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Dustmite
02-07-2008, 08:37 AM
.....and then fell for that killer."

"You're only honest with me when you're threatened."

I loved that scene and I loved it even more that he walked away without apologizing to her.

Kalista
02-07-2008, 08:39 AM
Ah man, I can't wait to see this!

aqgalaxy
02-07-2008, 10:29 AM
But then with that final scene completely ruined the episode IMO

6-Super-Man -5
02-07-2008, 11:47 AM
I agree the ending ruins it.

tariksam
02-07-2008, 11:53 AM
And for a moment we celebrate the return of Clark's balls....sadly they decided to return to Lana's drawer

Kara_Zor-El
02-07-2008, 12:08 PM
DO they? Because I hear the last scene isn't so bad, especially with this scene added in there. The last scene is a representation of their desperation. They'll do anything at this point to try to keep going but they both know it's not what they want. Well, at least Clark does. He gave no answer to Lana when she said that he wasn't sur ethat he wanted her the rest of his life. So maybe he stopped her from moving out? I think that he's just trying ot save their friendship right now and is acting in one last attempt to get back to where they were. But he has doubts now and those doubts will only get worse.

Dustmite
02-07-2008, 12:25 PM
I don't think the last scene ruined anything at all. Loving Lana is a habit for Clark now but in this episode he told her some home truths without apologizing and she didn't have anything to say to them because he was right.

She always pulls out the "only person I've ever really loved" card when she's had 3 other serious relationships and I'm glad he called her out on it. It needed to be said. Even the last scene has Clark recognizing that he doesn't know what the future holds with regards to who he is going to end up with.

chlark=destiny
02-07-2008, 12:43 PM
And for a moment we celebrate the return of Clark's balls....sadly they decided to return to Lana's drawer

SO FREAKIN TRUE:rotfl::rotfl:

Yeah, she has them in a pretty pink jar under her bed LOL

jazel
02-07-2008, 12:45 PM
[QUOTE=Kara_Zor-El;3580095]DO they? Because I hear the last scene isn't so bad, especially with this scene added in there.[QUOTE]

Understand, there was no kiss or hug.:lol:
So they can go back to more awkwardness ?:p
Didn't Lana say in that Isis scene, that the Phantom
was more attentive, and affectionate toward her ? Something
CK hasn't obviously been, since her return. Pretty safe bet,
they are NOT, nor will they be sleeping in the same bed, any time soon.:lol:

TheANIMAL (marcus)
02-07-2008, 01:50 PM
My understanding is that they might be sleeping in separate beds now, and with only two beds in the house, and with Kara returning....

ClarksGal
02-07-2008, 03:10 PM
I thought the scenes were great. Clearly, Clana is in deep trouble. They are trying to make it work, though. They are giving it that real shot. How on earth could I possibly believe that Clark would ever get over Lana if they didn't go through this long, slow breakup like this? He's loved her his entire life. He's been incredibly disappointed with her lately, and he expressed that for the first time in his life today. And it does appear that she listened to him, and made a choice to stop her crap and try to be a better person. That just gives me superman vibes...Superman is supposed to inspire people to be better than they are.

I think the way they have been playing this out has been very interesting, albeit long overdue.

Spaniard
02-07-2008, 03:26 PM
Why you have to go through a slow breakup to get over someone? Maybe I'm weird, but I went through a "fast breakup" with my first love and I'm over her.

They look unhappy, even miserable sometimes, that's just unhealthy. To me, what is unbelievable is that they are prolonging this agony when is obvious that it's not working.

Dustmite
02-07-2008, 03:32 PM
Why you have to go through a slow breakup to get over someone? Maybe I'm weird, but I went through a "fast breakup" with my first love and I'm over her.

:lol: Yeah, but you're probably normal and don't have AlMiles dictating your life.

I can understand it taking time to get over someone but when something is blatantly not working, I think it's futile to try and ignore the cracks and forge ahead anyway.


They look unhappy, even miserable sometimes, that's just unhealthy.

They do and it is.

Timester
02-07-2008, 03:39 PM
Why you have to go through a slow breakup to get over someone? Maybe I'm weird, but I went through a "fast breakup" with my first love and I'm over her.

They look unhappy, even miserable sometimes, that's just unhealthy. To me, what is unbelievable is that they are prolonging this agony when is obvious that it's not working.

It would be for Clark and Lana. Clark is obsessed and Lana is needy. They are both weak.

Kal-ed
02-07-2008, 05:15 PM
I think that that scene was planed out to be one of the last scenes in this season, so they needed to wrap up the Lana, if the strike ends this week, weŽll probably have a Clana jumpstarting again, its like last season there was no Clana untll season 7 was confirmed then AlMiles decided to play with their favorite toy once again.

jazel
02-07-2008, 05:20 PM
Why you have to go through a slow breakup to get over someone? Maybe I'm weird, but I went through a "fast breakup" with my first love and I'm over her.


