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Honey45
01-30-2008, 06:58 PM
I don't get what the whole Clark and Lana thing was about.

Is he upset that she didn't realize it wasn't him? Or that she told Bizarro she's never felt closer to "him"?

Poyntz
01-30-2008, 07:05 PM
I think it was just showing drama and conflict of emotions. I think she's confused because she had strong feelings for someone who wasnt even him after all and she couldnt tell the difference.

And he is confused because he just doesnt know what to think anymore if she couldnt tell it wasnt him does she really love him.

they like to play on the emotions on the last scenes like that.

mc452
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
i think it might be have been a bit of a wake up call for both of them.... for her; that shes more in love with a phantom clark than with the clark shes always known, and for him that she doesnt know him well enough to tell that it was a phantom, when even chloe did.

Poyntz
01-30-2008, 07:38 PM
i hated how lana was belittling chloe with the "maybe you should step away" comment (not sure if that were the true words i cant remember the actually saying)

mc452
01-30-2008, 07:38 PM
i hated how lana was belittling chloe with the "maybe you should step away" comment (not sure if that were the true words i cant remember the actually saying)

that was one of two times i wanted to punch her tonight.

Ilovebeinglost
01-30-2008, 07:45 PM
I don't get what the whole Clark and Lana thing was about.

Is he upset that she didn't realize it wasn't him? Or that she told Bizarro she's never felt closer to "him"?

The whole thing plus the sex and they were going to run off together because although she didn't know it wasn't Clark she sure like him. ;)

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i hated how lana was belittling chloe with the "maybe you should step away" comment (not sure if that were the true words i cant remember the actually saying)


Yes and the , "well maybe you don't know Clark as well as you think".:p

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i think it might be have been a bit of a wake up call for both of them.... for her; that shes more in love with a phantom Clark than with the clark shes always known, and for him that she doesnt know him well enough to tell that it was a phantom, when even chloe did.


It was the sex I tell you. She loved it with the phantom:rotfl:

Honey45
01-30-2008, 07:53 PM
The whole thing plus the sex and they were going to run off together because although she didn't know it wasn't Clark she sure like him. ;)

...

It was the sex I tell you. She loved it with the phantom:rotfl:

What makes you think they had sex? Because they slept naked in bed together? That doesn't mean anything.

Besides, Clark and Lana haven't had sex in forever because of Clark's powers - don't you think she'd be suspicious if, out of no where, Clark was willing to have sex?
They didn't.

aqgalaxy
01-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Honey, they had sex, these are AlMiles and a Lana with a man scene, her being naked with who she thinks is Clark means they had sex, or that is the message implied.

Now, I want to know is one thing, that sprint Clip with Bizarro and Clark with Lana taking Bizarro's hand, she left with him?

mc452
01-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Honey, they had sex, these are AlMiles and a Lana with a man scene, her being naked with who she thinks is Clark means they had sex, or that is the message implied.

Now, I want to know is one thing, that sprint Clip with Bizarro and Clark with Lana taking Bizarro's hand, she left with him?

no she needed to be touching him so she could hit him with blue K

Honey45
01-30-2008, 08:05 PM
Honey, they had sex, these are AlMiles and a Lana with a man scene, her being naked with who she thinks is Clark means they had sex, or that is the message implied.

Now, I want to know is one thing, that sprint Clip with Bizarro and Clark with Lana taking Bizarro's hand, she left with him?

I'll be happy when this is cleared up in the next few episodes. I don't know why people are assuming they had sex. How would Lana NOT be suspicious of "Clark" being willing to have sex after they've gone without it for so long?

BadToad
01-30-2008, 08:08 PM
I can't figure out how Lana was NOT suspicious just because Biz wasn't even acting like Clark. I could see cutting her some slack if it was a convincing Clark act. But having seen the Clana scenes, it isn't even close. Seems Lana is just happy he got a personality transplant, and is now fixated on her and nothing else. And frankly, if thats what she wants, why the heck is she with Clark in the first place?

Nospam
01-30-2008, 08:09 PM
I'll be happy when this is cleared up in the next few episodes. I don't know why people are assuming they had sex. How would Lana NOT be suspicious of "Clark" being willing to have sex after they've gone without it for so long?

That is precisely why a lot of people had a WTF? moment when spoilers came in that they might have sex.

Honey45
01-30-2008, 08:10 PM
That is precisely why a lot of people had a WTF? moment when spoilers came in that they might have sex.

Then they didn't have sex.
If they did, that would be a HUGE plot hole since the whole "We can't have sex because of my powers" issue was mentioned in quite a few episodes.

Nospam
01-30-2008, 08:12 PM
Then they didn't have sex.
If they did, that would be a HUGE plot hole since the whole "We can't have sex because of my powers" issue was mentioned in quite a few episodes.

