Remember: Bizarro has all of Clark's memories.

[JBW157]

At first, when i saw the cliffhanger, i was like, "so why would Bizzaro even care about Chloe?" well i guess it makes sense that he needed the translation. so yea. and then i thought he played Clark's life too well for someone who wasn't around. but i remembered, At the Season 6 Finale, Bizzaro received all Clark's memories. and because the way he took over tonight, he must have had the chance to re-download a fresh batch of them

So Bizzaro finally took over Clark's life, and for some reason really wants to take down Lex.




two questions to leave you with:

Does Bizzaro have anything to do with Milton Fine and Brainic or are they two seperate evils?

and

Has Chloe told Clark about how she has her powers and can control them, and if not, why hasn't she told her most trusted friend?

[litew8]

What I don't understand -
If BiZaRrO has all of Clark's memories -
How does he know what Kryptonian sounds like?
Not only that - How can he translate it into symbols but not
understand what it means!

How is that even possible? Anyone?

[mariolegosu]

Because it was explained later that it was "computer talk". He didn't understand what it was supposed to mean.

[Theshadow129x]

plllloooooooooooooottttt hhhhhhoooooooollllllllllllle

[litew8]

Even if it was computer talk, he has to be able to UNDERSTAND what she was saying in order to write it down on paper. If he can write it down on paper, how could he not understand or translate it into words? LOL

[Theshadow129x]

Originally posted by JBW157
At first, when i saw the cliffhanger, i was like, "so why would Bizzaro even care about Chloe?" well i guess it makes sense that he needed the translation. so yea. and then i thought he played Clark's life too well for someone who wasn't around. but i remembered, At the Season 6 Finale, Bizzaro received all Clark's memories. and because the way he took over tonight, he must have had the chance to re-download a fresh batch of them

So Bizzaro finally took over Clark's life, and for some reason really wants to take down Lex.


Bizarro doesnt want to bring down Lex really, he wants more information on Project Scion to become allied with Brainiac. Lex is nothing to Bizarro and Brainiac.


Bizarro doesn't have Clark's recent memories just so you know. He has the same memories of Clark's from when he first copied the BDA. He's just had time to reflect upon those memories and see where he can use them to his advantage. the only reason why he saved Chloe was because he needed her computer skills.

[litew8]

I think Jor-El is controlling BiZaRrO.

[Theshadow129x]

^ Nah. Jor-el warned Clark about Bizarro, well the phantom that would create Bizarro. I really do think the blot out of the sun is what allowed Bizarro to get some power back to return to earth. If Bizarro turns out to be a big threat then i think we'll see a reawakened clark. but dont expect a new Clark, he'll still be a bda.

[WickedJenn]

Apparently Bizarro doesn't have ALL of Clark's memories, according to Persona spoilers anyway.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by litew8
What I don't understand -
If BiZaRrO has all of Clark's memories -
How does he know what Kryptonian sounds like?
Not only that - How can he translate it into symbols but not
understand what it means!

How is that even possible? Anyone?

Because he's a criminal FROM krypton. Of course he can understand the language.

[HowardFilms]

LOL, guess that finishes up that argument.

[superhippie2000]

im thinking that bizarro can penetrate manhunters mind since clark and manhunter can do that to each other and manhunter knew clark was grounded and brainiac has possibaly returned and i think bizarro knew this was his only chance to escape and be able to pretend to be clark and im guessing he had clarks memories about lex being zod and having the piece of brainiac which turned to ash and that lex would probably keep it so im guessing bizarro wanted to pretend to be clark in order to get answers from his friends and he knew lana had worked with lex so he used her to find the briniac goo. Im think bizarro is going to want to resurrect brainiac or make it so he becomes more powerful and together they both can bring down clark kara and manhunter and take over the world and possibally release all criminals from the phantom zone. If i had to guess the only reason he would save chloe is to keep his cover as a good guy.

[mariolegosu]

Originally posted by litew8
Even if it was computer talk, he has to be able to UNDERSTAND what she was saying in order to write it down on paper. If he can write it down on paper, how could he not understand or translate it into words? LOL

Ok I'll put you in a situation, you have to follow me here. Say you are in a place where you're the only who speaks english and hear someone whispering the following: One Zero One One Zero Zero One One One Zero One (10110011101)

You know what he's saying, you just don't understand the meaning behind it (I just assume you don't know binary). That's what happened in this episode.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by litew8
What I don't understand -
If BiZaRrO has all of Clark's memories -
How does he know what Kryptonian sounds like?
Not only that - How can he translate it into symbols but not
understand what it means!

