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[xrayvision]

Is there any way the display of the forums could be narrowed so we don't have to scroll right & left to look at the views? Maybe the thread title column could be narrowed down and a wrap feature could be added to widen the row so longer thread titles could fit. Just a suggestion. My screen resolution is at 1024x768 (the max on my computer) and having to scroll left & right is somewhat annoying.

[jw0ollard]

Are you using IE? I'm on a Mac right now and having a hard time figuring out what is wrong with the forums.

I'd advise using Firefox until I figure it out. It's kind of hard though, since I haven't even changed anything.

[jw0ollard]

Yeah... I honestly can't tell what's causing this in IE. I have no issues and there are no errors that should be causing this.

Funny thing is that I haven't even changed any of the style yet.... *sigh*

[xrayvision]

Are you using IE? I'm on a Mac right now and having a hard time figuring out what is wrong with the forums.

I'd advise using Firefox until I figure it out. It's kind of hard though, since I haven't even changed anything.

Yeah, I am using IE. Another thing that's giving me problems is the Display options. In the Smallville General Discussion forum, I went down to the "From The" field and changed it from "Last Day" to "Beginning" and every time I come back to the Smallville General Discussion forum, it goes back to "Last Day". Never had this problem before. I'm sure the same thing will happen if I try the Speculation forum or Episode Discussion forum.

I also don't see the custom user text anymore next to anyone's usernames and their status (like Forum Yoda, Complete Maniac, New in Town, etc).

[xrayvision]

Also, it doesn't show the names of the users at the top of the forum anymore. I'm not sure if that was taken out purposely or not. All it says is the number of users online in the forum.

[jw0ollard]

1) Those are only sort options.. You can't save them.

2) I haven't added it back in. It's not as if YOU are the only one who can't see it. :)

[pacofajita]

I'm using Firefox, and this new format is DEFINITELY going to take some getting used to. :\

[jw0ollard]

Also, it doesn't show the names of the users at the top of the forum anymore. I'm not sure if that was taken out purposely or not. All it says is the number of users online in the forum.

I'm not sure what you mean, but if you're talking about "Who's Online" anywhere else other than Forum Home it's been removed on purpose. (It's too hard on the server)

[jw0ollard]

I'm using Firefox, and this new format is DEFINITELY going to take some getting used to. :\
Not very descriptive, is it? It's default 3.x and I haven't touched anything (other than the color).

If you read the announcement you'll see this is an ongoing process and not the final product. :) If you still think it is too wide, you may be one of the 5% of people who still have a computer with 800x600 resolution or smaller.

If you would like to try again and be a little more descriptive next time, I'd appreciate it.

[xrayvision]

1) Those are only sort options.. You can't save them.

I don't understand. Up until this change, it used to always show all the posts by default and not just the ones from the last day. The only time I remember seeing the sort options change (where it didn't show you all the posts since the Beginning) was for forums that have been inactive (like old episode or old season forums). And for those inactive forums, it showed the posts from the last 30 days. What caused this to change for the active forums?

[jw0ollard]

I don't understand. Up until this change, it used to always show all the posts by default and not just the ones from the last day. The only time I remember seeing the sort options change (where it didn't show you all the posts since the Beginning) was for forums that have been inactive (like old episode or old season forums). And for those inactive forums, it showed the posts from the last 30 days. What caused this to change for the active forums?

You're actually wrong. A lot of the forums have always been set to only show the past 30 days.

We have not changed any forums to only show the past day since the upgrade.

[xrayvision]

Another suggestion:

It was much more user friendly (easier to see & find threads I was looking for) having a seperate column for the thread starter than having it be so small under the thread title.

[Nospam]

Wow, what a difference. The full screen editor is freaking awesome! There are a few problems though; the ten character minimum post requirement plays havoc with "the countdown thread" and "one word to describe yourself" thread, among others. Also, you can no longer see how many times your profile has been viewed.

All in all, this is a worthwhile upgrade. I love most of the changes, although it will take time to get used to them.

[TMLS]

Hi, I've a question too but may as well lump it in here.

Can a user change the skin being used? That black/grey lines background is really playing havoc with my eyes (I suffer from migraine aurae)...

[jw0ollard]

Wow, what a difference. The full screen editor is freaking awesome! There are a few problems though. The ten character minimum post requirement plays havoc with "the countdown thread" and "one word to describe yourself" thread. Also, you can no longer see how many times your profile has been viewed.

All in all, this is a worthwhile upgrade. I love most of the changes, although it will take time to get used to them.


1) Thanks.. I forgot about the character minimum. (It's defaulted to 10 in vB 3.x.)

2) I think the profile views may have been a hack that was done on 2.x.... But we most likely won't reimplement them until the upgrade to 3.7 (whenever it comes out) as this is there by default, AND keeps a nice list of the last visitors. :)

[xrayvision]

You're actually wrong. A lot of the forums have always been set to only show the past 30 days.

We have not changed any forums to only show the past day since the upgrade.

So does this mean that the General Forum from now on will only show threads from the last day by default? That is one forum that I suggest should be left at "Beginning" than "Last Day". As for the others, I think a "last 30 days" as a default is reasonable. But if you guys have other plans, then I guess it's a bummer for me.

[jw0ollard]

Another suggestion:

It was much more user friendly (easier to see & find threads I was looking for) having a seperate column for the thread starter than having it be so small under the thread title.
Sorry, it's this way in 3.x and I don't plan on changing it. There are already too many columns on the forum displays. :)

[jw0ollard]

So does this mean that the General Forum from now on will only show threads from the last day by default? That is one forum that I suggest should be left at "Beginning" than "Last Day". As for the others, I think a "last 30 days" as a default is reasonable. But if you guys have other plans, then I guess it's a bummer for me.
I'm looking into it.. We didn't actively change anything. It must have screwed up during the upgrade.

[xrayvision]

I'm looking into it.. We didn't actively change anything. It must have screwed up during the upgrade.

OK. I'm hoping this will be fixed. This & the wide display (resulting in the need to scroll left & right) are the 2 things that if fixed will make navigating the forums much better.

Thanks.

[Nospam]

Something else I noticed is that the user ranks are gone, along with the custom user text. Will this be fixed?

Thanks for all the hard work.

[xrayvision]

Something else I noticed is that the user ranks are gone, along with the custom user text. Will this be fixed?

Thanks for all the hard work.

Yeah, he said these were taken out & will be brought back eventually.

[jw0ollard]

OK. I'm hoping this will be fixed. This & the wide display (resulting in the need to scroll left & right) are the 2 things that if fixed will make navigating the forums much better.

Thanks.There is no "if fixed" RE: Internet Explorer messing up. I'm trying my hardest to figure out the problem, but according to everything I'm looking at there is none.

Since you seem to be active in this thread and have IE, can you tell me what all pages the tables jut off the page on?

[Nospam]

Yeah, he said these were taken out & will be brought back eventually.

Oops! I missed that post. Sorry.


There is no "if fixed" RE: Internet Explorer messing up. I'm trying my hardest to figure out the problem, but according to everything I'm looking at there is none.

Since you seem to be active in this thread and have IE, can you tell me what all pages the tables jut off the page on?

Looks fine to me in IE, but I have a 1280 x 1024 display and I run Firefox as my default browser.

[xrayvision]

The "Last Day" thing in the General Discussion page was fixed and it's now at "Last Month". The Smallville Season 7 forum is slightly messed up if you look at the spot Blue is supposed to be at.

I will check the pages and let you know about the ones that are wide enough where I have to scroll (if this is what you're asking me to check).

[jw0ollard]

Hi, I've a question too but may as well lump it in here.

Can a user change the skin being used? That black/grey lines background is really playing havoc with my eyes (I suffer from migraine aurae)...

I think I missed this post with all the havoc.. :)

Your best bet is to block the background image with Firefox... Sorry. :o Is it really that different from the dark blue background that preceded it? I can hardly see the lines.

[xrayvision]

Looks like it's been fixed. No more scrolling needed.

[xrayvision]

Another question,

Will the total number of posts be added next to the post number? It used to say Post # x of y. That "y" isn't there anymore. It made it easier to know if there was another post below if someone was scrolled halfway in a thread.

[jw0ollard]

Looks like it's been fixed. No more scrolling needed.

Still doesn't explain why IE was having such a hard time doing something very very simple.. :) I removed what was doing it for now, until I figure out why exactly IE is the only piece of crap not showing it right. There weren't even any HTML errors to go on. *shrug*

[Nospam]

What about those members that speak French?

[xrayvision]

The season 7 forum is still screwed up with the Blue thread:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3576/sample5ok3.png

[jw0ollard]

What about those members that speak French?

Am I missing something? :)


The season 5 forum is still screwed up with the Blue thread:

I really don't know what you're talking about.. haha. What Blue thread? And I thought you said Season 7. A link would be appreciated.

[xrayvision]

A link to a screenshot I posted is in post #30 of 31. I meant to say season 7.

[jw0ollard]

Fixed. I replied before the screenshot, so thanks for that.

*Prepares to yell at Craig when he gets back from meeting the stars of Terminator*

(it was something he did) haha. :)

[xrayvision]

Does the multi quote feature allow you to quote each paragraph seperately? If it does, then that is a great feature. It used to be such a pain doing that.

[TMLS]

I think I missed this post with all the havoc.. :)

Your best bet is to block the background image with Firefox... Sorry. :o Is it really that different from the dark blue background that preceded it? I can hardly see the lines.

It's different enough that it's hurting my eyes. I'm getting by with it now but obviously better without it!

Have added http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/bg.gif to my Adblock list, and now have a white background. I should have thought of that ;)

Still got it on the title bar mind, but can live witht that.

Thanks!

:)

[jw0ollard]

Does the multi quote feature allow you to quote each paragraph seperately? If it does, then that is a great feature. It used to be such a pain doing that.
Yes. You can also use the "Quick Reply" and then hit "Quote Message in Reply" for a SINGLE quote, instead of going to the full-on editor page.

Just click each posts Multi-Quote button and then hit "Post Reply". They should all be in the post editor box. :)

[jw0ollard]

It's different enough that it's hurting my eyes. I'm getting by with it now but obviously better without it!

Have added http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/bg.gif to my Adblock list, and now have a white background. I should have thought of that ;)

Still got it on the title bar mind, but can live witht that.

Thanks!

:)
That's funny, because that's exactly what I MEANT to tell you, but I figured you'd either a) not know what I was talking about, or b) not have Firefox.

:)

[TMLS]

And there was me thinking you could tell what browser I was using! ;)

[jw0ollard]

And there was me thinking you could tell what browser I was using! ;)
Oh, well I can, but it'd mean me navigating somewhere else that I wouldn't want to go. :)


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11

If it didn't already say so in your location, and in the colloquialisms I've seen you use, I'd also be able to tell from that ^ that you're British! =p :)

Although I'm truly saddened by the amount of IE6 users. :(

[TMLS]

Well, I did ensure I spelt "Grey" the proper way ;)

[Nospam]

Well, I did ensure I spelt "Grey" the proper way ;)

Now you only have to learn about underlining the proper way.

I kid!

:p

By the way, I experience highlighting issues all the time in Firefox. :(

[jw0ollard]

Well, I did ensure I spelt "Grey" the proper way ;)
Well, it was in vain, since I spell it grey as well. :)

[jw0ollard]

Now you only have to learn about underlining the proper way.

I kid!

:p

By the way, I experience highlighting issues all the time in Firefox. :(

Highlighting what? Specifically here or just everywhere? I don't seem to have any issues with Firefox. Although, SOMEtimes the cursor doesn't show up in the new reply box. Very rare though.

In case anyone has noticed, you can also change the size of the Quick reply and Reply boxes with the Up/Down arrows in the top right corner. :)

[TMLS]

Now you only have to learn about underlining the proper way.

LOL, I asked for that!


Well, it was in vain, since I spell it grey as well.

And that...

[Nospam]

Highlighting what? Specifically here or just everywhere? I don't seem to have any issues with Firefox. Although, SOMEtimes the cursor doesn't show up in the new reply box. Very rare though.[/B]

Everywhere in Firefox. Double clicking on a word to highlight it often causes Firefox to highlight the trailing space as well, but the problem only seems to occur with certain words. It's also wont to highlight the line below the end of a paragraph when your intent is to highlight the paragraph only. It's very annoying, especially when IE does not exhibit this behavior. Score one for MS.