Again, this is Smallville. MOD EDIT

aqgalaxy
01-30-2008, 08:19 PM
If they did, that would be a HUGE plot hole since the whole "We can't have sex because of my powers" issue was mentioned in quite a few episodes.
How? Bizarro wouldn't have that problem and he wasn't nearly acting like Clark.

miks
01-30-2008, 08:21 PM
Then they didn't have sex.
If they did, that would be a HUGE plot hole since the whole "We can't have sex because of my powers" issue was mentioned in quite a few episodes.

Yes but that's what is soo messed up! Lana didn't even think about that, she just wanted some booty! I do believe they had sex, AlMiles wouldn't be showing her naked and then getting into bed with Biz if they didn't have sex, or were about to. I sleep naked with my boyfriend too, but when we haven't had sex in a long time, and we're naked, something is going to happen. Just like it is with those two. She didn't care about that whole power thing, maybe she thought it was okay all of a sudden. Either way, there is no way they would have showed her naked, and Biz telling her to come to bed, and making out, without them having sex!

Honey45
01-30-2008, 08:28 PM
How? Bizarro wouldn't have that problem and he wasn't nearly acting like Clark.

It's not that they wouldn't be able to. It's that Lana would be suspicious since Clark was never willing to.


I sleep naked with my boyfriend too, but when we haven't had sex in a long time, and we're naked, something is going to happen. Just like it is with those two. She didn't care about that whole power thing, maybe she thought it was okay all of a sudden. Either way, there is no way they would have showed her naked, and Biz telling her to come to bed, and making out, without them having sex!

Just because that's how it is with YOUR boyfriend, that isn't necessarily how it is with everyone else. It's completely possible they would show them naked and kissing without having sex. Just because they sleep naked together doesn't mean they've having sex.

mc452
01-30-2008, 08:29 PM
you sure are against bizana having sex


*my bad

Honey45
01-30-2008, 08:30 PM
you sure are against clana having sex

I was never talking about Clark and Lana having sex.
I was talking about Bizarro and Lana having sex.

I'm not "against" or "for" it, I just don't get why people are making such an assumption. If they had sex, it probably would have been mentioned verbally, at least with "Last night was amazing" or something like that. Getting out of bed naked means nothing.

jazel
01-30-2008, 08:31 PM
did the ending already air ?

sabi908
01-30-2008, 08:32 PM
What makes you think they had sex? Because they slept naked in bed together? That doesn't mean anything.

Besides, Clark and Lana haven't had sex in forever because of Clark's powers - don't you think she'd be suspicious if, out of no where, Clark was willing to have sex?
They didn't.
even if they didnt have sex....she essentially betrayed Clark by even getting in bed naked with Bizzarro....If Chloe could tell the difference...why couldnt Lana? (who happens to be his significant other)

miks
01-30-2008, 08:57 PM
It's not that they wouldn't be able to. It's that Lana would be suspicious since Clark was never willing to.



Just because that's how it is with YOUR boyfriend, that isn't necessarily how it is with everyone else. It's completely possible they would show them naked and kissing without having sex. Just because they sleep naked together doesn't mean they've having sex.

You're right, that's not how it is with everyone else, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you don't want it to have happened, doesn't mean it didn't happen. All of the clues are pointing to yes it did happen. I could honestly care less if it did or did not happen. I think its funny that it did, being that lana is his "significant other", even though chloe was the one to notice it wasn't him, but I don't care if she has sex with clark or biz, because most everyone knows that their relationship is crap and should have ended a long time ago anyway.

ClarksGal
01-30-2008, 09:06 PM
Honey, they had sex, these are AlMiles and a Lana with a man scene, her being naked with who she thinks is Clark means they had sex, or that is the message implied.

Now, I want to know is one thing, that sprint Clip with Bizarro and Clark with Lana taking Bizarro's hand, she left with him?

No, in the Sprint clip Lana didn't leave with him. She took his hand and the scene was over. Did she leave with him in the show?

miks
01-30-2008, 09:08 PM
no she didn't. She was putting the blue kryptonite in his hand

paolinki25
01-30-2008, 09:27 PM
What is exactly the point of having these scenes? That's my question. I haven't watched the episode, but from what I'm reading, it just seems like another, pointless, Clana-drama, angsty scene that doesn't move any of the characters forward.

As for Bizarro/Lana having sex. Completely expected. It seems, the only way AlMiles are capable of showing Clana sex is through loopholes (Clark loses powers, Lana gains powers, Clark is not Clark....). It just tells you how freaking dysfunctional Clana truly is.

