Green Arrow & Black Canary in their own series? [Archive]

cksidekick

02-06-2008, 03:01 PM

"Justin Hartley is definitely leading-man material though, in my opinion, and I hope Alaina Huffman will be good."

i agree with you here...but i would rather see a strait up Justice League...i don't care if GA and BC are the main focus with a lot of guest Hero apearances though...it would be a fine answer to FOTW...you could just have The Memberer Of The Week...with a few regulars of course...

i understand what you are getting at...Justin can carry a show...and the relationship with BC is new to television...i'm hoping we get more than one Smallville epi with the two of them...add Kara and Bart to the regular cast, and we gots ourselves a show!!

KSiteTV

02-06-2008, 03:15 PM

cksidekick, your "add Kara and Bart to the regular cast" comment is very interesting... I, too, would love to see how things would work with a Green Arrow/Supergirl team-up, kind of like the animated series do. Those two in a show is also something I'd like.

It's a really shame the Justice League series never happened. Steve DeKnight had some cool plans for Bart.

cksidekick

02-06-2008, 04:07 PM

yeah, i don't realy see a Justice League show working with all the Big Guns showing up every week...but to have the less powerfull members, be the main focus, would alow for more "down to earth" story telling...shure they could throw in the ocasional epi with Supes or Green Lantern, but with Kara as the only "Heavy Hitter" week in and week out, i think it would be a lot easier on the writing team....and it would make those "guest apearances" by the Super Three the highlights of each season....much like having the team show up on Smallville...

edit:

Bart is my favorite addition to Smallville yet...and not because he was first! he is allmost the Super Brother Clark never had...after Ryan, i had hoped Smallville would play on it more...

lastwords

02-06-2008, 04:23 PM

I think it would be awsome having a justice league show...you would get to see alot more great characters that appear on smallville from time to time...
Yummy.

superhippie2000

02-06-2008, 05:59 PM

I think there should just be a justice league show that way we can get everyone. if this series ends with clark in the fortress for so many years then the justice league can take place while clark is away.

krpto

02-06-2008, 06:11 PM

I want a JL series I can only hope that the Cw will Get desprate for a good show about superheroes after smallville ends and make a JL show That could survive without superman on just convince Tom to do guess spots as clark with refferences to superman if he won't wear the costume and Show kara as supergirl.

Randy G.

02-06-2008, 06:14 PM

Justice League all the way! That way we could get the best of both.
No one said that every JL episode would have to have all of the characters. They could focus an episode on a few characters (mix it up) helping each other out. Next week, an adventure with a few other characters. Occasionally, we would get to see a full cast episode.

I think this would keep the show fresh & exciting, and could really work in it's favor.
I know I'd be glued to the tv every week. Lol! http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/963/popcorn3hg.gif

superhippie2000

02-06-2008, 06:20 PM

one thing that would probably cause problems is that people will compare it too close to heroes. but i think it would be cool if it was like heroes and lost. where you have a plotline but you have like a backstory on a certian member. but still we probably couldnt get batman or wonderwoman.

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would be cool if chloe went to work for the league. she did good in the justice episode so i think she could be like the computer expert home base helper in the sky satalite secret hideout thing. another thing is we get to see different character villians and they dont need to be based on one character and dont even have to have the villians hero in that episode. like green arrow and the joker or the flash and lex luthor.

cksidekick

02-06-2008, 06:29 PM

when batman shows up at mid season, he needs all the regulars to help him take out Clay Face....or maybe even who? Joker...

you bring on the best Vilans along with the the heros...a DC spectacular...unashamed advertisement of the DC universe!...no more FOTW it would be HaVoTW Hero and Vilan of The Week...

shy175223

02-06-2008, 06:35 PM

AS much as it is cool to have Batman in SV I doubt that they would have him on the JL show if this show ever came into frusion....:\

oldblackmagick

02-06-2008, 07:55 PM

it's fruition but i got what ya meant ;)

shy175223

02-07-2008, 06:52 AM

oh yeah thanks...I was never really good at spelling or grammar in highschool..:D

cksidekick

02-07-2008, 12:10 PM

AS much as it is cool to have Batman in SV I doubt that they would have him on the JL show if this show ever came into frusion....:\

yeah, i know.....:mad:.....but it shure is a lot of fun to think about it...;)

dunkman

02-07-2008, 12:47 PM

superhippie2000

02-07-2008, 02:07 PM

I think manhunter should play a big role since he is the oldest and most experienced with his powers. im still hoping at some point in smallville there is a manhunter green arrow connection cause i still believe manhunter had something to do with helping oliver with the satalitte stuff.

WickedJenn

02-07-2008, 02:43 PM

As cool as a Green Arrow/Black Canary series would be, I'd have to say I'd like a Justice League series even more. But K-Site is definitely right, Justin Hartley is a great leading man.

ClarkyBoy14

02-07-2008, 04:12 PM

A GA/BC series sounds like it could be good, and I love the idea of having Kara and Bart as well (and they could try to bring Jimmy over as Kara's LI and have Chloe make guest appearances as Watchtower or something).

Hey, CW, are ya listenin'?

LexLuv180

02-07-2008, 08:31 PM

I'd rather see a Justice League show, but yep, I would watch a Green Arrow spinoff as well. Not a Supergirl one though

Superboy2

02-07-2008, 11:04 PM

What were Steve DeKnight's plans for Bart in the JL series if it were to have happened?

niki

02-07-2008, 11:05 PM

Ahh, a Justice League series would be freaking awesome ... action upon action after week, I can just see it now.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-07-2008, 11:06 PM

I think it's gonna be very, very difficult to pull off either of these spin-offs. I mean, let's face it: even with future Superman in the boat such a show hardly gets 4 Millions viewers every week.

borednow

02-08-2008, 12:42 AM

I think we are all assuming that these spin offs wouldn't have Lana obsessions and backward development.

RCucs

02-08-2008, 05:51 AM

I think a Batman show would be best. A Justice League show would work, but I am not sure a Green Arrow show would last long. A Batman show would open up so many possibilities. I would love to see a weekly Joker character, not to mention all of the other cool Batman villains.

ClarkyBoy14

02-08-2008, 06:28 AM

After seeing "Siren" tonight, I would definately love to see what happens next w/ Ollie and Dinah.

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I think it's gonna be very, very difficult to pull off either of these spin-offs. I mean, let's face it: even with future Superman in the boat such a show hardly gets 4 Millions viewers every week.

That's a good concern. But I think if the pilot features some of SV's regulars and the conditions (promotion, lead-in, competion, timeslot) are good, the premiere could pull in 5 to 5.5 million viewers and if the show is good, it could settle into 4-4.5 million viewers.

smallvillelogan

02-08-2008, 02:29 PM

I would much rather have them in an entire Justice League show. Or between just a GA/BC show and a Supergirl show, I would take the blond chick.

KSiteTV

02-08-2008, 02:30 PM

Then again, most everything else on the network gets under 3 million viewers a week.

Smallville also floats closer to 5 million as the seasons begin... then after repeats they drift away... the strike can't be helping either. Even so, SV is still scoring better than say, Gossip Girl.