I love the new full screen editor, and it's so easy to bold, underline and italicize now with [CONTROL][B], [CONTROL][U], and [CONTROL][i] on any highlighted selection, just like in Word.

[jw0ollard]

Everywhere in Firefox. Double clicking on a word to highlight it often causes Firefox to highlight the trailing space as well, but the problem only seems to occur with certain words. It's also wont to highlight the line below the end of a paragraph when your intent is to highlight the paragraph only. It's very annoying, especially when IE does not exhibit this behavior. Score one for MS.

I love the new full screen editor, and it's so easy to bold, underline and italicize now with [CONTROL][B], [CONTROL][U], and [CONTROL][i] on any highlighted selection, just like in Word.
Yup. And CTRL-B/I/U even works on Macs too! (Good thing Apple has the Apple/Cmd key for all the browser shortcuts. :))

[xrayvision]

Is there any way of blocking out the last post feature for the Spoiler/Speculation thread link in the main Smallville forum? There are spoilers with thread titles that give away things that I don't want to know. I avoid the spoiler forum for that reason, but with the last post being shown (if the last post between the Speculation & Spoiler forums happens to be from the Spoiler forum), the episodes get ruined anyway because you can see what people are posting as their title threads.

[jw0ollard]

Well that has to do more with enforcing rules on how to name the thread titles in that section. I assume the people posting spoilers in titles are breaking the rules. You should probably ask somebody else about making sure the rules get enforced (since I'm not dealing with any rules or moderation. :))

[xrayvision]

Well that has to do more with enforcing rules on how to name the thread titles in that section. I assume the people posting spoilers in titles are breaking the rules. You should probably ask somebody else about making sure the rules get enforced (since I'm not dealing with any rules or moderation. :))

Well, I'll see what I can do. I just think that this is going to be a recurring problem because of how tough it will be to enforce.

[D.M. Wyatt]

Sorting threads by number of views doesn't appear to work.... in the adult forum if you click on views, it skips some that I know where in the 90k range (my story Subject, for example).

Also, before I logged in at the top of the forum page, register was cut off a bit by the login in button.

So it reads like "login gister" and to log out, I had to click logout twice...

Oh, and sorting by thread starter doesn't bring up all of my stories, only the last three...

[jw0ollard]

For some reason after the upgrade all the cutoff dates were reset to "From the Last Day" down in the sorting options.

So.. To fix this I set them all to 30 days. I'll go ahead and just set all threads to NEVER cutoff then, and hope Craig isn't mad at me or something. :)

But to answer your question they ARE there, you just have to change the sorting options (until I fix it)

[D.M. Wyatt]

For some reason after the upgrade all the cutoff dates were reset to "From the Last Day" down in the sorting options.

So.. To fix this I set them all to 30 days. I'll go ahead and just set all threads to NEVER cutoff then, and hope Craig isn't mad at me or something. :)

But to answer your question they ARE there, you just have to change the sorting options (until I fix it)

Thanks, always want people to be able to find my stories if they're looking for them.

Other than those problems, the new forums look great but I would like a greater number of built in smilies if possible...

[Nospam]

I see the new forum still enforces a limit of 30 seconds between posts. I thought that was going to change with the upgrade?

[xrayvision]

It also seems like anytime I reply to a thread, it subscribes me to the thread by sending me email notifications & floods my email. This happened when I started this thread and even when I did a quick reply to the thread title "Favorite Character Game" in the General Discussion Forum. I don't think it happened in the Other TV Shows forum when I posted something in the Knight Rider (2008) thread.

[jw0ollard]

It also seems like anytime I reply to a thread, it subscribes me to the thread by sending me email notifications & floods my email. This happened when I started this thread and even when I did a quick reply to the thread title "Favorite Character Game" in the General Discussion Forum. I don't think it happened in the Other TV Shows forum when I posted something in the Knight Rider (2008) thread.
This isn't anything new. That has been ongoing for the last 5 years. :) Not saying you were making it sound like MY problem, but I'm aware of it, and I've actually set the default (when a person registers) to "No Email" now. I also tried running a query to set the default back to "No Email" for all current users, but for some reason I'm not sure it took.

[KSiteTV]

So.. To fix this I set them all to 30 days. I'll go ahead and just set all threads to NEVER cutoff then, and hope Craig isn't mad at me or something. :)

I actually like the idea of the threads not cutting off. :)

[Nospam]

I actually like the idea of the threads not cutting off. :)

It was confusing for some, like me, who went three years before I figured out you could alter the post cutoff at the bottom of the thread/forum. :(

Actually, I think it was you, Craig, that explained what was wrong.

How soon before we get our user ranks back? I am sooooooooo close to 10,000 posts. :)

[KSiteTV]

I think Jon wants to be sure to get the "functional" tweaks fixed first... things like the menu at the top of the page, and some navigational things. Once that's fixed stuff like user ranks and all that will probably be taken care of.

[Nospam]

Sounds good. Jon, don't forget to check the EPS conduits for integrity and the deuterium injectors. They always seem to require adjustment after a refit of this magnitude.

[pacofajita]

Will there be a way to skin the forum back to the old style?

[KSiteTV]

Will there be a way to skin the forum back to the old style?

I doubt it. The version of vbulletin we'd used for years was seriously outdated... from 2002 or 2003 (I'm not joking!) I'm not big on change that much myself (which could explain all this time of never upgrading), but I think that for the most part all of these things will become easy to get used to.

[Nospam]

I think it looks great. I am already used to most of the changes thanks to experience I have on newer versions of vBulletin on other boards.

By the way, I LOVE the new graphic banner at the top. It looks very, very cool and professional. It sort of reminds me of the new Dock in Leopard.

[FotW]

It's fine with me, I like the new look. I think the forum interface and skin looks way better! I love the enhanced quick reply window. And the new post editor actually works properly in Firefox and I like all the extras to make formatting easier!
Thanks for the upgrade! Now, if we had a "thumbs up" smilie I'd use it. :lol:

[triplet]

It's fine with me, I like the new look. I think the forum interface and skin looks way better! I love the enhanced quick reply window. And the new post editor actually works properly in Firefox and I like all the extras to make formatting easier!
Thanks for the upgrade! Now, if we had a "thumbs up" smilie I'd use it. :lol:

You know, I'd like more smilies too... I use the :thumbsup: smilie a lot on other forums, so the addition of that would be good...

Oh, and after I logged in from the navigation bar, it redirected me to the forum index instead of taking me back to the forum I was in.

I would rather it have left me where I was, but it's nice that the login is at the top of every page now.

:thumbsup:

;) :D

[jw0ollard]

Will there be a way to skin the forum back to the old style?
*Confused*

Isn't this the old style?? 95% of everything is unchanged. :)

[superhippie2000]

*Confused*

Isn't this the old style?? 95% of everything is unchanged. :)
kind looks like the old style but guess they mean the way the threads are set up and the icons. otherwise it pretty much looks the same.

[pacofajita]

*Confused*

Isn't this the old style?? 95% of everything is unchanged. :)

It doesn't look anything like the old style. The colors are similar, but the comparison stops there. I should take a screen shot.

[PaleBlueDot]

Please add youtube BBCode so vidders can post their fanvids in posts.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199304

Example: http://sva.svfan.com/index.php?topic=51.0

[jw0ollard]

It doesn't look anything like the old style. The colors are similar, but the comparison stops there. I should take a screen shot.

What are you smoking? The banner may be different but the colors ARE EXACT (I've used the same ones) and even used some of the old buttons from 2.x. :rolleyes:

[pacofajita]

That's not my point. And besides, the color isn't the problem. With the exceptions of the colors and a few buttons, he entire layout of the board looks different.

And you may be a mod, but please don't insult me by saying I'm smoking something.

[KSiteTV]

There are some minor changes to the style but aside from a few minor general layout things, it's virtually the same.

Like I said, I'm usually the oldest of old fuddy-duddies when it comes to change (I'm still trying to convince Jon I want to keep the same color scheme for posts)... but this is the more modern, better way of doing things. I'm sure within a few days you'll totally be used to it. They're just minor cosmetic changes.

[pacofajita]

http://pics.livejournal.com/clark_kent_ua/pic/0007zgb9

This is how it looks for me. With the exceptions of the color and some of the buttons, it's totally different from the old board.

[jw0ollard]

This is how it looks for me. With the exceptions of the color and some of the buttons, it's totally different from the old board.
You must have been browsing a different forum.

[pacofajita]

Dude, why are you so rude? We're all thankful for the work you've done, but with our input in this beta thread, it helps you work out the kinks to make the transition as smooth as possible. That's all I'm trying to do.

[KSiteTV]

With the exceptions of the color and some of the buttons, it's totally different from the old board.

I don't really like to push away a poster, but if you are that against the general setup of the board maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

I really don't see the changes as that drastic.

I know there have been sites I liked that did upgrades and I'd complain and hem and haw but I eventually got used to it.

[jw0ollard]

Dude, why are you so rude? We're all thankful for the work you've done, but with our input in this beta thread, it helps you work out the kinks to make the transition as smooth as possible. That's all I'm trying to do.
I don't really see your point as we're not TRYING to make this look like the old forum. And actually, far from it. I have some nice plans for this board and some people (like you) apparently aren't going to like it very much.

As this is only a "transitional" style, it's the default vBulletin 3.x layout with a few changes to replicate the old style as closely as possible, to keep the hate-mongers at bay. I'm not concerned with how closely it replicates the old boards and neither should you be.

[pacofajita]

I don't really like to push away a poster, but if you are that against the general setup of the board maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

I really don't see the changes as that drastic.

I know there have been sites I liked that did upgrades and I'd complain and hem and haw but I eventually got used to it.

Craig, sorry if it seems like I'm against it. But I was under the impression the board was just undergoing a facelift. I like the old style, which is what's appealing about this style, because it's so similar, but I'm just pointing out how it's different.

Yes, I think it would be cool to keep the old style around, but I'm not gnashing against it.

[PaleBlueDot]

Not sure whats up, but every now and then in short posts this happens....

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2737/picture2tn5.th.png (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture2tn5.png)

Then I hit reload and it works fine.

[triplet]

I asked the site to remember me when I logged in and when I came back, it didn't.

I had to login again.

So I guess the cookies aren't working?

:confused:

[Spirit Detective]

Yay, "currently active users" is back...but wasn't it alphabetized before?

[PaleBlueDot]

Can you make it so that voting in a poll doesn't bump a thread so we can end voting spam?

[jw0ollard]

Not sure whats up, but every now and then in short posts this happens....

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2737/picture2tn5.th.png (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture2tn5.png)

Then I hit reload and it works fine.

Odd. I haven't even touched the postbits, and I'm certain that vBulletin coded them correctly for all major browsers. (vBulletin is the most-used forum software ever afterall..) What are you using?


I asked the site to remember me when I logged in and when I came back, it didn't.

I had to login again.

So I guess the cookies aren't working?

:confused:

I've had one other report of this. Just clear your cookies entirely. It's most likely your browser's fault. :)

[FotW]

Are you guys putting the various series' creative endeavors forums into one main creative forum at this time? If so, can there possibly be a fan art challenge sub-forum added, too?

[PaleBlueDot]

Odd. I haven't even touched the postbits, and I'm certain that vBulletin coded them correctly for all major browsers. (vBulletin is the most-used forum software ever afterall..) What are you using?

Using Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Leopard. I dunno, may have been something weird got cached, i cleared it it hasn't happened since.

[Nospam]

Will we be able to take this baby past warp 5.5 or is that the limit to the new bird?

[Khyla]

HELP! How do I find the last threads I posted in to see if there were any replies? ( i was used to just going into my profile and seeing the last posts I've made --or using "Search" which isn't working right now--)
sorry if this was already covered but i've been reading thru here and haven't found it.

[Nospam]

Khyla, click "User CP" at the top of the page (where you access the user control panel), then click "Subscribed Threads." Any subscribed threads that contain a new post will be listed chronologically, and unread threads will be in bold.

