Omg!!! Its Bizarro!

[SOnMyChest]

HOLY CRAP!!! i thought it was..but i was 100% sure...then the hug....and it was like ok ok ok here it come!!! The crackly face! and the smirk! BIZARRO CLARK!!! its him...Clark is frozen in the fortress! HOLY CRAP!!!

[Ilovebeinglost]

So I was wondering when Clark learnt how to fly when he flew up the elevator shaft but then we see it's Bazzaro!!!

Woohooo it wasn't Clark pouring his feeling for Lana it was Bazlana hahahaha:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Clark is frozen in the fortress and he has to stay there till Jan 31:p

I love Chloe's blouse, it's kind of a Dorothy wizard of Oz style.

I was so happy to see Jimmy and Chloe kiss, he loves her so much.

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
So I was wondering when Clark learnt how to fly when he flu up the elevator shaft but then we see it's Bazzaro!!!

Woohooo it wasn't Clark pouring his feeling for Lana it was Bazlana hahahaha:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I hope this means that line in the next ep.....:lol: ahhh it's all coming together!

[Twitch]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
So I was wondering when Clark learnt how to fly when he flu up the elevator shaft but then we see it's Bazzaro!!!
Haha yeah I was a little confused there too because they made it look like a super jump/fly, to trick the viewers again, but wow Bizarro! Awesome!

[Bruce Knight]

the thing is why did jor-el do that?

[myankskent]

So Jor-El froze Clark into a block of ice in the fortress so Bizarro can take Clark's place and screw things up. I'm sorry, but that is not my idea of a good twist. Although it's interesting and all of that, I don't see how this twist really helps any of the characters on this show.

[Twitch]

Originally posted by Bruce Knight
the thing is why did jor-el do that?
I was wondering the same thing, perhaps it wasn't Jor-El? I can't imagine Jor-El freezing his own son and then letting a monster loose in Smallville, just doesn't seem right.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Consequences, but why freeze his son? Maybe it's the only way he can make Clark take his training

[Nospam]

The "Bizarro" twist to the episode was pretty easy to deduce, or at least suspect, before hand considering the HUGE clue in the episode title, Gemini, meaning "twins."

Likewise that Julian is a clone, also a reference to the Gemini title.

[SOnMyChest]

who the hell edited my thread title...[spoiler deleted] this is the "CANADIAN" episode section....meaning we have already seen this episode already, thus making it old new now and not a spoiler....If people choose to enter this canadian section then they will be spoiled!....

[Poyntz]

I was thinking that clark didnt act clarkish but i thought it was just me imagining it until i saw the end.

The only thing i liked in this episode was the end really.

Sad to think that nice clark/chloe talk when clark told her that he needed her or something like she was important i cant remember the wording was just bizzaro though.

If this is bizzaro why would he be so conserned about saving chloe????

I did think that the stair well was a fly not a jump. he didnt even look like he started it as a jump he just went right up.

I dont know i'm rambling am i making any sense ? LOL

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Nospam
The "Bizarro" twist to the episode was pretty easy to deduce, or at least suspect, before hand considering the HUGE clue in the episode title, Gemini, meaning "twins."

Likewise that Julian is a clone, also a reference to the Gemini title.

Agreed, I had suspected both things as well. But I like the stories that way, so I don't mind them being predictable.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
who the hell edited my thread title...[spoiler deleted] this is the "CANADIAN" episode section....meaning we have already seen this episode already, thus making it old new now and not a spoiler....If people choose to enter this canadian section then they will be spoiled!....

Yes but when people click on getting all new posts everyone can see the title so we have to be careful. My thread was combined with this one and I was so excited I too forgot that people can still see the titles even if they don't come in here.
;)

[Nospam]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
who the hell edited my thread title...[spoiler deleted] this is the "CANADIAN" episode section....meaning we have already seen this episode already, thus making it old new now and not a spoiler....If people choose to enter this canadian section then they will be spoiled!....

It is one of the conditions of posting in this forum. All thread titles must not make overt references to any episode spoilers.

[Poyntz]

Doesnt that spoil the whole idea of sequestering us in one folder ? LOL

[Jory]

Originally posted by Poyntz
I was thinking that clark didnt act clarkish but i thought it was just me imagining it until i saw the end.

The only thing i liked in this episode was the end really.

Sad to think that nice clark/chloe talk when clark told her that he needed her or something like she was important i cant remember the wording was just bizzaro though.

If this is bizzaro why would he be so conserned about saving chloe????

I did think that the stair well was a fly not a jump. he didnt even look like he started it as a jump he just went right up.

I dont know i'm rambling am i making any sense ? LOL


Maybe Bizarro knows Chloe can heal? He could use that to his advantage. Sad that we didn't get to see her power evolve onscreen. I gues she touched Jimmy's hand and healed a cut.

What was your (anyone that has seen the episode) impression of Chimmy? Did it seem like they wanted to get back together, or is it friends only now?

[Ilovebeinglost]

I'm surprised that Bizaro would save Chloe but I guess he had to act like Clark right

[Nospam]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
Agreed, I had suspected both things as well. But I like the stories that way, so I don't mind them being predictable.

True. I think both are interesting twists, albeit predictable.

As you say, that doesn't mean the episode cannot be entertaining, however.

I have to say that I don't find Chloe's superpower as annoying as I first did, given the manner in which it has evolved. Tears of healing just plain sucks, a generalized healing power does not.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Nospam
True. I think both are interesting twists, albeit predictable.

As you say, that doesn't mean the episode cannot be entertaining, however.

If knowing how everything ends up bothered me, I don't think I could watch this show at all. :) I'd rather they deliver a good story than take the story down the most ridiculous turns just so it will be surprising. :)

[Nospam]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
If knowing how everything ends up bothered me, I don't think I could watch this show at all. :) I'd rather they deliver a good story than take the story down the most ridiculous turns just so it will be surprising. :)

Yes. Well put. Although this show has taken some ridiculous liberties in an attempt to maintain a level of novelty. Sometimes the most predictable course of action is the most entertaining, but not necessarily.

[Poyntz]

I dont know what i think of the chimmy.. ill have to watch the episode one more time.

Jimmy to me seemed a little coldish at times. Might of been the stress. But when he asked her why she thought she had to hide that from him i was screaming in my head ..." All those metor freaks being evil comments!!!! umm duh!!"

I really got the sence that chloe loves jimmy and did love him all this time.

Can chloe heal herself? I know she heals herself if she heals someone first. .but if she got a cut herself does she heal? and if so wouldnt she of noticed that before? Actually now that i think of it .. In Freak she had clark cut her collar bone.. and the next week was lana's wedding and she wore a strappless dress with no sign of her infliction.

Did anyone else feel chloe and lana were kind of cold and untrustingish towards each other. Maybe that threat is still on each others minds.

Ok i'm rambling agian.. just all my thoughts flowing out

excuse my spelling too tired to reread hope i'm making some sense lol

[SOnMyChest]

Originally posted by Poyntz
Doesnt that spoil the whole idea of sequestering us in one folder ? LOL

ding ding....thank you...

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
ding ding....thank you...

yeah I know because no matter what if they see any thread tonight they shouldn't read it if it's in Gemini thread

[paolinki25]

Ha! I totally knew it was Bizarro. The way he sounded in the description of the episode and in that Sprint clip...That's not Clark at all. This totally makes me believe the Clark in Persona is also Bizarro. I believe even Craig has confirmed this over at TWOP.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes. Well put. Although this show has taken some ridiculous liberties in an attempt to maintain a level of novelty. Sometimes the most predictable course of action is the most entertaining, but not necessarily.

