Clark acted totally out of character

[Clana4Life]

I know some people are really glad that Clark "told Lana off" but the way he did was so un-Clark like. It was like they had a whole new set of writers who just missed the ball with this one. I don't have a problem with Clark being upset, but his whole attitude was childish to me. Lana came across looking like the mature one in this episode, so did Chloe. Clark sounded like a 16 year old who was angry because his ex-girlfriend moved on with his ex-best friend. Lana was good, because I sure would have reminded him of how he told me he did not love me. I just didn't like him in this episode. The whole 360 turn when he didn't act nearly as upset last week didn't seem true. It seemed rushed and contrived. Bringing up things that happened a year and a half ago. Talking about Lana only being honest when she has too. She told the truth to who she thought was Clark! I'm not saying that Lana is a saint, but there is a way to talk to people respectfully even if you are mad. Regardless of what he said at the end, I would have been out of there. Forget packing one bag. All of my suitcases would be packed.
Lastly, if I'm dating a guy and we've talked about spending the rest of our lives together, growing old and we've professed our love for I don't know five years and then he says, "I can't see the future or I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future," that's a clear sign that I need to move on with someone who can see "us" in the future. What a great response to your girlfriend who says "I'm still fully committed to us." I say move on Lana. Talk about acting different. Is this Brainiac? :mad:

[Theshadow129x]

Clana needs to die now

[Clana4Life]

Forget Clana. Can the real Clark please come back? 'Cause I'm not lovin' this one.

[LoveHurts38]

Clana needs to die now


:rotfl:....She just needs to better written.

[clana4everfan2]

Wow Clark really told Lana off the way he did and was really bitter.. It reminded me of his bitterness when he broke up with Lana then was pissed when she got with Lex. I do think he realized how hard and hypocritical he was towards Lana when he spoke to Lois about Ollie. And realized that she couldn't accept GA's dual identity but Lana could with his secret which is why he doesn't want to lose her.

[Clana4Life]

The character of Clark needs to be written better. I think he's regressing back to Season 4 or 5. He doesn't even seem committed to Lana. It's like "hey, I can't tell the future." SO I guess whatever happens. It's like what Brad Pitt said about his marriage to Jennifer Anniston: "I'm in this marriage for as long as it works." Look how that turned out. Run, Lana, run now.

[Mary Sullivan]

Clana needs to die nowWord. As soon as possible.

[AndiGirl]

I agree, the way Clark told Lana off was a little harsh...but she needed to hear it. She's so used to Clark forgiving and forgetting. I was proud that Clark finally spoke his mind, but he didnt need to be as harsh as he was...I will agree on that,

[jimmyolsenblues]

i admit clark telling lana off was out of character, but he show folded in the end of the episode wanting lana back.

[Clana4Life]

Yeah, I didn't like that. People who have done a lot worse haven't received the verbal lashing that she got. What's up with Clark?

[kentfamily]

^^^ Clana4life I agree with you on all that you have said.

[minerva73]

In this episode, he seemed to have numerous mood swings especially during that Isis scene with Lana. I understand that he's upset with Lana telling Bizarro about Casey Brock, but like Clana4Life said his attitude did seem childish. Lana was right when she said that everyone doesn't meet Clark's standards. Even the person who he trusts with most of his secrets (Chloe), he's yelled at her numerous times like in "Noir" when she refused to tell him about why Lana did some of that stuff.

At least Clark tried to take some sort real responsibility by making it known that he's also part of the reason why Lana was with Bizi like that. That's how I saw the final scene.

[wolverine316]

I am soooo happy when Clark told Lana off. You fell in love with Lex and Bizarro. What the @$#% is the matter with you? Clark always holds everything in. He finally unloaded on Lana on her stupidity and selfishness.

[Theshadow129x]

Forget Clana. Can the real Clark please come back? 'Cause I'm not lovin' this one.


I think Clark acted correctly. I would be the same way if she said you were more understanding and affectionate when i thought he was you. she was basically saying you're a jerk all time its nice for a straight month you werent.

[Clana4Life]

He certainly seemed like a jerk in this episode. Like I said, there's a way to talk to a person respectfully even if you are upset and I think he was very disrespectful, not to mention childish. I agree, it was like he had a thousand mood swings. Running to Chloe and whining. Avoiding talking to Lana but talking to CHloe about the situation. Chloe's like, "Are we still in high school? Deja vu. This seems so 11th grade."

[RobynAdele0406]

Please, she deserved to be told off. She WANTED Bizarro, even after she knew it was the phantom and not Clark. Not only that, but Clark finally called her on sleeping with the enemy... twice now. What does she expect? She lies to him, when they agree to have no more secrets between them.

Clark grew a spine tonight. If you prefer spineless, mindless, Lana-worshipping Clark, then by all means, pop in ANY dvd from the previous seasons. But this Clark? Is a winner.

[Clana4Life]

Sorry, we'll have to agree to disagree on that RobynAdele0406. I do not think men who talk to women like that are winners. Be mad at Lana, but talk to her with respect. That's all I'm saying.

[AndiGirl]

In all fairness to Clark though...Lana dished it right back. Some of the things she said were just plain hurtful. So she isnt innocent in this....and Clark did have every right to confront her. But most of the time he looked like a child throwing a fit...

