View Full Version : Don't piss Hiro off!
RedPhoenix23
12-04-2007, 05:35 PM
Damn! That was cruel what he did to Adam! It would have been kinder just to lop off his head. I know Adam was evil, but wow, I didn't think Hiro had that kind of darkness in him. Think about it, Adam is immortal, therefore he's going to be buried ALIVE for a very very very long time.
STFanatic
12-04-2007, 09:26 PM
From an interview with Kring, he said he teleported Adam into a grave in the same cemetery as his father.
That was indeed (IMO) cruel.
And from Hiro's face, he was fighting an internal battle with himself over it. Hiro didn't want to be a killer, so I suppose that was his solution to render Adam harmless as well as to punish him for killing his father.
hansioux
12-05-2007, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by STFanatic
From an interview with Kring, he said he teleported Adam into a grave in the same cemetery as his father.
That was indeed (IMO) cruel.
And from Hiro's face, he was fighting an internal battle with himself over it. Hiro didn't want to be a killer, so I suppose that was his solution to render Adam harmless as well as to punish him for killing his father.
it's not like Adam is going to die in there. Maybe he can get out someday.
Barogrei
12-05-2007, 01:37 AM
Yes, but to be subjected to confinement within such a small area for an incredibly long amount of time is a horrible punishment, by almost any standard. I guess that Adam's attempted mass murder of billions would justify just about any sort of punishment, if you are prescribed to a sort of retributive view. But I think that subjecting anyone to such a fate is wrong if there was any other way to neutralize the harm that the entity could do in a less cruel fashion.
Xanderman
12-05-2007, 01:49 AM
I don't see how Adam can survive for too long. His ability gives him the ability to regenerate, not survive conditions that don't support life. Without oxygen, he will die. No new blood will be produced in him either, so after enough time passes, it will be too late for him to be revived.
Technically what Hiro did to him should kill him eventually. He will just last longer than a normal person would.
If no one rescues Adam, or he doesn't get out on his own soon, he's finished. I have a feeling Hiro's conscience will push him to rescue Adam.
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Think about it, Adam is immortal, therefore he's going to be buried ALIVE for a very very very long time.He's not immortal, he regenerates. In conditions that don't support life, like an airless environment, he's done for.
Caper 469
12-05-2007, 01:06 PM
If somebody wanted to find Adam, they could use Molly to track him down.
pycer
12-05-2007, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Barogrei
Yes, but to be subjected to confinement within such a small area for an incredibly long amount of time is a horrible punishment, by almost any standard. I guess that Adam's attempted mass murder of billions would justify just about any sort of punishment, if you are prescribed to a sort of retributive view. But I think that subjecting anyone to such a fate is wrong if there was any other way to neutralize the harm that the entity could do in a less cruel fashion.
:rolleyes:
Anyway...that rocked, Hiro is da man!
nickyjean_1
12-05-2007, 02:38 PM
I love hiro .. but that is beyond cruel.. I suppose taking him to prehystoric time would have been risky bc then he could have been the real adam.. But a coffin.. If somethings too evil to survive just kill them don't tourture them..
And Caper thanks for the hope of molly.. talk about sympathy for the devil..
pycer
12-05-2007, 02:43 PM
Hiro was not one of the few that was aware that Adam could be killed by removing his head. (Which, btw, has yet to be 'proven' on screen). So, fully assuming the man to be immortal and indestructable (he has lived for more than 400 years, AND Hiro witnessed him surviving being in a massive explosion and surviving) he had little choice, so Hiro did what was needed. Going off of the knowledge Hiro had at the time, he took the only step he could that would remove Adam as a threat. I cant beleive you people actually feel bad for him.
ash91
12-07-2007, 12:18 PM
i thought it was an awesome move, one that i didn't see coming. i mean i would have never thought of that- and hiro being hiro wouldn't be able to kill someone who was defenceless and also as has been pointed out he thinks Adam can't be killed.
it is a horrible punishment but once you think in the story he's trying to kill EVERYONE on earth then he's gotta get a worse punishment than murderers get
TKFlash
12-07-2007, 10:38 PM
That was cool, he didn't kill him but he place him somewhere where he cannot be a threat.
hansioux
12-09-2007, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Xanderman
He's not immortal, he regenerates. In conditions that don't support life, like an airless environment, he's done for.
If that's the case why bother mentioning "put a bullet right through the head, it's the only way"?
How about "put him in my brother's apartment, it's the only way".
Xanderman
12-10-2007, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by hansioux
How about "put him in my brother's apartment, it's the only way". What do you mean? Brother's apartment? lol please clarify
As for the bullet in the head thing, that's flawed based on what we've seen already and I thought it was a dumb thing for Angela to say with such conviction/confidence. We know that people with regen blood inside them expel bullets from their bodies as the blood heals them. A bullet in the head doesn't matter to regen blood, as evidenced by the resurrection of HRG. In fact, almost any injury to the brain can be healed I'd say, as long as the crucial areas (knowledge/memories etc) aren't completely wiped out (crucial in that they are irreplaceable). Both Peter and Claire were impaled with objects much larger than a bullet, both healed once the objects were pulled out. In the meantime regen-blood kept them preserved or in some other unique state, as revealed by their grey eyes. A bullet is a small object, it probably wouldn't need to be removed by another person, it would get pushed out on its own during the healing process, in much the same way we've seen before.
red_sun1938
12-11-2007, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Caper 469
If somebody wanted to find Adam, they could use Molly to track him down.
