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Delovely
12-14-2007, 11:54 AM
I mean, she kissed him for petesake!

It should be in his kiss.


The woman who knows him more than anyone and true love my ass.

theotherJane
12-14-2007, 11:55 AM
I guess she feels closer to Bizarro than the real Clark. Who knows?

WickedJenn
12-14-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm thinking that she may not know Clark as well as she thought. Remember she only found out about Clark's secret at the very end of season 6...there's still a lot, IMO, that she has no idea about.

Last night's episode made that obvious.

Delovely
12-14-2007, 12:04 PM
I'm not even speaking in terms of her knowing the secret.

I'm saying of the level of her being his significant other and them supposedly being 'in love' and on a 'deeper level'.

Joelito
12-14-2007, 12:04 PM
maybe the clones aren't too smart to see the details.

WickedJenn
12-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Delovely
I'm not even speaking in terms of her knowing the secret.

I'm saying of the level of her being his significant other and them supposedly being 'in love' and on a 'deeper level'.

I know that, I was just saying that because IMO, when you're in love with someone, I'd assume you'd be one of the people to know them the best in all areas.

Maybe Bizarro was good enough to convince her (referring to the kiss specifically), I don't know.

friday
12-14-2007, 12:48 PM
Why would Lana expect Clark to come back different? Bizarro inherited Clark's memories. Everything that he told Lana from taking some responsibility for what happened with Lex, was knowledge that only Clark would know. Those are intimate details. Even Chloe couldn't tell anything was different about Clark.

And Bizarro was gentle with Lana just like Clark is. I could see if Clark came back like Red Clark, then Lana would know something was definitely amiss. But Bizarro, in this case, did an almost perfect impersonation of Clark. I don't blame Lana for not knowing the difference.

supergirl28
12-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Lana has no idea because she dosent know about bizarro. She was in China when Clark was fighting him. I'm sure she was weirded out that Clark wanted to take down Lex, but I dont think Lana is sure about Clarks evil twin or maybe she does. Just acting neive.

mrswelling_101
12-14-2007, 01:30 PM
im counfuseed ...i thought bizarro was evil ...y is he acting like normal clark ????

xaosthry
12-14-2007, 01:33 PM
He knows the best way to accomplish what he needs to do is use the resources CK has. Lana and her info, and Chloe and her google.

Mello Penelo
12-14-2007, 01:33 PM
Evil Lana is just happy she thinks Clark is becoming evil too.

SmallvilleMan
12-14-2007, 01:33 PM
How is Lana suppose to know it isn't Clark? I mean, could anyone else tell that it wasn't Clark before he turned? Bizarro acted exactly like Clark, EXCEPT for that slight tone in his voice, which Lana wouldn't know anything about.

It has zero to do with Lana not knowing Clark's secret or her not knowing him. It has to do with Bizarro playing the game right. He played Clark perfectly, said everything Lana wanted to hear and said it in a way that was understandable. It isn't like Chloe noticed anything either.

WickedJenn
12-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by supergirl28
Lana has no idea because she dosent know about bizarro. She was in China when Clark was fighting him. I'm sure she was weirded out that Clark wanted to take down Lex, but I dont think Lana is sure about Clarks evil twin or maybe she does. Just acting neive.

Exactly, that's just what I was trying to say.

That's what I was getting at when I mentioned the secret, that there's a lot wrapped up in it still...specifically Bizarro.

Bosrudorfer
12-14-2007, 02:06 PM
That would be funny

Clone Lana + Bizarro

theotherJane
12-14-2007, 02:10 PM
Plus he's been back for only a day. It's still too early to tell. Maybe in the next episodes, she starts getting suspicious.

boywithbluehanger
12-14-2007, 02:11 PM
^ Yeah! Now it's time for Lex Luthor II!! :lol:

WickedJenn
12-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by theotherJane
Plus he's been back for only a day. It's still too early to tell. Maybe in the next episodes, she starts getting suspicious.