BabyAngel

02-08-2008, 03:11 PM

falcon64z8

02-08-2008, 03:17 PM

JL series would be awesome! Why can't they make it already...

ClarkyBoy14

02-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Even so, SV is still scoring better than say, Gossip Girl.

True.

Also, the CW won't have WWE next season, so there's two more hours they'll have to fill w/ a hindered development season and about 5 shows that need to be cancelled.

So I wonder what the chances are of CW making a blind 13 or so episode commitment to a BC/GA series, maybe considering "Siren" as the pilot.

KSiteTV

02-08-2008, 05:44 PM

The CW might not have much time to prepare pilots, so greenlighting (pun intended) a GA show would be perfect right about now.

ClarkyBoy14

02-08-2008, 05:57 PM

The CW might not have much time to prepare pilots, so greenlighting (pun intended) a GA show would be perfect right about now.

:lol:

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I'm trying to be objective, but I don't see any reason not to.

1. Justin Hartley has said numerous times he'd be up for a GA series.

2. Every new series has underperformed. Why not try this?

3. SV has one season left, they need something to replace it w/, or ANTM will be the only show that can get over 4 mill.

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4. It couldn't possibly cost more than SV, could it?

5. Throw in BC and maybe Kara and you've got the girl power that Dawn O. craves.

last man of krypton

02-09-2008, 06:43 AM

I wouldn't mind a GA series, but I'm not sure about BC; I wouldn't want in right from the start, or the same actress portraying her. Neither wouldn't I want the same produces <quick glare at Al/Miles>.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-09-2008, 08:20 AM

Krypton935

02-09-2008, 09:29 AM

I think that would be awesome! i would definitly watch a BC/GA show!

Blue screen of death

02-09-2008, 01:50 PM

the selfish person in me wants smallville to continue and eventually evolve into superman/jla stories with the heros we have already seen, some new ones and more of a selection of supervillains. The realistic person in me just wants a good live action superhero show with good stories from cannon and new endeavors as well. I would be happy to watch any of those shows so long as they we good.

KSiteTV

02-09-2008, 06:56 PM

I just posted a column on the main part of the site, I'd be curious what people think...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/greenarrowspinoff.htm

cksidekick

02-09-2008, 07:04 PM

:D

are you folks at CW listening?

go get um, Craig!

;)

xrayvision

02-09-2008, 07:05 PM

I just posted a column on the main part of the site, I'd be curious what people think...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/greenarrowspinoff.htm

Yeah, but if Al/Miles do it, I think it would turn out to be pretty bad. They would probably try to find a way to fit Lana in it or make some Lana-esque character be in it and add the angst factor.

I wouldn't want Green Arrow by himself. I want him to be with the Justice League. I have a great idea for a show that the CW could use after seeing something, but the chances of that happening are 0.

KSiteTV

02-09-2008, 07:09 PM

I don't think it'd be Green Arrow by himself - there's the Black Canary, and even Lois to consider putting in there.

I'm sure it'd be more like "Justice" than the romantic angst that Smallville sometimes has.

Jory

02-09-2008, 07:15 PM

I think a Green Arrow/Justice League type series would be great.

I don't see Michael Rosenbaum guest starring, simply because I don't think he'd want to shave his head for only 5-6 episodes. I think once MR is done with Smallville, he's done playing Lex on TV. If they were to do this series, say next year,I could see Allison (possibly) joining that series,if they write off Chloe;which seems to be the case. Chloe on a Green Arrow/Justice League series would be different than the Chloe on Smallville--we might actually get to see her power evolve instaed of it happening offscreen. I think having Black Canary on the show would be great,I really enjoyed her character, not to mention Cyborg, Aquaman, and Impulse. I think Justin has really improved his acting from his "Passions" days, wasn't really impressed with him there, but I like him as GA.

I think the series would have a lot of diverse characters that a lot of different people would like between, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Cyborg, Aquaman, Impulse, and possibly Chloe, I think there's a character for everyone to like. They'd just have to find some good villians, and everything would be set,imo.

I don't see Lois on the show, because Erica's contracted for season 8 (assuming a GA series happens next season). As I don't see Lex or Lionel either due to MR(probably) not wanting to shave his head for a guest stint, and Lionel (possibly) being killed by Lex. I don't think TW or KK would want to reprise their roles, plus they are probably contracted for season 8. I could see Allison being lured to a GA show, because (as I said earlier) I think Chloe'd be written differently than on Smallville (they could develop her power better, she wouldn't be pining for Clark, she could be back to kicking butt) and I think TPTB are writing her off the show THIS season, so she'd be free to do it, and she has played the "Watchtower" role already. It'd be fun to see her and Bart interact more frequently too.

KSiteTV

02-09-2008, 07:16 PM

ClarkyBoy14

02-09-2008, 07:16 PM

I just posted a column on the main part of the site, I'd be curious what people think...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/greenarrowspinoff.htm

Just finished reading it. I agree w/ all 14 points, and I hope that that is somehow read by the CW execs (restraining from saying Dopestroff ;) ).

Just out of curiosity, would it be possible for K-Site to start some sort of fan campaign to get a GA series?

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Oh, and as a possible villian candidate, how about Intergang (maybe make Intergang to Green Arrow what Wolfram & Hart was to [Angel[/i])? That way, you can have the presence of Lex w/o MR.

Or they could create an original villian...

KSiteTV

02-09-2008, 07:31 PM

I'm sure there are Green Arrow related characters who could come into play - like Shado, or Eddie Fyers.

And coolest of all would be a "Green Arrow and Green Lantern on the road" story arc.

Jory

02-09-2008, 07:38 PM

I thought Justin's performance in "Siren" was one of his best, too - he really seems to have become comfortable with the character.

I'd like to see Erica in a GA series at some point too, just because she and Justin seem to have really good chemistry.

I wouldn't mind seeing Erica appear on a GA show, but if it's to be apart of a love triangle--no thanks. I'm so tired of love triangles lol. If it's to team up with Chloe that'd be cool (I think Smallville has wasted an opportunity in not doing this), unless TPTB kill Chloe off this season--which would be anti-climatic, imo.

If they are going to take a Smallville character to put on a (potential) GA show, I could see it being Chloe. Especially if she's being written off the show (more than likely what's happening,imo) to join the League (again, unless they kill her). I think Allison would do it, with the assurance that Chloe would be written differently.

She's the only character I could see on the show, unless Erica guest stars after Smallville ends. If they do have her guest star for a few episodes,please no love triangles.

HowardFilms

02-09-2008, 07:40 PM

I'm sure there are Green Arrow related characters who could come into play - like Shado, or Eddie Fyers.

And coolest of all would be a "Green Arrow and Green Lantern on the road" story arc.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

cksidekick

02-09-2008, 08:01 PM

comming soon.net, Variety, and The Hollywood Reporter are all reporting that WB alowed options to lapse on the Justice League movie...they cannot get back into production before June...

This show would be an alternative on a silver platter...especialy with the future DVD sales...

a Super Hero culture is here...it is not emerging...WB would be well advised to to keep the small screen as full of Super Heros as the big ones...

