Who was stuck in the crystal chamber, Clark or another Bizarro?

[Mr. Clark Kent27]

Well I think that was another Bizarro. Bizarro is doing it, making more copies of himself which I wouldn't want him to do. Only one Bizarro is good! Okay, he seemed frozen, yes, he was smiling...it does look more like it though that at the end of Blue, something happened then in Gemini, Clark returned to Smallville from the Fortress after so long then, Bizarro came back and left Clark in a trap in the Fortress.

Okay then again, why would Bizarro save Jimmy and Chloe? Well maybe sometimes it was Clark and sometimes it was Bizarro. Maybe Bizarro is pretending to be good and is fooling everyone. I thought the rumor about Bizarro coming back on Gemini was bullsh*t, but everyone was right.

So who do you think that was trapped in there? I guess it's Clark or another Bizarro.

[dru-zod2501]

definitely Clark

[paolinki25]

Clark, and I saw that the FOS was pretty damn dark, maybe Brainiac has taken over the fortress, trapped Clark, destroyed AI Jor-El and released Bizarro.

[Mr. Clark Kent27]

Hmm, that might be better, but still Bizarro trapping Clark is hilarious. The idea is jusr great. Clark...oh no, trapped. Bizarro think HA HA HA!

[Mello Penelo]

It was Clark in there. And it's good too. Let the world go to sh!t because Clark can't quit going goo-goo over Lana. More power to Jor-El.

But I don't think Clark getting locked in there and Bizzaro coming back are connected. Bizzaro came back at the right time under the right circumstances.


Originally posted by Mr. Clark Kent27
Hmm, that might be better, but still Bizarro trapping Clark is hilarious. The idea is jusr great. Clark...oh no, trapped. Bizarro think HA HA HA!

Bizzaro didn't trap Clark. Jor-El did. It's his punishment. It's coincidence Bizzaro picked now to come back with no Clark around.

[Charissa70]

Yeah, I think it was Jor-el , as a punishment for not doing what he says. Or maybe its the kryptonian way of training? Anyway, Bizzaro and Lana are perfect for each other. Now Lana has someone to do her bidding, as long he isn't in the sun too much.

[chlark fan]

Yeah, it was Jor-El punishing Clark like he said at the end of 'Blue'. I don't know about Bizzaro and Lana being perfect for eachother since Bizzaro is probably only acting like he has feelings for Lana to be more convincing as Clark.

[Theshadow129x]

It was Jor-el that put Clark in there, not Bizarro. It's a coincidence that he showed up when he did. Personally I agree with Mello and think its a good thing Clark is stuck in the fortress, because he wouldnt do what he should be doing if he knew Lana was thinking about him. Its always come down to the world going to crap because Clark is thinking of Lana. Good job Jor-el.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

So obviously Clark, if it wasn't that would have meant an entire episode 100% without refrence to Clark. At least we got 7, maybe 8 seconds of Clark this show.

[lauraforever]

Totally Clark, with him getting 'punished' in "Blue". If it had been Clark he would have totally said something to Chimmy... and I was wondering why he said that Kara was gone, Bizarro had never met her, so why would he know about her? He could have said that to keep everyone fooled that it was Clark that returned... anyways, great episode!

[Joelito]

Omg! Whoo voted for "Another Bizarro" :lol:

[ballofsteel]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Clark, and I saw that the FOS was pretty damn dark, maybe Brainiac has taken over the fortress, trapped Clark, destroyed AI Jor-El and released Bizarro.

Or it was night time.:cool:

[Dri-Sa]

kinda obvious....


Originally posted by lauraforever
Totally Clark, with him getting 'punished' in "Blue". If it had been Clark he would have totally said something to Chimmy... and I was wondering why he said that Kara was gone, Bizarro had never met her, so why would he know about her? He could have said that to keep everyone fooled that it was Clark that returned... anyways, great episode!

He has all of Clark's memories, old AND new.

[nk_84]

Originally posted by Mr. Clark Kent27
Well I think that was another Bizarro. Bizarro is doing it, making more copies of himself which I wouldn't want him to do. Only one Bizarro is good! Okay, he seemed frozen, yes, he was smiling...it does look more like it though that at the end of Blue, something happened then in Gemini, Clark returned to Smallville from the Fortress after so long then, Bizarro came back and left Clark in a trap in the Fortress.

Okay then again, why would Bizarro save Jimmy and Chloe? Well maybe sometimes it was Clark and sometimes it was Bizarro. Maybe Bizarro is pretending to be good and is fooling everyone. I thought the rumor about Bizarro coming back on Gemini was bullsh*t, but everyone was right.