[WickedJenn]

I know some people are really glad that Clark "told Lana off" but the way he did was so un-Clark like. It was like they had a whole new set of writers who just missed the ball with this one. I don't have a problem with Clark being upset, but his whole attitude was childish to me. Lana came across looking like the mature one in this episode, so did Chloe. Clark sounded like a 16 year old who was angry because his ex-girlfriend moved on with his ex-best friend. Lana was good, because I sure would have reminded him of how he told me he did not love me. I just didn't like him in this episode. The whole 360 turn when he didn't act nearly as upset last week didn't seem true. It seemed rushed and contrived. Bringing up things that happened a year and a half ago. Talking about Lana only being honest when she has too. She told the truth to who she thought was Clark! I'm not saying that Lana is a saint, but there is a way to talk to people respectfully even if you are mad. Regardless of what he said at the end, I would have been out of there. Forget packing one bag. All of my suitcases would be packed.
Lastly, if I'm dating a guy and we've talked about spending the rest of our lives together, growing old and we've professed our love for I don't know five years and then he says, "I can't see the future or I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future," that's a clear sign that I need to move on with someone who can see "us" in the future. What a great response to your girlfriend who says "I'm still fully committed to us." I say move on Lana. Talk about acting different. Is this Brainiac? :mad:

I hear you.

Clark used to be "I love her so much" (he told that to Chloe in season 5), and even of the beginning of this season about growing old together, though I think she said that...he agreed.

I was not expecting him to say that thing about the future, even though I knew he hated the whole Bizarro thing and what went down at Isis in this epi. You can see how everything's changed.

[Deana]

Clark was holding his feelings in about how he felt about the whole Bizarro incident. When she came at him all defiance, the dam just burst. I am actually shocked he didn't say more harsher things.

[RobynAdele0406]

Sorry, we'll have to agree to disagree on that RobynAdele0406. I do not think men who talk to women like that are winners. Be mad at Lana, but talk to her with respect. That's all I'm saying.

Were the things he said false? I honestly don't blame him for snapping this time. After letting everything she did with Lex (stealing from him and torturing Lionel and faking her own death, not even telling her friends what she was doing, letting them worry and cry over her) slide (and I mean really slide, everything was pretty much peachy the following week, if memory serves) and then now this, he should speak up.

And don't paint Lana as the victim here, she's said some particularly mean and hurtful things to him in the past that he's just let slide as well. Something along the lines of "I don't know how I could have ever loved you." And sleeping with Lex, falling in love with him...

Clark has taken a LOT from Lana. It's time he speak up.

[niki]

Clark was holding his feelings in about how he felt about the whole Bizarro incident. When she came at him all defiance, the dam just burst. I am actually shocked he didn't say more harsher things.

True say! Sure, some of the things he said might have sounded really disrespectful, and the way he behaved when she said "Good morning" showed that too ... but then at the end of the episode, you could see that he got the sense knocked back into him, respect-wise.

[Clana4Life]

How was she defiant? He came to her asking her for info on Lex, when he was the one that all but demanded she stop watching Lex. The dam just burst without much pushing (if any). It was just a 360 from last weeks "This is all my fault, I'm so sorry." So which is it? The writers can't keep flip-flopping his character. Either he's sorry or his mad. Either he thinks it's his fault, or he thinks it's her fault. I just felt like this was a different Clark. I attribute it to the writer.

[you_smell_terrific]

I disagree. I think Clark has a lot of things that he never says and with the recent events its been bottling. I think it just came out and the bitterness he probably still has over Lexana came out with it. I think it was completely in character and I liked that Clark was a little more real and open with his emotions for once. That's my take on it anyway.

[Clana4Life]

I hope so Niki. I guess we'll see on the next epi. Hopefully he won't act like this when he becomes Superman. I can see it now - some old woman's cat gets stuck in a tree. After he rescues it, he tells her: "No don't let your stupid cat get out anymore because I don't have time for stupid crap like this. Where's Chloe? I need to go whine to her about stupid old people."

[WickedJenn]

I also think though, that Clark told Lana what she needed to hear at Isis. I noticed though, he didn't mention he was on Red K when he told Lana about his crimes.

[RobynAdele0406]

How was she defiant? He came to her asking her for info on Lex, when he was the one that all but demanded she stop watching Lex. The dam just burst without much pushing (if any). It was just a 360 from last weeks "This is all my fault, I'm so sorry." So which is it? The writers can't keep flip-flopping his character. Either he's sorry or his mad. Either he thinks it's his fault, or he thinks it's her fault. I just felt like this was a different Clark. I attribute it to the writer.

He did think it was his fault, and probably still does, but guilty about Bizarro taking over his life while he was gone. Once he realized that she wanted Bizarro, I very much doubt he felt guilty.

And I too felt this was a different Clark. One I liked. He actually stood up for himself.

If your SO were to tell you that while you were gone, she fell in love with someone else and felt better being with him/her, you wouldn't act like he did?

[Deana]

How was she defiant? He came to her asking her for info on Lex, when he was the one that all but demanded she stop watching Lex. The dam just burst without much pushing (if any). It was just a 360 from last weeks "This is all my fault, I'm so sorry." So which is it? The writers can't keep flip-flopping his character. Either he's sorry or his mad. Either he thinks it's his fault, or he thinks it's her fault. I just felt like this was a different Clark. I attribute it to the writer.She was already pissed over doing research for Lionel, so when Clark came in, she was not all happy go lucky to help him. That was a bad move for woman who was living with her boyfriend's evil clone for a month.

One can say that they forgive something, but that doesn't mean one is telling the whole truth.

[Clana4Life]

Well, if my SO fell in love with who he thought was me, I don't know how mad I could really be at him. I'd understand that he thought it was me. I wouldn't go all, "I can't see the future."

[Brizzle]

Clark is not a good character anymore, he is just regressing more an more, he is retarded still, still needs chloe. I mean Kara is smarter than him. By far he is the worst written character this year.

[RobynAdele0406]

Well, if my SO fell in love with who he thought was me, I don't know how mad I could really be at him. I'd understand that he thought it was me. I wouldn't go all, "I can't see the future."