Hope that helps. :)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Help!!!

I don't like that we can't directly see attached pictures anymore.....
:(
As an example, go to my 'art' thread (you will find the link in my profile), where I usually post my old avis. They always used to be directly visible, which was convenient so I didn't have to upload them to an image hosting site, and post a link...... Can we re-introduce that feature again??? PLEASE!!!

It sucks when people can't see the pics..... Makes my entire thread worthless.
:(

[superhippie2000]

http://pics.livejournal.com/clark_kent_ua/pic/0007zgb9

This is how it looks for me. With the exceptions of the color and some of the buttons, it's totally different from the old board.
ya thats how mine is but mine scrolls on the bottom. of course it dont make it full screen and different browsers have it different ways.

[SparkleforSmallville]

ya thats how mine is but mine scrolls on the bottom. of course it dont make it full screen and different browsers have it different ways.

Yeah, mine too. I have a Mac OSX 10.4 using Safari {I'm fairly new to Computers} The wide black/gray margin, bothers me for some reason, so I bring it in narrower. this doesn't affect the size of the forum page. Still the words seem alot smaller, even before making the border narrower Will I have to make the text bigger every time I log on? I just bought a wider screen, so maybe it is my imagination:o

I do really like the upgrade, "Teaching an old dog new tricks", you know:\

When I return to my Yahoo home page the Text is Huge!

[STFanatic]

What I know about a Mac can fit right here ~~~~> * <~~~~~

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^^ :lol:Thanks anyway Steve:)

[Nospam]

To answer your question, yes, you would. When you change text size in Safari it applies to all web sites. The text size hasn't changed at all, just the border that surrounds the forum web page.

[jw0ollard]

Help!!!

I don't like that we can't directly see attached pictures anymore.....
:(
As an example, go to my 'art' thread (you will find the link in my profile), where I usually post my old avis. They always used to be directly visible, which was convenient so I didn't have to upload them to an image hosting site, and post a link...... Can we re-introduce that feature again??? PLEASE!!!

It sucks when people can't see the pics..... Makes my entire thread worthless.
:(

A little melodramatic? :) But anyway, I didn't intentionally turn the thumbnail previews off. When I performed the test upgrade a few days ago, attachments showed up as thumbnails just fine. *shrug* I'll get it fixed.


Yeah, mine too. I have a Mac OSX 10.4 using Safari {I'm fairly new to Computers} The wide black/gray margin, bothers me for some reason, so I bring it in narrower. this doesn't affect the size of the forum page. Still the words seem alot smaller, even before making the border narrower Will I have to make the text bigger every time I log on? I just bought a wider screen, so maybe it is my imagination:o

I do really like the upgrade, "Teaching an old dog new tricks", you know:\

When I return to my Yahoo home page the Text is Huge!

The text size has NOT changed. Almost all font sizes on these pages are 10pt which is equivalent to 12px, and 12px is the most standard font size on the web. HOWEVER, I will say that my Mac doesn't like keeping the same size for INPUT boxes (like the login) but I am using Firefox and not Safari.

However there is this:
Points are for Print

Many Web designers have gotten into the bad habit of using point sizes to define their font sizes on the screen. But points are a print unit of measure, and the Web is usually viewed on the screen. This means that when you specify 14-point type, it might display much larger or smaller than you expect. The most common place this is noticed is between Macintosh and Windows. Macintosh typically displays things almost 25% smaller than the same page on Windows.

It's vBulletin's fault for using points instead of pixels, but the funny thing is YES, I'm on a Mac, but I definitely don't have this "tiny text" problem. I actually think the text here is way too large.

[Nospam]

A couple more things to add to your list, Jon. Is there any plan to eliminate the 30 second delay between successive posts? Also, searches are still limited to one every 60 seconds, and that is incredibly annoying when you are trying to find a particular post.

As for text size, I access K-Site both at home and work using Macs and PCs and I can confirm that the text size has not changed between the old version and the new, just the border around the forum web page has changed.

Thanks for all the hard work. :)

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Well, the 30 second rule ends up being a lot shorter than 30 seconds for me, but it seems like it catches you less now than it did before.

[CLSmith]

Are you working on restoring the Custom text under our screennames?

But that's a minor quibble, I'm digging the vbulletin, a definite step up!

-cs™

[Nospam]

Well, the 30 second rule ends up being a lot shorter than 30 seconds for me, but it seems like it catches you less now than it did before.

I guess 30 seconds just feels longer for a man. :lol:

[jw0ollard]

A couple more things to add to your list, Jon. Is there any plan to eliminate the 30 second delay between successive posts? Also, searches are still limited to one every 60 seconds, and that is incredibly annoying when you are trying to find a particular post.

As for text size, I access K-Site both at home and work using Macs and PCs and I can confirm that the text size has not changed between the old version and the new, just the border around the forum web page has changed.

Thanks for all the hard work. :)
It's not so much that there's a "border" as the site is now fixed width. We had to put a cap on the width mainly because readability and usability goes down after a certain width. Things are too stretched out, and too hard to read. I personally have a 1920x1200 monitor and if I were to have to browse the old Ksite, in fullscreen, I'd probably shoot myself. :)

As for flood prevention (the delays), I really don't think they'll be getting any lower for awhile. Because:

a) The search is basically unusable (we only re-indexed about 1/10th of the old posts) so the only stuff that's really searchable is from the past few days. So there's not going to be much need to lower the search limit until there is stuff to search.

b) Why do you need to post more than once every 30 seconds? Basically, for me, that would include typing a reply, going back to the new reply window, and tapping wildly on my keyboard and then clicking "Post Reply". That's about the only way I could possibly post twice under 30 seconds.

c) It's VERY important there are limits to searching and posting on a board of this size. Using the search actually causes delays with posting, and vice versa. If we don't put caps on it the board would become unusable. And the more active your board is, the more often a search is going to cause a problem with somebody trying to post at the same time.

I know my simplistic explanation in c) might be a little hard to swallow, but if you really want to get me talking about MySQL and table locking and all these other scary things I can. :)

(We're actually looking at a new search engine that will FIX this problem entirely, btw -- not saying it is going to happen, though.)

[SparkleforSmallville]

So, should I change my font size or just re adjust{click on View at the top of my screen>"Make Text Bigger"} each time? My eyes aren't as good as they used to be:lol: but the print I see on the forums is definitely smaller.

If I change the font size, then will it be too big everywhere else? Sorry, I'm new to computers. I appreciate your feedback:)

I recently bought a new widescreen and had to change the resolution to 1440 x900 for my 19". Could that have changed the print size here?

[Nospam]

It's not so much that there's a "border" as the site is now fixed width. We had to put a cap on the width mainly because readability and usability goes down after a certain width. Things are too stretched out, and too hard to read. I personally have a 1920x1200 monitor and if I were to have to browse the old Ksite, in fullscreen, I'd probably shoot myself. :)

Yes, a lot of websites have gone to a fixed width. Thanks for the explanation.


b) Why do you need to post more than once every 30 seconds? Basically, for me, that would include typing a reply, going back to the new reply window, and tapping wildly on my keyboard and then clicking "Post Reply". That's about the only way I could possibly post twice under 30 seconds.

My problem is I type about 90 words a minute sober, so I guess I will just have to live with it like I did on the old forum.


I know my simplistic explanation in c) might be a little hard to swallow, but if you really want to get me talking about MySQL and table locking and all these other scary things I can. :)

(We're actually looking at a new search engine that will FIX this problem entirely, btw -- not saying it is going to happen, though.)

As a computer professional myself I understand there are technical limitations. :)

[jw0ollard]

So, should I change my font size or just re adjust{click on View at the top of my screen>"Make Text Bigger"} each time? My eyes aren't as good as they used to be:lol: but the print I see on the forums is definitely smaller.

If I change the font size, then will it be too big everywhere else? Sorry, I'm new to computers. I appreciate your feedback:)

I recently bought a new widescreen and had to change the resolution to 1440 x900 for my 19". Could that have changed the print size here?
I'd like to see a screenshot if you would, please. I really don't believe it's smaller for you. I can't really say that any better way, but I'm on a Mac as well and the text is as big as ever. (People also have a funny way of unconsciously blaming something on an upgrade when it has been there all along -- fact of life. :))

In fact I can tell you straight away that the usernames in the posts are certainly bigger than before. And the size of the post text is enormous, to me at least. (And again I'm on a Mac, too).

"CMD +" (plus) and "CMD -" (minus) will resize text on a page for you. No need to go into the menus.

[KSiteTV]

Are you guys putting the various series' creative endeavors forums into one main creative forum at this time? If so, can there possibly be a fan art challenge sub-forum added, too?

You know, Randy G. (who's also a mod here) made the same suggestion a few months ago, and I liked the idea at the time, but the more I think about it, the more I think I would prefer to keep them separate for the individual shows. The individual sites link to the forums, and if people want say Terminator, I think I'd want them to find just/only the Terminator stuff.

There MAY be a way (though don't quote me on this, I've been wrong before) that eventually there could be a link-up between the forum threads so they'd be easy to navigate back and forth to one another... but that's just my own opinion right now.

And though I can't speak for Jon, the question has been asked several times before... the Custom User Text WILL be returning... it's just a much bigger priority to get the board functioning properly rather than the fun add-ons which can be done later.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Jon, Hmm, I'm not blaming the upgrade, I think it is fantastic! Good job:) I guess I'm trying to make it easier on myself to peruse the Ksite. Can't give you a screen shot, don't know how:\ But mine looks like the one on Pg 4. The usernames ARE bigger than the text.
My text is smaller,but we can agree to disagree about my text;) the CMD +or- is a great tip, I'll use that. Thanks:cool:

[KSiteTV]

Usually, hitting the "print screen" function and then pasting the screen shot into Photoshop or something and then saving as an image works. There's probably an easier way that I just don't know. :)

[FotW]

Thanks for the reply. I actually agree with that KryptonSite, it makes it easier to find the creative stuff from your favorite shows. Maybe in the future we can have a creative challenges sub-forum in either the Smallville or the general creative endeavors forum? I know you've got more pressing things to deal with now. (Also, I know we're not supposed to link to other boards, but you can look at lost-forum to see an example of what I'm thinking about.)

[Dracula]

Jon, Hmm, I'm not blaming the upgrade, I think it is fantastic! Good job:) I guess I'm trying to make it easier on myself to peruse the Ksite. Can't give you a screen shot, don't know how:\ But mine looks like the one on Pg 4. The usernames ARE bigger than the text.
My text is smaller,but we can agree to disagree about my text;) the CMD +or- is a great tip, I'll use that. Thanks:cool:

If you are taking a screen shot on a mac press: CMD & Shift & 3, Then upload the picture to a free image hosting site.

If you are taking a screen shot on a windows pc: Press PrintScreen then open up and image editor like MS Paint, paste the image and then save it, then upload.

Btw, don't know what the old site looked like but the new one looks great!

[KSiteTV]

Thanks for the reply. I actually agree with that KryptonSite, it makes it easier to find the creative stuff from your favorite shows. Maybe in the future we can have a creative challenges sub-forum in either the Smallville or the general creative endeavors forum? I know you've got more pressing things to deal with now. (Also, I know we're not supposed to link to other boards, but you can look at lost-forum to see an example of what I'm thinking about.)

I'm assuming you mean "creative challenges" across multiple fandoms at a time?

[PaleBlueDot]

Please add youtube BBCode so vidders can post their fanvids in posts.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199304

Example: http://sva.svfan.com/index.php?topic=51.0

Jon, would still like to know if you can add this feature, please. TY

[FotW]

I'm assuming you mean "creative challenges" across multiple fandoms at a time?
Yes, a sub-forum for all challenges that is multi-fandom forum would be nice, a place where we can post our polls and challenges instead of posting them in the general fan art forums. Right now, we move our polls around by fandom to the various creative forums - mainly we do ones for Smallville, Heroes, and Supernatural-and I announce the rounds in the Smallville forum where our stickied info thread is, (as you've probably seen) and it gets complicated. I was thinking it would be fun to have multiple fandom challenges where artists could use Prison Break, Smallville, Doctor Who, etc, in the same challenge,but there's really no place for it. And if other members wanted to run a challenge on their own for whatever fandom they want, it would be better to have them all in one place.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I'd like to see a screenshot if you would, please. I really don't believe it's smaller for you. I can't really say that any better way, but I'm on a Mac as well and the text is as big as ever. (People also have a funny way of unconsciously blaming something on an upgrade when it has been there all along -- fact of life. :))

In fact I can tell you straight away that the usernames in the posts are certainly bigger than before. And the size of the post text is enormous, to me at least. (And again I'm on a Mac, too).

