Dealing with Grant's death (Did Lois know?) [Archive] - KSiteTV Television & Movie Forums

niki

02-07-2008, 07:43 PM

Yeah I honestly was expecting a scene where she grieved ... I was thinking maybe she didn't hear about it? And then that thought grew when I realized no one at the Daily Planet really cared and were carrying on as usual ... I dunno, hopefully they'll clear things up there because I'm confused as to whether she actually knows or not!

I know she said that line "and look how that turned out" but I don't think she was referring to his death.

thehenry89

02-07-2008, 07:45 PM

I don't think she knows he's dead. I mean the editor of a major metropolitan newspaper being gunned down is big news and lana looked shocked when lionel told her.

kentfamily

02-07-2008, 07:46 PM

I dont think Lois knew he was shot. Lana knows because of Lionel.

MetroGirl06

02-07-2008, 07:48 PM

If she knew, she would have said so, so I doubt it. Lionel's probably keeping it in the down-low to prove Lex did it first.

aqgalaxy

02-07-2008, 07:50 PM

No Lois grieving for Grant but she did out her relationship with him to Clark.

Delovely

02-07-2008, 07:51 PM

I don't think Lois knows Grant is dead..

jazel

02-07-2008, 07:53 PM

I don't even think superslueth Chloe does.

minerva73

02-07-2008, 07:54 PM

I don't even think superslueth Chloe does.

:lol: Probably not. And she finds out about stuff...first. Like Isis or Bizarro.

harryandginnyfanatic

02-07-2008, 07:54 PM

She doesn't know about Grant.

skylar

02-07-2008, 08:14 PM

How in the hell is Lois suppose to grieve if she don't know Grant is dead? Besides Lois was kind of having problems with her feeling for Ollie. Oh so sad!

The Great Ymmij

02-07-2008, 08:37 PM

I don't understand how nobody knows that Grant died. He was an important person in the paper business and was shot and killed IN PUBLIC. The news people would be all over this tragedy instantly!

Eri-El

02-07-2008, 08:40 PM

I know I hope that it doesn't get forgotten about next week..............

freefall

02-07-2008, 08:40 PM

ninthdegree

02-07-2008, 08:42 PM

That's Smallville for you :lol: , they'll probably clear it up in 'Fracture'.

Mary Sullivan

02-07-2008, 08:42 PM

If she really doesn't know he's dead, that's even worse, in her mind they're still togethe and she gets with Oliver again?

Now i remembered that they broke up in Gemini.

theotherJane

02-07-2008, 08:45 PM

Like Amber mentioned, Clark wasn't the least bit surprised when she outed her relationship with Grant, which they did their best to hide.
I guess all good things happen in Offscreenville.
I think someone mentioned in another thread that Craig said on TWoP that she doesn't know yet of Grant's death.

Mary Sullivan

02-07-2008, 08:49 PM

AndiGirl

02-07-2008, 08:51 PM

Do we know for sure that Lois even knows? I mean....she could just think he got fired (which he did before he was killed) and that was the end of it. I mean, they had broken up...so she would have no reason to keep in touch with him. A clone probably wouldnt be in the obits.

superspider02

02-07-2008, 08:54 PM

Yea i am going she doesnt know and lionel covered it up somehow.

LKent113

02-08-2008, 12:29 AM

I was wondering the same thing. Grant getting shot and dying was horrible and yet this week hardly anything was mentioned. I was waiting for a bigger reaction to it, but there was really nothing. For as climactic as the revelation that Grant was a Julian clone and then killed by lex's orders, the aftermath was almost nothing.

samanta

02-08-2008, 02:24 AM

I don't think anyone knows about Grant being dead. It would be revealed in next epi becouse in Siren it would get in the way of Lollie IMO.
Though I would think Lois will mention him little more than she did. It can't be long since their break up and she was looking really sad when Grant ended it.

HowardFilms

02-08-2008, 02:16 PM

I think she knows about Grant. I think that's why she was so worried about worrying about Arrow. It was just poorly explained. Maybe a few missing lines or a scene.

queenelizabeth

02-08-2008, 03:02 PM

Yeah, probably a scene that got cut. It will be interesting to see her reaction...

smallvillelogan

02-08-2008, 03:06 PM

I was fully expecting some exposition from some main character to Lois explaining that Grant was killed. If nothing is said about her finding out that he is dead in like the next two episodes, then this is a plot hole.

tariksam

02-08-2008, 03:09 PM

Apparently NONE knows about Grants death only Lionel and now Lana. I think Linel is uncovering his death and people might think Lex fired him

minerva73

02-08-2008, 03:09 PM

Most likely not because something like that shouldn't go unnoticed. Seeing as how Lionel was basically the only one who viewed the shooting, he probably dragged Grant away and covered up all signs of his murder until he could prove that it was linked to Lex. If he was dead, then I guess that Chloe would be doing some research on it too.