But that's not what happened. After she KNEW it wasn't him, she still wanted Bizarro. She prefered a Clark who's life revolved around her. Who bedded her and offered to sweep her off to travel the world. Hey, sounds like a sweet deal, can't blame the girl for wanting a Clark like that.

But if that's the Clark she wants, then she's out of luck, because that's not the Clark she's going to get. Clark knows that. He knows he can't be the guy that Lana wants. Clark's got a destiny. Bizarro didn't. Lana wanted a guy who's only purpose in life was to serve her.

But Clark should just bend over and accept that Lana would prefer being with Bizarro.

[Deana]

Well, if my SO fell in love with who he thought was me, I don't know how mad I could really be at him. I'd understand that he thought it was me. I wouldn't go all, "I can't see the future."I would hope that the one I fell in love with would see that I was acting to strange to be my true self. Of all the bazaar crap going on in Smallville, Lana should've known. There was a freaking clone of her this very season(at least in the recap of last season). We saw said clone being blown to Hell and back.

It was naive to believe that Clark would just forgive and forget. It is never that easy.

[Clana4Life]

I don't think Lana wants that. I think that was shown at the end. Clark in essence thanked her for putting up with his double life style, saying that he knows it isn't always easy. She seems fine with his double life. She seems not so fine with the lack of affection and distance that Clark shows.

[minerva73]

I also think though, that Clark told Lana what she needed to hear at Isis. I noticed though, he didn't mention he was on Red K when he told Lana about his crimes.


Like Martha said in "Crimson", Clark being on Red K doesn't mean that Clark hasn't had it on his mind. He probably did have all those things on his mind at one time, but never went through with it until his exposure. I'm surprised he hasn't spoken about his rage towards Lionel and Lex when he's the one who scolds her for going after them...

[Clana4Life]

Exactly, Minerva. I did not like this version of Clark. Seems very inconsistent. I don't think the whole "I'm mad at you, I'm not going to talk to you" approach is a good one. I don't know that Clark is ready for an adult relationship. After this episode, I'm starting to think he's still stuck in a high school mentality. If he's mad, he runs to his best friend Chloe and whines about it for a week, instead of talking to the woman who's living in his house. If they were married, is this what he would do? People may not like the things that Lana has done in the past, but she seems more mature to me than Clark.

[paolinki25]

You mean Clark is out of character when he gets his balls back and actually has a spine?

[Clana4Life]

So, Paolinki25, you think that tonight's episode was consistent with the way Clark usually acts?

[ClarksGal]

Clark telling off Lana was long overdue. In fact, I look forward to more of it in the future.

[superspider02]

Yea clark is/was mad at lana about the whole biz thing. It was nice to see him tell her off for once. WE will jsut have to see what happens with there relationship. Personally i alway hated lana and clark together. I have always been a clark and chloe fan myself. But they need to end their relationship and get on even ground so they can still be good friends.

[minerva73]

Exactly, Minerva. I did not like this version of Clark. Seems very inconsistent. I don't think the whole "I'm mad at you, I'm not going to talk to you" approach is a good one. I don't know that Clark is ready for an adult relationship. After this episode, I'm starting to think he's still stuck in a high school mentality. If he's mad, he runs to his best friend Chloe and whines about it for a week, instead of talking to the woman who's living in his house. If they were married, is this what he would do? People may not like the things that Lana has done in the past, but she seems more mature to me than Clark.

I think he might have been ready for an adult relationship, but this episode just contradicted everything. There is the possibility of it being Brainiac, but he wouldn't know half of the stuff that Clark said in this episode so that's most likely wrong.

[ClarksGal]

But that's not what happened. After she KNEW it wasn't him, she still wanted Bizarro. She prefered a Clark who's life revolved around her. Who bedded her and offered to sweep her off to travel the world. Hey, sounds like a sweet deal, can't blame the girl for wanting a Clark like that.

But if that's the Clark she wants, then she's out of luck, because that's not the Clark she's going to get. Clark knows that. He knows he can't be the guy that Lana wants. Clark's got a destiny. Bizarro didn't. Lana wanted a guy who's only purpose in life was to serve her.

But Clark should just bend over and accept that Lana would prefer being with Bizarro.


You hit the nail on the head with that one.

[Clana4Life]

I think he might have been ready for an adult relationship, but this episode just contradicted everything. There is the possibility of it being Brainiac, but he wouldn't know half of the stuff that Clark said in this episode so that's most likely wrong.

I wish that it was Brainiac. It's like Clark stepped back into Season 5. Is that what fans can expect now, a slow regressing Clark? If so, end the series this season.

[svtwamedfan05]

Clark was hurt, how do you expect him to act. The one person he has loved since he was a child admitted that she liked a fake Clark. Even after she knew it was not the real Clark she still admitted that she loved a killer. Clark was hurt, give the guy a break. He is now slowly relazing him and Lana aren't meant to be. Clark just needs to become Lana's friend and end it at that. No more of this Clana drama flip-flop mess. Its not high school anymore and he is slowly starting to realize that now. Good for him.

[Ilovebeinglost]

It's about time he let it all out!!!!!

Like his mother said in crimson, he keeps everything bottled up. How the hell can she fall in love with Lex. No excuse for that.

[Clana4Life]

Is he, Svtwamedfan05? Cause at the end it looked like he flip flopped again. "I don't want it be over."
Clark doesn't want it to be over or under.

[svtwamedfan05]

Like I said its a very slow process, considering how long he has liked her

[litew8]

I think the OP is upset that Clark is not acting like Lana's girlfriend.