Good point. I suppose there should be good judgment in either direction. :)

[spidey001]

so it was all lookin good and they go and pull that...
im gunna say im confused.

can't wait to see how they pull this one off.

[theotherJane]

I had a feeling it would be him after the Sprint clip.
This "twist" is by no means shocking. It's really predictable.

[dh1031]

I was so happy to see Jimmy and Chloe kiss Yuck!!! I think I'm gonna be sick!! :mad:

[Ilovebeinglost]

But he loves her so much

[Jory]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
But he loves her so much

What was your take on Chimmy? Also, was the kiss a "distraction" or a mutual kiss both were into? I've read that they left it open ended for Chimmy to ,possibly, get back together. It was Chloe that mentioned Kara, she (kind of imo) reminds Jimmy about Kara. Jimmy's reaction to the Kara mention was "Right." Hopefully Chimmy'll get back together.

[IamProdigy]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Ha! I totally knew it was Bizarro. The way he sounded in the description of the episode and in that Sprint clip...That's not Clark at all. This totally makes me believe the Clark in Persona is also Bizarro. I believe even Craig has confirmed this over at TWOP.

Weird that Jor-El froze Clark, but I guess it was the way Kryptonians ground their children, lol.

I don't think that Jor-El knew about Bizarro escaping though, I just doubt he did it so Bizarro could have his way with people. Weird though to have Bizarro wanting to save Chloe and that he goes to find Brainiac and Dax-Ur...can't wait to see the revelations though!

[paolinki25]

Maybe he's looking to team up with Brainiac or something. It has potential for a very interesting storyline.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by Jory
What was your take on Chimmy? Also, was the kiss a "distraction" or a mutual kiss both were into? I've read that they left it open ended for Chimmy to ,possibly, get back together. It was Chloe that mentioned Kara, she (kind of imo) reminds Jimmy about Kara. Jimmy's reaction to the Kara mention was "Right." Hopefully Chimmy'll get back together.

When they thought they were going to die Chlow told him her secret and he said as long as we are being honst and then he kissed her/ Later when all was ok Chloe said, ohh yeah when I think it's the end of the world I kiss the first guy around which isn't true and then she said " and there's Kara.

Jimmy said as most men would say, that wasn't about Kara

[Jory]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
When they thought they were going to die Chlow told him her secret and he said as long as we are being honst and then he kissed her/ Later when all was ok Chloe said, ohh yeah when I think it's the end of the world I kiss the first guy around which isn't true and then she said " and there's Kara.

Jimmy said as most men would say, that wasn't about Kara

What wasn't about Kara? The kiss? What was his reaction when Chloe told him about her power?

[Ilovebeinglost]

Yes the kiss and feelings he has for Chloe.

He just looked at her and then kissed her/ Later he said, why wouldn't you think I would understand about your power.

She healed his cut finger to show him what she can do. It wasn't tears just a touch which like everyone has said that is so much better to except

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
I'm surprised that Bizaro would save Chloe but I guess he had to act like Clark right

Well, Bizarro seems to have some of Clark's feelings as his own. He basically told Lana that at the end of the show (although I have to laugh that even Bizarro is in love with Lana). Maybe Bizarro also has feelings for Chloe...that originated from Clark but he still has them in there somewhere? Just a thought, but it would explain with a little more complexity than just that he needed her research. Although it's entirely possible that he just needed her research. :)

[theotherJane]

Jor-El turned Clark into a popsicle?

Oh, please let it be true. LMAO!

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I'm sorry. But who honestly didn't see that coming a mile away?

[Bulleteer]

I thought his jacket was a darker color than normal.

[kentfamily]

I missed the last part of the show, what happened?

Bizarro told Lana he loved her?

[Timester]

Originally posted by Nospam
The "Bizarro" twist to the episode was pretty easy to deduce, or at least suspect, before hand considering the HUGE clue in the episode title, Gemini, meaning "twins."

Likewise that Julian is a clone, also a reference to the Gemini title.

Smallville became way too predictable since season 4 (I mean, even before season 4 started, we already knew that the FOS would appear on season 4 finale...)

After seeing some clips, I doubt that Bizarro and Jor-El are connected. Bizarro is mainly interested on Lex, because he knows that Lex might have something that Bizarro needs (we don't know yet what). So Bizarro goes to the person that has the insight of Lex's ops, his ex-wife Lana.

Bizarro isn't the one that brings the Kara issue, Lana is, so is easy for him to know Clark was looking for someone named Kara and he can lie about it. That's why I doubt he is connected to Jor-El.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I don't like and have never cared for, the Bizzaro character in this show.
I am confused about his "weakness" in the sun light, is it here or not ?
One hopes that the "gray areas" will be cleaned up in the coming episodes.

Just really don't see a purpose or need for this character at all.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin


Just really don't see a purpose or need for this character at all.

It's just a way to prolong the show from ending

[Doctor Who]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
I don't like and have never cared for, the Bizzaro character in this show.
I am confused about his "weakness" in the sun light, is it here or not ?
One hopes that the "gray areas" will be cleaned up in the coming episodes.

Just really don't see a purpose or need for this character at all.

Confusing about the sunlight affecting Bizzaro in this episode?

Don't worry. This is perfect way for him to come back because there are not much sunlight in the winter. So hence that, we get lot of snowing and lot of darkness. Bizzaro can go out anytime!

That was well-planned.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Doctor Who
Confusing about the sunlight affecting Bizzaro in this episode?

Don't worry. This is perfect way for him to come back because there are not much sunlight in the winter. So hence that, we get lot of snowing and lot of darkness. Bizzaro can go out anytime!

That was well-planned.

Sunlight radiation is NOT filtered by clouds and snow...he would still feel its effects..

I know,I know, I am putting too much thought into it, probably because I am not a fan of that story line.

[dh1031]

But he loves her so muchJimmy has pretty much over Chloe, Kara's his gal now. Not surprising since Jimmy has been ga-ga over Kara since first seeing her at the corn festival.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

I hate it when young crushes and fairly casual dating is defined as "LOVE".

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by kentfamily
I missed the last part of the show, what happened?

Bizarro told Lana he loved her?

True story. Bizanna lives. :) Interestingly enough, Lana also told Bizarro that she has never felt closer to him. Ha!

Maybe there will be a triangle between Clark, Lana and Bizarro, and in the end Lana chooses Bizarro. That's what ultimately causes the Clana breakup!

[Hugo]

A love triangle with Bizarro would be iintresting.
Who do you think will discover that Bizarro is in Smallville and not Clark. Does anybody think that this storyline could be carried on until the series finale or maybe Hero, where Pete discovers Bizarro and must save Clark as well?

[theotherJane]

Originally posted by dh1031
Jimmy has pretty much over Chloe, Kara's his gal now. Not surprising since Jimmy has been ga-ga over Kara since first seeing her at the corn festival.

Um...no. Did you watch "Gemini?" It's pretty clear that Jimmy still has feelings for Chloe and she for him.

[Charissa70]

Okay, I missed last night-How long was/is Clark been on ice?

[theotherJane]

Originally posted by Charissa70
Okay, I missed last night-How long was/is Clark been on ice?

It looks like he's been away (frozen in the FOS) for 2 weeks, because Chloe leaves him a message saying "it's your daily freakout call. it's been 2 weeks and no call back."