tariksam

02-08-2008, 03:10 PM

None knows except for Lionel and Lana now

smallvillelogan

02-08-2008, 03:12 PM

But don't you guys think that as the just barely-fired editor of a major newspaper like the Planet the news would get out fast?

tariksam

02-08-2008, 03:13 PM

I think Lionel is uncovering his death....could be that none knows that he is death, just fired and out of town

minerva73

02-08-2008, 03:14 PM

Lionel could have just printed out a fake story saying that Grant Gabriel was on vacation since he lost his job or whatever.

PepsiMax

02-08-2008, 04:15 PM

How is it that his death is in the hush - He was the Daily Planet's editor...Lois SHOULD know - he was her boyfriend TPTB. :confused:

tariksam

02-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Cause it was the death of a Luthor not about any random dude, of course something fishy would be happening around the news of his death

Krypton935

02-08-2008, 04:23 PM

no-she doesn't know. there is no way she knows

Billy Jor-El

02-08-2008, 04:50 PM

I would think that she does, that her reaction was an off-camera moment. Grant was Editor of the DP (even if Lex pushed him out). It would be hard to supress the news of a major figure in the community of being gunned down.

Lois commented about Grant and "how that turned out," but while that can be interpreted as just meaning the break-up, I thought it highly possible that she knew he was dead. OTOH...she sure was ready to jump back into a relationship with OQ soon after Grant getting offed, so there is room for doubt. How will it serve the series to have her learn about Grant too much later..other than maybe she's the one who will investigate it and find out about Lex (since Lana refused to dig for the truth)....hmmmmm.

smallvillelogan

02-08-2008, 05:11 PM

I would think that she does, that her reaction was an off-camera moment. Grant was Editor of the DP (even if Lex pushed him out). It would be hard to surpress the news of a major figure in the community of being gunned down.

How will it serve the series to have her learn about Grant too much later..other than maybe she's the one who will investigate it and find out about Lex (since Lana refused to dig for the truth)....hmmmmm.

It will serve the series to actually have a scene that discusses her actually discovering that he is dead. That will clear up the confusion that we are having this very moment, and establish that there is not a plot-hole. Because whether she knows is anyone's guess right now.

I just believe that if she did know, then the writers would have added that sad news in addition to the depression of losing Oliver to Lois' feelings, rather than not saying anything about it.

KSiteTV

02-08-2008, 05:42 PM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

Faerus

02-08-2008, 05:46 PM

Not yet.

Im pretty sure she will get mad with Lex like in the Prototype Episode.....when Lex uses Wes as the Protoype body....

eas

02-08-2008, 05:48 PM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

Thank you for letting us know this. It helps a lot... puts the episode in better context.

ArwenChan

02-08-2008, 05:54 PM

well, I hope they make up for the lack of this episode. They will have to make it up and make it big for me. I loved grant and lois. I mean i love Oli more with her, so much so i to forgot about grant for a bit. I wish they would keep the green arrow around more. He brings alot to the show and keeps me at least wanting more with him and lois, where as im bored of lana and clark.

My thoughts are, grant is not dead. as they (daddy and him) knew lex would make that move. I think they will try and get lex in jail for atempted murder, so grant is free to be a luthor. im sure if this is the case, he will die in the end as lets face it, lex will not lose.

minerva73

02-08-2008, 06:05 PM

Cause it was the death of a Luthor not about any random dude, of course something fishy would be happening around the news of his death

That's why I think it might be hidden from everyone else. When the gunman shot Grant, only Lionel saw it. He could have dragged off Grant's body inconspiciously. And even then as the gunman ran off while texting the message to Lex, nobody seemed to show any interest in him or any interest in the shooting at all, so maybe nobody knew that there was a shooting and that got ignored. Then Lionel just put out a fake story saying that Grant is out on vacation when he doesn't appear at the Daily Planet the next day.

That's my guess of how it'll be explained. Or something to that effect.

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

That sheds a lot more light on the situation. Thanks for clearing that up and now the original question is solved. :)

Honey45

02-08-2008, 07:43 PM

I don't think she knows.
Normally in Smallville when something like this happens, they make a point of showing that everyone knows. Kind of like when Lionel was missing at the beginning of the season, they showed a newspaper with the headline "LuthorCorp CEO Missing" or something like that.

