View Full Version : Why can't Peter use his blood?
CallMeClark
12-06-2007, 04:25 AM
Why is it Peter cannot use his blood to save his brother Nathan? He is also invincible/immortal.
spicyblark
12-06-2007, 05:28 AM
True, but what is he supposed to do? He doesn't have a syringe and if he cut himself open to try to obtain some blood, he would just heal.
TKFlash
12-07-2007, 11:03 PM
I think he could save Nathan but it would be at the cost of their secrets. He could stop time, go grab and tie up the shooter, go find a couple of syringes and inject his blood and let it take effect. So yeah he could definitely use his blood.
Knowing how powerful Peter is, an injection probablt wont just heal Nathan but enhance his powers temporarily. He could go from Mach 5 to Mach 15 or something.
krpto
12-10-2007, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by TKFlash
I think he could save Nathan but it would be at the cost of their secrets. He could stop time, go grab and tie up the shooter, go find a couple of syringes and inject his blood and let it take effect. So yeah he could definitely use his blood.
Knowing how powerful Peter is, an injection probablt wont just heal Nathan but enhance his powers temporarily. He could go from Mach 5 to Mach 15 or something.
I don't think peter is to worried about keeping thier powers a secret he was afterall standing next to Nathan at the press confrence lisening to nathan talking about them and nathan was about to say he could fly(i am 90 percent sure he would have shown the world by floating on camera) Peter's blood if it does anything other then just copy others abilitys might heal nathan though Nathan might have to be near some other regen(claire) to heal. So nathan gets shot and peter injects him with some of peter's blood hoping that nathan will get peter's powers from the blood Nathan gets peter's original power but not any of the other powers that peter got for interacting with people. So peter freaks out teleporting nathan all around till he finds claire and she says how did this happen? Peter: Don't you watch tv he was doing a press confrence telling the world about us and got shot. I tryed to heal him with my blood since I can copy your power but it didn't work. Claire: Your blood just lets you copy other powers you have seen used he hasn't been around someone who could heal since he got your blood he needs mine. (Grabs knife so she can put her blood on nathan's gun wound she cuts herself but heals before she can give nathan some of her blood. Then peter's blood in nathan kicks in and copies claire power. Thats at least how I would write it. So just because you get peter's blood doesn't mean you get all the abilities he has picked up you still need the experience yourself to get the different powers.
CallMeClark
12-12-2007, 06:25 AM
Peter, can always do it later.
HRG was dead for a few hours before they brought him back.
I just think it is lame now because now no one wil stay dead.
Xanderman
12-12-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah there's no reason why Peter shouldn't be able to save Nathan. While it seemed before Peter had to activate his powers in some way, apparently he has progressed/gotten more powerful. He constantly produces regen blood, just like Claire/Adam, as revealed by the shard stuff last season. So now he's just as good as the originals. Better considering he can do everything they can and so much more. He's freaking Neo. lol
The Ninth Doctor
12-28-2007, 12:14 PM
Peter's blood should work. He just needs to find the stuff to transfer it. He can't freeze time, as we've already seen he really struggles with the chronospacialkinesis, because not only does he find controlling abilities difficult, but its one of the most difficult even for the original to master.
And Claire did see it. They originally shot all of the main characters watching the conferance, but at the last minute changed it to a season montage.
jazzylg
12-29-2007, 10:56 PM
Would Peter go back and use his blood to heal simone? You guys are right, from now on, all you need is a blood filled syringe from Adam, Clair,or Peter, and your're A,OK!
The Ninth Doctor
12-30-2007, 03:07 PM
The problem is, yes, based on the rules the writers have set up, that is indeed all you need.
However, they have said that they are going to solve this problem. How, we don't know.
jazzylg
12-31-2007, 10:45 PM
They'll have to do something about the ressurection effect the blood seems to have. I mean, Hiro could just pour a pint on his dear departed dad, and watch him regenerate like count dracula!
The Ninth Doctor
01-01-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm betting the body gradually becomes immune to it. Like, this time when they heal nathan, it will keep him alive, but barely, showing us that the blood is not the ultimate solution to death.