Imzadia
01-30-2008, 10:09 PM
I'd like to politely join in this discussion, if I may. I won't actually Watch the new SMALLVILLE episode "Persona" until tomorrow night. However, my RSS feed threw out a 'tease' to me titled "The ending...?" Naturally, I HAD to find out what you folk were talking about.

I too have read references to the possibility that Bizana would have a romantic sexual romp. OK...I agree with all of you, 'sabi908', 'aggalaxy', 'Nospam', 'miks', and others who believe that it WAS indeed implied that Bizarro and Lana had sex since you all saw them naked and in bed together. It's the kind of Inuendo SMALLVILLE has used in the past, especially since it's targeted fan base is the "Family", and must be suitable even for children to watch. It's their subtle way to IMPLY that their 'Adult' relationship, supposedly more together now than they have EVER been, is changing and, naturally, becoming more intimate as they become more familiar with each other by living together. Of course, that would be the natural course of events involving two adults who are in love with each other.

I said all that even though we all know that Clark is NOT Human. Yes, he may be Kryptonian, but he is EMOTIONALLY a human, and I think it's a bit ridiculous to accept that he would be able to remain celibate with the woman he loves living under the same roof, not to mention in the same bed. I'm speaking from the vantage point of 38 years of marriage with a man who still can't resist me if I go to bed naked. (Unless he's sick, but then I wouldn't want to tempt him at such a time.) It's a signal for 'fireworks' in bed! We are in our fifties and have been married to each other all of our adult lives, and it would take complete exhaustion, or illness to cancel out sexual intimacy between us under those given circumstances. I hope this isn't too 'Heavy' for some of you younger forum members...Please, accept my apologies if I've offended you in some way.

Al/Miles said that S7 would explore a more 'Adult' relationship between Clark and Lana...something they haven't had before. In the situations that have led up to the circumstances in "Persona", it has always been My understanding that it was Clark who was overly cautious about being sexually intimate with Lana. She may only be cooperating with Clark because she knows he's afraid of hurting her. She may not have any actual fear of being hurt by Clark. BUT...she may be aware of certain changes in Clark that she's not seen before and is accepting and 'liking' that he's becoming bolder and that he's, maybe, re-evaluated their sexual possibilities and overcoming his personal fears of hurting her.

On the other hand, Bizarro Wouldn't Care or bother with concern for Lana's safety. Bizarro DOES NOT HAVE a conscience, as MM described him to Clark, or a Moral code. He's on a mission to Steal Clark's life, and Lana is only just now getting to know the REAL Clark. It's not too far of a stretch for her to be deceived by subtle uncharacteristic behavior by Clark. Whereas Chloe, as his best friend since high school and Pete's departure, has seen all sides of him. She DOES actually know Clark better than Lana.

OK, I hope I didn't bore you all, but that's MHO of what the current storyline is about. So, now I'll be anxiously waiting to see the episode that has spawned this debate. It sounds like a great episode. : D!

tmack09
01-30-2008, 11:26 PM
....I too have read references to the possibility that Bizana would have a romantic sexual romp. OK...I agree with all of you, 'sabi908', 'aggalaxy', 'Nospam', 'miks', and others who believe that it WAS indeed implied that Bizarro and Lana had sex since you all saw them naked and in bed together. It's the kind of Inuendo SMALLVILLE has used in the past, especially since it's targeted fan base is the "Family", and must be suitable even for children to watch. It's their subtle way to IMPLY that their 'Adult' relationship, supposedly more together now than they have EVER been, is changing and, naturally, becoming more intimate as they become more familiar with each other by living together. Of course, that would be the natural course of events involving two adults who are in love with each other.

I said all that even though we all know that Clark is NOT Human. Yes, he may be Kryptonian, but he is EMOTIONALLY a human, and I think it's a bit ridiculous to accept that he would be able to remain celibate with the woman he loves living under the same roof, not to mention in the same bed. I'm speaking from the vantage point of 38 years of marriage with a man who still can't resist me if I go to bed naked. (Unless he's sick, but then I wouldn't want to tempt him at such a time.) It's a signal for 'fireworks' in bed! We are in our fifties and have been married to each other all of our adult lives, and it would take complete exhaustion, or illness to cancel out sexual intimacy between us under those given circumstances. I hope this isn't too 'Heavy' for some of you younger forum members...Please, accept my apologies if I've offended you in some way.

Al/Miles said that S7 would explore a more 'Adult' relationship between Clark and Lana...something they haven't had before. In the situations that have led up to the circumstances in "Persona", it has always been My understanding that it was Clark who was overly cautious about being sexually intimate with Lana. She may only be cooperating with Clark because she knows he's afraid of hurting her. She may not have any actual fear of being hurt by Clark. BUT...she may be aware of certain changes in Clark that she's not seen before and is accepting and 'liking' that he's becoming bolder and that he's, maybe, re-evaluated their sexual possibilities and overcoming his personal fears of hurting her.

