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Theshadow129x
01-22-2008, 07:19 AM
I'm studying to be a reporter/Journalist. Everyone who knows me, knows this. But I just saw a video while at work on a topic that really made me in fact angry. It was about video games and sex and violence. Here's the clip to everyone so they know why I was against the segment.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/163925.html

After watching that I was pretty much offended by how things were presented by these journalist/ reporters and the panelists. They all came to the table with their two cents with little or no hands-on experience with the subject at hand. I was very offended by the lack of information these people had for their topc and I wrote an e-mail/ letter to fox news about the subject and I thought I would share with everyone here.


Dear Fox News,

I have to say that It is an honor to be able to write to your network. I am a Journalism student in my junior year in college and I watch you television daily in hopes that one day I can be part of your network as a reporter. However I do have true concerns about a segment that you shot recently.

About a week ago, you had a segment about a game named Mass Effect and you said it was a video game where sex was an objective of the game. When I heard how you pointed a finger at a small matter in the game I was pretty offended. I was offended due to the lack of hands on experience alot of your researchers and correspondents had when it came down to the subject of sex and violence in video games. The reporter that hosted the segment actually said she looked onto the website before the segment and saw the scene people were talking about where the sex was presented, yet she also claimed to not have hands-on experience with the game itself. I found this truly distasteful. The thing about journalism that I have been studying is that researched, especially hands on research, is a very viable thing when it comes to reporting on the topic. The fact that she said she just skimmed a website and not accurate for a journalist to have true experience on a topic such as this. Being a reporter is about doing long-term research on a topic and provide all kinds of evidence to support a certain conclusion that the reporter is working to uncover from their subject.

Also you brought on the show a woman by the name of Cooper Lawrence who said she too didn't have experience with the game yet she said she saw research that video games have a long lasting sensual and violent appeal to children. While I do respect her opinion, her research was simply flat. People have been violent long before video games came into the world. Long before Pong, the first ever video game created by Video Game creator Ralph Baer. I, too, have played video games my entire life and have never committed a violent act of any kind that was presented in such video games as Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect, nor Halo, and yet video games are still pushed to make everyone believe it is the worlds worst invention that has been created.

I will say this based off of research and true facts that have been studied on video games and there defense. Video games have been actually said to help improve hand and eye coordination and also helps soldiers train for being in the army when fighting for our country. Video games are used as tools to for learning and studies have shown that kids tend to learn more through video games than they have through their teachers at school.

Furthermore there is a problem with the complete lack of panelists you had that expressed their thoughts on the video game industry as a whole. The thing is that Yes, there are mature themed games out there. However, your panelists said they were targeted at the young crowd. This is a nice assumption, but again as reporters and journalists assumptions aren't viable proofs to back-up an argument. Most gamers that are out there in the world are actually mature adults that have free time on their hands. The teenage crowd is actually a small percentage of the number of gamers out there in the world. The reason why more M-rated games are on the market is because gamer developers know their core audience is with the mature audience and not the teenage backdrop. Video gaming is very expensive and the average 16 year old or younger doesn't have the money to buy the video games, where as the average 25 to 36 year old does have the money to buy video games seeing as most are likely working for their entertainment. The video game industry knows this is where their market share lies, not with a 9 to 16 year old crowd in which most children in this age group isn't able to get a job right now because of economic problems.

