facts and just have a happy relationship. In "Persona", Lana got herself a new nickname...the BDG. Big Dumb Girl. :\
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:22 PM
You make a good point, Minerva73. Clark doesn't do very many affectionate things with Lana. I think he's scared that it will lead to other things....and he won't take that risk, but it does create distance in their relationship. So as so many others have said - it was easy to fall for a Biz-Clark. I just wonder how Clark will be written in the next episode. Will we geat another 360. Will he completely forgive Lex and want to be friends again? Sometimes I think a show can have too many writers and not all of the are on the same page, which makes for one flip-floppy character who comes across as have random mood swings.
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 08:23 PM
Lana hadn't felt geniunely loved by Clark in a long time and when Bizi came he loved her. That's probably why she gave in so easily. Because she was willing to do anything to get Clark with her again even if it wasn't him. She was gonna be completely oblivious to the facts and just have a happy relationship. In "Persona", Lana got herself a new nickname...the BDG. Big Dumb Girl. :\
What's wrong with wanting affection from Clark when Clark tells her he loves her?
Lana was right when she said it's hard living under his self righteousness. Like being mad about Lana spying on Lex and then asking her to spy on Lex to catch the Canary.
Clark is the reason Lana was with Lex. I think peoplle have to take into account all the Drama Clark has caused in her life. From her parents death to sleeping with a phantom.
Give Lana a break Clark!
Mary Sullivan
02-07-2008, 08:25 PM
LOL, Clark already blames himself for everything she does, and people are asking him to give her a break? LOL
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Clark went overboard in this epi. And also his character seems so wishy-washy. Who can believe anything that he says? I wish they had writers who followed character-continuity.
Famous Clark lines:
"I love her. I'll always love her."
"Mom, I'm always gonna love Lana."
"I can't see myself with anyone but Lana."
"I love her so much."
"This is what I want. This is what I've always wanted to be on the farm right here with you."
Let's top it off with, "I can't see what the future holds." Right. What version of Clark is this?
minerva73
02-07-2008, 08:35 PM
You make a good point, Minerva73. Clark doesn't do very many affectionate things with Lana. I think he's scared that it will lead to other things....and he won't take that risk, but it does create distance in their relationship. So as so many others have said - it was easy to fall for a Biz-Clark. I just wonder how Clark will be written in the next episode. Will we geat another 360. Will he completely forgive Lex and want to be friends again? Sometimes I think a show can have too many writers and not all of the are on the same page, which makes for one flip-floppy character who comes across as have random mood swings.
Why do I get the feeling that he'll try something like that when he's in Lex's mind? :confused: My goodness, I hope not... Maybe the writers had time to mull out their differences while on strike.
What's wrong with wanting affection from Clark when Clark tells her he loves her?
Lana was right when she said it's hard living under his self righteousness. Like being mad about Lana spying on Lex and then asking her to spy on Lex to catch the Canary.
Clark is the reason Lana was with Lex. I think peoplle have to take into account all the Drama Clark has caused in her life. From her parents death to sleeping with a phantom.
Give Lana a break Clark!
But Clark hasn't told Lana that he loves her for 4 episodes (Wrath, Blue, Gemini, Persona).
I agree that Lana was right when she said that about Clark, but Clark isn't the reason for all of her troubles.
Lana got herself in with Lex. When Clark "broke" up with her in "Hypnotic", she ran straight to Lex and said that she's had a thousand secrets lifted off her shoulders or something. Why'd she have to go to Lex? Why not her best friend Chloe who she told about her relationship with Lex? Why not Lois who's given her advice in the SAME EXACT EPISODE? :confused:
Clark also didn't cause Lana's parent's death. I blame those faulty Kryptonian ship portal thingies... :p
Did Clark take of Lana's clothes and throw her into Bizarro and say "Have sex!"? Lana most likely took off her own clothing and had Bizarro bed her. Clark didn't tell her that they couldn't be intimate like with what Bizi was with Lana. She also took the initiative and stepped back because she knew it would be dangerous. She's responsible for everything she's done.
sabi908
02-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Clark went overboard in this epi. And also his character seems so wishy-washy. Who can believe anything that he says? I wish they had writers who followed character-continuity.
Famous Clark lines:
"I love her. I'll always love her."
"Mom, I'm always gonna love Lana."
"I can't see myself with anyone but Lana."
"I love her so much."
"This is what I want. This is what I've always wanted to be on the farm right here with you."
Let's top it off with, "I can't see what the future holds." Right. What version of Clark is this?
It's called realizing that you were stupid!