On the other hand, Bizarro Wouldn't Care or bother with concern for Lana's safety. Bizarro DOES NOT HAVE a conscience, as MM described him to Clark, or a Moral code. He's on a mission to Steal Clark's life, and Lana is only just now getting to know the REAL Clark. It's not too far of a stretch for her to be deceived by subtle uncharacteristic behavior by Clark. Whereas Chloe, as his best friend since high school and Pete's departure, has seen all sides of him. She DOES actually know Clark better than Lana.

OK, I hope I didn't bore you all, but that's MHO of what the current storyline is about. So, now I'll be anxiously waiting to see the episode that has spawned this debate. It sounds like a great episode. : D!

Wow! I wish there was an applaud icon because I would certainly applaud ur comment! so i'll do this ::applause::

Anyway... im repeating this part of the Quote!

..and Lana is only just now getting to know the REAL Clark. It's not too far of a stretch for her to be deceived by subtle uncharacteristic behavior by Clark. Whereas Chloe, as his best friend since high school and Pete's departure, has seen all sides of him. She DOES actually know Clark better than Lana.
Before I watched "some" of the clips for this episode, this is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say on another thread, when people were in such disbelif that Lana wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Bizarro and Clark! ....Thank you for making this point! ;)

AngelaV
01-31-2008, 02:20 AM
I agree that Lana seemed to have loved Biz more. A lot can happen in a month. I seriously had to rewind to hear Biz again when he said that him and Lana had been together a month. They didn't show it on the screen like that at all. So if Clark comes back and right off opens up to Lana, why should she question anything? No, we didn't see the lets try to have sex finally. But it's implied. Lana's naked backside is all I need to know.

I'm actually glad this part of the relationship has FINALLY been explored. Biz was what Lana WANTED Clark to be. A regular boyfriend. But as we all know like Chloe knows, that's not what's it going to be. Chloe was the voice of reason because she truly does know Clark and accepts him as he is. Lana never has. When she was standing there infront of Biz I really thought she might not slap him the blue K. This is one of the things that really makes me struggle to like Lana. She should never have hesitated. Heck, she should've known something was wrong at some point in that month. However this makes me wonder if she had a feeling something was wrong but wanted to stay in "bliss". The way she spoke to Chloe about maybe Chloe doesn't know him as well as she thinks, made Lana look like she was trying to convince herself of that.

The fact that Biz "loved" Lana was just EWE. Wouldn't taking over the world be just a bit more fun? :)

smallviluva
01-31-2008, 05:52 AM
i think they did, she even did the whole "hi" thing when she woke up just like she did after clark n her in season 5.

TOMophilus
01-31-2008, 06:08 AM
The fact that Biz "loved" Lana was just EWE. Wouldn't taking over the world be just a bit more fun? :)
People who rule the world usually have no time for sex anymore. Iīd rather opt for sex: itīs more fun than taking over the world :lol:

DGirlLois4Clark
01-31-2008, 06:21 AM
What is exactly the point of having these scenes? That's my question. I haven't watched the episode, but from what I'm reading, it just seems like another, pointless, Clana-drama, angsty scene that doesn't move any of the characters forward.

As for Bizarro/Lana having sex. Completely expected. It seems, the only way AlMiles are capable of showing Clana sex is through loopholes (Clark loses powers, Lana gains powers, Clark is not Clark....). It just tells you how freaking dysfunctional Clana truly is.

My point exactly. I bet the next episode will be 'back to normal' as if nothing had happen. what is the point of episodes like this when it rarely leads to any character development.. geez.

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I'd like to politely join in this discussion, if I may. I won't actually Watch the new SMALLVILLE episode "Persona" until tomorrow night. However, my RSS feed threw out a 'tease' to me titled "The ending...?" Naturally, I HAD to find out what you folk were talking about.

I too have read references to the possibility that Bizana would have a romantic sexual romp. OK...I agree with all of you, 'sabi908', 'aggalaxy', 'Nospam', 'miks', and others who believe that it WAS indeed implied that Bizarro and Lana had sex since you all saw them naked and in bed together. It's the kind of Inuendo SMALLVILLE has used in the past, especially since it's targeted fan base is the "Family", and must be suitable even for children to watch. It's their subtle way to IMPLY that their 'Adult' relationship, supposedly more together now than they have EVER been, is changing and, naturally, becoming more intimate as they become more familiar with each other by living together. Of course, that would be the natural course of events involving two adults who are in love with each other.

