Fortress of Solitude time difference?

[Ardiem3]

When Clark, well Bizarro, came back to the barn and met with Lana, he said that he didnt relize how much time had passed in Smallville since he had been gone for time is different where the FOS is. Could it be possible, that, when Clark does go to train at the FOS, that he could be there for just a couple of weeks/months but would seem longer down there? It seems, that if the writers strike does end, as we all hope that it does, that they could finish the series next season for id say this season, but theres still alot that needs to happen, i.e. Lionel, Lex, Clark at the Daily Planet, etc, etc..... What do you guys think?

[dru-zod2501]

1st of all he was just playing, i dont believe he was ever at the fortress.

you say it would seem longer in the fortress, dont u mean it would be shorter compared to the outside?

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by dru-zod2501
1st of all he was just playing, i dont believe he was ever at the fortress.

you say it would seem longer in the fortress, dont u mean it would be shorter compared to the outside?

Actually, the real Clark was at the Fortress to talk to Jor-El, thats how he got frozen in a block, and we havent seen Bizarro in a few episodes so how are we to know that he wasnt there at all, and how do we know that he dosent know about the Fortresses, having been created on on Krypton? Im going by what Clark/Bizarro said in "Gemini," I forgot how much time is different when im down there," or something like that.

[dru-zod2501]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Actually, the real Clark was at the Fortress to talk to Jor-El, thats how he got frozen in a block, and we havent seen Bizarro in a few episodes so how are we to know that he wasnt there at all, and how do we know that he dosent know about the Fortresses, having been created on on Krypton? Im going by what Clark/Bizarro said in "Gemini," I forgot how much time is different when im down there," or something like that.
I can't provide any proof that he wasn't there, you cant prove that he was.
There are just too many outs they could take, but I prefer the theory that Biz escaped wherever he was during the Zor-El eclipse.
anyway we'll see what route they decide to take

[AndiGirl]

I personally dont think there is a huge time difference. I think it took a couple of weeks for Bizzaro to lock Clark up.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by dru-zod2501
I can't provide any proof that he wasn't there, you cant prove that he was.
There are just too many outs they could take, but I prefer the theory that Biz escaped wherever he was during the Zor-El eclipse.
anyway we'll see what route they decide to take

So your theory is that Zor-El knew about Bizarro somehow and wanted him to escape to team up with him, or even to take his place, if somehow he died? This is possible. I was just trying to give teh writers an extra touch in saying that they could have just one or two episodes devoted to his training, if they ever show it on "Smallville" and could easily say that hes been gone for awhile, compared to the two episode span, or something of that nature.

[dru-zod2501]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
So your theory is that Zor-El knew about Bizarro somehow and wanted him to escape to team up with him, or even to take his place, if somehow he died? This is possible. I was just trying to give teh writers an extra touch in saying that they could have just one or two episodes devoted to his training, if they ever show it on "Smallville" and could easily say that hes been gone for awhile, compared to the two episode span, or something of that nature.
no my theory is that there was NO conspiracy! Zor-El's actions coincidentally made it possible for Biz to escape. Though someone else did mention that Biz almost sounded like he knew about Kara when he returned, which as yet doesn't make sense

[xrayvision]

This is what I think and what seems most logical to me:

-Clark was not trapped by Jor-El, but by Bizarro. Jor-El may want to discipline his son, but wouldn't do it at the world's expense. Unless what Clark is doing now is what is consider "training" (which I certainly hope is NOT the case because that's the lamest way to do the training and the worst way to make Clark become Superman---by forcing it on him). I believe Jor-El knew that Zor-El would make the eclipse happen and as a result Bizarro would return. So he had the foresight to know the consequences beforehand and what happened to Clark was not Jor-El's doing but something he knew Bizarro would do.

-Bizarro saying that was a clue to it not being the real Clark. He just said that to cover his ass since he doesn't know how long Clark was away.

-Time goes by the same rate in the FOS as it does outside. It's also on Earth. It's not the Phantom Zone, where time goes by a lot slower inside compared to outside. If time in the FOS went slower (meaning the rest of the world went faster), then in Arrival when Clark & Chloe left, it would have been weeks after the meteor shower that Clark got back to Smallville than it being the same day. And I don't think time goes by faster in there either because then Clark & Chloe and whoever else was in the FOS would age a lot more than everyone else.

[All about Clark]

Bizarro didn't have anything to do with Clark in the FOS.

