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harryandginnyfanatic
01-30-2008, 09:43 PM
That was a little uncalled for.

sabi908
01-30-2008, 09:45 PM
everything lana says or does is uncalled for!

jazel
01-30-2008, 09:47 PM
when did this happen ?

harryandginnyfanatic
01-30-2008, 09:49 PM
when did this happen ?

Chloe was trying to convince Lana that Clark wasn't himself. And Lana said "Chloe. Maybe it's time for you to let go of him a little."

tmack09
01-30-2008, 09:50 PM
hahaha...how about they BOTH should let Clark go...so he can fulfill his friggin Destiny...how about that! I love me some Clana but lawd knows this season 7 drama is driving me crazy...they are FINALLY together in a real relationship yet they couldn't be farther apart (BOTH OF THEM) so I say end the friggin thing and lets move on...

Wow never thought I'd say that and actually mean it! But if I can't get the beautiful Clana i want, and then they end it nicely...then I don't want it at all

Clark...put on the tights and the Big "S" on ur chest and lets get this show on the road!

harryandginnyfanatic
01-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Clark...put on the tights and the Big "S" on ur chest and lets get this show on the road!

Oh definately.

sabi908
01-30-2008, 09:55 PM
hahaha...how about they BOTH should let Clark go...so he can fulfill his friggin Destiny...how about that! I love me some Clana but lawd knows this season 7 drama is driving me crazy...they are FINALLY together in a real relationship yet they couldn't be farther apart (BOTH OF THEM) so I say end the friggin thing and lets move on...

Wow never thought I'd say that and actually mean it! But if I can't get the beautiful Clana i want, and then they end it nicely...then I don't want it at all

Clark...put on the tights and the Big "S" on ur chest and lets get this show on the road!
with Lois by his side :)

jazel
01-30-2008, 10:05 PM
hahaha...how about they BOTH should let Clark go...so he can fulfill his friggin Destiny...how about that! I love me some Clana but lawd knows this season 7 drama is driving me crazy...they are FINALLY together in a real relationship yet they couldn't be farther apart (BOTH OF THEM) so I say end the friggin thing and lets move on...

Wow never thought I'd say that and actually mean it! But if I can't get the beautiful Clana i want, and then they end it nicely...then I don't want it at all

Clark...put on the tights and the Big "S" on ur chest and lets get this show on the road!

you seem to speak, for many:lol:

ShelbyKent
01-31-2008, 01:47 AM
You can interpret it 2 ways:

-Lana was trying to tell Chloe that she should stop being territorial/possessive over clark because he's with Lana now

OR

-Chloe should stop babying Clark, and let him go his own way/ do his own thang without Chloe's say-so

I've yet to watch the eppie though so there could be another interpretation....

InLove_with_Chloe
01-31-2008, 02:57 AM
Chloe was trying to convince Lana that Clark wasn't himself. And Lana said "Chloe. Maybe it's time for you to let go of him a little."

:lol:
Sounds like true Lana nonsense.....
Writers.on.Crack.

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 06:48 AM
Lana was such a B - I - T - C - H in this epi.

"I think you need to let him go"

I kept thinking .

"I think you need to stop acting so naive"

jazel
01-31-2008, 07:18 AM
Lana insecure much ? lol

Jory
01-31-2008, 07:48 AM
I'm reminded of Chloe telling Clark (that if he wants to save her) then, "let me go" in "Cure."

JAZEL: This is the first time in a while, that I got the sense that Lana was insecure/jealous (take you're pick) of Chloe. From the clips I've seen, that's what I got. Lana also mentions (something like) "Chloe's not the only one good with computers." Lana came across very catty in these scenes, not to mention in an earlier episode she said , "It's just Chloe."

aqgalaxy
01-31-2008, 07:56 AM
This show made it proven that Lana is a jealous b!tch, Honestly that Let him go comment basically is one notch away from Lana saying to Chloe, "Clark's mine Chloe, so back off."

She was a b!tch in this episode, it was meant to look like that.

tmack09
01-31-2008, 08:01 AM
Lana also mentions (something like) "Chloe's not the only one good with computers." Lana came across very catty in these scenes,..
:lol: she was just pointing out that Chloe wasnt the only one good with computers....cause Chloe since day one has been known as the computer genius on that show! Actually though, right before Lana said that line and she was typing I DID actually think.."shes kinda taking over Chloe's sidekick job only though with Bizarro" lol...indeed "Bizarro World" huh!! lol


not to mention in an earlier episode she said , "It's just Chloe."

awww....this was just wrong, lmao...u completely turned this around! :rotfl: ...."It's just Chloe" wasnt meant to throw Chloe down in any way! "It's just Chloe" I saw it as..."shes our best friend, not some stranger im telling all our business to, this is a close friend (It's just Chloe)" haha...


This show made it proven that Lana is a jealous b!tch, Honestly that Let him go comment basically is one notch away from Lana saying to Chloe, "Clark's mine Chloe, so back off."

She was a b!tch in this episode, it was meant to look like that.

Any reason why she SHOULDNT say that?! Clark IS Lana's man right now is he not?! lol! She can tell Chloe to back off all she wants currently, lol....not saying that would be the right thing to do..but the girlfriend is entitled to say "yo, woman, Clark's my man now and you are a liiiiiiittle too clingy and yes i am "jealous" of ur relationship with him so back off!"

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 08:12 AM
This show made it proven that Lana is a jealous b!tch, Honestly that Let him go comment basically is one notch away from Lana saying to Chloe, "Clark's mine Chloe, so back off."

She was a b!tch in this episode, it was meant to look like that.


From what I saw, Lana had a reason to be jealous of Chloe. She knows that Chloe has known Clark better and for longer...and I'm sure that deep down, she knew that Chloe was right about this, but didn't want to believe it. Lana loved that Bizarro's entire world centered around Lana. Clark has other responsibilities and will never be able to give her all of himself.

I think this is actually nicely set up for Clark to have to make this choice consciously at some point.

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 09:00 AM
for Clark to have to make this choice.

here's hoping that it will actually be HIM that makes it

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 09:51 AM
And of course Chloe suggesting to Lana that she'll be the fall of Clark due to what she was doing to bring Lex down wasn't uncall for? Who's Chloe to assume such a thing?

Chloe has said worse things to Lana over the years. Chloe spent all season one throwing jabs at Lana and still Lana remind friendly with her.

Kalista
01-31-2008, 09:53 AM
And of course Chloe suggesting to Lana that she'll be the fall of Clark due to what she was doing to bring Lex down wasn't uncall for? Who's Chloe to assume such a thing?

Chloe has said worse things to Lana over the years. Chloe spent all season one throwing jabs at Lana and still Lana remind friendly with her.

Wow! I'm debating whether or not it would be worth my time to go and get countless verbatim quotes demonstrating Chloe's loyal treatment of Lana. Clark isn't the only one wearing Lana blinders.

tmack09
01-31-2008, 10:09 AM
Wow! I'm debating whether or not it would be worth my time to go and get countless verbatim quotes demonstrating Chloe's loyal treatment of Lana. Clark isn't the only one wearing Lana blinders.

True...to prove ur point! but im sure Kreukie could go find ones to prove her point too!! Chloe actually wasnt to fond of Lana in season 1 now that I think about it....

but BOTH have said things to each other that were uncalled for...cause i def thought Chloe needed to chillax when she said Lana would be the fall of Clark in that one previous episode...:lol:

harryandginnyfanatic
01-31-2008, 10:22 AM
I hate how chlana is on the show now.