I said all that even though we all know that Clark is NOT Human. Yes, he may be Kryptonian, but he is EMOTIONALLY a human, and I think it's a bit ridiculous to accept that he would be able to remain celibate with the woman he loves living under the same roof, not to mention in the same bed. I'm speaking from the vantage point of 38 years of marriage with a man who still can't resist me if I go to bed naked. (Unless he's sick, but then I wouldn't want to tempt him at such a time.) It's a signal for 'fireworks' in bed! We are in our fifties and have been married to each other all of our adult lives, and it would take complete exhaustion, or illness to cancel out sexual intimacy between us under those given circumstances. I hope this isn't too 'Heavy' for some of you younger forum members...Please, accept my apologies if I've offended you in some way.

Al/Miles said that S7 would explore a more 'Adult' relationship between Clark and Lana...something they haven't had before. In the situations that have led up to the circumstances in "Persona", it has always been My understanding that it was Clark who was overly cautious about being sexually intimate with Lana. She may only be cooperating with Clark because she knows he's afraid of hurting her. She may not have any actual fear of being hurt by Clark. BUT...she may be aware of certain changes in Clark that she's not seen before and is accepting and 'liking' that he's becoming bolder and that he's, maybe, re-evaluated their sexual possibilities and overcoming his personal fears of hurting her.

On the other hand, Bizarro Wouldn't Care or bother with concern for Lana's safety. Bizarro DOES NOT HAVE a conscience, as MM described him to Clark, or a Moral code. He's on a mission to Steal Clark's life, and Lana is only just now getting to know the REAL Clark. It's not too far of a stretch for her to be deceived by subtle uncharacteristic behavior by Clark. Whereas Chloe, as his best friend since high school and Pete's departure, has seen all sides of him. She DOES actually know Clark better than Lana.

OK, I hope I didn't bore you all, but that's MHO of what the current storyline is about. So, now I'll be anxiously waiting to see the episode that has spawned this debate. It sounds like a great episode. : D!

I understand ur point but at the same time, what does that say about their supposed 'deeo love' for each other, when it is clear they dont actually know eachother that well.

To me, i find the whole Clana relationship an ideology both Clark and Lana have built up in their heads.

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 06:40 AM
The last line of the song at the end say's it all.

and whats with the trying to be 'charmed' in the biz/clark/lana scene. I mean that really was just weird ..

tmack09
01-31-2008, 07:07 AM
The last line of the song at the end say's it all.

and whats with the trying to be 'charmed' in the biz/clark/lana scene. I mean that really was just weird ..

hahaha...thats what i commented on one of the youtube vids at the end! haha! seriously was a Pheobe/Cole knock off moment in that scene!! lol :lol:

oooooo Lana and Clark....Clark and Lana....Lana and Bizarro....its all starting to look and sound like foolishness to me now....Blah Blah Woof Woof! NEXT SCENE! :)

Kalista
01-31-2008, 07:41 AM
I said all that even though we all know that Clark is NOT Human. Yes, he may be Kryptonian, but he is EMOTIONALLY a human, and I think it's a bit ridiculous to accept that he would be able to remain celibate with the woman he loves living under the same roof, not to mention in the same bed.

Exactly. There is no way that nothing would happen between a naked man and women in the same bed, especially if they are in love. Heck, most men physically could not refrain even if a random stranger jumped into their bed.



I'm speaking from the vantage point of 38 years of marriage with a man who still can't resist me if I go to bed naked. (Unless he's sick, but then I wouldn't want to tempt him at such a time.) It's a signal for 'fireworks' in bed! We are in our fifties and have been married to each other all of our adult lives, and it would take complete exhaustion, or illness to cancel out sexual intimacy between us under those given circumstances.

Speaking from the vantage point of five years of marriage, what you say is so true!:rotfl::rotfl: And illness is no deterrent.:lol:

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What makes you think they had sex? Because they slept naked in bed together? That doesn't mean anything.

You do know that your assessment is, for the most part, unrealistic...right?:confused:

ClarksGal
01-31-2008, 08:07 AM
On the other hand, Bizarro Wouldn't Care or bother with concern for Lana's safety. Bizarro DOES NOT HAVE a conscience, as MM described him to Clark, or a Moral code. He's on a mission to Steal Clark's life, and Lana is only just now getting to know the REAL Clark. It's not too far of a stretch for her to be deceived by subtle uncharacteristic behavior by Clark. Whereas Chloe, as his best friend since high school and Pete's departure, has seen all sides of him. She DOES actually know Clark better than Lana. !

Great post. Especially this part.