This is true...I'm curious to see how they play it out from here.

clana4everfan2
12-14-2007, 07:01 PM
Granted Lana knew nothing about Bizarro since she was in China but with a CK kiss how could you not know? Lana can I beat you over the head with a stick? Idiot Lana! Clana fans don't hate me for saying that but it's true. haha :D

krpto
12-14-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by clana4everfan2
Granted Lana knew nothing about Bizarro since she was in China but with a CK kiss how could you not know? Lana can I beat you over the head with a stick? Idiot Lana! Clana fans don't hate me for saying that but it's true. haha :D

Well bizzaro got all of clark memories up till that point when he copied clark's body so I am sure with time and practice (we don't know exactly where Bizzaro has been he could use the info to kiss lana the exact way clark did. The only way to tell bizzaro from clark is to see bizzaro's face crack or ask him something clark learned since bizzaro copied him that bizzaro now wouldn't know without an update from clark. Rewatch the episode Bizzaro Comes back to the kent farm and finds lana and she thinks he is clark just back from the fos so he decides to use the info he knows to pretend to be clark. Bizzaro was coming to the farm to fight clark that much was clear and since clark is gone he fiqured he may as well pretend to be clark as long as he can.

xaosthry
12-14-2007, 07:34 PM
Its hard for me to say Lana is an idiot for not knowing. The proved in Wrath that Clark don't know Lana as much as he thought. They just showed that Lana don't know Clark. Each having the "idea" of what they thought they were. There were always just to many secrets and lies between them from day one.
What I'm interested in seeing, is once Chloe figures it out how Lana's reaction to that is going to be. Lana finally has Clark where she wants him, and Chloe is going to tell her this isn't Clark.

I_am_LEX
12-14-2007, 10:56 PM
ok... for those of you who keep saying something about lana being a clone.. she's not! have you not been watching... she killed her clone, except her clone was never alive.

and, i gotta say, that cliffhanger at the end... i was not ready for that. that was great. prly the best of the series, because no one knew it wasnt him. if you say otherwise, you are lying through your teeth and you know it.

there was no reason to think that it wasnt him... and then his face changed in the light and we saw clark in training... that was a great ending...

ClareKent
12-14-2007, 11:14 PM
I think Lana didn't suspected anything about Clark's "bizarre" behavior considering he was trapped in the FoS for a while, she probably believe that'd be normal for him to act like that. Plus, she must be happy that Clark's getting obssesed with Lex as well.

CLanaF23
12-14-2007, 11:25 PM
probably she is just so happy that clark is back and things are going good..shes not really paying close attention..i mean she has no clue about bizzaro and come on bizzaro looks exactly like clark..and chloe is close to clark too...how does she not know? it always gotta be lana.uggghh.. leave her alone already..

Alexander III
12-14-2007, 11:28 PM
C'mon, not even I could find out he's Bizzaro.

MidgardDragon
12-15-2007, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Delovely
I mean, she kissed him for petesake!

It should be in his kiss.


The woman who knows him more than anyone and true love my ass.

Bizarro has all of Clark's memories from before he took his DNA to replicate him. Since Clark had kissed Lana before that, he could easily remember that and kiss Lana in the same way that Clark did. He's pretending to be Clark, so it's unsurprising that he'd get a little detail like that right. It's going to be pretending to know the stuff from after the split that will eventually give him away.

Serynarpc
12-15-2007, 04:42 AM
They are both operating off of false illusions. Placing each other on pedestals.

For some reason, I keep flashing back to Chloe telling Clark that he doesn't see Lana at 3 in the morning when she's crying- implying that he's only seeing what he wants to.

They don't know each other at all- only each others ideal version. Thats why they break down when confronted with 'flaws' in the other.

Frankly, I found it hilarious.
Love of his life my left toe.