[Lexgirl33]

I found it hilarious that he was all mopey, damn Clark be a man! :lol:

[BadToad]

I loved that Clark told Lana off, and I thought he was absolutely correct. Lana was the one that harped on him about secrets and lies FOR YEARS. So, now that she has a Clark that is honest with her, she decides she's all about secrets and lies. And Clark forgave her for that. And Clark has shown an effort with Lana, reassuring her several times this season, so I don't buy all that bull about him not being understanding enough. Lana liked Bizarro because he kissed her butt and told her everything she wanted to hear. And didn't have a life outside of her. Its not that different then how she first acted with Lex. Well, Clark can't give her that type of singular affection, and if she can't handle that, then why is she there? If she liked Bizarro better, then by all means, she should go out and find a guy that will cater to her whims 24/7.

In this episode, she probably would'nt have been honest with Clark at all had Lionel not blackmailed her.

I also think Lana needs to stop with the whole "the only person I've ever loved" stuff. Didn't she love Whitney? Jason? Lex? Bizarro? Thats just a manipulative thing to pull out, and its clearly untrue.

At the end, I think Clark wants to try to mend fences between them. I see nothing at all wrong with that. Rebuilding trust is the first step. But I think with the amount of water under the bridge its perfectly natural and understandable and realistic that he's having doubts that he and Lana are forever. Not only due to the problems in their relationship, but due to the instability and unpredictability of his life. And to me, thats Clark showing maturity. Grown-ups know that not every relationship ends the way you want it to. I think Clark, and Lana, are just coming to this realization.

[litew8]

I found it hilarious that he was all mopey, damn Clark be a man! :lol:

Mopey? I guess I could see that somewhat. I mostly thought he was really ticked off (real bad) - but was holding back his anger.

[ajfinn]

I thought they really needed to have it out like they did - just spill all their frustration - which was what made that last scene so genuine. By far the best chemistry between those two all season! Both in the bitter and the make-up scene.

I'm totally back into this show now - tonight felt all around genuine Smallville and I had really missed that. I loved this episode.

[GhostRaider]

I think the OP is upset that Clark is not acting like Lana's girlfriend.

Agreed LOL!!!!

You know when it comes to the character of Clark on this show it's always going to be a case of "damned if you do or damned if you don't" with most of the fans here.

Personally I have absolutely no problem with what he said to Lana after her not living up to his standards spiel. I hate to break it to her failings in his eyes aren't just the minor everyday transgressions that normal people do. Now albeit she is trying to do good she going about it in the wrong way using quasi Luthor tactics to achieve her goals which was leading her down a dark path. Hell everyone saw it from Chloe, to Lionel, heck even Clark's cloned mother saw it after only spending a couple of minutes with her lol!!!!

Clark was totally right in what he said and Lana basically agreed with what he said later in the show when she had her conversation with Lionel in which she admitted to Lionel that Clark had pulled her back from the edge. Sometimes hard words and truths are the only way to wake people up before the destroy themselves and from the results of tonights episode it looks like Clark's words finally worked on Lana. Now only time will tell through her actions in the next episodes if she was telling the truth.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Clark has been getting dumped on time and time again, repetitively taking on the blame for himself . .

'this is all my fault' 'if it wasn't for me this wouldn't have happened' 'I caused all this'

When many times Lana screwed up entirely on her own. She was full of BS calling Clark a hypocrite when she's the one that got after him to be honest when she was still keeping secrets from him. He finally called her on that. He's right, she only told him the truth in the eleventh hour because she was worried about how it was affecting her.

I was glad he finally stopped being a door mat and held her accountable for her own mistakes. He didn't have to be Red K to do it either, this was genuine Clark and it was satisfyingly refreshing.

[BadToad]

You know when it comes to the character of Clark on this show it's always going to be a case of "damned if you do or damned if you don't" with most of the fans here.

Ain't that the truth! ;)

[Clana4Life]

Ain't that the truth! ;)

The same is true with Lana.

[ginnyfan]

Clark was holding his feelings in about how he felt about the whole Bizarro incident. When she came at him all defiance, the dam just burst. I am actually shocked he didn't say more harsher things.

Oh thank you! I completely disagree that Clark was out of character. As Deana says, Clark bottles up his feelings. This is actually wonderful progression that Clark DOESN'T have to be on Red K to really say what he feels. The funny thing is that Lana was the one courageous enough to bring up that time with Bizarro. Clark was just going to walk away coldly and say nothing. Anyway, Clark was completely in character. Nothing of what he said amounted to not loving Lana. A lot of what he said was true and some of it was just blowing off steam. I think it all does come down to what Lana wants and who does she want to see when she looks in the mirror. How mature of Clark to realize that it's not about him.

At then end when Clark talks about the crimes he's committed, I feel like it's the first time Clark has met Lana half way and Lana has come to him truthfully. I guess it's one thing to say "no more secrets, no more lies" and something else to actually get there. In this episode they've finally gotten to where they are starting to own up to things and really reach a place from which their relationship can progress honestly.

Clark's outbursts led to a ray of sunshine for Clana if you ask me.


I also think though, that Clark told Lana what she needed to hear at Isis. I noticed though, he didn't mention he was on Red K when he told Lana about his crimes.

Very good point. Clana is not meant to be. Also her statement to Lionel that sometimes Justice has to be sacrificed for a relationship. HUH?! LOL! Lana really got justice and revenge confused.

[jazel]

why can't Lana, just go away quietly......Pete's still in Kansas, right ?
I honestly feel nauseous, when they keep shoving it down my throat.:(

[tariksam]

Agree 100% that he was OOC......cause for once Clark has his balls back......then he returned them to lana and he is the same Clark as ever......

[do3mire]

Agree 100% that he was OOC......cause for once Clark has his balls back......then he returned them to lana and he is the same Clark as ever......