Xanderman
01-01-2008, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
He can't freeze time, as we've already seen he really struggles with the chronospacialkinesis, because not only does he find controlling abilities difficult, but its one of the most difficult even for the original to master. I've always had trouble with this, I mean didn't Peter absorb Sylar's intuitive aptitude? That ability should allow him to understand and master abilities quickly and extensively, with little effort. Does this mean Sylar never actually had that ability to begin with?
Originally posted by jazzylg
They'll have to do something about the ressurection effect the blood seems to have. I mean, Hiro could just pour a pint on his dear departed dad, and watch him regenerate like count dracula! :lol:
The Ninth Doctor
01-03-2008, 11:36 AM
I think we can assume nothing about the intuitive aptitude. So far, the Hatian can't block it (he succumbed to Eden the first time but saw how her power worked so the second time he was immune), the curare can't stop it (it wasn't tk that reversed the flow originally, on CBR's Behind the Eclipse the writer's said that it blocked the TK, but his intuitive aptitude allows extreme control over his body, and he just reversed his bloodstream or something crazy like that, and this control also allowed his feign death routine) and the Shanti virus does not disable it, like it disables other powers. Now, the writer's have flip-flopped on whether Peter has all of Sylar's aquired abilities or not, but they've never commented on his IA. I think, since nothing that normally works on other powers has worked on it, that Peter can't copy it as well.
I so wish Kaito came back. Just another senseless death.
Xanderman
01-03-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm not sure I understand why Sylar's ability would be uncopyable, unless he is able to somehow, with the ability, prevent the ability from being copied or something? This makes me question whether Sylar ever actually had an original ability/mutation. Perhaps his brain was just special for more simple reasons, similar to how geniuses are simply geniuses without being mutants or evolved humans. I remember Mello Penello saying that Sylar didn't have any powers before, but I argued against it because Mohinder's father identified Gabriel as special which is why he found him. Now I'm not so sure. I mean I think we can both agree that Peter seems pretty damned stupid.:lol: Lol no real IA demonstrations from him at all.
And flip-flopping writers is just what we need eh, as if the show wasn't confusing or unclear enough as it is. lol
Kaito was Sulu, right? Maybe if he asks nicely, God will beam him back down.:cool: :lol:
God: I can send you back Kaito, if that is what you wish.
Kaito: No. I don't want you playing God.
God: But...I *am* God.
Kaito: That's beside the point. Sigh, you sound just like my foolish son.
:lol:
The Ninth Doctor
01-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Ah, if only that could happen.
As for my theory with Sylar, he's the next step in evolution, after the present Evolved Humans like Claire, Peter, Hiro, etc, so since he is the next step after this evolution, he still has the traces of the ability, and thus Chandra was able to find him, but he has transcended this step, so the normal blockers and copyers don't work on his original.
Matro
01-03-2008, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
Ah, if only that could happen.
As for my theory with Sylar, he's the next step in evolution, after the present Evolved Humans like Claire, Peter, Hiro, etc, so since he is the next step after this evolution, he still has the traces of the ability, and thus Chandra was able to find him, but he has transcended this step, so the normal blockers and copyers don't work on his original.
Is that your theory or is it explained somewhere?
The Ninth Doctor
01-03-2008, 06:16 PM
His being the next step is my theory. His IA being unblockable is on screen fact, and his IA being uncopiable seems very likely given it being unblockable and given Peter must not have it, with all the dumb stuff he's done this season. (See: accidently erase from exidence the girl he's trying to save by doing the thing he thinks will save her. Oh, and ignoring the other million people to die and only remembering her.)
Socrate
01-05-2008, 06:24 AM
Thinking of which it would be one of the wirder things to see it work on him at least in 100%. I mean if he would lose his IA he would probably suddenly feel Peterded :P . Sylar's power might have more complex or just delicate nature , which doesnt let it be easly classified or be cataloged as super power at all , Chandra was personaly disappointed with Sylar - didn't notice his power , in first place so I think it might be unblockable/uncopiable beacause of its ordinarity level. I just don't think he literaly "evolved" , well he did by opening quiet few heads :P but You know what I mean.
The Ninth Doctor
01-05-2008, 12:40 PM
Socrate, your theory does indeed match the facts, and is much simpler than mine, so using Occam's Razor I'm going to subscribe to your theory that the IA ability is just incredibly complex and subtle.
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