How is that even possible? Anyone?

Because he was created on Krypton, by Krytonians. It's his first language. And he would know how to write it because Clark knows how to write it. And Bizarro knows everything Clark knows up until Phantom.

[DestinyAw8s]

Yep, Bizzaro phantom was originally some actual Kryptonian with all the bells and whistle of said. But why should Bizzaro care about Brainiac or Zod? Unless the Kryptonian that he was had connection to one or both previously. Or Bizzaro is figuring out a way for them to somehow further his own agenda. As for Lex, we all know they share some rather unpleasant history. Oh well, we'll just have to wait to find out.:( And it's gonna take forever before the next episode. How come there's no crying smilie? hehe :)

[Humdinger]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JBW157
[B] and then i thought he played Clark's life too well for someone who wasn't around. but i remembered, At the Season 6 Finale, Bizzaro received all Clark's memories. and because the way he took over tonight, he must have had the chance to re-download a fresh batch of them

So why didn't he remember to take Clark's cell phone with him! :lol:

[Jephael]

Originally posted by litew8
I think Jor-El is controlling BiZaRrO.

I agree. It's got to be Jor-El's doing. Keep in mind, Lionel has been under Jor-El's control since season 5!

[MrZeppo]

Originally posted by Jephael
I agree. It's got to be Jor-El's doing. Keep in mind, Lionel has been under Jor-El's control since season 5!

I doubt Jor-El's A.I is behind this. Jor-El's A.I is a cold emotionless program, but it's mission is to help Clark to his destiny. And Lionel has displayed a lot of compassion and love for Clark when he displayed Jor-El's personality. Bizarro is too much of a threat and a wildcard. I think Bizarro just returned from wherever the MM dropped him off and found out Clark was gone and decided to play the role.

And I think Clark had more of an affect on Bizarro than he knows. He told Lana that while he was gone, "Feelings, good or bad, they don't just disappear, no matter who you are."

I think in a twisted way, Bizarro wants Clark's life and friends. He loves Lana, and cares for Chloe, but I'm sure he'll become twisted. He is Bizarro afterall. He doesn't have Clark's recent memories since he was created. He seemed too happy that Brainiac may be around. I think he wants control over his form and the ability to be out in sunlight and he'll need help with that.

[litew8]

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Originally posted by litew8
What I don't understand -
If BiZaRrO has all of Clark's memories -
How does he know what Kryptonian sounds like?
Not only that - How can he translate it into symbols but not
understand what it means!

How is that even possible? Anyone?
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Originally posted by muffinpeddler
Because he's a criminal FROM krypton. Of course he can understand the language. I asked how he could NOT UNDERSTAND what the symbols meant - and you said he CAN UNDERSTAND because he's from Krypton. Makes no sense.


Originally posted by HowardFilms
LOL, guess that finishes up that argument. Uh, no.


Originally posted by mariolegosu
Ok I'll put you in a situation, you have to follow me here. Say you are in a place where you're the only who speaks english and hear someone whispering the following: One Zero One One Zero Zero One One One Zero One (10110011101)

You know what he's saying, you just don't understand the meaning behind it (I just assume you don't know binary). That's what happened in this episode. :lol: :lol: You assume I don't know binary. I know what specs are and I know that without the entire Kryptonian alphabet, your explanation doesn't hold water. I've never seen Chloe with the entire Kryptonian alphabet on her computer. So there's no way she'd be capable of decoding or decompiling the string.

[DestinyAw8s]

Originally posted by litew8
I've never seen Chloe with the entire Kryptonian alphabet on her computer. So there's no way she'd be capable of decoding or decompiling the string.
I was wondering about that, too.:confused: Did she get it from Lionel? But I don't think he really knows what it's all about, either. I know binary is computer language, but wouldn't a computer require much more extensive data about the Kryptonian language, more than a few arbitray symbols, to even be able to analyze or conclude that it was some kind of alternate binary or whatever? Ok, I'm not gonna think on it too hard. It makes my head hurt. I'm just gonna take it for what it is. :cool:

[The Krypton Knight]

I doubt Jor-El's A.I is behind this. Jor-El's A.I is a cold emotionless program, but it's mission is to help Clark to his destiny. And Lionel has displayed a lot of compassion and love for Clark when he displayed Jor-El's personality. Bizarro is too much of a threat and a wildcard. I think Bizarro just returned from wherever the MM dropped him off and found out Clark was gone and decided to play the role.