[Twitch]

Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
I'm sorry. But who honestly didn't see that coming a mile away?
*Raises hand* I didn't see it coming. :lol:

But that's probably because I don't read anything about an episode before I watch it, no spoilers, no nothing. I don't even watch the previews for the next episode, I switch the channel when they come on, so I hadn't seen that Sprint preview that some people were mentioning either. And I usually avoid the forums until the day of the episode. I didn't even read the little description under the "Gemini" episode link when I came in for the countdown, so I had no clue about the bomb either lol. I like being surprised. :)

And honestly when I noticed that something was a little off about the way Clark was acting in the episode, I just sort of looked passed it and didn't think anything of it. It was very subtle, TW did a great job. I guess I didn't expect Bizarro to be back so soon.

[niki]

Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
I'm sorry. But who honestly didn't see that coming a mile away?

:\ I'll admit, just like Twitch, I really didn't.
But that's because all I saw was the trailer for this episode with the bomb, I didn't read into any spoilers or anything, plus, not watching 'Smallville' for 3 weeks kinda makes me more open to being shocked and whatnot.

That's why -- Julian being a clone created by Lex? *GASP* SHOCKER!
Clark not actually Clark but Bizarro? *GASP* DOUBLE SHOCKER!

And umm ... this pains me a little to admit, but one of the main reasons I thought Clark might not be Clark was because his hair was different. LOL. I know, that's sad, he could've clearly just gotten a haircut. But combine that with the way he was acting, he seemed a little too interested in Lex and didn't mention ANYTHING about the Fortress. I was like, "Ehhh?"

[Alexander III]

DAMN, this is the first time I missed the show. It seems like all Canadians enjoyed the show last nite! I was studying last nite! Sad! I wish Clark stays buried in that ice !!!

[Twitch]

Originally posted by niki
And umm ... this pains me a little to admit, but one of the main reasons I thought Clark might not be Clark was because his hair was different. LOL. I know, that's sad, he could've clearly just gotten a haircut. But combine that with the way he was acting, he seemed a little too interested in Lex and didn't mention ANYTHING about the Fortress. I was like, "Ehhh?"
His hair, haha! Funny you mention that, didn't Jimmy make a comment about his hair in the elevator? It was something like "What is Clark going to do about the C4? Dismantle it with his great hair?" I laughed so hard. :lol:

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Twitch
*Raises hand* I didn't see it coming. :lol:

But that's probably because I don't read anything about an episode before I watch it, no spoilers, no nothing. I don't even watch the previews for the next episode, I switch the channel when they come on, so I hadn't seen that Sprint preview that some people were mentioning either. And I usually avoid the forums until the day of the episode. I didn't even read the little description under the "Gemini" episode link when I came in for the countdown, so I had no clue about the bomb either lol. I like being surprised. :)

And honestly when I noticed that something was a little off about the way Clark was acting in the episode, I just sort of looked passed it and didn't think anything of it. It was very subtle, TW did a great job. I guess I didn't expect Bizarro to be back so soon.

I wish I had your willpower. I can't stop myself from reading the spoilers. I love the show, but I bet I would love it even more if I could stop myself from knowing everything ahead of time. :)

I agree that TW did a great job. Even thought I expected Bizarro, I still wasn't sure when I watched his performance. Very subtle!

[Bulleteer]

I should have realized it wasn't Clark when he couldn't read Kryptonian and got Chloe to do it for him. Duh

[erikamichelle614]

holy crap holy crap holy crap. haha

[JEWCY]

every week there is a wow factor

but

WOW

this show just keeps getting better

[Aries83]

Holy ****! I did NOT see that coming! This episode was so good! I normally don't say that, but damn, this has been one of best episodes since Bizarro...Wow....

[Krypton935]

I CANT BEILIVE THIS!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i CAN'T WAIT TILL JAN.

[SeaNymph]

HOLY CRAP! I did NOT see that coming!

[sgreen236]

Sweet. I never saw that one coming.

[Superman08]

omg i didnt see that coming that was just WOW i cant bealive it

[Krypton935]

HOLY ****ING ****!!!!!!!

[BROKENTOS]

Awesome, flat out awesome.

[xrayvision]

I knew it. I knew that wasn't Clark. There's no way Clark would behave like that (give up on Kara, urge Lana to continue Isis, etc).

[Aries83]

What a shocking twist...I felt like I was watching the season finale!...Hopefully, they've got even more up their sleeve despite the strike...Wow...

[Insight]

I thought Clark was acting weird early in the ep. The whole "let's take Lex down together" just seemed out of character.

[biggkoz]

I started thinking at the end so what the hell happen to this punishment thing? haha

[TECHWON]

This season is just jawdopping i guess they learned from the lag that was season 5 adn i just went omg! that bizzaro is back and milton fine is coming back but i still didn't see this coming

[Jeri1250]

Yep, as soon as Clark stepped into the barn I knew it wasn't him! Too cool.

[Aries83]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I knew it. I knew that wasn't Clark. There's no way Clark would behave like that (give up on Kara, urge Lana to continue Isis, etc).

True, but why would he save Jimmy and Chloe?

[Markd329]

Holy frakin switcheroo!!!!!

How in hell did Bizarro escape from Mars??????????

[SuperSerena]

so where did he come from if he was sent to the sunny side of Mars? and why the hell would Jor-el ever let Bizarro take Clarks place. Thats just asking for trouble.

[erikamichelle614]

You know, I was thinking that clark wouldn't willingly go after lex like that, but i didn't think anything crazy about that. but why would he save chloe?

[Jeri1250]

Well, because even Bizarro is still Clark.

[gameface25]

this wasn't even in the spoilers huh? I just crapped my pants

that was the best twist in smallville history

I kept wondering, what happened with the whole punishment thing

[Aries83]

Yeah, but...He inherently leans more towards evil, which is why saving Chloe doesn't make sense...

[Polomontana]

I thought it wasn't Clark but I wasn't sure. His smile came in odd places. He was smiling when he was talking to Chloe about Braniac and he was smiling when he was talking about taking down Lex.

[SVfan4ever]

OMG! I totally did not see that coming. Julian-clone yes, but Bizarro-no.

[erikamichelle614]

ahhhh im so excited. i was hoping to see clark banging on the ice, like he banged on the pz.

[GOSMALLVILLE]

WOW I can't believe that was not Clark

[SeaNymph]

I kind of wonder if it's because Chloe has a lot of knowledge about things and he needs her for something.

[Polomontana]

That's a good question about Chloe. Why would he save Chloe and how would he know Chloe knows his secret and Jimmy didn't?

It's a good ending but that leaves a huge plothole.

[realblackhart]

this is a bizzare episode, pardon the pun but it was a great one. Why Bizzaro would save Chloe remains to be explained, but it came outta nowhere. The Martian Manhunter has some explaining to do. I hope the stupid writers' strike is over soon, so the writers could write more episodes because with episodes like this one for this season means the intended season finalle rather then ending it just because of the strike incredible.

[miks]

I find it funny that Lana feels closer to Clark now that it's not Clark hehe

He may have saved Chloe to get information from her, and to keep up the facade

[BROKENTOS]

When did BClark switch with the real Clark?

[FiveForFighting09]

i knew something was up. "clark" was acting weird the whole episode and then...and then...!!!!! dlkajgflkaglh. yep. at the end i was OMG OMG OMG!