But yea Clark is a bit of a flip-flopper...the boy needs to make up his damn mind.
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Agreed, Sabi908, but I blame the writers. I'm with Minerva in hoping that they get on one accord after the strike ends.
Darth Pipes
02-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Clark's a moron. There's a difference. He also thinks only of himself. Kind of like how he didn't notice Chloe's bruises because he was doing what he does best. Whining about his relationship with Lana.
And don't get me started with Lana. She wants honesty but refuses to bring up that little Misery incident with Lionel a few months back. Where she was keeping him prisoner and that woman got killed.
kentfamily
02-07-2008, 08:42 PM
Theshadow129x, what show have you been watching? If anything, it wasthe other way around. Clark messing with Lana's mind all these years. Wanting her then dumping her and back. He had no right being angry and hurt. Yes, it seemed like she cheated on him with another man but hey Bizarro did give her wanted she wanted. Isnt that in any woman? More love and attention and Plus he was understanding? Clark is complicated like a woman. Wouldnt anyone want an easy relationship where there is no fights and disagreements? I would. Just what Lana said, it was easier. He was heartless.......Maybe Lana should have threw the Blue K on Clark instead of Bizarro.hehehe just kidding.
In the comics and the cartoons, wasn't Bizarro, a mentally challenged creation?
I agree with Clana4Life and Polomontana with what they said;););).
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:45 PM
Being in a relationship with Clark is no easy task. I love you forever today, but tomorrow I may not be able to see us together. I couldn't live like that. Reminds me of "The Prestige".
"Do you love me?"
"Not today."
I think Clark has a twin. He probably lives in the barn loft.
Darth Pipes
02-07-2008, 08:49 PM
Clark doesn't have the guts and brains to put his relationship with Lana behind her. It's never going to work and it's completely holding him back.
Kara_Zor-El
02-07-2008, 08:50 PM
Clark was perfectly fine in this epi, and so was Lana. they both said things that needed to be said. Why is Clakr to blame? He had legitimate reasons for saying what he said. Hoenstly, I think that he's really frustrated seeing now that Lana may not be the one. It's scaring him and driving him to say the truth finally to her. But she gave it rigt back, I'm proud of both of them.
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 08:53 PM
Being in a relationship with Clark is no easy task. I love you forever today, but tomorrow I may not be able to see us together. I couldn't live like that. Reminds me of "The Prestige".
"Do you love me?"
"Not today."
I think Clark has a twin. He probably lives in the barn loft.
Exactly!
You have to feel for Lana because Clark is all over the place yet she still stays with him.
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 08:53 PM
I wish Lana had asked him if he wanted to see a future with them together? I think she needs to ask him the hard questions. Do you want us to work out? Are you totally committed to making this relationship work.
Kara_Zor-El
02-07-2008, 08:56 PM
I wish Lana had asked him if he wanted to see a future with them together? I think she needs to ask him the hard questions. Do you want us to work out? Are you totally committed to making this relationship work.
I think the problem is that those are the questions he's asking himself, and for the first in forever, he doesn't have an answer. That's why he's acting the way he is.
RobynAdele0406
02-07-2008, 08:58 PM
Clark is the reason Lana was with Lex. I think peoplle have to take into account all the Drama Clark has caused in her life. From her parents death to sleeping with a phantom.
Give Lana a break Clark!
:rotfl: Clark is not the reason Lana was with Lex, because I certainly don't recall the episode where he told her to go sleep with the enemy and accept his proposal. Lana, of her own free will because she's a big girl, fell in love with Lex. She slept with him. She fell into his arms.
I guess because Clark pushed Lana away that it's suddenly his fault that instead of being on her own for a while, she decided to jump into the waiting arms of Lex.
Clark did not kill her parents. His ship didn't kill her parents. You want to blame someone, blame Jor-El for picking Smallville.
And it wasn't his fault that Jor-El locked him in an ice cube. Blame Jor-El again.
Polomontana
02-07-2008, 09:07 PM
:rotfl: Clark is not the reason Lana was with Lex, because I certainly don't recall the episode where he told her to go sleep with the enemy and accept his proposal. Lana, of her own free will because she's a big girl, fell in love with Lex. She slept with him. She fell into his arms.
I guess because Clark pushed Lana away that it's suddenly his fault that instead of being on her own for a while, she decided to jump into the waiting arms of Lex.
Clark did not kill her parents. His ship didn't kill her parents. You want to blame someone, blame Jor-El for picking Smallville.
And it wasn't his fault that Jor-El locked him in an ice cube. Blame Jor-El again.