Here's my screenshot, can you tell if it's smaller?:)

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/SparkleforSmallville/Picture1-1.png


{Yes, Nospam, that is your pic on my desktop!:D}





If you are taking a screen shot on a mac press: CMD & Shift & 3, Then upload the picture to a free image hosting site.
Thanks, Dracula;)

[jw0ollard]

Here's my screenshot, can you tell if it's smaller?:)

Full-size would have been nice, but I took a screenshot of the same exact page on mine and overlaid the two in Photoshop. There is quite literally NO difference in size.

ACTUALLY, your navbar text is larger!!! (The UserCP -- FAQ -- Search area) :)

So, I'm sorry to say this... but you're imagining things. haha. I'm quite positive the size of text is the exact same on mine as it was before. (I was able to run the "test upgrade" side-by-side with the live forums, which hadn't been upgraded yet)

[Nospam]

{Yes, Nospam, that is your pic on my desktop!:D}

I'm famous! :)

That's pretty cool.

No offense, but I don't see a difference either. The text is the same size for me in Firefox and Safari on my Mac. :(

Sorry.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Well, it's good to know my eyes are failing:lol: Thank you so much for y'alls help. You guys are GREAT! I learned some computer things also:cool::D

[STFanatic]

Well, it's good to know my eyes are failing:lol: Thank you so much for y'alls help. You guys are GREAT! I learned some computer things also:cool::D


Keeping in mind the minuscule amount of Mac knowledge I possess, have you tried stretching the browser screen wider?

Mine:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/Stuff/th_Clipboard01.gif (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/Stuff/Clipboard01.gif)

[jw0ollard]

Keeping in mind the minuscule amount of Mac knowledge I possess, have you tried stretching the browser screen wider?

Mine:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/Stuff/th_Clipboard01.gif (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/Stuff/Clipboard01.gif)
Haha. That wouldn't change her text size. :)

We turned her on to Apple-PLUS and Apple-MINUS though. (CTRL-Plus and CTRL-Minus in Windows)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yeah, and look! I discovered the colors. The upgrade is like a scavenger hunt:D

[jw0ollard]

Yeah, and look! I discovered the colors. The upgrade is like a scavenger hunt:D
That will change eventually. I plan on posting a few tutorials here. As well as removing/replacing the outdated ones.

[Nospam]

That will change eventually. I plan on posting a few tutorials here. As well as removing/replacing the outdated ones.

Excellent. I need a quick and dirty tutorial on how to extract weapons grade plutonium-239 from fissionable uranium-235. I've been using a home built cyclotron for the purpose, but the process is proving to be exceedingly tedious. Any ideas how can I speed the reaction?

[SparkleforSmallville]

Jon, that would be great!

To help others, I went to Edit Options and scrolled to Message Editor Interface. I opted from Basic, to Standard Editor and got the colors, which is a big A [thanks STFanatic}. I may try the Enhanced, after i figure out the Standard ones.
Jon, you Rock!

Nospam,.... Plutonium?:eek:

[jw0ollard]

Excellent. I need a quick and dirty tutorial on how to extract weapons grade plutonium-239 from fissionable uranium-235. I've been using a home built cyclotron for the purpose, but the process is proving to be exceedingly tedious. Any ideas how can I speed the reaction?
Well heat is always a good catalyst. If you could somehow create a nuclear reaction to generate the heat needed that'd be great.

A flux capacitor could always work, too.

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Jon, that would be great!
To help others, I went to Edit Options and scrolled to Message Editor Interface. I opted from Basic, to Standard Editor and got the colors, which is a big A [thanks STFanatic}. I may try the Enhanced, after i figure out the Standard ones. Jon, you Rock!
The default should have been Enhanced?

[SparkleforSmallville]

If you mean that it should have been set to Enhanced, it wasn't it was set on Basic. I don't even know how I figured it out! It's all Kryptonian to me:) But I'm learning.

[Nospam]

Well heat is always a good catalyst. If you could somehow create a nuclear reaction to generate the heat needed that'd be great.

A flux capacitor could always work, too.

Awesome! You do have all the answers. :)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

A little melodramatic? :) But anyway, I didn't intentionally turn the thumbnail previews off. When I performed the test upgrade a few days ago, attachments showed up as thumbnails just fine. *shrug* I'll get it fixed.

Of course I am melodramatic, hello!!!
:lol:
Thanks for answering..... Please fix.

[triplet]

Usually, hitting the "print screen" function and then pasting the screen shot into Photoshop or something and then saving as an image works. There's probably an easier way that I just don't know. :)

In Windows, clicking "printscreen" gives you the entire desktop.

If you want just the active window captured, you do alt-printscreen... It'll copy the capture to your clipboard and then all you gotta do is paste it into whatever image program you want.

You copy just the active window, then you don't have to trim the excess in Photoshop or Paint or whatever.

FYI

I have no idea how to do it on a mac, not that it appears like it matters anymore anyway...

:o

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I've had one other report of this. Just clear your cookies entirely. It's most likely your browser's fault. :)

Yeah, I think you're right...

It works fine on the kids mac, but that isn't my laptop. Stupid PC.

*sigh*

Oh, well...

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The default should have been Enhanced?

Mine was set to basic too, but I gotta say I LOVE the automerge thingy and the way it works now, with the little time stamp (added 12 minutes later, or whatever!)

Awesome!

:D

Still would like more smilies, however...

;)

[KSiteTV]

Other than those problems, the new forums look great but I would like a greater number of built in smilies if possible...

I would think if we're making any changes regarding smilies we might end up eliminating some of them... some posters tend to go overboard with them. I'd especially love to get rid of that rolling smiley.

[Nospam]

I would think if we're making any changes regarding smilies we might end up eliminating some of them... some posters tend to go overboard with them. I'd especially love to get rid of that rolling smiley.

You should replace it with a crazy, frowning clown icon. That would really throw people off.

[D.M. Wyatt]

I would think if we're making any changes regarding smilies we might end up eliminating some of them... some posters tend to go overboard with them. I'd especially love to get rid of that rolling smiley.

I HATE the rolling smilie and I hate how overboard some people get with them so I'd be fine with that.

:thumbsup: <---mentally insert a smilie there...

;) :D

[jw0ollard]

Actually, I'd like to set a cap on smilies per post.. I think we may start a war by doing that, though. (Even if it's in the freaking rules that people can't go overboard on smilies and ignore it anyway)

[TMLS]

I would think if we're making any changes regarding smilies we might end up eliminating some of them... some posters tend to go overboard with them. I'd especially love to get rid of that rolling smiley.

What's wrong with smileys? They've been a staple of internet chat since the bulletin board days. They're part of history! ;)

[Nospam]

Actually, I'd like to set a cap on smilies per post.. I think we may start a war by doing that, though. (Even if it's in the freaking rules that people can't go overboard on smilies and ignore it anyway)

Begun the Smiley Wars have.

Does the new version allow to set a cap on the number of smilies per post?

[jw0ollard]

Begun the Smiley Wars have.

Does the new version allow to set a cap on the number of smilies per post?
Of course it does! :)

[Nospam]

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of 14 year old girls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

:p

[jw0ollard]

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of 14 year old girls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

:p
Those silly off-topic threads are going to explode with angst. :lol: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

^ LOL at my overuse of smileys.

[Nospam]

You don't know the half of it. I know some posters that insert a rolling smiley in each and every freaking post. It gives new meaning to "excessive."

Not that you need it, but you have my blessing and probably that of many others.

[batfinx]

ya thats how mine is but mine scrolls on the bottom. of course it dont make it full screen and different browsers have it different ways.

I think the problem for some is having their resolution set for 800x600 pixels. It doesn't seem to be the Vbulletin upgrade, it seems to be the new banner if it's integrated into the framework of the board. The old banner was about 766 pixels wide, but the new one is 980 pixels wide. Obviously the board can't display correctly on a computer screen set to 800x600 resolution and so you end up with sideways scroll.

A post last week that fit perfectly with that resolution now cuts off and a scroll bar appears at the bottom. You have to scroll right and left in order to read the posts. Sorry, I don't know how to fix that on a Mac, but PC users can go into Control Panel, then click the Display icon and choose the Settings tab, drag the resolution bar to the right till it shows 1024x768. That should take care of the long banner problem even on a 15" screen. Of course the text size and everything else will be smaller to accommodate that new resolution. For AOL browser users, it'll likely still have a bottom scroll bar even at the higher resolution because of the banner and so you'll have to maximize their browser to get rid of it. Hope this helps.

ETA:

I like the new quick reply screen.

[Dracula]

I think the problem for some is having their resolution set for 800x600 pixels. It doesn't seem to be the Vbulletin upgrade, it seems to be the new banner if it's integrated into the framework of the board. The old banner was about 766 pixels wide, but the new one is 980 pixels wide. Obviously the board can't display correctly on a computer screen set to 800x600 resolution and so you end up with sideways scroll.

A post last week that fit perfectly with that resolution now cuts off and a scroll bar appears at the bottom. You have to scroll right and left in order to read the posts. Sorry, I don't know how to fix that on a Mac, but PC users can go into Control Panel, then click the Display icon and choose the Settings tab, drag the resolution bar to the right till it shows 1024x768. That should take care of the long banner problem even on a 15" screen. Of course the text size and everything else will be smaller to accommodate that new resolution. For AOL browser users, it'll likely still have a bottom scroll bar even at the higher resolution because of the banner and so you'll have to maximize their browser to get rid of it. Hope this helps.

ETA:

I like the new quick reply screen.

On a mac it would be, system preferences -> Display -> and then just set the resolution.

[Nospam]

I have to ask, who would run 800 x 600 in this day and age? You either have a very old computer with an old graphics card, or an extremely old monitor.

Then again, you have people like my sister than run their display resolution at 800 x 600 "because I like it that way", and end up constantly have to scroll through even the most basic web pages.


On a mac it would be, system preferences -> Display -> and then just set the resolution.

Your Mac will also most often automatically set the display resolution to the highest your monitor can support. Unless you've changed it, that is.

[jw0ollard]

I think the problem for some is having their resolution set for 800x600 pixels. It doesn't seem to be the Vbulletin upgrade, it seems to be the new banner if it's integrated into the framework of the board. The old banner was about 766 pixels wide, but the new one is 980 pixels wide. Obviously the board can't display correctly on a computer screen set to 800x600 resolution and so you end up with sideways scroll.

A post last week that fit perfectly with that resolution now cuts off and a scroll bar appears at the bottom. You have to scroll right and left in order to read the posts. Sorry, I don't know how to fix that on a Mac, but PC users can go into Control Panel, then click the Display icon and choose the Settings tab, drag the resolution bar to the right till it shows 1024x768. That should take care of the long banner problem even on a 15" screen. Of course the text size and everything else will be smaller to accommodate that new resolution. For AOL browser users, it'll likely still have a bottom scroll bar even at the higher resolution because of the banner and so you'll have to maximize their browser to get rid of it. Hope this helps.

ETA:

I like the new quick reply screen.
We can't honestly support everyone with the new design. Google Analytics says that 5% of visitors at ksite have 800x600.. and how many actually use these boards? 2%?

We were going to be incorporating something that would have fixed this but there has been such a mixed reaction (to the upgrade), I'm afraid to even bother. Reason being it would force the actual forum/post area to about 780 pixels for EVERYONE, and then everyone would come on here to complain that the forums were too skinny. :rolleyes:

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On a mac it would be, system preferences -> Display -> and then just set the resolution.