And I think Clark had more of an affect on Bizarro than he knows. He told Lana that while he was gone, "Feelings, good or bad, they don't just disappear, no matter who you are."

I think in a twisted way, Bizarro wants Clark's life and friends. He loves Lana, and cares for Chloe, but I'm sure he'll become twisted. He is Bizarro afterall. He doesn't have Clark's recent memories since he was created. He seemed too happy that Brainiac may be around. I think he wants control over his form and the ability to be out in sunlight and he'll need help with that.
I agree with this 100% Mr. Z. I think he does want Clark's life for himself, and the easiest way to get it would be to just take Clark's place with no one the wiser. I also like your theory on why Bizarro is seeking out Braniac as well. He needs him to stabilize his form, so he can be like Clark full time with no sunlight dodging. Otherwise, the only other reason that Bizarro would want to hook up with Braniac is for some evil plan, and that wouldn't fit in very well with the just-wanting-to-take-over-CK's-life theory. I can see them having Bizarro get influenced by Braniac into doing evil things tho, no doubt.

[Jephael]

Right, like re-releasing Zod!

[Humdinger]

Originally posted by MrZeppo
And I think Clark had more of an affect on Bizarro than he knows. He told Lana that while he was gone, "Feelings, good or bad, they don't just disappear, no matter who you are."

I think in a twisted way, Bizarro wants Clark's life and friends. He loves Lana, and cares for Chloe, but I'm sure he'll become twisted. He is Bizarro afterall. He doesn't have Clark's recent memories since he was created. He seemed too happy that Brainiac may be around. I think he wants control over his form and the ability to be out in sunlight and he'll need help with that.

I agree with Mr. Z, too. My only caveat is that I think Bizarro is using ALL of them to achieve his own ends. He may have feelings for Lana (OMG not another one!), but I think in the end it won't matter.

[Chlarker2008]

ok what I don't understand is if Biz has all of Clark memories, then how could Chloe tell the different?

[LovelyLoisLane]

Originally posted by litew8
What I don't understand -
If BiZaRrO has all of Clark's memories -
How does he know what Kryptonian sounds like?
Not only that - How can he translate it into symbols but not
understand what it means!

How is that even possible? Anyone?

Well he supposedly has all of Clark's memories but then he was his own person before he even came in contact with Clark. So the 'knowing Kryptonian' doesn't really surprise me. He spent, however long it was, in a Kryptonian Zone Prison after all.

That was one of the things to clue me in that it wasn't Clark. He knew Kryptonian a lot better than Clark did. I thought it was BrainIAC though, not Bizarro. So I was surprised in the end.

[Imzadia]

Well, I agree with those of you who believe that Bizarro only has Clark's memories that were intact at the time of his cloning/copying. Bizarro is supposed to be a 'failed' Kryptonian science 'experiment' according to the information given to him by MM. Bizarro also told Lex that he'd only used a 'few' cells from Clark to become as he is, so everything else about him was already there as part of the experiment.

MM said that Bizarro had been Abandoned early on and dismissed to the PZ as a Phantom. He obviously doesn't have any regard for human life and his only instincts are about Survival. He wanted Clark's life, so now, somehow, he's living it.

I'm thinking that he doesn't understand the 'feelings' attached to some of Clark's memories, but he understands their importance to Clark, especially those memories of the people in Clark's life.

After the 'reveal' at the end of 'Gemini' of Clark really being Bizarro, I wondered how he knew Anything about Kara, since Clark learned of her existence after Bizarro's forced exile to the sunny side of Mars. When Clark/Bizarro returned and Lana asked him whether or not he'd found Kara, I thought it 'Odd' that he was so nonchalant about not being able to find her...and "moving on". Other than in that scene, I thought he was true to Clark's character.

I agree with 'superhippie2000' that he only saved Chloe to hold onto his 'good guy' image, And for her computer skills. I think he would like to become allied with Fine/Brainiac so that he'd be able to kill Clark and permanently take over his life. Brainiac and Bizarro are both embedded with Kryptonian knowledge because they were both created on Krypton, so they have that advantage over Clark.

When Kara recovers her memory, she could be the advantage that Clark will need to outwit the Bizarro/Brainiac team. It's a good mystery to be sure, IMHO. I'm just wondering what's really going on with the Frozen Clark at the FOS. It would be ridiculous for Jor-El to simply have him frozen while time passed idly by. One of you here said that Clark will return as the same BDA he has been, but if that Would be the case, IMO, there would be no beneficial or logical purpose to his imposed chastisment. : \