Maybe tonight I'll go through some season 1 or 2 episodes just to revisit the good old days

samanta
01-31-2008, 10:24 AM
Am I bad person if I liked Lana in Persona even more than before? :D
I think Lana was just trying to stop Chloe from babysitting Clark and probably felt little jealous. Though Lana was little spiteful in this epi.

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And of course Chloe suggesting to Lana that she'll be the fall of Clark due to what she was doing to bring Lex down wasn't uncall for?
Well Lana could have killed or seriously injured Lois so I think Chloe had at least a little right to say it to Lana.
Seems like Chlana isn't doing so well this season :( I hope it will change soon.

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but the girlfriend is entitled to say "yo, woman, Clark's my man now and you are a liiiiiiittle too clingy and yes i am "jealous" of ur relationship with him so back off!" I guess it's little different when said woman is bestfriend of your boyfriend. Especially if Chloe and Clark are friends longer than Lana and Clark lovers.

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"Chloe's not the only one good with computers." Speaking of this when her new knowledge came from? I could buy Chloe newly gained powers over computers in s4 because she was always working with them but I think they are taking it little too far with Lana.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 11:07 AM
Well Lana could have killed or seriously injured Lois so I think Chloe had at least a little right to say it to Lana.

Lana injured Lois when she was under the influence of Clark's powers, she wasn't herself.

So that doesn't give Chloe the right to shut down Lana's back room and then implied that Lana would be the down fall of Clark due to it. That's like after Truth for Lana to go into the Torch and stop Chloe from using it due to how she acted under the influence of the truth drug. Who's Chloe to shut down Lana's room, honestly? If it wasn't for Lana's room she wouldn't had been able to help Clark find his cousin then in Persona to find brainiac.

I agree, it's awful how they write their friendship or lack of.

Kalista
01-31-2008, 11:13 AM
Lana injured Lois when she was under the influence of Clark's powers, she wasn't herself.

Lana can't slide on this one. She had Clark's power but she used them to act on her own inclinations. No Countess Thoreau or sorority vampire outs this time.

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[quote]Who's Chloe to shut down Lana's room, honestly? If it wasn't for Lana's room she wouldn't had been able to help Clark find his cousin then in Persona to find brainiac.


So Lana's motives for setting up the surveillance room are purely altruistic?

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 11:19 AM
Lana injured Lois when she was under the influence of Clark's powers, she wasn't herself.

Who's Chloe to shut down Lana's room, find


and when lana lost the powers and didn't apologise. whats the excuse for that?

who's lana to trick chloe .lock her in a whine sellar just so she can find out a secret thats none of her buisness

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 11:19 AM
Lana can't slide on this one. She had Clark's power but she used them to act on her own inclinations. No Countess Thoreau or sorority vampire outs this time.

From my understanding, regardless what Lana said/does she doesn't get the easy way out by most people here, regardless. :lol:

So of course. ;)

BadToad
01-31-2008, 11:21 AM
From my understanding, regardless what Lana said/does she doesn't get the easy way out by most people here, regardless.

But doesn't that go both ways? There are people that will never, ever hold Lana responsible for any of the things she does, or any of the decisions she's made.

Ilovebeinglost
01-31-2008, 11:21 AM
Chloe was just trying to tell Lana that Clark was not himself but Lana having had the best sex for a month with the bizz guy is what made her snap at Chloe. She enjoyed that month very much and didn't think anything of it when the bizz guy wanted to run out of Smallville.

What would have happened the the Isis foundation and all her work? Yes I tell you good sex can cloud anyone's mind.

jazel
01-31-2008, 11:22 AM
Wonder if Lana will say sorry to Chloe, for being way off, and out of line. lol

Ilovebeinglost
01-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Wonder if Lana will say sorry to Chloe, for being way off, and out of line. lol

I doubt it! :) She's not Clark that blames everything on himself

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 11:27 AM
What would have happened the the Isis foundation and all her work? Yes I tell you good sex can cloud anyone's mind.

And the farm and Kara who was still missing....what about all of that as well? Biz was acting nothing like Clark and Lana failed to pick up on it and assumed that Chloe's concern was not concern at all but about Chloe's feelings for Clark. She didn't even want to listen. Instead she told her that Clark's priorities had changed :confused: The only priority that Biz had was Lana and that's the way she seemed to like it.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 11:30 AM
But doesn't that go both ways? There are people that will never, ever hold Lana responsible for any of the things she does, or any of the decisions she's made.

I've came to understand that Lana's fandom is slit in two, there's those who love her then those who love to hate her. It surprises me really how some people who say they dislike Lana with a passion can still recall things about her from past episodes and seasons as quickly as most Lana fans can!

It's insane, we're in season 7 of this series and still Lana still gets people going...good or bad...she gets people going. Now that's fandom devotion. :D

Firebunny
01-31-2008, 11:32 AM
Wonder if Lana will say sorry to Chloe, for being way off, and out of line. lol Don't you remember Rosetta? Chloe will most likely be the one to appologize.

samanta
01-31-2008, 11:35 AM
Wonder if Lana will say sorry to Chloe, for being way off, and out of line. lol
I don't think she will. As far as I remember people only apologize to Lana and not the other way round.

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 11:38 AM
Well, I think that Lana was really enjoying her relationship with Clark, and I think she was pretty much just telling Chloe to butt out. Quite frankly, I don't think that she was wrong per se for doing so.

I think that's what I kind of like about this storyline. It's a little deeper that just plain right and wrong. What Lana wants from Clark is not something he's going to be able to give her, and this makes that very clear. Lana wasn't in love with Bizarro...she was in love with a Clark who was more open and who focused on his relationship with her instead of shouldering all the problems in the world. She wants him to devote his life to her and to have a lifelong adventure together. Quite frankly, what the heck is wrong with that? Isnt' that what a lot of people want?

But by the same token, Clark Kent isn't a lot of people. Clark's attention is divided...if Clark finds out Braniac is back, he's going to leave Lana and try to take down Brianiac. Simple as that. As much as Clark hasn't necessarily chosen his destiny yet, he also kind of already has. He's never going to sit by idly if there's something he can do. He's always going to try to help, even if he hasn't exactly been proactive about it yet.

So essentially, this whole thing just boils down to compatibility. They were more compatible/passionate when they were both kids and Clark didn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders. This episode just makes clear what was missing between them since they've moved in together.

At the very least, I like this reason for their ending a lot more than some fake baby. At least if they decide they want different things in life, they can still be friends.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 11:51 AM
Well, I think that Lana was really enjoying her relationship with Clark, and I think she was pretty much just telling Chloe to butt out. Quite frankly, I don't think that she was wrong per se for doing so.

I think that's what I kind of like about this storyline. It's a little deeper that just plain right and wrong. What Lana wants from Clark is not something he's going to be able to give her, and this makes that very clear. Lana wasn't in love with Bizarro...she was in love with a Clark who was more open and who focused on his relationship with her instead of shouldering all the problems in the world. She wants him to devote his life to her and to have a lifelong adventure together. Quite frankly, what the heck is wrong with that? Isnt' that what a lot of people want?

But by the same token, Clark Kent isn't a lot of people. Clark's attention is divided...if Clark finds out Braniac is back, he's going to leave Lana and try to take down Brianiac. Simple as that. As much as Clark hasn't necessarily chosen his destiny yet, he also kind of already has. He's never going to sit by idly if there's something he can do. He's always going to try to help, even if he hasn't exactly been proactive about it yet.