Nah! He was totally in character! He'd be OOC if he's stayed mad and kept his balls. The fact that he gave them back to Lana (and all in the same episode!!!) is proof he's still the same Clark. CLANA LIVES!!!

[Javierocker]

I think Clark may have seemed immature in the beginning, but fact is what person doesn't act that. I am 25, my mother is 58 and we both have acted that way because when U are angry at someone u generally don't want 2 speak with them. Clark going 2 Chloe, well that is what people tend 2 do in the same situation, find someone 2 talk 2 about the situation and get their input, and yes people whine or sound harsh because they are hurt. Though you may see it as immature, fact is that everyone does regardless of their age, its just human nature and guess what Clark was raised among humans and has human traits. Clark was indeed out of character with the fact that he choose not 2 just let this go. like he let everything else go. Fact is that what Clark usually does is immature, since a mature person does not keep things bottled up and why Lana get another slap on the rest. She's been given nothing but slaps on the rest, fact is that you are responsible for your own actions, and should face the consequences for those actions. Lana choose 2 leave in fantasy again, she did not learn her lesson from lex which is that u can't just buy into someone simply because they tell you what you want 2 hear. Clark called her on all of this and while it may have been harsh sometimes you have 2 be that way, its the only way 2 get a person 2 wake up 2 reality. Lana got 2 express how hurt and angry she was with Clark at the end of season 5/ start of season 6 and Clark understands this and put it behind him. If she has a right 2 express herself so does he and he is hurting since not only could she not tell the difference, but she preferred Bizzaro over Clark and that is very hurtful. On top of that she was not willing 2 share anything with him yet opened right up 2 Bizzaro, how he is suppose 2 take that. Its not like he is a telepath who can see the events of Gemini and how Bizzaro got Lana 2 show him everything, Clark can only go by what he knows, same with Lana back in Season 5 and 6, neither of them can read the others mind, not saying it excuses some their actions either, but cut people some slack here, especially Clark.

[ginnyfan]

Lana choose 2 leave in fantasy again, she did not learn her lesson from lex which is that u can't just buy into someone simply because they tell you what you want 2 hear.

Wow! You hit the nail on the head here. Good post.

[Dustmite]

Clark wasn't out of character at all. He didn't swear or insult Lana so I don't understand why some are so upset by the way he spoke to her. He only told the truth and I'm glad he did. Lana is never called out on anything she does by Clark and this was long overdue.

[Timester]

Clark wasn't OOC yesterday, he was OOC in the rest of the show. Yesterday we saw the true Clark, the stubborn "I don't take crap from anyone" Clark that we saw in "L&C" and in the comics. Too bad the wimp Clark came back in the end of the episode, but that is the plot device to build the friendship up.

[lexs&os]

I'm in the camp that loved how Clark dealt with Lana. They've both grown up and are different characters than they first were in the early seasons. I don't think he was out of line and in fact, loved how he didn't let Lana have the last word - she's had it too many times, IMO. It's time for the romance part of Clana to be done, for really real this time - I'd be seriously irritated and ranting if Clark had just not said anything - yet again.

[Guidron]

I'm also on the side of those that liked how Clark dealt with Lana. As someone else said, it's about time he stopped bottling things up and let it out. I'm not saying that Clark is not at fault here, he's done a ton of things wrong too. I hope he's finally realizing that his relationship with Lana has been based on infatuation and not love. Neither of them can live up to what the other expects of them.

[ClareKent]

I liked it the way Clark handled the whole situation, he acted pretty mature to me, what else could he do after Lana spended a month with another guy and confessed she loved him more than to Clark.
I didn't liked Clark holding Lana back when she was about to leave, but, well, if he didn't, it would have been just too weird.

[eas]

I'm going to preface my comments with this: I give you props for coming to K-site to discuss your POV even though you know that the majority of the people on this board are going to completely disagree. :)


I know some people are really glad that Clark "told Lana off" but the way he did was so un-Clark like. It was like they had a whole new set of writers who just missed the ball with this one. I don't have a problem with Clark being upset, but his whole attitude was childish to me. Lana came across looking like the mature one in this episode, so did Chloe.

I disagree. For the first time, Clark was sounding like he's taken his blinders off and is focusing on his real feelings for Lana. He is allowing himself to be angry with her and to be disappointed in her.

Any mature relationship has its ups and downs. No relationship can be a healthy one is one person is always excusing the other person's behavior & turning a blind eye to all faults.

The relationship wouldn't work if they didn't have moments where they were angry at each other and they felt they couldn't vent.

And, in Clark's case, he had valid reasons to be angry at Lana. He had valid reasons to be confused about the status of their relationship. And it took a lot of maturity on his part to go from Lois's place (where he saw the effects Ollie's dual identity had on her) and decide to try to make it work with Lana & meet her halfway.


Clark sounded like a 16 year old who was angry because his ex-girlfriend moved on with his ex-best friend. Lana was good, because I sure would have reminded him of how he told me he did not love me. I just didn't like him in this episode. The whole 360 turn when he didn't act nearly as upset last week didn't seem true. It seemed rushed and contrived. Bringing up things that happened a year and a half ago. Talking about Lana only being honest when she has too. She told the truth to who she thought was Clark! I'm not saying that Lana is a saint, but there is a way to talk to people respectfully even if you are mad. Regardless of what he said at the end, I would have been out of there. Forget packing one bag. All of my suitcases would be packed.

She did tell the truth to who she thought was Clark -- but only when it seemed like Clark really wanted to know & he wasn't going to judge her. They were pretty obvious about showing that.

And she straight up told Clark that she was happier, in some ways, with Bizarro because he listened to her more and he was more affectionate, with less judgement.

Can you honestly tell me that any man is going to handle that well? A girl tells you that she liked the evil twin version of you more and you're going to go, "Oh, but that's fine, honey. I'll be more like him, then."