He pushed Lana to Lex. He was being too secrative. This opened the door for Lex to manipulate Lana.
Clark should have listened to Jorel about Lara.
If Clark would listen Jonathan wouldn't be dead and he wouldn't have had a heart problem.
Clark's confusion ruins people's lives.
Lana just has the affection of a confused Kryptonian.
Clana4Life
02-07-2008, 09:10 PM
I think the problem is that those are the questions he's asking himself, and for the first in forever, he doesn't have an answer. That's why he's acting the way he is.
I see your point. It's just hard to keep a relationship going when one person has so many doubts. Maybe Lana can make up for what he lacks at this point. She seems to have enough assurance for both of them. She seems willing to fight for the relationship. After the way he acted in this episode, I would not be.
He pushed Lana to Lex. He was being too secrative. This opened the door for Lex to manipulate Lana.
He might have pushed her there, but at the same time, it was HER decision to make. It wasn't like a gun was being forced to her head, or Clark was like, "You have to go to Lex" ... it was her choice to make to be with Lex.
Clark's confusion ruins people's lives.
But at least his superpowers save people's lives, eh? :p
Mary Sullivan
02-07-2008, 09:21 PM
He might have pushed her there, but at the same time, it was HER decision to make. Word. She knew what she was getting into.
LKent113
02-08-2008, 12:26 AM
You can't completely blame Lana. She was blinded by the fact that "Clark" was finally letting her in. Can't blame the girl, Clark isnt the easiest to be with. Even though he remains alittle distant because he doesnt want to hurt her, what girl doesnt want to get close to their boyfriend? She just thought Clark had finally opened up, and let herselg go along with it. This just proves that it is possible for them, and Clark should take that hint instead of Blow up at Lana. Yeah, she made a big mistake, but she feels horrible about it, and if she knew in the first place I doubt she would have done anything. Clark can be upset, but he didnt have to be all so harsh with her. Yes, points were made, but didnt have to be so blunt and mean
Dannyblue1
02-08-2008, 12:41 AM
Yeah, man, that Clark. How dare he be honest with Lana about his thoughts and feelings. Doesn't he understand that all that matters is keeping Lana happy at all costs? Doesn't he get that lies and denial are the way to a healthy relationship?
GhostRaider
02-08-2008, 01:55 AM
In the comics and the cartoons, wasn't Bizarro, a mentally challenged creation?
Yes he was. This "Clark" version of Bizzaro is basically a separate entity from the canon versions of Bizzaro. Other than the cracked distorted face that appeared with contact to sun light ,superpowers ,and weakness to Blue K this "Clark" version of Bizzaro had nothing else in common with the other canon versions that preceded him at all.
In-fact this version had a lot more in common with another Superman foe that goes by the name of "The Parasite" than he did with the other canon versions of Bizarro. Because the Parasites MO was to basically impersonate people to accomplish his objectives. He did this by touching people and by doing that he could absorb that persons powers, memories, and appearance for days at a time. He was also intelligent and very manipulative as well unlike the canon versions of Bizarro who had the constant nack for being manipulated by others on a daily basis. Now granted the Clark Bizzaro can't continuously do this but how he came into being and his MO to this point may suggest he might have slightly been based on the Parasite as well.
But getting back on track here is all the info on Bizarro you will ever need:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizzaro
Dustmite
02-08-2008, 03:40 AM
Clark went overboard in this epi. And also his character seems so wishy-washy. Who can believe anything that he says? I wish they had writers who followed character-continuity.
Famous Clark lines:
"I love her. I'll always love her."
"Mom, I'm always gonna love Lana."
"I can't see myself with anyone but Lana."
"I love her so much."
"This is what I want. This is what I've always wanted to be on the farm right here with you."
Let's top it off with, "I can't see what the future holds." Right. What version of Clark is this?
People and feelings don't remain static forever.
Timester
02-08-2008, 04:15 AM
Clark being mad at Lana didn't make sense.
She didn't know that Bizzaro wasn't Clark. Chloe didn't suspect anything for awhile.
Bizzaro actually treated Lana better than Clark and at least she was honest with him.
Then she's about to leave and he asks her to stay. Quit playing with the girl's mind Clark!!
Question, do you know anything about relationships? Seriously, do you?
For the first time in all Smallville history, Clark and Lana did the normal thing on a relationship, which is talking about their problems, and Clark is the heartless one? Do I need to go to season 5 and remind that Lana left Smallville without telling nothing to Clark?
Both are screwed up, they don't see because they don't want to see. Clark was honest with his feelings for first time yesterday.
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