So essentially, this whole thing just boils down to compatibility. They were more compatible/passionate when they were both kids and Clark didn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders. This episode just makes clear what was missing between them since they've moved in together.

At the very least, I like this reason for their ending a lot more than some fake baby. At least if they decide they want different things in life, they can still be friends.

I agree and I disagree...

Lana wasn't looking for Clark to just be focusing on his relationship with her and nothing else, but to be more loving to her emotionally/psychically and to trust her more.

Because even Bizarro wasn't just focusing all his attention on her, in Gemini he was off doing his own thing (saving Chloe/Jimmy) and even in Persona he was looking for Branic. But unlike Clark, he was more loving emotionally/psychically, calling her endearing names, kissing, touching her, going to her for favors...ect. Doing things Clark normally holds back from.

BadToad
01-31-2008, 12:31 PM
Lana wasn't looking for Clark to just be focusing on his relationship with her and nothing else, but to be more loving to her emotionally/psychically and to trust her more.

Un-freaking-real! :rolleyes:

Who was the person keeping secrets this season? It wasn't Clark.

Trust Lana more? You mean, doing things like being the only person that he showed the blue crystal to, and telling her what that could mean? You mean trusting her like that? What has Clark NOT trusted Lana with this season? And its STILL not enough to satisfy her because Clark has the audacity to actually have other priorities that don't include devoting his life to kissing her butt. Lana was the person that didn't trust Clark this season, not the other way around. She still hasn't told him everything. But he needs to trust her more? In what world?


Because even Bizarro wasn't just focusing all his attention on her, in Gemini he was off doing his own thing (saving Chloe/Jimmy) and even in Persona he was looking for Branic.

And he was doing these things with Lana.


But unlike Clark, he was more loving emotionally/psychically, calling her endearing names, kissing, touching her, going to her for favors...ect. Doing things Clark normally holds back from.

Yes, all those things Lana is like with Clark...oh, wait a minute, No she's not!

If Clark being a reserved person, and having his own way of showing affection, is not good enough for Lana, then girlfriend should motor. Clark isn't, and wasn't, doing anything wrong here. He's the guy that arranged romantic picnics because Lana was being distant. Not the other way around. He's the guy who was trusting Lana completely, not the other way around. He was the one that forgave her even after finding out what she was hiding from him while living in his house, and after she verbally and physically attacked and basically insinuated he was worthless.

But yeah, poor Lana, she just wants more from Clark. :rolleyes:

Maybe Lana should figure out how to be whole and satisfied on her own.

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 12:33 PM
I agree and I disagree...

Lana wasn't looking for Clark to just be focusing on his relationship with her and nothing else, but to be more loving to her emotionally/psychically and to trust her more.

Because even Bizarro wasn't just focusing all his attention on her, in Gemini he was off doing his own thing (saving Chloe/Jimmy) and even in Persona he was looking for Branic. But unlike Clark, he was more loving emotionally/psychically, calling her endearing names, kissing, touching her, going to her for favors...ect. Doing things Clark normally holds back from.

Yes, he was just a more open person. Quite frankly, this Clark Kent is a pretty repressed, uptight guy. But he's only that way because he cares so much about everyone (Lana's own words, actually). He doesn't want to sleep with Lana because he doens't want to kill her. He tries to shield her from things so she doesn't get hurt. But let's face it...Lana's main focus in life has not been to save the world. She wants what many people want, so I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but she doesn't have any interest in sacrificing her life to save the world.

I don't think Bizarro looking for Braniac counts. I doubt that was going to end up with Bizarro saving the world from Brainiac. Now, I haven't seen that part of the show yet, so I could be wrong. But if Bizarro was really planning to save the world, then why would they need to destroy him?

But all in all, I can see what Lana saw in Bizarro (except for the fact that he completely duped her, lied to her and pretended to be someone he wasn't), but it was really just what she wanted from Clark. So I don't think she's a completely horrible person, even if she did turn a blind eye. The problem is, that that's not who Clark is...and Chloe knows it and accepts him for who he is, and is never anything but supportive of him and tries to help him realize his own potential. I can't help but think that this episode just highlighted how different those two are in terms of support to and influence on Clark.

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Trust Lana more? You mean, doing things like being the only person that he showed the blue crystal to, and telling her what that could mean? You mean trusting her like that? What has Clark NOT trusted Lana with this season? And its STILL not enough to satisfy her because Clark has the audacity to actually have other priorities that don't include devoting his life to kissing her butt. Lana was the person that didn't trust Clark this season, not the other way around. She still hasn't told him everything. But he needs to trust her more? In what world?.

That's pretty hard to argue with, IMO.

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 12:42 PM
Lana wasn't looking for Clark to just be focusing on his relationship with her and nothing else, but to be more loving to her emotionally/psychically and to trust her more.

How much more can Clark trust her? What more is there left? What exactly hasn't he told her? No, It's already been established that it it is Lana who has been acting distant this season, not Clark and she still isn't happy.

Two key lines for me:

"He's taking some time to focus on his own happiness" Which means Lana.

"His priorities are different" Which means Lana.

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 12:46 PM
^^ Not to mention:
Bizarro: "You know he'll never devote his life to you the way I will."
Lana: "He's right Clark"

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 01:08 PM
Un-freaking-real! :rolleyes:

Who was the person keeping secrets this season? It wasn't Clark.

Trust Lana more? You mean, doing things like being the only person that he showed the blue crystal to, and telling her what that could mean? You mean trusting her like that? What has Clark NOT trusted Lana with this season? And its STILL not enough to satisfy her because Clark has the audacity to actually have other priorities that don't include devoting his life to kissing her butt. Lana was the person that didn't trust Clark this season, not the other way around. She still hasn't told him everything. But he needs to trust her more? In what world?

Seasons of Lana not being completely honest with Clark is about 1.5 seasons, Clark to Lana about 6. Who's the winner there? Lana of course! :lol:

Seriously though, that's not what I meant, I meant trust as when it comes to working together! Clark barely, if ever goes to Lana and asks her for help when it comes reseach, in these past two episodes Bizarro went to Lana each time for information, something Clark always goes with Chloe.

I'm sure Lana felt honored that he trusted her in that department. That's what I meant in her trusting her more... nothing more and nothing less.


If Clark being a reserved person, and having his own way of showing affection, is not good enough for Lana, then girlfriend should motor. Clark isn't, and wasn't, doing anything wrong here. He's the guy that arranged romantic picnics because Lana was being distant. Not the other way around. He's the guy who was trusting Lana completely, not the other way around. He was the one that forgave her even after finding out what she was hiding from him while living in his house, and after she verbally and physically attacked and basically insinuated he was worthless.

But yeah, poor Lana, she just wants more from Clark. :rolleyes:

Maybe Lana should figure out how to be whole and satisfied on her own.

What's wrong with someone being happy that the person they love is being more emotionally/psychically loving to them?:confused:

I'm so confused as to what exactly you're so upset over?

Lana wasn't unhappy with Clark before Bizarro came into the picture. Bizarro just gave her a lot emotions and psychical feelings that any human in love wants from their lover, something Clark has been lacking due to his own personal issues, that Lana assumed he over came, hence why he was acting the way he was.