So who do you think that was trapped in there? I guess it's Clark or another Bizarro.


in what way sense or form did the show try and give us the impression that this was another bizz' frozen?

don't read into it so much, it was 100% Clark.

And it was ALL Bizz in this episode, he has clarks memories, what's he going to do give himself up and kill everyone? Please.

[DestinyAw8s]

^^I know, right? He made it abundantly clear that he thinks Clark did a p*** poor job with all that he'd been given, and that he (Bizzaro) would do things differently. Just how differently remains to be seen. So, of course he's not gonna mess it up from the get go.

Clark=popsicle, definitely.

[citizenlen]

There's a lot of loopholes. Ex: how does Bizarro know what Lex did to Lana? It's not common knowledge. Though the divorce was high profile, but he seemed to know enough about Clark's lifestyles. Did someone uploaded some info of Clark to Bizarro? I just don't think Jor-El will trap Clark, he knows Bizarro is evil but he can't let the world perish when Jor-El knows Clark is the only one capable of stopping Bizarro.

[londeaux]

I'm guessing that "computer" dad got angry at Clark for living up to expectation, so to punish him, he made a "crystal" clone of his son. Like with Lara and Zor-El.

Jor-El put Clark in a "learning" chamber to download "Kryptonian" knowledge. He made the copy to send in his son's stead, so no one will worry where he is.

[clana4everfan2]

Poor Clark! :(

[skully]

Originally posted by londeaux
I'm guessing that "computer" dad got angry at Clark for living up to expectation, so to punish him, he made a "crystal" clone of his son. Like with Lara and Zor-El.

Jor-El put Clark in a "learning" chamber to download "Kryptonian" knowledge. He made the copy to send in his son's stead, so no one will worry where he is. Interesting idea. I tend to agree with you on the "learning chamber" idea. Jor-El has got jack of Clark being a smart-ass and is now force-feeding him with knowledge. However I don't agree on the "crystal clone". It was definitely Bizarro. How he showed up as Clark was put on a deep-freeze learning sabbatical will no doubt be explained in coming episodes. Maybe Brainiac is involved. But I'm glad Bizarro is back - it gives great potential for future super-battles between Clark and Bizarro.

[wildenchantress_kt]

The force feeding him with knowledge is a load of crap. Plot wise it would be too easy because then when Clark finally escapes he would know everything. Plus even if Clark knew everything he probably wouldn't do anything about it because he hardly ever does what Jor-El wants him to do (he only follows the orders he was planning on doing anyway).

It has something to do with the fight between Clark and Jor-El at the end of Blue. Jor-El said that Clark's defiance would not go unpunished and imprisoned Clark in the crystal. Bizarro who may have been back on Earth and spying on Clark used this moment to his advantage and after Clark was imprisoned in the crystal went back to Smallville.

I would have been a risky plan unless he was spying on Clark for a extended period of time. Waiting until everyone was at their weakest point: Clark was captive in the fortress, Kara was nowhere to be found. With Chloe and Lana having no clue what was going on he could feed them any story as Clark and they would naturally believe it. At the end of Blue Clark would have been so emotionally drained that Lana and Chloe would know what he was going through losing his family yet again. All Bizzarro would have to say that because of Zor-El he lost Lara and Kara and they would feel sorry for him and not really push him for details.

[red_cape_7]

i didn't even think there was a question about this. definitely clark

[MidgardDragon]

It was Clark. Jor-El trapped him there as punishment for disobeying him. He didn't realize Bizarro would be freed, however.

[ClareKent]

It's a nice theory, but I'm 99.9% that's Clark trapped in the chamber as a kind of punishment, but the idea of "teaching" him a lot about Krypton that way it's interesting.

[timbojill]

There is no proof that fine and Brianic is working with each other.

[pfrocker18]

timbojill
sorry to burst ur bubble but fine IS brainiac,and I agree that whilst the keyptonian learning is the best Idea I've heard in a long time it would be too easy,however it would make a tariffic story tho,after Clark comes out the LC he knows how to fly and now he and bizarro can have aerial battles..cool...Anyway I think that if Jor-el could've forced Ck to learn he would've done it already.But I'm 99.999999999% sure that thats CK in the crystal.Question..where the flip is Jonn Jonz?,and how did Bizzaro return from wherever he put him?