Jory

02-09-2008, 08:03 PM

comming soon.net, Variety, and The Hollywood Reporter are all repoting that WB alowed options to lapse on the Justice League movie...they cannot get back into production before June...

This show would be an alternative on a sliver platter...

This is the CW we're talking about, not exactly the brightest bulbs imo. Didn't SDK refer to the network as the Coulda Woulda network? lol.

ClarkyBoy14

02-09-2008, 08:08 PM

And coolest of all would be a "Green Arrow and Green Lantern on the road" story arc.

I love that idea.

I'm getting excited over a show that hasn't even been created. :p

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This is the CW we're talking about, not exactly the brightest bulbs imo. Didn't SDK refer to the network as the Coulda Woulda network? lol.

:lol:

Last night/this morning there were rumours that the CW was getting a new president, which could have brought about some good changes, but I think it's now been proven false. :\

KalEl016

02-09-2008, 09:00 PM

I think that a Justice series with Ollie as the lead character would be sick. They could have the rest of the Smallville Justice League characters as well as Supergirl n Martian Manhunter and even introduce some heroes, like Plastic Man, Hawk Man, and the Green Lanterns. I think having Lois on the show would be cool too n Tom Welling should definitely guest star when Smallville is over, but as Superman.

The Great Ymmij

02-09-2008, 09:09 PM

I don't think Lois should be in the Green Arrow spinoff, if there was one. They had a good breakup scene in "Siren", and Lois needs to forget about Green Arrow now. I mean, they already broke up twice. If they bring her in for another love story b/w them, we're gonna see a THIRD breakup. No thanks!

But I would definitely support a Green Arrow spinoff......or a Supergirl spinoff.

ClarkyBoy14

02-09-2008, 09:19 PM

A second season of Life is Wild, to see if they can top their record-breaking lows? More CW Now? Crowned II?

Might as well add Girlfriends (which is averaging 2.21 million viewers for new eps.), Aliens in America (1.99), and Online Nation (0.74).

That'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

SueB

02-09-2008, 09:41 PM

I think Green Arrow would work. I think JL will conflict with the big screen and get kabashed.

In my mind, it was the success of Justice that fueled the big screen dreams of WB (that plus the Fantastic Four get good box office).

BUT Green Arrow is not actually essential to the Justice League script (the draft that's floating around). So you could argue for a series on that.

THEN, if the JL movie doesn't come to fruition, you expand the TV show to Justice League. IF the movie does well, stick with Green Arrow and Black Canary.

The sets, the mood, the fanbase is waiting.

Supergirl just doesn't have the buzz. And I like LV, but I don't think she could carry a series and JH could.

BTW, you know if Flash Gordon could hang on for a season, Green Arrow could make at least two and DVD sales would be worth it.

Spirit Detective

02-09-2008, 10:07 PM

Craig, find some way to contact the CW with your 15 reasons.

The fact that the CW lost Smackdown and may have no new pilots ready for the Fall Season make a Green Arrow spinoff highly attractive. It also helps that the characters have already been established and many of the sets and costumes are already created.

I'm convinced now that the CW needs a Green Arrow spinoff.

"Admit it, Cyborg and Impulse are cooler than Maya and Alejandro ANY day."

I totally agree with you on that.

triplet

02-09-2008, 11:16 PM

The CW might not have much time to prepare pilots, so greenlighting (pun intended) a GA show would be perfect right about now.

:D

I agree. I love Justin and Alaina was awesome as Black Canary.

I'd give it a thumbs up!

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I really liked your column on this, btw.

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pookie83

02-10-2008, 01:57 AM

oh i couldn't agree with you any farther. The cw needs!!!!!!!!!!!!! the green arrow badly. I will always be a superman fan truly to the end and there is nothing better than him. But lets face it smallville won't last forever and I think the green arrow not only is great in smallville but is has earned the respect to take over after the journey is finished.

MidgardDragon

02-10-2008, 02:23 AM

Green Arrow/Black Canary would rock, and Justice League would rock more. Although a Supergirl show with GA/BC and the JL as guest stars or even regular members of the cast woudl rock even more.

tariksam

02-10-2008, 02:55 AM

MidgardDragon

02-10-2008, 02:58 AM

Between Chloe and Lois, obvioulsy who has more posibilities of joining a GA show would be Chloe, it makes more sense, since they are already building a GA/Chloe partnership offscreen and on Siren.

I could see ED making a one time guest appearence but that's it. Unless ED is too busy:D

I doubt she'd be a regular (Chloe is definitely more likely) BUT I'm sure ED would gladly do occasional guest spots instead of just a one-time.

Vergon6

02-10-2008, 04:38 AM

I doubt she'd be a regular (Chloe is definitely more likely) BUT I'm sure ED would gladly do occasional guest spots instead of just a one-time.
As logical as it would be to have Chloe as the more likely regular, Allison Mack seems to want to move on and do other characters.

I don't think it's all that feasible to have a full-fledged Justice League show. Craig's idea of GA/BC show might work better logistically. Also, as someone seemed to be hinting at before, this would be sort of the Angel to Smallville.

Whether or not they called it Green Arrow, they should try to keep it to a tighter core group, to keep a reins of the budget. As suggested, Green Arrow, and Black Canary, but also Martian Manhunter and Impulse. And they could have the others appear in short arcs or stand alone episodes.

It might also be interesting to bring back the Angel of Vengeance. I know some people issues with her but I felt she had potential. Denise Quiñones also appeared in the Aquaman pilot, so that might be interesting tie-in. The Angel of Vengeance's abilities would not require that much elaborate effects either. Since her character is apparently very different than Andrea Rojas in the comics (Acrata), there is a lot of different things they could to do with her. Not to mention that the reuse the Daily Planet sets but redress them to be the Star City Post, as she could play the reporter on the show. This would not require Lois to be transplanted from the Daily Planet. However, they could bring Lois and Jimmy if they chase a story down to Star City in crossover episodes.

ClarkyBoy14

02-10-2008, 06:01 AM

Craig, just wondering, what did you mean by

Supernatural fans, don't worry - I'm not forgetting you! Read on...

?

I didn't see anything else about SPN.

And these reasons NEED to get to the CW. ;)

Brakiss

02-10-2008, 06:34 AM

I would definetly give it a shot! GA is a very well written character and, unlike Clark, he has got some "cochones" (dont know the correct spelling but i hope you get the meaning ;) )

Off topic and no need to realy answer and by no means supposed to hijack this thread:
Btw, did anybody watch the Movie Equilibrium? Well, whoever planned the Pistol/Bow figth between Lex and GA sure DID watch it :p

MMPR20

02-10-2008, 06:59 AM

I think a Green Arrow series would kick major ass! Believe me The CW needs a good show to build on for the future. Look at the shows they have now:

Smallville: should be ending after this season, 8 seasons would be overkill imo. They've run out of ideas, what is really left to tell other than Clark becoming Superman, but we know that'll never happen if he doesn't get off the farm anytime soon. I loved it when GA put him in his place.

Supernatural: Dawn Ostroff doesn't "get" this show, why u ask, because she wants every show to be like OTH and GG, this is the coolest established show they will have left after Smallville's said and done.

