Loved it? hated it? What did you think of Powerless?

[superhippie2000]

Well what did you think?

[STFanatic]

IMO it wasn't as awesome as the Season 1 finale, but it rocked!

We really didn't see Nikki die, so she may be back.

I would give it a "10" just for the way Hiro dealt with Adam.

I wouldn't miss the Commentary for anything tomorrow!

[PaleBlueDot]

Gall dangit! Kill the Cheerleader....Save The Show!!!

No one died that I wanted to die. But still a good episode 8/10

[Sweetie]

Very good finale.It was sad to see Nathan died..But,I saw it coming from the minute he says he wanted to tell the thruth about himself.Angela was behind it.She is a horrible woman.Somebody will have to stop her,she is very dangerous.I think she's the leader of the compagny.Nikki's death was predictable right at the moment,she decided to help her son rescue Monica.

I like the way Hiro deal with Adam.I laughed when I saw that creep barried 6 feet under.I was cheering in my seat when Peter caught the deadly virus.Good catch,Peter!!!

[Mello Penelo]

Pretty good. I just wish Claire and West had died. And Maya stay dead. And yay! Niki is dead! And HRG has finally accepted he's a bad person!

I'll miss you Nathan. :( *cries*

[Ginx]

8/10 - I hated how dumb they made Peter's character this season. Since when would he follow anyone blindly? I know that Adam saved his brother - but how does that one instance make a difference in the long run. I would think Peter would trust Hiro over Adam any day of the week.

I hated that Maya came back, hated that Nathan seemingly died. Loved that HRG came back, hated that it was because of dumb Claire (another character they ruined this season) and now he's stuck at the company once again. Loved that Sylar got his powers back, loved that Niki is gone, and hated the sterotyped gang violence.

Overall - I liked that Peter finally came through and overpowered Parkman and Hiro - even though they share the same powers. He's not timid in using them anymore which is good. Although he was a BDH for the last few episodes I'll forgive him because he's the man.

[warriorrenegade]

Yeah it rocked, just not as hard as Vol. 1. I'd give it an 8. The deaths for me just didn't have the impact they might have had if I weren't expecting them. Other than that the episode rocked.

[Raissa]

8/10 -- Too much time was spent on the Niki/Monica/Micah storyline. And no, I don't like how they handled Peter this season.

[Lexgirl33]

I gave it a 10, I love every minute of it.


Originally posted by Ginx
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Overall - I liked that Peter finally came through and overpowered Parkman and Hiro - even though they share the same powers. He's not timid in using them anymore which is good. Although he was a BDH for the last few episodes I'll forgive him because he's the man.

And cause hes so hot :lol: No for real, I am glad he finally uses his powers to their extent

[InLove_with_Chloe]

One word: excellent.

[Alexander III]

It SUX!!! IT SUX!!!
Juz kidding, but I really want Maya to die though...this sux!

[CallMeClark]

Pretty good.

My problem with the show is "being dead" has no impact anymore. They can bring any character back now, with Claire's blood. *eye roll* I loved the episode but I hate that death has no meaning any more... I guess if Sylar goes on a killing spree again, though, her blood can't heal a cut open head...

[Farview]

I gave it an 8. I felt it could have been better. I was thinking that Nathan would have been one of the characters killed and I think he is gone for good. I rather suspect that Niki will be back. I just wish that West had been knocked off. Man, he is an annoying character! I liked that Elle saved Mohinder. She saw for the first time that she could get a good feeling from being a hero.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

My thoughts:

Peter finally using his powers, too bad it was for the wrong cause and over his "love" of some woman ( Clark anyone?).
Hiro, poor Hiro, the life seems to have been sucked out of him.
The death of his father, his accepteance of fate, burying Adma alive, he looks more and more like the Hiro of the future.
Claire...nice eye candy but underused this season, hope for better next year.
West, Boobs on a bull, enough said.
Noah....was it Noah that visited his family? was it a "shapeshifter" ? was is he planning? was has he done ?!?!!?
Nathan, under used and now dead, perhaps? yes? no? maybe so?
This is heroes, we never know.
Nikki, if she is dead I am pissed, I wanted to see her half naked one more time !!!
Sylar, I LOVED when he shot Maya !
Best scene this whole season !!
Too bad she is back :(
We shall see what they have planned for Sylar, me thinks he will have some fun next season.
Ma Petrelli, never underestimate her, she is more than she seems....
Bob, someone harlot slap that fool !
Mohinder, dude, you suck !
Did I miss anyone ??