[CallMeClark]

I still in shock that this spoiler wasn't leaked! I love it!

[Darth Pipes]

I had a feeling that wasn't Clark. He was way too competant and alert. He acted like someone who had learned from his mistakes and we know Clark never does that.

He needed Chloe to translate what was being said. He's only keeping her alive to suit his own purposes I guess.

[FiveForFighting09]

Originally posted by miks
I find it funny that Lana feels closer to Clark now that it's not Clark hehe

He may have saved Chloe to get information from her, and to keep up the facade

that's what i'm thinking. I say that that's the reason Lana belongs on the dark side. She likes Bizarro-Clark more than good Clark.

[realblackhart]

i think that is the best part of it, that everything that was spoiled about the episode and the particular part didn't leak out

[adromidon]

I saw that he was acting strange that and the fact that he flew up the stair well.

The question I have is did Bizzaro save chloe because he cared or because he was trying to convince Lana that he was Clark

[miks]

Originally posted by FiveForFighting09
that's what i'm thinking. I say that that's the reason Lana belongs on the dark side. She likes Bizarro-Clark more than good Clark.

Fine by me, bring on the bizana:D

[Kal-EL1126]

Originally posted by Aries83
Holy ****! I did NOT see that coming! This episode was so good! I normally don't say that, but damn, this has been one of best episodes since Bizarro...Wow....


I have to say that I wasn't that impressed with this episode.I think that the last 3 minutes of the show were the best. Usually I'm sitting on the edge of my seat through the whole episode. But this time I waiting for some real excitment....that didn't happen until bizarro blinked in.

[MixTKO]

I was shocked to see Bizarro at the end. Did he put Clark on ice or did Jor-el?

[luvinChlark]

Bizzaro Clark!! Although Clark was acting suspicous throughout this entire episode. But why was Bizzaro being nice to Lana? Like did he really have to kiss her? I thought he was the opposite.

[erikamichelle614]

the only time lana feels close to clark is when he is evil.. like her.

[Welling21]

i knew it was bizarro as soon as clark finished talking to lana when he first came back. i noticed that his facial expressions when talking were completely different from Clark's. and the rest of the ep, he was very reserved and expressionless. i knew it had to be bizarro! the ending look was sooo classic. loved it :)

however, i do wish there was more clark uh, i mean bizarroclark lol

[babyluthor]

That was a great twist at the end. Now I have to watch the episode again with a Bizarro point of view hehe.

[reobeem]

The sudden change in his personality was a give away. Now I want to see "Persona" even more.

[MixTKO]

Originally posted by babyluthor
That was a great twist at the end. Now I have to watch the episode again with a Bizarro point of view hehe. I'm gonna start it over and watch again too

[TheLightOfKrypton]

I only caught the last ten minutes and boy was i excited about them. the official pronouncement of brainiac's return and the twist that is bizarro. i was shocked big time to see bizarro, but so excited at the same time. it's too bad we have to wait until the end of january to get more info.

[erikamichelle614]

Originally posted by babyluthor
That was a great twist at the end. Now I have to watch the episode again with a Bizarro point of view hehe.

im doing the same.

[adromidon]

Makes you wonder now if the Clark shown in the images for the remaining episodes are Clark or Bizzaro. what if he stays in ice the entire season

[NoSupeForYou]

I think Clark comes back next episode, but not before Bizzaro tells Lana he's so happy he thinks he can fly.

You would think Clark has to come back before Green Arrow shows up. I think the title "Persona" gives it away. Bizzaro has assumed a persona by pretending to be Clark.

[boocherhix]

Loved that twist!! I love it that I can know some spoilers and still be happily surprised by somethings at the same time. That ending rocked!!

[Gre-El]

The weird thing is, Bizarro must know that CK is trapped in the ice. It would be pointless to try to act like CK if the real CK could just walk through the door at any time.

[Ryan0617]

I thought at the beginning something was up, just seemed like clark wasnt the same clark, i honestly thought someone was acting below par this episode then the twist hit me. I didnt like the episode as a whole in retrospect, but i did like the new edge to the clark/slow motion scene when he jump/flew up the staircase.

Then when bizzarro twist was reveal, i was literally like "ITS BIZARRO!!" Aint been so pumped up about an ending in a while.

[adromidon]

yeah it was cool

[espn_justin]

Jor-el probably didn't know that bizarro was back, so i bet when he finds out he's going to unleash clark again, or the martian manhunter will.

[Khyla]

Bizarro is HOT!
I had no clue til the end it was him.:eek: I thought , Wow! Clark looks like he just came back from a spa retreat somewhere tropical or somethin'; his features and complexion, all looked more defined and rejuvenated somehow, and his hair looked thicker, darker, more lush :p , and he just oozed self-confidence, and seemed like he had a purpose for once. :) I thought to myself, he must have been given some training in the Fortress.
(Even the fact that he flew, not jumped up through the DP stairwell didn't make me think he wasn't Clark.)

[darkkrypton81]

So what's this pairing going to be called?

"Bizana?!"

[Chlarker2008]

I knew it was him! it was just something about Clark that just wasn't right!

[bluesolarflare]

Im surprised that no one noticed from the very begining that Clark was wearing a BLUE JACKET! It was a dead giveaway..

[Who]

Originally posted by darkkrypton81
So what's this pairing going to be called?

"Bizana?!"

Bizana rules!!

[Mini Wolfsbane]

What a twist! :P

I was a upset they didn't do anything with Kara's storyline,
and most of the episode didn't strike me as all that great,
but this little twist was a good way to get me excited again.

Shame it had to be at the end of the episode, though.

[BadToad]

Im surprised that no one noticed from the very begining that Clark was wearing a BLUE JACKET! It was a dead giveaway..

Yeah, but he's been wearing the blue jacket on and off all season. For instance, he wears it a lot in Cure, even when he was saving Chloe and doing heroic stuff.

[Odysseus]

The twist honestly shocked me. The whole episode I thought "Clark seems a bit off."

I assumed that Jor-El had "reprogrammed" Clark into Kal-El again, like in "Crusade." And then at the end, I thought it was just another sappy/annoying Clana scene...and then the awesome reveal of Bizarro smirking at his victory. Awesome. :D

And yes, Bizlana is awesome. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Bizarro suggests to Lana that they fly off to a deserted island to live and Lana gleefully accepts and hops into his arms as he flies off and takes Lana away from Smallville forever. :lol:

[theotherJane]

Originally posted by BadToad
Yeah, but he's been wearing the blue jacket on and off all season. For instance, he wears it a lot in Cure, even when he was saving Chloe and doing heroic stuff.

The impression that we got from the show is that he's been away for 2 weeks and that he went to look for Kara right after that whole FOS scene at the end of Blue.
Unless he superspeeded & packed his other blue jacket for his short trip, that was a dead-give-away.

[Chokito]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
HOLY CRAP!!! i thought it was..but i was 100% sure...then the hug....and it was like ok ok ok here it come!!! The crackly face! and the smirk! BIZARRO CLARK!!! its him...Clark is frozen in the fortress! HOLY CRAP!!!

yeah thats what i thought

[Kal-EL1126]

Originally posted by Welling21
i knew it was bizarro as soon as clark finished talking to lana when he first came back. i noticed that his facial expressions when talking were completely different from Clark's. and the rest of the ep, he was very reserved and expressionless. i knew it had to be bizarro! the ending look was sooo classic. loved it :)

however, i do wish there was more clark uh, i mean bizarroclark lol


I was wondering why throughout like the whole episode it seemed like Clark was mumbling like he was still recovering after getting his wisdom teeth pulled out.....LOL. It was either that or he was wearing a bad microphone. And I also have to agree that there was nowhere near enough Clark (Bizarro) scenes in this one.

