Brainiac as Lionel

[chloesmygirl]

Why did Brainiac in the guise of Lionel tell Clark how to destroy Bizzaro? Is it because he was afraid that Biz could kill him?

[minerva73]

He did it so that he could find the location of Dax-Ur and get the information on how to reconstruct himself. Brainiac wasn't really worried about Bizi, but more about his own survival.

[xrayvision]

Maybe. I just think it was stupid for the 2 not to team up. Brainiac is vulnerable to the FOS crystals. Clark & Jor-El are too much of a danger. They should have teamed up and used the black crystal ala Solitude to try to kill Clark and destroy the FOS. Bizarro unlike Brainiac could insert the black crystal without getting destroyed.

[chloesmygirl]

He did it so that he could find the location of Dax-Ur and get the information on how to reconstruct himself. Brainiac wasn't really worried about Bizi, but more about his own survival.


Duh. Silly me I should have known that. Now that I think back on it that's obvious.

Thanks a lot minerva.

[superspider02]

Yea he was using everyone like he said to dax at the end. Yea it would have been cool if they did team up against clark.

[xrayvision]

Is Dax-Ur dead, or did he just remove info from his brain? I would think he's alive since the protrusions from his hands were like probes instead of knives.

[minerva73]

Maybe. I just think it was stupid for the 2 not to team up. Brainiac is vulnerable to the FOS crystals. Clark & Jor-El are too much of a danger. They should have teamed up and used the black crystal ala Solitude to try to kill Clark and destroy the FOS. Bizarro unlike Brainiac could insert the black crystal without getting destroyed.

They should have done more together, but maybe Brainiac didn't want his cover to be blown until he completely regained total control of the situation. :) That's what I'm thinking at least.


Duh. Silly me I should have known that. Now that I think back on it that's obvious.

Thanks a lot minerva.

I know exactly what you mean. I felt like that about the Dax-Ur/Clark scene too. It was confusing when I saw it at first, but now that I rethink that scene I see that it was simple.
Nah, it's nothing. :)

[Vergon6]

Jor-El in this version seemed to know exactly who Bizarro was as soon as he entered the Fortress, although part of that has to do with Clark was frozen, but also Brainiac could tell the difference without the knowledge of what happened to Clark. So there is a fail-safe against Bizarro doing any funny business, as opposed to say the cartoons (and I imagine the comics), where Bizarro could play around with the Fortress all he wanted.

I think Brainiac basically saw Bizarro only as a short-term pawn that would become a liability in the long run, especially given his vulnerability to sunlight. With Bizarro out of the way, Brainiac can concentrate on his new plan to manipulate the House of El, whatever that actually is, I have no idea.

[xrayvision]

So there is a fail-safe against Bizarro doing any funny business, as opposed to say the cartoons (and I imagine the comics), where Bizarro could play around with the Fortress all he wanted.

Well, I think the only fail-safe was Clark. He taunted Jor-El and Jor-El couldn't stop him except for releasing Clark. This leads me to believe that if Bizarro was placed in the Phantom Zone that he could leave & bring other prisoners with him since he has Clark's DNA.

[pacofajita]

Brainiac is vulnerable to the FOS crystals.

What? When did this happen?

[MidgardDragon]

One of the best scenes of this episode, btw. For a moment I thought TPTB had gone loopy and made Lionel all knowing, then when he turned back into Brainiac it was so obvious. They certainly fooled me, anyway.

[xrayvision]

^^5th season.

[pacofajita]

^^5th season.

Impaled and vulnerable are two very different things.

[xrayvision]

Well, he had to have Clark place the black crystal in the FOS because if he touched it, it would have destroyed him. That's why he couldn't do it himself. That's also why Lionel's touch when he was possessed by Jor-El's AI, also killed him.

[pacofajita]

Well, he had to have Clark place the black crystal in the FOS because if he touched it, it would have destroyed him. That's why he couldn't do it himself.

I was under the impression it was because only Clark could use the crystals.


That's also why Lionel's touch when he was possessed by Jor-El's AI, also killed him.

Jor-El just knew Brainiac's weakness. He exploited it. It didn't have anything to do with crystals.

[xrayvision]

The crystals contain the same code as the FOS and Jor-El. So if Brainiac is vulnerable to Jor-El's AI coding, then he is also vulnerable to the crystals and the dagger, which was also a crystal. The dagger pretty much proves it. It came from the console with the rest of the crystals and destroyed all copies of Fine (even the one in the plane).

[Spirit Detective]

Is Dax-Ur dead, or did he just remove info from his brain? I would think he's alive since the protrusions from his hands were like probes instead of knives.

If I was Brainiac, I would have taken the metal from Dax-Ur's body as well as his knowledge.

[ClareKent]

Maybe Dax-Ur's still alive just in coma or something like that, anyway, I doubt we're gonna see him again.

[KristinKrazy]

He did it so that he could find the location of Dax-Ur and get the information on how to reconstruct himself. Brainiac wasn't really worried about Bizi, but more about his own survival.

yup, *nods head vigorously* BRANIAC wasn't at 100% yet, so Bizarro may have been able to kill him or just wound him to square 1 again, and maybe, as I'm assuming the "you are my creator/father" mentality that his AI form may have, he may have just been curious...although obviously didn't show that since he just killed him...sheesh

I liked Dax-Ur, and Marc McClure played him very well, dignified, brave and...human

[DreadShamus]

Is Dax-Ur dead, or did he just remove info from his brain? I would think he's alive since the protrusions from his hands were like probes instead of knives.

Agreed. Neither actor is listed for any future episodes yet... so we'll have to wait and see.

[kal-el returns]

medically speaking, brainiac did penetrate dax-ur's head at the temples, which would be equivalent to a person impaling someone at the temples, too. kryptonian-on-krpytonian damage is the same as human-on-human damage