[STFanatic]

I think they should have given Peter some of Claire's blood at the first of the episode so he could have grown a brain.
Or at least found a way to thin his skull a little so someone can get some sense through it sooner
:p

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
My thoughts:

Peter finally using his powers, too bad it was for the wrong cause and over his "love" of some woman ( Clark anyone?).
Hiro, poor Hiro, the life seems to have been sucked out of him.
The death of his father, his accepteance of fate, burying Adma alive, he looks more and more like the Hiro of the future.
Claire...nice eye candy but underused this season, hope for better next year.
West, Boobs on a bull, enough said.
Noah....was it Noah that visited his family? was it a "shapeshifter" ? was is he planning? was has he done ?!?!!?
Nathan, under used and now dead, Elle who saved Mohuiperhaps? yes? no? maybe so?
This is heroes, we never know.
Nikki, if she is dead I am pissed, I wanted to see her half naked one more time !!!
Sylar, I LOVED when he shot Maya !
Best scene this whole season !!
Too bad she is back :(
We shall see what they have planned for Sylar, me thinks he will have some fun next season.
Ma Petrelli, never underestimate her, she is more than she seems....
Bob, someone harlot slap that fool !
Mohinder, dude, you suck !
Did I miss anyone ??

Mr.Muggles:lol: It's so funny when he barks at Adam everytime he sees him.I guess he doesn't like the flying boy!!!The exact feelings of most fans;)

[Ginx]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
I gave it a 10, I love every minute of it.

Peter: And cause hes so hot :lol: No for real, I am glad he finally uses his powers to their extent

:lol: Didn't I mention that? I guess I figured it was just assumed lol ;)


Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
My thoughts:

Noah....was it Noah that visited his family? was it a "shapeshifter" ? was is he planning? was has he done ?!?!!?
Sylar, I LOVED when he shot Maya !
Ma Petrelli, never underestimate her, she is more than she seems....
Mohinder, dude, you suck !
Did I miss anyone ??

Did you mention Elle? Or Micah?

Noah - pretty sure it was him. They let him out so that he could stop Claire from going public. The deal is - he has to work for the Company again in exchange for his family to be protected.

Sylar - OMG - love him too. He's BACK!! I'm so happy he is back to himself again. The whole intro into Vol. 3 - soooo goood. Now that Peter has better control over his powers and Sylar is super POd - I think we'll finally get to see that battle when one's gonna fall.

I wanted Mohinder to die - he just made me sick this whole Vol. - he's so whiney. LOL - It used to be Parkman that was a whiner but now we've got Mohinder - Maya's not so much whining anymore and Niki is dead - it's Claire and Mohinder who whine now.

Ma Petrelli - I agree. I mean....wow.... she would sacrifice her son for the greater good - scary. I still don't think that Nathan is dead.

I don't think that Claire's mom is going to forgive her for making her father have to work for the company again. I loved that HRG is BACK - but it was a little odd his homecoming - should have been maybe more emotional on his family's side?

[Jaded Wolf]

Anyone who did not give this episode at least a nine is completely devoid of taste. This episode blew me away and I had to give it a 10/10! I just watched in it online and it was awesome.

Kristin Bell is cute in her role as Elle. Noah's hard edged attitude in the cell was well put with his character. I liked all the confrontations between the heroes and what Hiro did to Adam was nothing short of jaw dropping.

I can't believe Nathan is dead now and his own mom was behind it all. Cold blooded. The end just left me longing for more when Sylar gets his powers back. Please let this show come back on soon!!!