To further stretch the argument, the finger is never really pointed at the people that matter most when it comes to children coming into contact with this games that people deem hurtful to children's moral compass: the parents. The problem is that when it comes to video games and the internet, these things can be filtered without any problem. Websites, content, words, expressions, signs can all be filtered on a computer so children don't become exposed to things that aren't appropriate for their children. The same goes for video games where its just like the games having a rating just like a movie. When a child wants to see a movie and they can't get into the feature without a parent its because there is material in the film that the MPAA deems inappropriate for children of a certain age. The same has been done with video games with the ESRB. The problem is that most parents don't take the time to read what the ratings mean when it comes to knowing what kind of game the child is getting into. To further push the envelope, a lot of parents can be blamed for the simple fact that they do not teach their children the difference between reality and fantasy and this too can prove to be a viable thing to stop children to saying and doing terrible things they deem appropriate from what they have seen or heard. All forms of entertainment are measured to have the same effect on a person whether if its in writing, painting, motion capture, or music. To blame one form of entertainment for moral degradation in our society is completely wrong. All forms of violence, speech, and acts on the world begins with the parents on how they correspond with their child when they are brought into the world; video games are not the result of it, they are being used as a scapegoat so that blame will not be pointed in the direction in which it is deserved.

Overall, I must say that when such segments are placed on a channel that claims to be full of facts and non-biased but go against everything they say they stand for actually hurts the credibility of station. This is one of the reasons why reporters and journalists are considered to many as biased, its because alot of todays news bringers go by little research and hands on experience with the subjects at hand. I do hope that in the future, when I become a reporter, things can be completely different.

Thank you for your time and hope you enjoyed my feedback.


Santez Henderson.



tell me how do you all feel on this subject and what I wrote.

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----

Oh and let me say one more thing about this. They completely dont know any about the game because the sex scene is at the end and its only a 10 second scene. the child needs to go through 31 hours of gameplay just to get to that moment and the average kid wouldnt even play a game like Mass Effect, they would be too busy wanting something more straight for like halo.

Matro
01-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Nice, well written letter. I think that I agree with everything you covered also. It sounds like they just jumped on the bandwagon and went with the story. I just hope that someone that holds a position with any pull actually reads it.

The Ninth Doctor
01-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Nice letter, in that both you did not launch into a vitriolic assault, which many have done, and you got your facts straight. That, and it was simply well written. When I saw the write up on gamepolitics.com, I sent one in as well. Here's a copy:
As a person who watches Fox News only, and never views other news networks, due to Fox being truly the only fair network out there, I am continually disappointed with Fox's coverage of any video-game related issue. Your "Sexbox" segment on Mass Effect exemplifies why.

Mass Effect is a cinematic SciFi RPG. This means that it is a Role Playing Game, or a game with great emphasis on story, plot, and character development, in a Science Fiction setting. It has been rated M, the video game equivalent of an R rated movie. However, it does not contain full nudity or interactive sex scenes as your segment stated. A major portion of Mass Effect is having conversations with various characters, and if, throughout the course of the game, you choose to have the main character respond in a certain manner to another character, a very short scene may ensue where it is implied they have sexual intercourse. Mass Effect lasts around 30 hours. The entirety of sexual content is about 2 minutes long. That's it. The scene is less graphic than many scenes in PG-13 movies or TV-14 episodes of television.

If parents do not want their children to play M-rated video games they do not need to "hover over them every second" as, on every video game console, including the X-Box 360 platform upon which Mass Effect was released, parents can automatically set the system to restrict play to games rated T or under (analogous to a PG-13 movie), or only play E rated games (analogous to a G rated movie). When a child plays a disc into the system which has a restricted rating, the system will not load the game. If the parents themselves wish to play M-rated games they can place a password on the option to play a rated M disc, so even if, as one panelist described, a child wishes to play his parents video games while they are gone, he cannot play them unless he has their password.

Ms Lawrence commented that we should "look at the statistics," and if we do, we see that it is in fact the Dad's , not the adolescent males, that make up the majority of video game players.Also, the FTC has found that, not only are adults the majority of video game players, but in all major stores it is very difficult for kids to buy M rated video games, just as they it is with R rated movies. She later comments that "the research shows that violence has a desensitizing effect". The overwhelming majority of research in fact only shows that, while playing video games, similar areas of the brain are stimulated than would be stimulated if you were actually performing that activity. If you play a racing game, the portion of your brain that would kick in in real life kicks in to help play the racing game. No long term effects have been shown- in fact, the number of youth video game players has been inversely proportional to youth violence in the past few years. Ms. Lawrence later comments that Mass Effect portrays women as "objects of desire". In fact, the characters of Mass Effect at the very least as complex and interesting as the characters in modern televised drama, if not more so- this is not surprising, as Mass Effect is an RPG, a genre that focuses a great deal on characters. Of course, Ms. Lawrence ignorance is revealed to be due to the fact that she has never played the game.

