Mistakes/Inconsistencies & Plotholes in Persona

[xrayvision]

This is the thread for mistakes & plotholes found in Persona.

One plothole/mistake I found in the director's cut that may or may not air is how Brainiac says Dax-Ur is his creator. This is a contradiction of what Lara said in Lara. In that episode she said Jor-El's Brain Interactive Construct, not Dax-Ur's. I hope they either cut that scene out or they seriously explain it because it's ridiculous if such a contradiction goes unexplained after only 4 episodes since Lara's statement was said.

[reobeem]

It could be possible Jor-El headed the research while Dax-Ur made it himself.

[TheLastKryptonian]

It could be possible Jor-El headed the research while Dax-Ur made it himself.

I think that's possible. One of them came up with the idea and planning and the other one did the actual work.

[superhippie2000]

Dax-Ur was supposed to be like really really old like a thousand years right? could be brainiac is his computer system long ago on krypton and he was an engineer which is why he is a machanic (basing this on images) so Dax could of had brainiac as a laptop computer like we have now and since they are adavanced by now that computer has been upgraded so much but Jor El could have made brainiac what brainiac is. a shape shifter all knowledgable super computer. Then Zod reprogrammed him which then made brainiac Zods creation. So kind of last to update it was the one to create it for what it is.

[Superboy2]

Except Dax-Ur had been here for a hundred years, and how would he know the portals were destroyed since they were destroyed after the sixties cause thats how Jor-El first came here same as Lara and Kara.

[WickedJenn]

I thought Dax-Ur said he HELPED create Brainiac.

[Clois is Canon]

Dax-Ur said that it was his technology that led to the creation of Brainiac. So it is possible that while Jor-El actually made Brainiac, that Dax-Ur was the person who came up with the idea and came up with the technology needed to create such a being in the first place.

[WickedJenn]

Dax-Ur said that it was his technology that led to the creation of Brainiac. So it is possible that while Jor-El actually made Brainiac, that Dax-Ur was the person who came up with the idea and came up with the technology needed to create such a being in the first place.

Well said.

[xrayvision]

Dax-Ur said that it was his technology that led to the creation of Brainiac. So it is possible that while Jor-El actually made Brainiac, that Dax-Ur was the person who came up with the idea and came up with the technology needed to create such a being in the first place.

Hmm, I forgot what he said exactly, but if you're right, then that would be a good explanation. I really think we deserve a full blown story on Brainiac's creation, Brainiac's corruption, and the destruction of Krypton.

[Chlarkislove]

Does it count as a mistake when Clark uses the device in the DP which is owned by Lex? Maybe Chloe should have mentioned that.

[Clois is Canon]

Hmm, I forgot what he said exactly, but if you're right, then that would be a good explanation. I really think we deserve a full blown story on Brainiac's creation, Brainiac's corruption, and the destruction of Krypton.

I might be off a little, but the first 3 episodes of Superman: The Animates Series went into some detail about how everything went down. Let me see if I can remember. Brainiac was the final decision-maker when it came down to deciding if Jor-El's scientific findings were accurate or if they were flawed. These findings would have given the people of Krypton a chance to survive, but Brainiac dismissed them as being outlandish. When Jor-El confronted Brainiac about the situation, he found that Brainiac was too powerful and was able to reprogram himself for self-preservation, instead of preserving Kryptonian life--the reason he was created. And because Brainiac was trusted with all that information, he was easily the smartest being on the planet. He was able to escape Krypton and survive, while the planet perished because they trusted Brainiac instead of Jor-El.

I know that isn't completely accepted continuity in the Superman universe, but I always thought it made sense.

[aqgalaxy]

In the Chlark reunion scene, Chloe's bracelet was moved from her left wrist to the Right so it can be in the shot during the hug.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I really think we deserve a full blown story on Brainiac's creation, Brainiac's corruption, and the destruction of Krypton.

I would love it if they did that, but it would probably be too expensive.

I have a question. Didn't Dax-Ur say the reason he decided to come to earth and stay is because Brainiac corrupted? How did he know that happened if he hasn't been to Krypton in over 100?

[Billy Jor-El]

When Bizclark comes into the house where Lana and Chloe are you can see sunlight on his face from the glass in the door, also as he walks in from the light, why wouldn't he have been all, uh, stoned?

[xrayvision]

I would love it if they did that, but it would probably be too expensive.

I have a question. Didn't Dax-Ur say the reason he decided to come to earth and stay is because Brainiac corrupted? How did he know that happened if he hasn't been to Krypton in over 100?