:lol:, that makes so much sense, which is why it's probably way beyond TPTB's comprehension.

Mary Sullivan
02-07-2008, 05:30 PM
Finally someone said this to perfect Lana, and coming from Clark? Even better. Clana is so over.

kentfamily
02-07-2008, 08:14 PM
I dont think any of you people watched the show. In the end, they did say their goodbyes. I dont think there will be a Clana. They lost their trust in each other and they want to find it back, find their way back, as friends. Thats what I understood. The arguement between Clark and Lana at the foundation was really informative. They finally let one another know how they really feel, thats in any relationship when its in trouble.
Why is there always a Lana bashing and always Clark is the good guy. Thats just exactly what Lana has been saying all along, she cannot compete with his high standards of her. Thats why is was easy/easier with Bizarro meaning there were no problems. In any relationship, NO ONE wants someone who's always critizing, bit#h*ing about everything one does, sort of when women nag, and nag their men. Thats what Clark is doing to Lana. Nag, nag, nag.

Eri-El
02-07-2008, 08:29 PM
I think Clark's wounds are too deep from what she did and said to him for them to get past this.

sabi908
02-07-2008, 08:32 PM
And for a moment we celebrate the return of Clark's balls....sadly they decided to return to Lana's drawer
hahah!

TWLOVER03
02-07-2008, 08:33 PM
And for a moment we celebrate the return of Clark's balls....sadly they decided to return to Lana's drawer

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: WORD!

paolinki25
02-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Same here. I was so proud of Clark for getting his balls back, but just like that, he is castrated once again. A shame, really.

smallvillelogan
02-08-2008, 03:30 PM
.....and then fell for that killer."

"You're only honest with me when you're threatened."

I loved that scene and I loved it even more that he walked away without apologizing to her.

Yeah, it was a great scene. Maybe with the final scene they regressed a little bit, but it's not like there was a big kiss or even the feeling that they were completely fine again. There was still plenty of tension in the relationship at the end. For me, I thought the Isis scene was moving Clana away, and then with the ending scene, it returned like halfway back from where the Isis scene took it.

Krypton935
02-08-2008, 04:42 PM
That was so sweet!! I was like you tell her clark!!!!

Clana4Life
02-08-2008, 04:47 PM
I didn't think ex-boyfriends had the right to dictate who you can and can't see after they demolish your heart. He was Clark's ex-best friend. So, all bets were off. It wasn't like Lana was dating Clark's brother and she wasn't dating Pete, his other best friend. I'll be darned if I'd let Clark make me feel bad about falling for Lex or for a Phantom that I thought was him.

Dustmite
02-08-2008, 04:50 PM
I didn't think ex-boyfriends had the right to dictate who you can and can't see after they demolish your heart. He was Clark's ex-best friend. So, all bets were off. It wasn't like Lana was dating Clark's brother and she wasn't dating Pete, his other best friend. I'll be darned if I'd let Clark make me feel bad about falling for Lex or for a Phantom that I thought was him.

The point Clark was making was that she had fallen for other people contrary to what she keeps throwing in his face about him being the only one she's loved. It is Clark NOT Lana who has remained pretty much single throughout the series.

Alexander III
02-09-2008, 06:10 AM
Clark's a heartbreaker

jimmyolsenblues
02-09-2008, 06:11 AM
.....and then fell for that killer."

"You're only honest with me when you're threatened."

I loved that scene and I loved it even more that he walked away without apologizing to her.

too bad clark folded like a two dollar bill at the end.

do3mire
02-09-2008, 06:21 AM
too bad clark folded like a two dollar bill at the end.

That's why we love our Clark.

kentfamily
02-09-2008, 08:57 PM
originated by: Dustmite
The point Clark was making was that she had fallen for other people contrary to what she keeps throwing in his face about him being the only one she's loved. It is Clark NOT Lana who has remained pretty much single throughout the series.

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Eventhough he stayed pretty much single, he did have his little almost one-nighters (he would've if there were no interruotions), whenever he was infected or something or other. He was practically having sex with Lois then there was Alicia and then there was that slut in Hypnotic. If you see it from Lana's point of view, Clark was never truthful with her, he would disappear without an explanation. Then he pulls away and tells her he DOES NOT love her. I dont think any woman would stay with a guy after that and she would move on with her life, and sometimes, either party would meet someone else faster than the other. When you see it from a girl's point of view, Clark was always back and forth with Lana, I want you one minute then the next lets break up minute. No one would be happy with a guy who is soooo undecisive, confusing and finally give up and move on eventhough still being in love with him. Chloe never had that problem because she and Clark tried once and decided to be friends. The relationship between Clark and Lana went deeper. I agree with what CLANA4LIFE said.;)

msleggie
02-09-2008, 11:20 PM
Posted by: Eri-El: I think Clark's wounds are too deep from what she did and said to him for them to get past this.

