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ClarkyBoy14
12-13-2007, 08:14 PM
He created Grant so he could have a family member who he could have a mutual love w/ (and appearently someone to fence w/), and it seems like even he turned against him.

I sort of feel bad for Lex... :p

redeem147
12-13-2007, 08:17 PM
I always feel sort of sorry for Lex. Doesn't excuse him in the least, but he's had a crappy life.

Money can't buy everything, including a dead brother's love.

Bruce Knight
12-13-2007, 08:17 PM
I dont he brought it on himself, its karma he brings negitivity to himself by making things negitive(conducting expeariments and what not)

msleggie
12-13-2007, 08:19 PM
I kinda did b/c he's so alone, then again he did it to himself.

dru-zod2501
12-13-2007, 08:20 PM
why feel sorry, he's lex? though at the end, i thought i was watching the lexana scene in phantom again; i waiting for julian's "Lois means more to me than you ever will" followed by SLAP

Alexander III
12-13-2007, 08:22 PM
Lex's destined to be alone =)

ClarksGal
12-13-2007, 08:26 PM
I really love the way they write Lex Luthor on this show. He's so complex...he's literally a tragedy. Lex has lived his whole life without love, and everything that he has done has stemmed from it. Even though he's compeltely twisted in everything that he's doing, I can kind of still understand why he's doing it. The guy wants to fix all the wrongs in his life through sheer act of will, regardless of who he hurts in the process, or how wrong it is. And I can really see him retreating into his insanity.

Lex creating Julian actually finally makes the whole Lana clone thing make sense. I mean, I had an idea before about why Lex did it...I figured it had to do with Lexmas and if anything ever happened to the real Lana, he would have a backup Lana to love him. But the fact that even after the Lana outcome, Lex still went on to recreate his brother Julian...the direct source of his earlier mental breaks, and the reason that his father never loved him.

Wow.

KryptoKnight
12-13-2007, 10:03 PM
I do not feel sorry for Lex. He has had plenty of chances. He could have gotten his s**t together but made choices not to. Please don't blame Lana, that won't cut it.
I do feel sorry for Rosenbaum because he has not had a chance yet to play the real evil Lex although he has come close

BadToad
12-13-2007, 10:04 PM
I used to. But there comes a certain point where a character just does too many things that are really twisted and unforgiveable. He's truly a sick man.

Who
12-13-2007, 10:07 PM
Yes, I feel bad for him. He truly doesn't really know what love is. :(

Batman_Beyonder
12-13-2007, 10:22 PM
I feel sorry for Lex... Mainly because it took him this long to become the Bad a** Ve-lun (Hiro references), that we all know and love.

Karafan
12-13-2007, 10:50 PM
I felt bad for Lex. He desperatley wants to be loved. He's lost Clark,Lana,Lionel and now Grant(AKA Julian)

kentfamily
12-14-2007, 12:43 AM
Shouldnt Lex feel like a suicide about now? especially around the holidays with no family or friends?

Its sad that Lex is probably like his mother who had some kind of pyschological problem.

I dont feel sorry for Lex. He brought it onto himself. Hes jsu too complicated.

ginnyfan
12-14-2007, 12:48 AM
I do feel sorry for Lex.

I liked though, that Lex really takes care of himself. He doesn't seem as... torn about things as he's been in the past. I'm eager to see more development for him.

Alas. *sigh*

ClareKent
12-14-2007, 12:51 AM
I used to feel sorry for him but he's done some pretty horrible things lately, now with Grant/Julian, creating a "person", filling him with fake memories just to have someone to be important to...that's just too much :mad:...he should get a pet, maybe adopt Shelby since anybody pays him attention in the farm :lol:

CLanaF23
12-14-2007, 12:54 AM
hell no..lex is a jerk he gets wat he deserves..after wat he did to lana..i'll never feel sorry for him..he needs to die.

SweetOne
12-14-2007, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by KryptoKnight
I do feel sorry for Rosenbaum because he has not had a chance yet to play the real evil Lex although he has come close

That's exactly why I LOVE MR!! How easy is it to act if you only have to portray a simple straightforward all-out evil character. The "real evil Lex" is SO uncomplicated.

Michael is magnificent at playing a Lex luthor as "evil with a conscience". Pure evil is pretty one-dimensional but when you add a bit of humanity.....it makes his personality so much more intricate and fascinating. Like many people say, Lex creates so many tragedies and mistakes, but he thinks that he is doing "good". He doesn't see his actions as truly "evil" because he does them with good intentions or he thinks the result is worth the harm.

I find MR's Lex Luthor riveting. (partly from the character and partly from the acting!) I think that Michael is lucky to get to depict such an engrossing character.

Intriguing....gripping.....engaging...captivating. ALL are good words to describe Lex Luthor and MR. He was excellent in tonight's episode.

Jack-El49
12-14-2007, 02:49 AM
Truth be told, I feel sorry for Lex the same way I feel sorry for pit bulls that are bred to fight. You loathe the things they do but you feel sorry that some screwed up a$$wipe raised them to be that way.

Rosenbaum has done wonders in evoking sympathy for an evil character - he's just outstanding.