[Billy Jor-El]

Pardon the fact lousy dial-up service keeps me from reading all the posts, especially right after the ep (I'll hit the wi-fi cafe tomorrow), but my 2 cents, and seeing some of the posts, others thought the same.

I knew Clark seemed different from moment 1, but didn't get overly suspicious right away. Then the smirk to Lana, even the look he had at Chloe and Jimmy in the elevator kept saying "this ain't Clark!" Then the finish and I scared my cats again :D shouting out "I KNEW IT!!!"

Great ep.

Looks like they're re-running it again next week according to my schedule, and nothing new until January. OK, maybe the writers will come back into the fold by then, eh? ;)

[erikamichelle614]

Originally posted by BadToad
Yeah, but he's been wearing the blue jacket on and off all season. For instance, he wears it a lot in Cure, even when he was saving Chloe and doing heroic stuff.

what are you talking about.. he wears blue jackets all the time.. i was saying that it was a dark blue..

[Kal-EL1126]

Originally posted by MixTKO
I was shocked to see Bizarro at the end. Did he put Clark on ice or did Jor-el?


I think Jor-El put Clark on ice and released Bizarro from Mars. This would be the consequence for Clark, for Bizarro to go back to smallville and create more havoc for Clark to have to go back and fix once he unmelts.

[Ginx]

That end scene made this ep for me - the end where Bizarro is revealed to us :) - Can't wait to see what happens...... I knew CK was acting all strange - and now it's explained..... so cool. Hope they tell us how Bizarro got the upper hand though - I doubt Jor-El helped put CK on ice.

[MaleMan]

Am I the only one who prefers Bizarro Clark over the real one? I mean, this Bizarro Clark did almost everything the real Clark did. He saved Chloe and Jimmy, and to me, he seemed just like the real one, only better.

I think I like this Clark more.

[Humdinger]

Originally posted by Twitch
I was wondering the same thing, perhaps it wasn't Jor-El? I can't imagine Jor-El freezing his own son and then letting a monster loose in Smallville, just doesn't seem right.

My son has this theory that it's not Jor-El at the fortress but Zor-El, who is guiding Clark and attempting to turn him. If you recall, Zor-El tried to get Lara to join him and rule the Earth with him when they were at the Kent farm. Le son thinks it's Zor-El's voice on the crystal that told Clark he was born to rule the Earth. Mayhap he's right about that. In any case I love the Bizarro twist, I'm all for super baddies, the season's getting boring.

[NoSupeForYou]

I think Jor-el did freeze Clark and release Bizzaro. Clark can't admit to most that he has a clone of his own wandering about so any damage Bizzaro does to his life would be difficult to undo.

I think that Jor-el has some control over Bizzaro and that's why Bizzaro is going to seek out Brainiac.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by MaleMan
Am I the only one who prefers Bizarro Clark over the real one? I mean, this Bizarro Clark did almost everything the real Clark did. He saved Chloe and Jimmy, and to me, he seemed just like the real one, only better.

I think I like this Clark more.

While I don't like the Bizzaro storyline, he does make a better Clark and Clark does.
Sad eh?

[adromidon]

Again though I wonder if Bizzaro was even bizzaro what if Jor-EL possesed Bizzaro? That way he could personaly ruin his life

[Toffa]

I thought TW's acting had gone a bit 'down the drain' at first, but that cliffhanger solved that riddle for me :)

I hope Clark starts acting a bit more like Bizarro from this episode beacause HE was more Supermanly

[adromidon]

maybe that is how he will get his spine back Bizzaro will some how rub off on him

[Dri-Sa]

Originally posted by Nospam
The "Bizarro" twist to the episode was pretty easy to deduce, or at least suspect, before hand considering the HUGE clue in the episode title, Gemini, meaning "twins."

Likewise that Julian is a clone, also a reference to the Gemini title.
Yea it wasn't very difficult to see it was Bizarro,
There is something about the way he talks and the way he looks.

[boywithbluehanger]

Is Bizarro trying to steal Clark's life?! And if so, why?! I loved that twist though, I can't believe I finally watched an entire episode w/o any Clark scenes.

I'm interested how Bizarro and Brainiac will play into what seems to be a possible team up effort to either conquer Earth or to complete Zod/Brianiac's plan to use Clark.

I'm guessing Bizarro's phantom knew the Zod phantom. Since the only degree of separation in the PZ from one another was Brainiac (whom Bizarro seems heavily interested in at the moment).

Bizarro's so badass...:D

[Toffa]

This is a link to my theory thread. Have a look if you like, but BEWARE OF POSSIBLE SPOILERS!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3504335#post3504335

(You have been warned! :P)

[citizenlen]

So is Bizarro and Lana going to have hot alien sex, now? Seriously, Bizarro is more err aggressive. There goes the baby Bizarro.

[adromidon]

lol I would love to see the look on both Clark and Lana's face when Lana finds out her soon to be baby was with Bizzaro and not Clark

[citizenlen]

Telling you, if that happen..Lana is really going psycho permanently. Can you say the baby from V coming out of her? lol

[luvinChlark]

Originally posted by bluesolarflare
Im surprised that no one noticed from the very begining that Clark was wearing a BLUE JACKET! It was a dead giveaway..

Actually I knew that because I had just watched "Blue" on my tivo. And when Clark was in the FOS at the end he was wearing the red jacket. But then he returns he's wearing the blue jacket? Very BIZZARE. :lol: Dead give away. :rolleyes:

[citizenlen]

Well Clark might have decided to change for the occasion. "Old man is going to punish me, let me change into something more dapper.":p

There was something fishy about it from the get go, but I was too tired to care until the end and I re-watched it. I did wonder why "Clark" seemed to be more proactive and less angst. Then he flew up the stairs was a dead give away. I was too tired to care and frankly, I was glad the whole Grant/Lois thing is over with. What a way for the writers to ruin Lois-making out in a closet. :rolleyes: A lot of smooching in this episode.

[NoSupeForYou]

Lois didn't even seem troubled that she got some poor UPS guy killed. That's why I love TV. No one misses the extras once they get to the next scene.

Of course, considering the body count for Smallville, what's one more dead guy.

I'm not surprised no one realizes that's Bizzaro or that the characters always discuss all kinds of things in that office so flipantly. All the reporters working for the DP are deaf, dumb and blind with all the mayhem that they miss.

Maybe we should start a thread of things you'll never hear at the DP, like...

"What happened to the UPS guy and has anyone seen my scissors?"

"Did you just hear a gunshot from the editor's office?"

"It's the Christmas party. Why do they have guys removing that rug from the editor's office at this time?"

"Why is there an out of order sign only on the basement doors of the elevator?"

"Did someone hear an explosion on the roof?"

Of course, it will make sense later on when these people fail to see through the worst disguise ever.