[jesslang]

well i dont know i tought it was ok ...but i think ( i just came in waching it this season )..but isent Maya the viris thngy ? idk any who i thought it was ok .. .ummm i cant wiat till it comes back ...sence the strik is going on every one is stoping shows :( ..but i understand that.. ..anyways moving on ...i like the show ..Adams underground ...and Hero is like he cant hurt anybody anymore...but he cant die so i guess he just kinda stuck down there.

[shadow4486]

It was a great episode for being a psudo-season finale. It answered some questions but raised others, as is par for the course with this show.

I loved Peter using his powers to beat Matt and Hiro because Peter is so cool but can't believe he could be so manipulated by Adam so easily...and for love. If he loved Caitlin so much then he should go back and save her. It wasn't like she would suddenly appear back in Ireland after the virus was destroyed. I suppose she would be in the future so in a year she could reunite with Peter but that would be Season 3 or so.

I'm sad that Jessica and Nathan had to die...hopefully they are in a better place and not waiting to be resurrected.

[loistickyfingerz]

SYLAR! That's all I can say on that.

Mr. Muggles!!

West flew away like the wuss he is. I could see Nathan's fate from a mile away. Still, I found myself way more interested in Sylar's potential victims than I'd ever been before.

Micha is on his way to evil, or heroism, and that should be really interesting to watch, especially with his copycat cousin in tow.

[HWichita]

I give it an 8 as which is high for me.
They don't have to kill off anyone but it should have been Maya if they had to. Her storyline was done.
The good stuff:
The fight between Hiro and Peter and Peter and Matt was a big improvement over previous battles.
El is growing as a charactor.
HRG is back where he belongs. It will be interesting to see how he handles the conflicts he will have next season.
It was "Generations" we still did not find out enough about the 12.

[coasterprincess]

Some parts I liked....some parts I didn't

The Good
~The Nathan/Peter reunion. I would have liked Peter to come to his senses sooner...but having him be stubborn until Nathan talked to him was a nice callback to last season's finale (plus I love the two of them...wish they didn't have to be separated the whole time)
~Sylar...the look when he shot Maya...priceless. Plus it'll be interesting since now we know the Company injected him what he's going to do about it next volume.

The Bad
~A little more info/closure with the elder 12...if they were going to name it generations...they could have played that (and even the next generation to an extent) up more)
~Adam buried alive? $20 says that doesn't last 4 episodes.

Overall I'm hopeful for the next volume with the way things ended/reset up here. So I'm going to go with a 7/10

[jimmyolsenblues]

I thought the episode was rushed , choppy, I did like what hiro did. I did not see enough finale battle stuff. I don't know, I was disappointed.

[The_Frag_Man]

I loved it. :) 10/10

[Xanderman]

Like jimmyolsenblues, I was also disappointed. It most definitely felt rushed, and that's probably because it was (they had to cut short the season). Evidence of a writer's-strike-effected season was felt more strongly in this ep than in any other imo, with some of the weakest writing in the series, likely linked to a rushing/skipping of events necessity. (They cut corners to reach an end to the season they wanted, or a more acceptable end.)

Come on, Nathan getting shot? The cliffhanger last season involved a possible death for Nathan, and here we go again? And who didn't see him getting shot a mile away? Granted they may have set it up that way (for the viewer to predict), but still there was nothing original about the concept at all. The very ending wasn't exactly spectacular either, Sylar gets his powers back, that's it? Nothing clever or original about that at all, not a strong last scene in any way.

Consistency wise, Angela said to stop/kill Adam to just shoot him in the head? We've seen on multiple occasions that bullets get expelled out of the bodies of people with regenerative blood in their system, and then the body heals and the person revives, so that can't be enough. Is Angela stupid or was that just bad writing? I mean she seemed pretty sure of herself. If she had said to blow up his head completely or to simply behead him, that would have been more acceptable, but a single gunshot to the head as a kill method is not consistent with what we've already seen in this series.