Randy G.
12-14-2007, 04:34 AM
I do find myself feeling sorry for Lex. He's just a product of bad choices, and bad endings. Rosenbaum plays him with a passion. We're supposed to feel somewhat sorry for him. That's what ties us to the character.
However, as his character builds, and becomes more evil, those ties become pushed to our subconscious. We're tied to his complex life, and can't help but watch him become the man we will love to hate.
It's like going by a car wreck. You can't help but look. ;)

Theshadow129x
12-14-2007, 05:18 AM
I've always felt sorry for Lex. It's one of the reasons why I've condoned alot of his actions because I would prolly be the same way if I had to go through what he went through.

Heilige
12-14-2007, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I do feel sorry for Lex.

I liked though, that Lex really takes care of himself. He doesn't seem as... torn about things as he's been in the past. I'm eager to see more development for him.

Alas. *sigh*



What do you mean by saying Lex really takes care of himself?

TheANIMAL (marcus)
12-14-2007, 07:07 AM
Lex wasn't as distraught by this becase he hasn't really lost Julian. Julian's just pissed off with him and unfortunatly is under Lex's business control.

Lex is still a few steps awat from becoming a complete and utter bastard legend.

Saber
12-14-2007, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Jack-El49
Truth be told, I feel sorry for Lex the same way I feel sorry for pit bulls that are bred to fight. You loathe the things they do but you feel sorry that some screwed up a$$wipe raised them to be that way.

Rosenbaum has done wonders in evoking sympathy for an evil character - he's just outstanding.

Well said and ditto that.
You hit the nail on the head with this statement. Lionel wanted a small version of himself. Lex’s mother was trying to counter act the verbal/mental abuse given by Lionel but instead was driven insane & maybe to her death. Seeing, hearing and living with those mix messages could drive anyone over the edge. I think Lex has learned that he is entitled to certain things because he is a Luthor. A Luthor is never denied and one of the things he wanted and still wants is love. No matter if, it’s genuine or created by him.

Rosenbaum rocks as Lex!

Jlvsclrk
12-14-2007, 03:37 PM
What a brilliant analogy Jack-El49! A pit bull raised to fight. So its somewhat his nature but even more so his nurture, courtesy of the Magnificent Bastard. Not to mention the damage done by Lillian: I've always thought that remembering what she did to Julian was the final straw. His mind surpressed that memory for a good reason.

Its always tempting to feel sorry for Lex: certainly I used to when he used to try so hard. Friendless for so much of his life, he was always utterly bewildered by the normal give and take of human relationships. Everything had to be epic for him. Clark was supposed to trust him absolutely: how dare he keep secrets!

But he had a choice and he didn't listen to Clark's warning in S3 about the danger of going after his father. And some of the things he's done since have been utterly despicable, most especially his treatment of people who were close friends. His contemptuous treatment of Clark, the fake pregnancy, and now custom creating Gabriel/Julian just so he will have someone to "love" him. And of course, he really doesn't understand why Clark / Lana / Julian all turn away from him: isn't his obsession and the lengths that he'll go to proof enough of his love? Why can't they just love him back? Behave the way he wants them to? Be grateful for everything he's able to give them? Stupid people: they get what they deserve. I'll just make something else to love. Next step is obviously a child, and of course as in the comics, he'll inevitably murder the mother of that child so he won't have to compete for the baby's affections.

And yes, I love this version of Lex far more than the cartoonish real estate tycoon from the movies, and even the comic book version. That's because although I hate what he's become, I can really see that he thinks that he's just horribly misunderstood and he'll wind up showing them all by saving the world one day.

KryptoKnight
12-14-2007, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by SweetOne
That's exactly why I LOVE MR!! How easy is it to act if you only have to portray a simple straightforward all-out evil character. The "real evil Lex" is SO uncomplicated.

Michael is magnificent at playing a Lex luthor as "evil with a conscience". Pure evil is pretty one-dimensional but when you add a bit of humanity.....it makes his personality so much more intricate and fascinating. Like many people say, Lex creates so many tragedies and mistakes, but he thinks that he is doing "good". He doesn't see his actions as truly "evil" because he does them with good intentions or he thinks the result is worth the harm.

I find MR's Lex Luthor riveting. (partly from the character and partly from the acting!) I think that Michael is lucky to get to depict such an engrossing character.

Intriguing....gripping.....engaging...captivating. ALL are good words to describe Lex Luthor and MR. He was excellent in tonight's episode.

I can't disagree with anything you say, but what I am saying, is that MR has been playing this character all these years - very well done, I might add - but I have a feeling he wants it to come to a climax and explode with the ferocity the true evil Lex might be. If that ever happens, it might be a signal the end of the series is in sight, though. That's why I feel sorry for MR; he surely wants to cap it off with a powerful performance that will top all his other performances.

All about Clark
12-14-2007, 04:59 PM
I really can't feel sorry for Lex. He's had so many chances and signals that showed he should have left his Luthor name behind and begin again a new. He never chooses the right course. Something he said in a episode about all the people were his toys to move around as he pleased, a child's game, however, it's what he believes, that no one has rights equal to Lex's, that he's privledged beyond everyone else. And by this point he's build up so much bad karma I can't believe anything will ever go right for him again, he's doomed to misery and his mom even warned him and he refused to listen. He never takes responsibility or blames himself or says I should have done different and these are the reasons I can never feel sorry for Lex.