Chlarker2008
12-15-2007, 08:15 AM
If Lana knows/love Clark so much why couldn't she tell that wasn't the real Clark. If Clark really did trust her, I know that he told her about Bizarro.
OK and Bizarro may have Clark's memories but, I don't think that he, has the way Clark kisses.

Kid Collins
12-15-2007, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Serynarpc
They are both operating off of false illusions. Placing each other on pedestals.

Lana never put Clark on a pedastal. If she did then she would never have demanded to know his secret. Lanan would've thought he knew best about why he didn't want to tell her. Clark after Wrath knows that Lana has been damaged by being in a relationship with Lex. He knows what she did to Lionel, the Isis Foundation. But he still believes in her. Believes that she can redeem herself.




For some reason, I keep flashing back to Chloe telling Clark that he doesn't see Lana at 3 in the morning when she's crying- implying that he's only seeing what he wants to.

How is Clark suppose to know Lana cries at night when she never told anybody, probably not even Chloe who lived with her at that time? Chloe probably just overheard her crying.

Just because you don't know everything about a person, doesn't mean the love you feel isn't real.

Everyone has secrets that they don't want anyone to know. Ask celebrities. :lol:



Frankly, I found it hilarious.
Love of his life my left toe.

You find it hilarious, Clana find it real.

It's from their perspective, if they think their each other's soulmates. And that's what counts.

kentfamily
12-15-2007, 12:41 PM
Gotta look at the characters' reactions, facial expressions and body languages people.

I think Lana in a way, suspect something because, when Bizarro tells Lana, " When I saw you in the barn, it seems like I fell in love with you all over again", Lana gives this slight "huh?" or cringe/ questionable (is that the word for it?) above the eyebrow look and then gets kissed by Bizarro. Lana has this weird satisfied look at the end when he hugs her.

In the spoilers, the future episode has Lana and Chloe teaming up to save Clark. So they do find out that its not Clark. I love it when the girls team up, like in Hydro.

Lana is great this season. She is the only one willing to BRING DOWN the Luthors while Clark and company just sits around.

This one feeling sorry for herself (meteor freak) that one with the boss and the last but not least, is stuck in FOS frozen but did not like Lana to hurt Lex.
Lana is the only one with the Cajones, right now. I still think she is working with someone, I still think its Oliver Queen. Dont forget, Oliver is willing to bring down Lex and father. Its his mission to bring all his labs down. Remember people.

Serynarpc
12-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Kid Collins
Lana never put Clark on a pedastal. If she did then she would never have demanded to know his secret. Lanan would've thought he knew best about why he didn't want to tell her. Clark after Wrath knows that Lana has been damaged by being in a relationship with Lex. He knows what she did to Lionel, the Isis Foundation. But he still believes in her. Believes that she can redeem herself.





How is Clark suppose to know Lana cries at night when she never told anybody, probably not even Chloe who lived with her at that time? Chloe probably just overheard her crying.

Just because you don't know everything about a person, doesn't mean the love you feel isn't real.

Everyone has secrets that they don't want anyone to know. Ask celebrities. :lol:


'How is Clark suppose to know Lana cries at night when she never told anybody, probably not even Chloe who lived with her at that time? Chloe probably just overheard her crying. '

What I mentioned is a quote that Chloe told Clark in an earlier season. 2 or 3, I believe. So yes, he knows.

'Clark after Wrath knows that Lana has been damaged by being in a relationship with Lex. He knows what she did to Lionel, the Isis Foundation. But he still believes in her. Believes that she can redeem herself.
'

That wasn't Clark. That was Bizarro in Clark's skin. We're not really certain how Clark feels after that uncertain barn scene.






You find it hilarious, Clana find it real.

It's from their perspective, if they think their each other's soulmates. And that's what counts.

I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I may disagree, but I'm glad that it pleased you and the Clanas.