Lastly, if I'm dating a guy and we've talked about spending the rest of our lives together, growing old and we've professed our love for I don't know five years and then he says, "I can't see the future or I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future," that's a clear sign that I need to move on with someone who can see "us" in the future. What a great response to your girlfriend who says "I'm still fully committed to us." I say move on Lana. Talk about acting different. Is this Brainiac? :mad:

He's being honest with her. The whole problems with their relationship is honesty, right? So he does her a disservice if he lies and says, "Yeah, right, of course we'll be together forever and forever....".

Real relationships don't work like that. Mature, adult, relationships have a lot of shades of gray. Even people who have been married for decades can have a fight and think, "I'm not meant to be with this person." A friend of mine just left her husband of 8 years on the basis of a fight. She packed her bags and left the country. She still loves him and he still loves her. But they can't seem to find their way past their pride and the hurt they've caused each other.

[Valerie]

Finally Lana is knocked off her pedestal in Clark's eyes! I think this is the first time I have ever seen him angry with her, and not having him blame outside forces for her behavior.

As for him being immature, well when strong emotions are involved very few of us can retain enough emotional distance to act in a completely mature manner. I didn't see his outburst or behavior as being immature, so much as a reaction to being hurt and disappointed.

To be honest Clark being angry with Lana instead of letting her walk all over him as usual made me like both Clark and Lana more.

[wolverine316]

I don't think Lana wants that. I think that was shown at the end. Clark in essence thanked her for putting up with his double life style, saying that he knows it isn't always easy. She seems fine with his double life. She seems not so fine with the lack of affection and distance that Clark shows.


You go on and on about Clark acts like he is still in high school but yet as you mentioned in the final scene what Clark did was admit his follies as well. So which is it? Is Clark mature or is he still a child?

[diinIN]

I know some people are really glad that Clark "told Lana off" but the way he did was so un-Clark like. I don't have a problem with Clark being upset, but his whole attitude was childish to me. Lana came across looking like the mature one in this episode, so did Chloe.

I totally disagree. What he did was called TOUGH LOVE. It wasn't HE who was condemning her, it was her own conscience, and he helped her realize that. He didn't even tell her off. He just got tough with her, and she obviously needed that, as evidenced by the end of the episode when she wanted to turn back. We'll see how long that lasts.

[Clana4Life]

You go on and on about Clark acts like he is still in high school but yet as you mentioned in the final scene what Clark did was admit his follies as well. So which is it? Is Clark mature or is he still a child?

Wolverine, the post that you are citing was in reference to someone else's post. They were saying that Lana was holding Clark back or something to that effect. I was not using it as a way to say that Clark was acting mature. I think the majority of the episode showed him quite immature. Nevertheless, there were moments when he wasn't spouting off in anger and whining about his relationship with Lana.

I'm of the opinion that if you have a problem, deal with it then. I understand that Clark was angry about Biz and Lana. Fine. He dealt with that shortly thereafter (albeit in the wrong fashion, but that's just my opinion). I do not think he should bring up incidents from about two years ago, namely Lex. I think Lana handled that very maturely, seeing that her break up with him is what drove her to Lex. And he knows how greatly she suffered in that relationship - and she did so, namely to protect him from Lionel. That was the only reason she married Lex in the first place. I would have kindly reminded him of that, since he obviously wanted to bring up incidents from the past to throw in her face. I would have also reminded him of all the lies he told and utterly stupid things he did that hurt her while they were in a relationship. He was the cause of a great deal of pain for her in Season 5. He told her that he did not love her and had basically fallen out of love with her. To me he has not right to judge her for how she handled the pain. You don't screw a person over, utterly break their heart and then tell them who they can and can't see. The girl almost killed herself (unintentionally) in the next episode by trying to find someone (her parents) to connect with.

Anger is fine. Clark can get angry just like everyone else. But to me he was OOC because his anger (and even Superman's anger) is tempered with compassion and a non-judgmental attitude. I felt like all we saw was his anger and need to cause another hurt where he has been hurt. True, some people would react this way, and a great deal do when they are angry and want to inflict pain, but Clark has never acted like this in the past and I expected something a little different from Clark Kent/future Superman. His end game in this episode (prior to the last 2-3 minutes) was just to make Lana hurt and go off. It was not to have a rational discussion or talk about the state of their relationship.

[DeesRyche]

I think CK's behavior last night was more in line with the SM/CK I've grown up with than the whiny broody character that has been Ck for some time now.

Clana is upposedly true love, right?
Points:

1. Lana did not deny to Clark that she loved Lex or the Phantom (both at points she still loved Clark). This of course comes after her proclamation I've never really loved anyone but you...or something to that effect. (C'mon Lana...you're an adult... which is it?)


2. It's Clark fault that she "fell in love" with Lex she also told Lex when she accepted his proposal that she loved Lex and Clark. Really, my educated guess, would be (despite warnings from Lana's inner circle) tells me that Lana (a) knew enough about Lex to stay out of his snares (b) could have used the time apart between S5 and S6 to find out what she really wanted for herself and/or (c) found some other hapless male to fawn over her if she was that hard up for attention/affection.

Lana's love for Clark has always wavered and now after 7 years she finally realizes what might have been with Clark.

3. My last point about the Clana "true love" ties back to trust. This point was made pretty clear in Siren. It's almost 7 and 1/2 years later in TV time and they just now want to learn to trust each other.

That's the overall problem with Clana...relationships need to have a solid ground to begin with. Siren shows that Clana after 7.5 years still don't even trust each other....sad. Even more sad, are those that believe this relationship resembles anything close to true love.

Idealistic, infatuated love...yeah I could buy that about Clana.

