Lex=True evil?

[feehan]

After seeing tonight's episode, Persona, do you believe that Lex has finally completed his journey to the dark side? I mean, he had his own "brother" shot down and killed, that's pretty evil, but is he now finally beyond redemption?

[mc452]

he's close.... i think it'll take something more, i dont know what.

[CK010101]

Like i dont know.....killing Lionel maybe.....

[Honey45]

Before I wasn't so sure, but now I definately think so. I knew when Jullian got shot, it was because of Lex.
The whole screaming in the rain thing was kind of weird though..

[globalbudd3]

Yep, he definitely turned wacko here.

With regard to killing Julian......as long as you can hurt daddy feeling, killing your dead revived brother is just another day in the life of Lex...then again no problem, just go create more clones and settle one that will follow your order like an obedient dog

Now tell me that Lex is not evil...MUWAHAHAH

All I can think of is...poor Lois, yet another guy she can't have...hey, maybe she and Lana should compare notes...

[AngelaV]

He was evil before this. This is his second killing of his "brother" though he actually didn't do this one. Making a woman believe she is pregnant and then making her believe she miscarried was just down right nasty no matter who the woman was.

[skylar]

Lex was already evil. Killing his brother is just another notch on the Luther belt. Next could be" Daddy "

[ClarksGal]

He was already there, but I think this is one of his last major shifts. Killing Julian would be kind of a big deal for Lex. Killing his father will definitely be the last straw, but I think he's pretty close.

[IamProdigy]

I miss the nice Lex, but the cold-hearted Lex is actually cool to see, lol.

But actually I'm one to think Lex killed Lucas; he told Lionel that he's gone and Lionel will never see him again; but I could be the only one to think that meant, "Lucas is dead and the worms are feasting on his corpse."

But Lex killing his father in "Veritas" would show "truth" that Lex is pure evil.

[Ilovebeinglost]

He was evil before this. This is his second killing of his "brother" though he actually didn't do this one. Making a woman believe she is pregnant and then making her believe she miscarried was just down right nasty no matter who the woman was.


He never killed the first one, he took the blame to save his mother. His mother was mentally ill and smothered the baby. Lionel hated him all his life for that and he really believed he had done it. That was revealed in the epi memoria

[ClarksGal]

He never killed the first one, he took the blame to save his mother. His mother was mentally ill and smothered the baby. Lionel hated him all his life for that and he really believed he had done it. That was revealed in the epi memoria

I think she was talking about the first clone, Adrian. Lex shot him after screaming, "you're not my brother!"

[AngelaV]

He never killed the first one, he took the blame to save his mother. His mother was mentally ill and smothered the baby. Lionel hated him all his life for that and he really believed he had done it. That was revealed in the epi memoria

Sorry I meant second clone "brother"

[Darkcook]

But Lex killing his father in "Veritas" would show "truth" that Lex is pure evil.

Mmh... Interesting meaning of "Veritas".

[minerva73]

All I can think of is...poor Lois, yet another guy she can't have...hey, maybe she and Lana should compare notes...

She, Lana, and Martha should all compare their lost loves with Luthors. :lol: I really wanna know how Lois is going to react if she finds out that Grant was really a Luthor.

Lex is slowly taking steps to becoming more evil and this is proof of it. The day that he does something (like kill someone) without feeling guilty will show it. Maybe it will happen in "Veritas".

[Dor el]

She, Lana, and Martha should all compare their lost loves with Luthors. The day that he does something (like kill someone) without feeling guilty will show it. Maybe it will happen in "Veritas".

Are we sure he felt guilty about having Grant killed? I'm not so sure that I believe he felt guilty. I think he was angry that Grant didn't turn out to be the all accepting brother he wanted to control, manipulate, and pal around with. I didn't get the impression that Lex felt guilty. Once Gabriel was an independent thinker who basically rejected Lex, then Lex didn't give a fig about Grant. Utter rejection is something Lex can't forgive and forget. That's why that when/if he kills Lionel, Lex will have no remorse. Lionel pretty much let Lex know that he admitted that he (Lionel) had lost the son he loved. This is tantamount to Lionel's rejection of what Lex has become. Cold, calculating, conniving Lex makes a great villain. That's one of the main reasons I love Lex Luthor as a villain; he just plain doesn't care how bad he is.