Are you going to seriously dump on Lana for a normal human emotion/want? :confused:

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 01:14 PM
I meant trust as when it comes to working together! Clark barely, if ever goes to Lana and asks her for favors

so clark should right a list of chorse and then lana will know he's not a phantom

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 01:17 PM
Seasons of Lana not being completely honest with Clark is about 1.5 seasons, Clark to Lana about 6. Who's the winner there? Lana of course! :lol:


Well, considering what they were being secretive about, I don't think Lana wins. I like Lana and all, but Clark's secret was not hurting anybody, other than the fact that Lana didn't want him to have a secret from her at all. Lana's secrets have been pretty destructive.

Atomic girl
01-31-2008, 01:20 PM
I haven't seen the epy, but.....Seems to me that Lana should have at least given Chloe the benefit of the doubt and talked to Chloe about her concerns rather than completely dismiss them as false. Sometimes our worst enemies have something to teach us, and Chloe is not even a enemy.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 01:29 PM
Well, considering what they were being secretive about, I don't think Lana wins. I like Lana and all, but Clark's secret was not hurting anybody, other than the fact that Lana didn't want him to have a secret from her at all. Lana's secrets have been pretty destructive.

Clark secret didn't hurt anyone? Tell that to Papa Kent, he wouldn't had died if he didn't get into that fight trying to protect Clark's secret from Lionel...who ended up finding out regardless and befriending Clark and Martha! If Papa Kent only knew how pointless that fight really was... :lol:

Who got hurt due to Lana's secret and what secret are we talking about?

Emotionally I would say everyone got hurt, but emotionally everyone has gottan hurt due to Clark's secret as well....Chloe, Pete, Lana, Lex... in the future Lois.

Now psychically, Lionel is the only one. Good thing Lana didn't die from a heart attack because of that! :eek:

myankskent
01-31-2008, 01:31 PM
Yes, he was just a more open person. Quite frankly, this Clark Kent is a pretty repressed, uptight guy. But he's only that way because he cares so much about everyone (Lana's own words, actually). He doesn't want to sleep with Lana because he doens't want to kill her. He tries to shield her from things so she doesn't get hurt.


I agree with what you said here. This is a complicated issue. First of all, I don't think that Lana blames Clark for not wanting to be close with her, whether it be physically or emotionally, after what transpired in "Wrath". I just think that Lana enjoyed the fact that Bizarro let her off the hook for the things that she did and they were able to get past it. Clark, IMO, has not done so yet and I don't blame him for that, nor do I think that Clark has been particularly cold with Lana. Let's face it, he could've kicked her right out of his house, but he didn't. Also, Lana set the table for the "distance" that was put between her and Clark because she lied to him about what she was really doing after she returned to Smallville so if there is anyone to blame for the distance, Lana is that person, IMO.

I don't know what direction Clana is going to move in after "Persona", but if they are going to stay together, they need to start working through their issues. We saw some of that in "Blue" but then the whole Bizarro situation complicated matters even more. The only other thing that I will say is that I think that Lana and Clark should have taken a break at the end of "Persona" rather than sleep in the same bed. That was a little ridiculous, especially after all that happened. I don't expect them to breakup, but I also can't understand how they can go to bed together that quickly after the **** hit the fan. But then again, these are the Smallville writers that we are talking about, nothing ever makes sense with them, IMO.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 01:34 PM
I haven't seen the epy, but.....Seems to me that Lana should have at least given Chloe the benefit of the doubt and talked to Chloe about her concerns rather than completely dismiss them as false. Sometimes our worst enemies have something to teach us, and Chloe is not even a enemy.

Chloe reasons why Clark wasn't Clark was because he misplaced something that he should had knew where it was... If Lana quickly trusted what Chloe was saying, what would that say about Lana's trust in her boyfriend? :confused:

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 01:47 PM
Clark secret didn't hurt anyone? Tell that to Papa Kent

If Lana hadn't left the party the first time in Reckoning, she wouldn't have died. If she didn't die in the first timeline then jonathan wouldn't have died in the second timeline. And are you seriously suggesting that Clark should announce his secret to the world? Jonathan had EVERY right not to trust Lionel.


Emotionally I would say everyone got hurt, but emotionally everyone has gottan hurt due to Clark's secret as well....Chloe, Pete, Lana, Lex... in the future Lois.

Maybe so but Clark's secret was to protect himself and if he didn't want someone to know then he has every right to keep it from them.

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 01:48 PM
Clark secret didn't hurt anyone? Tell that to Papa Kent, he wouldn't had died if he didn't get into that fight trying to protect Clark's secret from Lionel...who ended up finding out regardless and befriending Clark and Martha! If Papa Kent only knew how pointless that fight really was... :lol:

Who got hurt due to Lana's secret and what secret are we talking about?

Emotionally I would say everyone got hurt, but emotionally everyone has gottan hurt due to Clark's secret as well....Chloe, Pete, Lana, Lex... in the future Lois.

Now psychically, Lionel is the only one. Good thing Lana didn't die from a heart attack because of that! :eek:


We're talking about Clark's secrets to Lana, not anything else. And no, it didn't hurt anything except possibly her feelings sometimes. Clark kept a secret that was his to share, to whoever he chose. It was about something personal, his heritage, and he didn't owe it to Lana to tell her. Lana's secrets are about kidnapping and spying on people, are meant to cover up her own misdeeds. There is a major difference.

And just because Lionel isn't sporting a halo doesn't mean that what Lana did is OK.

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I agree with what you said here. This is a complicated issue. First of all, I don't think that Lana blames Clark for not wanting to be close with her, whether it be physically or emotionally, after what transpired in "Wrath". I just think that Lana enjoyed the fact that Bizarro let her off the hook for the things that she did and they were able to get past it. Clark, IMO, has not done so yet and I don't blame him for that, nor do I think that Clark has been particularly cold with Lana. Let's face it, he could've kicked her right out of his house, but he didn't. Also, Lana set the table for the "distance" that was put between her and Clark because she lied to him about what she was really doing after she returned to Smallville so if there is anyone to blame for the distance, Lana is that person, IMO.

That's a good point. I forgot that Clark wasn't totally over the last issue in their relationship yet. :) He sort of forgave her, but she was still in a place where she was teetering on the edge of darkness. I wonder if Bizarro's acceptance of her will have any affect on that struggle.

I agree, this is a complicated issue. That's why I like it. There are a lot of layers and reasons and history and it's cool because whether right or wrong I can understand why people are feeling/acting the way they are about things. All of them.

I'm also interested to see what Chloe and Lana's relationship is like after this. Their interactions seem to be more and more intense.

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 02:12 PM
If Lana hadn't left the party the first time in Reckoning, she wouldn't have died. If she didn't die in the first timeline then jonathan wouldn't have died in the second timeline.

Of COURSE it's Lana fault Papa Kent died...my bad. How silly of me to forget that! :lol:

Papa Kent heart problems which he got from saving Clark from herself had NOTHING to do with it!


And are you seriously suggesting that Clark should announce his secret to the world? Jonathan had EVERY right not to trust Lionel.

I never once said or implied that Clark should announce his secret to the world... but to say Clark's secret has never hurt anyone isn't true by any means, it has hurt people.


We're talking about Clark's secrets to Lana, not anything else. And no, it didn't hurt anything except possibly her feelings sometimes. Clark kept a secret that was his to share, to whoever he chose. It was about something personal, his heritage, and he didn't owe it to Lana to tell her. Lana's secrets are about kidnapping and spying on people, are meant to cover up her own misdeeds. There is a major difference.

And just because Lionel isn't sporting a halo doesn't mean that what Lana did is OK.