I hope most Mac (and PC) users are already at their highest resolution. If you've bought a computer since the turn of the century, HOPEFULLY you have an LCD screen. And sorry people, but I hope nobody is turning down the resolution on those. (LCD screens have ONE fixed resolution and if you change it it looks like utter garbage)

[Dracula]

I hope most Mac (and PC) users are already at their highest resolution. If you've bought a computer since the turn of the century, HOPEFULLY you have an LCD screen. And sorry people, but I hope nobody is turning down the resolution on those. (LCD screens have ONE fixed resolution and if you change it it looks like utter garbage)

Yes, but there are people out there who make the screen resolution smaller because "it's easier to read the text" and whatnot. But yes, I agree with you, it shouldn't be changed... I was just stating how to change it for a mac.

[Nospam]

Jon, I noticed that the user ranks and custom user text are back (yay!), but I can't find where you can change your custom user text. :confused:

Thanks.

[jw0ollard]

Jon, I noticed that the user ranks and custom user text are back (yay!), but I can't find where you can change your custom user text. :confused:

Thanks.
It's still disabled from editing (for now). Making sure it worked OK.

BTW, at what number of posts do you receive custom text? Craig is in Vancouver and none of the mods/admins have answered me. LOL

^ Reason it's still off because I need to disallow users with < XXXX posts from filling anything in.

[triplet]

Jon, I noticed that the user ranks and custom user text are back (yay!), but I can't find where you can change your custom user text. :confused:

Thanks.

Mine doesn't show...

:(

It says "site episode reviewer" in my profile, but it doesn't say that under my handle name, it still says forum whiz...

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It's still disabled from editing (for now). Making sure it worked OK.



:(

Mine's not.

[Dracula]

It's still disabled from editing (for now). Making sure it worked OK.

BTW, at what number of posts do you receive custom text? Craig is in Vancouver and none of the mods/admins have answered me. LOL

^ Reason it's still off because I need to disallow users with < XXXX posts from filling anything in.

According to this (http://kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61497) thread, it's 10,000?

[jw0ollard]

According to this (http://kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61497) thread, it's 10,000?
No. Not custom titles.

Custom user text. :)

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Mine doesn't show...

:(

It says "site episode reviewer" in my profile, but it doesn't say that under my handle name, it still says forum whiz...

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:(

Mine's not.
Like I said in my last post, I don't know what NUMBER of posts to start showing it. (It's set at 5,000 right now). Reason yours wouldn't be showing. ... And it also seems you're confusing custom titles with custom user text. They've always been separate, and yours would say "Forum Whiz" even if you had custom user text set.

[Dracula]

No. Not custom titles.

Custom user text. :)


Oh, Sorry! - Well when I tried yesterday when I had 0 posts I could do it... hope that helps.

[jw0ollard]

Oh, Sorry! - Well when I tried yesterday when I had 0 posts I could do it... hope that helps.
Then you did it before I had disabled editing it. :) You wouldn't have been allowed before the upgrade because you can only set it after so many posts.

[TMLS]

But we've always had custom user text... from 0 posts even! It was only the Custom Title that was from 10000 posts or 2 (?) years membership.

[jw0ollard]

But we've always had custom user text... from 0 posts even! It was only the Custom Title that was from 10000 posts or 2 (?) years membership.
Oh. Really?

I asked the staff and no one knew, they just said they knew it was less than 10,000 posts (like custom titles were).

lol. Apparently none of us are with it.

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Well... At least that makes MY job easier. :)

[TMLS]

Yep, that's definitely the case - the post that was quoted (http://kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61497) says it all for custom title on 10000 posts. And like I say, it was also for 2 years service - that was a rule Craig introduced last year which is why posters like me (who go for quality posts over quantity ;)) were able to have them.

[Nospam]

Custom user text has always been available to any member to modify, but custom titles are only earned after 10,000 posts, as has been mentioned.

I hope that clarifies things. :)

[jw0ollard]

Yeah, I get the custom titles thing, no need for everyone to repeat it. :) Earlier today, I already worked on allowing those with over 10000 posts to edit the Custom Title, but when we upgraded, vBulletin decided to NOT carry over the usergroup permissions, so "Can use Custom Title" was set to off and effectively erased all your guys' Custom Titles whenever we actually rebuilt them (when we fixed it to show "Posting Pro", "1000 more", etc). d'oh!

But no worries, I didn't rebuild the User Titles on the test database yet, meaning I can recover them without you custom title'd people losing what you had. :)

As you can see, those with over 10k posts just say "Custom Title" for the time being, but now that I've just found out the Custom Title is also time-based I need to do that too.

You guys are piling the work on me!!! :( haha.

P.S. - TMLS, I hope you don't consider posting here "service". LOL. You could always join the military, though. :)

[Nospam]

You guys are piling the work on me!!! :( haha.

Wait till Craig tells you about the "secret" backup archive he needs rebuilt.

[jw0ollard]

Wait till Craig tells you about the "secret" backup archive he needs rebuilt.
Hahaha.

I'll call your bluff and just say that I currently have omniscience over every single thing that goes on here in the forums. ;) Surely I would have found that "secret" archive by now. :cool:

[Nospam]

Hahaha.

I'll call your bluff and just say that I currently have omniscience over every single thing that goes on here in the forums. ;) Surely I would have found that "secret" archive by now. :cool:

Oh God. You know about the goats. :eek:

[jw0ollard]

Oh God. You know about the goats. :eek:
Well.. there are enough trolls on this board. I was bound to find goats.

[Nospam]

:lol:

Jon, are there going to be further changes to the visuals on the board or are things more or less going to stay as they are now?

[jw0ollard]

:lol:

Jon, are there going to be further changes to the visuals on the board or are things more or less going to stay as they are now?
Well, I personally would like a complete change. It happening or not is a bit of a mystery. Designing the actual style is what I do best, but I think most of the people on here (including Craig :)) are so adverse to change that I don't want to even test those waters.

I mean, we have people screaming in the Off-topic threads that their world is crashing in because of the few smileys that have changed. And, god forbid, I try to make this style as close as possible to the old and I still get berated for not making it close enough. :)

[triplet]

No. Not custom titles.

Custom user text. :)

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Like I said in my last post, I don't know what NUMBER of posts to start showing it. (It's set at 5,000 right now). Reason yours wouldn't be showing. ... And it also seems you're confusing custom titles with custom user text. They've always been separate, and yours would say "Forum Whiz" even if you had custom user text set.

Oh, I see...

Sorry for the confusion about that.

However, I am a KryptonSite contributor and that bit is gone...

Will that be put back up?

:confused:

[number8]

Yeah, I'm sure Jon will get to that Triplet. No worries. He's doing his best right now, and he also has a lot of other features to add back and whatnot. :)

[newfan]

but I think most of the people on here (including Craig :)) are so adverse to change that I don't want to even test those waters.

I mean, we have people screaming in the Off-topic threads that their world is crashing in because of the few smileys that have changed.



I will admit Im one of those people that hate change :lol: Im sorry..Im a control freak what can I say!

Oh you guys saw that today..the screaming in there about the smileys? :lol: I had no part of that..I swear!
*secretly thinks yes..my world is crashing down because of it* :p Im kidding!

[newfan]

a) The search is basically unusable (we only re-indexed about 1/10th of the old posts) so the only stuff that's really searchable is from the past few days. So there's not going to be much need to lower the search limit until there is stuff to search.



Is that why when I go into my profile and click on the "search all posts by this user" I only get like the last two weeks worth, whereas before I had pages and pages dating back to my first post? So you are saying that we cant search ANY of the old stuff at all ever again?? :( Or is that feature coming back again? Thats really nerve wracking for me..I feel like its all lost now :lol:

[jw0ollard]

Is that why when I go into my profile and click on the "search all posts by this user" I only get like the last two weeks worth, whereas before I had pages and pages dating back to my first post? So you are saying that we cant search ANY of the old stuff at all ever again?? :( Or is that feature coming back again? Thats really nerve wracking for me..I feel like its all lost now :lol:
No.. that's not why.

vBulletin limits the search results to 500. And it seems that somehow you can post 500 times in a few weeks... :)

As to actually answer it, read what you quoted again and tell me where I said that we weren't going to re-index the old posts. ;) Also, if you go to the actual search page there's a nice warning on there for now.

HOWEVER, re-indexing just might not be feasible. With 3M posts I'd have to take the board down for possibly an entire day or more while the re-indexing goes on. I did as much as I could Sunday, and that was only about 230,000 posts.

SO... Also a reason we've been looking at other search engine options that plug in to vBulletin's. There's a nice one out there that re-indexes entirely differently and shouldn't take much time at all to re-index all the old posts.

[TMLS]

Yeah, I get the custom titles thing, no need for everyone to repeat it. :) Earlier today, I already worked on allowing those with over 10000 posts to edit the Custom Title, but when we upgraded, vBulletin decided to NOT carry over the usergroup permissions, so "Can use Custom Title" was set to off and effectively erased all your guys' Custom Titles whenever we actually rebuilt them (when we fixed it to show "Posting Pro", "1000 more", etc). d'oh!

But no worries, I didn't rebuild the User Titles on the test database yet, meaning I can recover them without you custom title'd people losing what you had. :)

As you can see, those with over 10k posts just say "Custom Title" for the time being, but now that I've just found out the Custom Title is also time-based I need to do that too.

You guys are piling the work on me!!! :( haha.

P.S. - TMLS, I hope you don't consider posting here "service". LOL. You could always join the military, though. :)

Not at my age! And do they use qualified auditors for anything? ;)

Although I did used to have the British Ministry of Defence as a customer so I've done my bit for Queen and Country :lol:

[triplet]

Yeah, I'm sure Jon will get to that Triplet. No worries. He's doing his best right now, and he also has a lot of other features to add back and whatnot. :)

Oh, I know...

I know he's working hard so I'll be patient, but I just like seeing that under my name.

:D

It's just about the only compensation I get for writing the reviews.

[CLSmith]

Your custom title makes me think of another kind of whiz!

They might wanna re-think that.

-cs™

[Nospam]

Cheez Whiz?

[TW1977]

Well, I personally would like a complete change. It happening or not is a bit of a mystery. Designing the actual style is what I do best, but I think most of the people on here (including Craig :)) are so adverse to change that I don't want to even test those waters.

I mean, we have people screaming in the Off-topic threads that their world is crashing in because of the few smileys that have changed. And, god forbid, I try to make this style as close as possible to the old and I still get berated for not making it close enough. :)

:lol::lol: OMG! PLEASE don't change the colors. I HATE the other boards and their blue on white. These colors are easier on my eyes. As for the smileys?.....:cool: The *cool* looks more sarcastic! "My World is crashing!...Help me! Help me!" :rotfl:

Keep up the good work Jon! ;)

[TMLS]

Blue and amber are the colours to have!

[Nospam]

Jon could take it all MySpace with pink text on lime green over a background picture of some obscure Anime film/emo Final Fantasy character/riced out import, all surrounded by prancing unicorn GIFs, utterly broken text boxes, pink hearts and blaring music. Oh, and plenty of pictures of that insufferable attention whore Tila Tequila somewhere on the page taking up space that could be otherwise used for something useful.

If the page doesn't crash Firefox or IE first, of course.

[D.M. Wyatt]

Your custom title makes me think of another kind of whiz!

They might wanna re-think that.

-cs™

LOL!

:D


:lol::lol: OMG! PLEASE don't change the colors. I HATE the other boards and their blue on white. These colors are easier on my eyes. As for the smileys?.....:cool: The *cool* looks more sarcastic! "My World is crashing!...Help me! Help me!" :rotfl:

Keep up the good work Jon! ;)

Oh, I don't really care about the colors, but just don't go to black like IESB! That site makes my eyes bleed....

Gray and maroon like it is now is fine, although I know other sites have options to select different color schemes.... The hype, for example, has a drop list at the bottom of all pages that is the "Quick Style Chooser"....

[TW1977]

LOL!

:D

Oh, I don't really care about the colors, but just don't go to black like IESB! That site makes my eyes bleed....



OMG! Yikes! :eek:



The hype, for example, has a drop list at the bottom of all pages that is the "Quick Style Chooser"...

Really? :eek: Ooo....I'll have to check that out! ;) Thanks for the info!