No one mentioned Grant's death except Lana to Lionel, so I think it's safe to assume no one knows. When it's out in the open, they'll make a point of showing it.

jimmyolsenblues

02-08-2008, 08:50 PM

i hope lois does not know,
if she does, it stinks, falling for ollie so quick after knowing grant died.
if lois does not know, it makes me love me some lois all the more.

borednow

02-09-2008, 12:01 AM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

Thanks, it didn't seem like it but it's nice to know for sure.

Vergon6

02-09-2008, 02:27 AM

Yeah I am glad that is cleared up. It certainly did not seem like she knew, and it's good to know that is confirmed that she didn't at the time.

Radioflyer

02-09-2008, 04:49 AM

I don't think she knows or she'd be going crazy trying to get to the bottom of it. She isn't so she hasn't heard. Lionel probably covered it up.

jimmyolsenblues

02-09-2008, 06:06 AM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

THANK YOU!

RepairmanBob

02-10-2008, 06:45 AM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.
Anothern significant plot line dealt with in Offscreenville. A lot seems to be happening on that show this year.

LoveHurts38

02-10-2008, 02:03 PM

Yea i am going she doesnt know and lionel covered it up somehow.

I agree too:)

smallvillelogan

02-10-2008, 06:02 PM

According to Erica when I interviewed her for the Season 7 book, at least at this time Lois does not know that Grant is dead... she just thinks he's skipped down.

Thanks Craig!

clana4everfan2

02-10-2008, 07:45 PM

No she doesn't know but I'm sure it will be revealed to her in a later episode.

LovelyLoisLane

02-11-2008, 02:19 PM

Lois' reaction could have been the reaction a lot of Lois fans had when Grant died . . .

Glad that's over with. :p

smallvillelogan

02-11-2008, 03:24 PM

No she doesn't know but I'm sure it will be revealed to her in a later episode.

I sure hope so or it is a glaring plot hole. I mean, as an intimate ex-girlfriend of his, Lois has to find out sometime! Unless Lex is THAT good at hiding it as CEO of the Daily Planet, and Lionel has his reasons for hiding the death. And I have confidence in Lionel hiding a secret even as big as this one, based on what he's been able to cover in the past, especially when he was his evil self.

aXem

02-12-2008, 11:17 AM

I'm glad there was no scene for this.

Don't really see it adding anything to the show.

But I never took her and grant's relationship serious anyway.

LovelyLoisLane

02-12-2008, 11:41 AM

But I never took her and grant's relationship serious anyway.

I didn't either, and I think the TPTB just wanted Lois to be keeping a 'secret' like just about everyone else on SV.

litew8

02-12-2008, 03:23 PM

LANA KNOWS. Who thinks she'll tell anyone about it? And if she doesn't, should she be expelled from the click?

Luthorism

02-13-2008, 09:22 AM

Lol.. Since from the bottom of Lois' heart, she knows she's supposed to be with Clark she doesn't give a d..n about Gabriel.. Lmao..

svtwamedfan05

02-16-2008, 10:55 AM

I don't think anyone told her

Humdinger

02-16-2008, 12:59 PM

I don't understand how nobody knows that Grant died. He was an important person in the paper business and was shot and killed IN PUBLIC. The news people would be all over this tragedy instantly!

Absolutely! But you're talking real world there. In Smallville so much stuff happens offscreen it's a wonder any of us know what's going on, let alone the characters. It's another plothole brought on by sloppy writing and thinking.

stovers

06-24-2008, 09:10 PM

I voted yes, but after reading through some of these respomses, I'm starting to rethink. People usually die or leave town, then by next week's episode, that character is forgotten. The only real grieving I can recall seeing on the show is when Johnathan died. Now that I think about it, if everyone knew Grant was shot, Lois and Chloe would have been digging for answers.

RedKRules

06-24-2008, 09:15 PM

I don´t think she knows ...

EmeraldArcher29

06-24-2008, 09:18 PM

I think she remained blissfully unaware of his death. Lois and Grant split at the end of "Gemini" and once they had established that Grant was really a Julian clone, they seemed to really solely focus on that. I kinda think it would have been making too much of his character if somewhere after "Persona" they had her grieving...we sort of saw her grieving more over both Ollie and Grant (the past relationships) and see Clark console her about them in "Siren". But toward the end of Grant's prescence on the show, he really had just become linked to Lionel and Lex, and everything else we knew about him before just seemed to be irrelevant. Grant broke up with Lois once he knew what he was, and even though a slight nod of Lois being aware of his death would have been fine, I really don't exactly think it was that necessary or anything. After all, Lois had to cope with Ollie in that episode, and then in "Fracture" she was off with Lex and Kara...I think you could definitely make the argument that she eventually found out in some capacity off-screen.