I think so too, after what he said to Lana in the ISiS Foundation, you can tell that those were things that were on his mind 4 a long time, and by the way he said them too, it was almost like disgust was in his voice, and he did have the whole disapproving glare going on.....then at the end of the episode he ruined it by basically trying to get her to stay

smallvillecrazygurl04
02-10-2008, 01:18 AM
Finally someone said this to perfect Lana, and coming from Clark? Even better. Clana is so over.

I agree, Clark actually proved himself in this episode... Therefore, Clana is so done with.

Dustmite
02-10-2008, 05:51 AM
originated by: Dustmite
The point Clark was making was that she had fallen for other people contrary to what she keeps throwing in his face about him being the only one she's loved. It is Clark NOT Lana who has remained pretty much single throughout the series.

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I dont think any woman would stay with a guy after that and she would move on with her life, and sometimes, either party would meet someone else faster than the other.


Lana was with Whitney and flirted with Clark, with Jason and flirted with Clark, with Clark and hung around Lex keeping secrets from Clark, with Lex and still wanted to know Clark's secret. The point I'm making is that she said she loved each man when she was with him so her word is pretty much worthless to me. She falls for every man that promises her the world.


No one would be happy with a guy who is soooo undecisive, confusing and finally give up and move on eventhough still being in love with him.

Lana is pretty confusing herself and if Clark is that bad then why the back and forth. Leave him and be done with.


Chloe never had that problem because she and Clark tried once and decided to be friends. The relationship between Clark and Lana went deeper. I agree with what CLANA4LIFE said.

I never mentioned Chloe in my post :)

Smallvillebabe08
02-10-2008, 06:58 AM
.....and then fell for that killer."

"You're only honest with me when you're threatened."

I loved that scene and I loved it even more that he walked away without apologizing to her.

I absolutely ADORED that line!!! I thought it was soo over between them! But when Lana was packing her bags for Chloe I was like "YES!!!" Then Clark apologized..UGH! it ruined it! :mad:

RepairmanBob
02-10-2008, 07:58 AM
Eventhough he stayed pretty much single, he did have his little almost one-nighters (he would've if there were no interruotions), whenever he was infected or something or other. He was practically having sex with Lois then there was Alicia and then there was that slut in Hypnotic.
So Clark's three RedK mind whammies (two of which he was given the equivalent of a date rape drug by the other party) are the same as Lana jumping to (and on) Lex the instant they break up? Or not knowing she was sharing a bed with a gut ripping, heat visioning sociopath?
If you see it from Lana's point of view, Clark was never truthful with her, he would disappear without an explanation. Then he pulls away and tells her he DOES NOT love her. I dont think any woman would stay with a guy after that and she would move on with her life, and sometimes, either party would meet someone else faster than the other.Lana had already set up Lex as her back-up boyfriend while still dating Clark. Two episodes after the "final" break-up, she was hooked up with Lex, and was soon throwing it in Clark's face. IMO, Clark is justified to have some negative feelings about Lexana. At the very least, he may have some biotterness about Lana's treating him so poorly each and every time she has a new man on her arm.
When you see it from a girl's point of view, Clark was always back and forth with Lana, I want you one minute then the next lets break up minute. No one would be happy with a guy who is soooo undecisive, confusing and finally give up and move on eventhough still being in love with him. Which I could see... if Lana did not decide she was still in love with Clark in Hydro. She moves on, until she moves back. Now, Clark is not blameless in this either - I think Clark's brain turns off when he is around Lana. But after seven years, the dance has gotten old. This is more of a meta issue with the writing - either give the character a real chance, or end it and make them friends. Sadly, AlMiles love them some angst.
Chloe never had that problem because she and Clark tried once and decided to be friends. The relationship between Clark and Lana went deeper. I could not disagree more.

Chloe has always supported Clark, no matter the cost to herself or her own happiness. She has given him unconditional love, guidance, and when necessary a kick in the ass. When Chloe learned Clark was not human in Pariah, she immediately started covering for him. Chloe actively protected him in Blank and Commencement. Chloe respected Clark's desire to hold onto his secrets, after he made it clear how important they were to him.

Lana either gives Clark a hard time (when she is with another guy), stalks him (season six) or demands his every secret. All of which is kind of funny, considering what she has been up to this season. She wants a Clark who is completely devoted to ehr and only her. She wants Bizarro, and she gets pissed when someone (like Chloe) tries to point out that is not who Clark is.