One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl: One show that is fading fast, and the other should be cancelled too cuz it sucks. Why does Dawn think this is quality television?

Reaper: Its just a Supernatural knock-off and not even a very good one from what I'm told, I mean the main characters name is Sam, sound familar to anyone or is it just me?

So the bottom line is they should make the Green Arrow series, what other choices do they really have cuz u know they have a bad history of keeping shows on longer than they should be, and choosing to keep the old shows instead of establishing new hits is not good for business.

KSiteTV

02-10-2008, 07:42 AM

Craig, just wondering, what did you mean by

?

I didn't see anything else about SPN.

And these reasons NEED to get to the CW. ;)

Ack! When I was formatting the page my whole paragraph about a Supernatural/Reaper pairing in addition to the Smallville/Green Arrow idea apparently disappeared. Or in my half-asleep stupor right now I can't find it at least. I'll fix that. Haha.

Krypton935

02-10-2008, 08:25 AM

Green Arrow spinoff would be amazing! I just read the column and that list needs to get to the CW those are some great reasons I know a lot of people would watch it!

Spirit Detective

02-10-2008, 09:49 AM

Supernatural and Reaper would make a good night.

m8918

02-10-2008, 10:11 AM

i liked the episode on smallville with the justice leauge, not that i wouldn't watch the green arrow spinoff, but i prefer justice leauge.

LovelyLoisLane

02-10-2008, 12:07 PM

You won't find and argument from me on a spinoff show featuring Erica Durance and Justin Hartley, I love their chemistry. Dinah and Lois in Smallville certainly had very open animosity for eachother, one could argue that it was so much animosity it didn't really make sense and made both characters seem catty (especially Dinah), so it would be a more entertaining rivalry for Oliver's affections than we've seen on Smallville so far . . . but . . . as much as I adore Lolliepop I'd be worried about Lois becoming another Lana to the 'canon relationship' of Dinah and Oliver.

One thing though, Green Arrow has never been as popular as he has since his appearances on 'Smallville' and he would definitely draw in a lot of viewers. You are also right about the ease in which they can 'recycle' sets from "Smallville'

I'd watch it. They could also feature cameos of other heroes so it would sort of be like a more minimized Justice League show. Two birds, one stone, one hour of television that THIS viewer would be interested in. :)

Luv4PhilCollins729

02-10-2008, 12:58 PM

I would so totally watch a Green Arrow series. I don’t think those CW dumbbells would give us that, instead we’d get more stupid half-hour sitcoms or more crappy shows like GG. This list needs to get into the hands of the people at the CW but I don’t think it would do any good because they wouldn’t even consider it.

KaraClarkfan

02-10-2008, 12:59 PM

that would be a wonderful! i would like to see those two back on tv again!

GreenArrowFan06

02-10-2008, 01:38 PM

I think a Green Arrow/Black Canary spin-off would be the best thing that the CW has created, since Smallville and Supernatural. Justin is way on board with the whole GA spin-off thing and his daughter, Isabella, really LOVES the Green Arrow, so he'd be more than happy to do it. I do agree with Lois Lane not being a regular, seeing as how she could possibly turn into a Drama-Queen-Lana, getting between Oliver and Dinah....but maybe a guest appearance. I mean, they've already had a good parting in 'Siren', it wouldn't really be wise to have another one. Chloe joining the cast as a regular, as Watchtower, would be a great idea as well. Her and the Green Arrow make a great duo. Laura Vandervoort is contracted to s8 of sV, but it'd be cool to have her do guest appearances, along with maybe Lois and/or Clark for a one or two episode appearance. And last but not least, Aquaman, Bart, Cyborg, and Martian Manhunter would be a great addition to a show like this. Plus, there are even more JLA characters out there that sV hasn't had the opportunity to cast, such as Batman or Wonder Woman or even the Green Lantern. Which makes sense since the GL is the GA's best friend. And I liked the Angel of Vengeance, she was interesting. And it's not like a spin-off couldn't use as many JLA characters as they can get their hands on. But the show could be about Justice and developing Oliver and Dinah's relationship, along with introducing more of the JLA members and their abilities. I think it would be a GREAT hit and I would definitely watch it.

ClarkyBoy14

02-10-2008, 01:53 PM

For what it's worth, I sent a link to the article (I hope you don't mind, Craig) and a request for this series to the CW (feedback@cwtv.com), but who knows if they even read their mail.

cksidekick

02-10-2008, 02:06 PM

KSiteTV

02-10-2008, 02:29 PM

For what it's worth, I sent a link to the article (I hope you don't mind, Craig) and a request for this series to the CW (feedback@cwtv.com), but who knows if they even read their mail.

Hey, I'd be all for that... though I know networks prefer regular mail. With that said...

Dawn Ostroff
President of the CW Network
11800 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90025

;)

InLove_with_Chloe

02-10-2008, 02:32 PM

^
OK, I have to restrain myself now.......otherwise I'll send her a horse's head.
:lol:
Just kidding.....
;)

ClarkyBoy14

02-10-2008, 02:36 PM

^
OK, I have to restrain myself now.......otherwise I'll send her a horse's head.
:lol:
Just kidding.....
;)

:lol:

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Hey, I'd be all for that... though I know networks prefer regular mail. With that said...

Dawn Ostroff
President of the CW Network
11800 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90025

;)

Thanks for the address! I'll have to get a letter out soon.

Drew

02-10-2008, 08:54 PM

I completely agree with this article. In fact, it inspired me to write to the CW and let them know how much I want a spin off. I encourage everyone else to do the same. If they know there is fan interest, then they are more likely to make it happen.

feedback@CWTV.com

I'm also sending the email I sent out via snail mail.

Superboy2

02-11-2008, 01:18 AM

I would prefer a JLA show over GA, but then again we could have the other members as special guest and they could be like Lois who is in 13 episode of the season, so switch them off. Just have Ollie, Dinah, and like 2 others that are in every episode.

Drew

02-11-2008, 03:49 AM

Yeah, obviously a JLA series would be way better, but it just seems much more likely that they would do a Green Arrow one due to the rights. I'll be more than happy with any Smallville spinoff.

Mike Mancini

02-11-2008, 06:25 AM

This article should be sent directly to the who's who of the CW! Right to Dawn Ostroff's Inbox if you ask me! He hit the nail right on the head. With SmackDown! leaving the network and smallville finishing off probably next season, they really are left with pretty much nothing on their network. I think Smallville/Green Arrow night and a Supernatural/Reaper night are perfect fits for each other. And after smallville finishes next season, you could have a Kara/Supergirl spinoff as well to take it's place with Green Arrow. CW really needs to get their heads out of their asses and realize that this really would be the best move for them. I can't help but to think that Auquaman would already be on the air if this were still The WB.

Lara Lane

02-11-2008, 01:54 PM

You won't find and argument from me on a spinoff show featuring Erica Durance and Justin Hartley, I love their chemistry. Dinah and Lois in Smallville certainly had very open animosity for eachother, one could argue that it was so much animosity it didn't really make sense and made both characters seem catty (especially Dinah), so it would be a more entertaining rivalry for Oliver's affections than we've seen on Smallville so far . . . but . . . as much as I adore Lolliepop I'd be worried about Lois becoming another Lana to the 'canon relationship' of Dinah and Oliver.