[Nospam]

There are a lot of settings and hacks for this version of vBulletin, apparently.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I don't wanna be nagative, but I preferred it when the Custom User Text was right below the title (the one you can choose after 10k posts)..... Now, they are seperated by the avi, that's not cool, IMO.
:\
Also, because of this the 'location' of each poster disappeared again. That was a neat new feature.
I think we could have both if you simply move the Custom User text back on top of the avi, right below screen name and title.

[jw0ollard]

There are a lot of settings and hacks for this version of vBulletin, apparently.
One thousand, eight hundred and ninety-six hacks/mods, to be exact. :)

Not to mention the fifteen hundred or so for vB 3.5.x that still work on 3.6.x.

[Nospam]

One thousand, eight hundred and ninety-six hacks/mods, to be exact. :)

Not to mention the fifteen hundred or so for vB 3.5.x that still work on 3.6.x.

:eek:

Holy crap. :lol:

What do you think of Stewie's (ILWC) idea of restoring the location of the poster and moving the custom user text below the title/user rank?

Not that we want to create more work for you...

And thank you again for doing all of this. :)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

THANK YOU!!!
Jon, I love you.
:p
;)

[triplet]

:eek:

Holy crap. :lol:

What do you think of Stewie's (ILWC) idea of restoring the location of the poster and moving the custom user text below the title/user rank?

Not that we want to create more work for you...

And thank you again for doing all of this. :)

I think he did it...

My Custom Text is now below my title, Forum Whiz, which probably should be changed...

I think the proper spelling to get the idea across of being a "wizard" would actually be "Wiz" anyway...

(I know, it's silly I'm correcting the spelling on the site when I don't always correct it in my reviews...)

:o ;)

Although, I'm not sure I like my name and sex being in there... Not that I mind people knowing that about me, but it sorta clutters up things a bit.

[Nospam]

THANK YOU!!!
Jon, I love you.
:p
;)

Don't poop on him, Stewie...

And you put the location back. All hail Jon!

[jw0ollard]

Although, I'm not sure I like my name and sex being in there... Not that I mind people knowing that about me, but it sorta clutters up things a bit.
Wasn't it there before the upgrade? :)

And the custom text HAS been there for two days now, just not in the right place.

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Can someone who has been around for more than 2 years BUT has less than 10k posts confirm that you can change your Custom User Title in "Edit Profile"?

I was going to disable it until I could restore the old values, but anyone who is still active will just end up changing them to something else anyway. :)

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OK... Well it's working for users over 10k posts. I'll get it working for you guys that have been around for two years, as soon as I find out what I did wrong.. :)

[triplet]

Wasn't it there before the upgrade? :)

Well, yes but it was on a bar below the post and not in the little box on the left where your avatar is...




And the custom text HAS been there for two days now, just not in the right place.

Yeah? I guess I didn't notice... I'm a bit oblivious sometimes.

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Can someone who has been around for more than 2 years BUT has less than 10k posts confirm that you can change your Custom User Title in "Edit Profile"?



Uhm, I don't see the option to change that setting and I've been around since Sept 04.

[jw0ollard]

Well, you must have missed my edit 3 minutes before you posted.

It's working for users with > 10k posts. Now I'm just sorting out why what I did isn't working for you and the others with <10k posts and > 2 years membership.

[triplet]

Well, you must have missed my edit 3 minutes before you posted.

It's working for users with > 10k posts. Now I'm just sorting out why what I did isn't working for you and the others with <10k posts and > 2 years membership.


Yeah, I guess I did...

Okay.

Thanks.

[jw0ollard]

OK. I think it's fixed..

It's always the little things, like not knowing how to calculate the # of seconds in two years... :) :D :lol:

[triplet]

OK. I think it's fixed..

It's always the little things, like not knowing how to calculate the # of seconds in two years... :) :D :lol:

LOL!

Well, whatever you did worked!

:D

[Atomic girl]

Thanks Jon, the new boards are quite the improvement.

As far as all those people saying they don't like change, so far so good, so I say keep going. Anything that makes posting easier is great, and I'm game to try new stuff.

And one question....is invisible mode disabled, not working right, or am I messing up? When I change my mode to invisible, my name still appears on the online list, but it has an asterisk next to it. I'll change it back to invisible mode so you can see it. And my dot changes to red, and shows me in invisible mode.....not very invisible really.

[jw0ollard]

Thanks Jon, the new boards are quite the improvement.

As far as all those people saying they don't like change, so far so good, so I say keep going. Anything that makes posting easier is great, and I'm game to try new stuff.

And one question....is invisible mode disabled, not working right, or am I messing up? When I change my mode to invisible, my name still appears on the online list, but it has an asterisk next to it. I'll change it back to invisible mode so you can see it. And my dot changes to red, and shows me in invisible mode.....not very invisible really.
LOL. Only you and I (any admins) can see that. :)

It would be weird to not be able to tell that you are in fact invisible so they came up with the "red dot" and the asterisks next to your name.

But I assure you that only you and admins can see that. =p

[meteor_phreak]

so if i get this correctly, we'll get the search functionality sometime, but we'll NEVER be able to search and get more than 500 results?

And for the smilies, and more importantly for the 'number of posts' related complaints, i guess it's just a matter of people who spend all, or nearly all, their time in culture and those who don't. the more time you spend there, then it changes. I've posted a few hundred ACTUAL posts in a day more than once.

Also, are we going to get our "ksite contributor" tags back? and did we get any special features like we were told?

overall, i like it, except for the search limitation and the screen width, i kinda liked the text area getting wider, and i use 1440 x 900 or something like that. but those are minor gripes that i guess i'll just have to get used to.

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oh, and are you planning on re-adding the list of people using a certain sub-forum to the top of that sub-forum? that was really helpful.

[Khyla]

this is really annoying , not to mention troublesome. My email account was shut down because of this in the past,....Even though I chose NO EMAIL NOTIFICATION, K-site keeps sending me email notifications & floods my email. And it's still doing this! I have to continually go into my subscribed threads, and change "Instant" to NO Email.

[Atomic girl]

LOL. Only you and I (any admins) can see that. :)

It would be weird to not be able to tell that you are in fact invisible so they came up with the "red dot" and the asterisks next to your name.

But I assure you that only you and admins can see that. =p
Thanks Jon, you're doing a great job! When we were in invisible mode before our text would say offline, so this is a change that's hard to verify on our own.

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this is really annoying , not to mention troublesome. My email account was shut down because of this in the past,....Even though I chose NO EMAIL NOTIFICATION, K-site keeps sending me email notifications & floods my email. And it's still doing this! I have to continually go into my subscribed threads, and change "Instant" to NO Email.


Khyla, go to edit options, go to subscribed threads default and pick no email notification. Then when you do want to subscribe to a thread you will need to add email notification manually if you would like that. Hope that helps.

[jw0ollard]

so if i get this correctly, we'll get the search functionality sometime, but we'll NEVER be able to search and get more than 500 results?

And for the smilies, and more importantly for the 'number of posts' related complaints, i guess it's just a matter of people who spend all, or nearly all, their time in culture and those who don't. the more time you spend there, then it changes. I've posted a few hundred ACTUAL posts in a day more than once.

Also, are we going to get our "ksite contributor" tags back? and did we get any special features like we were told?

overall, i like it, except for the search limitation and the screen width, i kinda liked the text area getting wider, and i use 1440 x 900 or something like that. but those are minor gripes that i guess i'll just have to get used to.

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oh, and are you planning on re-adding the list of people using a certain sub-forum to the top of that sub-forum? that was really helpful.
You can still search. It's continuously indexing NEW content, but we have to tell the old content to re-index. This site is far too active to shut it down for the time required to re-index 3M posts. It took me several hours do roughly 200,000 and it just kept getting slower.

Why do you need more than 500 results, may I ask? If you're looking past the first page, you're probably not searching correctly.

Someone asked before about "Contributor" status and whoever responded (not me) gave a good answer. I believe it was something like "Jon is doing far too much right now, I'm sure he'll get to it soon.". I'll leave it at that.

I also don't appreciate the implication that we haven't delivered what we've promised. If you've read ANY of the threads/announcements related to the upgrade you'd understand that this an ongoing process. It was in the announcement after the upgrade, and I think it seems pretty clear that I'm still continuously working on the site. (I did after all just get Custom Titles back up today). This thread especially has dealt with "Are we going to be doing more?" and "Will this or that be re-enabled?" so I suggest you read more thoroughly through this thread.

I've already addressed why the active users in a forum has been removed.

Also, going back to search, if you would have read deeper into this thread you would also find that we're looking into another search solution that would a) get the old content back up for search much more easily and b) improve the actual speed and relevancy of the search results you DO get.

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this is really annoying , not to mention troublesome. My email account was shut down because of this in the past,....Even though I chose NO EMAIL NOTIFICATION, K-site keeps sending me email notifications & floods my email. And it's still doing this! I have to continually go into my subscribed threads, and change "Instant" to NO Email.
What Atomic Girl said above, although I'm fairly certain I ran a query changing the default back to "No Email".

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I've just looked and it tells me that there are now only FOUR people on this board asking for Instant Email Notification... and you're not one of them. I was fairly certain I turned it off, for the reasons you mention.

I actually just looked further in-depth and your autosubscribe is set to "0" which means NO email notification.

What you need to be doing then is make sure you select ALL of your subscribed threads and turn them to "No email".

[meteor_phreak]

Why do you need more than 500 results, may I ask? If you're looking past the first page, you're probably not searching correctly.

Someone asked before about "Contributor" status and whoever responded (not me) gave a good answer. I believe it was something like "Jon is doing far too much right now, I'm sure he'll get to it soon.". I'll leave it at that.

I also don't appreciate the implication that we haven't delivered what we've promised. If you've read ANY of the threads/announcements related to the upgrade you'd understand that this an ongoing process. It was in the announcement after the upgrade, and I think it seems pretty clear that I'm still continuously working on the site. (I did after all just get Custom Titles back up today). This thread especially has dealt with "Are we going to be doing more?" and "Will this or that be re-enabled?" so I suggest you read more thoroughly through this thread.

I've already addressed why the active users in a forum has been removed.

Also, going back to search, if you would have read deeper into this thread you would also find that we're looking into another search solution that would a) get the old content back up for search much more easily and b) improve the actual speed and relevancy of the search results you DO get.



okay, i read the whole thread, and must have missed your response to the 'active users in a forum' question. i'm sorry. i guess i'll look again. edit: i found it.

and i didn't mean to imply anything. in fact, when i contributed, and commented in the original thread from a few months ago, i said i was only doing it because i liked the site, and that any extra features would be nice. i'd ask you not to jump down my throat, but you already did...so can you...ummm...un-jump? and what part about asking "is this coming," or "is that coming" means i don't understand the "work in process" nature? i was merely trying to get a feel for what things might still change, and what things are actually finished, and i apologize if i made it accidentally redundant. You got offended about something i didn't say, then put words in my mouth and yelled at me for it. whatever.

I saw your comment about the new search method, and in my mind it didn't address my main question of more than 500 replies. to answer your question, it's not searching for a topic, but searching for all posts by a user. if you click the "find all posts by this user" the search used to pull up ALL posts by this user. (as a practical example, it's a matter of looking through my old posts, and trying to find something important i said, when i don't remember my exact words. it almost never comes in handy when i am searching other people's posts, but i talk a lot, and there are threads in culture where i have a thousand or two responses in a single thread. so searching through more than 500 would be nice.) sorry for the confusion on the search thing.

[Khyla]

Khyla, go to edit options, go to subscribed threads default and pick no email notification. Then when you do want to subscribe to a thread you will need to add email notification manually if you would like that. Hope that helps.

i already did that first off! :(

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\I actually just looked further in-depth and your autosubscribe is set to "0" which means NO email notification.

What you need to be doing then is make sure you select ALL of your subscribed threads and turn them to "No email".

i did that yesterday and now i just had to do it all again and for each page. I have about six pages in my subscribed threads. :(

i know it's not your fault, you're doing a great job! :) But this is a serious problem! I hope it gets resolved once and for all!

[Nospam]

Did you figure out how to find subscribed threads with new posts? I PM'd you the info, but I never heard back, you naughty girl.