We're all just SV fans, after all :)

msleggie
12-15-2007, 04:45 PM
I wouldn't bet on Lana figuring out that something was up with Clark. But Chloe, she should have noticed a difference, Lana is just happy that Clark is on her level of obsession with Lex.

miks
12-15-2007, 09:58 PM
exactly. Lana didn't think about it because she doesn't know the real Clark. Bizarro got Clark's past, true, but he doesn't know how to kiss like clark! come on people. Chloe only had a few scenes with him, in that time he always spun the convo back to Lex. And in that sense, biz was acting like clark, serious and down to business.
Lana may figure it out eventually, even though I think Chloe will be the first one to figure it out, but she friggin kissed the guy! How can you not see that there is a problem here. I know if it were my boyfriend I could definitely tell the difference, but that's what love is. Knowing your significant other no matter what...I would not be able to be fooled like that, no matter how much alike they are. Lana is going to realize it, but it's going to be too late (possibly after bizana sex!) and she's going to look like an idiot even more and that's the end of clana.
Or
Chloe's going to figure it out, tell Lana, and either a.) Lana's going to be devastated that she loved her life with biz or b.) she's going to accept it and run away with biz
I'm hoping it's the latter

DarkseidNow
12-15-2007, 10:40 PM
How does Lana not know? Well Lana is a self-obsessed moron. Don't let Lex's assertion of her brilliance fool you. The minute Bizarro Clark started sprinkling on the love and affection, Lana's brain instantly went to putty.

xrayvision
12-15-2007, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
How does Lana not know? Well Lana is a self-obsessed moron. Don't let Lex's assertion of her brilliance fool you. The minute Bizarro Clark started sprinkling on the love and affection, Lana's brain instantly went to putty.

I'd have to agree. If Lana wasn't as self obsessed, she would know that Clark would never support getting revenge on Lex in the way she's doing it. That should have been a red flag. The same with giving up on Kara. That's what actually did it for me. When he wrote Kara off like that, it reminded me of the bogus Devon in the Knight Rider episode Knight of the Juggernaut and how he wrote off KITT as dead & gone. His voice even sounded very un-Clark-like.

Kid Collins
12-16-2007, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
How does Lana not know? Well Lana is a self-obsessed moron. Don't let Lex's assertion of her brilliance fool you. The minute Bizarro Clark started sprinkling on the love and affection, Lana's brain instantly went to putty.

Yeah right. Lana's so self absorbed that she decided while Clark was away that she'd give up investigating Lex for him! That's self absorbed all right. Thinking about somebody else instead of herself.

And Lana probably thought, if she could change her mind while Clark was away, why can't Clark?

Let me see, if it was Lana that went away and came back and said to Clark that she didn't want to investigate Lex anymore, would Clark automatically think that's not Lana? Hell no! He'd be glad that she finally came around.

That's what Lana is thinking, imho. People change. Sometimes unexpectedly.

And if Lana is a moron for falling for Bizarro's version of Clark, then so is Chloe. She did give him her research on Professor Fine. No questions asked.

darkone
12-16-2007, 08:54 AM
Well Lana is a self-obsessed moron.

Then I say Chloe is a self absorbed dumbass because she gave Bizarro information on Brainiac.Bizarro is a clone of Clark.He has the same memories and same feelings.


If Lana wasn't as self obsessed, she would know that Clark would never support getting revenge on Lex in the way she's doing it. That should have been a red flag. The same with giving up on Kara.

And?Chloe and everyone else is ignoring those facts aswell.I guess they are also self absorbed then right?

xrayvision
12-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Not to play the Lana vs. Chloe card (since lately I could care less of either character), but Lana had a lot more interaction with Bizarro to let her know it wasn't Clark than Chloe did.