Totally agreed, I'd hate to see that relationship to become the horrible triangles but Lois' character is not the kind that would go that way.

that said, I'd absolutely love a GA spin-off!

ClarkyBoy14

02-11-2008, 02:22 PM

I created a petition at PetitionOnline. It doesn't have very many signatures right now; but if it gets a lot, I'm going to send it in.

http://www.petitiononline.com/gasocw1/petition.html

If it gets enough support, I'll probably email and snail mail it. ;)

Darth Pipes

02-11-2008, 08:54 PM

I've definitely favor either a Green Arrow or Justice League TV series.

ZIPBAGS

02-11-2008, 08:58 PM

Besides fans hopes. Has their been actual news/rumors that the powers that be at the CW are even considering this??

Thanks!

Superboy2

02-11-2008, 11:01 PM

That would be cool for both a Kara/Supergirl show and a GA/BC or just GA show. GA with GA, BC, Bart in most of the episodes with Aquaman, Cyborg and Angel of Vengeance appearing in like 11-13 episodes during the season. Then have a full season villain, and maybe an old friend of Ollie's or something. A cop/ sheriff maybe. I don't know.

kiv-el

02-12-2008, 07:18 AM

Why any all of of them in one show. Cyborg, manhunter, Chole, Impulse, Aquaman, Green, Black and appearances by Supergirl.

Each episode would not have to have each hero in it. The built in villians are the lex-military group but as in X Files not every eisode has to be about the main villian.

you have blooming sexual tention between green and black, and posibly others Chole,
cyborg.

Manhunter trainer of hero.

'there are possiblilities

Superboy2

02-12-2008, 01:02 PM

So every hero is in like 5-7 episodes a season. That still leaves a few episodes without them. Plus they don't have 2 interact with Ollie all the time.

Atomic girl

02-12-2008, 03:18 PM

The CW might not have much time to prepare pilots, so greenlighting (pun intended) a GA show would be perfect right about now.I would love to see a Green Arrow show with guest spots by the Justice League.....CW, please listen to us fans.....

KSiteTV

02-12-2008, 05:18 PM

Besides fans hopes. Has their been actual news/rumors that the powers that be at the CW are even considering this??

Thanks!

A Justice League spin-off is talked about quite a bit in my upcoming Smallville Season Six companion book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1845766563/gijoevid)... also, I remember back around the time of "Justice" Dawn Ostroff said "never say never" to a Justice League spin-off but it's pretty clear she was fibbing.

ClarkyBoy14

02-12-2008, 08:36 PM

She also said that to TVGuide.com about a GA spin-off early last season.

I can understand the fear that it can be expensive, but if they kept it to just a few heroes for normal episodes, or even just focused on Ollie/GA, would it be so expensive that they can't even take a chance on it?

Surely they could offset the costs w/ the money they bring in from advertisments, right?

Sideshow

02-13-2008, 02:11 AM

I haven't read pages 2-5, so I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but I vehemently disagree with reason 14. Super Max is an absolutely brilliant idea. Not only is it something vastly different than what we've seen in a comic book movie, the brilliant David Goyer is writing the script, it has the potential to showcase DC villains that otherwise would never be allowed outside the comic or JLU sandboxes, and it has the potential to be an amazing action/thriller that can mix elements from other great genres to show what a consummate badass Green Arrow (and by extension the DCU) really is. Super Max is the most unique comic book movie idea to come along...well, ever. Everything else is just a tried-and-true, carbon copy iconic representation of the characters we know and love on the big screen. While this is by no means bad, it's refreshing to have something so intriguing and amazing as Super Max as a possibility, and something that could show the world that more than just the first-tier characters like Superman, Batman, the X-Men, and Spider-Man have something to offer the world.

I also disagree with your idea that potentially the entire cast of Smallville with the exception of Clark and Lana would have roles on a Green Arrow series. The idea of a spin-off is to introduce new settings and new characters. While Frasier had occasional one-off episodes where A character from Cheers would visit, the entire cast didn't just up and travel with him to the new series. It wouldn't work like that. If GA got his own show, there would have to be a completely new cast to come with it (with the exception of Black Canary, who is set up to come with him).

ClarkyBoy14

02-13-2008, 06:23 AM

He only proposed Lois as a regular.

Have you seen Angel? From the original series, it had Angel, Cordelia, Wesley, Spike, Harmony (all as regulars), Buffy, Willow, Oz, Faith, Andrew, Darla, Drusilla and probably some I'm forgetting. ;)

cbears34

02-13-2008, 09:02 AM

I think a Green Arrow series would be a good move for CW and their finicial woes. Smallville has been a pretty big hit over seven seasons with Tom, and I think Justin is just as good an actor as Green Arrow. I have really enjoyed the way he and Tom interact with each as their characters it is like a young Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent struggling with each other which is what they are striving for any way. Any way until the legal parts with the Batman franchise can ever be put to rest and we can get a young Bruce Wayne show, I will take Green Arrow, most definetly.

heavenlycirce

02-13-2008, 12:46 PM

Well, an article on Hollywood Reporters said Justin has just signed a holding deal with the CW.
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Hartley signs holding deal with CW

Justin Hartley, most recently known for his role as Oliver Queen -- aka the Green Arrow -- on the CW's "Smallville," has inked a talent holding deal with the network.

Hartley's association with the CW extends beyond "Smallville," which he was tapped to join in 2006 starting with the show's sixth season. He also played the title role in the network's Aquaman pilot, which had been in contention for fall 2006, and more recently was in the CW pilot "Spellbound" as well as the network's "Eight Days a Week."

His credits include the upcoming Warner Bros. feature film "Spring Breakdown" opposite Amy Poehler, Will Arnett, Parker Posey and Rachel Dratch.

Hartley is repped by Innovative Artists and managers Ted Gekis and Daniel Ribera.

Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i8fd23e958e0d1f337217b8557958f37c
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I guess that could pave the way for a GA show after Smallville ends and if Justin's show, Eight Days a Week, which is in development for the 2008-2009 season doesn't do well.

ClarkyBoy14

02-13-2008, 12:55 PM

I hope that's good news for a GA series.

Even if not, I'm glad the CW can at least recognize talent... sometimes.

And thanks for posting that!

WickedJenn

02-13-2008, 02:17 PM

A Justice League spin-off is talked about quite a bit in my upcoming Smallville Season Six companion book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1845766563/gijoevid)... also, I remember back around the time of "Justice" Dawn Ostroff said "never say never" to a Justice League spin-off but it's pretty clear she was fibbing.

I enjoyed your write-up on the K-Site News section about the 15 reasons for a GA spin-off.

Chlarkerlover

02-13-2008, 04:10 PM

Supergirl might be "Smallville with a girl."