So wait, wait...if we're talking about Clark's secret to Lana and no one else, that means we're talking about Lana's secret in regards to Clark and no one else...correct? In that regards, Lana's secret did nothing else to Clark besides hurt him emotionally...likewise what Clark's secret has done to Lana over the years... not year, years.

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 02:20 PM
[QUOTE=Dustmite;3568132]
I never once said or implied that Clark should announce his secret to the world... but to say Clark's secret has never hurt anyone isn't true by any means, it has hurt people.

Hurt their feelings. Not people. And with Papa Kent, he knew the "secret," so there was no secret.

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So wait, wait...if we're talking about Clark's secret to Lana and no one else, that means we're talking about Lana's secret in regards to Clark and no one else...correct? In that regards, Lana's secret did nothing else to Clark besides hurt him emotionally...likewise what Clark's secret has done to Lana over the years... not year, years.

I think you may have misunderstood me. We are comparing the secrets that Clark kept from Lana and, yes, that Lana kept from Clark. Clark was secretly saving people. Lana was secretly hurting people. You really don't see the difference?

BadToad
01-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Seasons of Lana not being completely honest with Clark is about 1.5 seasons, Clark to Lana about 6. Who's the winner there? Lana of course!

Really, what has that to do with this situation? Yes, Clark didn't trust her in the past. But he does now (or did, hopefull he won't anymore). Right Now on the show Clark isn't the one withholding trust, Lana is. Thats the reality on the show right now. So, Lana whining that she wants Clark to trust her more is just ridiculous. What it means to me is that Clark is offering the best he's able, and its still not enough for Lana. And thats her problem, not his.


Seriously though, that's not what I meant, I meant trust as when it comes to working together!

Maybe thats because until this season, Lana never showed any significant investigative skills, or been a master hacker :rolleyes: And because Clark and Chloe have been working together a long time. Why is it exactly that Lana needs to be the center of every part of Clark's universe? Its not enough for him to give her his love, and share his home, but he has to do Every Single Thing with her as well? Couples can also have seperate interests, and outside friendships. If Lana is going to be with Clark, and be happy with Clark, she better learn to share his time and focus.


What's wrong with someone being happy that the person they love is being more emotionally/psychically loving to them?

Well, when its NOT the person you supposedly love, and isn't even acting like the person you supposedly love, then the sudden change in behavior should probably have raised some red flags. Especially in Smallville, where personality switches and body snatching actually happens with some regularity.


I'm so confused as to what exactly you're so upset over?

Oh, the usual...nothing is Lana's fault, she's the best girlfriend/person/saint in the world, Clark is the big bad boyfriend who is not doing enough to make her happy, etc. That sort of things gets me upset, especially when its clearly NOT what we've seen on the show this season.


Are you going to seriously dump on Lana for a normal human emotion/want?

Are you seriously going to suggest that maybe some of the problems in the current Clana relationship might not be due to Lana keeping secrets from Clark, and lying to him constantly even after they supposedly were being honest with each other (he was, she wasn't)? And then her getting his powers and doing some truly heinous things might have put a further strain on things? Are you seriously going to dump the troubles in the Clana romance at Clark's door when we see him planning picnics, and reassuring Lana even after finding out what she did? Does she have no responsibility here?

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 02:28 PM
Hurt their feelings. Not people. And with Papa Kent, he knew the "secret," so there was no secret.

So Lana's secret didn't hurt anyone either...because a shovel isn't a secret. The shovel hit Lionel, not Lana's secret. :rotfl:

All the times someone got kidnapped/hurt due to someone trying to uncover Clark's secret isn't someone getting in harms way due to Clark's secret?

Too many double standards...if Lionel getting kidnapped and getting a shovel to the head is someone getting hurt due to Lana's secret, wouldn't Papa Kent dying from protecting Clark's secret be considered someone getting hurt/dying due to Clark's secret regardless if the person knew it already?


I think you may have misunderstood me. We are comparing the secrets that Clark kept from Lana and, yes, that Lana kept from Clark. Clark was secretly saving people. Lana was secretly hurting people. You really don't see the difference?

The only people Lana was hurting was the Luthor's...big whoop in my book. Let's all feel sorry for the villains of the story. Outside from that, she used the money she got from the Luthors to help others eg: ISIS.

So Lana was secretly bringing down two villains and helping people in the process... yeah, what a $%$#@! :D

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 02:38 PM
[QUOTE=Kreukie;3568245]Clark was secretly saving people. Lana was secretly hurting people. You really don't see the difference?

I don't think that matters to some people. Clark hurting Lana in the past is all that seems to matter. And facts such as Lana lying to Clark's face whilst living in his home and pretending to be completely honest, whilst secretly being underhand and devious don't matter.


Why is it exactly that Lana needs to be the center of every part of Clark's universe?

I'd like to know that too.

Kalista
01-31-2008, 02:38 PM
Kreukie, has Lana ever done anything unacceptable in your eyes? Just curious.

Atomic girl
01-31-2008, 02:49 PM
Chloe reasons why Clark wasn't Clark was because he misplaced something that he should had knew where it was... If Lana quickly trusted what Chloe was saying, what would that say about Lana's trust in her boyfriend? :confused:I'm not saying Lana should have immediately trusted Chloe's deduction, but a healthy dialogue about it might have been in order. Clark doesn't tend to misplace things when it has that much importance. If someone is saying something painful for us to hear, that doesn't make it wrong.

Since Clark has had this type of thing happen before (altered personality), I thought Lana would at least consider it, considering the source. It isn't disloyal to consider that someone may need help or is going through something difficult. Chloe wasn't asking Lana to do him harm, just sharing an observation and asking tough questions. I'm sure Chloe didn't like what she was implying either....JMHO

hanna1804
01-31-2008, 02:52 PM
Just something to all of you who can't get enough of Clana VS Chlark or anything else : This is JUST A SHOW !! Just FICTIONAL characters, so STOP defending them like they were real or your real-life friends or family !! It's just ridiculous ! And it's a Chlark fan who's talking to you. By the way, stop arguing about all the nonsense that is going on the show, because we can't do anything about that (unfortunately), the writers do whatever they want :( LOL.

And to finish : Chloe's THE BEST !!!!!!! :lol:

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 02:59 PM
Kreukie, I must say, you are fiercely loyal. And almost as blind to Lana's faults as Clark himself. As for myself, I just cannot justify Lana's actions, I'm sorry. Regardless of whether Clark ever lied to Lana about being an alien. What has Lionel done, that at this point, that Lana has not? She has stolen, kidnapped, tortured, framed people, masterminded elaborate schemes, manipulated and lied. But her hands are clean because Clark lied to her first? I just don't follow the logic, that's all.

Lana herself has acknowledged that she was slipping into darkness. If she says it, do you believe it? :)

Anyway, I am intrigued by the storyline, and even though yes, Clana angst has returned, it somehow seems preferable to the flatline they had going on for the last few months. :) At least to me!

aqgalaxy
01-31-2008, 03:22 PM
Just something to all of you who can't get enough of Clana VS Chlark or anything else : This is JUST A SHOW !! Just FICTIONAL characters, so STOP defending them like they were real or your real-life friends or family !! It's just ridiculous ! And it's a Chlark fan that's talking to you. By the way, stop arguing about all the nonsense that is going on the show, because we can't do anything about that (unfortunately), the writers do whatever they want :( LOL.

And to finish : CHLOE'S THE BEST !!!!!!! :lol:


*protects Hanna* Don't mind her she's just French...