[Tacosupes]

Anyone who says they KNEW bizzaro was posing as Clark. Is a liar. PEople are so full of it. He never acted suspicious once. If anyone knew beforehand it was Bizzarro they read spoilers because they have no life. AND THE TITLE GEMINI DID NOT GIVE IT AWAY SINCE BIZZARRO WAS THROWN INTO DEEP SPACE AND PRESUMED DEAD. All these claims " I knew it all along" are pitiful BS. The only non Clark like thing he did was grow a Brain and decide to take down LEX. It pissed me off to find out the only intelligent move he made all season wasn't made by him at all. GREAT ending, and surprisingly one of the best episodes of the season. Now next some loser is going to claim he did deducted the endings to THE USUAL SUSPECTS, THE PRESTIGE, UNBREAKABLE, and THE SIXTH SENSE, right? Give me a break.

[xrayvision]

^^
Here is proof in case you think anyone who says they knew is BS'ing:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3502490#post3502490

The post time is 8:52PM Eastern Time (I'm in NY where Smallville is on from 8-9PM). That was before it was revealed to be Bizarro. I called it and it happened. I knew it as soon as he gave up on Kara. Clark is a dumb BDA, but he wouldn't let Kara rot. And his behavior was very strange. From that point on I knew it was Bizarro and was looking for more signs and got them one after another. There is also no way Clark would have supported Lana going after Lex.

You may not believe that there were people who picked up on the weird behavior early, but there were.

And Bizarro was not presumed dead. Many people here had been awaiting his return. Martian Manhunter did not kill him but took him someplace where he couldn't harm people.

You can say whatever you want, but I knew it was not Clark. I didn't need flight to prove it either. I watched this show for too long to not pick up that Clark would not leave Kara for dead. And I'm no liar. If I was surprised, I would have said it like I did with that Grant being revealed as Julian, which was a surprise.

[Khyla]

My reaction to the end was complete surprise!
I actually was pretty sure I was going to quit my interest in SV altogether .... UNTIL ... the Bizarro Reveal! Holy Christmas! They knew how to suck me right back and they did it in a few seconds at the end of the episode! :)


Originally posted by xrayvision
...I knew it as soon as he gave up on Kara. Clark is a dumb BDA, but he wouldn't let Kara rot. And his behavior was very strange. There is also no way Clark would have supported Lana going after Lex.
well,,, we have seen stranger things on SV , and we have seen Clark, as well as others. act completely OOC before, because that's how they were written. :\


And Bizarro was not presumed dead. Many people here had been awaiting his return.
True. Myself, included. :): Buit I thought there were other factors involved, like maybe Jor-El had something to do with the change in him....:
Originally posted by Khyla
Bizarro is HOT!
I had no clue til the end it was him.:eek: I thought , Wow! Clark looks like he just came back from a spa retreat somewhere tropical or somethin'; his features and complexion, all looked more defined and rejuvenated somehow, and his hair looked thicker, darker, more lush :p , and he just oozed self-confidence, and seemed like he had a purpose for once. :) I thought to myself, he must have been given some training in the Fortress.
(Even the fact that he flew, and didn;t jump up through the DP stairwell didn't make me think he wasn't Clark.)


Martian Manhunter did not kill him but took him someplace where he couldn't harm people.

you're thinking of Curtis Knox, the immortal. I'm pretty sure Clark just knocked Bizarro out of the earth's orbit ("to the sunny side of mars", remember? )

[LegendaryU2K]

Has anyone ever stop to think that it wasn't jorel that set bizzaro free, and that bizzare beat up manhunter and escape mars or whatever.?

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
Anyone who says they KNEW bizzaro was posing as Clark. Is a liar.

And then there's those of us like me who didn't care.

[Tacosupes]

youve been obsessing over CLARK fighting his KAL EL double since season 5 finale ended. Blabbing on and on ad nauseum about Clark needing to fight KAL EL ALL season long to comeplete his training. Since BIZZARRO can fly, his return is your fans wet dream. Since youve been droning on for about a year and a half about such a senario xray ,your so call prediction doesnt count. WISHING something will happen and predicting it are two separate things. You have a 1 track mind about Clark vs. evil Clark and you are obsessed enough to read SPOILERS. Color me unimpressed.

[Kal-EL1126]

Originally posted by citizenlen
Telling you, if that happen..Lana is really going psycho permanently. Can you say the baby from V coming out of her? lol


Whoa........V....Huh?....Haven't heard that one in years...What a great series!!!!!

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
youve been obsessing over CLARK fighting his KAL EL double since season 5 finale ended. Blabbing on and on ad nauseum about Clark needing to fight KAL EL ALL season long to comeplete his training. Since BIZZARRO can fly, his return is your fans wet dream. Since youve been droning on for about a year and a half about such a senario xray ,your so call prediction doesnt count. WISHING something will happen and predicting it are two separate things. You have a 1 track mind about Clark vs. evil Clark and you are obsessed enough to read SPOILERS. Color me unimpressed.

Sorry, but you're thinking of the wrong person.

[adromidon]

he was talking about xray

But I did not know it was bizzaro till the end I just notice Clark acted strange and I do not care if you think that is bull but he was not acting like he normaly would. Plus it is just a tv show so lighten up Tacosupes

[citizenlen]

Tacosupes, so what if people read spoilers . Get a grip. Stop the Board on Board Violence! ;)
btw Kal-el1126 I lurve V! I hope the release a special box set.

[NoSupeForYou]

I'm thinking that maybe I wasn't clear on what I said. I was referring to the disguise of the glasses that Superman wears when he is Clark and not to anything Bizzaro was wearing during the episode. My criticism is aimed more at the so-called reporters of the DP, including Lois and Chloe, who being reporters should be more observent and suspicious.

"Clark" comes back after being gone for two weeks, acts a little differently than normal, blows off the fact that his cousin is gone and those who know him best aren't even a little suspicious and don't even bother to ask what he's been up to?

[adromidon]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
I'm thinking that maybe I wasn't clear on what I said. I was referring to the disguise of the glasses that Superman wears when he is Clark and not to anything Bizzaro was wearing during the episode. My criticism is aimed more at the so-called reporters of the DP, including Lois and Chloe, who being reporters should be more observent and suspicious.

"Clark" comes back after being gone for two weeks, acts a little differently than normal, blows off the fact that his cousin is gone and those who know him best aren't even a little suspicious and don't even bother to ask what he's been up to? Ding Ding Ding
I agree with that I just could not think of how to word it

[Timester]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
"Clark" comes back after being gone for two weeks, acts a little differently than normal, blows off the fact that his cousin is gone and those who know him best aren't even a little suspicious and don't even bother to ask what he's been up to?

We are talking about the guy that dissapeared for 3 months, twice. This without counting the other many times that he wasn't himself.

Seriously, Lana never figured out the wrong things about Clark, why should she now all the suddenly?

[NoSupeForYou]

If I remember correctly, the first time he disappeared because he was under the influence of Red K and the second time he came back as Kal. So, if he disappears again I would certainly be a little more suspicious around him.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
youve been obsessing over CLARK fighting his KAL EL double since season 5 finale ended. Blabbing on and on ad nauseum about Clark needing to fight KAL EL ALL season long to comeplete his training. Since BIZZARRO can fly, his return is your fans wet dream. Since youve been droning on for about a year and a half about such a senario xray ,your so call prediction doesnt count. WISHING something will happen and predicting it are two separate things. You have a 1 track mind about Clark vs. evil Clark and you are obsessed enough to read SPOILERS. Color me unimpressed.

What I wanted to see was never a prediction. It was what I consider the most logical way for Clark to train without making the same mistake the movie made and making Superman be the product of Jor-El's will (which is the complete opposite of what he is in the comics). And I really could care less anymore. I have been writing my own fanfic episodes based on this happening and it's good enough for me.