Yes, I did like Jack49's analogy, but the difference is that a pit bull doesn't have a choice and Lex does, not to mention that pit has very little intelligience.

borednow
12-14-2007, 05:06 PM
Yeah I feel sorry for him. He just wants to be loved. He's evil, believes that the ends justify any means but... He's very lonely. I have known what it's like to be lonely, so I feel for him. That loneliness was well played here.

clana4everfan2
12-14-2007, 06:55 PM
I don't feel that sorry for Lex maybe in his early years before he became really evil. Karma is all I will say about Lex. haha :D

ClareKent
12-15-2007, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Jlvsclrk
Next step is obviously a child, and of course as in the comics, he'll inevitably murder the mother of that child so he won't have to compete for the baby's affections.

And yes, I love this version of Lex far more than the cartoonish real estate tycoon from the movies, and even the comic book version. That's because although I hate what he's become, I can really see that he thinks that he's just horribly misunderstood and he'll wind up showing them all by saving the world one day.

I'm wondering with all these clones, if Lex will try to create a clone of himself and Clark, that's something that happens in the comics, and the kid becomes Konner Kent/Superboy, who's kinda the child of the two of them.

I also love this Lex, nothing like Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey, they did well but their interpretations didn't scared me at all, in any moment I really believed that those Lex were evil or had a reason to be it.

Alexander III
12-15-2007, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by kentfamily
Shouldnt Lex feel like a suicide about now? especially around the holidays with no family or friends?

Its sad that Lex is probably like his mother who had some kind of pyschological problem.

I dont feel sorry for Lex. He brought it onto himself. Hes jsu too complicated.

If he doesn't mind, he could come to my family dinner during Xmas if he wants. Just don't kill me Lex and it'll be all fine!

chlark fan
12-15-2007, 12:12 AM
I don't feel sorry for Lex. He feels that because he is rich and powerful he can do no wrong. He tried to even get Julian/Grant to sympathize w/ him because he "just wanted to have a family". Meanwhile he's playing God and making (and killing) human beings just to feel loved. Boo Hoo!

smallvillefreak24
12-15-2007, 11:41 AM
I really do, he's just SOO messed up...

AngelaV
12-15-2007, 09:03 PM
No. I can't feel sorry for a guy who cloned his brother, clone ages too fast and then he KILLS the clone because hey he was a mistake! WTF? New clone better hope he doesn't start aging or big brother will kill him too.

aqgalaxy
12-15-2007, 10:29 PM
I do and I don't. Majority I don't, but I have a big heart...

SweetOne
12-16-2007, 12:10 AM
I do feel sorry for Lex. I always have and no matter what he does...I always will. *shrugs* I can't help it. The sheer depth of his lonliness makes my heart ache for him!

I feel more emotion for and attachment to Lex Luthor than I do any other character on the show. (but Chloe is a close second) I just want Lex to be happy. The guy is so danged miserable!!! I just wish that the others would give him the love and loyalty that he needs.

msleggie
12-16-2007, 04:18 PM
In a perfect world Lex would have what he needs, but even in that world Lex would probably screw that up too. When I start to feel bad for Lex, he goes and does something that just makes me change my mind.

Sweetie
12-16-2007, 09:19 PM
It's very sad actually.He's so scared to end up alone,it became one of his many obssessions.

Michael did a great job.He's becoming more and more like the real deal,physiquelly and mentally.I can see by his performance that he enjoyed it very much.

Serynarpc
12-16-2007, 09:33 PM
I feel bad that Lex's early years were full of rejection & isolation. Old Lionel sure was Daddy of young Napoleons.

Now though, he needs to hire a therapist and get over it. Cloning people isn't a pity tactic- its realizing your crappy at manipulating real people so you start way back with their very genes, feed them your line of BS- it's wrong.

Especially with how nonchalantly Lex 'dispatched' of his 'mistake'.

I felt sorry for Adrian & Grant.

mikelepore
12-18-2007, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by ClarksGal
I really love the way they write Lex Luthor on this show. He's so complex...he's literally a tragedy. Lex has lived his whole life without love, and everything that he has done has stemmed from it.

Yes, the way the comic book in the 1960s portrayed it was ridiculous: In high school, Clark accidentally makes a test tube explode in chemistry class, and the goop splashes on Lex's head. This makes Lex's hair fall out. Lex is so angry at Clark for making him become bald that he immediately changes from good to evil. That was poor writing. It's much better the way Smallville shows Lex's personality developing out of his life experiences.

WickedJenn
12-18-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
He created Grant so he could have a family member who he could have a mutual love w/ (and appearently someone to fence w/), and it seems like even he turned against him.

I sort of feel bad for Lex... :p

Maybe in the first few seasons I did, but I rarely do now.

He has his moments once in a while now, but mostly he's all about the power and what he can do for himself.

A person can have a hard life and still come out alright--be a good person, despite all they've been through.