So far, I think Lana should have picked up on how Bizarro (who she thought was Clark) was supportive of her Isis foundation. In an earlier episode, I believe it was Hidden, Lana pointed out how Clark had an ability to see good in people who don't deserve it (even Lex). This made it seem like Lana knows that Clark sees morals as black & white. If she didn't know it then, she certainly did when Lex reminded her how Clark wouldn't be accepting of how she took the $10 million from him in Fierce. I believe he said something else to her in Action or Wrath that again reminded her about Clark's black & white moral code. From this she should have picked up that something's not entirely right. And going forward I think she should be collecting the differences that she notices in his behavior to come to a conclusion that it's not Clark. But instead of realizing that Clark's true nature would never support hurting or killing someone (which I think Bizarro will encourage eventually), she will use (who she thinks is) Clark's new attitude to justify going after Lex further. And it won't only be in exposing Lex but perhaps trying to kill him again.

In the end, I think Clark will be horrified of Lana's inability to discern Bizarro's mentality with his (Clark's) own mentality and that will be what makes him realize once & for all that she's not right for him. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he tells her something similar to what he told Alicia in Unsafe:

"Look, you don’t even see what you did was wrong! What’s the matter with you"?

Alicia Chipy
12-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Well maybe if "soulmate" Lana and Super smart Chloe couldn"t figure out it was Bizarro instead of Clark,they can have Lois interact and kiss him.
After all, she did figure out it was Clark who was disguised as Green Arrow after kissing him in Crimson.
In the comics Lois could always tell Superman's kissing technique(the infamous Super-Kiss power) even if he was in disguise.
I remember a story from the sixties(yes I know I'm ancient)where Lois told Clark that as a treat she would kiss him under the mystletoe as if he was Supes.Clark retaliated witha "superkiss" and Lois nearly passed out in recognition and shock.
So pucker up Bizarro and may the best girl win!

xrayvision
12-16-2007, 11:12 AM
That knowing someone by kissing them thing never made sense to me.

Alicia Chipy
12-16-2007, 11:27 AM
A flying man who wears his undies outside his pants,never made sense to me,but I accept and love it as comics fact any way. :)

msleggie
12-16-2007, 04:12 PM
Posted by Kid Collins:
Yeah right. Lana's so self absorbed that she decided while Clark was away that she'd give up investigating Lex for him! That's self absorbed all right. Thinking about somebody else instead of herself.

And Lana probably thought, if she could change her mind while Clark was away, why can't Clark?

Let me see, if it was Lana that went away and came back and said to Clark that she didn't want to investigate Lex anymore, would Clark automatically think that's not Lana? Hell no! He'd be glad that she finally came around.

That's what Lana is thinking, imho. People change. Sometimes unexpectedly.

And if Lana is a moron for falling for Bizarro's version of Clark, then so is Chloe. She did give him her research on Professor Fine. No questions asked.


Lana and Chloe are both morons for not knowing the real Clark! And Lana not wanting to investigate Lex anymore is different than Clark wanting to investigate Lex. For one, Lana was crazed and obssessed, and it's good that she stops, she already wasn't being herself. And when Clark found out what Lana was doing, he was basically disgusted. Now Clark all of a sudden wanting to investigate Lex is a complete 180. Lana should have noticed something was up with Clark. And Chloe is no excuse, she should have known Clark wouldn't have guessed M. Fine was still alive so quickly, and the way he was acting was weird. Before I even knew it was Bizzaro, I kept saying that something was odd or off about Clark....Chloe and Lana should be slapped, and if I was Clark, I'd be pretty pissed at the both of them!

RedKRules
12-16-2007, 05:01 PM
I wasn´t surprised .... not even Chloe couldn´t tell the difference....soo Bizarro fooled everyone :lol:

Serynarpc
12-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by RedKRules
I wasn´t surprised .... not even Chloe couldn´t tell the difference....soo Bizarro fooled everyone :lol:

True that. Our ladies are so screwed.

Though honestly- you think they'd wonder why he wasn't moping with his ball upstairs. Suppose the 'vacation to the Fortress' implies he came back refreshed. Genius Bizarro, genius!

zspree8
12-16-2007, 11:31 PM
are you kidding me?? that's outta the question! did u see how convincing that bizarro is?? anyone would click w/that unfortunately..that son of a b**** bizarro!