Did it occur to anyone that Dax-Ur could have been Superman?

[Nospam]

Did it occur to anyone that Dax-Ur could have been Superman? Also, the fact that other Kryptonians made it to earth destroys the sentiment that Clark is the last son of Krypton and the savior of mankind.

[Iluvgreen]

Yah, I had that thought flash through my mind for about a second, but I forgot about it till now.

[Eri-El]

Did it occur to anyone that Dax-Ur could have been Superman? Also, the fact that other Kryptonians made it to earth destroys the sentiment that Clark is the last son of Krypton and the savior of mankind.


I don't think Dax-Ur is Supes, because IMO Clark is the Last Son of Krypton AFTER it exploded. And also obviously Dax-Ur gave up his abilities.

[Nospam]

I don't think Dax-Ur is Supes, because IMO Clark is the Last Son of Krypton AFTER it exploded. And also obviously Dax-Ur gave up his abilities.

That wasn't really my point.

[Eri-El]

Well I did say IMO

[pacofajita]

Well, there is a "Jimmy is Superman" theory going around. :lol:

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I don't think Dax-Ur is Supes, because IMO Clark is the Last Son of Krypton AFTER it exploded. And also obviously Dax-Ur gave up his abilities.

You're right, last son means the last child born. Not the only living Kryptonian.

[Nospam]

You're right, last son means the last child born. Not the only living Kryptonian.

I have never interpreted the phrase that way, and I don't think it ever was intended to be taken that way.

[litew8]

...Clark is the Last Son of Krypton AFTER it exploded.

Exactly. But for them to crowd Earth with other Kryptonians is cheap. Doesn't make Superman unique in that sense. The producers and writers suck because they've cheapened the ledgend the way they have.

[Nospam]

Exactly. But for them to crowd Earth with other Kryptonians is cheap. Doesn't make Superman unique in that sense. The producers and writers suck because they've cheapened the ledgend the way they have.

That is my point. With so many Kryptonians kicking around the uniqueness and special nature of Clark's situation is completely cheapened, as you say.

[All about Clark]

I think that Clark someday choosing to act for the benefit of Earth does make him special and goes beyond what others have not done, such as Dax.

And I do take the last son of Krypton, meaning the last pure Kryptonian to be born. And that won't change, Clark's/Lois' child would not be pure kryptonian. He wouldn't be the last if he had a child with another kryptonian, and that would mean Kara (eww).

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Um, you guys did hear Dax say he intended to use his powers to save mankind, until he met Grace, right? He wanted to be Superman, but made a conscious decision not to be.

[LovelyLoisLane]

That wasn't really my point.


I don't really get what your point is. I'm not being rude, and maybe I'm just an airhead, or maybe you are being humorous and I don't get it . . . but what made you think Dax-ur was Superman?

He isn't Clark Kent.
He isn't Kal-el.
He was an adult scientist on Krypton that created BrainIAC.

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Um, you guys did hear Dax say he intended to use his powers to save mankind, until he met Grace, right? He wanted to be Superman, but made a conscious decision not to be.


Clark tried to make the same decision for Lana and a LOT of people were royally p*ssed, saying he couldn't just give up his destiny as Superman for Lana.

So . . . how does that make Dax-ur Superman? Or are you just saying he seemed Superman-like? I'm sorry . . . I'm just really confused.

[gameface25]

The whole underlying theme here is that he gave up being superman for a woman. That falls in line with this season and all the foreshadowing of Clark giving up Lana to move on to bigger things. It shows what life would be like for Clark if he used a blue K ring to be normal, as opposed to the big S

[LovelyLoisLane]

The whole underlying theme here is that he gave up being superman for a woman. That falls in line with this season and all the foreshadowing of Clark giving up Lana to move on to bigger things. It shows what life would be like for Clark if he used a blue K ring to be normal, as opposed to the big S


Oh, okay. So it was that Dax-ur was 'Superman-like" Okay. I get it. I thought I was missing something.:)

[Nospam]

I don't really get what your point is. I'm not being rude, and maybe I'm just an airhead, or maybe you are being humorous and I don't get it . . . but what made you think Dax-ur was Superman?

He isn't Clark Kent.
He isn't Kal-el.
He was an adult scientist on Krypton that created BrainIAC.

So . . . how does that make Dax-ur Superman? Or are you just saying he seemed Superman-like? I'm sorry . . . I'm just really confused.

Just that any Kryptonian could exercise their powers on Earth as a god. It sort of destroys the specialness that is Clark.

That's part of it.

[Mello Penelo]

You're right, last son means the last child born. Not the only living Kryptonian.

Interesting comparison. I've never thought about it in that way.

[Nospam]

So . . . how does that make Dax-ur Superman? Or are you just saying he seemed Superman-like? I'm sorry . . . I'm just really confused.

It was Dax-Ur's comment that he wanted to save mankind that was the impetus for this thread.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

impetus
Uh, Nospam......you are such a cunning linguist.
:p
;)
:lol:

[Nospam]

Uh, Nospam......you are such a cunning linguist.
:p
;)
:lol:

:lol:

Yes, I do like to give my tongue a good workout.

[LovelyLoisLane]

See, the way you wrote it made it seem like you were saying that Dax really WAS Superman. I don't think I'm an idiot for being confused about that.

I'm a pretty smart lass, so it just took someone explaining what was being said in a way that made sense to me.

I agree that he was Superman-ish.