Bizarro didn't go to the fortress for the same reason that Clark rarely goes, neither go to Jor-el unless they want help. And Bizarro wouldn't take a chance that Jor-el would know he isn't Clark.

Bizarro just made up that there's a time difference because he thought Lana would buy it and discussion closed.

[DarkseidNow]

In Lana's defense, which is a place I rarely go, how would she know if there was really a time difference when in the Fortress?

She has no real clue about how Kryptonian technology works, despite Lex's assertion of her alleged brilliance.

[ClareKent]

I don't believe there's a time difference either, he just made it up to explain Lana why it took him so long to come back, I strongly doubt that Bizarro was ever near the FOS with Jor-El AI in there.

[xrayvision]

Well, the Jor-El AI did nothing to stop Brainiac in Solitude and said nothing to Clark about not trusting Brainiac. The AI also did nothing to stop Clark from placing the blue crystal in the console.

[All about Clark]

^Well obviously, Jor-el AI did something to Clark, he clearly has a small amount of power over Clark and he was also able to return Martha in Zod. Bizarro having Clark's memories would remember the chest branding Clark received and would not temp Jor-el by going to the fortress.

[xrayvision]

Would Jor-El know it's Bizarro if he showed up? It's possible the FOS was weakened after the blue crystal was installed in it and he would not be able to defend an attack against Bizarro.

I still think Jor-El knew Bizarro would show up as a result of Clark's actions (which caused the eclipse) & that he (Jor-El) didn't freeze Clark himself but by consequences he meant Bizarro would freeze Clark. It's either this, or Jor-El is training Clark, and I certainly hope that's not the case because it would be just as lame and bad as the movie. I do not want Clark to become Superman as a result of having Jor-El force it on him. I seriously doubt Jor-El just froze him like that without any benefits like training him just to punish him while his "clone" is running around trying to bring Brainiac back when Clark could easily defeat Bizarro like last time and be punished by Jor-El after he defeats him. That would make Jor-El a BDA.

[All about Clark]

Xray, again your are creating whole scenarios which have not been seen.

Bizarro would not chance going to the FOS knowing the power Jor-el has. Clark doesn't even like going there and Bizarro would remember Clark's branding.

I'm not discounting that Jor-el might know that Bizarro is out there and is using this for Clark's consequence, but I'm certain Clark being frozen is not Bizarro's doing. He wouldn't have the knowledge or the desire to go against Jor-el as it was probably Jor-el that had him end up in the zone in the first place.

[xrayvision]

All I can say is we'll have to see. We know that Jor-El's S crystal did not work on Bizarro's phantom. Not only that, but as his phantom collided with it, it shattered & destroyed the crystal (you can see it cracking in Phantom if you slo-mo it). And it's very possible that Jor-El's AI in the FOS is programmed not to attack Clark's DNA, which Bizarro has. And if Bizarro did get sucked into the Phantom Zone, he could leave because he has Clark's DNA (the blood of the House of El) and can bring an army back with him.

[berniepooh]

What if Jor El trapped Kal El in Kryptonian Krystal to force feed some of his training on him, and Bizarro showed up at the Fortress just long enough to realize what had happened? In a split second he could leave the Fortress knowing he was free to masquerade as Clark for a while to get what ever he wants.

The possible twists and turns are tantalizing!;)

[All about Clark]

Obviously the PZ is not the way to go with the phanton now that he's Bizarro.

I'm actually thinking there will be a Bizarro/Brainiac showdown. If they both meet up with Dax, then maybe that is how Brainiac will learn of blue K to use on Bizarro, and he may not even know it's Bizarro, he may think he's dealing with Clark and if Bizarro is exposed to blue K then he will be powerless to stop Brainiac or Clark.

[SacredK]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I personally dont think there is a huge time difference. I think it took a couple of weeks for Bizzaro to lock Clark up.

Yes, I can agree with that. :)

[mistaguitarmasta]

I doubt it took a long time for Biz to lock up Clark. In fact I think Jor-El probably did it, he told Clark that he would have to pay for his actions at the end of "Blue". I think Biz just said that he lost track of time to get Lana off his back. When I heard that line the first time, since I didn't realize it was Biz yet, I thought something sounded a little fishy, but I sorta swept it under the rug and didn't think anything of it again until I re-watched the episode. I think that's what TPTB were going for.

[Super_Kara_2007]

I don't believe there's a time difference at all. When the real Clark goes to FOS he comes back when ever he wants to. He's never there a long time.