I think he went back and forth to Krypton for a while, perhaps to grab some tools & instruments he had there to conduct his experiments. We know Brainiac was created during Jor-El's lifetime, probably not long before Clark was born. I'm not sure how long Kryptonians in the Smallville universe live on Krypton, but I'm guessing the fact that he lived that long means that he had to spend long periods on Earth. As of the 1986 flashback in Lara, Brainiac had not been corrupted yet since Lara spoke well of "Jor-El's Brainiac" as she put it. I think Dax-Ur left because he knew what could possibly happen with Brainiac's technology. From his conversation with Clark, it seemed like he didn't know Krypton was destroyed.

I doubt we'll ever get a straight story on this. I think Dax-Ur just made things more confusing and messed things up more. I've been saying that Dax-Ur should have been revealed to be Virgil Swann. It would have wrapped up many questions in the past and would explain why he was monitoring space so much (because he would have been looking for Brainiac's presence & messages from Krypton).

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Dax-Ur's son would have been half Kryptonian, there is no way that the Blue K turns them into full blooded Earthly humans of all the creatures in the universe. If he is supressing his powers to be with his wife chances are she doesn't know, so how does it work when Dax Jr. has to go to the doctor or gets too far from Blue K?

[LovelyLoisLane]

I think the Dax-ur thing was that he 'fashioned' BrainIAC while Jor-el launched the program. Which is why Lara called it 'JOR-EL'S brain interactive construct'

Plothole I noticed. If Bizarro has all of Clark's memories, and Clark knew where the shield was, why didn't Bizarro know where the shield was?

Though this isn't a plot hole . . . that old Dax-ur sure had a young wife. ;)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Bizarro had Clark's memories up to the end of S6, when he took a piece of Clark's DNA. The shield thing happened after that.

[litew8]

If Jor-El could trap Clark inside of the FOS so easily, why didn't he trap BiZaRrO when he showed up. FLAW

[LovelyLoisLane]

If Jor-El could trap Clark inside of the FOS so easily, why didn't he trap BiZaRrO when he showed up. FLAW


Maybe he can only trap someone that has his D.N.A I mean when Chloe showed up there he didn't trap her in ice, just tried to freeze her to death. Bizarro isn't as physically fragile as a human, so Jor-el couldn't try the meat locker trick and since Bizarro wasn't a Kryptonian he couldn't use the ice cube trick on him either.

I don't know though . . . could have been just a plothole.

This isn't a plothole, but it doesn't make much sense when you think about it.

BrainIAC is a super intelligent alien A.I

Clark would know it was him in an instant when he's wearing the 'face' of ex-Professor Milton Fine. So why not have a different face? I know it's because James Marsters brings in viewers, so I can live with, but for a super intelligent computer that's a pretty sloppy way to manage your appearance.

Unless of course he can't look any different because he is still too weak to be at full power and maybe can only look like people that he has previously sampled because he can't update his processor? Who knows.

[Atomic girl]

Does anyone know why Bizarro felt that he couldn't kill Clark himself. He mentioned (to Brainiac) that the green kryptonite makes him(Bizarro) drain Clark's power, but it didn't make sense? Wouldn't that be an advantage, not disadvantage?

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

^ because if bizarro touches green-k he drains the rocks of there energy to power himself up, so whats the point of using a meteor rock if its effects are no longer in it

[RJLCyberPunk]

You know when somebody watches a freaking TV show's episode or movie just to look for darn plotholes and mistakes it's time to look for something else to do guys really!:rolleyes:

[Atomic girl]

^ because if bizarro touches green-k he drains the rocks of there energy to power himself up, so whats the point of using a meteor rock if its effects are no longer in itI get what you are saying, but why wouldn't he use the green kryptonite to give himself the energy to kill Clark?

[e-µ-i]

Is it me or there is a major plot hole when Bizzaro asks Chloe about the shield, and doesn't know that he (well, CK actually) has it ?
Remember, when we first met Bizzaro, he told to Clark that he also has his memories. That can be confirmed from knowing about Kara and Lana etc.
So can doesn't he remember the shield that Clark found ?

[Bizarrolover]

Is it me or there is a major plot hole when Bizzaro asks Chloe about the shield, and doesn't know that he (well, CK actually) has it ?
Remember, when we first met Bizzaro, he told to Clark that he also has his memories. That can be confirmed from knowing about Kara and Lana etc.
So can doesn't he remember the shield that Clark found ?

Clark found the shield after Bizarro was created, so Bizarro doesn't have that memory. Bizzy was created in Phantom, season 6 and the shield was found in Fierce,
season 7.