It was commented how a very simple age input screen was all that was necessary to reach Mass Effect's website. This is the norm for all websites devoted to R rated movies or M rated games. The websites themselves do not contain any R rated or M rated material, thus the simple process.

A panelist commented that she wasn't sure why it didn't receive an AO rating. This rating is equivalent to the theatrical NC17 rating. Not only does Mass Effects PG-13 level sexual content not merit this rating, but any and all games released with an AO rating will not play on any video game console. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo, restrict access to AO games- it is impossible to play them on the XBox 360, Nintendo Wii, and Playstation 3.

Another panelist commented that Mass Effect is analogous to "Luke Skywalker meets Debbie does Dallas". As noted before, out of 30 hours of game-play, sex constitutes a 2minute cut scene. Mass Effect, like a great deal of modern releases, has an engaging story and strong, interesting characters. Video games are no longer like Pong or Pacman, with points or high scores as their ultimate goal- instead, they have become another narrative medium, at times just as effective as cinema or television.


Please, whenever you do a video game related segment in the future, consult informed individuals on the matter. Two very good resources I would recommend are gamepolitics.com, which covers most video game controversy, especially in relation to politics, and joystiq,com, which is possibly the most comprehensive video game news sight on the Internet, or at the very least have experts who have actually played the game in question.

[Name Removed], Fox News Viewer and occasional Video Game player.

pacofajita
01-23-2008, 04:13 PM
I don't watch Fox News, mainly because of it's overt slant to the right (but that's an argument for later), but I totally agree. It's bullsh!t to go on the air and say it's the root of our violence problems when most experts don't even play video games.

Matro
01-24-2008, 06:34 AM
Looks like EA also wrote them a letter.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200801/N08.0123.1614.36600.htm

Theshadow129x
01-24-2008, 08:51 AM
Yeah I was going to report this but you got to it first. This, I think, might actually start to make these stations and reporters to think things through differently whenever it comes to covering topics on video games.

The Ninth Doctor
01-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Adam Sessler is the man, for he too has responded: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/26/gamers-wage-war-on-mass-effect-bashers-book-garner-apology/

pacofajita
01-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Adam Sessler kicks ass. A liberal after my own heart. I'd party with him any day.

Kiltak
04-19-2008, 06:30 AM
I had to laugh at this, I think that was so funny that I have tears come down my eyes. You know every kid (especially teenage boys) will have seen a porn movie or looked at a porn magazine before they leave high school, its part of growing up. In fact I think its a right of passage when you get right down to it. Thats just part of growing up.

Look no child should be playing Mass Effect granted, but then no child should be in a postion to be able to buy it and if they are then its there parents fault. Parents should go with there children in to a game store and tell them what they can and can't by. Any teenager who has the money because they have a job is going to be mature enough to handle anything a game is going to have in it, and more then likely are going to have seen stuff that is more Hardcore.

You know I love all these so called experts that try and link violence to games. What they fail to realize is that 99% of the gamers out there are the least likely to committe violent acts and do you wan to know why...because there to busy sitting at home playing video games. The very idea that playing games breeds violence is just idiotic on so many levels.

That whole fox story was so bias that it wasn't even funny, the one expert they had on defending the game was kicked off and given less time, all because he made them look stupid. How can you speak out something you have never played your self.

I find this whole thing funny.

UDStyle
04-19-2008, 03:22 PM
That was one of the most ignorant segments I have ever seen on Fox News (Which is saying a lot).

But this is typical. The media inducing fear into the consumer public. It's nothing new and will continue.