That sent shivers down my back. Do you think you could stand seven years of Kara becoming a woman?:rotfl:

I agreed with all your reasons, but was a little confused about #11. Do you mean that The GA/BC show would be good in friday/thursdays slot with Supernatural, or That it'd be good in Fridays while Supernatural would be good with Reaper? If the last one, I'd have to disagree. I watch both, and think it'd be a weird combination, a seriously dark show followed/before a sudden comedy would seem a little awkward, at least to me.

ginnyfan

02-13-2008, 06:43 PM

I don't know the Black Canary well enough to want a whole show built around her. LOL!

A Justice League show could be really fun. I kinda wish it would be on a different network though. *sigh*

Odysseus

02-13-2008, 09:16 PM

I definitely would watch a Justice League show. Smallville deserves a spinoff, and a show featuring Smallville's version of the League would definitely be a way for the CW to keep Smallville's viewers after Smallville ends.

Green Arrow, Black Canary, Impulse, Aquaman, and Cyborg are all awesome characters played by great actors.

I also think they should add Kara and maybe the Angel of Vengeance from Season 5. And Chloe could continue being "Watchtower" if they can convince Allison Mack to return (and I do think she'd be willing). And maybe, once in a while, Erica Durance and Aaron Ashmore could guest star as Lois and Jimmy working on a story that involves the League.

A show like this would definitely have great potential. It could absolutely deliver the ratings that the CW needs so desperately, and it would make a LOT of fans (myself included) very very happy. :)

Superboy2

02-14-2008, 02:32 AM

His Eight days a week show could ruin any chance of a GA spin-off.

ClarkyBoy14

02-14-2008, 02:36 PM

His Eight days a week show could ruin any chance of a GA spin-off.

After the CW ordered it to series in June, I haven't heard anything else about it. Is it definately going to be on the schedule in the fall? Because Craig's article said we may never see it.

Btw, he wasn't added to Eight Days a Week until after the CW passed on Spellbound. So if the CW wants a GA series (and that's a big if), couldn't they pull him back out of EDaW?

Conner Kent

02-14-2008, 03:24 PM

The idea of a Green Arrow/Justice League show is a great idea. As soon as "Justice" aired people were saying this is how the show should be. Smallville is fantastic, and I'll always be a Superman fan, but the idea of having a live-action Justice League show, done well, is the fanboy's dream. Craig Byrne's 15 reasons are all sound and make it believable that the CW should just shut down if they turn us down. Once Smackdown moves on and Smallville is finally over, the CW wont have much holding it up. I hope they pay attention to the fans and critics alike and allow The League to step up. BTW, The League is just what I would call it to seperate it from the Justice League cartoon series and Unlimited. The only thing that I could see halting The League is the live-action Justice League Movie in the works.

Lex3

02-15-2008, 08:30 AM

Honestly? I think the superhero show thing has overstayed its welcome, or at least for viewers. We don't represent the norm as fans at kryptonsite or at any other site, and there are people who watch smallville exclusively for the drama. It's tough to get another Lana-Clark thing going, and it was fortunate that people got to see through the mask of Smallville being "just another superhero show." Plus, people watch Smallville because it's about Superman, the most renowned superhero of all time, and it will be difficult to make a show about just any superhero. So, no, I don't think another super-show would hold a candle to Smallville, a show about the most important superhero ever.
As for why the ratings practically skyrocketed when the superheroes came to town, I think that fans do have a certain capacity for superheroes like the Flash and Cyborg, but whether or not they deserve an entire show is simply impugnable. I don't believe fans would relate to a show about those characters quite as much, and also-not to torch anybody's spirit- but the idea that Al and Miles had-a show about a childhood Superman-is simply unreplicable. I think it is doubtful that a Green Arrow- a superhero who until recently was completely obscure- stands much of a chance. I mean, Aquaman is a big name, and look what happened to that series/ episode.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Something just occurred to me. If Al and Miles cast Hartley in another series and that series fails, what are the odds that he'll do another series or even continue in Smallville's eighth season with such bitter feelings toward superhero dramas?

cbears34

02-15-2008, 01:01 PM

In my opinion GA would be a better bet than JL due to the fact it would extremely hard to create storylines for JL and fitting them into a 1 hour time slot. GA would be centralize around the one main character just like Smallville, whereas JL will be about multiple heros, and I know what you going to say Heroes does it, but even Heroes has had problems this year with their own storylines. Also moneywise GA would be cheaper on special effects, probably even cheaper than Smallville. Another problem with JL would be the rights to the characters, look how much trouble CW had to get Smallville onair with the rights on Superman being owned by the Shusters, we can't even get rights to a Batman series or even have a young Bruce Wayne appear on Smallville (which is so stupid that he can't appear) because of the legality of and who has the rights to characters, how can expect them to able to get rights to 4-5 characters besides GA.:mad:

smallvillelogan

02-15-2008, 02:50 PM

Yeah, really true, I don't know how much a JLA show would be liked if Batman wasn't part of it. It actually might struggle big-time without Batman, but if they could somehow get Batman on the small screen I think it would completely change the fortune of the show.

ClarkyBoy14

02-15-2008, 04:02 PM

Lex3, you know that Heroes is one of NBC's biggest hits right now and that Smallville is the CW's most watched scripted program, right?

And Bionic Woman also did very well when it premiered in the fall, but the ratings fell because people didn't like it, which means people still watch superhero stuff, but only if it's good.

ClarkyBoy14

02-17-2008, 06:42 PM

His Eight days a week show could ruin any chance of a GA spin-off.

I got to thinking today and I realized that Eight Days a Week must have already been cancelled. If the CW was still going ahead w/ it, why would they need to sign a holding deal w/ JH? They would already have him.

heavenlycirce

02-17-2008, 07:55 PM

If that is the case, why is it "currently under development (2008-2009 season)" on futon critic?

ClarkyBoy14

02-17-2008, 09:10 PM

You're right, it is. But Justin isn't mentioned in the press release or anything, so was he taken out? Afterall, wouldn't it be kind of pointless to sign that deal w/ him if they already have him?

On an off-topic note, most of the shows that the CW has in development sound pretty bad. :\

heavenlycirce

02-18-2008, 11:15 AM

He's in it. I'm pretty up-to-date with JH info since I help run a JH fansite. We're more up-to-date than Justin's official website, but whatever... lol He replaced the original actor who was supposed to play "Ben Bradley" last June or July. Futon critic just didn't update that particular info even though they did have news on it last year.

And you're right. A lot of the shows in development sound pretty crappy. But honestly, would you expect anything different? This is the CW afterall, and Dawn O. isn't picking good shows. http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/smilies/ez-ohwell.gif :rolleyes:

ClarkyBoy14

02-18-2008, 02:28 PM

They seriously need to get rid of her. But then again, they may not be able to find anyone who wants to take the job.

Superboy2

02-20-2008, 01:16 PM

I'll take Dawn's job. I would either make a pilot for the GA show with GA/Oliver, BC/Dinah, Bart/Impulse, with a few other main characters. I'd have AC, Cyborg, Kara, Angel of Vengeance, Chloe and other heroes guest star every now and then.

ProKrypto

02-27-2008, 09:14 AM

What would everyone else think of that idea? Personally I'd prefer that over a Supergirl show... I think that the GA/BC thing hasn't really been tapped, whereas Supergirl might be "Smallville with a girl."

Justin Hartley is definitely leading-man material though, in my opinion, and I hope Alaina Huffman will be good.