[xrayvision]

It was Clark. I believe Bizarro is the one who trapped him and did it by one of 2 ways:

1. Bizarro got back to Earth & the FOS in Blue and manipulated the controls of the FOS, perhaps while the blue crystal was still plugged in and activated a defense mechanism Clark has yet to learn about that traps intruders in a crystal column like Clark is trapped in now. Such a defense mechanism would be very feasible because it would be very useful for Superman later on if/when evil Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone show up in the FOS.

2. The consequences Jor-El spoke of was Kara's disappearance. He told Clark the only way he could find her is by completing his training, so Clark decided to start the training finally. As in Arrival, Clark was engulfed by a column/cone of energy & Kryptonian symbols. Bizarro showed up very soon after Clark's training started and Clark didn't see him because he was concentrating on the symbols and Bizarro (unlike Chloe in Arrival) did not do anything to break his concentration. Instead Bizarro used this to his advantage and deactivated the FOS in such a way that not only did the Jor-El AI & the training program get turned off, but the column/cone of energy that was engulfing Clark transformed into a crystal, perhaps by becoming devoid of energy and crystallizing the entire column of energy & everything inside it, namely Clark. This can also be due to Bizarro's reverse nature and how a surge of energy when Clark is using the FOS would mean a suction of energy when Bizarro did whatever he did to the FOS.

My main reason for not thinking Jor-El did this as punishment is that Jor-El usually knows what's going on as he did with Zod returning & Brainiac in season 5. So I'm 99% sure that he knows about Bizarro & Brainiac. And if this is true, then he would know that Bizarro has Clark's DNA and with Brainiac & that black crystal that he fooled Clark into inserting in Solitude, the 2 of them could easily destroy the FOS. Brainiac (which the black crystal is part of) would be the tool and would finally have someone with Clark's DNA who is evil and would be willing to insert the black crystal into the FOS and leave it in, this time destroying it while at the same time killing what seems to be a very vulnerable Clark. I don't think Jor-El would risk a punishment with such dangerous circumstances.

I made an entire thread about this theory:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83798

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by Mr. Clark Kent27
Well I think that was another Bizarro. Bizarro is doing it, making more copies of himself which I wouldn't want him to do. Only one Bizarro is good! Okay, he seemed frozen, yes, he was smiling...it does look more like it though that at the end of Blue, something happened then in Gemini, Clark returned to Smallville from the Fortress after so long then, Bizarro came back and left Clark in a trap in the Fortress.

Okay then again, why would Bizarro save Jimmy and Chloe? Well maybe sometimes it was Clark and sometimes it was Bizarro. Maybe Bizarro is pretending to be good and is fooling everyone. I thought the rumor about Bizarro coming back on Gemini was bullsh*t, but everyone was right.

So who do you think that was trapped in there? I guess it's Clark or another Bizarro.

LOL!

If there's a Bizarro version of Bizarro... is it just like Clark Kent? Or would that be an even more Bizarre Bizarro?

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[Imzadia]

It was Clark. I believe Bizarro is the one who trapped him and did it by one of 2 ways:

I made an entire thread about this theory:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83798

:)Well, 'xrayvision', it looks like you were RIGHT and the one who had the clearer Forsight about this 'riddle'. I don't know how accurate you will be about the "Details" of what happened in the FOS and 'HOW' it happened. What I DO know is that in the TV Guide Special "Sci-Fi" Preview Issue, there's an article about SMALLVILLE in it with some Spoilers about the questions posed by the surprise ending of "Gemini". TV Guide states, as we all now know as Devoted Smallville fans, there are still six new episodes that will air. TV Guide says, "...more than enough time for Clark (Tom Welling) to escape from the FOS, where Bizarro imprisoned him before posing as Clark. Bizarro crosses paths with another Kryptonian villain, Brainiac (James Marsters), who has returned from apparent death". Al Gough says, "Clark will have to deal with Brainiac's deadly new plan for the House of El". Whatever 'that' is, we'll have that to look forward to until the season's cliffhangar ending in episode 15 (if the WGA strike is not settled in time for more episodes to be written). ;) After reading Your theory, I'm really curious to find out what actually happened. :cool:

[Vergon6]

Yeah hopefully it will be thoroughly explained, including a short flashback.

[Mr. Clark Kent27]

I was so stupid. And of course it was Bizarro who saved Chloe and Jimmy, I mean he's taking his place which makes it more fun. It's just Clark looked like he was smiling inside the ice crystal, so I thought something bad was happening, that there were cloned Bizarro's. Hey that would be cool, then there would be that thing Bizarro # 1.

I know they have different Brainiac's. Like 2.1 or something. Milton Fine is the being he created right? So he could disguise as a human.