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 08:34 AM
hahaha...thats what i commented on one of the youtube vids at the end! haha! seriously was a Pheobe/Cole knock off moment in that scene!! lol :lol:

Lana and Clark....Clark and Lana....Lana and Bizarro....its all starting to look and sound like foolishness to me now....Blah Blah Woof Woof! NEXT SCENE! :)

I know :rotfl: then when biz said 'I love you' right before he died just as cole did I couldn't help but laugh I was like Owkay:lol:

and your right ...NEXT

Kalista
01-31-2008, 08:40 AM
then when biz said 'I love you' right before he died

excuse me while I vomit:rolleyes:

Tottally ~ Free
01-31-2008, 08:42 AM
excuse me while I vomit:rolleyes:

owkay..your excused :rotfl:

tariksam
01-31-2008, 09:19 AM
[QUOTE=Totally ~ Free;3567742]I know :rotfl: then when biz said 'I love you' right before he died just as cole did I couldn't help but laugh I was like Owkay:lol:

MOD EDIT you ruined the possible best villain making him lovey doopey!!!!!!

MOD EDIT
But BRAVO AlMilles the best version of a villain surprisingly you could come up with and you turn it in a poor version of its Comic/L&C/S:TAS original...just in one episode.

aqgalaxy
01-31-2008, 09:33 AM
I just... The final like uttered by Bizarro is "I love you Lana" how pathetic

IamProdigy
01-31-2008, 09:42 AM
I just... The final like uttered by Bizarro is "I love you Lana" how pathetic

Isn't the whole Bizarro character supposed to be pathetic? He always wanted everything that Superman had, and of course once he has sex with Lana, obviously he would think he loves her, lol.

But I can't believe that they didn't have an actual, DECENT Clark/Bizarro battle...and it could've been pretty good, because hey, we actually got a couple kicks and punches in "Bizarro". But, then again, I guess you can't do much with a Clark/Bizarro fight when all you have is a room and if they went outside, Bizarro would've became weak. But yet again, Clark almost got pwned.

Ilovebeinglost
01-31-2008, 09:43 AM
My point exactly. I bet the next episode will be 'back to normal' as if nothing had happen. what is the point of episodes like this when it rarely leads to any character development.. geez.

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I understand ur point but at the same time, what does that say about their supposed 'deeo love' for each other, when it is clear they dont actually know eachother that well.

To me, i find the whole Clana relationship an ideology both Clark and Lana have built up in their heads.


I really think they are done. The song they played said it all and the ending of the song when Clark and Lana were distant, said "and now comes the fall"

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But I can't believe that they didn't have an actual, DECENT Clark/Bizarro battle...and it could've been pretty good, because hey, we actually got a couple kicks and punches in "Bizarro". But, then again, I guess you can't do much with a Clark/Bizarro fight when all you have is a room and if they went outside, Bizarro would've became weak. But yet again, Clark almost got pwned.

I have to give kudos to Tom who did a great job playing both parts especially when both were talking to Lana.

vezz801
01-31-2008, 02:59 PM
i am a american viewer, but I was on my way back to Olean, New York (bottom of NY) and we stopped at my cousin's in Canada because she gets the (A? whats it called? we have CW) channel. I missed a few parts bcuz my cuz wanted to show me some new supes comics he got and i sai dit was fine bcuz he waz recoding and i will c it again tonight, so i missed a few parts, but not much.

ANYWAY, i waz wondering what happened to Dax-Ur and Brainiac. And does anyone know the name of the song that played at the end? I want that song on my mp3 player, but they won't have the american viewing till tonight and they might not show it after the ep. Anyonw know?

Oh, and who else thought that the last few minutes were lame (no offense clana fans) compared to the past few episodes? wonder what we'll see for the now-expected AlMiles unknow plot twist during the episode...

Superfreakon
02-01-2008, 12:01 AM
Oh, by the way . . . they had sex.

What are we here? 10 years old?

Geez.

Charissa70
02-01-2008, 08:01 AM
The ending- should be the ending for them. Lana realizing that Clark doesn't make her completely happy and the fact that she doesn't really know him. (time for Chloe to give it to Lana 'maybe you should step back lana, cause I could tell it wasn't him and I don't go to bed with him!). Maybe she had relations with Biz(he could say fos made him able to be with her and Lana is written soooo dumb at times, she would believe him). Clark, knowing that Lana slept with Biz in his bed for a month, and it was still the same sheets. CHANGE THEM CLARK! Lana not really knowing him, that has to be devastating. A real person would figure it was just a physical attraction. The rain just made the scene sadder, more morbid, depressing. Like they already broke up. :confused:

jimmyolsenblues
02-01-2008, 08:04 AM
I got the feeling just with them laying down together, it was over.
I can't picture clark forgetting anything with his titanium trap mind.

supergirl28
02-01-2008, 08:38 AM
Clark so untight about not hurting her when it comes to sex, but if he really wants to keep Lana happy he's gunna have to let that go, and prove it to her that he really dose love her. That's why Lana felt closer to the phantom than Clark, he was giving her the only thing she's really ever asked from Clark. Not to hide his love for her.