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 03:25 PM
Just something to all of you who can't get enough of Clana VS Chlark or anything else : This is JUST A SHOW !! Just FICTIONAL characters, so STOP defending them like they were real or your real-life friends or family !![/COLOR] :lol:

It isn't real? :(

hanna1804
01-31-2008, 03:25 PM
*protects Hanna* Don't mind her she's just French...

:) What does that exactly mean Amber ?

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 03:27 PM
Kreukie, has Lana ever done anything unacceptable in your eyes? Just curious.

Does it really matter? I mean, really?

I should be asking you guys as there ever been a time you just completely disregard something Lana did in an episode and just forces on supporting the aspect of the episode you enjoyed?


But her hands are clean because Clark lied to her first? I just don't follow the logic, that's all.

I honestly don't believe what Lana did was awful... everything she did was to bring down two villains. Two people who aren't innocent by any means and have done way worse things then she even got close to doing. She also opened ISIS, which is a service to help people. How's that so awful, she didn't harm any innocent people. I repeat, she didn't harm any innocent people.

All the things you're accusing her of doing, she did mainly to, two villains! VILLAINS, as in the bad guys!

Also I wasn't the one that brought up Lana's secret to Clark's secret in this thread anyway...

Lana isn't the villain of the story, yet it surprises each time how people continue to treat her that way. It's been like that since season one, way before Lana kidnapping anyone, anyway... so should I be surprise...? No, I guess not :lol:

hanna1804
01-31-2008, 03:27 PM
It isn't real? :(

No, I'm sorry ! :lol: By the way your stories are really good ! Write more please :)

aqgalaxy
01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
:) What does that exactly mean Amber ?
Just don't want people to attack my friend for saying like it is :)

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No, I'm sorry ! :lol: By the way your stories are really good ! Write more please :)
Speaking of stories.. uhemm ;) Yeah i need to post updates for mine too :rotfl:

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 03:40 PM
I should be asking you guys as there ever been a time you just completely disregard something Lana did in an episode and just forces on supporting the aspect of the episode you enjoyed?

Yes :) Shirtless TW is one example, a Chlark hug is another.


By the way your stories are really good ! Write more please

Thank you :) And I am writing more, really I am but I've been so so busy lately.

hanna1804
01-31-2008, 03:41 PM
Just don't want people to attack my friend for saying like it is :)

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Speaking of stories.. uhemm ;) Yeah i need to post updates for mine too :rotfl:

Yeah me too :) I really need to finish my story especially since it's almost done. I mean the ending chapter was the very first thing I wrote, so now I need to update maybe a couple of parts and then the ending one. I just don't seem to find the inspiration like I do with my Chlark videos :lol: But stop with this, it's not the good place to talk about it, LOL !

BadToad
01-31-2008, 03:42 PM
I repeat, she didn't harm any innocent people.

She didn't kick Lois in the face, and send her crashing through a glass door and send her to the hospital? I must've dreamed that part.

tmack09
01-31-2008, 03:50 PM
Just something to all of you who can't get enough of Clana VS Chlark or anything else : This is JUST A SHOW !! Just FICTIONAL characters, so STOP defending them like they were real or your real-life friends or family !! It's just ridiculous ! And it's a Chlark fan who's talking to you. By the way, stop arguing about all the nonsense that is going on the show, because we can't do anything about that (unfortunately), the writers do whatever they want :( LOL.

And to finish : Chloe's THE BEST !!!!!!! :lol:

:rotfl: too funny!! and no no boo boo Lana is the best!! :lol: despite everything people are constantly talking about her good and bad just like Kreukie said...I personally love me some Lana because A LOT on here seem to dislike her AND shes just a kick butt character...whether shes holding folks hostage, getting powers and going on a vendetta, knocking Lois through glass doors, telling Chloe to basically "back the heck up", confusing her lovers, or just being her sweet self...she has soo many levels that I simply adore...and while I may defend a lot of her actions...I also have a tendency to call her out on some...as I do with all the other friggin characters!

Oh hanna1804 you wanna know something in response to ur comment lol...you may have to repost what you said again because this is just the Canadian threads...folks in the U.S see it tonight...so this convo is unfortunatly going to start allllll over again lol :lol:

Kreukie
01-31-2008, 03:56 PM
She didn't kick Lois in the face, and send her crashing through a glass door and send her to the hospital? I must've dreamed that part.

She was under influence of Clark's power! Why do people continue to forget that? :lol:

Throughout the whole episode they made it a point to show and tell the viewers that Clark's powers made Lana act out of character. We had Chloe herself use the Seth Summer example, good kid gone bad due to Clark's power then we had this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uatct3fX4-U

Lana even surprised herself with the way she acted out... the more she was under the influence, the worse she got with her rage.

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:rotfl: too funny!! and no no boo boo Lana is the best!! :lol: despite everything people are constantly talking about her good and bad just like Kreukie said...

Yeah! Lana is the most popular character on the series! :rotfl:

hanna1804
01-31-2008, 04:17 PM
Oh hanna1804 you wanna know something in response to ur comment lol...you may have to repost what you said again because this is just the Canadian threads...folks in the U.S see it tonight...so this convo is unfortunatly going to start allllll over again lol :lol:


:lol: yeah I know ! Unfortunately, my comment won't change anything, lol. I'll probably post it on the US thread, you're right. Even if Chloe's my favorite character since the beginning, I won't say that I hate Lana, because I actually think she became really interesting since that storyline with Lex in season 6. She's darker and just make her character more interesting than she was in the 5 first & long seasons :lol:

BadToad
01-31-2008, 04:33 PM
She was under influence of Clark's power! Why do people continue to forget that?

I don't forget it. I just don't buy it as an excuse. There's a difference.

tariksam
01-31-2008, 04:40 PM
WOW!!! Clark' powers are a really powerful drug....makes you you do thing you wouldn't do....:rolleyes:

I don't buy for a second Clark powers have an "effect" on people...you just have power it doens't change the way you are....another lame excuse to justify Lana.

tmack09
01-31-2008, 05:13 PM
WOW!!! Clark' powers are a really powerful drug....makes you you do thing you wouldn't do....:rolleyes:

I don't buy for a second Clark powers have an "effect" on people...you just have power it doens't change the way you are....another lame excuse to justify Lana.

I don't think the powers made her do things! however I do believe that if she didn't have the powers things wouldn't have gotten as far as they did! So in a lot of ways, I do blame the powers for a lot of the things that happened! Had she had done the EXACT same thing, minus the powers the damage wouldn't have been as great

I kinda wished it would have gone further I thought for sure she was going to set Lex ablaze with her heat vision but aww well!! I guess I had to settle with her tossing him around like a ragdoll! :p

Lana: "If I loose anymore patience Lex, you won't be around to see it"
--such a kicka$$ line from a vengeful Lana...gotta love it!! :p

SmallvilleMan
01-31-2008, 06:28 PM
Well, first of all........Chloe's the one who decided she was going to try to draw a battle line between her and Lana with her little speech oh how she was going to stop Lana from "bringing down" Clark. She's also the one who told Clark repeatedly to let Lana go in the past.

As for what Lana did with Clark's powers, it's just as excusable as what Chloe did when she had the truth serom. Anyone remember she was going to go to the Kents to get Clark's secret out of them? Of course not..........

DarkseidNow
01-31-2008, 06:55 PM
One thing I have noticed about Lana throughout the series is that whenever a friend tries to give fair warning about the odd behavior of whoever's her boyfriend at the moment (Clark, Jason, Lex), she always cuts down their warning. And then, of course, the friend proves to be correct and she's running for her life calling them for help!