I was glad Bizarro came back because I think many things can happen between him & Brainiac and Clark.

And if you think I read spoilers, you are dead wrong. The only posts you'll find of mine in that forum are of threads that were moved to the spoilers forum for whatever reason. So you can be as unimpressed as you want. I don't aim to impress anyone here. I come here to mainly speculate on various theories of what could happen and discuss what I liked & didn't like about episodes, characters, etc. Just because you don't think there's any way for anyone who doesn't read spoilers to suspect it was Bizarro after what we were presented with in this episode doesn't mean it's true. Keep on trash talking because I'm done explaining myself.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
I'm thinking that maybe I wasn't clear on what I said. I was referring to the disguise of the glasses that Superman wears when he is Clark and not to anything Bizzaro was wearing during the episode. My criticism is aimed more at the so-called reporters of the DP, including Lois and Chloe, who being reporters should be more observent and suspicious.

"Clark" comes back after being gone for two weeks, acts a little differently than normal, blows off the fact that his cousin is gone and those who know him best aren't even a little suspicious and don't even bother to ask what he's been up to?

:lol: Maybe they don't suspect Clark is Superman because Superman doesn't act like a BDA! :lol:

[Timester]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
If I remember correctly, the first time he disappeared because he was under the influence of Red K and the second time he came back as Kal. So, if he disappears again I would certainly be a little more suspicious around him.

Yet, no one suspected by then, why would suspect now, that everyone knew the reason (Kara) and that "Clark" (Bizarro) appeared only two weeks after?

And seriously, since when Lana cared about anyone else but her?

[Tacosupes]

LOL! Some people will go out of their way to support a lie. You make judiciuos use of the EDIT button to fake a prediction and I'm supposed to be fooled? ROTFLMAO. WHO the hell posts their predictions 2 minutes prior to the end of an episode anyway? If youre looking at the monitor youd MISS the episodes ending and have no idea whether you right or not. There sure are a lot of posers here pretending to be monday morning Sherlock Holmes. The ONLY thing that was suspicious was CLARK was gone for 2 weeks for a simple trip to the fortress. MY first reaction to that was JOR EL took Clark's powers AGAIN as punishment for his defiance and he had to stow away on a ship to get home. Or maybe he was circling for Kara and gave up after 14 days.

[xrayvision]

Man, if something as trivial as the foresight to know that it was Bizarro after he gave up on Kara that fast in the early part of the episode is impossible for you to accept, then I guess you wouldn't believe in important things like the invention of the lightbulb by Thomas Edison had you been around back in those days when such groundbreaking things were being invented.

People are different. You gotta understand that. That's what makes the world great. What one person is lacking in, another is good at. And vice versa. This applies to important real world things and in this case, even dumb things like TV shows. I want to go out on this "discussion" on a more positive note.

As for me, I caught onto how Clark gave up on Kara and this was a red flag based on how what happened to her was his fault and I knew how he wouldn't let his superpowered cousin be lost on the planet. This was the first time I thought it was Bizarro. Then when I saw him accept Lana going after Lex, I knew that Clark who has a black & white sense of right & wrong would never accept that.

[NoSupeForYou]

His answer about Kara lacked in details and it looked like he did not know what Lana was talking about, but was trying to BS his way through.

[Tacosupes]

Clark never looked for Lionel when he went missing. He never looked for Lex after Exodus. (DoNT GIve me that red k stuff he went to the funeral). He didnt bother to look for RAYA EITHER when he found out she was on EARTH. In fact AFTER FIERCE, Kara revealed theres a 3rd KRYPTONIAN on EARTH and the BDA has done Jack to find him or her.(OR IT, IT COULD BE KRYPTO! U HEARD IT HERE FIRST).
Fact is Clark Takes no RESPONSIBILITY and derilcts duty so long as he's sniffing after lana's tail. SORRY CHLOE SHIPPERS after suffering through her crappy jimmy scenes may Clark NEVER END UP WITH CHLOE. A-M IS A GREAT ACTRESS but her romance performances need serious work. LEX AND JIMMY WOULD BE MORE BELIEVABLE.

And BIZZARRO didnt say hed help Lana KILL LEX he said hed put him in JAIL. Thats VERY Clark -like, especially at the end of an ep in season 6 he said "ITS INEVITABLE, THE WAR HAS BEGUN".

[Timester]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Then when I saw him accept Lana going after Lex, I knew that Clark who has a black & white sense of right & wrong would never accept that.

That was the exact same thing that I thought when we has the Sprint preview clip with that scene. There was no way that Clark would act like that, because it would go against every single incarnation of Clark Kent, including Smallville's one.


Originally posted by Tacosupes
And BIZZARRO didnt say hed help Lana KILL LEX he said hed put him in JAIL. Thats VERY Clark -like, especially at the end of an ep in season 6 he said "ITS INEVITABLE, THE WAR HAS BEGUN".

Just no.

And if you have doubts of that, just read the spoilers forum threads from last monday or so.

[Tacosupes]

THATS FOR PEOPLE WITH NO LIFE. I DONT READ SPOILERS. I also dont wear superman pajamas or throw smallville theme parties or visit the sets in Canada. I also don't BORE THE PUBLIC with my lame fanfic about Clark fighting his black kryptonite spawned rival.


And do me a favor whatever your name is: DONT MENTION WHERE THE SEASON IS HEADED AFTER READING THE SPOILER FORUM. DONT CONFIRM OR DENY ANY SPECULATIONS MADE HERE. NOBODY ASKED YOU WHAT WAS IN THE SPOILERS FORUM. Read whatever there and KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. I SWEAR if there's one thing I HATE about this place is every month some knob has to mention a spoiler where they don't belong.

Clark said "the war has begun " at the end of PROGENY. PERIOD. You can't deny it or edit it out. (Youre not an editor for SMALLVILLE, are you? Well since you search their garbage for scripts I guess not.)

[Timester]

You call those that read spoilers no lifers, yet you get angry about a trivial talk on a online forum? Internet is serious business, it seems.

Seriously, you better read the rules before break more of them.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Then when I saw him accept Lana going after Lex, I knew that Clark who has a black & white sense of right & wrong would never accept that.

If Clark had sense of only black & white and right and wrong then he would never have gone after Lana after she was engaged to Lex.

That's not black or white. That's definitely a gray moral area.

And yeah, he did say last season that THE WAR HAS BEGUN. That sounds like fighting to words to me.

So it's very easy to be fooled into thinking this was Clark until the very last scene.

Then you could go back and rewatch the ep and see the small hints in the script and TW's subtle changes in his acting that points to the fact that this wasn't Clark but Bizarro.

[RedKRules]

I found it quite interesting how Bizarro played everyone... even Chloe that knows Clark better than anyone.... I loved it !!!

[Guidron]

I Totally didn't see it until that last scene. Now that I reflect on it, there were very subtle hints, but that was one of the best twists yet.

[NoSupeForYou]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
If Clark had sense of only black & white and right and wrong then he would never have gone after Lana after she was engaged to Lex.

That's not black or white. That's definitely a gray moral area.
.