AndiGirl
02-01-2008, 08:44 AM
It was pretty clear that Clark wasnt happy at the end. I'm not sure he was mad either...I mean, he pretty much took responsibility once again for Lana's actions. Blaming himself for her sleeping with Bizzaro. Which is just ridiuculous...but any way. She had to walk over to the window and take him to bed, and even then...it wasnt the romantic scene we saw with Bizzaro and Lana. It was just awkward this time. If anything...I think Clark is beginning to realize he doesnt love Lana like that anymore...just like Bizzaro said.

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Clark so untight about not hurting her when it comes to sex, but if he really wants to keep Lana happy he's gunna have to let that go, and prove it to her that he really dose love her. That's why Lana felt closer to the phantom than Clark, he was giving her the only thing she's really ever asked from Clark. Not to hide his love for her.

But his fears are ligitimate. I mean..it wont matter if they have sex or not if he kills her. He doesnt know what will happen...but i do agree, one day he will have to find out. But I cant see him going there with Lana...especially after this. There's no point

minerva73
02-01-2008, 08:50 AM
Lana not really knowing him, that has to be devastating. A real person would figure it was just a physical attraction. The rain just made the scene sadder, more morbid, depressing. Like they already broke up. :confused:

Well Clark hasn't given Lana the opportunity to know him as well as he's let Chloe. Even when he and Chloe fought, they ended up talking the next episode like friends again. Unlike with Lana, he's left her hanging for two episodes and she's feeling left out. So if there's any part of Clark that she could connect with, then she was willing to do it. All of her problems that piled up on her since she lost Clark's powers were overwhelming her and she needed someone to turn to. Bizarro was just the one there at the time. Clark, Chloe, Lex, Lois, or even Lionel weren't there to help her.

RedKalEL
02-01-2008, 10:06 AM
that was one of two times i wanted to punch her tonight.

what was the second time for? lol

Exhaulted_Ruler
02-01-2008, 11:32 AM
Just because that's how it is with YOUR boyfriend, that isn't necessarily how it is with everyone else. It's completely possible they would show them naked and kissing without having sex. Just because they sleep naked together doesn't mean they've having sex.

You've got to be kidding? If I was sleeping naked to a broad, she would've been sexxed up instantly. Clark is say, 21, 22? His hormones is raging. Lana was naked, and what purpose does it serve her to be that way? Was she cold? NO!! It was sunny in the morning. She was naked because Bizzaro was slammin his manhood in her.

msleggie
02-01-2008, 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Honey45
Then they didn't have sex.
If they did, that would be a HUGE plot hole since the whole "We can't have sex because of my powers" issue was mentioned in quite a few episodes.


That's exactly the point, Lana didn't put two and two together, and if Lana and Bizzaro were able to have sex, then Clark and Lana are able to have sex, and the fact that Clark is perhaps "pretending" not to be able to have sex with Lana, just shows that maybe he just doesn't want to be with Lana in that sense. (Not disreguarding the whole Wrath sex scene, but what is a person to do when someone is putting it out there)

susangail
02-01-2008, 06:49 PM
It was never a matter of not being able to, but of Clark being afraid to. Now Lana knows.

msleggie
02-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Now she knows what? That he can? That's gonna be even worse 4 her b/c Clark most likely won't do anything with her, and not b/c he's afraid but b/c he'll have the image of her and Bizzaro together and he'll remember what Lana said to Bizzaro at the end

Brizzle
02-01-2008, 07:21 PM
Look if Clark is really gonna be mad that she nailed Bizarro, then he is pretty stupid. it's obvious she couldn't tell he difference so it is not like she did it intentionally. But maybe Bizarro was right, maybe Clark doesn't love her. I mean he won't even touch the girl....Look Lana has put herself out there, and clark seems to keep holding back a lot, so it is really up to him right now to figure out what he wants becuz she already knows she wants to be with him.

do3mire
02-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Well Clark hasn't given Lana the opportunity to know him as well as he's let Chloe. Even when he and Chloe fought, they ended up talking the next episode like friends again. Unlike with Lana, he's left her hanging for two episodes and she's feeling left out. So if there's any part of Clark that she could connect with, then she was willing to do it. All of her problems that piled up on her since she lost Clark's powers were overwhelming her and she needed someone to turn to. Bizarro was just the one there at the time. Clark, Chloe, Lex, Lois, or even Lionel weren't there to help her.