I am not even a Clana fan but I do give props to CK for trying to work it out, for getting those feelings off of his chest, and for not making wistful promises about being with Lana forever. I could almost feel character progression.

[KryptonStones]

Not to start an argument here but in Clark's defense, it was Lana's choice to run after Lex after the break up. I understand she was hurt and confused, but she chose Lex, OUT OF ALL PEOPLE, and by the time she found out what she had gotten herself into it was too late. Lana knew the deteriorating friendship between Clark and Lex, but still went for him. A part of the reason was because she probably, genuinely, felt a strong connection for the man, but a big chunk of that reason was due to Clark and utter rejection. And please, let us not forget the big KISS she laid on Lex in WRATH. After all the man has done to him, why in the blue hell would she kiss him? WHAT kind of ulterior statement was she trying to make with that action? I'm not saying that Clark should be off the hook, or he should be given some special treatment, because the fact is he was the cause of a great deal of pain Lana suffered in season 5, I agree, but we can't ignore her own questionable choices either.

As for being angry, he had every right to be anger and no, I FEEL, that wasn't out of character for him. If Lana was in Clark's position, she'd probably even more ruthless and much less understanding than he's being right now. Here she is singing the same tune to the guy, "I was happier with an uninhibited, instinctual, murderous version of you, and yet you're the only man I've ever loved," are you kidding? Did she even mention the kiss to Clark? Imagine what Clark would say if he knew about it? Imagine your own reaction if put into that position. What was he supposed to say? Lana was telling him a bunch of BS and he called her out on it, something I have NEVER, in the seven seasons of SV, seen him do. I do want a Superman who can still be angered, and express it compassionately and with a non-judgmental attitude, but I also want him to be a bit more assertive and not hold back what he's truly feeling all the time.

[supergirl28]

I guess I'm not the only one that thinks that Clark was totaly out of place. Clark has never yelled at Lana like that ever!

[Kalista]

Not to start an argument here but in Clark's defense, it was Lana's choice to run after Lex after the break up. I understand she was hurt and confused, but she chose Lex, OUT OF ALL PEOPLE, and by the time she found out what she had gotten herself into it was too late.

I agree with most of what you said except for Lana realizing too late what she had gotten into. Lana should have seen the football field sized red flag in Sneeze. When she discovered that her private moments were being recorded she had the perfect opportunity to walk away or at least reevaluate their relationship. She chose to accept Lex's flimsy excuse and pursue the relationship. And since, every man that comes within a fifty mile radius of Lana falls under her spell, she could have chosen someone, ANYONE other than Lex. She made a conscious decision to date Lex because she wanted to hurt Clark and ultimately paid the price for her foolish choice. I don't feel sorry for Lana at all.

----- Added 47 Seconds later -----


Clark has never yelled at Lana like that ever!

It was long overdue.

[LovelyLoisLane]

It was long overdue.

I agree. If Clark had let Lana have it when she deserved the blame before now instead of piling it on himself, he might not have gotten so mad, but it was nice to see him sticking up for himself and not taking a hit for Lana's mistakes.

They've both made mistakes in their relationship, that is obvious, but Lana very rarely takes the blame for it and Clark very rarely doesn't skewer himself with blame. This evened the field out . . . a little.

[BadToad]

Clark only brought up Lex in response to Lana's manipulative nonsense about him being the only person she really loved. Clark can take the blame for breaking up with Lana, and he has. How Lana choose to act after that, and respond to it, and who she decided to hook up with is on Lana. And over the years, in the course of their relationship, Lana had made it quite clear to Clark on several occasions that he was a disappointment to her. She's torn into him on numerous occasions, most recently in Wrath where she was nothing short of vicious. Her lame excuse at the end "it was the powers" was a bunch of crap, and I think Clark knew it. At least he should. And for once, Clark just had enough.

And lets not forget she hooked up with Lex while under no threat. She moved in with Lex while under no threat. She slept with Lex under no threat. She initially agreed to marry Lex under no threat. Turning the Lexana into just Lana marrying Lex to protect Clark leaves out a huge part of the whole relationship. Thats where it ended up. It started quite differently.


The girl almost killed herself (unintentionally) in the next episode by trying to find someone (her parents) to connect with.

And lets not forget that Clark actually DID die trying to save her from her self-destructive path. It was just lucky that he wasn't human, or otherwise Clark actually would've been killed running to Lana's rescue. So, I guess I can't quite boo-hoo too much over poor Lana, and how its all Clark's fault. Heck, she almost got Lex killed in that episode as well. He just got lucky that Chloe showed up.


Clark has never yelled at Lana like that ever!

And boy, it was a long time coming. :)

[Kalista]

And boy, it was a long time coming. :)

And might I add: enjoyable!:D

[LovelyLoisLane]

And might I add: enjoyable!:D

Am I bad person for agreeing with this as well?

I enjoyed it not because I enjoy watching someone get b*tched at, but man did it feel good to have Clark stick up for himself, and rightfully so. I felt the same way back in 'Dichotic' when he finally told Chloe and Lana how fed up he was with the way they were both acting like he was their boyfriend and owed them something.

[Tottally ~ Free]

I don't think clark was out if charictor AT ALL, If I were him lana wouldn't even still be on my radar.

clark was right to FINALLY stick up for himself....actually If Im honest apart from the last words which Im not really going to even care about ..I enjoyed clana in this episode. I liked that they finally exsepted the fact that there's a slim chance there going to make it work romanticly and there gonna make sure they remain trustworthy friends

[Kalista]

Am I bad person for agreeing with this as well?

I enjoyed it not because I enjoy watching someone get b*tched at, but man did it feel good to have Clark stick up for himself, and rightfully so. I felt the same way back in 'Dichotic' when he finally told Chloe and Lana how fed up he was with the way they were both acting like he was their boyfriend and owed them something.