Yeah, there is always that.
rocana
12-12-2007, 06:41 PM
This makes me wonder... Even with the coffin and a foot of concrete between him and the surface, couldn't Adam slowly scratch his way out? I mean think of it, his finger nails constantly regenerate, and as we all know even water can slowly erode just about anything... I mean it would take looooong time, but he can still do it.
Actually to go even more extreme, he could rip off parts of his body, like his arm or leg, which would just regenerate, and use the old limbs to create bone tools that could do this too.... sure it sounds crazy, but if I was immortal trapped in a grave like that... I might give it a try! ha
pycer
12-12-2007, 07:04 PM
You go try and rip your own arm off and let me know how far you get.
rocana
12-12-2007, 07:14 PM
haha, I was thinkin something smaller like fingers and such. I doubt he could do his whole arm since that's too hard to do without at least a knife and the regeneration would make it pretty much impossible. But anyway, it was just something I was thinking of while I was posting the scratching his way out part. Thats still possible. Might take centuries but still possible.
STFanatic
12-12-2007, 09:03 PM
Also, there is not too much room in those coffins to wriggle around ;)
Xanderman
12-12-2007, 11:17 PM
Adam should pray to Peter. Who knows, with all the things Peter can do, he might actually hear him. :lol:
Adam: God? Is that you?
Peter: Close. It's Peter Petrelli.
:lol:
STFanatic
12-12-2007, 11:19 PM
Adam is in the same graveyard as Hiro's father in Japan, that would be some intense super hearing ;)
Then again, with Molly's power.... Peter knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake.... :lol:
Xanderman
12-12-2007, 11:27 PM
:lol:
Adam: Santa? Is that you?
Peter: Close. Peter Petrelli. lol
Lol yeah, but it wouldn't have to be super hearing, maybe it could be a mind thing. Peter might not be able to hear his physical voice because of distance, but his thoughts are another thing maybe? Who knows. And I totally forgot about that, Peter has Molly's power eh? Then he should definitely be able to find Adam if he wanted to. Who knows, maybe the Company will use Molly to find and rescue Adam. That's probably how it will play out.
STFanatic
12-12-2007, 11:31 PM
They were all at the plaza when Nikki jumped in to swat Sylar with the parking meter.
Which is why I think Peter had a hard time holding back the radiation power. Too many new abilities being absorbed at the same time.
Xanderman
12-12-2007, 11:39 PM
Yeah that's probably what triggered the loss of control.
pycer
12-13-2007, 09:13 AM
Um, exactly what I been saying for months...
no one pays attention though unless it comes from a super mod...:p
bobsuncorp
12-15-2007, 02:27 PM
I actually thought for a minute that Hiro had transported Adam back to like the ice age or something. Think about it, leaving him abandoned a million years or something before man even walked the Earth, Then we would really see how long he would live. On the other hand, if he did survive that long then he would be just a little bit more annoyed with Hiro when he reached current time. Not to mention the havoc he could wreak on the timeline by living through an era he shouldn't.
STFanatic
12-15-2007, 06:58 PM
Had he lived that long, Adam/Kensi would have been waiting for Hiro to appear in Japan before they met. (another paradox to deal with)
rocana
12-16-2007, 01:44 PM
Not sure if Peter blew up because he absorbed too many powers... I always thought it was because he absorbed the radiation power twice. Once from Ted and then at the end from Sylar. That's why he said "I absorbed his power! I can't control it!" or something like that.... Side note... how did Peter know he has DLs power if he never met him? and why has he not used any other powers he should have by now? Sylar's other powers besides the telekinesis and nuke power, Micah's or Molly's? Come to think of it, he's only used Hiro's time travel, but not his teleportation (except when they were both used at the same time, Canada 2007->New York 2008)... But yea, Peter might be able to tell where Adam is, but I think at this point he'd be like good riddance.
Xanderman
12-17-2007, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by rocana
Not sure if Peter blew up because he absorbed too many powers... I always thought it was because he absorbed the radiation power twice. Once from Ted and then at the end from Sylar. That's why he said "I absorbed his power! I can't control it!" or something like that.... Side note... how did Peter know he has DLs power if he never met him? and why has he not used any other powers he should have by now? Sylar's other powers besides the telekinesis and nuke power, Micah's or Molly's? Come to think of it, he's only used Hiro's time travel, but not his teleportation (except when they were both used at the same time, Canada 2007->New York 2008)... But yea, Peter might be able to tell where Adam is, but I think at this point he'd be like good riddance. I can't see how Peter could absorb powers more than once, that doesn't really make sense. Once he has the power, he has it, he doesn't absorb it again. Peter had never been around that many power-holders at once as he was then which stands out as a likely reason for his breakdown.
As for Peter's use of powers and the nature of how he accesses powers, they've definitely been inconsistent and unclear. I'd chalk it up to bad writing, or more simply "writing of convenience".
HWichita
12-18-2007, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by pycer
Hiro was not one of the few that was aware that Adam could be killed by removing his head. (Which, btw, has yet to be 'proven' on screen). So, fully assuming the man to be immortal and indestructable (he has lived for more than 400 years, AND Hiro witnessed him surviving being in a massive explosion and surviving) he had little choice, so Hiro did what was needed. Going off of the knowledge Hiro had at the time, he took the only step he could that would remove Adam as a threat. I cant beleive you people actually feel bad for him.
Well said Hiro did what had to be done.
And Hiro "Might" have taken Peter. If he had just stabbed or cut him instead of trying to subdue him
Adam will be back as long as the actor that plays him does not get steady work somewhere else.
Daniel Zhong
02-27-2008, 03:13 AM
it's cruel on Adam. but it's also not cruel. because Hiro doesn't kill him at that moment. so he is still alive. and isn't able to run out of there. for that, all of them would feel safe.
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