Look if Clark is really gonna be mad that she nailed Bizarro, then he is pretty stupid. it's obvious she couldn't tell he difference so it is not like she did it intentionally. But maybe Bizarro was right, maybe Clark doesn't love her. I mean he won't even touch the girl....Look Lana has put herself out there, and clark seems to keep holding back a lot, so it is really up to him right now to figure out what he wants becuz she already knows she wants to be with him.

IA. Clark thinks he loves Lana but he really doesnt. Or, he doesnt know how to. Lana loves Clark but not the real Clark. The Clark she loves is the Clark in her head. Same for Clark. It took Biz to show the both of them the truth of the matter. Did Biz love Lana? I don't think so, but he knew what she wanted.

myankskent
02-01-2008, 07:37 PM
Look if Clark is really gonna be mad that she nailed Bizarro, then he is pretty stupid. it's obvious she couldn't tell he difference so it is not like she did it intentionally. But maybe Bizarro was right, maybe Clark doesn't love her. I mean he won't even touch the girl....Look Lana has put herself out there, and clark seems to keep holding back a lot, so it is really up to him right now to figure out what he wants becuz she already knows she wants to be with him.

I don't think it's quite like that. Lana was the one who pulled away from Clark in the first place by keeping all of those secrets from him at the beginning of the season. I can't fault Clark for having doubts at this point, however, I also don't think that Clark should string Lana along if he really doesn't want to be with her. He does need to make a decision....either make it work with Lana or end it.

Honey45
02-01-2008, 10:14 PM
You've got to be kidding? If I was sleeping naked to a broad, she would've been sexxed up instantly. Clark is say, 21, 22? His hormones is raging. Lana was naked, and what purpose does it serve her to be that way? Was she cold? NO!! It was sunny in the morning. She was naked because Bizzaro was slammin his manhood in her.

I'm the same age as Clark and Lana, and just because someone sleeps naked with someone does NOT mean they would be having sex. People can and will sleep naked for other reasons than having sex.
It's fine to think they had sex for whatever reason - but pelase don't assume every single person who sleeps naked together is having it.

kryptonaidxh
02-02-2008, 08:38 AM
[QUOTE=Honey45;3567142]What makes you think they had sex? Because they slept naked in bed together? That doesn't mean anything.

:\Oh no...they just got naked, and got in the bed just for talking..:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
are you that nive or just you pretend to apologize Lana with your fool coment?:lol::lol::lol:
Of course they Lana and Bizarro HAD SEX!, get over it honey, people doesnīt just get naked in the same bed just for talking or just sleeping, we didnīt need to see them having all the sex action to see what they did. come on! itīs obvious the had sex together.,:p:lol:

Jaderoyale
02-02-2008, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE=Honey45;3567142]What makes you think they had sex? Because they slept naked in bed together? That doesn't mean anything.

:\Oh no...they just got naked, and got in the bed just for talking..:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
are you that nive or just you pretend to apologize Lana with your fool coment?:lol::lol::lol:
Of course they Lana and Bizarro HAD SEX!, get over it honey, people doesnīt just get naked in the same bed just for talking or just sleeping, we didnīt need to see them having all the sex action to see what they did. come on! itīs obvious the had sex together.,:p:lol:

There is a chance that some people do actually sleep naked together and not have sex.
But, i think the whole, Lana and Bizarro together naked, and Lana and Clark together fully clothed, prooves that something more than innocent naked "snoozing" went on.:lol:

Honey45
02-02-2008, 11:58 AM
:\Oh no...they just got naked, and got in the bed just for talking..:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
are you that nive or just you pretend to apologize Lana with your fool coment?:lol::lol::lol:
Of course they Lana and Bizarro HAD SEX!, get over it honey, people doesnīt just get naked in the same bed just for talking or just sleeping, we didnīt need to see them having all the sex action to see what they did. come on! itīs obvious the had sex together.,:p:lol:


People don't just get naked in the same bed and not have sex? My boyfriend and I sleep naked without having sex. Get over it! It's fine if you think they had sex, but don't assume everyone naked in bed is having sex. Come on..

Dustmite
02-02-2008, 12:09 PM
My boyfriend and I sleep naked without having sex.

On TV, sleeping naked is meant to convey something. If Clark and Lana had woken up naked together, I think a lot of people denying Bizlana sex would be arguing the opposite.

kryptonaidxh
02-02-2008, 08:26 PM
of course!, we didnīt need to se all their sex secuense to figure out what they did before.
actually in Smallville we havenīt seen a sex secuence (with clear images and screams) in Lana sexīs scenes with Clark and Lex, itīs obvious they HAD SEX and that Lana enjoyed having sex with Bizarro much better than with Clark.:p