Nope, you are not a bad person!:D I enjoyed that scene in Dichotic as well. I love it when Clark said, "Because you thought I was jealous.":lol:

[pizzahead2490]

clark seems so pathetic in this episode. but i did like when he tell lana off. i was jus hoped that he closed his big mouth until she left the farm. disapointed again.

ps. i'm starting to get really tired of this show.

[blackcelebration]

It's not OOC it's called character progression.

Clark Kent is Clark Kent NOT SUPERMAN & depending what Superman we go by (The Byrne Clark is the person or Silver Age Superman the person) who knows which one is real. This is the magic of the character he is alien but at the same time human.

As for telling of Lana he had every right to express himself even if to some he was harsh. What should he do pretend nothing happened & just be all oh Lana you're so great!!??

Also finally Clark was actually not taking any of Lana's bushy eyed oh I'm Lana & I'm cute nonesense he simply spoke his mind & actually he was right too.

Hopefully Clark can do that more often & if Lana don't like it well :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Bye Bye Clana ;)

[Timester]

Anger is fine. Clark can get angry just like everyone else. But to me he was OOC because his anger (and even Superman's anger) is tempered with compassion and a non-judgmental attitude.

Superman, non-judgmental anger? There is a reason why he is called "Big Blue Boy Scout", he is jugdmental all the time.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Are boyscouts known for their judgmental attitude???
:confused:

[Timester]

Are boyscouts known for their judgmental attitude???
:confused:

No, but "Big Blue Boy Scout" is usually used by the villains, especially Lex. So many times Superman enters on Lex's properties (especially on the Lex Towers) just to be judgmental on Luthor. He is usually right, but he has been wrong some times (I remember the Death of Clark Kent arc, for example).

[InLove_with_Chloe]

No, but "Big Blue Boy Scout" is usually used by the villains, especially Lex. So many times Superman enters on Lex's properties (especially on the Lex Towers).....
Hmmmm, and I thought it was AlMiles' invention to have Clark wander into Lex's mansion over and over again, even when he's not welcome.
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[Dustmite]

II do not think he should bring up incidents from about two years ago, namely Lex.

I don't see why he shouldn't as these issues were never resolved. And he only brought them up as a response to Lana saying she has never loved anyone else. She threw Lex in his face more then once in the latter half of season five and the first half of season 6. Clark's point was that Lana has loved other people and has told them that, namely Whitney, Jason and Lex.


I think Lana handled that very maturely, seeing that her break up with him is what drove her to Lex.

I completely disagree. Clark broke up with Lana but how she conducted herself was her choice. She went to Lex of her own free will, she kissed him of her own free will, she moved in with him of her own free will, she told him she loved him of her own free will, she slept with him of her own free will and she agreed to his marriage proposal of her own free will.

Lana could have decided to take the time to re-evaluate what she wants from her life independant of a man but she didn't. She chose instead to start a realtionship with Lex and this a recurring theme with Lana. She is either with someone or wanting to be with someone.


And he knows how greatly she suffered in that relationship - and she did so, namely to protect him from Lionel.

She was prepared to go through with the marriage until she found out about Clark's powers and I have to point out that the majority of the relationship occured BEFORE the marriage when she wasn't being blackmailed.


The girl almost killed herself (unintentionally) in the next episode by trying to find someone (her parents) to connect with.

And maybe thats why she needs to be on her own and sort out her problems because that is not a normal reaction to a relationship break up. It is extreme.


I felt like all we saw was his anger and need to cause another hurt where he has been hurt.

And all I saw was him telling her the truth.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Clark has had to bottle up hiis emotions for a long long time and he was hurt that Lana fell head over heels over his phantom double. now when people are emotiionally hurt they usually don't act as rationally as when everything is honkey dorey, peaches and cream!


And is obvious that Lana and Clark will move on from being lovers to being really good friends which goes according to canon but they had to had their swing as well because according to canon she was very much his first love so honestly I'm fed up of the CLANA deal it was something that had to happen and it did finally after just flirting with the idea for 6 whole seasons...

[residentsmallville]

I thought it was great that Clark finally told Lana how he felt at that given time - we've never seen him show his emotions like that to Lana. He wouldn't have been as angry if he did not have strong feelings for Lana.

[Theshadow129x]

Clark needs to act out of character and develop more of a backbone. he's a complete punk to me to bow down to Lana's every will. I'd yell at her too

[83kaL]

Clark needs to act out of character and develop more of a backbone. he's a complete punk to me to bow down to Lana's every will. I'd yell at her too

Yeah, I loved the, I don't think it's me you can't face. ^_^

great acting for Tom in this episode too, more and more every episode since seventh season ^_^

[smallvillerocks45]

I think that Clark was a bit harsh, but not because he was written out of character. The thing is, we never see Clark angry unless he's under the influence of something. Clark normally bites his tongue and acts depressed...this time, he had to get stuff off of his chest, and he did. That being said, talking to Lois helped him put things into perspective. As far as I can tell, Clark was written very well in this episode, IMO.

[kryptonaidxh]

Clana needs to die now

yes I agree
I really pissed off the way Clark keeps trusting her and apologizing her after all s´he has done, even when she left he still begged her! I can´t believe the lack of dignity from him!
he shoul have been the one who kicked her out of the farm and sayin: I´T´S OVER LANA! GET OUT OF MY FARM! :rolleyes:that would be his final right words to her.

[msleggie]

posted by: Clana4Life:Forget Clana. Can the real Clark please come back? 'Cause I'm not lovin' this one.


I agree, Clark was a little off, that's why I was expecting him to just let Lana walk out the door, then of course he chooses that moment to act like his old self.