I agree with your points, Site. I have always wanted a Green Arrow show of its own with Justin Hartley starring. It would be the perfect fit and your points were accurate. As far as Huffman, well... if she's there, fine, if not, oh well. There's something Sharon Stoney about her. Don't ask, it's just...:confused:

We even discussed in the Green Arrow spin-off series?!!! thread that a Green Arrow show could been a little darker--noir--and Hartley would be good at it.

Except for Smallville/Supernatural, the CW better think up something to attract viewers. This noble venture between Warner Bros and CBS is going to turn into a byword for "Crappy Who cares?"

----- Added 22 Minutes later -----

Lex3, you know that Heroes is one of NBC's biggest hits right now and that Smallville is the CW's most watched scripted program, right?

And Bionic Woman also did very well when it premiered in the fall, but the ratings fell because people didn't like it, which means people still watch superhero stuff, but only if it's good.

You got that right. People like shows about superheroes with superpowers. A bionic woman is a not a superhero and it borders too much on Terminatorism. In that people are going to watch Sarah Connor Chronicles than some bionic b'tch fighting crime. YAWN!!

BTW, how come Fox picked up Chronicles instead of the CW? SCC is a Warner Bros product. Go figure.

ClarkyBoy14

03-09-2008, 07:39 AM

^Probably waaaay too expensive for the CW. I've never see T:TSCC, but I read that the pilot was very expensive to make.

christian_kryptonian

03-19-2008, 10:22 AM

Justice League!

Make another Justice episode in season 8 please!

shy175223

03-19-2008, 03:58 PM

definitley!

Superboy2

03-21-2008, 10:19 AM

They should have another JL episode, like with Ollie, Bart and Dinah. Then one more with all five of them with a new member, don't know who. Then the following fall(2009) make a spin-off GA/BC show with Bart as a regular as well and AC, Cyborg, Angel of Vengeance, and the other member is AoV isn't the new member guest star like in 8-10 episodes.

ClarkyBoy14

04-02-2008, 07:41 AM

EDaW isn't happening, but JH has a new pilot (Austin Golden Hour) which could ruin anymore chances of seeing the GA. :(

Superboy2

04-03-2008, 08:39 PM

Could it be that it is just a cover of a GA show?

heavenlycirce

04-04-2008, 10:53 PM

No. It's a medical drama. Justin is playing the leading role as one of the ER doctors.

chlo-el

04-05-2008, 03:20 PM

I want a Justice League spin off. Or a Green Aroow spinoff would be good. I really don't care about the Black Canary she looked way too much like cat woman to me.

ClarkyBoy14

05-15-2008, 07:44 PM

No. It's a medical drama. Justin is playing the leading role as one of the ER doctors.

Sounds like it's not going through. Maybe there's once again some hope for a GA or JLA series? *please*

Superboy2

05-15-2008, 11:33 PM

I'm hoping too.

cksidekick

05-16-2008, 10:44 AM

Bring The Green!!

Hopefulsuicide

06-01-2008, 07:48 PM

Green Arrow, Green Arrow, Green Arrow

repeat as needed, with a very angry looking crowd with banners and lead pipes following close behind :p

Jaded Wolf

06-06-2008, 09:25 AM

It would be cool to see a Green Arrow series but I just hate the fact that they would use the last season of Smallville to focus away from Clark and springboard GA. The focus has been off of Clark already quite a bit in the last year or two and now adding Green Arrow just seems like it will take it away more so. I'm really hoping Season Eight is more about Clark becoming Superman than just another year of no progress, teen drama. I'm hoping but not betting on it.

lauraforever

06-06-2008, 09:29 AM

Let's first see a Supergirl show, then maybe GA&BC show

Jaded Wolf

06-06-2008, 11:03 AM

Let's first see a Supergirl show, then maybe GA&BC show

Um... No... Especially not with Laura Vandervoort. I'm just not sure it would be handled seriously without CW turning it into an eye candy show instead of action.

jimmyolsenblues

06-06-2008, 11:24 AM

i would love any smallville spin off. really i would

STFanatic

06-06-2008, 12:52 PM

Personally I was never thrilled with Green Arrow, so I would honestly say I would rather have a Supergirl series.
Although from the start I was hoping they would do a younger version of Kara, I guess in the same vein as Smallville started showing a young teen version of Clark, but of her.

Absolutely I would watch because it is a superhero based series I even watched "My Secret Identity" back in the 80's because it had superpowers involved :p
But, if it were my choice, I would much rather have an "Impulse" series over all the "Justice" heroes.

Jaded Wolf

06-06-2008, 01:04 PM

ClarkyBoy14

06-07-2008, 02:29 PM

i would love any smallville spin off. really i would

I'm right there with you, Charlie. :D

STFanatic, I would love a Flash/Impulse spin-off as well. Unfortunately, Dawn O. would probably say Kyle Gallner doesn't have the "CW look." :rolleyes:

STFanatic

06-08-2008, 12:37 AM

Kyle Gallner has been doing pretty well for himself on CSI: NY as a reoccurring character, but from the first appearance as him as Bart in "Run" (which is my #2 favorite episode #1 being the pilot), I have wanted a series with Bart.

ClarkyBoy14

06-08-2008, 08:24 AM

Wasn't the WB trying to create one at one point?

Superboy2

06-08-2008, 09:09 AM

Yeah they were. Here is a list of all the spin-offs they wanted to do:
First was the Batman series, but got changed to Smallville. Then they wanted a Flash spin-off, a Lois Lane spin-off, and Aquaman spin-off that they actually filmed but cw is stupid, then possibly a Kara spin-off, a GA spin-off, and now possibly a JLA spin-off, or a GA/BC spin-off. I would prefer a GA/BC spin-off that has the others in it but not all of them are in every episode, like keep each one in like 16 episodes per season and a few episodes with all of them in it. Of course you'd need a full time villain, probably an oracle type character and some detective trying to find these "terrorists."

ClarkyBoy14

06-08-2008, 09:51 PM

^Wow, quite a list. I'm glad Batman was changed to Superman.

I'd like it if they made a spin-off with GA as the star and Eddie Fyers, BC, and possibly Kara as supporting characters. Like you said, occasional appearances by other DC heroes since Ollie is the creator of the JL in the Smallverse. And Maggie Sawyer (played by same woman) should transfer from Metropolis to Star City and begin investigating GA and his team so she can stop them. And maybe the S1 villain can be someone like Merlyn.

Superboy2

06-09-2008, 11:14 PM

Not sure who Merlyn and Eddie Fyers are. Maggie Sawyer would be a good fit for the detective role. I think the episodes should mostly have only about four leaguers of the group(GA,BC,AC,Impulse, Cyborg, Angel of Vengeance hopefully and then an oracle type person). Of course Ollie would have to be in every episode, BC doesn't need to be, she could be sent on solo missions or with another member in some episodes. I doubt they'd have the show with all of the leaguers in every episode.

ClarkyBoy14

06-10-2008, 07:02 AM

Eddie Fyers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Fyers

Merlyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlyn_%28DC_Comics%29

AM makes a good Oracle. Doubt she'd want to sign on for another series though.