Peter being on Adam's side over Hiro's was absurd. Hiro is not someone new in Peter's life, he has proven himself to be one of the good guys in the past, someone trustworthy and honest. Yet Peter just kept knocking him out and flinging him aside. There was not enough development to strengthen this "complete trust" bond Peter apparently has with Adam (again, all a result of a shortened season). For Peter to trust him completely is just bad writing and weakens Peter as a character -- Peter was just dumb, Smallville-Clark dumb.

The way Hiro dealt with Adam was off as well. Why would Hiro want to torture Adam in this way? Why not just kill him outright? Adam hadn't done anything really bad enough to warrant this reaction from Hiro (he killed his dad, sure, but Hiro let it happen! He was respecting his dad's wishes to not interfere, yeah, but he didn't have to -- his father and he both accepted it, so then how can he use that as a reason to hate Adam so much?) Hiro told Peter that Adam killed his dad -- but he conveniently left out the part about him letting it happen.:lol: Beyond that, being "buried alive" is a total soap opera ending, lol not creative or original at all.

Sylar turning on Maya felt rushed as well, afterall they had only begun to develop a relationship/romance between the two, and then it all just fell apart in one episode. Way too jumpy storytelling-wise.

And why did Elle "announce" her presence to Sylar like that? She was pretty far from him at the time, not exactly at an advantage. Shouldn't she have been more ready to blast him before giving herself away? It seemed really repetitive too, as Maya had done the same earlier. She verbally attacked Sylar first, then Sylar just shot her. No imagination whatsover writing wise.

The ep was enjoyable but these things bugged me. 7.5/10 for me, rounded to an 8.

[Matro]

Originally posted by Xanderman
Come on, Nathan getting shot? The cliffhanger last season involved a possible death for Nathan, and here we go again? And who didn't see him getting shot a mile away? Granted they may have set it up that way (for the viewer to predict), but still there was nothing original about the concept at all..

That actually surprised me when he was shot and if it turns out that Noah was the killer there will be interesting conflict around that story. This also gives Peter a chance to kick ass and take names.


Originally posted by Xanderman
Consistency wise, Angela said to stop/kill Adam to just shoot him in the head? We've seen on multiple occasions that bullets get expelled out of the bodies of people with regenerative blood in their system, and then the body heals and the person revives, so that can't be enough. Is Angela stupid or was that just bad writing? I mean she seemed pretty sure of herself. If she had said to blow up his head completely or to simply behead him, that would have been more acceptable, but a single gunshot to the head as a kill method is not consistent with what we've already seen in this series.

She was right though. She didn't say permanently and a bullet in the head would kill him. Though I think if it were removed he would regenerate.


Originally posted by Xanderman
Peter being on Adam's side over Hiro's was absurd. Hiro is not someone new in Peter's life, he has proven himself to be one of the good guys in the past, someone trustworthy and honest. Yet Peter just kept knocking him out and flinging him aside. There was not enough development to strengthen this "complete trust" bond Peter apparently has with Adam (again, all a result of a shortened season). For Peter to trust him completely is just bad writing and weakens Peter as a character -- Peter was just dumb, Smallville-Clark dumb.

Peter and Adam spent a lot of time together in the prison. Probably more time than Peter has ever spent with Hiro. Adam also gave Nathan his blood, just to gain Peter's trust, but Peter didn't know that. I agree that Peter is an idiot at times but he is an empath.


Originally posted by Xanderman
The way Hiro dealt with Adam was off as well. Why would Hiro want to torture Adam in this way? Why not just kill him outright? Adam hadn't done anything really bad enough to warrant this reaction from Hiro (he killed his dad, sure, but Hiro let it happen! He was respecting his dad's wishes to not interfere, yeah, but he didn't have to -- his father and he both accepted it, so then how can he use that as a reason to hate Adam so much?) Hiro told Peter that Adam killed his dad -- but he conveniently left out the part about him letting it happen.:lol: Beyond that, being "buried alive" is a total soap opera ending, lol not creative or original at all.