Actually, that is black and white. It's clearly wrong and in the black to go after another's man's wife. There is no gray in that and, you're right, it is one of the most disappointing things about Smallville's Clark Kent.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
Clark never looked for Lionel when he went missing. He never looked for Lex after Exodus. (DoNT GIve me that red k stuff he went to the funeral). He didnt bother to look for RAYA EITHER when he found out she was on EARTH. In fact AFTER FIERCE, Kara revealed theres a 3rd KRYPTONIAN on EARTH and the BDA has done Jack to find him or her.(OR IT, IT COULD BE KRYPTO! U HEARD IT HERE FIRST).
Fact is Clark Takes no RESPONSIBILITY and derilcts duty so long as he's sniffing after lana's tail. SORRY CHLOE SHIPPERS after suffering through her crappy jimmy scenes may Clark NEVER END UP WITH CHLOE. A-M IS A GREAT ACTRESS but her romance performances need serious work. LEX AND JIMMY WOULD BE MORE BELIEVABLE.

And BIZZARRO didnt say hed help Lana KILL LEX he said hed put him in JAIL. Thats VERY Clark -like, especially at the end of an ep in season 6 he said "ITS INEVITABLE, THE WAR HAS BEGUN".

You have a point about not going after Lionel after he went missing. I also have to agree somewhat with Raya. The thing with her however is that we don't know exactly what he was doing between the end of Reunion when Chloe found the satellite image of Raya and the very next episode (Fallout) where in the first Clark scene, we see Raya meeting him in the barn. He could have looked for her somewhat offscreen. Or maybe he was instead looking for the criminals (Raya wasn't a criminal) that got loose because of him & he knew they posed a danger. Or perhaps he was still helping rebuild the destruction caused on Dark Thursday, which was also his fault.

As for Lex, you can't blame him entirely because he had no idea what the events were surrounding Lex. The crash happened while he was on the motorcycle going to Metropolis. When he found out, he was already on red-k and read it in a newspaper article. He might have thought that the crash was an accident and that Lex was dead like any other human would be. Being on red-k, he wouldn't go out of his way as much to look for someone. Yes, he did attend the funeral, but besides that, I wouldn't expect red-k Clark to go crazy looking for Lex.

I also agree that he hasn't done a damn thing to look for the missing Kryptonian that he learned of in Fierce. In his defense, I'm not sure he entirely knows if the Kryptonian is on Earth (I think this is supposedly a spoiler being leaked by spoiler fans). But what I do blame him for is not going to Jor-El for an explanation about that missing Kryptonian. That's just ignorance on his part.

The main thing that seperates this from other episodes was that Bizarro was vocal about giving up on Kara. Even though Clark also abandoned Lionel earlier this season, he wasn't vocal about it. To me that meant something because it reminded me of another show where someone did the same thing. That show is Knight Rider, which I like a lot more than Smallville. I'm not sure if you're a fan of it or not, but if you watch the show and have seen the episode Knight of the Juggernaut (the season 4 premiere) you will know what I'm talking about. In it, there was a bogus Devon Miles who was some guy who had special plastic surgery done & paid for by a terrorist named Mr. Nordstrom. The bogus Devon after Michael asks him about KITT (who was very badly damaged) tells him that he's dead and gives up on KITT. This scene was the first thing I thought of when what appeared to be Clark vocally expressed giving up on Kara. After that, I was certain it was Bizarro because I thought it was too similar to that KR episode. I have seen a few things from KR & other 80's shows I watched as a kid being used on Smallville, so this is what made me think this. After hearing this, I looked for any sign to support my beliefs and I kept spotting them. These things were the strange un-Clark-like voice, how he urged Lana to continue going after Lex, how he flew, how the episode was conveniently set at night, how he never got Chloe's voicemail distress message, etc. Another thing was how the episode did not start off showing Clark in the FOS continuing from Blue as every cliffhanger usually shows Clark's present state.

As for Bizarro not telling Lana to kill Lex, that may be true. But based on what happened in Wrath, I did not think Clark would egg her on to go after Lex & bring him to jail when he knew that the last time she went after Lex, she was about to kill him. The only times Clark has ever changed his stance on something like that was after he was given reason to (like him being proven wrong--like with him being too protective of Kara in Fierce and then learning to trust her). In this case, he wasn't proven wrong, so it made no sense to me that Clark would egg her on to do something he was so much against. I know he has been inconsistent in terms of his development (growth & becoming responsible), but regarding right & wrong and his morals, he has been fairly consistent.


Originally posted by Kid Collins
If Clark had sense of only black & white and right and wrong then he would never have gone after Lana after she was engaged to Lex.

That's not black or white. That's definitely a gray moral area.

I wouldn't call that immoral. He knew that she still loved him and it may cause problems in her future marriage with Lex. I do think that all the displays of affection after she was already married were immoral though. But that's the thing. When it's about being with Lana (i.e. when he doesn't have her with him as was the case in S6), Clark does do immoral things. That's why I don't think she's right for him. But this case wasn't about being with Lana. Clark already has Lana. This was a case of giving Lana advice on how to live her life. Previously he was against going after Lex the way she has and against the whole Isis thing. Lana even apologized to some extent for doing so and even thought herself that she may not be right for him and may be past the point of no return. If it were Clark, why would he urge her to do something that will indeed put her past the point of no return and fall over that edge Lionel talked about? This is something Clark would never do.

And yeah, he did say last season that THE WAR HAS BEGUN. That sounds like fighting to words to me.

He said that to Chloe, who he knows can go after Lex in a moral way and help bring him down legally. The same is not true with Lana. If Lana continues going after him, she will be past the point of no return, and that's something Clark doesn't want. He also doesn't want her going after Lex because she unlike him is vulnerable and knows what can happen to her based on the first half of Reckoning. I'm not even sure he wants Chloe going after Lex. I think he wanted to go against Lex with his JLA buddies. And plus, back then Lana was in danger and Lex was up to stuff he knew about. I'm not sure if Clark knows anything about Lex's plans. To Clark, 33.1 may have been scrapped along with the army at Reeves dam (I don't even think he found out about that). In some ways, it seems like Clark may have bought Lex's "second chance" scheme. Either that, or he's just too busy to pay attention to him with everything that happened with Kara, the blue crystal, Bizarro, Lana getting his powers, etc.

Either way, the "War has begun" thing seemed dead throughout season 7. I have seen no sign of that since the end of season 6.

So it's very easy to be fooled into thinking this was Clark until the very last scene.

Then you could go back and rewatch the ep and see the small hints in the script and TW's subtle changes in his acting that points to the fact that this wasn't Clark but Bizarro.

Well, for me it wasn't because I saw that Knight Rider episode (Knight of the Juggernaut) that had pretty much the same scenario (a bogus Devon giving up on KITT like Bizarro gave up on Kara). That KR episode was the first thing I thought of when I heard him giving up on Kara. That's when I said "that's not Clark, that's Bizarro". Once I concluded that, I puposely looked for hints and just kept finding them.


Originally posted by Tacosupes
I also don't BORE THE PUBLIC with my lame fanfic about Clark fighting his black kryptonite spawned rival.

Just for your info, a very nice person who posts on this site who liked that idea asked me very nicely if I could write some fanfics...so I did. And out of those who took the time to read them, quite a few have liked it. I'm pretty sure if the writers of this show would write Clark the way I have done in the ones I wrote so far that you would like Smallville's Clark Kent because the way I'm writing him is not anything like the responsibility-ducking Clark we have seen in this show. I even wrote it like an actual episode script with lines and stuff rather than paraphrasing it.

[adromidon]

Just a thumbs up toward Xrays fanfic.

Hey Tavosupes no offense but did some one make you upset or something? You seem to have this bitterness toward everyone and everything when I have seen some of your older posts from months ago and that bitterness was not there