[jw0ollard]

okay, i read the whole thread, and must have missed your response to the 'active users in a forum' question. i'm sorry. i guess i'll look again.

and i didn't mean to imply anything. in fact, when i contributed, and commented in the original thread from a few months ago, i said i was only doing it because i liked the site, and that any extra features would be nice. i'd ask you not to jump down my throat, but you already did...so can you...ummm...un-jump? and what part about asking "is this coming," or "is that coming" means i don't understand the "work in process" nature? i was merely trying to get a feel for what things might still change, and what things are actually finished, and i apologize if i made it accidentally redundant. You got offended about something i didn't say, then put words in my mouth and yelled at me for it. whatever.


"Did we get any special features like we were told?" does not sound anything like "Is this or that coming" or "What should we expect in the future?" like you say you asked.

Also, "Did we get any special features like we were told?" sounds a bit impatient if you ask me, and if it's all a matter of you phrasing it a little less than optimally, then I apologize for my reaction. I disagree that I was jumping down your throat, but I do think that if you would have just asked straight away "Are we going to be getting any more features?" that you probably would have gotten a nicer-sounding response. Your actual question sounds to me like you were expecting something, when I don't think we ever once promised anything other than an upgrade.

I do want to clarify that I certainly wasn't offended by anything you said, and that I definitely didn't put any words in your mouth. If you'd like to illustrate what words that I morphed then please do so.

So, if you'd like me to answer your original question without inferring anything by it:

"Did we get any special features like we were told?"

We didn't promise any special features. We did however discuss the possibility of expanding the "Contributor program" to include a few more perks.
If you'd like me to answer:

"What things might still change?"

Most anything and everything could change. There are a hundred different enhancements that I could think of right off the top of my head. vBulletin is releasing 3.7 very soon and it comes with dozens of new enhancements over 3.6.x. You can read about them by going to vBulletin.com. Also, if you'd like to have an idea of the thousands of available modifications, please go to vbulletin.org.
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Can you see now how what you actually asked and what you think you asked differ?

Again, let me stress that I'm not jumping down your throat, and that I hardly ever get offended by anything anyone says on here. I do think that I have a problem with sounding "nice"... especially online. I apologize if this offended you.

Now if you would like any money you donated back, then by all means ask for it. I'll have Craig take it out of what he's paying me. I'm sorry that we're not promising a million new features at this moment. I am glad that you were excited about the upgrades last summer and I'm glad that you contributed. That makes you one of the few who actually wanted an upgrade, and one of the even fewer who are open to any amount of change to these boards. Like I've said in this thread, if I could do a complete change to these boards, I most likely would.

... And if I could do all those changes now, I would. But Craig is a very busy person (he's actually in Smallville/Vancouver right now) and we don't exactly have as much time to discuss the next "phase" of this upgrade as we would like. I'm still getting things functional.. and I'm still adding things to this board to improve performance, keep the spambots from signing up, and to automate some of the rules we've already TRIED to enforce on this board. (Image sizes, excessive smileys, multiple accounts) I need to come up with a basic "Welcome to 3.x" tutorial for you guys. I need to create tutorials for the different functional things I've already added. I need to create a tutorial for the moderators, too, since a lot has changed on that end of things.

So, as you might be able to tell by now, I have my plate full and I'm not really willing to discuss the next stage of this upgrade quite yet.

[meteor_phreak]

i don't want any money back. i was merely curious, because in the normal path of "type-post-type more-post more" it's probable that i haven't seen most of what you changed. so i asked some questions.

[jw0ollard]

i don't want any money back. i was merely curious, because in the normal path of "type-post-type more-post more" it's probable that i haven't seen most of what you changed. so i asked some questions.
Well, I didn't elaborate on it before, but contributor status is still saved in the database.

However, since we haven't discussed what direction we're going in regard to Contributors, I can't say when it'll be displayed again. That was a modification somebody did a long long time ago, and I still have to figure out how to show/not show it on each post without adding an extra query. That means 20 more queries per page and that's not ever a good thing.

But I'll repeat the information is still there, if we were to ever change how we handle "Contributors". I can think of one very easy way right now, and that's actually to create a special usergroup for you. :)

[Khyla]

Did you figure out how to find subscribed threads with new posts? I PM'd you the info, but I never heard back, you naughty girl.
Hi there, Jeremy! :D .....yeah, sorry about that. Yes I am very naughty! I was having trouble navigating this new set-up, plus i was "distracted"... hubby is very needy :p (same thing happened last night :p) :)
I knew about the subscribed threads, but that doesn't help. I have about 6 pages of subscribed, and the latest ones have usually had about several pages added to them by the time I get back to the site after my previous post, and I just want to see if someone replied to my specific post, so it would be nice to have a one-click-quick-link just to my own latest posts. I see I can go to "User CP", choose My Profile from the drop-down menu. then go to "Find all posts by Khyla" :\

Hey! what happened to my "Subscribed Forums"? :confused:

[meteor_phreak]

I was not trying to be impatient. i'm sorry if it seemed that way. thanks for the info. i'll wait patiently for the stuff you talk about. and if i didn't say it before, i DO think you're doing a GREAT job. better than i could, that's for sure.

oh, btw, i'm totally digging the larger PM inbox size, and the fact that the new "quick edit" or whatever it's called, doesn't erase your message when you bump against the limit. and i like the new smilies. having the angry one be 'red' makes a big difference, so thanks. :)

[TMLS]

Well, I didn't elaborate on it before, but contributor status is still saved in the database.

However, since we haven't discussed what direction we're going in regard to Contributors, I can't say when it'll be displayed again. That was a modification somebody did a long long time ago, and I still have to figure out how to show/not show it on each post without adding an extra query. That means 20 more queries per page and that's not ever a good thing.

But I'll repeat the information is still there, if we were to ever change how we handle "Contributors". I can think of one very easy way right now, and that's actually to create a special usergroup for you. :)

How about letting them have signatures, but uneditable - then sticking it in there.

[jw0ollard]

How about letting them have signatures, but uneditable - then sticking it in there.
Well, to allow them to have signatures, but still disallow non-contributors from having signatures would require putting them into different usergroups anyway.

Without adding extra queries to showthread, anyway. Extra queries are the devil when it comes to a busy forum. :)

To move them into their own usergroup I just need to say "UPDATE user SET usergroupid = XX WHERE contributor = 1"... XX being the new usergroupid that I create, and "1" meaning they are a contributor.

Then, also.. That way we could handle Contributor status through the actual PayPal/subscriptions system that vBulletin 3.6.x has incorporated.

Just need to talk to Craig about it, I guess. He is still up in Smallville, and keeping too busy. haha.

(So basically I'm saying I have it all figured out... we just need to actually decide if that's what we want to do. :))

[triplet]

Well, I'm curious to hear what special things you'll do for contributors so thanks for working on that!

I hope Craig is having a good time in Vancouver, it sounds like he is, but I tried clearing out all of my cookies and I still have to login everytime on this computer, but not on any others... Not my work PC or my kids mac.

Is there a setting I'm missing in IE? The hype remembers me and so does yahoo and live journal...

:confused:

I'm not sure why this site is different, but I have the same problem now with IESB too and I never used to with either here or IESB...

[jw0ollard]

Well, I'm curious to hear what special things you'll do for contributors so thanks for working on that!

I hope Craig is having a good time in Vancouver, it sounds like he is, but I tried clearing out all of my cookies and I still have to login everytime on this computer, but not on any others... Not my work PC or my kids mac.

Is there a setting I'm missing in IE? The hype remembers me and so does yahoo and live journal...

:confused:

I'm not sure why this site is different, but I have the same problem now with IESB too and I never used to with either here or IESB...
Are you viewing this site with the frame or without? (The frame that stays on top when you come here from the home page)

Are you browsing "WWW.kryptonsite.com/forums" or "kryptonsite.com/forums"??

[triplet]

Are you viewing this site with the frame or without? (The frame that stays on top when you come here from the home page)

Are you browsing "WWW.kryptonsite.com/forums" or "kryptonsite.com/forums"??

No frame and I use the www version of the URL, like this is the one that I see at the top of the Help Desk forum:

[url ]http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=36[/ url]

Or this one:

[url ]http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36[/ url]

[jw0ollard]

Well, I don't know what to say. I only have about 3 reports of login issues and those are all certainly cookie related.

If you could tell me what browser you're using I could paste instructions here to make sure you've cleared them. If you're afraid to clear your cookies because you don't want to be logged out of other sites, then I really can't help either.

I DID just force the cookie domain to .kryptonsite.com and that most likely is going to give MORE problems than before, but it's about the only thing they suggest doing when your users are having cookie issues. There's not much else I can do.

[KSiteTV]

Please understand that this forum upgrade is an ongoing process and some things are being ironed out... try out Jon's recommendation of clearing your cookies, and if it doesn't work yet, hopefully eventually it will.

I'd still highly recommend you use FireFox to view the site... but that's just me. :)

[triplet]

*sigh*

I think my browser is all screwed up, actually... I cleared my cookies now it isn't remembering me for any sites.

I tried firefox and I didn't like it, but IE isn't much better. I like Safari on the mac, but the windows version sucks and locks up on my computer and then sometimes won't connect to the internet at all, saying I need to check my connection to the internet even though IE works just fine.

I'll try reinstalling IE, but it seems to clearly be a problem with my computer. I know how to clear cookies, I am a tech support agent when not writing reviews. I know my way around computers, although I'm probably not anywhere near as good as Jon. I know enough to know I don't know everything...

I think the next time I get a computer, I'm getting a mac... getting to hate this thing and the kids Mac boots up so fast.

Thanks again for the help... I think I just need to throw this laptop out a window.

*sigh*

ETA: Oh, reinstalling IE didn't help btw. It's weird, it works okay at work and on the kids mac, so I guess when it comes to using this laptop I'm stuck... not sure what else to try.

Thanks again anyway for the help..

[CLSmith]

Oh some more doodads added!

I'm digging the forum jump too.

[TMLS]

Oh some more doodads added!

I'm digging the forum jump too.

:confused: How's it different to the old one, apart from location?

[jw0ollard]

:confused: How's it different to the old one, apart from location?
I'll let you peruse the site for awhile and see if you notice anything. :)

[TMLS]

Oh you mean that one, yeah had seen that and is pretty nice.

But I was talking about the one at the bottom that's also labelled "Forum Jump"! ;)

[KSiteTV]

Jon, I really like what you've done with the menu up at the top. :) Anyone who hasn't checked that out yet, should.

[jw0ollard]

Oh you mean that one, yeah had seen that and is pretty nice.

But I was talking about the one at the bottom that's also labelled "Forum Jump"! ;)
**Complete tangent approaching**

I'm jealous.. When I try to spell things like labelled, travelled, etc the correct way, Firefox underlines them!! :( So I always end up feeling wrong and spell them the American way.

Not sure how I was taught spelling as if I were British. I say "grey", double my L's, and I have a Mum!! :D

HAHA.. Now I've probably gone and offended any of the Brits on this board with my crude analysis of our spelling differences. :)

*Goes to firefox.com to download the English (UK) Spell Check dictionary*

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So, yes... you're right. That IS a forum jump as well. I guess to be more specific the one up top is a "Site Jump" as it'll take you to most all of the sites in the KryptonSite Network!

[TMLS]

No, it's OK - you sad "correct" so I'll let you off! ;)

Actually, not sure which dictionary I have installed myself. Color. Oooh, that's red underlined so I must be using the right one! Sidewalk - hmm, yup it sure is!

Anyway, as you say this could be the start of a new tangent so let's nip it in the bud - do you say that over there?

Tally ho with the rest of the thread. Pip pip!

[pacofajita]

This one's a weird one. Since the new design was unveiled, I've had this particular problem twice.

I don't remember the first time, but I remember deleting one of my posts for being in the wrong thread after posting it in the right thread. Today, I posted a link in the "Heath Ledger... RIP" thread about a psycho church group railing against Brokeback Mountain. I decided I'd edit it, but then changed my mind. I didn't close the edit window-- just hit the back button on my browser.

I noticed it was gone, then reposted the link again in the "Heath Ledger... RIP" thread.