Well, other than killing his father and attempting to release a virus that kills 93% of the world's population he was an upstanding citizen. :p Being buried alive with Adam's power creates the possibility of him living in eternal hell.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by Matro
She was right though. She didn't say permanently and a bullet in the head would kill him. Though I think if it were removed he would regenerate.It would drop him, but blood still in his system could possibly push the bullet out during the healing process in much the same way it has with other people. A bullet is a very small object, unlike the stick or shard that were in Claire's and Peter's heads that needed someone else to physically pull them out before they could heal.

Peter and Adam spent a lot of time together in the prison. Probably more time than Peter has ever spent with Hiro. Adam also gave Nathan his blood, just to gain Peter's trust, but Peter didn't know that. I agree that Peter is an idiot at times but he [I]is an empath.
True, but again this wasn't a stranger who was trying to stop his new best friend Adam, it was Hiro. Mr. "Save the cheerleader, save the world" himself. A completely flawed reaction from Peter when you look at it this way -- just bad writing.

Well, other than killing his father and attempting to release a virus that kills 93% of the world's population he was an upstanding citizen. :p Being buried alive with Adam's power creates the possibility of him living in eternal hell.
I understand the implications of burying/trapping Adam underground, I was just questioning why Hiro, who is supposed to be moral/good, would sentence Adam to this very cruel fate (he'll probably get out of it some way of course anyway but still). And Hiro's primary reason for hating Adam seemed to be for killing his father, he repeated that several times, including to Peter as a reason to distrust Adam. Again, senseless considering Hiro had a chance to prevent the murder but chose not to. In a way, by letting it happen (he was there watching), he was an accessory to it. (Imo, Hiro doesn't have a right to hate Adam for killing his father when he himself chose to stand by and let it happen. I mean who cares if he was honoring his father's wishes, again, his choice to do so, so he shares in the responsibility whether he likes it or not.)

[MidgardDragon]

It was pertty good, 8/10 material, until the end, at which point it was 9/10 material. I've not been spoiled since near the beginning of the season so Nathan getting shot came as a huge surprise to me.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I've not been spoiled since near the beginning of the season so Nathan getting shot came as a huge surprise to me. They actually set it up to be predictable I think. Someone secretly spying was shown, and there's this big press conference where Nathan's going to make a big/important announcement etc -- the classic signs were all there. I don't mind that I saw it coming, that's probably what they intended. What I didn't like was the repetitiveness, as again, Nathan possibly dying was a cliffhanger for the first volume, doing it again is completely devoid of imagination. As was the Sylar bit at the very end -- we expected Sylar to get his powers back at some point, not really a shock or "wow" moment, not exactly what a final scene in a season/volume/whatever should be. Oh well, blame the writer's strike.

I just thought of another thing, which I posted on another thread:

Peter is heavily super powered, and he was right next to him. Why couldn't he prevent Nathan from getting shot? Super hearing, telekinesis, the ability to manipulate time, you name it, Peter can do it. Just plain dumb, bad writing.

[Martin le Magicien]

This season finale kind of left me cold.

First, I'd like to say than the two most compassionnate heroes of last year are now stupid jerks. I don't think there is anything cool about the way Hiro handled Adam. Burying someone alive, especially someone that is immortal, is just cruel and heartless. Chopping his head would have been more merciful.

Peter was just a dumb arrogant bastard. I was sure for a second that he was gonna kill Hiro, the way he was holding and moving him against the wall. That Peter didn't just take the time to talk with Hiro or Matt about Adam was just stupid. And we knew from "4 months ago" that Peter can phase through walls with someone, they could have just done that, instead of giving Peter a nosebleed.

I was also a bit disapointed that Hiro, Nathan and Matt didn't face Peter togheter, it could have been a cool fight. But just like the fight against Sylar last year, they just don't feel the need to unite the heroes for now, and that's just too bad.

I didn't like either that Peter could overpower Matt mentaly. Did he have any kind of training against mind control ? If Peter can also insta-absorb another hero new abilities that they had to work to develop, he is even more powerful than before, and that sucks.

I thought for sure that Nathan was about to say that they should stick togheter from now on, and I was thinking "At last, they all gonna work togheter". But going public was a good idea too, and it could have opened a lot of doors for next season. But they prefered to keep a statu quo, and it's too bad. I hope they won't do that too much, just because they want to stretch the show as long as possible.