[Nospam]

See, the way you wrote it made it seem like you were saying that Dax really WAS Superman. I don't think I'm an idiot for being confused about that.

I'm a pretty smart lass, so it just took someone explaining what was being said in a way that made sense to me.

I agree that he was Superman-ish.

:lol:

Ah, now I understand your confusion. I can see how my phrasing could be misinterpreted. My apologies. :)

[sabi908]

Exactly. But for them to crowd Earth with other Kryptonians is cheap. Doesn't make Superman unique in that sense. The producers and writers suck because they've cheapened the ledgend the way they have.
That's what smallville writers have most succeeded at...cheapening the legend of Superman...esp by making Clark a Lana-whipped wimp

[clana4everfan2]

I found it interesting how Clark was shocked that Dax-Ur was able to have a family and live the life that Clark wishes he could have but knows deep down it's really not possible and that he must follow his destiny.. well slowly he may be realizing that. The whole Blue K bracelet seemed to make CK think of the possibilities for a brief moment .. possibly of what he could have with Lana.

[jor-el6]

Dax-Ur has a son? A half-Kryptonian boy?

[ginnyfan]

I enjoyed the parallel between Dax-Ur and Clark. Dax-Ur ran away from his mistakes (creating Brainiac and inadvertently destroying Krypton). He ran away from heroism, abandoned his powers for love and had a kid. The consequence? His past caught up with him and he got drilled in the head.

That and the fact that Clark was not at all enthused about using blue K to be mortal and live happily ever after was very heartening.

[LovelyLoisLane]

:lol:

Ah, now I understand your confusion. I can see how my phrasing could be misinterpreted. My apologies. :)


No problem.

Coulda' been those green brownies I was eating . . . they did smell rather suspect come to think of it. :p

[kal-el returns]

the idea that dax-ur is superman, is plausible but with the content from previous seasons, it implies that he's not. for example that kawatche legends states that the chosen one, naman (aka superman) will fall from the skies, or something to that extent, dax-ur arrived through a portal. so this theory is completely refuted by the kawatche legend

[Nospam]

Dax-Ur has a son? A half-Kryptonian boy?

I think there was a thread on that topic, but interesting point.

[tupacinaly]

dax-ur is a gimp and overall a weak storyline. i am still waiting 2 c the epi as i live in scotland but how the hell does he have a half kryptonian child that wont hasnt appeared in the comics or anywhere else? i treat sville as a completely different universe but i still prefer it when they are explaining existing comic charachters backstories (because there are enuff 2 fill ten seasons) when they deviate from clarks path 2 superman than just making up bulls**t charachters. dr swan was plausible and quite a nice way 2 guest CR even tho they seemed 2 just 4get about him( i do realise CR died but they could have finished off the story of what swan was all abt). M. McLure is a great guest 2 have I love it when they guest existing actors from the franchise. but as a kryptonian refugee who takes away 10 times what he adds 2 the overall story give me a break. wtf is goin on in tptbs heds? anyway sure I'll njoy the episode as i do with all others.

[Praxis]

Exactly. But for them to crowd Earth with other Kryptonians is cheap. Doesn't make Superman unique in that sense. The producers and writers suck because they've cheapened the ledgend the way they have.

Oh please. Have you ever read the comics? Kryptonians show up left and right. Heck they just had a storyline a month or two ago where Clark found some woman who was a Kryptonian hiding from a race of aliens that hated Kryptonians on Earth, figuring they'd find Superman before her so she'd have cover. Then they have the entire Kryptonian city of Kandor, and Supergirl, and Zod, and a number of other Kryptonians.

Plus Power Girl is Kryptonian, Superboy is Kryptonian (the young clone, not Clark himself) I suppose, and heck even Krypto is Kryptonian. Let's not bring up all of the alternate-universe Supermen.

The writers haven't done any worse than the ones in the comic book.

[lastwords]

I enjoyed the parallel between Dax-Ur and Clark. Dax-Ur ran away from his mistakes (creating Brainiac and inadvertently destroying Krypton). He ran away from heroism, abandoned his powers for love and had a kid. The consequence? His past caught up with him and he got drilled in the head.

That and the fact that Clark was not at all enthused about using blue K to be mortal and live happily ever after was very heartening.

Thats what sets clark apart (clearly) from all the others. They should just get this clark and lana thing over with. figure out where its going to go (not that i'm against clark and lana) And just let clark be superman and save mankind form whatever he need to save it from.

He should be flying now too. Clark just needs to fly.:p

[All about Clark]

I think it will be Clark's choice to be Superman is what makes him special, not that he's kryptonian. Because any kryptonian could be Superman, they see the potential, but being Superman is hard, and it takes someone special to chose the more difficult route.

I agree with Gameface, that Dax-Ur showed him a life he could chose. And that this season Clark is leaning away from that life. I think that Lois loving Superman allows Clark to remain Superman.

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Dax-Ur has a son? A half-Kryptonian boy?

Interesting concept, Dax would have been depowered with his blue K. He would have had sex like any human and I would think any fluids would be depowered as well. Does that mean the kid would have no power? Or is he half kryptonian with powers?

[Who]

Seeing how Dax-Ur is dead now, Clark would still be the last man from Krypton and Earth's savior. Dax-Ur didn't seem really keen on the savior bit either. As far as surviving Kryptonians go blame DC for that. There is Kara, those Kryptonians that Brainiac shrunk that are floating out in space somewhere, and all those prisoners trapped in the Phantom Zone...