Yah, it'd be too expensive and busy if they had them all in every ep.

Superboy2

06-10-2008, 03:19 PM

I could see them using those guys in the show if it were ever produced.

Skaterpen357

06-23-2008, 01:31 PM

As has been said, featuring every leaguer in every episode would be too hectic, and IMHO, would get a little stale after a while. GA/BC would work, but don't start their relationship right off the bat. JLA is present, but not in every episode, and not all at the same time. Also, expand the JLA to include other guests on Smallville like MM, Kara, and the Angel of Vengeance (just rename her Acrata already...), and others debuting in this theoretical/much hoped for show (GL, Question [character foil to GA?], etc., probably still no Batman or Wonderwoman). The League's absence from every single episode could be explained away with foreign missions and the like. The show's main focus, however, would concentrate on Central City (for the sake of sanity), and GA and BC would be the only constants (at least superhero-wise). As for Chloe as Oracle, that'd be optional. There'd probably be several kingpins of sorts in Central City, and their henchmen/gangs/etc. would serve the "FotW quota" in lieu of meteor freaks. So what do you think?

Superboy2

06-24-2008, 12:52 AM

I'd like GA/BC to be constants, as well as Bart with the third leaguer in more episodes than the other like AoV, AC, Cyborg, etc.

FlashInSV

06-24-2008, 04:04 AM

I believe a GA series would be great. Hartley definitely has what it takes to do the job and a GA/BC romance has depth that can be explored in a series. With a few crossovers from Lois Lane and Chloe 'Watchtower' Sullivan, as suggested in the Kryptonsite post "Green Arrow as a spin-off", the show would be very interesting indeed.

Justice Leaguers should be included in the said show, if not on a permanent basis, at least a different character in each episode..THAT would be awesome

guittarjedi

06-24-2008, 05:31 AM

The Black Canary on Smallville was horrible. I don't ever want to see her again.

Jade4813

06-24-2008, 05:37 AM

I wouldn't mind a GA series, but I HATED SV's BC with a passion. They would definitely have to rework her for me to find her tolerable in a series. I wanted to shoot her after ten minutes on SV.

guittarjedi

06-24-2008, 06:00 AM

I wouldn't mind a GA series, but I HATED SV's BC with a passion. They would definitely have to rework her for me to find her tolerable in a series. I wanted to shoot her after ten minutes on SV.

High five.:D

Superboy2

06-24-2008, 11:31 AM

I don't really know much about BC and haven't seen her on screen minus Birds of Prey, which doesn't really help. I thought that the use of her power was better in BoP than in SV.

guittarjedi

06-24-2008, 02:12 PM

I don't really know much about BC and haven't seen her on screen minus Birds of Prey, which doesn't really help. I thought that the use of her power was better in BoP than in SV.

Lori Laughlin was great as Black Canary on BOP. And she didn't make an ugly face using her canary cry.

Superboy2

06-24-2008, 02:50 PM

True. Sadly, I think Lori was also way prettier. Alaina is pretty and everything, but she doesn't beat Lori.

guittarjedi

06-24-2008, 03:15 PM

True. Sadly, I think Lori was also way prettier. Alaina is pretty and everything, but she doesn't beat Lori.

Agreed 100%. Lori was gorgeous, Alaina was meh.

ClarkyBoy14

07-01-2008, 04:03 PM

I think with a little work Alaina could do well. Change the BC get up (it works for a single ep, but not a whole series), work on the SFX.

Superboy2

07-06-2008, 11:08 AM

Hopefully in Odyssey she looks better.

LuthorKent90

07-06-2008, 12:36 PM

I'd prefer just a Green Arrow series, but I wouldn't mind a BC/GA series at all. ;)
Don't really understand how no one wants to do it. CW desperately needs ratings! :confused:

ClarkyBoy14

07-06-2008, 02:42 PM

^I know. It's stupid that the CW hasn't made one yet.

Superboy2, I bet they'll probably make a few changes.

Superboy2

07-07-2008, 12:16 AM

Is anyone petitioning the CW about this? I'm surprised Craig didn't send his 15 reasons to Dawn about the GA series.

Dom20

07-09-2008, 04:43 AM

Why not have both a GA series and JL series? Smallville is likely ending this season. Two superhero shows to replace it wouldn't hurt. I really like the Green Arrow/Black Canary series idea. They are a great couple in the comics. Fans would love to see what they do in a series.

Now a JL series would have to change a bit. All they have to do is replace GA and Clark. Supergirl can replace Clark the show needs more women anyway. Replacing GA would be more difficult. They would need a detective type. Both Batman and Green Lantern have movies coming. So there off the list. The only one I can think of right now is the Question. Only because I really liked his character on the Justice League Unlimited cartoon.

Superboy2

07-09-2008, 11:46 AM

I'd like two shows, but I would prefer if the JL were still part of the GA series somehow. It could be like heroes where not every hero is in every episode, just have Bart, AC, Cyborg, AoV(want her in it), Kara and another Leaguer be in about 13 episodes per season.

Dom20

07-09-2008, 07:20 PM

They can guest star once in while and vice versa for GA and BC on the other show.

STFanatic

07-09-2008, 07:45 PM

I was never a real fan of GA except when he was sharing a comic with Green Lantern.

Superboy2

07-09-2008, 08:38 PM

I think there best option would be that they have the JL series with Ollie and the other heroes besides Bart and Dinah appear in fewer episodes. Otherwise, if those two shows happened, fans might be upset that the JL show is without Ollie and the GA show without them and them in a different show, and fans would chooce one over the other and ruin both series.

Imzadia

07-09-2008, 11:05 PM

Superboy2

07-10-2008, 12:58 AM

They can also recast for BC. Not all of the leaguers need to be main cast members either, some could be in only 7 or 8 episodes. I would like Bart in more so than the rest. Plus you would need a villain, probably a cop as well, either a watchtower person or a non-superhero that knows about them etc.

dru-zod2501

07-10-2008, 02:12 AM

ClarkyBoy14

07-12-2008, 06:58 AM

bychance

07-12-2008, 11:54 AM

I'd rather see a Justice League show.

Superboy2

07-12-2008, 12:19 PM

I'd want the JL show.

STFanatic

07-12-2008, 12:37 PM

I would like a Superman series ;)

ClarkyBoy14

08-22-2008, 01:55 PM

I like the one I have right now. :)

STFanatic

08-22-2008, 03:34 PM

I like the one I have right now. :)

Would you please explain that statement, or is that an off topic comment?

Jade4813

08-22-2008, 03:44 PM

STFanatic, your avi is somehow both disturbing and oddly entrancing. :\ I confess to having a little crush on my Doctor man, but now I'm...I'm a little disturbed!

cksidekick

08-22-2008, 05:17 PM

I like the one I have right now. :)

i'm pretty shure i know what you mean...and i agree...;)

we have Clark and ollie as regulars as it is...just keep lining up as many previous characters as you can and add a few new ones in the second half of the season (and bring back Kara for an epi or two)...Smallville season 8 is darn near a spinoff of itself allready...but i'm delighted about it...:D

the only thing missing is the suit...