Nathan about to die again. So what ? He can be healed by Claires blood or Peters. Or just survive his wounds. I really want him to survive, because I love Nathan, but if he doesn't die, the show is going to lose some credibility, because dying isn't going to be a problem anymore on this show, and any scene where a hero loved by the audience is about to die will lose any strenght it could had have. I also have a problem about Matt "convincing" people to listen to Nathan on his demand. It seems that our heroes have a real "the end justify the means" attitude this year, even the best of them.

Nathan and Peter togheter again, great. They always have great scenes togheter and a great chemistry. The best part of the show was the press conference and Nathan getting shot (great acting from Milo on that one, he really looked surprise, and thus I can believe that the reason he couldn't hear the shooter was because he was deep in his thoughts). It was kind of contrived though when Nathan was trying to convince Peter that he isn't dumb, but rather just a bit naive. I still think he's dumb anyway.

Sylar getting is powers back : back to square one. I hope next year he will do something else than just kill and eat brains.

Elle is still an annoying little brat, but I think that I don't buy it because I keep seeing Veronica Mars in front of me.

Nikki is dead, and the funny thing was that Monica did nothing to help the woman who was rescuing her. What a hero. Muxh like D.L., Nikki was offered a heros death, so the title of the show is justify, and even though she barely ever did anything heroic before. Oh well.

HRG is back at the Company. Square one. Claire is whining. Regression.

All and all a decent episode, but nothing I'll remember when I die. 7/10

[Xanderman]

Lol, great review Martin.


Originally posted by Martin le Magicien
I didn't like either that Peter could overpower Matt mentaly. Did he have any kind of training against mind control ? If Peter can also insta-absorb another hero new abilities that they had to work to develop, he is even more powerful than before, and that sucks.Keep in mind though that Peter should have Sylar's intuitive aptitude (if that's an actual ability that Sylar had to begin with, that is), and so technically he should be able to master abilities very quickly, and be even better/more powerful than the originals.

And yet where was this intuitive aptitude with Adam eh? He trusted Adam over Hiro almost completely it seemed, surely his ability to figure things out/figure people out should have made it clear that Adam was the bad guy. Lots of flaws in this show surrounding Peter as a character, in particular in connection with powers he's supposed to have, and how his abilities actually work. (We still don't even know how Sylar gets people's abilities. Why every last thing has to be a big secret is beyond me.)

[losmallville]

really good...i was excited to see Hiro moving from one place to the other when facing Peter, too bad he was slow with the reaction...and...

you all feel to great dont you? you all want maya dead because you can't stand a spanish talking character? what is your problem? piss me off...

[Lexgirl33]

We all don't like Maya because she is useless. And judging people because we don't like a Spanish character is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The writing for her character was crap. We don't dislike the actor..we dislike the character because the writers could have done better.

[oldskooldcfan04]

Overall an awesome episode. Hiro couldn't have found a more entertaining thing to do to Adam. It also leaves an opening for him to return. I'm sad that Nathan died, but I think it was a good twist. Also, the end of Claire and West is really good. Maybe this means the writers will start to undo all the harm they've done to her character. The entire Sylar scene was awesome!! He was definitely at the top of his game there. I was a little concerned that it took him like 5 minutes to pick up the can at the end. Why would it take so long for him to remaster his powers if he is healed? Elle is like the wildcard that could cause anything to happen and I like that suspense. I'm glad they got rid of Nicky, now maybe Maya will die for good and all will be well although I doubt the permanence of Nicky's death. Peter and Hiro using their powers against each other was worth 10/10 all by itself.

On the Maya/race issue: Her Latin descent isn't why people don't like her. If anything, it's the only thing going for her. She's just useless and a burden to everyone else.

[Son of Kal-El20]

Just watch. Maya will end up being Hiro's girlfriend. Oh yeah, Hiro's got game.

[Devid]

I love to watch this Episode...i rated to this Episode 8.5/10.

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