[Kal-ed]

Nope, not at all and I wont think otherwise untill his "evilness" is not related to "Daddy didnt love me" or "Daddy loves someone more than me"... I think it just makes him look like a spoiled kid that over reacts when they take away his favorite toy.

[Krypton935]

Yes! Having his 'brother' killed! essence of evil! The way he screamed was really creepy though....regret?....remorse?

[Stephen Robinson]

I think Lex's killing Grant is an interesting spin on his mother's murder of Julian. In both instances, they were obsessed with the belief that Grant/Julian was better of dead than involved with Lionel.

We also see that Lex is incapable of loving someone and confuses "love" with possession.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I also think it was jealousy , lex was jealous that lionel embraced Gabriel and not lex.

[DreadShamus]

Not TRUE evil. He is evil, however, until he can kill anyone around him without remorse, he is not True Evil.

Lex in the comics/other shows could find attraction and desire, but he also had no qualms about killing off anyone who got in his way.

[theWatcher]

This episode truly showed us how far gone Lex has really become. Even Lionel said to him that he has lost him. Truly disturbing to find out that you have surpassed your own sadistic father (the early Lionel Luther).

[litew8]

I don't think that him killing the second clone of Jullian makes him evil. I don't think him standing out in the rain represented him turning darker. I think him killing Jullian and then screaming in the rain meant that he was ticked off that his plans didn't work the way he intended. I guess it could imply he is turning darker or more devilish --> because he's becoming more determined to control. What he did and his reaction afterwards was because he disliked the fact that they didn't work out (like alot of things in his life). Now he's really going to strive to do things in a more sinister way. Maybe more blunt in his actions, without care or concern.

[Luv4PhilCollins729]

I think Lex is on the verge of turning to the dark side, but he's not quite there yet. I think the thing that will finally turn him will be killing Loinel and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

He's on a knife edge, right on the edge of insanity. It ****ing brilliant!!

[MidgardDragon]

I think Lex has been true evil for a while now. What some have failed to realize is true evil isn't constantly doing evil things then holding your pinky up to your mouth and saying "Evvvillll". Doing evil things then having the suaveness to brush them off and go on with your life, that's true evil.

[DDR Paladin356]

I think that in the end he's going to kill Lionel. I think it'll be the ultimate end on his path toward evil. Though, he's pretty evil right now.

I will say, like someone else said, I miss the old days of the Kinder Lex.

[LoveHurts38]

Almost !

[Alexander III]

Not yet there, but if he decides to kill Lana then he's TOTALLY there!

[DarkseidNow]

What I really liked was the role reversal between Lionel and Lex. Usually it was Lionel on the balcony whenever Lex would come into his study, almost giving Lionel the symbolic imperiousness.

But in this episode, it was Lex in that position this time.

And yes, Lionel really has no right to condemn Lex, given that he is a product of Lionel's countless tests and despicable actions.

[MozartRequiem]

"What I really liked was the role reversal between Lionel and Lex. Usually it was Lionel on the balcony whenever Lex would come into his study, almost giving Lionel the symbolic imperiousness."

Good thought, DarkseidNow! I love when camera angles like that reveal things about the characters...it's one of the MANY reasons I love "Smallville" so much, because it's very cinematic in that way. I'm an indie filmmaker, and this show kinda got me obsessed with symbolism in the camera angles I use...lol. :)

"And yes, Lionel really has no right to condemn Lex, given that he is a product of Lionel's countless tests and despicable actions."

Ah, but don't you believe a man can change? Lionel's proven time and time again that he wants to be a good man now, and he wants Lex to be a good man too. Lex just keeps pushing himself further into darkness, so doesn't Lionel have some right to be disappointed in that? I think, really, the thing is that Lionel sees a reflection of the man he used to be, and it makes him sick. He truly has created a monster. He's even taken the blame for it (as he should), like in "Vessel" when he said, "Lex isn't like you, Clark. I raised him to be ruthless at any cost..." So I think Lionel realizes the role he played in Lex's demise, but it still makes him dismayed and disgusted to see his son sink so low.

[kasealaine]

I hope that the evilness gets here quickly.
MR is, I believe, the best actor on the show right now. On top of that, this evil transformation has been the easiest transition (I think) for the writers to make. I can foresee him being evil, I have a hard time seeing Clark as Superman or Lois as ILL. The best part for me, though, is how I didn't really notice it happening until, one day, he was cloning people. It's great.