Different is not the same as deeper, IMO. Clark thinks he is in love with Lana (going into how unhealthy Clana is at this point is an entirely different post)... but when he needs support, guidance, advice or assistance, who does he go to? Not the girl with the shiny black hair.
I didn't think ex-boyfriends had the right to dictate who you can and can't see after they demolish your heart. He was Clark's ex-best friend. So, all bets were off. It wasn't like Lana was dating Clark's brother and she wasn't dating Pete, his other best friend. I'll be darned if I'd let Clark make me feel bad about falling for Lex or for a Phantom that I thought was him. 1) Dating your worst enemy, a Bad Guy who is doing Bad Things, is IMO worth getting angry about. Now, did Clark have a right to demand Lana not date Lex? No. But he did warn her, and she immediately threw back the old "At least I can TRUST him" line she uses so well. If my ex has so little regard for my judgment that she quickly jumps into the arms of a Bad Guy, then yes, I would hold it against her. Especially when she decides she wants to get back whith me while carryng the Bad Guy's child a few months later.
2) Until now, Clark has never pointed out the he was right. Lana dating Lex was a bad thing. Clark warned her, Lana ignored him, and look what happened. More reason for Clark to be angry.
3) We will have to agree to disagree about Bizarro. I still think Lana should have noticed the personality changes and been concerned. People do not change, to quote Dr. House - at least not that much, that fast.

Spaniard
02-10-2008, 08:22 AM
^ Excellent post

darkone
02-10-2008, 01:10 PM
but when he needs support, guidance, advice or assistance, who does he go to? Not the girl with the shiny black hair.

Well I've seen Clark going to Lana for help in Siren AFTER he dissed her in Wrath.That's hypocritical IMO.


The point I'm making is that she said she loved each man when she was with him so her word is pretty much worthless to me.

It isnt worthless since Clark dumped her in S3 and he dumped her again in S5 and Lana still came back to him.That alone proves her love for him.I can understand Clark being frustrated but it's not like that he hasnt any fault in this.

83kaL
02-10-2008, 01:40 PM
I think :

"I don't think it's me you can't face."

Was better ^_^ But the whole was really something. Clark isn't Lana's b**ch anymore :D

All about Clark
02-12-2008, 11:12 AM
In any relationship, NO ONE wants someone who's always critizing, bit#h*ing about everything one does, sort of when women nag, and nag their men. Thats what Clark is doing to Lana. Nag, nag, nag.

Are we watching the same show? Because Clark holds everything in and takes blame on himself, maybe you could give examples of this so called nagging.

He told Lana his was upset about her taking revenge on Lex in Wrath. And now when he returned to destroy Bizarro. Clark was right. It's Lana who can't face Lana and her own actions, because Clark hasn't said much. She knows what he wants, he doesn't have to remind her.

xrayvision
02-12-2008, 06:16 PM
Are we watching the same show? Because Clark holds everything in and takes blame on himself, maybe you could give examples of this so called nagging.

He told Lana his was upset about her taking revenge on Lex in Wrath. And now when he returned to destroy Bizarro. Clark was right. It's Lana who can't face Lana and her own actions, because Clark hasn't said much. She knows what he wants, he doesn't have to remind her.

Yup, Clark is the most self-flogging character on TV. For once I want to see him stand up and point the finger at Lana and make her take responsibility for her actions without apologizing for it later. She always had Lex or Lex's money to clean up after her. Lex's money benefitted Clark too one time, but Clark didn't let that cloud his judgment of Lex to make him become jaded. Lana was just grateful that Lex covered up for her killing Genevieve, for her getting involved with Adam Knight, and so many more things over the years. And now Lana wants Clark to forget that she slept with 2 of his enemies. Meanwhile she still has Lex's tainted money that she stole and is still not getting the mental help she desperately needs.

I think her situation is very similar to Lex's---until she doesn't get rid of Lex's tainted money and Isis (which she spent the money on), she won't be able to better herself. She has to get rid of it and get mental help and then build a life for herself. The same held true with Lex. His only chance was to break away from Luthorcorp as Lexmas proved. He didn't and it cost him all his friends and set him on an evil path that he can no longer turn back from. I think Lana will do what Lex couldn't and give up her current lifestyle (at least I hope she does since I don't see this Lana being a lifelong friend to Clark unless that happens).

pizzaguy19
05-05-2008, 10:51 AM
I think Clark's wounds are too deep from what she did and said to him for them to get past this.

I pray to god you're right. Your girlfriend sleeps with another man (not even a man) for a month straight, doesn't realize the difference, then tells you to your face she enjoyed that month more than anything.

What a *****, seriously!!! I would NOT stand for that, no matter HOW MUCH I was attached to her.