It would be nice to see her learn her lesson. Especially given all the times Clark has been on Red K and acted oddly.

SmallvilleMan
01-31-2008, 06:56 PM
Except Clark wasn't acting weird at all to her, was he? No........

DarkseidNow
01-31-2008, 07:00 PM
Well, first of all........Chloe's the one who decided she was going to try to draw a battle line between her and Lana with her little speech oh how she was going to stop Lana from "bringing down" Clark. She's also the one who told Clark repeatedly to let Lana go in the past.

As for what Lana did with Clark's powers, it's just as excusable as what Chloe did when she had the truth serom. Anyone remember she was going to go to the Kents to get Clark's secret out of them? Of course not..........

Here is the difference. Lana was in full possession of her senses when she received Clark's powers, just like Eric Summers when he got Clark's powers. She was going to kill Lex and basically blamed Clark for not doing this.

One could argue that Chloe was under the influence of the serum she got or just acting out subconscious desires but who knows.


Also, the reason why Chloe drew the battle line is because she knows how blinded Clark becomes with Lana. Plus, Lana physically attacked her cousin! And her recent flirtation with the dark side could get Clark outed or even killed.

Dustmite
01-31-2008, 07:06 PM
Anyone remember she was going to go to the Kents to get Clark's secret out of them? Of course not..........

And of course the times she has been a Clana cheerleader are conveniently forgotten.


Except Clark wasn't acting weird at all to her, was he? No........

Yes, he was. He was being weird full stop but she didn't recognize it.

sabi908
01-31-2008, 08:24 PM
Why do people get so overworked about shippers such as Clana and Chlark...


we all know who he ends up with ultimately...LOIS :)

AndiGirl
01-31-2008, 08:32 PM
Lana is so threatend by Chloe..it's not even funny. It was very obvious in this episode...Chloe cant even come to her and warn her that Clark isnt acting like himself without Lana telling her she's too close to Clark. Saying "maybe you dont know him as well as you think you do" was such a typical Lana line. All she wanted to do was hurt Chloe...she didnt even care that Chloe made a legitiment argument.

sabi908
01-31-2008, 08:35 PM
I think it has to do with the fact that both Clana and Chlark are in the present. And Clois doesn't come until later.
Smallville is technically the past (and is supposed to be telling the story of how Clark became Superman) since presently Superman already exists.

Mrs.Bizzaro
01-31-2008, 08:39 PM
I don't think it really mattered that it was Chloe telling Lana that Clark wasn't himself... I think Lana would have acted like that no matter who was the messenger. Really, it could have been Martha that was telling Lana clark wasn't himself and she would have acted the same way. Lana didn't want her "perfect" relationship to be tainted by anything. She wanted that thing with Bizarro to be as real as real can be and to find out that it might not be real at all made her defend it. Lana wants to be happy and she has this thought of a life in her head she wants to live out. She's gonna protect that like a female pitbull protects her pups.

RedKalEL
01-31-2008, 08:45 PM
everything lana says or does is uncalled for!

agreed! when lana said that i used one of her favorite lines "WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?"

WickedJenn
01-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Lana is so threatend by Chloe..it's not even funny. It was very obvious in this episode...Chloe cant even come to her and warn her that Clark isnt acting like himself without Lana telling her she's too close to Clark. Saying "maybe you dont know him as well as you think you do" was such a typical Lana line. All she wanted to do was hurt Chloe...she didnt even care that Chloe made a legitiment argument.

She definitely is. She's ALWAYS known that Clark's been more comfortable talking to Chloe.
I think with Bizarro she thought SHE had the upper hand this time, when she said that to Chloe.

When she said that line you quoted, I snickered big time. Sure Lana, Chloe's only been his best friend since what, age 8? Has known his secret for two years? Even when she didn't know Clark's secret, Chloe's always, IMO, known him better than Lana ever did.

minerva73
01-31-2008, 08:52 PM
I don't think it really mattered that it was Chloe telling Lana that Clark wasn't himself... I think Lana would have acted like that no matter who was the messenger. Really, it could have been Martha that was telling Lana clark wasn't himself and she would have acted the same way. Lana didn't want her "perfect" relationship to be tainted by anything. She wanted that thing with Bizarro to be as real as real can be and to find out that it might not be real at all made her defend it. Lana wants to be happy and she has this thought of a life in her head she wants to live out. She's gonna protect that like a female pitbull protects her pups.


Exactly, it proves it all. Until the real Clark came, Lana would have brushed off every piece of evidence. And still she has doubts about it. I hope that there's some Clana interaction in "Siren". I'm getting impatient. :p

AndiGirl
01-31-2008, 08:54 PM
She definitely is. She's ALWAYS known that Clark's been more comfortable talking to Chloe.
I think with Bizarro she thought SHE had the upper hand this time, when she said that to Chloe.

When she said that line you quoted, I snickered big time. Sure Lana, Chloe's only been his best friend since what, age 8? Has known his secret for two years? Even when she didn't know Clark's secret, Chloe's always, IMO, known him better than Lana ever did.

Thats a good point. When she had Bizzaro, she had the upperhand, and knew him better then Chloe. So maybe Lana didnt want to believe it wasnt Clark because it was a blow to her ego. I laughed too...she needed to look in the mirror not at Chloe when she was making those comments.

SpiritedDiva
01-31-2008, 08:55 PM
Myself, I can't understand why people argue about who's a bigger witch-Lana, Chloe, or Lois. I think the characters are all very human, and that's what draw us in. Lana, a person who has become a very dark character the past couple of seasons, yet retains a very intriguing depth. I don't think I could have said this about her in the earlier seasons.
Though I do prefer the Clana friendship in the earlier seasons.

Anyway, Chloe is a very loyal person, with a passion for life and the words that she describes it with. But, she is also nosy, a know it all, and is a coward when it comes to her true feelings. Yet, she is my favorite character, and I think she has shown a lot of growth the past several seasons.


Clark, well he can be the most indecisive, wishy washy, emotionally wimpy person I have ever seen. Yet, he has a very honorable heroic, side to him, that makes us like him, despite his failings. The same goes for all.

Well, after that long tanchent, what I am trying to say, is, these characters have flaws, but thats what makes the show entertaining. Instead of analyzing each conversation between the girls, we should just take it for what it is. Just an intriguing character evolvement, within an entertaining show.:)

svtwamedfan05
01-31-2008, 08:56 PM
That was a little uncalled for.

I totally agree. Very uncalled for.

WickedJenn
01-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Thats a good point. When she had Bizzaro, she had the upperhand, and knew him better then Chloe. So maybe Lana didnt want to believe it wasnt Clark because it was a blow to her ego. I laughed too...she needed to look in the mirror not at Chloe when she was making those comments.

I totally agree with you, I also thought that Lana just didn't want to be wrong.j

I wanted to add as a side note--

wasn't it interesting when Dax said he knew right away that he would give up his powers for his wife? Clark looked down at the ground, he knew that definitely wasn't the case for he and Lana.

you're my person
01-31-2008, 09:01 PM
But yeah, poor Lana, she just wants more from Clark. :rolleyes:

Maybe Lana should figure out how to be whole and satisfied on her own.

My thoughts exactly. In the end I wish she'd just left with Bizarro, went to Paris and stayed there. She was my favorite character but now the way she's written she's like a psycho cockroach that just wont flush.