Well, I found the original post. It seems the post is in the "What do you think of Black Canary's costume" thread. I didn't put it there. I even remember responding to another user in the same post from the Heath Ledger thread. Strange.

[TMLS]

John I'm not sure you've got user ranks working quite right yet, I've just passed 2000 so I should be "Board Master" but it stuck at "Posting Pro".

[jw0ollard]

John I'm not sure you've got user ranks working quite right yet, I've just passed 2000 so I should be "Board Master" but it stuck at "Posting Pro".
They're updated daily with a scheduled task. Take a chill pill. :)


Board Master 2000

^^ Copied right from the ACP.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

This may have been touched upon before. In my PM inbox it mentions:

"......2 unconfirmed private message receipts."

I was wondering: what's that???
:confused:

[TMLS]

Take a chill pill.Oh I'm sorry, you're confusing me for someone who gave a stuff. I'm not freaking out, would prefer to have my custom title back if anything. Don't take everything as a criticism - I just thought you'd want to know. Won't bother in future.

EDIT:

Which I see I have got! Ta :)

[jw0ollard]

This may have been touched upon before. In my PM inbox it mentions:

"......2 unconfirmed private message receipts."

I was wondering: what's that???
:confused:
They are private message receipts that haven't been confirmed. Meaning that someone who has sent you a PM has requested a Read Receipt that you must have denied at some point. :)

You may have just ignored it when you originally got the PM.

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Oh I'm sorry, you're confusing me for someone who gave a stuff. I'm not freaking out, would prefer to have my custom title back if anything. Don't take everything as a criticism - I just thought you'd want to know. Won't bother in future.

EDIT:

Which I see I have got! Ta :)
OK... *Now* you really need to take a chill pill. I didn't in a million years think someone could ever possibly get offended by "take a chill pill". So while I may have been nice or joking the first time I said it, I'm being serious now.

You've had the ability to use a custom title for a week now anyway.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

They are private message receipts that haven't been confirmed. Meaning that someone who has sent you a PM has requested a Read Receipt that you must have denied at some point. :)

You may have just ignored it when you originally got the PM.

Thanks, Jon.
Quick as always.
:)

[jw0ollard]

Thanks, Jon.
Quick as always.
:)
Just glad that not everybody gets angry at me when I answer their questions. :)

--(you can stop reading iLwC, a mini-rant is approaching :rolleyes:)--

Which, that brings up.. I don't have to be answering these support questions, TMLS. I'm sorry that you're not the laughing type, but what I said was in jest. I certainly didn't feel criticized, I can tell you that much. There's not really any need in over-dramatizing things, because it's certainly not making me look any worse.

So, I guess I'll just take this opportunity to ask you all to quit reading between the lines of what I'm saying in this support forum. I'm not always a cheerful person, but I'm certainly not going out of my way to be mean-spirited to the members of a forum in which I am working on 24/7. That sounds pretty contradictory and lame if you ask me. OK? Thanks for listening. :)

[TMLS]

Fair enough - it's the internet's biggest problem - being unable to understand context and inflection. You put a :) smiley after "Take a chill pill", which I took to mean you were saying it seriously but with a smile, as if trying to be kind - so I couldn't see you were joking, which a winking smiley would have shown. Oh, how I hanker for the days when the internet was governed by "Netiquette" - you knew where you stood then.

Sorry you felt I was over-dramatising stuff, I wasn't - I just responded to what I read. I don't try to read between lines, just what's written and how it's written. At the end of the day I'm currently stuck in bed with 'flu and the last thing I want is any arguments - especially as the laptop I'm on has the worst keyboard EVER and I can't even touch type on it!

[jw0ollard]

Oh.. and if you want to see what REAL "mean support" is like, just go over to the Coppermine Gallery support forums! :rotfl: They do funny things like scream and yell at you if you've asked more than ONE question per thread, and they're sure to give you "negative Karma" if you do anything that angers them. I recommend A++++++ !!

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Oops, that was meant to auto-add to my last post, but I see you beat me to posting something. :)

[TMLS]

Oh we have karma on a board I'm on, it's great laugh. If you don't like some of my posts here you should see them there - I'm trying to get to -999 karma! I'd nearly done it too until some mod realised what I was doing and put me on + 100 :D

Oh, and mean support can be fun. On a site I moderate, they had a "Last to post wins" game. So I posted and locked the thread. Apparently that wasn't very nice ;)

[Nospam]

You may have just ignored it when you originally got the PM.

Yeah, that sounds like Stewie. :p

[pacofajita]

Since it got buried, reposting.


This one's a weird one. Since the new design was unveiled, I've had this particular problem twice.

I don't remember the first time, but I remember deleting one of my posts for being in the wrong thread after posting it in the right thread. Today, I posted a link in the "Heath Ledger... RIP" thread about a psycho church group railing against Brokeback Mountain. I decided I'd edit it, but then changed my mind. I didn't close the edit window-- just hit the back button on my browser.

I noticed it was gone, then reposted the link again in the "Heath Ledger... RIP" thread.

Well, I found the original post. It seems the post is in the "What do you think of Black Canary's costume" thread. I didn't put it there. I even remember responding to another user in the same post from the Heath Ledger thread. Strange.

[jw0ollard]

I saw it, and I really don't know what to say.

What you mention about the disappearing post sounds normal to me. You say you posted something, then decided to edit it, but then you press back? That will certainly lead you to a page where it LOOKS as if the post disappeared. Especially if we're talking about "Quick Reply/Quick Edit". The posting of a Quick Reply doesn't require a page load so if you press back it's as if you're going back to before you even posted it.

So, when you reposted it, I'm guessing you also ended up double-posting it.

As for changing threads in the process that is near impossible, so I really don't know what to say about that. I don't want you getting offended but you would have had to reply to the wrong thread for it to end up in the wrong thread. The threadid (or postid if you respond directly to a post) is even hardcoded into the URL. And if you're using the Quick Reply on the actual page and not the "Full" Reply, I'd say that's even more unlikely as it can only insert the post into the page it's actually on.

I'd say the only way it's possible is if the person you responded to deleted their post and the reply had nowhere to go but respond to the next post down.

For instance your post above this is "do=newreply&p=3558076" in the URL. It could be possible (but highly unlikely) that if you were to delete this before I replied that my response would get "lost in the ether" so to speak... and somehow look for p=3558075 instead.

But, again, I really doubt it's likely, like 0.00001% chance of happening.

[pacofajita]

I had a feeling you'd say that. :rolleyes:

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I just wanted to say that I am in love with the 'manage attachments' option.
:)
So many nice, new details...... I could play around all day!!! :lol:
Admit it: You want us to get addicted to this forum.
;)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Jon, why are there Blue question marks in the posts. Did those used to be smilies? Are they gone for good?

[jw0ollard]

Jon, why are there Blue question marks in the posts. Did those used to be smilies? Are they gone for good?
Are you using Safari? I just looked in Safari and see what you mean.

Apparently whoever set up the smilies on this board back in 2000-whatever was linking smilies from another site.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yes, I am on Safari. The blue ?s are gone, now it's just keyboard symbols for :lol:
:\ :eek: Will they become smilies again?

[Randy G.]

Good question. I noticed our "eek" & "lol" are no longer with us.
Are those gone for good? I hope not. I'd prefer to sacrifice the "rotfl" before I would those two.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Uh, don't make me choose which smiley I am willing to give up....
:eek:
:lol:
;)

[jw0ollard]

Yes, I am on Safari. The blue ?s are gone, now it's just keyboard symbols for :lol:
:\ :eek: Will they become smilies again?


Good question. I noticed our "eek" & "lol" are no longer with us.
Are those gone for good? I hope not. I'd prefer to sacrifice the "rotfl" before I would those two.


Uh, don't make me choose which smiley I am willing to give up....
:eek:
:lol:
;)

Like I said, they were being linked to from another site, that for some reason no longer exists.

The only way I could salvage the three that I actually did is because they were the only ones left in my cache.

Not much I can do about that I'm afraid.

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As you can see ==> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:klKFrEqUrQEJ:www.discodelic.netfirm s.com/EZboard.html+www.discodelic.netfirms.com/EZboard.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Even Google cache doesn't have the images any longer.

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However, you're lucky that the Wayback Machine still has them.

[Randy G.]

Ahh! Very good sir.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

What a relief.
I was missing those little dudes.....
:lol:
Poor Jon.....what we keep bugging him with.
:lol:
;)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Oh, thank you Jon! I really missed my ":\"

[xrayvision]

Another question,

Will the total number of posts be added next to the post number? It used to say Post # x of y. That "y" isn't there anymore. It made it easier to know if there was another post below if someone was scrolled halfway in a thread.

I was wondering if this will be fixed or if it's part of the way the new vBulletin is.

[jw0ollard]

I was wondering if this will be fixed or if it's part of the way the new vBulletin is.
Well.. I remember replying to that already.. but I guess it was just in my head.. :)

It's just the way vBulletin is.

Although I'm not sure how strong your argument is for it being put back... You can normally tell if you're at the bottom of a page if you've run into the pagenav or the Quick Reply box. And if you've gone down far enough to see the last post, you should also see the pagenav directly below and you'd be able to tell quite easily if you were on the last page or not. (Not to mention the pagenav is also the first thing you see at the TOP of the page..)

I just don't think putting the numbers there to tell people that they're still in the middle of the page is good enough of a reason.. :) Also, it's not as if everyone knows there are 20 posts per page and that every time you hit a 10, 30, 50, 70, and 90 that you're exactly in the middle of the page. Like I said, the scrollbar carries the information well enough that they're not at the bottom of the page.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

One quick question: this might sound like another one of those details, but I really liked that with the old forums we could see how many times someone's profile has been viewed by other posters......is this function gone??? I couldn't find it. I hope these numbers aren't lost. Some people around here have hilarious profiles, like Jeremy/Nospam, for instance......
Anyway, I think this was a nice function and it would be sad if it was disconinued for no particular reason.
Thanks.

[TW1977]

My PM tracking is not working anymore. Is that gone? :(

[jw0ollard]

I may not have enabled it. The upgrade reset all permissions on all usergroups and frankly we weren't prepared for that. vBulletin told me explicitly that everything would move over, but apparently not.

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Well, actually it IS enabled. "Not working anymore" isn't very specific, can you tell me what is wrong?

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One quick question: this might sound like another one of those details, but I really liked that with the old forums we could see how many times someone's profile has been viewed by other posters......is this function gone??? I couldn't find it. I hope these numbers aren't lost. Some people around here have hilarious profiles, like Jeremy/Nospam, for instance......
Anyway, I think this was a nice function and it would be sad if it was disconinued for no particular reason.
Thanks.
That was a modification, unless they took it out of vB 3.x because of performance issues. But I wouldn't think so since they've added it back into 3.7 (which is still in beta).

I'm not going to install a mod for something that we will get with the next upgrade.

I've already discussed this actually, I think in the first or second page of this thread.. but I guess no one remembers back that far other than me. :)

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Oh, and I'm not sure when we WILL upgrade to 3.7, but certainly not while it's in beta. Just be patient and you'll get them back eventually. :)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Thanks.
:)
.......and it's true, I have the attention span of a 1st grader.
:lol:
:\

[TW1977]

I may not have enabled it. The upgrade reset all permissions on all usergroups and frankly we weren't prepared for that. vBulletin told me explicitly that everything would move over, but apparently not.



Well, actually it IS enabled. "Not working anymore" isn't very specific, can you tell me what is wrong?



Basically none of my "sent" show up in my tracking list even right after I send an IM. My old ones are there but no info on anything I send out and when they get read.

Also, are those Loooooog delays between PM's (3 minutes) permanent? I mean 60sec was an eternity! I want to bang my head on the desk clicking back until it finally sends the PM.

[jw0ollard]

You have to CHOOSE to send a Read receipt. I'm not sure if you can set it as default in your options.

[TW1977]

I have everything set in my options and profile to do that.

[jw0ollard]

No.. I'm saying there is no option for that. You have to choose to send a Read Receipt when you sent the actual PM.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Hey Deb, I found it, the Option is below the PM that you have composed and are getting ready to send. You have to check the box for each individual PM:)