Lostfan588
01-31-2008, 09:22 PM
Considering the context of the conversation....why the heck did Lana need to say something like that? Just like why was Lana all like telling Clark she could be just like Chloe with her computer skills? I mean if I were her, Chlark have been friends for so many years why wouldn't she expect Chloe to just be concerned about her friend? She seemed a bit jealous imo....and way too possesive and self absorbed, Bizarro wasn't acting like Clark around her at all.... so much for true love...jeesh

TENCHU V
02-01-2008, 05:58 AM
Put Chloe & Lana in a ring, add jello, sit back, enjoy.:cool:

Whoever wins gets Clarke and I can be the runners up prize. :D

SteveS
02-01-2008, 07:03 AM
This show made it proven that Lana is a jealous b!tch, Honestly that Let him go comment basically is one notch away from Lana saying to Chloe, "Clark's mine Chloe, so back off."

She was a b!tch in this episode, it was meant to look like that.

The one that should be let go was the one missing in action, Grant's true love. Then bring back the hottie, Kara, she has potential.

Chloe and ClarkMan, the best couple on Smallville. Still, after all these years.

savingpeoplething
02-01-2008, 07:08 AM
Chloe's only been his best friend since what, age 8?

Technically, I think Clark met Chloe in 8th grade.
Chloe was still living in Metropolis at age 8 ("Progeny").


That was a little uncalled for.

I thought it was a little funny, myself, considering Lana is the one Clark will eventually leave behind and has been the reason Clark has been avoiding his destiny. If anyone is "hanging" onto Clark, it's Lana. Chloe's always been the one to let him go for what is best for him.

do3mire
02-01-2008, 07:15 AM
Myself, I can't understand why people argue about who's a bigger witch-Lana, Chloe, or Lois. I think the characters are all very human, and that's what draw us in. Lana, a person who has become a very dark character the past couple of seasons, yet retains a very intriguing depth. I don't think I could have said this about her in the earlier seasons.
Though I do prefer the Clana friendship in the earlier seasons.

Anyway, Chloe is a very loyal person, with a passion for life and the words that she describes it with. But, she is also nosy, a know it all, and is a coward when it comes to her true feelings. Yet, she is my favorite character, and I think she has shown a lot of growth the past several seasons.


Clark, well he can be the most indecisive, wishy washy, emotionally wimpy person I have ever seen. Yet, he has a very honorable heroic, side to him, that makes us like him, despite his failings. The same goes for all.

Well, after that long tanchent, what I am trying to say, is, these characters have flaws, but thats what makes the show entertaining. Instead of analyzing each conversation between the girls, we should just take it for what it is. Just an intriguing character evolvement, within an entertaining show.:)

Well said. Except for a couple scenes (Lionel/Lex convo, for one), I enjoyed the show tremendously. Shoot me, but I loved the Clana in the episode. Kudos to KK and Lana. Now that's a character you can watch. The truth bubbles up. Great episode!

Krypton935
02-01-2008, 08:35 AM
i wanted to put the smackdown on lana!! that pissed me off! chloe knows clark better than anyone and shes his best and most loyal friend theat made me angry!!

AndiGirl
02-01-2008, 08:54 AM
i wanted to put the smackdown on lana!! that pissed me off! chloe knows clark better than anyone and shes his best and most loyal friend theat made me angry!!

Yea...and Chloe really didnt seem to phased by it...she's like "yep....ok Lana." Chloe is secure in her friendship/relationship with Lana...and this episode proves she has nothing to worry about in that department. The only time Chloe seemed truly upset was hearing Lana and Clark were leaving town together. Lana was basically acting like a child in this episode. She didnt want to let her fun new toy go. :p

aqgalaxy
02-01-2008, 08:56 AM
You know what I wished... When Chloe said "I've been apart of Clark's inner circle for a while now..." I wished she said, "I've been apart of Clark's inner circle longer then you were, I know when Clark's not himself."

AndiGirl
02-01-2008, 09:02 AM
You know what I wished... When Chloe said "I've been apart of Clark's inner circle for a while now..." I wished she said, "I've been apart of Clark's inner circle longer then you were, I know when Clark's not himself."

That would have been nice to hear. But thats also what I loved about the scene...Chloe didnt stoop to Lana's level. She was there to let her know there was somehing wrong with Clark...not to take cheap shots like Lana. I personally think a cheap shot is just what Lana needs! :). But Chloe was her typical classy self, and kept her emotions in check.

aqgalaxy
02-01-2008, 09:07 AM
That would have been nice to hear. But thats also what I loved about the scene...Chloe didnt stoop to Lana's level. She was there to let her know there was somehing wrong with Clark...not to take cheap shots like Lana. I personally think a cheap shot is just what Lana needs! :). But Chloe was her typical classy self, and kept her emotions in check.
Oh I agree, I just.. At least I know Chloe was right :D

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Yea...and Chloe really didnt seem to phased by it...she's like "yep....ok Lana." Chloe is secure in her friendship/relationship with Lana...and this episode proves she has nothing to worry about in that department. The only time Chloe seemed truly upset was hearing Lana and Clark were leaving town together. Lana was basically acting like a child in this episode. She didnt want to let her fun new toy go. :p

I somewhat disagree, Chloe was so sure of herself until Bizana told her they were leaving smallville so Chloe probably thought she was wrong. That scene IMO showed Chloe still loves Clark, but has indeed let him go and stuff.

AndiGirl
02-01-2008, 09:09 AM
Oh I agree, I just.. At least I know Chloe was right :D

Like always! :lol: Lana is just a joke at this point...and strangly enough, I think thats a general agreement on the boards. That has to be a first.

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Oh I agree, I just.. At least I know Chloe was right :D

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I somewhat disagree, Chloe was so sure of herself until Bizana told her they were leaving smallville so Chloe probably thought she was wrong. That scene IMO showed Chloe still loves Clark, but has indeed let him go and stuff.

Oh...I totally agree. Chloe was pretty upset when she found out they were leaving together. Thats why the scene with the real Clark in the DP was so cute. Telling him she was upset they were leaving together...and Clarks reaction. It's obvious there isnt just friendship there. I loved it! Chloe is always looking out for others, I wish she would just claim whats rightfully hers already! :p, Actually...correction, Clark needs to do the claiming this time. She has put herself out there enough for that boy.

Clarkgirl8
02-01-2008, 09:38 AM
Actually i should say i laughed a little at this scene... i read spoilers soo when Lana said maybe you dont know him blah blah... i said yeaaah Lana ok... and then the let go thing... i said oooouch and then my brother screamd CATFIGHT! :lol: sooo it was funny i dont even care Lana didnt apologize we know Chloe was right and the situation now is soooo ncomfortable for Lana, i think i have enough with that... :p

harryandginnyfanatic
02-01-2008, 09:42 AM
CATFIGHT! :lol:

I wish! :lol:

kryptonaidxh
02-02-2008, 08:14 AM
:lol:very Ironic, Lana telling Chloe she has to let Clark go? when is actually Lana the one who should let Clark go because we know Clark is not for her, he´s for Lois Lane.
and the pathetic words of Lana, trying to say that she knows Clark better than Chloe:lol:
she forgot that Chloe has been Clark´s confident years before she even dated Clark and even knew about his secret:):lol:

kal-el returns
02-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Chloe was trying to convince Lana that Clark wasn't himself. And Lana said "Chloe. Maybe it's time for you to let go of him a little."

i think lana meant that chloe should try not to involve herself in clark's life so much, because she's always had a 'thing' for him, even though she's like jimmy, lana may think that chloe is sticking to clark a little too much